Rachmaninoff Concerto No.3 "Solo" Version 1st mov. (with ossia Cadenza ) Valentina Lisitsa
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A message in a bottle for anybody who worried it's too fast, please check Rachmaninoff playing his own 3rd Concerto :
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LOL. My mind is adding the orchestra!!!! I can't stop it!
It is so true, I can still listen to this and hear the orchestra, it's like some of my old vinyl records that had scratches, I still anticipate them even on the CDs. Imagine a world without music. That's why every interpretation has it's own merits even when you like them or not.
Same here!
Trying to hum the orchestra parts and I still can’t keep up 😃
You should hear her play rach 2 1 mvt solo. Its sounds like the orchestra is actually playing. Heres the link th-cam.com/video/ufb2TrR3UAo/w-d-xo.html
No joke.. It's FREAKY. But as someone said that's the genius of the orchestration. It's like he broke out the sympathetic harmonies and resonances the piano is creating and turned them into the scores for the rest of the orchestra.
Brilliant.
Also, when you hear the "solo" version, you realize the genius of Rachmaninoff's orchestration.
True
I was thinking the same thing.
It appears she is playing on a Bosendorfer Imperial, the 9'6 masterpiece of the piano world. It has 9 extra keys in the bass, all colored black. This allows the bass bridge and lowest standard notes to be nearer to center of soundboard, creates more soundboard area and allows for more coloring due to 9 very long bass strings ringing sympathetically when pedal is in use.
thanks! I've been wondering what the difference is.
It certainly is a Bosendorfer Imperial.
Yup -- that is consistently her weapon of choice. :)
I noticed also a couple of places she improvised and used the the keys below the standard bottom A.
Damn, if only Rachmaninoff had Bosendorfer Imperial Grand...
Wow 😲 if you hadn't pointed that out, I would have overlooked it. It seems like a very finely crafted instrument. Then again it seems that regardless of who the manufacturer is grand pianos nearly always have good craftsmanship.
9:33 is the beginning of the ossia cadenza for anyone who is trying to jump to there! this performance is amazing
Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between the Ossia Cadenza and the other common cadenza?
emile Okay well Rachmaninov wrote two different cadenzas for this piece. "Ossia" as a term just means "alternate." It's interesting, however, that this cadenza was given this name, as it was written first; however, in the one common recording of Rachmaninov himself performing the 3rd, he performs the other cadenza, which is lighter and in the form of a toccata. The Ossia is likely called such because of its difficulty, which makes it less played, especially in live performances-although many play it when recording. The lower frequency of its use, even by Rachmaninov himself likely contributes to the name, although, if you can play the concerto itself, you can play the cadenza for the most part. In actuality, they're just alternate cadenzas; some pianists play one, some, the other, some both. Neither one is more correct than the other-though I, and many others, prefer listening to the Ossia. I hope this answers your question!
Whit FitzGerald yes you answered my question perfectly. Thankyou!
"some play both" - presumably you mean on different occasions!
Thanks for the advice!
Her version of the cadenza is unfathomably better than any other pianist. My god, this is the definition of perfection.
+Anthony Orso I love Valentina a truly remarkable pianist but objectively if you want the most dynamic and dramatic Ossia listen to Laza Berman, the Cadenzza only is on yt, he never stops with the crescendo you feel like you want wrestle a bear when over. For the best in balance in showing the virtuosity, extracting all the subtle nuances and musicality from this amazing concerto please listen to Olga Kern with James Conlon outstanding is the only description
+busylifemeto I am with you 100,000%. Lazar Berman performs the Ossia Cadenza to perfection. I have not heard Kern yet. Thanks for the heads up.
+busylifemeto just listened to it. I actually like Valentina's version on the *album* more. Not live, but the album. Still that guy is amazing!
+Anthony Orso Hi Anthony my favourite is Olga Kern because she puts the power and dynamics into it but draws all the subtle nuance you miss from others with the aim to prove superior virtuosity Lazar Bermans is most dramatic, but Olga wins 1st place for me, she won first place in the 2001 Van Cliburn with the Rach 3 :)
Yefim Bronfman
11:41 those added sub-bass keys send chills down my spine...that’s impressively powerful
Your ossia cadenza is the most powerful thing I've ever heard on the piano
Listen to matsuev's...
