I build my own radeon clone following a reef2reef DIY guide, and you understand why they are expensive. I save a few hundred dollars but boy was it a pain in the ass to do.
@@Paquidermo00 Thank you for that tidbit of a wonderful DIY alternative to the rip off lighting offerings. I am now compiling a list of components for a 180 gallon display tank lighting build.
Kinda wonder if they could make the pricing reasonable by getting rid of the “bells and whistles “? Consider that the MHs and T5s we’re replacing are simply tuned to 20k or so and are controlled with a simple on/off timer. After all, once you have a look you like, I can’t see using the cellphone app or playing with the eight separate channels at all. Just give me a g30 tuned to 20k that works with a ramp timer and which doesn’t break the bank!
I have a 72 inch 26 inch deep 30 in tall tank it would cost me way to much to buy these over 1000 a piece for the 30s. My MH/FL combo might cost a bit in power but these LEDs would take a long time to pay themselves back. If the fuses or LEDs didnt give after awhile then they wouldnt pay themselves back. However I'd like to say thank you for the informative video!
bobslaughter yep I agree with you 100% I have 1 KESSIL AP700 on my Reefer 450 and I’ve had excellent growth at $900 for the light. Mounted 10 inches from water surface.
Can't wait to see the XR15 gen 5 pro review. It seems like 3 or 4 should be enough for a 4' SPS tank. 3 XR30's seems overkill and only needed due to shading and not horsepower.
This the good thing about this hobby. You don’t care how expensive this equipment us long you enjoy it and the next thing you realize where my money goes😂
For the money these lights are you would expect the manufacturer to provide this information and not their top retailer. To light my tank with these would essentially double the cost of my entire setup. Thanks but there’s other quality options out there
I cant believe how hard it is to get info on tank equipment sometime. Any return pumps are the same way, so little information on head heights and proper graphs
i guess Im randomly asking but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost the login password. I love any tricks you can offer me
I don’t blame ecotech, they are a business , if reefers fall for these insane prices who’s to blame. If there’s buyers they will keep these insane prices up. Black box (no lenses) and cheap T5 does the trick for me. Reefing is already expensive.
I would live this light but they are too expensive! Plus, I would need 3 or 4 of these. Love you bulk reef supply but I hate that ecotech thinks these lights are worth $800😬
you should give the spectrum also for the settings that you have recommend.Actually, should we not run all channel at 100% as it is the spectrum wich is the closest to the t5?
Huge fan of all the diverse knowledge BRStv provides to us! Thank you and please keep rocking it 😉Crazy how many options for aquarium lovers there are currently versus 20 years ago, when I was a reefer! I’m finally getting back into the tank scene. I’ve come across three Radion XR 30w and looking for any advice on determining if the lights are appropriate for a 90 gal Discs tank before I move forward. I believe the lights are Gen 1 or Gen 2. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
After watching a few hours worth of your episodes, I’ve figured out a great plan for my XR30 G3. Appreciate all the valuable information you provide. Ciao
Ecotech customer service has so far been pretty poor. I bought an expensive ecotech radion xr30 gen 5 pro brand new because I thought I was buying a quality product out of the box. I had expensive sps coral needing a high quality light. I set the whole frickin new light up on my tank and spent all the time to get the cables managed well and mounted neatly only to find the light was not working at all. This was a brand new light and Ecotech made it extremely difficult for me to get the light fixed. So now I have a light with potential other problems in it and scratches on it from when the technician was trying to fix the light. This in my opinion is horrible customer service. This company does not look after its customers
The XR15 typically does best over a 24" x 24" area, so for your tank, it would be a great option. The only thing to mention is that because all of the light will come from a single source, you'll want to be mindful of your SPS' growth patterns for long term success.
amazing but I don't get why so much light is needed - like you would only need 2 XR15s on a 4ft LPS tank and 3 XR15s on SPS (or maybe 2xXR30s if you want really high PAR. Usually BRS tells you exactly what you need but this is overkill - 3 XR30s is like 6 Kessils. Ok so this is for the XR30 and you need to spread them out - I get that and I guess some people have the money but for me a lot of reefers are going to look at this and ask "why are the lights 2x the price of anything else for a 2x2 tank" and the answer is that there is really 2x the light. This throws all the recommendations out for most reefers. Can't wait to see the XR15 guide - I think that will be more realistic. On a 3x2 tank I think one XR30 would make a super clean and cost effective light - so everyone says they are expensive but this way they are probably the best option out there.
