NEW Kia Niro-EV 70 mph Motorway Range Test and DC Charging Session
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2023
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Today, I take the Kia Niro-EV 2 on the Southwest-70 range test. This one's going to be a belter as I include a charging session and of course the range test which encounters all the conditions I normally hope to avoid like heavy rain, wet roads and road closures. However, I do manage to maintain great test conditions and finish with some interesting numbers you won't want to miss.
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Car: Kia Niro-Ev 2
Route: Southwest-70
Cost for journey: £34.69 (Osprey public DC 75kW charger)
Range completed: 166+ miles at 79% SOC (potentially 205 miles for 100% SOC based on my calculations)
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Recently managed 4.7 miles per KWH over 250 miles (with 40 miles to spare) with my Niro EV 4 (with heat pump), granted I was going slow (56mph) for the fun of it, with all my auto this and that switch on, it's actually quite a relaxing drive :)
When I had my diesel, I use to do the same and get 60mpg, when it was normally 47mpg.
If you're not in a rush, take it easy and I reckon I'll get well over 300 miles in the summer.
Love your channel. just brought my first ev its a kia niro ev 2 model love it
That’s awesome Richard it’s a great car and thanks for the ❤️
KIA are very honest when it comes to the mileage that you can get out of it. Did a 155 mile round trip over Christmas and it took 157 miles off the display. I have the new Niro EV 4 with heat pump!
Thanks for tuning in and the comment. That’s very interesting, maybe the heat pump makes the difference in terms of accuracy on the GOM?
My experience with my eNiro reflects your results almost exactly. Over 6000 miles in the first year I’m averaging 4.1 miles per KWh, on a motorway run I’m getting pretty much what you achieved. The charging curve is not as good as more modern vehicles, but the real issue is the price now Tesla have dropped their prices. A model 3 is about the same price at a 4+ and model Y only slightly more and you get the Super Charger network. There’s some second hand bargains coming soon.
That’s great our numbers are on the same length from an owner. I agree, Tesla have made it incredibly competitive but in my opinion this is desperately needed. The market needs looking at in terms of pricing especially with MG4 starting at 26k. Kia EV6 starts at £42k on an 800v system and that really questions the Niro pricing for me.
Agreed. I was seriously considering a NIRO EV for my next purchase, but with Tesla's price drop, i don't think I can justify it. This was, of course, part of Tesla's plan.They are still quite profitable while undercutting the EV competition on price.
@@L3x4Pr0ne very much so, between 30-40% profit per car
@@L3x4Pr0ne Hi just wondering if you got a new car & what you went for, tks
I have one of these on order (level 3 spec) so your review was most interesting, thanks.
That’s fantastic I’m sure you’ll be over the moon with it. What’s your lead time for delivery?
@@stuart_thomas It was ordered late November last year but no delivery time yet given. I have indicated my preferred time would be between late March and the end of May this year but we shall see.
@@colin.d hopefully not too much longer and with a new year reg 😊
most notable is a key dimension - width - The Kia Niro has one of the narrower profiles compared to all other EVs making it more likely to fit in the standard UK tiny garage for those lucky enough to have one.
That is a very significant factor.
Of course garage length is another UK stumbling block!
@@simotronic Yes indeed - luckily the older Niro EV is also 45 mm (just under 2 in) shorter with a length of 4375 mm vs the newer one's 4420 mm. Luckily I have a garage 5308 mm interior length, a door aperture of 2088 mm and full width of 2880 mm... tight but usable.
Higher trims offer remote parking assistance to allow easier egress and could be useful for tight parking spots.
Thanks for this interesting review of the new Niro EV...the weather in the UK is much as a remember it and pretty much the same as it is today here in South West France. We’ve had our e-Niro since March 2019, one of the first batch to arrive here. Just had the 75,000 km service done this week in Niort. It’s been great, apart from the 12v battery which needed replacing after 3 years, it was never up to the job. The build quality is as good as anything German, Swedish or Japanese I’ve owned during 40 + years of driving and despite the rough and tumble it gets in our rural life the interior is holding up well. Our winter/summer efficiency average is 14.4 kWh/100 km, so 4.3 miles/kWh. Even on a winter trip to Germany last winter... 2,200 km of autoroute/autobahn driving we were seeing about 18.5 kWh/100 km, about the same as you were seeing at similar speeds. So is your daily drive the MG4 but you get to try different cars? Thanks for all your reviews, the MG4 looks a game changer coming in under £30K. It is also getting great reviews here in France.
