I've ordered 2 guns a NVE and a R500 I've watch many of the reviews which agree with your review, I got the NVE for a clear and candy only gun and the R500 for base coat, I have 4 gti pros I use for primer a 1.8 for 2k high fill and 3x 1.3 for acrylic's but I've never was happy with them, I run a 17cfm compressor I've got some Iwatas that need a lot of air, I'm repainting my car but I make guitars these days and do 50 to 60 a year I use a lot of pearls and candies, I'm looking forward to try the NVE
Hi Pete. Interested to see what you think of the astro. Garage noise has a few vids on them. I never popped on one. I have a few budget friendly guns and they all seem to spray the same. My favorites as of now are my aeropro r500 and my flg5. I spent a little on the flg5 but to be honest it sprays about the same. I wouldn't hesitate buying another r500. Very good for the money. Always wanted to try the kiwami4 but ive never popped on one because Im afraid I'd be disapointed in performance vs cost. I just bought a used lph400 lv4 1.3 off ebay. We'll see if i like it. Always wanted to try the tulip tip and see how it sprays. I hope it patterns nice and keeps overspray down. Cheers
Hi buddy, I have two Astro guns, and I must admit they are pretty good, including the build quality. The FLG5 is a good workhorse, which I still have. The performance is ok and ideal for most forms of painting. Imo the Kiwami4 is a step up from the FLG5 and the R500, although we are talking small increases, not huge as none of these are bad guns 👍
Pete, an experienced painter starts off with a recommended pressure setting and makes final adjustments before and during painting, fact is I setup and then make adjustments as needed. This is true with any gun as thinners and temperatures do effect the spraying. I find the copies do a really good job once set correctly.
Hi buddy, yes, I would agree. These do paint quite well, although they aren't as good as the original. They are considerably better than the Gti Pro Lite copies imo. I run this NVE when I use it at 2 bar most of the time with clear coats and a little less with solvent basecoat. It obviously depends on a lot of things as to how this works for people, but it's certainly where I would advise someone to start, cheers mate, appreciate it 👍
I've had good results with GTI copy as well, not as good as the originals but lets face it for the $$ they are good. I have 3 Devilbiss and 2 copies. I love the SRI Pro, both OE and copy. :) @@peteshobbies5383
Yea but there is a major difference when you spray 8psi to 12psi with the real DV1 compared to 30psi to 35psi with a copy. Any professional painter including me does not settle when it comes to equipment for doing professional grade work for people. Besides, NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVING CHINA MONEY. So, the real thing is 3 times more money, well its 3 times better and will last much longer and you will not be funding a country trying to destroy your country's economy 🤷♂️
Why the objective reply? I'm not advocating one over the other, fact is I hardly ever look at the spray gun's line pressure during spraying and I used guns before the gauges started being used on guns. I always adjust by spray pattern and the amount of spray. I even sprayed hanging upside down on aircraft and have 50' hose fed spray heads, your reply pissed me off and I doubt your experience exceeds mine.@@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote
Hi James, for the price, they are ok, although longevity would always be questionable if they are used a lot, like the R500, sprays ok but every time I clean it the trigger sticks so it needs lubricate, not well sealed I guess, cheers buddy 👍
Wow! I'm impressed! The fan pattern on that is pretty wide and soft while still putting out a decent amount considering you're using a HS clear. Imagine how it would perform with a MS clear. It laid down the base and clear with good atomization also. What do you think the of the air and fluid consumption? Is it pretty efficient or a hog? Another great review, and I look forward to the Astro EuroHE. I have one, albeit I have better. Keep up the great videos, Pete! ❤
Hi Boss, Yes, I was surprised how good it was. It is obviously not as good as the original, but it's 1/6 of the cost. Pattern was good, even and as wet as someone could want, I estimate it uses around 10cfm so not really an air hog in this day and age where everything that comes out seems to use more air than the one it replaced. I didn't want it to be as good as it was, but I can only say as I find, appreciate the comments as always buddy, thank you 👍
Hi buddy, The Gti copy certainly puts out too much fluid for its cap to handle, so backing off the fluid certainly helps it. The prices these sell at now have come down, so they can be had for around 45 USD which represents reasonable value for money, the NVE is more expensive but imo it's definitely worth it, it just feels so much more refined, cheers mate, appreciate the comments 👍
i bought this same spray gun to try.... It sprays basecoat super nice, for a chinese copy gun... Laid down some metallic vauxhall Metro blue amazingly.... I used same settings as you recommended, for a base line... Clear coat on other hand though..... Orange peel'd as f**k 🤣
@@peteshobbies5383 Definately not the worst orange peel ive seen.. When held in sunlight, you can see the metallics all lovely etc.. But at angles, You can defo see the orange peel.... Although, this may be personal error... This is why i commented, to get advice :) When laying down the metallic basecoat, i backed up 8-9 inches from panel, and the metallics layed lovely... But on clear coat, i think i may have automatically just stayed at that same distance too... Could that be the cause of the orange peel? I think it was just something that was embedded into my mind tbh.. I knew i had to back up from the panel a little for the metallics... So my brain automatically made me keep a distance on the clear coat too.... Im using OSCCAR HS 912 clear, with slow activator and slow thinnners...
