What's new with the Radion G5 XR30 Blue? Complete setup guide.
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- Is the Radion G5 XR30 Blue the right light for you? Want to know how BRS would use this light? Today we give a full setup, test and review of the newest Radion line from EcoTech Marine...starting with the Radion G5 XR30 Blue!
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Great info from you guys and im sure it was a Ton of work, so thanks for this 👍👍👍
I started with 3 of them on a 1.80 meter tank. Next shipment I'll get on more. Great info guys 😊
Randy - this is SO awesome! Super useful - thanks ;)
One of the best Brs video`s i have seen...i have G4 30 pro. But this is great info.
Thank you randy
Thanks for the great video on my new light I just bought from you guys!
Great to hear!
Awesome video
Randy- I may have missed this... were your recommendations (e.g. 8” height and spacing) for the SPS tanks based on using the diffusers as well?
What do you recommend 66x36x22 sps ?
Right now I have 3 g5 perpendicular worms 50.5 10” off the edge 8 inch’s apart from each Fixture
How about a video on the xr15’s, all the focus seems to be on the 30’s, on the Ecotech website they say the 15’s can cover 24-32”, a lot of people will be looking at the 15 for there 24” tanks as a cheaper option.
Hey is the par level taken at the bottom of the tank? And running at 100% intensity? How deep is the tank?
Is the light behind Randy set at ab plus or in other words 100 percent on everything. I have been waiting for them to come in but I found someone who has blues so I might get them, wanted to see how blue they actually are and that looks pretty blue. If I tune down blue could I still get the same pop as using the pro and having blue tuned up and white lowered . I like a crisp day time look but dont want to lose pop. If I prepay am I guaranteed a pro? If I dont buy the blues? Lots of people waiting and every store is out! Kinda doubtful that this late in the game that I will get one even if prepaid If you go in order of payment. Only other light that seems to compare that is cheaper is maxspect razor as far as spectrum, and having alot of uv or acentic or deep blue or whatever its called and I know you gave maxspect high review when you coverd it. Dont really want one on legs and dosnt look to have any shimmer either!
what are your recommendations for light placement for the waterbox lx 320? 86x30
I like it
Whats the max height the RMS mount holds the light?
Hi guys, I am in the middle of setting up my 12ft x 3ft x 2ft fish tank, based on your light spacing. How many lights would you recommend over this tank. It will have no SPS corals, will be lps and softies.
Honestly, you may want to consider going with the XR15 so that you can evenly space them from front to back. Since your tank is 3' from front to back, you'd really be best off with two rows of lights. For a softie/LPS tank, going with a total of 12 XR15s, 6 in the front row and 6 in the back row, would likely be your best option in terms of coverage. Either way, that's a BIG tank!
I've got 4 xr30 over a 525xl mixed reef, would spacing the lights 13" apart (centre of the light to centre) be a good option? I notice you spaced 3 xr30 blues 14" from each other on the 4ft tank
Given that your tank is longer than our 48" long test tank, you may have to play with the spacing a bit. I'd check out the spacing on our XR15 video. While this might not translate perfectly to a longer tank with larger light fixtures, you can use that spacing ratio and adjust for your tank length to get a good starting point.
Can you please do a video on the xr15 g5 pro? I just got it and have no idea how to set it for my redsea reefer 170 lps tank! Thanks
We do plan on releasing an XR15 version of this video. Not sure exactly when it'll be released, but we're hoping to have it finished within the next month or two.
So question on this once you establish the spread at 100% power will lowering the power mess up anything to do with the spread and require things to be re-adjusted? or as you reduce intensity everything as far as spread remains the same?
As you lower intensity, spread will remain very similar. Not enough difference to really include it in the equation.
@@BRStv Great thank you very much I was very curious about this. But you are saying your tests at 100% and if someone at home is running at 20% the difference is so minimal it doesnt matter?
Out of curiosity, do you think this new design is more for heat management issues, a way to cram more LEDs into the same heatsink by spreading them out more? Or because they felt like spreading out the LEDs gives better light? If the later, why do you think it took them so long to figure it out?