I can totally agree that our reasoning for using three fixtures may not have came through very clearly. As we can see from the data, certainly in that first 1-3yrs or so of a SPS dominated type of tank (I mean sticks everywhere)..two fixtures would seemingly get the job done. It's further down the road and age of the tank where our recommendation for a 3rd light comes into play, when the colonies are so big that shading and shadowing become more of a concern. I don't doubt that when we circle back to the XR15s, we will really start to see the value in using multiple fixtures to achieve similar PAR goals for our SPS example which will also most likely come with a lower price point to get there. ;)
@@BRStv Yeah - I get what you are trying to say. I watch all your videos and you guys consistently come at it from the perspective of providing the best value for reefers (and reefers that see value in different ways). I just think this video goes against that. I forget the exact numbers but I think LPS was down at 25% to provide the right levels of light. I think a lot of reefers are going to say that's a 75% waste. The information is super valuable but I think that's the loudest and it's inconsistent with everything you guys stand for. But I do see these new lights as the best value for money lights on the market - and I understood that from your video but I had to draw links. Like because the spread is so even you don't have to turn the light down because of 1 hotspot. You could say for an LPS tank you'd only really need 2 XR15s. Like an XR15 is equivalent to a Kessil. The XR30 is really specifically designed for SPS growers who want high PAR (over 500) it seems but if you want spread - even for SPS in the 200-350 Par range on a 4ft tank I think 3 x XR15s should be perfect. And I think you missed the opportunity to say "on a tank deeper front to back than 2' which is becoming super popular this XR30 really is the perfect light. The only reason I am making the comment is because I love what you guys do. Can't wait for the XR15 vids
I heard the cyan make more colors pop like gold in torches and orange I believe. Do you agree. I dont like a crazy blue tank but I plan on whiter during the days and bluer at nights so either way i iwll have to twek one of them. Which would be better? Do you think I will get more color pop if I go with blue yet turn someon them down for day or more pop not having cyan and getting pro but turning some of the whites down. Or since I only have 36 gallons and 30 inches wide and afraid I may have to turn everything down so much I may get washed out color and be paying all that for not as much pop. Maxspect has cyan and great uv and viloet. Do yall change tax and I wish I knew for sure if I would get two when they come in if I prepay! So I can defiently get the maxspect!
Ryan / Randy Hi Great REVIEW really appreciate all the work that goes into these tests out of interest on your recomended spectrum settings why have you strayed so far on the cool white being run at 50 percent when the Ab plus schedule runs at 24 percent just interested ? as some one running the G5 Blue would struggle to get that much white in the spectrum
I have 100x60x45 cm tank and 2 XR30 PRO on the way coming to my door in this month. Is it enough for sps dominated tank? And how should i arrange the light position for best setup.. thanks..
Might be a dumb question...is it 8 inches from the top or bottom of the light? The light is 1.5 inches which is almost a 20% difference depending upon top or bottom.
Use either the LPS or SPS settings from the 4' tank in this video, depending on the types of corals that you'll be keeping 🙂 We usually go with 1 hour of ramp up at the beginning of the day, 8 hours of steady intensity, then 1 hour of ramp down.
Could I get by with one of these for a 48x24x16 ? Its the deepblue reef ready tank so i have the brace in the middle. I tend to focus more on lps and softies but I do want to have some sps growing and thriving
Get two of the XR15's instead. This will be able to support softies, LPS, and maybe some lower light SPS like monti caps. If you decide to get into SPS like acros in the future, you can always consider a hybrid kit. A single XR30 won't be able to cover a 48" long tank.
How many of us are gonna buy black boxes and solder the radion config in. Lol. In all fairness Radion needs to stop. Almost 1k for a black box spread like Orphek, wifi like AI and black boxes and a recommended spectrum like Kessil. Am I missing what Radion is bringing to the table??
Saint Nova well said. I think they are trying to tick all the boxes that reefers want. Spread, spectrum, par, WiFi. However, black boxes have done this for years (maybe the spectrum is better on the radions, but like you mentioned, just solder the black box). I dunno. I think ecotech missed the brief when it comes to the price.
Ecotech is like apple. Not bringing anything new but charging a premium while other lights do the same thing for a cheaper price. Save tour money and let ecotech go bankrupt.
I started in this hobby in 1996 with 2x 250w Halides and for the love of them would still be running them today, but they're just too expensive too run. T5 alone just don't do it for me, and have been running radions since first gen, admittedly i wasn't impressed with leds lighting in the beginning, but Ecotech have been evolving, sure these leds are expensive, but that's the price of new tech. And to be fair the G5 is pretty much the same price as the G4 on launch.
Sorry, I’m confused. I have a 30 gallon and I’ll probably upgrade to a bit bigger tank. What do you recommend for settings. I currently run everything at 100 except lime, red and white are set at 40. And max intensity is set at 40.
I really wish I could attempt to offer a specific recommendation for your specific tank size and individual settings. However, it's very difficult to predict the PAR output without testing with a PAR meter. If there is any way you could rent or borrow a PAR meter for a day and adjust your light for your specific tank goal, that would be the best path to success for sure!
