Rachmaninov 3rd concerto - 10 famous pianists play the ossia cadenza

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  • Rachmaninov wrote two different cadenza at the end of his first movement : the regular one, and another one called "ossia", longer and more difficult than the first one. Here, among about 50 versions tested, I selected 10 pianists (names below, chronological order) who play the ossia cadenza.
    0:07 Van Cliburn
    Moscow - 1958 - Moscow SO - Kirill Kondrashin
    2:53 Cyprien Katsaris
    French TV - 1980 - ? - Ohan Durian
    5:36 Arcadi Volodos
    Braunschweig - 1999 - Israël PO - Zubin Mehta
    8:15 Olga Kern
    Fort Worth, US - 2001 - Fort Worth SO - James Conlon
    11:09 Yefim Bronfman
    Tokyo - 2004 - Wiener PO - Valery Gergiev
    13:48 Lang Lang
    ? - 2005 - ? - Charles Dutoit
    16:42 HJ Lim
    Barcelona - 2014 - Barcelona SO - Pablo Gonzales
    19:17 Natasha Paremski
    Bergen - 2015 - Bergen SO - Andrew Litton
    22:14 Alexander Gavrylyuk
    London - 2017 - BBC Scottish SO - Thomas Dausgaard
    25:16 Seongjin Cho
    Moscow - 2011 - ? - Alexander Dmitriev

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  • @zestofpiano3509
    @zestofpiano3509  3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Details (timestamps, year, conductor, Orchestra,...) in the description of video.
    Similar video with the regular cadenza : th-cam.com/video/2f0VXVH_hnk/w-d-xo.html

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  • @stephenkristan853
    @stephenkristan853 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    One of the most cataclysmic, terrifying passages in the entire piano literature. I love it! Who cares if it's "too much" for the movement! I'm always let down when performers opt for the standard cadenza. A little excess once in a while ain't a bad thing.

    • @trustedtarget7534
      @trustedtarget7534 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I totally agree. One must grow fangs when approaching this cadenza.

    • @kevinroylancephotography9437
      @kevinroylancephotography9437 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ossia Cadenza is the point of the 1st movement. It's the contrast to that absolutely beautiful part that follows.

    • @doandadrestarahma5290
      @doandadrestarahma5290 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's Rachmaninoff! The perfect chance to be extra

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The cadenza of the Prokofiev 2nd is both more challenging and terrifying. A section of pure vehemence.

    • @dka5631
      @dka5631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you play the standard cadenza like Argerich it is by no means easier nor boring. The build up to the D major chords becomes much more logical. but i also like big fat chords... conflict!
      source: i've played both

  • @stevenvinson1615
    @stevenvinson1615 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Volodos is just wild. There is nobody that posseses the power he has. It's crushing.

    • @stevenvinson1615
      @stevenvinson1615 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And Bronfman. He still pours it out, but he maintains the rhythmic integrity like nobody else.

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw Tzimon Barto play this live. I swear the piano moved a bit under the weight of his playing. His chords in the ossia were like cast bronze. Big fellow with huge hands. I also saw Volodos play this in concert, and both his power and virtuosity were not on the scale of Tzimon Barto.

    • @EttorealbertoGelli-vr6sz
      @EttorealbertoGelli-vr6sz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Volodos Is a giant but 1 only SCHUBERT Impromptus Is more than all the works of Rachmaninov

  • @Sathrandur
    @Sathrandur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    For all who may not know:
    Rachmaninov composed the ossia cadenza first, but later wrote the standard cadenza as he felt that what became the ossia cadenza created too much of a climax that he thought architecturally less desirable in the first movement. Nonetheless, he must not have minded too much as he did leave it as an ossia.

    • @itamarbar9580
      @itamarbar9580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Hmm, interesting! This ossia cadenza shows what Rachmaninoff is best at: climaxing.

    • @99wntr
      @99wntr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ve also heard he felt it may have been to difficult to play on a regular basis and created the standard cadenza to play when he had off nights during touring?

    • @ythanzhang
      @ythanzhang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@99wntr I guess that's a benefit of being your own composer. If you don't feel like it, you could just change the piece, and no one can really say anything about it.

    • @lczq6737
      @lczq6737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@99wntr Well maybe, it is also known that he made several cuts that performers can take to their discretion. I believe it was to make it easier to play as well

    • @harbinguy1
      @harbinguy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do all of them play slightly different versions?

