Rachmaninov Concerto 3 - 10 famous pianists playing the regular cadenza

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  • @zestofpiano3509
    @zestofpiano3509  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Details (timestamps, year, conductor, Orchestra...) in the description.
    Similar video with the ossia cadenza : th-cam.com/video/2AGQ3lE6J-g/w-d-xo.html

  • @nic5833
    @nic5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    All these masters are awesome, genius without a doubt... Horowitz makes it look easy... and the perfection of Martha and Yuja are outstanding, but all the masters are absolutely amazing!

  • @zcb3591
    @zcb3591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I really find the Argerich interpretation fascinating - and the most satisfying. I enjoy the unimpeded fluidity that grows in intensity - until the rapid chordal descent that really just feels momentous. And I love the percussiveness she brings out of the instrument in the last 1/4 of the Cadenza .

    • @willemboone7912
      @willemboone7912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are absolutely right, but the film is terrible: you hardly see her hands, but a sweating Chailly!!!!Argggggghhhhhhhhh, that's not what I want to see in this cadenza!

    • @Wkkbooks
      @Wkkbooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hair-raising!

  • @aerohydra3849
    @aerohydra3849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    For me Argerich and Yuja Wang are the best, Yuja shows stark contrast between the extremely light and playful first part of the theme (scherzo) with the ferocious and heavy climax at the very top. Meanwhile, Argerich has probably one of the most intense cadenza I've ever heard, like the piece and the devil is slowly possessing her hands :D.

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds somewhat feminist... actually, it is not a piece for women at all...

    • @martinforrester8249
      @martinforrester8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I much prefer Yuja Wang's gentler approach, more feminine.

  • @PianoBangBang
    @PianoBangBang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've never heard Hough's recording but am definitely intrigued by his cadenza!!

  • @highpeaksphil
    @highpeaksphil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Martha brilliant and still is even at nearly 80. Let’s not forget Stephen Hough he makes it look so easy . End of day they’re all brilliant

    • @FoxyJohn
      @FoxyJohn ปีที่แล้ว

      Bough is my fave here. So far. I’m up to his atm ha. Hold on….

  • @alirezaetezadi7469
    @alirezaetezadi7469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Horowitz was a close friend of Rachmaninov and they always met each other. Horowitz played many of Rachmaninov's composed pieces before him and the composer once had said that Horowitz had owned the piece.
    Having this fact in mind, by listening to his strong and powerful performance, you will be left mesmerized by the correctness and power of what he delivered at the piano. Stunning and powerful as usual.
    All these people are masters of their class, however when referring to Horowitz, it's not just a simple reference to any master, but to a genius. Remember that you're referring to the last Romantic.

    • @MattSmith-il4tc
      @MattSmith-il4tc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, Horowitz was great in Rachmaninov, but unfortunately, this particular performance of the cadenza isn't really that great. He misses 30% of the notes... I'd blame it on his age, but his recording with Ormandy and the NY Phil was done the same year and is WAY, WAY better. The Ormandy recording is probably a top 3 ever for the Rach 3.

    • @williambunter3311
      @williambunter3311 ปีที่แล้ว

      A R Etazadi Martha Argerich said in an interview that Horowitz was the best. She also highly regards Daniel Trifonov. For me it would be Argerich or Gilels.

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MattSmith-il4tc I agree, I wasn’t taken by his performance here. As you say a lot of missed notes and it seemed heavy and clumsy where Argerich’s was fluid and spirited.

    • @labienus9968
      @labienus9968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MattSmith-il4tc Horowitz was sublime in this when he was younger-but the Ormandy performance earlier that year was overall inferior to this-way, way better-not IMO

  • @Epinerf
    @Epinerf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Argerich and Yuja Wang shows that perfection can take multiple form

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Y. W. is nothing

    • @wotansings
      @wotansings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@fb7876 Y.W. is far more than you will ever be.