Don't quite understand, reading 200-300 is ideal par for SPS corals..Your recommended height left an average of 600 par?? Would that not be considered too much?
Basically, if you want to skip over the "how we got there" part of the testing and jump straight to the recommended settings you could just focus on the last section of the testing where we change the overall intensity to meet those SPS PAR goals. Each of the tests build on themselves until we get to the end of the video with recommendations for spectrum settings and intensity settings to meet those 200-350 PAR goals. To find the recommended mounting height we set all channels to 100% MAX. By the time we get to the end of the video you'll see that each channel is set differently to achieve a desired spectrum (color) and the entire intensity output is lowered in order to hit those 200-350 PAR ranges.
Thank you for the review.I have a question thought,should the XR15 be suitable for a 2x2 cube? Ecotech suggests the XR15 for those dimensions yet i see reviews having the bigger XR30.Should the XR15 be sufficient?The 30 looks kinda overkill imo.
We'll be releasing an XR15 version of this video in the coming months. That said, from our experience with the light so far an XR15 would be sufficient for a 2' x 2' tank, so long as it was a mixed reef with some thought put into any SPS coral placement.
@@BRStv so the old par charts you guys used to do measured par grids at 6”, 12” and 18” depths but now you just measure at 6” depth to figure out what height to mount the fixture. I personally felt that showing par at 6,12, and 18 inches showed a more complete picture. Hope that clarifies my question.
It's actually far less prominent with the new lens design. Previous models were like a spot light rather than this soft diffused form factor. Because the blending and spread has been improved there is less color separation meaning less disco ball. Actually the dynamic spectrum test shows this pretty well.
Hello, I have an elos 70 system, would one of these will cover 30”x21” footprint for mixed sps/lps tank and using the single rms mount that will be about 10” of the water?
my tank is 32" long, 24" wide, and 24" deep. It seems like I am flirting with 1 or 2 of these fixtures for a mixed reef. Could I get by with 1 fixture?
With the 32" length, you're probably going to be better off with two smaller fixtures vs one larger fixture. Two XR15's would be a great choice for a mixed reef of this size.
So ultimately can you set the Pro to the exact spectrum and par as the Blue is out of the box? Is the Blue just a subset of the Pro? In a nutshell does the Pro give a wider range of spectrum and par compared to the Blue, but still the ability to set it to the Radion Blue if thats what you desire? If that is the case then why would you limit yourself with the Blue, especially at the same price point?
The Pro is capable of the same spectrum as the Blue, but with more white LEDs mixed in. The goal was to create a light that looked similar to a metal halide bulb.
We had the schedule intensity set to 100%. The schedule intensity is best used if you need to turn down all points by an equal amount after initial setup so that you don't have to adjust each point individually.
@BulkReefSupply would you recommend 4 XR30 Gen 5 pros or 5 Gen 5 XR15 Pro’s for a 6foot long, 2 foot high by 2 foot deep sps Dominant Peninsula tank? I called your customer team and got conflicting answers so I thought I try on here as I am making a pretty big purchase.
Instead of the XR30's, I would suggest going with three XR15's. This will save you some cash vs going with two of the XR30's and still give you phenomenal results.
How does the g5 compare to a g4 with a diffuser is the real question... I would assume they are so damn close it’s probably not even much of a difference
Obviously staring into it would be bad for your eyes, but there hasn't been anything to suggest that these aquarium lights would be harmful to your health.
Certainly the PAR data shows that you can. Years down the road when the SPS have grown into large mature colonies, that's when we're more concerned about light coming from all directions to reduce shading. I think we'll learn a lot about the XR15 capabilities when we test them in the next couple of months. They might wind up being the ideal choice.
Wow wish in germany we could have such wow videos, thanx. Can you say how loud the lamp is? Or even how 2 of them would be? In db? I am very sensitive to that. THANX A LOT
A good high end "led" light thats enough for a say a standard 75 gal with WiFi programming etc should run around 250 bucks US.....WTH is with every led company thinking they invented light spectums....they all do the same thing now....show me something new for a band per light
@@tigcarn which device are you wanting it for? On playstore for example, just type Mobius in the search bar and it appears before you even submit the search.
Ecotech just wanting $$$$ form all of us. I don't support black box that stuff is trash. I was opting for some AI hydra 32s, it seems there something fishy going on. Apparently, Ecotech is nerfing the AI prime & hydra there not Wifi controlled anymore, no PC web access, and etc. Ecotech owns AI why would it be terrible for AI to outcompete Ecotech Radion lights. I'm just going to buy Gen4 Radions and upgrade them to Mobius problem solved.