  • @jacquesprevert1902
    @jacquesprevert1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Bronfman. Simply awesome

    • @katbullar
      @katbullar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I agree... Bronfman has something very special...

    • @makaan699
      @makaan699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes, his whole performance... He played this a lot of times and probably has consistently the best Rach 3 in the game.

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bronfman is possibly the greatest living pianist. While he gets recognition, it's not as much as he deserves

    • @pamelaweaver9983
      @pamelaweaver9983 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hands down, Bronfman. Had the great fortune of attending 3 of his concerts. Twice for the Rach 3 and once for the Rach 2.

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw Bronfman play this with the Vancouver Symphony in the early 90's. A big bear of a pianist who plays with crushing power.

  • @streamspring6814
    @streamspring6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    0:07 Van Cliburn
    2:53 Cyprien Katsaris
    5:36 Arcadi Volodos
    8:14 Olga Kern
    11:08 Yefim Bronfman
    13:46 Lang Lang
    16:41 HJ Lim
    19:17 Natasha Paremski
    22:14 Alexandre Gavrylyuk
    25:15 Seongjin Cho

    • @judynelson5038
      @judynelson5038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lang Lang nailed it. Cliburn was off.

    • @mr2loser
      @mr2loser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to open a debate about definitions or semantics, but I thought the title was "famous pianists"? Not sure half of this list are famous. Anyway, great complication. Thanks for putting it together!

    • @birgirkarl
      @birgirkarl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@mr2loser If you only go by fame in art, you're in trouble.

    • @mr2loser
      @mr2loser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@birgirkarl Check the title of the video. I'm merely commenting on that. Not artistry. Cheers!

    • @charlesbluett8195
      @charlesbluett8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mr2loser I haven't heard of Lim or Paremski before, but the others certainly are or were all famous pianists

  • @ThatWasLoud
    @ThatWasLoud ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Time to add Yunchan Lim to this compilation

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yunchan Lim colorless cold piano sound! This student Yunchan Lim should study next 6 years with a goog teacher! The best Rach no 3 really Horowitz in 1930! Evgeny Mogilevsky in 1965! Vladimir Ashkenazy! Marta Argerich Andrei Gavrilov in 1978! Natalia Trull in 1989! Yunchan Lim will be next Zimerman or Kissin boring with cold colorless sound! And crazy people will claiming Zimerman Kissin Yunchan Lim the Greatest!

    • @vlastimil-furst-gc
      @vlastimil-furst-gc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RaineriHakkarainen From the newer performances, you kinda left out Arcadi Volodos, he's actually in the video.
      Anyway, yeah. It's quite a difference if you put any passion it it. I could hear it from Olga Kern, Alexander Gavrylyuk, Sengjin Cho or Van Cliburn, but not as much from the others in this video. A largely Slavic lineup, but for instance, Natasha Paremski didn't make it to my list.

    • @AhbibHaald
      @AhbibHaald 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RaineriHakkarainen what kind of mental illness do you have to call kissin cold? Just because he isn't using annoyingly excessive rubato, he is cold?

    • @orizoref
      @orizoref หลายเดือนก่อน

      True! He plays the regular cadenza though

    • @alessandropelizzoli6613
      @alessandropelizzoli6613 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree completely with Raineri...

  • @mr2loser
    @mr2loser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    14:36. "Oh crap I just broke the fourth wall!"

    • @EASYTIGER10
      @EASYTIGER10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its a bit unsettling. Here I am in my underwear listening to TH-cam when Lang Lang slowly turns and looks right at me.....

    • @chickeringfoundation1866
      @chickeringfoundation1866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EASYTIGER10 Perfect!

    • @dolalafontaine
      @dolalafontaine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an absolute clown.

  • @Chima4289
    @Chima4289 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have listen to many renditions of this famous Ossia, but was stunned by Cyprien Katsaris. Actually, never heard of him… Bravo!!!!

