Radion Gen 6 Pro & Blue Hands on & Comparison
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They released new lighting too soon. They could have put a little more time into it and really put out something new.
Same price or cheaper to mfg and but price increase per unit
Thanks Jake for the deep dive on the G6 i watch most of the youtube channels. This review has been the best one hands down looking forward for the second part…👍
Appreciate the deepdive and looking forward to getting some more info on ppfd in a real life setting as well as a visual review of corals under the lights-Great work!
Thank you Jake for this comparison. Good work.
The G6 now has the same UV LED package as the AI Prime 16HD and 32HD. Different binning though. Concerned about melting issues.
Looking forward to seeing the difference over a tank.
Awesome video, Jake.
I love the fact that there is an upgrade path. Getting the upgrade kit will allow me to extend the life of my existing lights while getting the benefits of the new features. Many are not seeing this one key advantage. The LEDs are the main component that wear over time. This helps solve that issue as well.
for sure but depending on the price if it will be worth it . I tend to sell my light every 1-2 years and avoid the wear .
Cool to see the new led differences. Keep up the great vids
Thanks for the tear down, I like the new G6 Blue deletion of the cyan, lime in favor for the warm white. Also the build quality of ETM stuff is so good- the apple of aquarium products. I think I am going to upgrade my fixtures down there road.
Cool video can’t wait to see the “over the tank” comparison
Thanks for all the information .. this really help anyone to choose radion 👍👍👍
I'll be sticking w/my G5s until the LEDs burn out, then perhaps the upgrade kit. Good time to pick some G5s up now that everybody on R2R is unloading them for the latest thing, or get a new G5 at a discount. Pretty sure the corals aren't going to notice the difference as long as they're getting enough par and spread. But hey, this is for the Reefer anyway!
I didnt think it got better than a g5 but it looks like they did it. I also applaud more warm whites.
At the surface it didn't seem like they changed much but you can tell when you put them side by side with the different amounts of leds and patterns. Not something I would shell out a few extra hundred per light to upgrade to if I had a g5 but definitely cool.
Waiting for comparison on the tank and some coral color show off!!
Great job Jake
So introducing the Radion: G6... the G5 edition with an ever so slightly different color palette
Did any of you watch when BRS did the drop at 11:00 at night, I think personally think the spread is worth choosing a G6 over a G5 alone, not to mention the different spectrum.
I initally had negative opinions about this new release, but it really points out the poor LED layout of the G5. That said, makes me even more reluctant to spend money on either G5 or G6. ATi's Straton shouldn't have much to worry about.
The upside about all these different version upgrades is you can always rely on a segment of the hobby population to be the apex tech hoarders aka they always need the latest because they perceive it to be better. Now this population of people will usually allow you to get used gear, there's always some who thinks they should get a premium and barely have a discount at all but if you hold firm you'll find getting gear for 50% off.
Great video by the way!
3:21 ~ 6:55 which one is G5 and which one is G6?
Still not water proof and it has a fan, how last year! Making the upgradable is great though.
and will there be a new hydra? thank you! Awesome vídeo!
Good to see lord Ganesha picture on your wall 🥰
I would be willing to pay more if they take out the cooling fans for a larger heat sink.
6:01 Jake said it's fifth generation Radion, but caption said it's Radion G6.. which one is correct? too confusing
The caption is the correction
I like it but dang that upgrade cost for anyone with the xr30 lights is pretty steep!
I have to ask. Why is there suddenly a gen 6? Gen 5 isn’t very old at all..
Because buy you consumer BUY....No bs that's why
Great video guys! Jake, should we call you the Stevie Wonder of reefing?😝
Sorry, Just don't see the big differences in this next Gen compared to the Gen 5. Spectrum testing side by side may reveal a slight difference, but the true and definitive test would be coral growth. Side by side coral growth testing in identical parameters. But even that would most likely be splitting hairs.
i am not sure BRS willing to do it haha. Since brs, ecotech, ai, neptune all under one big roof now. But i am quite keen to try and buy the pro to blue upgrade from g5 to g6.