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wotansings Yawwwnnnnn.... you tiny little internet hero;-) Has your mom again given you access to the internet one time too much?

    • @wotansings
      @wotansings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@fb7876 my mom his given me education, something you're obviously missing

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wotansings Why? Education and taste or not strongly linked to each other. How do you know about my education?

  • @francoisrodewald9868
    @francoisrodewald9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love these little rubati Horowitz does, Weissenberg is just rushing through it

  • @sevenoranges
    @sevenoranges ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kocsis caught at the height of his powers! I love his swift versions of the concertos....going to go pull out my CDs and give them a listen. Been a while!

    • @kenimprov
      @kenimprov 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indeed, Zlotan Kocsis is perhaps the greatest performer of Rach 3 ever

  • @duggiefresh8170
    @duggiefresh8170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lugansky and probably Wang for me. The sentimental favorite is Horowitz, but he was way past his prime here.

  • @ronl7131
    @ronl7131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All supremely great. Rachmaninov is using the piano to tell a personal story here. There is, as usual, a great deal of nuance , rubato, voicing, and pedal effects so unique and personal in the Horowitz performance. If one compares and contrasts the different VH recordings of the massive Masterpiece, one can experience and learn a great deal about the sound world of Rachmaninov. Heart & Soul pianistic history with the VH versions. I enjoy Yuja’s takes on the Russian Master Composers. Thoughtful interpretations with highest precision, voicing, and passion. Very interesting to compare and contrast. The Rachmaninov 3 is a favorite of mine to listen to and experience.

  • @siyer4806
    @siyer4806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kocsis with his transcendental technique and musical insight shades them all.

  • @duwir5959
    @duwir5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There are all great, but I think Martha is on fire.

  • @lindasegerious9248
    @lindasegerious9248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn, Zoltan, you're on fire. That clarity!

  • @aiys21
    @aiys21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lilya Zilberstein is superb

    • @williambunter3311
      @williambunter3311 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, she certainly is, alys21, and she confidently plays at her own tempo at the climax.

  • @duartevader2709
    @duartevader2709 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the rubato and dynamics with Horowitz

  • @UnaMoscaEnLaPared
    @UnaMoscaEnLaPared 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ¡¡¡ZOLTAN KOCSIS!!!

  • @kaleidoscopio5
    @kaleidoscopio5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So glad you put Gelber's version. And I still don't get how Horowitz almost get a disaster in the middle of the cadenza and recovers.....

    • @Yue117
      @Yue117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He must have played it so many times over the decades, it's like faltering during a conversation you mess up some of the words but overall you still know everything you are trying to say and how you are trying to say it, i guess.

  • @FanatSAO
    @FanatSAO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Луганский! Один из лучших нынешних интерпретаторов Рахманинова.

  • @fortnitegod6987
    @fortnitegod6987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Martha Argerich’s interpretation is insanity compared to other pianists and it’s incredible. Like her hands are on fire. Easily my favourite interpretation of Rach 3

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, I have the suspicion that she only played it for actionistic reasons like "Look here, I can also play this hard piece." without ever having touched any other piece by Rachmaninoff... a bit strange...

    • @師太滅絕
      @師太滅絕 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Incredible - certainly. But certainly not insane.......
      (and it surprises me too.....when only listen to the cadenza, i actually prefer Lugansky more than Argerich......... Though Martha full concerto is certainly my most prefered version).

    • @IvanIV05
      @IvanIV05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Martha Argerich's is the first I ever heard of this concerto and is still my favourite.

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IvanIV05 Yes, this is human - the first time is often held as reference. To me it is the same with Pogorelich performance of Chopin's second sonata or the F major Prelude in Warsaw 1980.

    • @Yue117
      @Yue117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sometimes she really looks like a witch at the keyboard x) no doubt she is just amazing. For the interpretation it misses sensibility for my taste i'm more of an horowitz person ^^

  • @davidlunt1126
    @davidlunt1126 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horowitz and Hough capture the Rach rubato wonderfully

  • @ilikechopin8112
    @ilikechopin8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    MARTHA!!!... legendary performance, and connection with director, orchestra! articulation, MUSICALITY!... you hear the music, orchestra is mesmerized!...