Not worth it for that kind of money ,can get Chinese black box LEDs that last just as long for $150 for 2 lights that equal. $840 for 1 light pssh sick
Agreed, these pack a powerful punch just like their predecessors the G4 and G3. In all fairness for all tests we conducted except for target PAR range testing, these were set to all channels at max which 95% of users won't do. Actually if we look at the capabilities of these XR30s and where we landed on intensity settings for our BRS Recommended spectrum, I'm willing to bet that when we circle around to the XR15 testing we're really going to see a benefit in spread and output using multiple (less costly) fixtures to achieve our same goals for LPS and SPS.
Don´t be so sure about that. I had problems with both, my v4 gen 2 and v4gen 2 compact. Burned through LEDs after just one year of usage.... They replaced them without hesitation, but was only good luck that I´ve seen the faulty ones
And that company continues being a ripoff. I wont be shocked if they go out of business later on especially with much more cheaper alternatives coming out that do the literal exact same thing. Radions are just garbage for price alone.
@Phillyfishguy for that price, I would. This light better heat up some food for that price. Especially when other lights do the exact same thing and have the exact same features and light spread or in some cases, better light spread, for a much cheaper price. Compared to that, these lights garbage.
Saving my preferred reefer reward for this beast.. should have one of these by 2030
The price for the light is crazy when you realise how much led costs to buy...
If only they weren’t so expensive I’m sure it would be a great light for my tank!
Chinese box LEDs or the ai lights are a better value
I build my own radeon clone following a reef2reef DIY guide, and you understand why they are expensive. I save a few hundred dollars but boy was it a pain in the ass to do.
@@Paquidermo00 Thank you for that tidbit of a wonderful DIY alternative to the rip off lighting offerings. I am now compiling a list of components for a 180 gallon display tank lighting build.
Kinda wonder if they could make the pricing reasonable by getting rid of the “bells and whistles “? Consider that the MHs and T5s we’re replacing are simply tuned to 20k or so and are controlled with a simple on/off timer. After all, once you have a look you like, I can’t see using the cellphone app or playing with the eight separate channels at all. Just give me a g30 tuned to 20k that works with a ramp timer and which doesn’t break the bank!
Would love to learn from you guys at BRS as it’s always a pleasure to see all the info you guys bring on table for everyone in this hobby
We love BRS y'all always come through !!! On every subject , On every question
I have a 72 inch 26 inch deep 30 in tall tank it would cost me way to much to buy these over 1000 a piece for the 30s. My MH/FL combo might cost a bit in power but these LEDs would take a long time to pay themselves back. If the fuses or LEDs didnt give after awhile then they wouldnt pay themselves back. However I'd like to say thank you for the informative video!
Yeesh... To light my 72in long tank I'd have to spend over 3600$ in lighting lol
bobslaughter yep I agree with you 100% I have 1 KESSIL AP700 on my Reefer 450 and I’ve had excellent growth at $900 for the light. Mounted 10 inches from water surface.
Can't wait to see the XR15 gen 5 pro review. It seems like 3 or 4 should be enough for a 4' SPS tank. 3 XR30's seems overkill and only needed due to shading and not horsepower.
This the good thing about this hobby. You don’t care how expensive this equipment us long you enjoy it and the next thing you realize where my money goes😂
For the money these lights are you would expect the manufacturer to provide this information and not their top retailer. To light my tank with these would essentially double the cost of my entire setup. Thanks but there’s other quality options out there
Better options in this case too.
I cant believe how hard it is to get info on tank equipment sometime. Any return pumps are the same way, so little information on head heights and proper graphs
Way too much. Up here in Canadaland, it's $1150 per module.
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I stupidly lost the login password. I love any tricks you can offer me
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Thanks for the time and effort you put into this video BRS!
The team and I really appreciate that Marcus!
I don’t blame ecotech, they are a business , if reefers fall for these insane prices who’s to blame. If there’s buyers they will keep these insane prices up. Black box (no lenses) and cheap T5 does the trick for me. Reefing is already expensive.
Would love to see this kind of testing using my Orphek Atlantik V4. As always,great job and thanks.
This is such a great video! Everything you need to know to set up your XR30's / XR15's! Thanks so much
I would live this light but they are too expensive! Plus, I would need 3 or 4 of these. Love you bulk reef supply but I hate that ecotech thinks these lights are worth $800😬
I won one on the reef builders live stream so mine is coming soon it was free🤣😂 it’s the Radeon XR 30 G5 pro. Can’t what to get it up and running 👍🏻
you should give the spectrum also for the settings that you have recommend.Actually, should we not run all channel at 100% as it is the spectrum wich is the closest to the t5?
Hi Guys
Could you tell me what BRS recommended spacing would be for 2 XR30 blues on a 3ft x 2ft reef tank.