@@lolNololshittalk In your honest opinion, what value is in the G6 that would make you "upgrade" to it? I'm not seeing it personally.
@@flippersreef I'm liking that there's more and better UVs, Violets, bluer blues and royal blues, some actual warm whites in the G6 blue
@@ReefBuildersVideo Jake, there is a bit of talk lately that LED UV's in that 385 nm don't produce true usable UV at depth in a aquarium. Many question if UV is even needed, while some like Paletta speculate that the lack of it maybe the reason that RTN and STN happens. I personally have never seen any studies that support UV is needed for coral growth/health.
@@flippersreefI am currently running two pros, but wanna try the blue. As most of my friends all use blue. If i am big fan of pro i wont be brother to upgrade from 5 pro to 6 pro lol. Hope you understand what i meant!
I know that ecotech is pushing the improved spread of the new lenses, but if you already are using the radion diffuser on the G5, will the new lenses of the G6 make any difference when using a diffuser?
Do uv leds actually produce uva and uvb?
395nm is still within uva spectrum
Hi Jake have you been able to try the led reef flare pro?
Great Video Reef Builders. These deep dives are exactly what the online community needs.
I'm gona nerd out an make a constructive argument ( I hope), as you're doing a follow up: I've heavily question these being an actual "next generation" light. Mostly because EcoTech has NOT made a convincing argument showing it. Reading between the lines of there release; these are more like "Gen 5 Actinic" & "Gen 5 Warm white"...I'm not questioning their ability to grow corals and the argument is exclusive to comparing the 5 & 6's in a head-to-head. Mostly because the Gen 5's are fantastic, so if the Gen 6 is only "as good" as the 5's: they will certainly grow corals. And we know the lens is better.
However, the LED data available to the public shows this to be more of a spectrum shift, rather than a "next generation". Especially with the Blue's where they swapped out photosynthetically active spectrum's in the Gen 5 to include more biofluorescent spectrums in the Gen 6. It will excite more fluorescent pigments (which is the claim they made in marketing), but this trade comes at an arguable and likely cut to photosynthesis. (Which really needs to be tested, it's self admittedly speculation at this point based on a lack a information)
Looking from the outside. The Gen 6 Pro might be a marginal increase for the sake of the corals. But, the Gen 6 Blue looks to be more of an esthetic upgrade which make the corals glow to our eyes; more than something for coral health.
The Len's however are a true upgrade based off the data and marketing. The lens is convincingly "next gen"... but is the rest of this thing?
Again, I'm not questioning the quality of these. They are awesome. But, I am questioning the marketing.
Even with that, I'm probably still going to buy Gen 6's over the next year as I was planning on going from XR15's up to XR30's, so why not get the "next gen" while I'm at it.
The gen5 are not great I have them,very disappointed,even less than the g4,the g4 was better check the real data and not the marketing,check the forum reef too reef
@@tomg5405 the increase in light output from the G4 to the G5 is incomparable
@@ReefBuildersVideo the spectrum is more bad, the power also, the color Pop also, Disco ball effect without diffusors...just a Widder spread
@@tomg5405 I respect your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I've owned both the G5 XR15 Pro & Blue, both exceeded my personal expectations.
I will say, when a company values a fixture at $450 or $900+, that commands a high level of expectations hard to meet. And that price is hard to justify for many.
But my Gen 5's have performed admirably. No, the argument I'm making is a technical one. We know the majority of photosynthetic pigments loose sensitivity below 450nm.
Generally speaking, the 2 primary photosynthetic pigments and 2 accessory pigments in dinoflagates (including zooxanthellae) do not show a photosensitivity below 450nm when they were scrutinized under lab experiments. That information in the basis for my thought process.
Actinic's are a beautiful light to many. And if a buyers is concern with esthetics, an Actinic range is a selling point.
But, their is little evidence suggesting Actinic drives photosynthesis; so if a buyers is concern with coral health, then including diodes with a range of 350-450nm is a questionable choice compared to the other opinions available.
That's a distinction consumers should be aware of.
