MG4 SE SR vs TROPHY LR Summer Range Test | Comparing the data

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  • Hey and thanks for tuning in this week.
    In November 2022 I performed a 70mph range test with my MG4 SE Standard Range.
    Recently, I also range tested the MG4 Trophy Long Range in the warmer British summer climate and compare both the tests. I felt that it would only be fair to compare the two like for like with similar route and outdoor temperature. Although not scientific, it's a great insight into what these two cars are capable of with a fully depleted battery so we can understand the limitations and have some helpful milestone markers for journey planning.
    In this range test, I take my 'South west 70' route with my 2022 MG4 SE Standard Range to explore its potential range in the warmer climate. I safely maintain 70mph through where possible with the normal test procedures of using adaptive cruise, HVAC set to 22˙c and fan speed on +1.
    It's also worth noting, in this video, my MG4 SE Standard Range is 10 months old vs an MG4 Trophy Long Range which was brand new.
    I'd love to know what you thought of the test. Are you an MG4 owner? What's your experience on road trips? Do you have any tips to share?
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  • @niallbenn
    @niallbenn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Would love to see a winter version of this. I've noticed a big hit to my SR range in the cold. Would be interested to see how the LR impacted in comparison.

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be equally the same as a %. Lots of people on social media platforms are quoting as low as 150

  • @6r4metroman
    @6r4metroman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing, so detailed, I really like the MG, this pushes me towards the SE...

  • @ytdood
    @ytdood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks about on par with what I'm getting from my LR Trophy version. But I don't keep it at 22C, but 26C, I think there's a 4C delta from what it's actually putting out, the internal temperature as reported by the app and an internal temperature gauge match that, not the '26C' on the HVAC. 22C makes it blow cold air still, quite annoyed with this but once set to 26C, I've not touched it for over 4 months now. I do always chuckle when 'summer' tests like these show a bleak, misty sight and barely any sun :D I guess to the outside world, it might look off but there's something magical about the way everything looks in this weather.
    Good video as always!

  • @lepruk86
    @lepruk86 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for these vids.
    I've thought about it a lot and ordered the SE. Most of my driving is town driving - occasionally I'll drive a bit further but then I'd need to plan a stop in either vehicle or charge at the end point for return.
    So for me, in real world use the better efficiency of the smaller battery SE works for my lifestyle and use case. I would have liked the cameras, but not enough to be a deal breaker.
    Car's coming in about 4 weeks apparently; really can't wait!

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s fantastic news congrats!
      Range isn’t as bigger issue as it used to be. There’s more chargers and transparency than before.

  • @denisbartasevicius6522
    @denisbartasevicius6522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent analysis

  • @3dgar7eandro
    @3dgar7eandro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lad: At 21:21 It should've being 64KWh?!
    Thanks in advance, very interesting comparison, well done mate 😁👏👌

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting stuff. Thanks. A real-world difference of only about 25 miles range between the two at 10% charge, which is as low as I'd want to take them on a motorway.
    Just wish they would make a "SE SR +" with more features included as standard. I object to safety features like blind spot detection being left off standard trim levels.

  • @ndc5544p
    @ndc5544p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just last week I was on the motorway with my Zoe. Drove at 110kph which is about 1mph slower than 70mph and managed to drive 180km with 79% battery. I'm really taken aback just how bad my Zoe is compared to your SE SR even though we have similar battery size.
    Thankfully that piece of junk is going away in a couple of days. Sadly not to the junkyard but to the dealership which is going to sell it to someone else.

  • @Alex-yk1cn
    @Alex-yk1cn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’m in New Zealand and have had the Essence (similar to the Trophy) for a month now. So was interested to see what range you would get on the motorway. In NZ the Essence has 18” rims (and wider tyres) so I expect the range will be a bit less. So far I’ve only driven it around town / country roads … love it.

    • @Tsenngu
      @Tsenngu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So Essence, Trophy and my car is called Luxury. All different names around the world.

    • @Alex-yk1cn
      @Alex-yk1cn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tsenngu yes … I think only small differences?

  • @PJWey
    @PJWey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant thanks really useful, will be bringing another MG4 to the West Country later this year

  • @user-sn9ts6ie3v
    @user-sn9ts6ie3v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting post there, thank you for uploading! I test drove the MG4 yesterday and was very impressed.
    Your videos are certainly helping make a decision on what model to go for.

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much!