@Ay_Ess Yes, almost certainly, you are right to back off on metallics, I spray the drop coat or final coat around 10 inches. Some also drop the pressure slightly, but distance has a similar effect. With clear you want to be around 6" from the panel, maybe 7" but not more, you will find it goes on much wetter, which will help it flow out more, also slowing down a little will help although if you are closer to the panel you probably won't need to, it a matter of reacting to what your seeing
@@peteshobbies5383 Nice one :) I will scuff with p800 and try clear coat again :) Its amazing, I got the metallics to lay absolutely perfectly... But mess up on the clear coat :D This litte chinese spray gun isnt bad.. i will defo upgrade to something genuine, once my painting skills improve... thanks for your help
Hi Dean, Thanks, mate 👍 , I just got supposedly a mint Devilbiss gravity Advanced HD, should be here end of the week so excited to get to know these, I know you and others rave about them so, as I say, exciting 😀, I'm like a kid is a sweet shop 🤣, cheers mate 👍
Believe me I have no issues with Pete hobbies he is a true professional he was the guy who pull the cover off iwata on the 1st super nova that was released concerning the split tip was not lining up correctly - thanks to Pete hobbies for decovering the devect
Thanks, mate. I know I mainly do smaller stuff. It's all I have the facilities for, to be honest, and motorcycles have always been my thing. I'm really interested in the spray guns themselves and the differences between them, particularly when some manufacturers say there are differences between certain guns when there isn't. I remember years ago, my background is in power tools and machinery, a large German manufacturer had 2 power tools they were selling, one was industrial and 3 times the price of the other that was classed as domestic, appart from colour, they were exactly the same, so, I've always been sceptical over a manufacturers claims. Cheers buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 all your vedio is very good 👍 your channel convinced me to purchase a sagola xtream dvr 4600 1.2xl titanium your demonstration was what sold me on the sagola thanks keep up the good work 👏 my location is here in the USA south Carolina
@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I have a question for you could you please explain to me what is so important about the sagola R1 regulator gauge that snap on the end of the sagola xtream 4600 and the different between the R2 sagola regulator gauge thanks or which one would you prefer
Hi Pete, when I first saw this was up mate I thought this isn't a new video as I have that very gun on my gun rack😎😂 but I do agree that this gun is more user friendly than the GTI copy as that is a bit of a beast in fact I was using that (Your) gun this morning for clear and put the Kapci 6050 though it at full fan and full fluid and man does it chuck it out but I still managed to get a dry spot on the panel🤠 I'll be using your NVE tomorrow with the same clear but I will try your settings this time, I think I said when I posted it up that this gun is quite good for it's price🤔 Anyway you did a fantastic job on this one mate it looks superb it laid the base and clear flawlessly so much that I don't think you would get a better finish from the real DV1👌I loved the colour as well mate it really looks nice on the tank👏👍 Thanks Pete👍 Oh my new clearcoat arrived this morning so I'll be using that soon🤐🤫🤓
Hi John, I thought you might agree. The NVE is worth the extra money. It seems a bit better made than the Gti Pro Lite Chinese copies and gives more control with a better universal use pattern if that makes sense 😀. I'm glad you tried it flat out as it's a bit of a handful, not particularly user-friendly, especially when you consider it's probably likely it will be bought by a beginner. Cheers, mate. I'll look forward to seeing your videos later for anyone reading this John's work can be found here, instagram.com/johntc02?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Hi buddy, I would go for the cheapest where you are, I have had a few people telling me they have had problems with the seals on there NVE, I haven't but some have
@milanvrkljan3933 On the NVE, I use 1.8 bar for base coats and 2.0 bar for clear coats. As far as materials go, I use full fluid for clear coats, for base it varies widely depending on colour and substrate, but if you are unsure, try 1 1/2 turns out from fully closed and then open it more if needed, it depends on what you are seeing, hope that helps 👍
you helped a lot, and how much do you think it is for the base and clear coat for 4000b I use 1.8 bar base, 2.2-2.3 clear coat, for both open from closed 3 circles. Is that good or?