    • @gixelz
      @gixelz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      never heard of katsaris after listening to a bunch of classical? what has youtube done to you

  • @evifnoskcaj
    @evifnoskcaj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Olga Kern and Arcadi Volodos hold nothing back and I love that. This passage requires passion, a willingness to absolutely crush the piano and yet have these beautiful and soaring melody lines, and have huge dynamic range. Rachmaninoff also demands for sweeping rubato, which was all over his playing and interpretations as well, so you can't simply blow through this.
    Of these selections, I agree with the crowd on this one: Yefim Bronfman absolutely crushed it. Wondeful sense of style, great phrasing, good dynamic range and control, excellent clarify for such a rich and chordal section, and wonderful passion, not some cartoonish animation like the person that followed. 💯😂❤

    • @evifnoskcaj
      @evifnoskcaj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seongjin Cho deserves very high praise as well, especially under the gaze of Tchaikovsky. 😂 He played very well in all aspects of the piece. I hope he won that Tchaikovsky comp. Oh...3rd prize? Well, a performance like that is well deserving of a high place!

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I quite liked the clarity of Seongjin Cho

    • @FrostDirt
      @FrostDirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And he was only 17 (2011 in the video) at the time, I think he got better. Check out his 2018 recording of Rach 3.

    • @garysandiego
      @garysandiego 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He resolves very well to the theme.

    • @yimeizi2648
      @yimeizi2648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought his bass line was not clear at all

    • @barney6888
      @barney6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@yimeizi2648 no you didnt

  • @ganchinho
    @ganchinho ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bronfman immediate goosebumps, sublime

  • @temorxavi5400
    @temorxavi5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Everybody is really good at palying the cadenza but Bronfman each every note is so clear and neat you can hear them all

    • @equilibrio823
      @equilibrio823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only truth I have read in these comments !

    • @MattSmith-il4tc
      @MattSmith-il4tc ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not everybody. HJ Lim absolutely butchers it. She misses more notes than she hits... I don't know how that performance is even in this video. It's unlistenable.

  • @auzziePRlDE
    @auzziePRlDE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I don't know how many times I have watched Olga Kern play the whole piece. Truly brilliant.

  • @florianeichenberger7354
    @florianeichenberger7354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Is nobody going to mention Kissin? His version is sensational and underrated!

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly what I was thinking; although I wouldn't say he's underrated. I think people are fully aware of who he is. His cadenza with Ozawa is perhaps the most dynamic, nuanced and certainly flawless. He recorded it at age 21, I believe.

    • @partituravid
      @partituravid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES!!!

    • @fridagarbati5383
      @fridagarbati5383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Florian Eichenerger, I ask the same question. Kissin’s version is superb!

    • @user-wy7kx2to1v
      @user-wy7kx2to1v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes,yes,yes!!!

    • @Joshua_Hershensohn
      @Joshua_Hershensohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed even other brilliant interpretations were left out like Trifonov and Ashkenazy!

  • @billmarrufo
    @billmarrufo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Volodos hands down! Though Bronfman and Lang Lang are also top notch.

    • @vlastimil-furst-gc
      @vlastimil-furst-gc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Bronfman wasn't gentle enough in the passages where he should be. Lang Lang did quite well from this point of view, but I still appreciated the Eastern-Slavic pianists: Olga Kern and Alexander Gavrylyuk. The feeling was there, perhaps it resonates with a Slavic soul a bit more.

  • @PersnicketyRed
    @PersnicketyRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Van Cliburn is all I will ever need. My heart still holds this beautiful Texan, so close! 🥰

    • @jennfermackenzie-gray
      @jennfermackenzie-gray 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Van Cliburn is the best out of all these … in my opinion.

  • @LavaMLG
    @LavaMLG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Bronfman will always be my favorite

  • @PuPuSin
    @PuPuSin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Ciburn and Volodos is my fav , every notes shine with life forces.

    • @class87srule
      @class87srule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, Cliburn succeeds in lyricism and savagery in equal measure. Why he doesn't play the repeats at the climax is baffling

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Volodos is just something out of this world.

  • @robertjason6885
    @robertjason6885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Katsaris points out so much left hand detail. They are all just so wonderful.

  • @JOHNDOE-fr2jw
    @JOHNDOE-fr2jw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    CHO WAS AWESOME!!!

  • @iankemp1131
    @iankemp1131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Absolutely fascinating comparison. For me, this cadenza needs both dynamic and rhythmic variety, but also a sense of struggle when the main theme returns and in the final climax - not the pianist struggling to play it, but the music struggling to fight its way through. Some come closer to "my ideal" than others, perhaps Cho most of all marginally, but all of them brought something different and individual. In particular, despite sonic limitations, a great reminder of how fine Van Cliburn was before he gave up regular playing too early.