  • @MUFC1933
    @MUFC1933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for putting it MPH and not KMs as I’m in England 👍 ❤

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No problem 👍

  • @davidedessi5018
    @davidedessi5018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just got my MG4 thanks to your videos

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad they were of help and many congrats on your new MG4 👍

    • @davidedessi5018
      @davidedessi5018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stuart_thomas Thanks a lot Stuart!! 🙏

  • @roscopeco2000
    @roscopeco2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is where the sweet spot of the range is the SE LR, which is more efficient than the Trophy because as it doesn't have the extra spoiler which lowers the efficiency.

  • @Ian_Woods
    @Ian_Woods 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As usual your videos are very clear and to the point Stuart.
    You may remember I ordered a mg4 last 31-10-2023 in spain, well still no reply from MG to any email, dealer still said, doesn't know nothing, so we decided to go on holiday to turkey as we were not going to wait any longer, so guess what, we are there 3 weeks and get an email your car is at the docks we will have it here in 2 to 3 weeks in the dealership. So cut short our intended 10 week holiday and book a flight back in time to collect the car.
    Get back and get an email I have just seen your car it is the wrong colour inside. I will reorder the car for you. Yep, really, no apology, no, i will make sure its priority, in fact nothing. question him and he again doesn't know nothing. why have you got to make a new order , because your order they have sent it wrong, so i need to reorder. So when will it come "no idea".
    Cannot recommend buying any car from the spanish MG. if this is the treatment before you buy what happens after you buy.
    Any way they have done me a favour 🤣 as l have test drove some more cars and even the tesla model 3 (didn't before as it was some 10 or 12 000 euros more) and it is such a better car in every way, as since i ordered the MG4 it has come down in price and is now for us only 2000 euros more than our pre MG4 price rise. So we have cancelled the MG4 (at least they didn't argue about giving back our deposit) and have ordered the New refreshed highland model 3. which should be here october/november. Maybe just in time for our planned trip to the UK to visit family etc. So will we come to UK by diesel or electric. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably for the best based on your experience Ian. What a shambles. You will be happy with a M3, I’m excited to see the highland M3, please let me know how you get on 👍

    • @Ian_Woods
      @Ian_Woods 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stuart_thomas Yep we feel we have dodged a bullet, 🤣 And even though we thought the M3 that we test drove was so much better than the MG, worth the 2175 euros more than our pre MG price rise order (mind new Mg orders will be so much closer in price, don't understand how anybody would order the MG trophy with the colour options, unless of course you just hate Tesla for some reason.) But it is clear the new Highland refresh is so much better still, with maybe the exception of the indicators. 🤔
      BUT
      Even though I said it is just 2175 euros more (that for the base pearl white with black interior, which I like and Ana didn't think it looked like a Tomb) but I made the stupid mistake of showing Ana the "Out of Spec" youtube channel look around of the highland M3 at iaat. which was in the new colour Ultra Red with white seats. And she said WOW it looks so much better in that colour with the white seats. There went my just 2 grands more 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Ok, will let you know when we get it.

  • @MUFC1933
    @MUFC1933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love me a trip to GUS❤
    Thanks mate good info ❤

  • @DavidJJJ
    @DavidJJJ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video, I'm getting the standard range in 3 days, so good to know real world. Also, nearly every country in the world uses kilometers, please include next time!

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you enjoy it!

  • @tangomoocow
    @tangomoocow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, thanks. Is that screen standard, I'm pretty sure I've never seen it on my trophy? cheers.

  • @jamesguy7396
    @jamesguy7396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive had my SR model for a year also. I don't drive as fast - usually 60-62 mph on dual carriageways for approx 50% of journeys and 50% rural and town driving on eco mode ,the GOM predicts 230-240 miles in summer. Really surprised that the trophy has so little range advantage, the SE SR easily exceeds my bladder range. Its a pity MG UK do not offer the LFP battery on the Trophy like in other markets, I'd buy one.

    • @Airbag888
      @Airbag888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think they offer LFP on trophy in any markets

  • @sargfowler9603
    @sargfowler9603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting to see that the LR has 22% bigger battery, yet only does 17% more range. Looks like the SR is a bit of a bargain really.

    • @billienomates7100
      @billienomates7100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      22% bigger battery but also weighs more as well, plus the spoiler creates more drag.
      What would be a fairer test would be the SE LR vs the SE SR.

  • @PJWey
    @PJWey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Has yours had any software updates recently? I have read that there might be some changes with latest software. Just curious and awaiting my MG4. 😊

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      SE standard, no. But there has been more activity for the Trophy/luxury spec.