Hi Rey, Yes, there's no reason why not, but if you have relatively simple car panels to do, then I would probably go one out on both fluids as moving faster isn't a problem. These really can throw it out, and the bit where I say it can overwhelm the cap holds true no matter what you are spraying. It's certainly imo better than the Gti Pro Lite copies as you have more control , cheers, mate 👍
I want to get this with a fast clear as I will be spraying in my carport. You mentioned dye back, could I just polish/buff afterwards and it should be fine ? And do you recommend fast clear for bonnet and front bumpers or is it too weak?
Hi Mate, Normally, the faster the hardener, the more dieback you will get. It's not set in stone, but it is quite a reasonable assumption. The answer is yes, you can normally get it back. It's just more work. I'm not sure what you mean by too weak 🤔
Normal, the quality of the clear coat has the biggest effect of longevity, as well as preparation of course, remember, clear coat needs to be applied within an hour or so of the base coat to get good adhesion
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you master! so you're saying the quality in terms of the formulation/brand is more important rather than if it's a fast or slow one.
Hi buddy, I think I would rather have this over the 500. Although it's more money, I think this gives a little more control and slightly better atomisation
Maybe i got a lemon, but the clone i got only lasted me 1 month. The internals got stuck and lubing it didnt help. Performance wise for that 1 month was fantastic. I have many prolite clones that have lasted for years with no issues so im pretty disappointed in this gun.
Hi Jimmy, longevity is always a big question with Chinese guns, I've found most of them to be fairly unreliable, including the Gti Pro Lite ones, certainly if your using these a lot I don't think they will last well which I think I said in the video, for the occasional painter it would fit the bill
@@peteshobbies5383 the chinese prolites, ive been lucky. I use everyday for the past 4-5 years and they still are holding up very very well. This is the first chinese made gun not useable anymore
I confirm Ight now I'm learning with everage cheap tools (not the cheapest) to get more experience... and later I'll invest in more pro tool, with a better experience. Thanks for charing yours 👍
Pete. Thank you for your reply. What can you suggest for a low cfm spray gun? I'm asking because It's only my hobby, and i like to learn and do myself. My compressor is 11cfm and I don't want to break the bank. Thank you.
Something like the R500 would be ok. It's cheap, and it sprays quite well . Although it uses twice the amount of air they claim, it's still around 8 cfm, so it should be within your compressor
Hi buddy, yes, I did 😊, certainly not recommended as I sure it's not something you should do, but I do. I used to just do it for a clear coat, but these days, I do it for everything in the cooler weather. It's also handy for warming up me tea 🍵, cheers, mate 👍
Hi buddy, yes, I did microwave the paint, I do it with clear coat and primer as well. I do normally add, and I believe in this video I did, that it's not recommended, but it's what I do and works very well, particularly if it's cold. I do, and will continue to do, what works for me, just like you will do, and continue to do what works for you. I'm not sure what it has to do with trust though?