Or Sokolov or me In the future 😇
Lazar Bermans cadens also that powerfull
@@adrianopiano5551 hey, I saw your Rach 3 practices on your youtube shorts, keep up the good work
yes, and bösendorfer290 helps a lot…
The cadenza is honestly one of the best I ever heard. An absolute hurricane. And this is where the Bosendorfer makes a difference. The sound is so rich
That low note that she hit was 🔥🔥!!!!
It's like this playing is cleaning my brain of all kinds of pollution. As fresh water running through.
I think that’s why music is played at least one of the reasons
I have been listening to Rachmaninov all my life. Listening to your performance brought me to tears. A performance has not done this for quite some time. Thank you. I shall be listening again and again.
I'm convinced Valentina is the best musician alive today. Hands down.. so graceful.. so much emotion. Perfect and flawless.
Love it! There's something uniquely intimate in hearing and seeing the solo piano part. It's like Valentina is sharing a private and hidden world with us.
Yes, I agree.
great - she is using the contra octave keys Boesendorfer offers..rare!
thanks valentina! now the orchestra has some piano recordings to practice along. :_p
Valentina is definitely at the top of my list for one of the few top pianists in the world, solo or concerto. She deserves more recognition !
Apparently bevsuse she politically doesn’t oppose Putin western orchestras don’t want us to enjoy listening to this amazing and talented pianist. Fucking woke people everywhere. I don’t go to a concert because of the political opinions of the soloist. I go to listen to their art.
@@user-ho7hq5wo6d Would you go to a Hitlers concert ?
@@user-ho7hq5wo6d she does not only oppose, but promotes the violence. She went and gave a free concert at the occupied Mariupol.
I'm sure i could hear strings and Oboe at some sections, but it must be the mind playing tricks.
Heard them too :)
Horns and oboes at 3:50 aprox? Lol !
I wonder if Rachmaninoff was moved to tears as well by the passage he composed starting at 3:00
+STZR It's so beautiful. She plays it so sensitively too, was expecting it to be faster after the introduction! But it was damn near perfect
I love that part too. I could listen to it all day!
That part always gets me; especially the change in tone which happens soon after 3:40. Perhaps oddly specific, but I just imagine a romantic moonlit evening in the middle of a warzone
Really superb. I’ve always thought the cadenza from this is one of the most spectacular things I’ve ever heard. It just gets so continually dramatic like it’s never going to end and you don’t really want it to end.
one of my favorite pieces! thanks for making it even more beautiful with your astonishing performance!
What I love abt these concertos played in minimalist mode - either instrument alone or instrument accompanied by a piano playing the orchestral parts is that I can finally hear & appreciate the full articulation of the solo instrument in question. Its always the case where with a full orchestra playing full blast, the sound & articulation of the soloist will always be drowned out making it inaudible or at best muffled. Thanks much for uploading this!
Only Lisitsa could play a single melody in bare octaves so amazing beautiful!
These solo versions are wonderful to hear. Sometimes it’s tough to hear all the notes in live orchestral recordings on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing, great performance!
Valentina you are fantastic! I anxiously await all of your uploads :) and releases. I LOVE your interoperation of the cadenza.
Dear Valentina! I am a huge admirer, and always choose your playing above many others. Today I am finally able to listen to this channel again since August. It disappeared nearly 2 months ago, and today, I can finally listen to your many other recordings which were only on TH-cam (as I believe). I have been craving to listen to your Rach 3 solos and many other live performances..... God be thanked that your videos are not gone and your channel can grow again....
Thank you very much, Valentina!!
Love these “solo” performances.....provides an even greater appreciation for the nuances of the piano score.
Fantastic, wonderful, the best interpretation of Rach3 I've ever heard! Valentina you are extraordinary! Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!
Amazing performance of my favourite concerto, I saved it to my TH-cam favourites. So much more detail can be heard without the orchestra playing and I can now hear that detail in the full version making it even better! Many thanks.