Huge fan of all the diverse knowledge BRStv provides to us! Thank you and please keep rocking it 😉Crazy how many options for aquarium lovers there are currently versus 20 years ago, when I was a reefer! I’m finally getting back into the tank scene. I’ve come across three Radion XR 30w and looking for any advice on determining if the lights are appropriate for a 90 gal Discs tank before I move forward. I believe the lights are Gen 1 or Gen 2. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
After watching a few hours worth of your episodes, I’ve figured out a great plan for my XR30 G3. Appreciate all the valuable information you provide. Ciao
Great video👍🏾 However we're these test all done with the upgraded diffusers?
These test were done without the optional diffusers.
just going to say with T5's lol
I've got the blue but not sure if I want the pro now🤔 I wonder if I got 2 blue and 1 pro would it work for me
I know this is a yr old but can we come back to this light with a defused setting?
I'm waiting for the SR71 G-Funk "Darkness Assassin" to come out before I plunk down all that hard cash.
I want to buy 3x xr15 blue for my 47“ tank. What will be the perfect distance from the water?
We found that 8" off the water surface is our recommended mounting height for the XR15 Blue fixtures.
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Ecotech customer service has so far been pretty poor. I bought an expensive ecotech radion xr30 gen 5 pro brand new because I thought I was buying a quality product out of the box. I had expensive sps coral needing a high quality light. I set the whole frickin new light up on my tank and spent all the time to get the cables managed well and mounted neatly only to find the light was not working at all. This was a brand new light and Ecotech made it extremely difficult for me to get the light fixed. So now I have a light with potential other problems in it and scratches on it from when the technician was trying to fix the light. This in my opinion is horrible customer service. This company does not look after its customers
over $800 bucks per light, maybe BRS will donate a couple to me!!!!!
Would love to know how you mounted the lights over the 4 ft tanks
idea about setting for a cube 18"? some lps and sps!
Can I get away with just one xr30 pro on my waterbox 50.3 which is 35.4” wide?
brstv is always on point thanks guys you mean a lot to us
So when would you even buy the xr15 ? What size for a 22x22x18. 32 gallon bio Cube. One 15 or a 30?
Mixed reef
The XR15 typically does best over a 24" x 24" area, so for your tank, it would be a great option. The only thing to mention is that because all of the light will come from a single source, you'll want to be mindful of your SPS' growth patterns for long term success.
amazing but I don't get why so much light is needed - like you would only need 2 XR15s on a 4ft LPS tank and 3 XR15s on SPS (or maybe 2xXR30s if you want really high PAR. Usually BRS tells you exactly what you need but this is overkill - 3 XR30s is like 6 Kessils.
Ok so this is for the XR30 and you need to spread them out - I get that and I guess some people have the money but for me a lot of reefers are going to look at this and ask "why are the lights 2x the price of anything else for a 2x2 tank" and the answer is that there is really 2x the light. This throws all the recommendations out for most reefers. Can't wait to see the XR15 guide - I think that will be more realistic. On a 3x2 tank I think one XR30 would make a super clean and cost effective light - so everyone says they are expensive but this way they are probably the best option out there.
I can totally agree that our reasoning for using three fixtures may not have came through very clearly. As we can see from the data, certainly in that first 1-3yrs or so of a SPS dominated type of tank (I mean sticks everywhere)..two fixtures would seemingly get the job done. It's further down the road and age of the tank where our recommendation for a 3rd light comes into play, when the colonies are so big that shading and shadowing become more of a concern.
I don't doubt that when we circle back to the XR15s, we will really start to see the value in using multiple fixtures to achieve similar PAR goals for our SPS example which will also most likely come with a lower price point to get there. ;)
@@BRStv Yeah - I get what you are trying to say. I watch all your videos and you guys consistently come at it from the perspective of providing the best value for reefers (and reefers that see value in different ways). I just think this video goes against that. I forget the exact numbers but I think LPS was down at 25% to provide the right levels of light. I think a lot of reefers are going to say that's a 75% waste. The information is super valuable but I think that's the loudest and it's inconsistent with everything you guys stand for.
But I do see these new lights as the best value for money lights on the market - and I understood that from your video but I had to draw links. Like because the spread is so even you don't have to turn the light down because of 1 hotspot. You could say for an LPS tank you'd only really need 2 XR15s. Like an XR15 is equivalent to a Kessil. The XR30 is really specifically designed for SPS growers who want high PAR (over 500) it seems but if you want spread - even for SPS in the 200-350 Par range on a 4ft tank I think 3 x XR15s should be perfect.
And I think you missed the opportunity to say "on a tank deeper front to back than 2' which is becoming super popular this XR30 really is the perfect light.
The only reason I am making the comment is because I love what you guys do.
Can't wait for the XR15 vids
Why corals farms put the radion so high when the test show they should be at 9 only?