@@peteshobbies5383 took me awhile to formulate a response to this: I meal prep my food for the whole week using quart size plastic Ziplock bags. if I heat it too much the plastic bag melts in very specific spots, the heat is not even. urethane paint is like a plastic film. you are basically damaging the paint unevenly. I cannot imagine any paint manufacturer recommending you microwave paint. use hot water and put your paint can in it. you are not a master chemist, just use it how you're supposed to man. I experiment too but cmon, this is so utterly void of any common sense it's crazy as hell
I think you hit the nail on the head, "if you heat it too much," you said, there my friend is your answer, simply dont heat it too much and you'll be fine, you won't believe me so we will have to agree to differ. BTW, I accidentally put 200ml of clear coat on for 1 minute instead of 10 seconds. It started to go to jelly, so too much is definitely not recommended . Cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 you're missing the point that how the microwave works is it heats it in a very specific spot. in order for you to get the whole paint you're using to the temperature you want it's damaging certain parts of the paint. I would totally disagree with this. heating the paint is a very good idea, but not like this, hot water would be better
Yea i spray clear with my Devilbiss DV1-C with original C-1 air cap and 1.2mm nozzle at 10psi for high solids clear. If using medium solids production or universal clear i use the 1.3mm nozzle and spray at 8psi. Thats a major difference
@mxshredder925 Hi Mate, Yes, it's the same thread as the Devilbiss Tekna Gti Pro Lite and DV1, so it's a Number 3, PPS1 = 16033 and PPS2 = 26033, cheers 👍
I've ordered 2 guns a NVE and a R500 I've watch many of the reviews which agree with your review, I got the NVE for a clear and candy only gun and the R500 for base coat, I have 4 gti pros I use for primer a 1.8 for 2k high fill and 3x 1.3 for acrylic's but I've never was happy with them, I run a 17cfm compressor I've got some Iwatas that need a lot of air, I'm repainting my car but I make guitars these days and do 50 to 60 a year I use a lot of pearls and candies, I'm looking forward to try the NVE
Hi mate, when you're used the NVE, let us know what you think 🤔
Hi Pete. Interested to see what you think of the astro. Garage noise has a few vids on them. I never popped on one. I have a few budget friendly guns and they all seem to spray the same. My favorites as of now are my aeropro r500 and my flg5. I spent a little on the flg5 but to be honest it sprays about the same. I wouldn't hesitate buying another r500. Very good for the money. Always wanted to try the kiwami4 but ive never popped on one because Im afraid I'd be disapointed in performance vs cost. I just bought a used lph400 lv4 1.3 off ebay. We'll see if i like it. Always wanted to try the tulip tip and see how it sprays. I hope it patterns nice and keeps overspray down. Cheers
Hi buddy, I have two Astro guns, and I must admit they are pretty good, including the build quality.
The FLG5 is a good workhorse, which I still have. The performance is ok and ideal for most forms of painting.
Imo the Kiwami4 is a step up from the FLG5 and the R500, although we are talking small increases, not huge as none of these are bad guns 👍
Pete, an experienced painter starts off with a recommended pressure setting and makes final adjustments before and during painting, fact is I setup and then make adjustments as needed. This is true with any gun as thinners and temperatures do effect the spraying. I find the copies do a really good job once set correctly.
Hi buddy, yes, I would agree. These do paint quite well, although they aren't as good as the original. They are considerably better than the Gti Pro Lite copies imo.
I run this NVE when I use it at 2 bar most of the time with clear coats and a little less with solvent basecoat. It obviously depends on a lot of things as to how this works for people, but it's certainly where I would advise someone to start, cheers mate, appreciate it 👍
I've had good results with GTI copy as well, not as good as the originals but lets face it for the $$ they are good. I have 3 Devilbiss and 2 copies. I love the SRI Pro, both OE and copy. :) @@peteshobbies5383
Yea but there is a major difference when you spray 8psi to 12psi with the real DV1 compared to 30psi to 35psi with a copy. Any professional painter including me does not settle when it comes to equipment for doing professional grade work for people. Besides, NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVING CHINA MONEY. So, the real thing is 3 times more money, well its 3 times better and will last much longer and you will not be funding a country trying to destroy your country's economy 🤷♂️
Why the objective reply? I'm not advocating one over the other, fact is I hardly ever look at the spray gun's line pressure during spraying and I used guns before the gauges started being used on guns. I always adjust by spray pattern and the amount of spray. I even sprayed hanging upside down on aircraft and have 50' hose fed spray heads, your reply pissed me off and I doubt your experience exceeds mine.@@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote
Gun sprays well, for an inexpensive gun. I like it, I don't do a whole lot of painting. I like to do collision work, body work.