@@dusk1947 maybe you not have a better light before, sorry I can't be happy with a light that is more bad than the model befor and than other light I have before, with marketing the make and the price I spend for it. You can also be happy with black boxes it will also growth corals, but for the price and the claims they made my expectations are higher than cheap lights.
? Jake can you please let us know what the spread is on these lights
I'm hearing rumors of four feet but can't confirm. I'd just like to know how many I will need for my tank.
Is the lens gonna burn like the Ai Prime and Hydra lenses because of the polymerisation of the lens from the same led UV???
Jake,
Where does the Instant Ocean print/poster on the wall behind you come from? That thing is stylin!
That’s an actual plastic bag of IO from the late 80s/ early 90s
@@ReefBuildersVideo What a shame, I'd love to have one on the wall by my tank. Was it from your museum of old reefing things, or is there somewhere you can buy one of these?
I’m not sure if I wanna go with one of these or the Sky. I heard you mention a while back when you reviewed the sky, that it had a nice violet wavelength spectrum that I really like. Thanks for the great content Jake.
Two of the XR15 in either G5 or G6 will run circles around the SKY, not even a question
😎👍👌
@@ReefBuildersVideo And it doesn't put out the same spectrum as and industrial shop lamp... lol
They want you to think it's the diodes that progress in tech when in actuality it's the LED Drivers
Are the G5 and G6 close enough that if you combined G5 and G6 of the same type on the same tank it would look ok?
Hi is there a way I can directly speak to you?
he is already dead :(
48 ×24 ×24 mix tank sps and lps so how much light requirement xr15 and xr30 gen 6 also suggest me pro ya blue
Greetings! Tell me, for an aquarium with dimensions of 120 cm x 70 cm x 55 cm (height), which Radions are better to hang? 6 pieces 15 or 4 pieces 30?
That’s a way better version, that’s what the g 5 should have been like lol. I don’t use the colors they got rid of and I’d love to have warm white during peak day hours.
Mr jake adams still waiting for the tile fish videos
misprint red 430?
Wonder if you can just swap out the lenses and not the LEDs and if that gives an upgrade at all
no sir
@@ReefBuildersVideo shame, it does seem that the 50% of the upgrade is in the lenses :)
Rebadged under sold gen 5, and the blue leds never match as i told you before, some are green hue some are blue, not good from a high end manufacturer
Do you know when the $200 upgrade path will be available for us g5 owners?
Most sites I've seen are taking preorders for a June 1st release date.
This one was to fix the G5 Blue. Nothing wrong with the G5 Pro.
There's some truth to your comment
I've currently got a G3 pro with wide angle lenses (soon to be swapped with a diffuser, they are very hard to find in the UK now) over a 60g cube full of SPS frags. In a million years I can't afford an xr30 g6, do you think a G6 xr15 would still be an upgrade considering the huge improvement in spread?
Thanks
Unequivocally yes, a new XR15 will stomp a gen 3 XR30, especially a well used one
@@ReefBuildersVideo I guess I better get saving then 👍
Went and bought a blue xr15 g6, you were correct :)
Jake which xr would you go with for a tank 36in + 24 inch. 30 0r 15. lps sps and some softies. thanks in advance
XR15
Thanks for your reply.
par is par... what could they do besides gimmicks. they should perhaps develop a gen6 noob at a noob price range
Would this be overkill for a biocube 32?
Yes God save your money and just enjoy the hobby....even if you buy all luxury you still will have problems...better to save $
Hype 🚂
You could do an XR15 but the AI Prime is probably a better match for a BC32
Meanwhile more and more German Lights are passive cooled, Aluminium instead of cheap plastic and are water Proof 😄 keep your radions lol
This feels like a new iPhone add...no one can truly tell a difference from last year's model to the next....buy consumers BUY
If anyone trys to knock me over a few more led nodes the jokes on you my loyal consumer BUY CONSUME REPEAT
So many hands in the cookie jar i expect new lights every year with minor improvements and lets be honest how fast can coral really grow im sure they have to have a cut off. "Make this hobby great again".