  • @tonteria24
    @tonteria24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have no doubts, for me Argerich's interpretation is the best, the most beautiful, because of her fury, because of her great technique.

    • @zxavier1594
      @zxavier1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best should only belong to man

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zxavier1594 Do you really think what you write? or is it humor?

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For me Argerich and Yuja Wang are the best, Yuja shows stark contrast between the extremely light and playful first part of the theme (scherzo) with the ferocious and heavy climax at the very top. Meanwhile, Argerich has probably one of the most intense cadenza I've ever heard, like the piece and the devil is slowly possessing her hands :D.

    • @nicolaspachecoarango
      @nicolaspachecoarango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zxavier1594 music has a got a character not a gender.

    • @firstnamelastname6071
      @firstnamelastname6071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rigel48 a crap attempt at humor too.

  • @SimonParker-hv6uu
    @SimonParker-hv6uu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hard not to love Yuja, although Kocsis is pretty phenomenal

  • @mc-ch3ho
    @mc-ch3ho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have been listening to this cadenza for years and I loved it, but currently I think the Ossia is so much more intense
    PS I'm loving Luganski and Yuja

    • @timothybolshaw
      @timothybolshaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rachmaninov composed the Ossia as the original cadenza. Later, he decided that such an intense cadenza unbalanced the overall shape of the piece, and composed the (now) standard cadenza. The most serious artists (like Yuja and Luganski) not only play the standard cadenza in deference to the composer's wishes. They also tone down the virtuosity, again so the piece as a whole is presented as the composer intended.

    • @brospore7897
      @brospore7897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the ossia as a pianist, as a fanboy. However the ossia is at level 10 intensity and dynamically it’s fff all the way through so that when you get to the actual climax (where the ossia and standard meet up) you have nowhere to go with dynamics and can only broaden with tempo, and you find with the ossia you have to stretch out that climax so much that it becomes distorted. Alternatively the ossia can be played briskly to allow the climax to broaden without distortion, but you rush past all the wonder of the large chords of the main theme.
      Musically the standard cadenza is much better, it is balanced and fits much better with the climax. But the ossia is still more fun.

    • @hvanngil9575
      @hvanngil9575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothybolshaw
      glad to read your comment, it fits perfectly my impressions. I would like to add St. Hough. I admire Argerich but IMO sometimes she exaggerates her virtuoso pianistic skills to the disadvantage of the composed. But once the fame is installed, it is praised shamelessly.
      Luganski in particular clarifies the structure, the "musical content" and the "weight" of this cadenza in the dramaturgy of the entire concerto with a sovereign choice of tempi and timbres.
      In the meantime - since 2022 - there is a new milestone in the history of the interpretation of Rach 3, played by 18-year-old Yunchan Lim at the Cliburn Competition 2022. He chose the standard cadenza.
      th-cam.com/video/GvKQKnIVy1I/w-d-xo.html

  • @dcc70
    @dcc70 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Martha loved Rach as much as I do. If she plays this with as much love as she does Chopin, I would be in musical heaven.

  • @sickheadache9903
    @sickheadache9903 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow !,, Martha was truly young ..she got it right! Her grandson David Chen..is awesome also!

  • @78pianist
    @78pianist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's nice to know that the composer himself played this version.

    • @Bevsworld04
      @Bevsworld04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Apparently he thought the ossia cadenza was too climactic

  • @frazzledude
    @frazzledude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is no known film of Rachmaninoff playing, but you should have included the audio recording of him playing the cadenza as a comparison with these pianists to the composer himself.

  • @KenL414
    @KenL414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous video - every one of these masters is special in their own way. In awe.

  • @RoboticsBay
    @RoboticsBay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God Zoltan, so clear, so musical...