Hi James, for the price, they are ok, although longevity would always be questionable if they are used a lot, like the R500, sprays ok but every time I clean it the trigger sticks so it needs lubricate, not well sealed I guess, cheers buddy 👍
Great video! Looking forward to your video on the Astro Blue gun! Can't wait to hear your thoughts as this is my favorite paint gun!
Hi Buddy, I've only just received it, I must say, It seems well made especially considering the price it is, cheers mate 👍
Paint society got a vid
Wow! I'm impressed! The fan pattern on that is pretty wide and soft while still putting out a decent amount considering you're using a HS clear. Imagine how it would perform with a MS clear. It laid down the base and clear with good atomization also. What do you think the of the air and fluid consumption? Is it pretty efficient or a hog?
Another great review, and I look forward to the Astro EuroHE. I have one, albeit I have better.
Keep up the great videos, Pete! ❤
Hi Boss, Yes, I was surprised how good it was. It is obviously not as good as the original, but it's 1/6 of the cost.
Pattern was good, even and as wet as someone could want, I estimate it uses around 10cfm so not really an air hog in this day and age where everything that comes out seems to use more air than the one it replaced.
I didn't want it to be as good as it was, but I can only say as I find, appreciate the comments as always buddy, thank you 👍
GTI copy is ok at 25-30 psi and 2 1/2 - 3 turns out dose good for the price ? You can get great results if you can ajust to what the gun needs.
Hi buddy, The Gti copy certainly puts out too much fluid for its cap to handle, so backing off the fluid certainly helps it.
The prices these sell at now have come down, so they can be had for around 45 USD which represents reasonable value for money, the NVE is more expensive but imo it's definitely worth it, it just feels so much more refined, cheers mate, appreciate the comments 👍
@@peteshobbies5383
I fill the GTI copy is a bit heavy also !
i bought this same spray gun to try.... It sprays basecoat super nice, for a chinese copy gun...
Laid down some metallic vauxhall Metro blue amazingly....
I used same settings as you recommended, for a base line...
Clear coat on other hand though..... Orange peel'd as f**k 🤣
Hi buddy, I found it sprayed clear quite well considering the price, was it that bad?
@@peteshobbies5383 Definately not the worst orange peel ive seen.. When held in sunlight, you can see the metallics all lovely etc.. But at angles, You can defo see the orange peel....
Although, this may be personal error... This is why i commented, to get advice :)
When laying down the metallic basecoat, i backed up 8-9 inches from panel, and the metallics layed lovely... But on clear coat, i think i may have automatically just stayed at that same distance too...
Could that be the cause of the orange peel?
I think it was just something that was embedded into my mind tbh.. I knew i had to back up from the panel a little for the metallics... So my brain automatically made me keep a distance on the clear coat too....
Im using OSCCAR HS 912 clear, with slow activator and slow thinnners...
@Ay_Ess Yes, almost certainly, you are right to back off on metallics, I spray the drop coat or final coat around 10 inches. Some also drop the pressure slightly, but distance has a similar effect.