I think it's the later - that's what ET say and it makes sense - they did redesign the fan (to be quieter not more effecient) and I think they said it will come on less. What they said they wanted to do with this light is chop off the top of the cone (the hotspot) in comparison to the G4 - I think it's about diffusers (they utilised a different technique) and blending of the light. When the G4 came out it was more trendy to have peak par - but also if they spread out the LEDs I think they would have had less blending = disco ball. Now the push is to mimic T5s but still get the shimmer. I actually feel like they made a HUGE leap since the G4s. That's my 2c anyhow. I also suspect this light (from Ecotech's perspective) is about having less lights above your tank - so you get great light coverage from a sleeker look - plus there is a trend for tanks that are deeper front to back than 60cm.
ReefBuilders has a video with the creators, its a mix of even spread and adding more LEDs
What if I have a 65 gal...3 foot tank...wish they would make 1 light for that
It would be nice :) I know it's not one fixture that you were hoping for, but a pair of XR15 fixtures would work great over a 3' tank!
Just ordered today at BRS, 10% off Radion Gen 30 Blue for my IM Lagoon 25.
Thanks for the support! Sounds like this is going to be an awesome build! 😃
Randy I’m your biggest fan!!! 😍 🎶psycho theme music🎶 😂
Great video, I'm binge watching your episodes all night like I would for Game of Thrones or The Expanse series. Thank you for these informative series, you guys really do add alot to our community.
I do have a question: You mentioned the light diffuser helps spread the lights more evenly, so how would that impact the recommended intensity levels of the XR30's? If I go for 20% intensity for LPS corals as per your recommendations, then how much higher should I increase the intensity to compensate for PAR reduction when I use the Light Diffuser?
Thanks again for your contribution to our hobby. I wish you the best in your endeavors, so you can grow your audience to more people, so that we can admire Mother Nature in our homes, considering the sad state of our oceans. Unfortunately, I think within our lifetime we will see the coral reefs decline more and more. I believe that in the near future, our hobby will not only be for business or pleasure, but will help preserve life that would otherwise become extinct in Nature.
That's a good question. I don't believe we've done a before and after diffuser measurement of par on the new G5 models, but based on previous Radion's, I think it's safe to assume about a ~20% loss in par with the diffuser.
when you have point intensity set at 60%... what do you have schedule intensity set at?
For these tests, 100% schedule intensity. The point intensity is the only thing that Randy is adjusting.
So how is the tank now?
My question is...i have a 40 gallon AIO innovative marine and do you think the G5 XR 15 blue would be a good fix/spread for the size or go with the G5 XR 30 blue.
What are you planning to keep? SPS. dominant, probably go for with XR30. LPS, softies dominant, or a mixed reef, XR15 is plenty.
Website GL my question is does it have enough spread to cover the size of tank. Was thinking the XR30 might be to wide of a spread.
@@calfire69 yes an XR 15 will have enough spread for sure.
An XR15 will have enough spread for a Nuvo 40 so long as it's not an SPS only tank where shadowing could come into play.
Bulk Reef Supply I’m also running aquatic life t5 24” 4 bulb to reduce shadows and yes was thinking sps dominate
Would love a video on how to use the app. Just got the light and trying to get it set up and the app makes no sense to me not a fan at all so far.
lol did you figure it out?
@@Cherub72 took me forever also but yeah finally figured it out. My main gripe is I didn't know options were there cause I had to click an itty little dot or line to adjust it. There's no crash course it's just here have fun lol.
I'm not trying to come off as petulant but what is the point of buying a really expensive light like this just to run it at 20-40%? I know the coloration these get is great and higher intensity alows for deeper tanks but wouldn't it be better just to make the lights max around the 50% of what it already is and lower the cost a bit? Serious question.
You're exactly right. Our testing approach is to focus on a single light model and provide recommendations for using it as if no other option exists, even though we all know there are a multitude of combinations we could use to achieve similar goals. As we continue testing the new Radion G5 offering, I won't be surprised if we find that a single XR15 will be ideal for our LPS tank goals in a 60gal cube (where we will certainly use more than 25% of the light) or maybe even 4x-5x Radion XR15s for our SPS goals on the 120gal tank. Making a single video that compares four different models would not only be extremely time consuming to watch, but would also wind up being very difficult to provide direct recommendations and advice on setting them up which is why we separate them out into their own individual tests.