Coral farms don't care about the amount of light spilling into the surrounding room 🙂
@@BRStv yes but their is a reason why they do like this? It gives better results??
I heard the cyan make more colors pop like gold in torches and orange I believe. Do you agree. I dont like a crazy blue tank but I plan on whiter during the days and bluer at nights so either way i iwll have to twek one of them. Which would be better? Do you think I will get more color pop if I go with blue yet turn someon them down for day or more pop not having cyan and getting pro but turning some of the whites down. Or since I only have 36 gallons and 30 inches wide and afraid I may have to turn everything down so much I may get washed out color and be paying all that for not as much pop. Maxspect has cyan and great uv and viloet. Do yall change tax and I wish I knew for sure if I would get two when they come in if I prepay! So I can defiently get the maxspect!
Ryan / Randy Hi Great REVIEW really appreciate all the work that goes into these tests out of interest on your recomended spectrum settings why have you strayed so far on the cool white being run at 50 percent when the Ab plus schedule runs at 24 percent just interested ? as some one running the G5 Blue would struggle to get that much white in the spectrum
If my tank is 6'x3' x 30" height and i have the plastic cross braces on the top - could you give me advice on that? Thanks!
What if you like both at different times of the day?
Although it may not be necessary do the G5’s fit the aquatic life hybrid fixture still?
If i have a 36 inch tank should i get two
You'd likely be much better off with two smaller XR15 fixtures instead of a single XR30 :)
Bulk Reef Supply thanks 🙏🏽 im setting up a red sea reefer 250 and im looking into the best setup all around
Bulk Reef Supply I also have a 36” tank (40 breeder). What do you think about two XR30s with the intensity reduced vs two XR 15s? What kind of spread?
I have 100x60x45 cm tank and 2 XR30 PRO on the way coming to my door in this month. Is it enough for sps dominated tank? And how should i arrange the light position for best setup.. thanks..
Will the height of setting the light changes is the tank is 16” tall
Ideal mounting height will be the same. You may have to reduce overall intensity slightly for a shorter tank, depending on your par goals.
I just received the Radio G5 XR15 Pro, I have the Redsea Reefer 170 Lps tank what should my settings be? thanks
Might be a dumb question...is it 8 inches from the top or bottom of the light? The light is 1.5 inches which is almost a 20% difference depending upon top or bottom.
From the light source (bottom of the fixture) to the top of the water surface
hello can you advise me for a lighting program with mobius I have a mixed tank I have two radions g5xr30 on a red sea 450 thank you
Use either the LPS or SPS settings from the 4' tank in this video, depending on the types of corals that you'll be keeping 🙂 We usually go with 1 hour of ramp up at the beginning of the day, 8 hours of steady intensity, then 1 hour of ramp down.
Could I get by with one of these for a 48x24x16 ? Its the deepblue reef ready tank so i have the brace in the middle. I tend to focus more on lps and softies but I do want to have some sps growing and thriving
Get two of the XR15's instead. This will be able to support softies, LPS, and maybe some lower light SPS like monti caps. If you decide to get into SPS like acros in the future, you can always consider a hybrid kit. A single XR30 won't be able to cover a 48" long tank.
how much kelvin are the sps spectrum settings ?
How many of us are gonna buy black boxes and solder the radion config in. Lol. In all fairness Radion needs to stop. Almost 1k for a black box spread like Orphek, wifi like AI and black boxes and a recommended spectrum like Kessil. Am I missing what Radion is bringing to the table??
Saint Nova well said. I think they are trying to tick all the boxes that reefers want. Spread, spectrum, par, WiFi. However, black boxes have done this for years (maybe the spectrum is better on the radions, but like you mentioned, just solder the black box). I dunno. I think ecotech missed the brief when it comes to the price.
Ecotech is like apple. Not bringing anything new but charging a premium while other lights do the same thing for a cheaper price. Save tour money and let ecotech go bankrupt.
eegernades hahaha I was thinking the exact same thing earlier.
There is less reason now not to go with T5 fixture with supplement led bar now that power consumption and initial upfront are similar.
I started in this hobby in 1996 with 2x 250w Halides and for the love of them would still be running them today, but they're just too expensive too run. T5 alone just don't do it for me, and have been running radions since first gen, admittedly i wasn't impressed with leds lighting in the beginning, but Ecotech have been evolving, sure these leds are expensive, but that's the price of new tech. And to be fair the G5 is pretty much the same price as the G4 on launch.
Sorry, I’m confused. I have a 30 gallon and I’ll probably upgrade to a bit bigger tank. What do you recommend for settings. I currently run everything at 100 except lime, red and white are set at 40. And max intensity is set at 40.