Thanks for tuning in and your comments it’s greatly appreciated from an owner’s prospective. It’s very efficient indeed and although I think the numbers aren’t quite accurate on the drivers display it’s more efficient than most EVs out there and does have a great build quality. I know a few Niro EV drivers who are over the moon and it’s great to see how well received it is in France too.
My issue is the pricing. It’s too high. MG4 from 26k and EV6 from 42k on 800v architecture. I think the Niro should be topping out mid-late 30s and with a heat pump as standard.
Thanks again for your input I know you comment on most of my videos and really appreciate it 👍
@@stuart_thomas Thanks Stuart. This morning I did a run to Poitiers railway station and back. This is 128 km round trip of mostly dual carriageway driving with the last few km in urban Poitiers and the first 10 km from home on rural roads getting over to the N10. Temperature was 7c with very strong cross winds and lots of rain. On the N10 I drive mostly between 100 to 110 kph, though there are restricted sections at 90kph. Round trip efficiency was 17.8 kWh/100 km, so 3.48 miles/kWh. The heater was on all the way and set to 20c. The question of FWD/RWD efficiency is an interesting one for EVs as it seems a FWD car can capture more kinetic energy on braking. Did I send you a link to my review of 2022 with the car? Can’t remember, it’s an age thing..😆 th-cam.com/video/k5bLACR89hs/w-d-xo.html
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 That's some impressive efficiencies considering the conditions you describe, I wish my MG4 would do that lols.
I agree about the genetic energy capture for FWD. RWD has more traction from weight distribution etc. Thanks for the link to your channel, I've subbed. Looks like your a charging master and have done very well micro cycling and using your solar to its advantages and you make a great point about incomplete charge cycles but I think it's fair to say, today's EVs, the batterie's will by far outlive the rest of the car.
I'm considering solar next. We have two EVs so every little helps ; )
@@stuart_thomas There is a high correlation between EV ownership and solar ownership. With an EV you get to think about kW hours I guess and while saving a fortune on not having to buy fossil fuels you notice your electricity bill go up.
I had 8 solar panels installed on our barn roof here two months after getting the car in 2019. Last year we added another 3 panels which was a bit of an experiment, hanging them on the wall of the barn with a 10 degree tilt. This is working out really well and catching the low summer sunshine. This year with the 11 panels I should get close to 3,000 kWh. I have done a couple of videos on the solar as I bought the panels and inverters myself and got a friend to install them. He’s a builder who is also a qualified electrician and used to working on roofs. He learned how to install solar to offset the costs of running his swimming pool at home. Here is the link to my original TH-cam channel with thanks to computer incompetence I could no longer add to. This goes back to when I first got the car in March 2019 and our initial trips with it www.youtube.com/@kiae-nirodiaries1279/videos. Thanks for subscribing
I'd confirm these numbers also - 45kw is a normal charge on DC - helps if you pre-condition which causes it to charge higher (50-60kw) for the first 20-50% of the battery. Rarely see anything above 50kw higher into the battery. At 80% it drops right down.
Biggest problem with Tesla is that the entry level vehicle is RWD. That won’t work in places it snows and is not worth the risk at all. The step up to performance is 15k more.
Just put winter tyres on it. Much more use than four wheel drive.
I can confirm your results are almost the same with my experience . I know price is not so good but I don't like ev6 or tesla and this car is perfect for my family of 4 people. Plus the dealer is perfect very pleasant experience with kia. I have 4 level with heat pump
Thanks for tuning in and comparing your experience. It’s great to hear you’re loving you Niro EV. It’s a great car so no need to explain, it’s one of the best family cars out there 💪
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Hi. Great review. Many thanks, I’m getting a Nero EV in Aug 2023 with a heat pump. Does the heat pump make much difference to range in cold weather?