@@BRStv Thanks for the reply and actually doing these tests. I know that you guys are also only focusing on a single light at certain dimensions as well as only using single lights for the whole tank's lighting. I would love to see you guys do these kinds of precise testing on T-5 bulbs as well!
Fantastic answer and explanation to the same question I was thinking. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work BRS
Am I doing to much I have a old gen3 pro and a Gen4 pro, if I get this can I use it as my third light for my 120cm x50cm x50cm tank 300l On one of those tracks
Also where should I put the blue g5 in the centre maybe
More light fixtures will always mean better coverage. You'll just want to make sure that you're not providing the corals with too much light. We generally shoot for 75-150 par for LPS and softies, then 200-350 par for SPS.
how many tips for a 31x31 cube? 2 are good to cover the whole area. Thanks
You may have to mount them a bit higher to cover the full 31" width, but two XR30's will get the job done in that area for just about any coral type. I would suggest mounting them side by side, but positioned perpendicular to the front of the tank for max coverage.
@@BRStv very kind thanks for the advice🙏
I also thought about 6-8 orphek or3 bars. better in your opinion? 6 i succeed 3 reefday 2 sky blue 1 bluplus
@@salvatorepalumbo8326 The LED bars like those from Orphek to a fantastic job replicating the time tested T5's. Hard to go wrong if you decide to go that direction instead.
How many of these would you recommend for a 210g mixed reef?
What are the dimensions of your tank?
72x28x24. I currently have 4 original AI hydras that I am replacing with radion xr30 blues. Just trying to see if i should go with a 4th light.
So what was the schedule % when you did the sps setting. I noticed that you always mention every channel at 100% when taking par reading but you dont mention schedule intensity %
That was at 100% for our test.
@@BRStv thanks guys always informative as ever! 👍👍
I’d like to see the difference between blue and non blue running AB+
th-cam.com/video/Tsyshyyr_9Y/w-d-xo.html
Hi... can u do it for a 3ft tank?
Unfortunately we can't test every tank size, so we had to pick two of the most popular sizes out there. Good news is that our tests can be easily replicated by using our spectrum settings, then using a par meter to set intensity :)
Wonder what G6 will look like :D
What is the schedule intensity set to?
Schedule intensity was set to 100%
Just set mine up an hour ago.
@Walter White I love it. I am not running 100% all channels. I tried but my euplyllia seemed washed out in color. I went with the LPS/Soft template to bring out the colors. It is on a Nuvo 40 and upgrading from a G4 XR15. Colors were already there from previous gen. I went for the full tank coverage look though on my 2ft tank so I dont have to worry about lps/softy placement anymore. No hotspots with par meter mounted with the rms mount. People will argue why not just get another G4 XR15 but another one of those with the reefbrites, diffuser and rms mount was close to the same price as a XR30 gen 5.
I dont have the disco ball effect like I did before adding the diffuser of the G4 so shimmer is great IMO out of the box. Visually, my daytime lights look the same but during the ramp down, My corals definitely pop more than the G4. The florescence is nuts.
Mine are coming 3/2/2020 and i can hardly stand it lol
Redsea 160s or the G5 radions , can't make up my mind , whats your thoughts Randy
What’s the difference between intensity vs schedule intensity?
Schedule intensity is the overall intensity of all of the points on the schedule. Point intensity is the intensity of the individual point you're setting. We usually set schedule intensity to 100% and adjust point intensity as needed (like we did in this video)
Why not parallel?
Where is Thomas I thought he was going on BRS Tv as well
He's currently working on a few videos for us. Look for his first video to be published within the next couple of weeks. It takes a little time to put these videos together :)
Omg just setting 2 up over a 4ft the instructions are garbage using app so complicated I had one light with a different clock time too the other took me hours to sus it out it was 8 hrs different to other I can only guess they are made in us and the time clock is set to us time when I added the lights one must not have corrected clock to UK I think that's why you need location turned on to set clock to your place in world anyway went into settings in app manage to factory set now they are in sync and I now have 8 user templates and I went bed and slept like a log😃
Guys, do a video on the new Radion....
What do you think this is?
Why do you reupload the same video over again?
mmaadd09 this one is the one with all the corrections. They messed up big in the first video.