With clear you want to be around 6" from the panel, maybe 7" but not more, you will find it goes on much wetter, which will help it flow out more, also slowing down a little will help although if you are closer to the panel you probably won't need to, it a matter of reacting to what your seeing
@@peteshobbies5383 Nice one :)
I will scuff with p800 and try clear coat again :)
Its amazing, I got the metallics to lay absolutely perfectly... But mess up on the clear coat :D
This litte chinese spray gun isnt bad.. i will defo upgrade to something genuine, once my painting skills improve...
thanks for your help
@Ay_Ess You're welcome buddy, let us know how you get on 👍
As you know Pete not a lover of clones but they do have s market thanks for the upload bro 😊😊😊😊
Hi Dean, Thanks, mate 👍 , I just got supposedly a mint Devilbiss gravity Advanced HD, should be here end of the week so excited to get to know these, I know you and others rave about them so, as I say, exciting 😀, I'm like a kid is a sweet shop 🤣, cheers mate 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 pete your going to love it I steered dred fx onto one and it's now his dedicated primer gun you'll love it
Hey Petes. I`m just about to buy 3 sprayguns from Ntools, which features would you recommend, 1 for primer, 1 for base and 1 for clear. cheers
What ones are you thinking of getting?
Believe me I have no issues with Pete hobbies he is a true professional he was the guy who pull the cover off iwata on the 1st super nova that was released concerning the split tip was not lining up correctly - thanks to Pete hobbies for decovering the devect
Thanks, mate. I know I mainly do smaller stuff. It's all I have the facilities for, to be honest, and motorcycles have always been my thing.
I'm really interested in the spray guns themselves and the differences between them, particularly when some manufacturers say there are differences between certain guns when there isn't.
I remember years ago, my background is in power tools and machinery, a large German manufacturer had 2 power tools they were selling, one was industrial and 3 times the price of the other that was classed as domestic, appart from colour, they were exactly the same, so, I've always been sceptical over a manufacturers claims.
Cheers buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 all your vedio is very good 👍 your channel convinced me to purchase a sagola xtream dvr 4600 1.2xl titanium your demonstration was what sold me on the sagola thanks keep up the good work 👏 my location is here in the USA south Carolina
@refinishtechnology2529 Thanks, mate 👍
@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I have a question for you could you please explain to me what is so important about the sagola R1 regulator gauge that snap on the end of the sagola xtream 4600 and the different between the R2 sagola regulator gauge thanks or which one would you prefer
@@peteshobbies5383 correction I mean sagola RC1 Guage and sagola RC2 gauge the difference between the two of them would you recommend
Gday, great videos. Can I get your opinion on the best overall gun on the market atm and the best budget gun currently available? Cheers.
Hi buddy, Do you mean a do it all gun or for specific applications? Let me know, and I'll try and help 👍
Great video keep up the good work
Thanks, buddy, much appreciated 👍
Hi Pete, when I first saw this was up mate I thought this isn't a new video as I have that very gun on my gun rack😎😂 but I do agree that this gun is more user friendly than the GTI copy as that is a bit of a beast in fact I was using that (Your) gun this morning for clear and put the Kapci 6050 though it at full fan and full fluid and man does it chuck it out but I still managed to get a dry spot on the panel🤠
I'll be using your NVE tomorrow with the same clear but I will try your settings this time, I think I said when I posted it up that this gun is quite good for it's price🤔
Anyway you did a fantastic job on this one mate it looks superb it laid the base and clear flawlessly so much that I don't think you would get a better finish from the real DV1👌I loved the colour as well mate it really looks nice on the tank👏👍
Thanks Pete👍
Oh my new clearcoat arrived this morning so I'll be using that soon🤐🤫🤓
Hi John, I thought you might agree. The NVE is worth the extra money. It seems a bit better made than the Gti Pro Lite Chinese copies and gives more control with a better universal use pattern if that makes sense 😀.
I'm glad you tried it flat out as it's a bit of a handful, not particularly user-friendly, especially when you consider it's probably likely it will be bought by a beginner.
Cheers, mate. I'll look forward to seeing your videos later for anyone reading this John's work can be found here, instagram.com/johntc02?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Hi Pete, Ntools 4000B or NVE is better gun? Base and clear.
Hi buddy, I would go for the cheapest where you are, I have had a few people telling me they have had problems with the seals on there NVE, I haven't but some have
Porquê a tinta foi colocada no micro ondas não explode ????
Hola amigo, si lo pones en el microondas por mucho tiempo, explotará, así que lo hago unos 10 segundos por cada 100 ml.
@@peteshobbies5383 obrigado
Excellent mate....