P.S. I recognised loads of the streets as I live not far from you in Gloucester.
Very interesting as an MG4 owner (you and I), How do you think your SE SR would have done on the same day with the slow downs etc. 3.2 m/kwh?
I think 3.2-3.5 (tops) once the battery is at efficient temps especially later on when the outdoor temp warmed up and downpours stopped. But in my experience the MG figures on the drivers display are more accurate. I know range figures will always differ based on previous driving styles and variables on the day but 30-40 miles discrepancies will catch someone out.
Hi Stuart, great video, it's a pity the cabin noise is a bit loud, as you said the MG4 is better
I was very surprise Joe, thought it would be quieter. Maybe that’s the pitfall of shared flat form. Apart from that it’s a good car but it’s such a competitive segment there’s just better choices now and more importantly charge quicker and cheaper to buy/lease
We tested a 4 this week and I thought it was quieter than this so it may be 🎤 location and type?
@@pauldarlington9157 that’s great Paul. It’s a good car. Did you drive at motorway speeds? Under 60 it wasn’t too bad
@@stuart_thomas we did a dual carriage way at 70 for a short distance and thought it ok. But then our other car is an MX5! Seems no worse than our ID3 though
Judging by the weather this looks like the same day we went from Bristol to Lyme Regis in our Ioniq 38. The car was fully loaded about 450 KG. We set off through keynsham towards shepton mallet then down towards Lyme Regis. I know it's not the same as motorway but it was very hilly and torrential rain with 8-10°c. It was 63 miles each way with 21 miles left on the GOM and we averaged 4.1m/kWh but then again the Ioniq 28/38 is one of the most efficient EV's out there !
Have you ever driven one ? Test out the Ioniq 38 you'll be surprised ! Especially as you can pick one up nearly new for under £24k
That's very impressive Oliver. It sure is efficient and shouldn't be overlooked. I haven't driven the full electric version but hope to test one in 2023.
Really good thanks this video was just what I needed as I'm looking for an EV that'll do a 150mile trip between Edinburgh and Inverness. My Leaf is a good car but needs charged twice on the way north and once on the way south. Used to be OK but recently the volume of Ev's trying to use the A9's limited number of rapid chargers is making the Leaf impractical for this journey. Looks like the Niro wil make it if charged to 100% with about 50 miles to spare. And of course a lot of the A9 is a 60 MPH limit so maybe even easier.
You’ll be just fine with this car. However if you did do longer distances I’d suggest a car which chargers faster to future proof yourself.
Great cars.I made already 55i miles in 6 mos.Only issue I have with this car is the charging time,even supercharger takes 2 hours and over to 100% battery charge.Good commuter if you drive daily within battery range
100% agree. Great car but charging isn’t great but it’s not the end of the world
Having watched many of these range tests and charging tests, I would recommend that you finish your charge at 80% if you can, and charge somewhere else when your state of charge gets below 50% - you'll find that the "total time to charge" is much less.
If you have a home-charger I'd recommend only charging to 100% overnight just before a long trip, all your other charging during your trip should be to 80%, the last 20% will always be a very long wait.
I see you were in ECO mode. did you have the usual climate control on? what would be miles/kwh in normal mode? I'm in Canada and get mine in April. I booked it last August and supposed to be here this month but delayed until April. I hope no longer delay. Pretty excited. is there an obsessiveness among ev owners to always trying to maximize miles /kwh?
There’s always a challenge to get the most efficiently lols.
I did have the climate control on and set to 22. In normal mode I’m it will use a couple of % more energy by it depends on so many variables. In my test I had so many things going on which effected the outcome in a negative way, but it is a great and efficient car I’m sure you’re be very content with it
Nice ev.
My daughter test drove one of these today. The first thing that hit me was the efficiency. Unfortunately, like this one, it was only the ‘2’. I think she prefers the Renault Megane E-Tech First Edition. Can you quantify what you mean by ‘front wheel drive has less friction’? 🤔
Renault Megane E-Tech looks a fantastic propersition. Can’t wait to drive it!