    • @spiritualatheist1
      @spiritualatheist1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have to agree with you about Cho. He has a controlled mastery, he sounds less like all the devils in Hades are after him and more like he's totally in control. There are recording problems with Cliburn and some of the others that makes them sound a bit blurred together. And I think Cho's piano was tuned a bit brighter. I like Evgeny Kissin better than any of these - playing the ossia does not seem to be a stretch for him. His piano is also brighter. On the other hand, if you're into Ponderous and Scary, as I am sometimes, go with Cliburn.

  • @tristanbelmont8348
    @tristanbelmont8348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Van Cliburn's performance is my favourite.

  • @jfpary7336
    @jfpary7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bronfman! Wow! Grandioso.

  • @JanetESmith-er8sk
    @JanetESmith-er8sk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That pause at the end of the Ossia sealed the deal! Heartbreakingly beautiful! Oh Maestro Van Cliburn it’s you!!

    • @oriolsolano3946
      @oriolsolano3946 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. The only one of them that gave deep expression to the closing of the phrase preceding the pause, and consequently to the pause too. Won by a narrow margin to Volodos

    • @saikalyan3966
      @saikalyan3966 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cliburn is out of the world, the coda of rach3 by him is also by far the best, feels like falling down a large bell tower's staircase

  • @user-cj7mt7oi2n
    @user-cj7mt7oi2n ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Самая лучшая каденция у Александра Малофеева. Юный восхитительный пианист! Как могли про него забыть?

    • @emilyhutjes
      @emilyhutjes ปีที่แล้ว

      Irina , Look up on YuTube the channel of " Richard" . He posted Rach. 3 by Alexander Malofeev in the USA. He is indeed the best. BRAVO. (Netherlands)

  • @waynerisman8257
    @waynerisman8257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rafael Orozco has the most dramatic inspirational version of the ossia cadenza in less than 2 minutes of unrestrained fury, a controlled madness, and a sense of inner rage.

  • @vinylisland6386
    @vinylisland6386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Volodos and Cliburn. Bronfman is also magnificent. Gavrilov's first recording with Fedoseyev had the most stupendous ossia cadenza I have ever heard.

  • @MicoAquinoComposer
    @MicoAquinoComposer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Katsaris's playing is breathtaking. Beautifully played.

  • @jinlee506
    @jinlee506 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bronfman. Nothing to add or subtract. The perfect one.

  • @MrPGOLIVEIRA
    @MrPGOLIVEIRA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Van Cliburn aos 23 anos, um fenômeno de talento.

  • @geuros
    @geuros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    In this list, Volodos and Bronfman share the #1 for me, Van Cliburn #3, Cho #4.

    • @billmarrufo
      @billmarrufo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, in the same order you mention!

    • @rr4tb4rtr46
      @rr4tb4rtr46 ปีที่แล้ว

      you have to try Lazer Berman

  • @perappelgren948
    @perappelgren948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Van Cliburn does astonishingly well!

  • @CuratorOfRealities
    @CuratorOfRealities 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've been hooked on this cadenza ever since I first listened to Vladimir Ashkenazy's Decca recordings as a teenager.

    • @botezmi
      @botezmi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...same here but with Lazar Berman-Claudio Abbado recording th-cam.com/video/jgjsBAmedw8/w-d-xo.html

  • @rmpelnilschen130
    @rmpelnilschen130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How long have I been looking for a video of that kind xD
    Thank you very much

  • @antoniovisioli4460
    @antoniovisioli4460 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grandi pianisti....Volodos immenso.

  • @chrisiu1369
    @chrisiu1369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    katsaris's voicing in 4:40 absolutely beautiful

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rachmaninoff has so many inner voices for a gifted interpreter to bring out.

    • @jfpary7336
      @jfpary7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!!

    • @InfiniteClouds
      @InfiniteClouds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad someone else noticed - best of the bunch for me.

    • @herobrine1847
      @herobrine1847 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He brought out the red on the edges of the video

  • @juhyunkim3438
    @juhyunkim3438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    감사합니다♡

  • @michaelowens5394
    @michaelowens5394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice work! I collect Rakh 3 recordings and half of these I've never heard of. My all-time favorite is Dimtris Sgouros' age 14 recording (which also took the ossia cadenza, and ossia everything). But Olga Kern's cadenza strikes me as even more musical than Sgouros'. She brought out things I've never noticed. I'll be checking out her whole recording. Thanks!!