  • @zorgonfire
    @zorgonfire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I get about 15kWh/100km when I have tail wind to up to 28kWh/100km with strong head wind on a trophy (luxury with heatpump) at 80 milles an hour. The drag is proprtional to the square of the AIR speed. You would have to drive both of them at the same time same route to get accurate results. Anyway Trophy is not about the range compared to the standard. It is about the 42kWh that you get at fast chargers in 25 minutes vs. 35 kWh in 40 minutes with the standard. For 1000km jurneys that is very important and adds up quickly.

  • @torpemonguz
    @torpemonguz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice job!
    Just i need to change to km.. but anyway it's easy..
    Daily base, to my job the standard is enough..
    The good question, how figure in wintertime, heat pump is good or not...here in Hungary sometimes -5..-15 happen... but anyway I will see.. :-)

  • @bazworld
    @bazworld 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice video How do you know out side temp as mine has disappeared on the SE after my last software update .one step forward 2 steps back as always with MG 🤔

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re spot on it isn’t on the vehicle, I used a 3rd party weather app 👍

  • @georgioschristopoulos3303
    @georgioschristopoulos3303 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you please test the 51 excite version with full trunk? Just to have an idea how good is it for a family car on vacations.

    • @akacicaa
      @akacicaa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The weight is not very important, especially if you drive at a constant speed. Maybe 5% less range FULLY loaded.

    • @akacicaa
      @akacicaa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In summer, this car is good enough for even longer journeys. In winter, the range is noticably less due to no heatpump.

  • @MrBigshalash
    @MrBigshalash 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where can I find the 12 month review you talked about?

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That will be coming next month 👍

  • @wintersun398
    @wintersun398 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you estimate the total available range from the 77kWh version?

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s hard to calculate range. It depends on so many factors. I like to consider worst case scenario which I think in summer is 270 miles and winter 200 based on 70mph motorway and using appropriate HVAC for each season

  • @jamesguy7396
    @jamesguy7396 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They do in Thailand. See Bjorn Nyland review while in Thailand.

  • @broderwow
    @broderwow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting, in Poland Long Range has 77kWh battery :)

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have that one too but it’s called the ‘Extended Range’

  • @SNORKYMEDIA
    @SNORKYMEDIA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive heard mixed messages about how prudent it is to charge an lrp battery to 100% all the time. If you should really charge to 80% like other chemistries it removes a lot of the advantages of the SE for me

  • @MikeJarvisExperienceTheWild
    @MikeJarvisExperienceTheWild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting! I just had another look at your 60mph test... approx 170 miles at 7 degrees compared with 70mph, 180 miles at 21 degrees. I'm looking forward to trying my Australian equivalent of your car, Excite 51, our temperature range in tropical Cairns is between 20 and 30+ degrees but our speed limit is 100 kph (60 mph). I'm guessing I'll 320 kms or more. Does anyone in Britain have a tow bar on their MG4? I'd like to try a small camping trailer (motorcycle style).
    Thanks for your info 😊

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let me know how you get on 😉

    • @southeastmedia936
      @southeastmedia936 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Mike, I'm based in Brisbane and looking at the Excite 51, do let me know how you go when you manage to test the range! I saw a video recently where someone down south did a 180km test and based on their consumption estimated about 300km of highway range at just over 100kph.

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22 degree Summers... meanwhile here it's scorched earth at 35C

  • @andrewcrosbie2363
    @andrewcrosbie2363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m not sure if you are aware but you are commiting a driving offence which is middle lane hogging, I wanted to let you know incase you get pulled over as I saw plenty of times when you was in the middle lane when you should of been in the far left lane, I understand it’s foggy but the left lane is there as the main lane, all other lanes are overtaking only plus it causes more congestion as people have to go around you.
    Other than that, lovely video

    • @stuart_thomas
      @stuart_thomas  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video.
      I’m the first person to ridicule middle lane hoggers. Don’t worry most of the trip is in lane 1. My camera has a fish eye lens so everything feels much further away than it really is so in most cases I’m overtaking etc 👍

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yikes, that is less than 1/2 what my 4-cylinder car can do.

  • @Neil2022
    @Neil2022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds noisey

  • @richardhowlett9424
    @richardhowlett9424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a palaver before you set off , diabolically dreadful car , you don’t mention the extremely dodgy ethics of Chinese cars , whatever the badge might say . At least it didn’t decide to drive itself , see Geoff Buys Cars .

    • @PJWey
      @PJWey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The setup was to match previous runs for a fair comparison.