  • @vladimirmiletic7851
    @vladimirmiletic7851 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Argerich, of course. The sheer emotional intensity of it... omg ❤ Kocsis is also fascinating, Horowitz's performance here is unfair to compare since he is way past his prime at the time of the recording. Lugansky and Zilberstein both did very well but I'd like to see more pianist personality in there. They certainly do justice to the cadenza.
    I am a bit surprised at all the Yuja stans. Her technical ability is superb, needless to say, but when it comes to most of her repertoire, it just seems like she is very reluctant to dive in below the notes and dig out something that packs an emotional punch. As much as I love the fact that Argerich is so technically brilliant, she is my favorite because of the depth and the intensity. She simple owns every piece she plays. I like Yuja's Prokofiev and her Bartok, but Rach, Chopin, et al. - her performances sadly stir nothing in me. It seems well played and somewhat playful but with no heart, no emotional investment that I could feel. :-/

    • @antoniovisioli4460
      @antoniovisioli4460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Analisi fantastica e competente. Grazie!

  • @malcolm20091000
    @malcolm20091000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow. All are great but Argerich just blew it away. She could have played that part in a honky tonk (even her piano clanged!) I had never heard of Lilya Zilberstein before, but she was absolutely superb. Second best by a 32nd note!

  • @jimgott119
    @jimgott119 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Of the ten, I think Yuja Wang has the most musical interpretation. It has the best flow and is easier for the listener to hear the continuity of the entire passage. The others were more disjointed in their tempi and I think they concentrated too much on the flashy pyrotechnics and speed than on the musicality and phrasing.

  • @vialaspezia
    @vialaspezia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Martha the best one

  • @evifnoskcaj
    @evifnoskcaj ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Martha is a god. She's insane. I love her.

  • @cristinawierzbicki4688
    @cristinawierzbicki4688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    El Maestro Nikolai Lugansky el Mejor!!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Maelstrom000
    @Maelstrom000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Alexis Weissenberg - super rushed. Disliked
    Vladimir Horowitz - past his prime. Disappointing as I usually love his playing
    Martha Argerich - all out intensity. Jeez, my heart! Great audio - could hear everything
    Bruno Gelber - HORRIBLE audio. Couldn't hear a thing
    Zoltan Kocsis - Different. I'll give him that. He hit all the right notes...I just didn't get it
    Joaquin Achuccarro - beginning is great. Rhythmically challenged at the end
    Stephen Hough - Wow. That was great
    Lilya Zilberstein - loved it
    Nikolaï Lugansky - Superb. Close second for me
    Yuja Wang - My favorite. Just perfect. Delicate and slow at the beginning and building intensity through-out. Everything was just sublime. Nowhere near the intensity of Martha but somehow I connect so much more with this interpretation
    Interesting hearing them all one after the other. I didn't know I had preferences in how this cadenza should sound, but I definitely do. Don't know if my preferences are worth anything though :) On to the Ossia now. Excited! That one is all about intensity so it will be different

    • @bomcabedal
      @bomcabedal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair assessment; slightly higher markings for Kocsis and Lugansky for me - but I'm perhaps prejudiced because I heard the latter perform it live, and it was entirely captivating even for someone who isn't really in love with Rachmaninov.

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lilya Zilberstein was playing ( obviously) at Teatro alla Scala, Milano.

  • @randomytguy7315
    @randomytguy7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Martha and yuja are simply... Perfect!

  • @gabrielmandelas5527
    @gabrielmandelas5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Martha's interpretation is the most perfect, the most ideal combination of technique and musicality. She is truly the best. She has no equal.

  • @facundoramirezpiano1965
    @facundoramirezpiano1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Martha Argerich.

  • @JohnDoe-tw8es
    @JohnDoe-tw8es 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like Yuja the best, not sure why just something about her.

  • @lauratonelli8438
    @lauratonelli8438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Martha Argerich is the best!!