I really wish I could attempt to offer a specific recommendation for your specific tank size and individual settings. However, it's very difficult to predict the PAR output without testing with a PAR meter. If there is any way you could rent or borrow a PAR meter for a day and adjust your light for your specific tank goal, that would be the best path to success for sure!
Merci pour ta vidéo !!! 👍👍👍
Don't quite understand, reading 200-300 is ideal par for SPS corals..Your recommended height left an average of 600 par?? Would that not be considered too much?
Basically, if you want to skip over the "how we got there" part of the testing and jump straight to the recommended settings you could just focus on the last section of the testing where we change the overall intensity to meet those SPS PAR goals.
Each of the tests build on themselves until we get to the end of the video with recommendations for spectrum settings and intensity settings to meet those 200-350 PAR goals. To find the recommended mounting height we set all channels to 100% MAX. By the time we get to the end of the video you'll see that each channel is set differently to achieve a desired spectrum (color) and the entire intensity output is lowered in order to hit those 200-350 PAR ranges.
how does that spacing carry over to a 7 foot tank?
Is there a video for the Radion XR30 G5 Blue or is this basically the same?
Here you go 🙂
th-cam.com/video/h_SdxgxJQY4/w-d-xo.html
Bulk Reef Supply thanks!!
Thank you for the review.I have a question thought,should the XR15 be suitable for a 2x2 cube? Ecotech suggests the XR15 for those dimensions yet i see reviews having the bigger XR30.Should the XR15 be sufficient?The 30 looks kinda overkill imo.
We'll be releasing an XR15 version of this video in the coming months. That said, from our experience with the light so far an XR15 would be sufficient for a 2' x 2' tank, so long as it was a mixed reef with some thought put into any SPS coral placement.
How come you measure light in this manner as opposed to the par charts at 6 12 and 18 inches?
I'm not sure I understand the question
@@BRStv so the old par charts you guys used to do measured par grids at 6”, 12” and 18” depths but now you just measure at 6” depth to figure out what height to mount the fixture. I personally felt that showing par at 6,12, and 18 inches showed a more complete picture. Hope that clarifies my question.
Is Discoball effect still there? Seems like it should be even worse than in previous gens due to led spread?
It's actually far less prominent with the new lens design. Previous models were like a spot light rather than this soft diffused form factor. Because the blending and spread has been improved there is less color separation meaning less disco ball. Actually the dynamic spectrum test shows this pretty well.
@@BRStv thank you
Hello,
I have an elos 70 system, would one of these will cover 30”x21” footprint for mixed sps/lps tank and using the single rms mount that will be about 10” of the water?
For that footprint, you'll be better off with two XR15's instead of the single XR30.
my tank is 32" long, 24" wide, and 24" deep. It seems like I am flirting with 1 or 2 of these fixtures for a mixed reef. Could I get by with 1 fixture?
With the 32" length, you're probably going to be better off with two smaller fixtures vs one larger fixture. Two XR15's would be a great choice for a mixed reef of this size.
Hi sir ! How about UV if tank in bedroom ?
Hmm..Maybe I'm not following. I'm not sure how tank location would change the optimal settings for coral growth.
So ultimately can you set the Pro to the exact spectrum and par as the Blue is out of the box? Is the Blue just a subset of the Pro? In a nutshell does the Pro give a wider range of spectrum and par compared to the Blue, but still the ability to set it to the Radion Blue if thats what you desire?
If that is the case then why would you limit yourself with the Blue, especially at the same price point?
The Pro is capable of the same spectrum as the Blue, but with more white LEDs mixed in. The goal was to create a light that looked similar to a metal halide bulb.
@@BRStv so the pro is closer to that of an halide?
Bulk Reef Supply The question is then, why buy the Blue for the same price if it is just giving you a restricted subset of the Pro version?
Maybe a silly question but , I know you set the Point intensity at 75% but the overall intense do you to keep 100 on an sps tank ?
We had the schedule intensity set to 100%. The schedule intensity is best used if you need to turn down all points by an equal amount after initial setup so that you don't have to adjust each point individually.
@@BRStv thanks that’s what I thought and I have done..also thanks for the quick response.. happy Christmas to you all
@BulkReefSupply would you recommend 4 XR30 Gen 5 pros or 5 Gen 5 XR15 Pro’s for a 6foot long, 2 foot high by 2 foot deep sps Dominant Peninsula tank? I called your customer team and got conflicting answers so I thought I try on here as I am making a pretty big purchase.
What did you go with and do you regret it? I've got the same question now lol.
@@TheWidowMaker. hey man I ended up going with the xr30’s and DO NOT REGRET IT ONE BIT!!!
Can y’all do this for the primes 16
It's not in the works right now, but it is something that we'd like to do in the future :)
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!
My tank is 36'' Wx18"Dx16"H . how many would I need for sps dom. reef ?