Thanks Roger, hope you're well, mate 👍
hello pete, do you think r500 or nve is better for the base and clear coat
Hi Mate, The NVE is a better gun for sure
so for the best result, base at 2bar, clear coat 2.5? How many rounds are open for material consumption?
@milanvrkljan3933 On the NVE, I use 1.8 bar for base coats and 2.0 bar for clear coats.
As far as materials go, I use full fluid for clear coats, for base it varies widely depending on colour and substrate, but if you are unsure, try 1 1/2 turns out from fully closed and then open it more if needed, it depends on what you are seeing, hope that helps 👍
you helped a lot, and how much do you think it is for the base and clear coat for 4000b I use 1.8 bar base, 2.2-2.3 clear coat, for both open from closed 3 circles.
Is that good or?
@milanvrkljan3933 I use 1.8 for base, 2.0 for clear, fluid all the way open
How does this compare to porphis 717 split tip?
Hi Mate. The Porphis is in a completely different league, it's much better in all respects
Im been waiting for this review.. thanks pete😄👍..i wonder if your settings can be use to spray on full car..
Waiting for the next video.ori vs copy..😆
Hi Rey, Yes, there's no reason why not, but if you have relatively simple car panels to do, then I would probably go one out on both fluids as moving faster isn't a problem.
These really can throw it out, and the bit where I say it can overwhelm the cap holds true no matter what you are spraying. It's certainly imo better than the Gti Pro Lite copies as you have more control , cheers, mate 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I forgot to ask..is this similar to c1 or c2 cap?
It's more like a C2, although it's not the same as any of the original caps
Can you use solvent basecoat in this gun or just water based?
I do smart repairs outside and need it to dry quick.
Hi Dan, Yes, I use solvent most of the time and only use solvent with this gun, and it's been fine
I want to get this with a fast clear as I will be spraying in my carport. You mentioned dye back, could I just polish/buff afterwards and it should be fine ? And do you recommend fast clear for bonnet and front bumpers or is it too weak?
Hi Mate, Normally, the faster the hardener, the more dieback you will get. It's not set in stone, but it is quite a reasonable assumption.
The answer is yes, you can normally get it back. It's just more work.
I'm not sure what you mean by too weak 🤔
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you I meant weak as in durability wise compared to MS or HS clear
Normal, the quality of the clear coat has the biggest effect of longevity, as well as preparation of course, remember, clear coat needs to be applied within an hour or so of the base coat to get good adhesion
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you master! so you're saying the quality in terms of the formulation/brand is more important rather than if it's a fast or slow one.
@jonot8547 Yes, that is normally the case. Also, the better the quality of the clear coat, the easier it is to spray as it flows out better 😀
❤very good
Thanks, much appreciated 👍
porque esquentar o verniz e a tinta alguem me explica ???
Hi Mate, it helps it to dry faster and helps the clear coat flow out, so you get a better finish 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 muito obrigado, nao sabia dessa parte, ficou show seu trabalho
@jhonatanmirandalima5923 Obrigado, amigo, muito apreciado 👍
How it compares to the R500..? Thank you
Hi buddy, I think I would rather have this over the 500. Although it's more money, I think this gives a little more control and slightly better atomisation
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Thanks mate, hope alls well with you 👍
Maybe i got a lemon, but the clone i got only lasted me 1 month. The internals got stuck and lubing it didnt help. Performance wise for that 1 month was fantastic. I have many prolite clones that have lasted for years with no issues so im pretty disappointed in this gun.
Hi Jimmy, longevity is always a big question with Chinese guns, I've found most of them to be fairly unreliable, including the Gti Pro Lite ones, certainly if your using these a lot I don't think they will last well which I think I said in the video, for the occasional painter it would fit the bill
@@peteshobbies5383 the chinese prolites, ive been lucky. I use everyday for the past 4-5 years and they still are holding up very very well. This is the first chinese made gun not useable anymore
Hi! Do you think that those fake guns will ruins the good orinal brands..?
Hi buddy, No, I think people who buy them will either not buy an original because they can't afford it or buy a copy and then buy an original.
I confirm
Ight now I'm learning with everage cheap tools (not the cheapest) to get more experience... and later I'll invest in more pro tool, with a better experience.