    • @Exelsio
      @Exelsio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Too hectic. ;)

    • @josee1984
      @josee1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Exelsio it's a hectic cadenza

  • @indiosse
    @indiosse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stephen Hough though

  • @Taosravenfan
    @Taosravenfan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an ardent amateur, I can not pass judgement on technical expertise. What I can say is that this piano concerto is unsurpassed. And that Yuja Wang’s hands look like an extension of the piano. Thanks for posting.

  • @terryriley7928
    @terryriley7928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yuja easily gets my vote because she plays it with such relaxed technique...she is not even going full power!

  • @mlaux72
    @mlaux72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lilya Zilberstein and Nikolaï Lugansky are my favourite

  • @romanleca4969
    @romanleca4969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Martha is devastating. I forgot to breathe.

  • @thomasbroido2218
    @thomasbroido2218 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am unable to say "ever" but of this part of the concerto and these 10 marvelous pianists Argerich is easily the best.

  • @claudioparrella183
    @claudioparrella183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kocsis riesce a legare le note alla perfezione; Wang ha una bella intuizione suonando la cadenza in accellerando e crescendo

  • @thibomeurkens2296
    @thibomeurkens2296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Martha Argerich is the best in my opinion (the film is terribly annoying SHOW THE HANDS!!!) but she plays so well! She builds in intensity where other pianists play some parts softer she goes full out.

    • @williambunter3311
      @williambunter3311 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thibo, I so agree. I get so frustrated by the number of idiot video producers who take the camera away from the hands, especially at the moments of extreme virtuosity. Don't they realise that the amazing technical dexterity adds even more pleasure to the listening?! I don't want to see the conductor's beard, nor the piano woodwork, nor even Yuja's pretty face. I want to see the HANDS!

  • @shantihealer
    @shantihealer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Horowitz is the classiest - he plays like Zidane used to play football. Both were geniuses who played in a different space-time to everyone else. Notice how Horowitz plays every note distinct from every other note, how he tames the piano as an instrument in an effortless way without any vulgarity, and most incredibly of all how he creates the illusion of having greater time on his hands. He gets in between each note and chord like a zen master inhabiting the moment with transcendent ease. And then there's the character of his playing, an individual, unique, artistic personality making the other pianists like Wang & Hough & Lugansky just sound bland and boring. If it ain't got character it ain't got class!

    • @hvanngil9575
      @hvanngil9575 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wang & Hough & Lugansky boring? So ein Quatsch. Accepted as subjective opinion - worthless as objective judgement.

  • @mousike81
    @mousike81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Always Martha. Two from Argentina: Gelber and Argerich. 🇦🇷♥️

  • @driangx
    @driangx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is not here, but on my opinion Yuncham Lim's cadenza It is by far the best performance ever...

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This student Yunchan Lim played colorless dry cold piano sound Rach concerto no 3 in the Cliburn Finals! Dimitri Bashkirov her teacher Anastasia Virsaladze teach saying to Bashkirov the most important lesson is the love of beautiful colorful piano sound! This was already in 1930s! Really shocking!! Now totally crazy deaf people claming student Yunchan Lim is the greatest ever! Crazy world we are living! All the modern players are colorless cold dry piano sound players like Krystian Zimerman Evgeny Kissin Mikhail Pletnev Marc Andre Hamelin and latest hype student Yunchan Lim! All the beautiful colorful sound players are gone dead like Emil Gilels Radu Lupu Wilhelm Kempff Artur Rubinstein Vladimir Ashkenazy!

    • @pianista-mediocre
      @pianista-mediocre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@RaineriHakkarainenWhat is your opinion on Katsaris and Nelson Freire??

  • @edwinsinclair9853
    @edwinsinclair9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find that Olga Kern's performance (not shown here) of the Rach 3 at the 2001 Van Cliburn to be the most spirited satisfying
    performance along with the original Van Cliburn in1958 at Carnegie Hall.

    • @joelstein7425
      @joelstein7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Van Cliburn does not play this cadenza.