There were some data points to correct. Unfortunately, since we were testing a pre-released light, the AB+ settings weren't quite equal to what you, the end user, will receive. In the spirit of presenting the most accurate info, we decided to take the old video down, retest, and completely re-shoot.
Only way ill get to have this is if its stolen for the low low lol
The main advantage of getting a light as pricey and hyped as this is that you’ll have every premium reefer channel on TH-cam forensically examining every possible aspect of its performance and construction for you. Who needs a PAR meter?
ps: on a totally unrelated note please review the Lumini Asta 20😆
haha. Dont think that will happen, thats a cool light though and real cheap but so many reviews about it overheating then breaking!
So basically what you are trying to duplicate or achieve is the lighting effect of a $300 4 and 6 bulb t5 HO light fixture with ATI blue plus bulbs by using $3500+ of led lighting!!? Why would any person I. Their right mind buy 3 x $1200 lights and then run them at 35% 😳🙄 I love what you guys are doing but you've gone off you rocker. That is absolutely absurd..
If a T5 fixture works for your setup, I wouldn't suggest changing it. LEDs have grown in popularity due to the fact that they can be adjusted to fit a wide variety of tank shapes, sizes, and dimensions, so there is a time and a place for just about all light fixture types. Of course, there is always going to be a personal balance between budget/features/wants/needs.
Just wanted people to know that you shouldn’t waste your money on these lights. The price does not mean it is good quality. I bought an xr30 gen 5 pro from ecotech and it was broken straight out of the box and they wouldn’t replace the unit for me. Their customer service is absolutely atrocious. These people are money hungry and don’t care for their customers one bit
Everything is getting more expensive in this hobby every year. Yea I know, if you can't afford this hobby get out. That's not the point. Corals are really getting expensive,especially if it's someone's brand name on it.
The last four generations of this light has cost the same. I get your point that it's very expensive, but it's not exactly increasing every year.
Yeah I get your point too - but they are the same price and higher watts.
More than that I think this LED is designed to kill the hybrid. So now instead of getting the T5 Hybrid with a Radion you only need the Radion. I mean look at the spread and the PAR and tell me if a T5 Hybrid adds much value? I also don't think the XR30 is the hobbyist light - I think that's the XR15 and I can't wait to see those numbers. I think we'll see on a 4 foot mixed reef we'll be growing acros at the top with 2 x XR15s. They may have to add an extra one as the frags become colonies but, assuming we see those results, many will say they are the best value lights in the hobby.
Looks like they copied the zettlight Q Maven design.
Literally nobody, nobody at all, has ever heard of that light, ever, ever.
More of a ripoff too. More lights out in the market now that do the same exact thing the same exact results, and the same exact spectrum, for a cheaper price. Honestly, ecotech is like apple of the reefing world, a premium price for a product that does the same exact thing as every other thing in the market, and in some instances, less than others in the market. Save your money, buy a different light.
eegernades other lights have Mobius? 🤔
@@devinvenegas8037 lmao.. so having Mobius is enough reason to go spend $800 plus for some lights? Have it my friends🤣🤣
Bryant Carr I guess people who have enough discretionary income can decide. Personally, I think a manufacturer like EcoTech is better than Chinese black boxes. People forget about customer service, ecosystem, etc.
As long as people are allowed to have different opinions and that people will earn more money than others, then there will always be premium priced products.
If you don't like them, or can't afford them, then don't buy them, but stop being all high and mighty, pretending like everyone agrees with you.
@@devinvenegas8037 I guess you're missing my point.. it's not about if you can afford the lights or not. It's more about the end results, can these lights grow corals.. I know a lot of people who has black boxes (Chinese boxes) that produce very nice looking corals.. I'm not here to change your mind, if you would like to go out an buy these lights, by all means have at it! These lights are not for me.. I refuse to go out and buy $800 plus lights every few years because ecotech states you get 20% better spread everytime new lights come out..
Hey is the par level taken at the bottom of the tank? And running at 100% intensity? How deep is the tank?
Depends on what area of the video you're referring to. For example, if you go to the 14:52 minute mark, you'll see par readings for depths of 6", 12", and 18" below the water surface. The intensity at that particular spot in the video was set to 35%.