Thanks for charing yours 👍
Hi buddy, yes, that's often how it works. Thanks for the comment 👍
Hi, what is better?
This chinese nve or original Devilbiss flg 5?
Hi Albert, performance wise, I would say the NVE, I'm sure the FLG5 will last longer. Having said that, I would take the ANI F160 over both of them
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Hai sobat, dan terima kasih 👍
How does it spray compared to an ani f160
Hi Mate, certainly comparable, although I would think the ANI will last longer, and you can get spares for it
Hi. What cfm required for gun?
Thanks
I would guess it's around 11 cfm, so it's not loads but more than some
Pete. Thank you for your reply.
What can you suggest for a low cfm spray gun?
I'm asking because It's only my hobby, and i like to learn and do myself.
My compressor is 11cfm and I don't want to break the bank.
Thank you.
Something like the R500 would be ok. It's cheap, and it sprays quite well . Although it uses twice the amount of air they claim, it's still around 8 cfm, so it should be within your compressor
@peteshobbies5383 thank you Pete. I did some search about R500. And now i make my decision.
Good luck 👍
glass!
Hi buddy, it came out pretty good. It's a good gun, to be honest 👍
Did you really just warm paint up in a microwave 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi buddy, yes, I did 😊, certainly not recommended as I sure it's not something you should do, but I do.
I used to just do it for a clear coat, but these days, I do it for everything in the cooler weather. It's also handy for warming up me tea 🍵, cheers, mate 👍
did you actually microwave that paint? I've never heard of that and it looks completely hack and wrong. I can't trust someone that does that
Hi buddy, yes, I did microwave the paint, I do it with clear coat and primer as well.
I do normally add, and I believe in this video I did, that it's not recommended, but it's what I do and works very well, particularly if it's cold.
I do, and will continue to do, what works for me, just like you will do, and continue to do what works for you.
I'm not sure what it has to do with trust though?
People do the same with epoxy resin to thin it out.
@@peteshobbies5383 took me awhile to formulate a response to this: I meal prep my food for the whole week using quart size plastic Ziplock bags. if I heat it too much the plastic bag melts in very specific spots, the heat is not even. urethane paint is like a plastic film. you are basically damaging the paint unevenly. I cannot imagine any paint manufacturer recommending you microwave paint. use hot water and put your paint can in it. you are not a master chemist, just use it how you're supposed to man. I experiment too but cmon, this is so utterly void of any common sense it's crazy as hell
I think you hit the nail on the head, "if you heat it too much," you said, there my friend is your answer, simply dont heat it too much and you'll be fine, you won't believe me so we will have to agree to differ.
BTW, I accidentally put 200ml of clear coat on for 1 minute instead of 10 seconds. It started to go to jelly, so too much is definitely not recommended . Cheers 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 you're missing the point that how the microwave works is it heats it in a very specific spot. in order for you to get the whole paint you're using to the temperature you want it's damaging certain parts of the paint. I would totally disagree with this. heating the paint is a very good idea, but not like this, hot water would be better
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For me no more equipment from china...
Hi buddy, I appreciate it's not for everyone, but many people are interested in these, so I wanted to try one. Thanks, buddy 👍
Compare to DV! this Gun need more pressure
Hi Louis, this gun performs very well at 2 bar, but the best finish is achieved around 2.1 to 2.2 bar, so 31 to 33 psi, good value for money though 👍
Yea i spray clear with my Devilbiss DV1-C with original C-1 air cap and 1.2mm nozzle at 10psi for high solids clear. If using medium solids production or universal clear i use the 1.3mm nozzle and spray at 8psi. Thats a major difference
@user-un5my5bw4j Hi William, that's really low pressure, I've not tried it at that pressure but will give it a go one time to see how it goes 👍
Hello mate do you by any chance know what number pps adapter fits this gun. Thanks
@mxshredder925 Hi Mate, Yes, it's the same thread as the Devilbiss Tekna Gti Pro Lite and DV1, so it's a Number 3, PPS1 = 16033 and PPS2 = 26033, cheers 👍