Rear wheel drive gives the car more traction which is great for EVs as there’s more control over the torque hence why all sports cars go for RWD or AWD. FWD doesn’t have as much traction and therefore less friction and you’re not bearing the weight and momentum of the vehicle during the acceleration stage etc
My experience of FWD EVs is they tend to be more efficient but have drawbacks with things like torque steer
How are noise levels inside the cabin? The sections of this video shot on the motorway seems to have a lot of tyre roar/wind noise but I'm guessing you didn't have a lapel mic/lavalier so maybe your camera ramped up the mic levels and it picked up more noise than was actually perceptible?
It’s quite noisy I’m afraid. I don’t use a lapel mic so what you hear is the general atmospheric sounds.
There seems to be a conspiracy to downplay the eSoul, in favor of the Niro. We leased a 1st Gen Soul EV, and were very bummed that the eSoul didn't come to the US. Since then, *no one* has talked about how the two compare: price performance, sales volumes, handling, yadda. I think it could *easily* have been a "Bolt Killer" (the one we're driving now). Just looking at the Niro, I'm pretty sure that visibility is inferior to the Soul (you're lower down, and the windows are smaller/angled. I also suspect that the Soul beats Niro in terms of the rear hatch; loading/unloading cargo. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for tuning in. Soul EV is a great car but I think because of its smaller boot it becomes a niche car. Niro suits families better and that will always win unfortunately
Interesting Stuart, as I almost bought a Kia Niro but in the end I went for a tesla model 3 SR+ LFP 55kWh car. I also made an efficiency journey in 10C rainy weather on 1st January and got 256 kw/mile down and 232 kw/mile back, giving and overall efficiency of 244 kw/mile or 4.09 miles/kwh. So my car would have used 40.5 kwh for 166 miles or 77% of its battery meaning it is almost 20% more efficient than the Niro!
With the latest price drop, I think that Tesla model 3 RWD is the car to beat right now as it comes with everything plus a heat pump and a great supercharger network for £42,990.
That’s great efficiencies Kelvin especially at 10c with the LFP battery. Quite right it’s going to be hard not to consider any other car other than a Tesla at this price point. Im hoping it will force other OEMs to consider their pricing now and make it easier for consumers to get into an EV.
However, Tesla have everyone by the danglies as they make so much more on every car and aren’t restricted in manufacturing.
We are thinking of swooping our ID3 for a 4. I like the look of the EV6 better but it’s probably too big for us and a new one has a lead time over a year when we could have a Nero EV in June/July. Now starting to consider a used EV6 if we can find the right spec.
Oh that’s a tough one Paul. They’re all great cars although the software and consumer interface in the cabin are the best on the Kia. If I had to be honest, I’d probably go for the EV6 because it’s a more advance me architecture. The one place the Niro EV falls short is the peak charging speed around 85kw where the EV6 can achieve 260kw, I’d certainly test drive both and see how you feel then.
@@stuart_thomasgood review. I'm thinking the same I've got the id4 and to be honest i don't like it you mentioned road noise on the motorway test so that would point me towards the ev6 one of dealers here in ireland told me if i placed an order now i would have one in july
@@gerryheery1388 hi Gerry, yes, it was fairly loud. But that was at motorway speed, if you don’t often do these you might have little issues with it. EV6 is a good bet, plus you have 800v architecture with the big DC charging speeds. Niro max’s out at 90kW (if you’re lucky to hit that) it’s not really future proof but it really depends on your use case.
Did you get the EV6 Gerry? @@gerryheery1388
Great video, with all the essential information, and a nice analysis overall.
The cost is a joke, I'd have to do 90+mph on a petrol to approximate that price. Charge point prices are a ripoff, making EVs more expensive than anything but gas guzzlers
I agree EV chargers are too expensive, I tend to use a Tesla charger for around 35p per KW, with home charging, I managed a 500 round trip for £47, when I did this in my diesel, it would cost me close to £70, so I'm finding 'generally' my EV is cheaper, if you stick to cheap home charging, it's MUCH cheaper than any ICE vehicle.