    • @SimonParker-hv6uu
      @SimonParker-hv6uu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I also very much liked Olga Kern s version

  • @cameronbrown9634
    @cameronbrown9634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Horowitz's musical phrasing is second to none. He's just quite old here. He will always be the best

    • @cantkeepitin
      @cantkeepitin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Second to none in the bad direction unfortunately. There are only a few good Horowitz records like 6th hungarian or tschaikovsky concerto.

    • @FrostDirt
      @FrostDirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cantkeepitin his Schubert Impromptu No. 3 is legendary

  • @nyjazzman
    @nyjazzman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Argerich and Wang were the best. My opinion - Yuja has the edge. She plays it like she owns it. I'm pretty sure Horowitz was once the best, and the advantage (perhaps) of actually having Rachmaninoff as a friend, giving him some insight.

    • @fb7876
      @fb7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yuja has nothing

  • @stephenyeung8107
    @stephenyeung8107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Martha and Yuja

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i like Kocsis's - or maybe Gelber's version

  • @Samuel-lo8rl
    @Samuel-lo8rl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A Martha Argerich é a Melhor! 😍❤️

  • @josuegomeztorio4477
    @josuegomeztorio4477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yuya 11/10

  • @AlbertoSegovia.
    @AlbertoSegovia. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wasn’t this “regular” cadenza the one preferred by Rachmaninov? To me it sounds way more polished and subtle than the rough ossia cadenza. Thanks for sharing; rare to hear it played on TH-cam or anywhere! Although I prefer slower, more agogic interpretations than these ego-driven, rushed playings. I think we should appreciate true virtuosity more, which doesn’t always mean maniac prowess but suppleness. Also, if notation tradition is to be respected, different note values should mean something to musicians.

    • @berlinskysmith4782
      @berlinskysmith4782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually, yuja wang and and the two before her [both russians, huh] seem to have the most musical approach ... much as i admire argerich, she misses the boat here ... bl gelber is the best of the 'virtuosic' approaches here ...

    • @kiirakorpi3965
      @kiirakorpi3965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agree with you. I like the this regular cadenza better. The ossia cadenza sounds clumsy and broken...

  • @gaylendelcambre7719
    @gaylendelcambre7719 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luganski is my favorite for this cadenza and the Ossia as well. ❤

  • @YKwintner
    @YKwintner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Horowitz, of course

  • @marclopezgisbert6787
    @marclopezgisbert6787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Martha Argerich without any doubt. The best!

  • @Jonathan-mn4ss
    @Jonathan-mn4ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suspect that none of you have ever heard this performed by Thea Sjaegerud or Lydia Jungner.

  • @kevtherev8194
    @kevtherev8194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks from TAIWAN

  • @metaphysician7621
    @metaphysician7621 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll go with #2, along with #3, who deeply admired #2. But they’re all wonderful.

  • @akrscoi
    @akrscoi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horowitz has aura

  • @marshall62020
    @marshall62020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Martha Argerich!!!!!

  • @michaelcoolen8716
    @michaelcoolen8716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hough and Wang.

  • @ViniciusRodrigues-nk4bs
    @ViniciusRodrigues-nk4bs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martha, and Zoltan. Like twins.

  • @DDReed-y1i
    @DDReed-y1i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wang and Kocsis

  • @salwamelancolic3827
    @salwamelancolic3827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The diabolic concerto !

  • @pablogutierrezmendez5673
    @pablogutierrezmendez5673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Argerich is the only one that plays it the closest to how Rachmaninoff himself did. Both quickly with that fire spirit!

  • @dkimphoto
    @dkimphoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What idiot video editor cuts to a shot of the conductor’s face in the middle of Argerich’s cadenza?!!! Blasphemous

    • @willemboone7912
      @willemboone7912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Terrible indeed! There is another really bad film of her playing Tschaikofsky 1 with Dutoit (from the 1970's) where the lights on the ceiling are filmed when she plays the double octaves!!!