Instead of the XR30's, I would suggest going with three XR15's. This will save you some cash vs going with two of the XR30's and still give you phenomenal results.
How does the g5 compare to a g4 with a diffuser is the real question... I would assume they are so damn close it’s probably not even much of a difference
A radion xr15 G5 is sufficient for a 50 cm length??
You shouldn't have any issues running a single XR15 fixture over a tank of that length.
What’s the schedule intensity set at
The schedule intensity is set to 100%. Point intensity is what we're adjusting here.
please answer this question: is the uv light coming out from the unit harmful to human?
Obviously staring into it would be bad for your eyes, but there hasn't been anything to suggest that these aquarium lights would be harmful to your health.
most of the UV in aquarium lights is really "near uv"
can you keep sps with just two of these? or three xr15?
Certainly the PAR data shows that you can. Years down the road when the SPS have grown into large mature colonies, that's when we're more concerned about light coming from all directions to reduce shading. I think we'll learn a lot about the XR15 capabilities when we test them in the next couple of months. They might wind up being the ideal choice.
how far down from the top of th water surface are you measuring?
In all of our tests, we measure at 6", 12" and 18" inches underwater.
On your par recordings, which depth are those recorded at?
test the Mitras from GHL!!!
Wow wish in germany we could have such wow videos, thanx.
Can you say how loud the lamp is? Or even how 2 of them would be? In db?
I am very sensitive to that.
THANX A LOT
We've not tested the decibel level, but don't notice them on here at the office.
A good high end "led" light thats enough for a say a standard 75 gal with WiFi programming etc should run around 250 bucks US.....WTH is with every led company thinking they invented light spectums....they all do the same thing now....show me something new for a band per light
Im using one on my 57" tank and 24" deep and its enough
i have 2 xr30 gen4 pro , is it worth it to upgrade ?
If you're still getting growth, stick with them imo, don't need to fix something that's not broken. Save your cash for something you absolutely need.
I'd upgrade wait and the lights will continue to lower in price and later you'll pay more money to upgrade
In our recent livestream, Ryan and I discuss this very question. ;)
Diffusers and chill. Lol
Where's Thomas!?
He's working on some videos right now and will be making an appearance on the TH-cam channel in the next week or two :)
Where do I download the mobius app
You can get it from Ecotech Marine's website or if not there, from the Google play store for Android , and the Apple store for Apple.
@@dean8553 I'm definitely not finding it anywhere. All I find is the eco smart live app
@@tigcarn which device are you wanting it for?
On playstore for example, just type Mobius in the search bar and it appears before you even submit the search.
You should be able to find it by searching for "mobius" on the app store.
Ecotech just wanting $$$$ form all of us. I don't support black box that stuff is trash. I was opting for some AI hydra 32s, it seems there something fishy going on. Apparently, Ecotech is nerfing the AI prime & hydra there not Wifi controlled anymore, no PC web access, and etc. Ecotech owns AI why would it be terrible for AI to outcompete Ecotech Radion lights. I'm just going to buy Gen4 Radions and upgrade them to Mobius problem solved.
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Think I'll just run my G4 Pro's with T5 Hybrid until they eventually go out.... These are not worth the $$$ or the upgrade!
Not worth it for that kind of money ,can get Chinese black box LEDs that last just as long for $150 for 2 lights that equal. $840 for 1 light pssh sick
This is too much light...They should have focused even more on even spread. 1k par hot spots?? This would be great for very deep tanks.
Agreed, these pack a powerful punch just like their predecessors the G4 and G3. In all fairness for all tests we conducted except for target PAR range testing, these were set to all channels at max which 95% of users won't do. Actually if we look at the capabilities of these XR30s and where we landed on intensity settings for our BRS Recommended spectrum, I'm willing to bet that when we circle around to the XR15 testing we're really going to see a benefit in spread and output using multiple (less costly) fixtures to achieve our same goals for LPS and SPS.
Or you could just buy Orphek Atlantic's and not have to replace your lights for decades.. :o
Don´t be so sure about that. I had problems with both, my v4 gen 2 and v4gen 2 compact. Burned through LEDs after just one year of usage.... They replaced them without hesitation, but was only good luck that I´ve seen the faulty ones
Why are you shouting. makes me not wat to spend $950. for light that costs $30 on Alibaba
if want lost money.. Go buy🤣
And that company continues being a ripoff. I wont be shocked if they go out of business later on especially with much more cheaper alternatives coming out that do the literal exact same thing. Radions are just garbage for price alone.
@Phillyfishguy for that price, I would. This light better heat up some food for that price. Especially when other lights do the exact same thing and have the exact same features and light spread or in some cases, better light spread, for a much cheaper price. Compared to that, these lights garbage.