    • @edwinwelch1393
      @edwinwelch1393 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you a link to this recording?

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edwinwelch1393 Just type in Olga Kern Rach 3 into the search bar.

  • @SuperTzukasa
    @SuperTzukasa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Bronfman’s one;)

  • @Gardis72
    @Gardis72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    And none of you commented on Alexander Gavrylyuk? I thought it was astonishing!

    • @GianfrancoCavallaro
      @GianfrancoCavallaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The best. For me.

    • @poetmale
      @poetmale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. Flesh, blood, and this third ingredient - spirit. Hope for mankind ❤️

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was amazing, although watching him I was just waiting for a stroke. He looked strained, although the music was astonishing.

    • @ercborg
      @ercborg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His version is on repeat all day long. He handles the tension the best. I can't listen to the others after hearing him. The others rush through the pieces without tension.

    • @alis1637
      @alis1637 ปีที่แล้ว

      Van cliburn doesn’t rush too much but I love gavryluk’s interpretation. Perfect balance of power, sensitivity and detail where required

  • @garysandiego
    @garysandiego 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m not going to pretend I know who is best. But Volodos is a beast! I was quite amazed. Bronfman was very good, smooth and balanced. I liked Cho too although I cannot pinpoint why. I like Lang Lang generally and I don’t go along with the haters at all but...I sure am glad he’s not doing the Bugs Bunny at the piano routine anymore. Maturity has its benefits.

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my parents and I watched (and pretty much drooled) in the mid-seventies near Butler in Indianapolis Concert with Cliburn; my dad shared how his mother attended all his concerts, and my mom shared her disappointment in my not being professional.

  • @jerryrowen1
    @jerryrowen1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRINGS LIFE TO MY BODY AND SOUL! ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅!!!!!!!

  • @davewalker9926
    @davewalker9926 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    omg, I love Natasha Paremski's interpretation! I love how she hits the low and high notes hard at the extreme ends of the range.

  • @Franz_Liszt_Korean
    @Franz_Liszt_Korean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great thumbnail

  • @i9avici7a5
    @i9avici7a5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Volodos causes me to water up. His emotions are so transparent...

  • @rainchen7846
    @rainchen7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The thumbnail with Lang Lang made my day lol

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's a circus act.

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fareshajjar1208 I'm really confused about why people hate Lang Lang, he's a really good pianist

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rainchen7846 He plays notes and makes faces. He does not make music.

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fareshajjar1208 at the end of the day everyone has different definition of what is "musical", it's just his way of expressing music

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@rainchen7846 cLang cLang ignores the intentions of the composer in many instances and changes notations in the score to suit his "interpretation." He seems to have little respect for the pieces as composed. Nuanced voicing is often replaced by percussive antics. Why do great pianists like Horowitz and Rubinstein seem so stiff and upright? It's because excessive movement like the childish flailing arms and legs of cLang cLang inevitably transmits to the fingers. There is no control in the jumping clown. He should wear a gold cape and play in Las Vegas with dancing girls. He is not a serious classical artist. He is a novelty act.

  • @borisjaulmes5773
    @borisjaulmes5773 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite interpretation of this sacred monster ofthe piano litterature is by Leif Ove Andsnes. Especially because he doesn't repeat the 66th measure (he knows how to play this fabulous cadenza without it being too much).
    Incredible playing by the way.
    Thank you.

  • @dlphcoracl9645
    @dlphcoracl9645 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cyprien Katsarisis and Arcadi Volodos are (for me) the clearcut winners here. This is magisterial playing.

  • @swanee9599
    @swanee9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    HJ Lim's playing of this cadenza is unworldly. Pure bold virtuosity.

    • @765lbsquat
      @765lbsquat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sloppy more like it. roast beef sloppy

    • @alis1637
      @alis1637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it’s probably the worst of this bunch

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's hard not to let the piano "win" -with most of these artists..still listnening.

  • @wonyang6052
    @wonyang6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video, thank you for making this.

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey, concert pianists, if I'm paying a couple hundred dollars for tickets and parking and whatever else to come to your concert, I expect to hear the ossia cadenza, okay? Don't be a wimp.