    • @michaelhendriksen2465
      @michaelhendriksen2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also wondered this same thing. A live performance from Germany in 1982 never to be forgotten! I did not see it but heard it live on the radio in the USA.

  • @ТатьянаВоронцова-ы2л
    @ТатьянаВоронцова-ы2л หลายเดือนก่อน

    Все гении!

  • @ericjohn5484
    @ericjohn5484 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Billy Joel's in trouble !

  • @notafanboy250
    @notafanboy250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I had to choose from the ones shown here, I like Lugasnky's the best.

  • @giancarloargentaro9023
    @giancarloargentaro9023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Martha is the best, of course.

  • @jeanl56
    @jeanl56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pourquoi s'arrêter à dix. La liste aurait pu être plus longue,Emil Giles ,Katia Buniatosvili ect....

  • @chendian-jing6037
    @chendian-jing6037 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! I ever thought that the Ossia was written by someone since I have not found the recording of Ossia played by Rach.

    • @sleep3017
      @sleep3017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually Rach only composed the ossia cadenza but he felt that it was too climactic for the first movement so he never played it but published it anyway for other people.

  • @DrBenSutterEugene
    @DrBenSutterEugene หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incomplete without Bronfman.

  • @NN-rn1oz
    @NN-rn1oz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Hough's "walk in the park".

  • @renelicht
    @renelicht ปีที่แล้ว

    😍😍😍😍😍

  • @javierfuentesacuarelas6322
    @javierfuentesacuarelas6322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joaquín Achucarro is playing with the Spanish National Orchestra. At that time Walter Weller was principal guest condutor, and I was subsciber of this orchestra. ( I still am ) and I rememeber very well the musicians at that time

  • @Tubbknuckles
    @Tubbknuckles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s comical to hear all these Martha Argerich fans lubing her up as the best. But I bet if we put blinders on them they wouldn’t know the difference and who was who.
    That said why isn’t Ashkenazi in here?

  • @Gardis72
    @Gardis72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And which one was considered the more difficult?

  • @diegocaminitimastroviti267
    @diegocaminitimastroviti267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marta y yuja !! The BEST !!

  • @valentincaceres9071
    @valentincaceres9071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Argerich's interpretation is truly superior, she plays so quickly and clearly that every note of the cadenza can be heard, the level of perfection that this woman reached is impressive

  • @sungmanshin
    @sungmanshin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If we have a blind test who is going to be the best? Not horowitz for sure

    • @zjdh7692
      @zjdh7692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, but the sound he makes with the piano is how I like it. I wish there was someone today with his sound and less mistakes. Ofcourse he was old. If you listen blindly, you immediately know when Horowitz is playing. Thats something special which no other pianist has.

    • @vegrl
      @vegrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horowitz has such a unique sound and style that he’s easily recognizable. And his rachmaninoff interpretations are rarely not the best, although argerich is definitely up there too

  • @Smilthy
    @Smilthy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They’re all great but the Ossia Cadenza is the BEST!!!

  • @nicholasschroeder3678
    @nicholasschroeder3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, I mean they're all good, but I like the three women best. They all seem to bring out the drama far more, and dare I say it--the sexuality. It kind of changed my idea of this piece.

  • @charlescoleman5509
    @charlescoleman5509 ปีที่แล้ว

    Favorite: Zilberstein!

  • @erichkusterer6339
    @erichkusterer6339 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of them can play piano !! ❤

  • @gerardobullon5515
    @gerardobullon5515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Achúcarro plays with the Spanish RTVE Orchestra.

  • @eminkiourktchian7969
    @eminkiourktchian7969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is Gilels ?????

    • @cantkeepitin
      @cantkeepitin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best with Kondrashin

    • @zestofpiano3509
      @zestofpiano3509  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't find Gilels 's video footage

  • @ProbstRobert
    @ProbstRobert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kocsis all the way!