Interesting. Lots of people talk about the eNiro having brilliant efficiency but I would expect slightly better than that in my ID.3 in similar conditions, probably 3.3-3.4mi/kWh. And obv faster charging. Mind you I tend to set AC at 19.
Both are very good and it’s really down to personal choice. I enjoyed driving both. I think people might put Kia/Hyundai on a pedestal as they’re not ground up EVs. Which battery pack have you got in the ID.3? I range tested the ID.3 pro performance 58kWh in 1-6c
temp and no rain/22c cabin and squeezed 3.1mi/kWh at a constant 70mph and the GOM was very accurate. I’d imagine at 10-12c 3.3/4 would have been achievable which is good for a RWD vehicle and is slightly heavier than the Niro.
@@stuart_thomas yes. 58kwh - my experience is about what you suggest. I think the recent software helped slightly, might have been slightly worse last winter
Hi, I just asked BARD what the difference is between the EV2, 3 and 4, and it says adaptive cruise control and lane assist is on 4 only! So if you have the v2, then Bard is wrong!
Bard says:
EV2 Standard features 17-inch alloy wheels, LED headlights and taillights, 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, dual-zone climate control, keyless entry and start, heated steering wheel, heated front seats, rear parking sensors, lane departure warning, lane keeping assist, blind spot monitoring, rear cross traffic alert, automatic emergency braking
EV3 All of the standard features of the Niro EV 2, plus: 18-inch alloy wheels, panoramic sunroof, heated rear seats, cooled front seats, head-up display, dual 10.25-inch screens, Harman Kardon sound system, vegan leather upholstery
EV4 All of the standard features of the Niro EV 3, plus: additional safety features such as adaptive cruise control, lane following assist, and Highway Driving Assist II
I have a Niro self charging hybrid, and it looks like eletric cars cost more to run than hybrids.
I estimate your cost per mile was about £0.11 where as my hybrid cost per mile is about £0.10, any comments ?
It’s a good point if you compare it against public charging. However, where EVs excel is how/where you charge. At home I can charge the car for as little as 12p a kWh so that’s roughly £7 to charge the car. I do 95% of my charging at home.
There are also still lots of free or cheaper charging options like work-based charging and hotels etc.
If these options weren’t available then it would make it a more challenging option. I also think EVs are better to drive and long term, without carrying both a HV system and ICE system together maintaining the vehicle should be much more affordable
For me charging speeds and battery capacity are not all that, the fact that so many chargers always seem to be out of order. This means price drop or not, the Tesla SC network wins over everything if you regularly do motorway journeys. You could have a 100kwh battery with amazing efficiency, get to a charger station and find it's not working, or have with Tesla SC that always seems to be working, and you never see them out of action!
It’s a good point. Charging is getting better though and my nearest big city, Bristol has so many now and most are always up and running. I do believe a lot of the ‘broken’ issues is down to parts availability to fix them. Tesla do have chargers down it’s just never publicly complained about as there’s always at least 8 stalls and the pass-through rate is quicker than anywhere else as even with cold batteries they will still charge quickly.
It will get better as technology gets more reliable and operators get more responsible. The uptake in EVs will push this
@@stuart_thomas Just watched a video by EVM , Testing My Nearest 10 Electric Car Charge Sites - Uh Oh!. This is my point exactly, it's just not good enough. I remain convinced that the SC Tesla network has to be superior to what others offer and what they offer is the Achilles heel of owning an EV when having to cover motor miles, just not good enough, we can not make excuses for them.
@@martingrady7654 I did see it. It’s not a good look and unfortunately it’s going to portray that it’s nationwide issue. Maybe I’ll try the same here where I am
My 2021 ENiro overestimates speed significantly. 70mph indicated = 66mph GPS. Does the new model do the same?
Hi Russ, thanks for tuning in and the info. That’s really interesting and a big discrepancy. Most cars seem to be 1 or 2 out. This one depending on the app I use was 1 and 2. What wheel size do you have? I’m not 100% sure if the full range has the same wheel size etc
In terms of testing EVs if it’s less than 2 I won’t bother mentioning as its minimal impact. Even when I use cruise control it’s dipping below the set speed all the time.