  • @tiamia7139
    @tiamia7139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Cliburn absolutely! Such power and passion. Brilliant!!

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    killin" it (the composer of every mensch) apologetically, thank you Alexander Gavrylyuk? I love you and your parents for giving you Leben; and Seongjin Cho, the composer (picture to your left) smiled on your effort!

  • @Marko4237
    @Marko4237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're all good in their own way. Personally, I prefer to not have any part of the cadenza inaudible or sped though just for showmanship. An example of my 'choice' recording would be Jean Yves Thibaudet w/ Ashkenazy conducting.
    Nice collection! Thanks for sharing

  • @marshall62020
    @marshall62020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Van Cliburn BRAVO!!!!

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isso é bem interessante para a escuta comparativa.

  • @user-yb7ie9nv6l
    @user-yb7ie9nv6l ปีที่แล้ว

    Все пианисты пытаются что-то выразить, в основном собственные эмоции и только Lang Lang рассказал в каденции историю автора. За эти 2 с небольшим минуты у меня перед глазами промелькнула вся история Рахманинова, как началась в России революция, как он уезжал в Америку и как он всю оставшуюся жизнь тосковал по родине. Lang Lang эту тоску прекрасно выразил в колокольном звоне, чего не сделал ни один другой исполнитель. Собственно, эта каденция в исполнении Lang Lang открыла мне "глаза" и на музыку Прокофьева, который мне стал понятен и близок после этого концерта Рахманинова. Lang Lang один из очень немногих исполнителей, которые представляют нам автора в каждом исполняемом им произведении, его интерпретации всегда указывают на какие-то вехи жизни автора, это слышится в его музыке. В каждом произведении у него есть особая точка зрения на произведение, он видит в нем то, чего другие не замечают. Возможно, кто-то начнет критиковать гримасы Lang Lang, его экспрессивность за роялем, для меня же это все неважно. Он ни на кого не похож и его легко узнать среди сотен других исполнителей, что и составляет его соврешенство, показывает его интеллект и глубокую эрудицию.

    • @alexguzz1405
      @alexguzz1405 ปีที่แล้ว

      Шланг-Шланг

    • @user-yb7ie9nv6l
      @user-yb7ie9nv6l ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexguzz1405 в твоем зеркале или на семейном портрете?

  • @sydneyscarlett4198
    @sydneyscarlett4198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Lang Lang gave me chills.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He definitely needs to be given a musical treatment

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He's a cruise ship pianist. The Liberace of the classical world. The most overrated pianist in history.

    • @lahouit
      @lahouit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fares Hajjar Thank you! Almost buffoonish.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fareshajjar1208 A cruise ship pianist for the Yellow Sea...

    • @jfpary7336
      @jfpary7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my humble opinion Lang is overdoing it...

  • @kikotecla
    @kikotecla 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bronfman and Volodos, both giants!

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greatest augmentation in musical history

  • @georgenorris2657
    @georgenorris2657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me definitely Brontman. lovely clean playing and he sustains the sense of line and good tone throughout. Olga Kern is good too. There is a strange edition alteration in the version played by Cliburn and Katsaris: the thrice repeated phrase near the end of the climax is cut down to just one and it really doesnt work this way. Also to make the dominant A bass note before the d minor fortissimo theme staccato sounds really odd.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is sad you have not putted the Matsuev interpretation. It was magnificent !

  • @dang5874
    @dang5874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol, all those people complaining about Lang Lang's exaggerated movements, hopefully you never get to see a jazz pianist play, a genre which Rachmaninoff greatly appreciated.

  • @GregLile
    @GregLile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm not a Lang Lang fanboy, but his was the only one I wanted to go back and hear again.

    • @eggizgud
      @eggizgud ปีที่แล้ว

      I like his pacing from the slow quiet start but then the climax didn't seem right. Too soon, too fast somehow... the story disappeared.

  • @undisclosedmusic4969
    @undisclosedmusic4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Say what you want about Lang but DAMN that was good

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So many dropped notes. No clarity. Shortcuts everywhere. The worst of the lot...

    • @Gardis72
      @Gardis72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Any pianist with those absurd facial expressions loses me....it detracts from the music....

    • @adrianchewygum
      @adrianchewygum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fareshajjar1208 I have extreme perfect pitch and I couldn't hear all pitches written on the complicated score. You must be a genius to catch the missing notes!