It’s a tough one as the consumer always drives by the car indicated speed and that reflects in the efficiencies. But good to know!
@@stuart_thomas Hi Stuart, I’m driving a 2021 ENiro 4, 64kwh on the standard 215/55/r17. I’ve recently fitted 4 x Continental All Season XL and very happy with them - better than the OEM Michelin Primacy’s which started to generate such horrible road noise that I binned them at 4mm. Anyway, I do 20k per annum - mostly motorway - and the car has averaged 3.4 m/kWh, and I generally stick to 70mph GPS.
13:10 does it it say IPedal at max regen? Mine will it’s total OPD
13:44 is it noisier than the mG4 mate?
Mine has acoustic glass (the Kia)
14:04 That’s louder than an MG4 no?
17:12 Agreed but with your radio on should be ok lol
35:38 Doesn’t it speed limit you with such little battery left?
Great questions! Niro-EV acoustics aren’t as good as MG4 unfortunately. No issues with speed at low state of charge.
Out of interest, did you navigate to the charger, using the inbuilt sat nav ? This should have preheated the battery to give you a faster charge.
Hi Chris this 2 model doesn’t come with sat nav. However, I do believe at 20% SOC and under the car won’t precondition to conserve battery. Unfortunately, even if it was possible it wouldn’t have make any difference as I went straight to the charger following picking up the car and was short on time with it.
That rapid charging prediction (1hr20m to 80%) is a bit tame by 2022 standards...especially on a £40k car. Even as a happy Hyundai customer I don't think we'll be staying with them when MG offers a lot better value.
I agree it’s not good enough in 2023 but it does a great job for everything else. The boot is massive and this is why it’s a firm favourite. However, for £42k you can grab an EV6 on the 800v system with better performance. But it does have the same size frunk as the Niro lols
Do the fans still blow with the AC off ? Did you use the AC during the test ?
Hi, not sure tbh. The weather meant these guys were on all the time so I could see out the windows 😉
Great informative video. Excellent car but charge speed simply not good enough relative to the price in 2023,let alone 3-5 years time when you want to change, it will look horrendously out of date (charge speed wise). Tesla really putting downward pressure on pricing so Kia/Hyundai will have to quietly discount to remain competitive. New Kona just released but they have not revealed the charge speed so I suspect will be sub 100kW like the Niro. We don’t need 800v architecture but a speed of 120-150kW would be perfect. And would match most other competitors at this price point or less.
Thanks Mark. Completely agree, it’s not future proof. Even MG4, a 26k vehicle will charge faster.
Great car, but spending £44k on a ‘4’ (hp) is a lot and getting dangerously close to an entry-level EV6! ‘3’ probably makes most sense.
Only slight criticism imo is the slow top-up charging, but the Niro’s certainly efficient and pretty good on range compared to other EVs.
Great point john. I’d push for the EV6, the 800v system is worth it for future proofing charging etc
Loooking to go ev i do a 190 moteway trip and looking at the niro and the cupra i cant deside
Both very capable good cars. Cupra does gets the higher DC ultra fast charging which is helpful if you need to stop. I haven’t tested the cupra but will do soon. I’d imagine 200 mile ish based on the VW ID.3 which is the same car. The Niro will come with a 7-year warranty and although the 77kWh charge speed is unfortunate, everything else it does great
Judging by your range test, you'll need a very large battery to do 300 miles..
It's the battery tech & charging infrastructure, that actually holds back the advance of EV's ..
My leaf will do 93 miles around town on a summer day & at 13% the screen display disappeared!
Not great news about the screen at 13%. Is that a first gen leaf?
@@stuart_thomas
I believe it's first gen 30kwh, nice car but not enough battery to have all the creature comforts on, you don't get to use 30kwh!
@@billyray323 I thought as much. I agree, Great cars
Why didn’t you use preheating or Winter mode?
Preheating is only available above a certain SoC I think it’s 20%. I’d literally just collected the vehicle and worst case scenario is always best!
For me, nice car but 25% too expensive at the very least, esp with such low charging speeds.