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adrianchewygum Perfect pitch would add no special ability to hear dropped notes (neither would "extreme perfect pitch"...whatever that is.) I am referencing many years of listening to cLang cLang perform, both love and recorded. My views are shared by thousands. His shortcomings have been widely discussed by critics. It is nothing new.

    • @adrianchewygum
      @adrianchewygum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fareshajjar1208 so you're saying "last time"... but based on this performance, you should not be biased...

  • @daniloberaldo570
    @daniloberaldo570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! For me, HJ Lim was the best!

  • @fgattorno
    @fgattorno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting work! congratulations!, I will include RAFAEL OROZCO, from my point of view the clearest and at the same time virtuosity Rachmaninoff Third. Enjoy it.

  • @kaleidoscopio5
    @kaleidoscopio5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bronfman is a beast 😄

  • @vedantthanki745
    @vedantthanki745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Valentina also played it very nice......

  • @mamakokonao
    @mamakokonao 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    カチャリスの演奏が圧倒的にすごい!まさにマジック!手の形がいいし、力を入れていないようでもfffがすごい。

  • @DerekLowePianist
    @DerekLowePianist ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lang Lang's expression is golden. Oh yes, including his facial expressions.

  • @shoshog4647
    @shoshog4647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer this over the other one

  • @dolalafontaine
    @dolalafontaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bronfman, Volodos, Cho

  • @selwyn-lloydmcpherson2814
    @selwyn-lloydmcpherson2814 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RIP every piano ever

  • @byfrax2371
    @byfrax2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    listening to how pianists play the ossia cadenza is one of the best ways to get a feeling for their character when interpreting

  • @StijnDefrancq
    @StijnDefrancq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thanks for this nice video!
    I prefer Bronfman and Lang Lang.
    Do you know the version played by Trifonov? For me the best ever.

  • @pranavmurali8022
    @pranavmurali8022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite was Natasha Paremski

  • @rigel48
    @rigel48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    For me the keyword of this cadenza is grandeur. No flashy technical displays with unsteady tempos but a constant majestic flow with a mastered virtuosity which leads to a grand and powerful climax.
    In this respect I find Van Cliburn and Bronfman the best and HJ LIm the least convincing.
    I would add that if this ossia cadenza taken alone is extremly impressive, I think that the regular cadenza suits far better the spirit of the concerto.

    • @joegoetz2024
      @joegoetz2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andre Watts did a hybrid cadenza...starts out with the regular one, then switches to the Ossia before the huge chords come in

    • @swanee9599
      @swanee9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have to disagree. I believe HJ Lim's performance was very controlled and perfectly captured the boldness of this concerto. Its exhilarating, fiery, and courageous - as the cadenza should be. I don't believe Rach's 3rd concerto is one to be played lightly. Perhaps you are not used to seeing female pianist display such assertiveness.

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@swanee9599 Martha Argerich has displayed plenty of assertiveness for much longer than HJ Lim.

    • @mlaux72
      @mlaux72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This why Sergei put this one in the "ossia" and not viceversa :)

  • @jacklindahl
    @jacklindahl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ok. Volodos for the sheer animal ferocity, Bronfman for the precision, and Lang Lang who played with all the schmaltz this piece deserves. And more.

  • @robertoperez8453
    @robertoperez8453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cliburn for me, they best!

  • @sergio6357
    @sergio6357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Van's huge hands

  • @efghabcd4126
    @efghabcd4126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    weissenberg is my most favorite.

  • @kikotecla
    @kikotecla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Volodos and Cliburn are the best, but Lang Lang is also incredible

  • @goatlps
    @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like #LangLang, in the studio, but when I listen to him play the rest of this live I'm fairly sure he makes up half the notes as he goes along.

  • @randomytguy7315
    @randomytguy7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    each one of them are amazing, but olga's cadenza just stroke me like a lighting bolt

    • @michaelwinegarden5443
      @michaelwinegarden5443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I highly recommend watching her entire concerto.
      Her interputtaion is what made me fall in love with Rach 3, and become my favorite piece of music of all times.
      here is a link to her full performence:th-cam.com/video/9AmxZnlRa6Q/w-d-xo.html

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her cadenza is demonic, as if she was possessed by the spirit of the music itself. I wish there was a proper recording of this performance on a CD, it deserves it.

  • @classicalclinician
    @classicalclinician 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First, thanks for putting this together! Great comparison. However, my favourite is not included. Daniil Trifonov with Sir Simon Rattle, New Year's Eve 2016 Concert of Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. And all of Trifonovs energy goes into the music. Not like Lang Lang here, who spends a lot for showmanship and effect (although I think he is a very good player despite this, but best to listen to him without a picture).

    • @OdedeCologne
      @OdedeCologne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just looked this up as I really like Trifonov ... the cadenza is a bit too careful, but the flute / oboe / horn soli afterwards (Pahud, etc) are exquisite.

  • @rjlblg
    @rjlblg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did you put Lang Lang? Strange. Why didn’t you put Sokolov, Malofeev, Lugansky, Argerich, Yuja Wang, Trifonov, Buniatishvili, Shishkin????

  • @prm1701
    @prm1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rafael Orozco is the best at this in my opinion. He should definitely have been on this list.

    • @eduardovera8162
      @eduardovera8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      De acuerdo contigo

    • @dolalafontaine
      @dolalafontaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agreed. Nobody hits all parts as solidly as he does. At least the version I’ve heard.

    • @dolalafontaine
      @dolalafontaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually him and Bronfman. Top two faves forever.

  • @partituravid
    @partituravid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    No Kissin!?!? For me, Gavrylyuk blows away everyone else - the transitions between sections are carefully thought out and paced. The harmonic outlines and areas are clear, with delineation of the chords'relationships, progressions and significance. The melodic line is sustained by de-emphasizing chords that, while massive, support the melody. Everyone else's massive chords all have equal importance.
    This is impressive for the beautiful transitions as well as architecturally, tonally, musically, conceptually. With beauty AND strength - actual music- the only place most of these people think about dynamics is the shift to C minor - too little too late. Gavrylyuk is dynamically shaping all the time so there are arcs.
    I think the conductor for Olga Kern might be James Conlon?

    • @alis1637
      @alis1637 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, but keep in mind he has the benefit of a more modern sound recording system

  • @ondinehd6889
    @ondinehd6889 ปีที่แล้ว

    Favorites in this video: Van Cliburn, Volodos, Bronfman, Paremski, Seonglin Cho!

  • @PianoBangBang
    @PianoBangBang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clicked for the thumbnail, stayed for the music

  • @chrisknowles7889
    @chrisknowles7889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yefim Bronfman. That is all

  • @emilyhutjes
    @emilyhutjes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alexander Malofeev, you genius, where were you ?? 😊🌷🌷🌷 (Amsterdam N.L. )

  • @goatlps
    @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did the whole video. My favourite is 8:15 #OlgaKern. I like her hair and dress - she then proceeds to play the cadenza like she wants to kill you with it. 22:14 #Gavrylyuk is also extremely aggressive, and yet very accurate and great.
    16:41 #HJLim sounds like a saloon bar pianist, playing whilst cowboys a fighting.

  • @andre.vaz.pereira
    @andre.vaz.pereira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! If you want to do a round two of the ossia cadenza i suggest Artur Pizarro (Leeds Competition winning performance), Grygory Sokolov, Rafael Orozco, Denis Matsuev and Yeol Eum Son. Loved the version of Yefim Bronfman (best for me), Cliburn, Volodos, Gavrylyuk, Katsaris, Olga Kern and Seongjin Cho.

    • @zestofpiano3509
      @zestofpiano3509  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, very good propositions, usually I don't like Matsuev

    • @andre.vaz.pereira
      @andre.vaz.pereira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zestofpiano3509 Me neither... But the Rach 3 cadenza is very good!! Orozco video recording is miles away from the studio recording but he still nails the cadenza!! Fedorova, Trifonov and Buniatishvli recent live performances are also very good.

    • @dang5874
      @dang5874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sokolov's Rach 3 is one of my favorites along with Horowitz's, they are so powerful making the lowest and darkest notes of the piano shine

    • @andre.vaz.pereira
      @andre.vaz.pereira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also consider Eliso Virsaladze in 1989 live concert. It's on youtube too.

  • @andream.464
    @andream.464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No Orozco? That’s like a must have in these compilations!

    • @OhioTropics
      @OhioTropics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re missing Argerich 😱

    • @pandude53
      @pandude53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OhioTropics She plays the original cadenza not this ossia one.

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot the very best - Ashkenazy.