Kia needs to drop its Niro prices to compete with Tesla. The Niro EV Wave (higher trim) is the closest comparison to Tesla's Model Y, but after the full $7500 tax credit (which the Model Y qualifies for) it's cheaper than the Kia. The Model Y gets 279 miles vs the Kia's 253. It has 20 cubic feet more cargo volume, and it's AWD standard (Kia is only FWD). It's still cheaper than the Niro (after tax credit) if you opt for the Model Y Long Range, which gets 330 miles.
The tax credit definitely is helpful. We could do with that kind of incentive here. No need for free charging, just help get people into EVs.
18.2/100km is a bit disappointing to me. Worse than my Kona. Which i am going to trade in for the niro
But £35 for 200 miles
That’s a lot of cash no?
I’d get 240 miles in a hybrid Kia for that cash?!
12:02 never got more than 2.2 on my MG4 . I am in the NW of England though 🤷♀️
I really like the car but the charging is the one thing that is making me look elsewhere.
I currently have a Kona 64kwh and I cannot replace it with another car that charges so slowly.
Nothing worse than charging and watching other cars coming and going while sat waiting.
Kia, and Hyundai have totally lost sales due to this.
I agree, for the price, it’s not acceptable for a ‘new’ model. Most new EVs now offer 125kW plus charging.
How can Kia make a current vehicle with such a poor charge speed?
I agree, shouldn’t be this speed on a car at this price point in 2023.
I have currently got an MG4 SE SR
I’ve had it less than 3 months.
I’ve swapped it for the Kia EV2 and can’t wait.
MG 👎
Not all good looking cars are good.
EV2? Is that the Niro EV-2?
It’s a great car. I wish you all the best with it
Expensive to run? 168 miles @ 3.4m/kwh = £39. Ouch. Diesel would be about £23.
If you public charge it becomes equally as expensive as petrol/diesel however, I charge at home for £6 for a full charge.
@@stuart_thomas Yes. Charging at home would be much cheaper. Its the public chargers that are more expensive. As long as you don't travel more than 45% charge from home EV is cheaper.
@@73henny indeed
Unfortunately fossil fuels are not the future!
I just don’t see the point of driving a few miles down the motorway and returning , go on a 4 or 500 mile drive in a day , and I would get it .
Opportunity there for you mr Howlett😂
@@devonbikefilms one of my favourite places is the Mull of Galloway, and that is a long way from everywhere, even Manchester !
Because people are more interested in what a full charge will look like. Don’t get me wrong a road trip is sweet and there’s a lot to learn from it but it’s just the reality
great city car, long distance, not so much.
That's why you need an ice car to make an EV work at all, so you might as well buy an ice car that can do everything well.
@@stevezodiac491 90% of people don't do long distance drives often at all. so electric car being the main and only car would be fine.
£35!!!
Luckily it’s not too often I use public charging 😊
I thought that.That is very expensive.Petrol or Diesel would be cheaper!!!!
@@1derekwinter1 you can't fill a petrol car at home, electric charging at home is cheaper than any ICE car.
£35 for what ?
It’s all in the video details
34gbp to charge a car is highway robbery...
Fortunately prices are coming back down
Mg4 ev does better than this one on motorway
You say the cabin is noisier than you hoped! Dead right, the longer the journey goes on the worse it gets. Awful
Pretty rubbish really, to get a full battery you need to charge for an hour and a half on a 50 kw ( common) rapid charger at least.
That gives a range of 205 miles.
My much larger 15 year old Mercedes E Class Diesel, gets well over 650 miles at 70 mph ( well over 3 times the range) and it takes 5 minutes to refill the tank afterwards. This is not progress, that is why electric vehicles will struggle badly to take the car market and why used EV prices are dropping like a stone. Also a large number of dealers have got a stocking ban on EV's because they are losing so much money on EV inventories. Don't go on about bladder range either, it takes 5 minutes to go to the lavatory and you can eat, drink and rest in the passenger seat, whilst your driving spouse shares the driving, whilst an EV takes hours cumulatively charging on long journeys leading to charge anxiety and much slower journey times. I have had an EV for 7 years and on long journeys I have learnt my lesson and don't do them in the EV, instead it is used within it's tethered home charger range, where it works.
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