That was just absolutely heart-moving, Valentina. It brought me to tears. It was so amazing to hear you playing that piece to the fullest, and without the orchestra accompanying. It was so amazing to hear it done that way, and I really felt your pure emotion and feeling!
I would have never guessed that the concerto was so beautiful played in solo, wow, what a surprise! Rachmaninoff knew how to use the instrument. Also that cadenza interpretation is really awesome Valentina, keep up the good work and your strong presence on youtube, it's really appreciated, I'm a huge fan of yours, I hope you will come back to Montreal soon!
Number three is my favourite and to my unmusical ears, I like her playing more than other pianists. Just my opinion. To me, her interpretation sounds like water; flowing effortlessly.
Molly Cutpurse
Yes! I have been waiting for this since your recordings of concertos no. 1 and 2 went online! Thank you!!!
Oh my goodness! I have waited a LONG time to hear you play this piece! Bless you!
This is absolutely insane!! The most accurate definition of musical talent
wow!!!!!!!!! just wow!!! I cried and realised the vastness and complexity of the Universe and of the human mind. Thank you thank you
Wonderful Valentina! An execution full of heart and with astonishing technique. Thank you for sharing.
You make it look so easy, Valentina. Thanks for sharing your talent with us.
THANK YOU for playing the theme that starts at 3:06 so slowly... it's sublime!
Comparing this recording with the one w/ orchestra when Rachmaninov himself is playing,
I must say that this single recording only misses nothing.
It is truly one of the best music pieces I have ever experienced being performed.
He have been listened to various no#3 concerto performances since I am a child,
and as I said, Valentina manage it that one do not miss the orchestra - she is not only natural and in a way rude - she is one of the best pianists I have ever heard.
funny i keep coming back to hear her play...Valentina is most definitely a Natural and my Favorite pianist...
Such a shame there are people who even censor artists for their opinions....
another stunning, world class performance ! Thank you and Brava!
Incredible,I was looking for a solo version of the Rach3,I'm so happy
Dear Valentina. I am so grateful for the strength, passion and fluidity of your playing. I heard you in Bard College's intimate Olin Hall during the Liszt Summerscape. I understand comparisons to Argerich here, but its fairer to say that your hands, heart and approach are singular -- truly beautiful to watch and listen to.
Impresionante.....Astonishing....thanks unpoalder, Mrs Lisitsa is a true genius.
...her prhasing is always saying, always singing right to the heart.
BRAVO! I can't imagine a better rendition than this, I can only hope Mrs. Lisitsa will provide us more beautiful pieces like this.
This is what I would call playing a concerto totally naked!!! Oh my goodness Valentina! What a wonder you are to behold! You have given us such a rare gift to hear all the nuances without being covered up by an orchestra! You are brilliant! You also have a great videographer by your side!!! Love Love Love your playing! You are for me the best there is and has ever been! You are right up there with Liszt, Rach, Horrowitz, Rubenstein, just to name drop of few!!!! Bless You!!!
Superb. bravo bravo
Cadenza sounds absolutely amazing on bosendorfer
Thank you Valentina! You are great!
Your Rach interpretations are astounding. The sheer power and weight you put into this is incredible!
LOVE_U Valentina…!!!!!!
i just noticed that this piano has more than 88 keys... look at the black keys!! its 98!
yes, that's the unique feature of the Bösendorfer Grand Model 290 Imperial. You don't see them much though since they use mostly Steinway's in most classical concerts. Maybe the most prominent player of this piano was jazz pianist Oscar Peterson.
Actually 97
I can’t understand how you can play that way. Simply unbelievable and marvelous. Thanks dear lady Lisitsa.
Valentina, this performance was simply amazing! Your technical precision coupled with your touch on the keys is unmatched. I felt an urgency, sadness, happiness and everything in-between. TY for that!
Valentina's solo performances are actually the most incredible things to watch. Her own hand positioning is so fluid, performing "Rachmaninoff's Third" looks like a cakewalk.
:3
J'adore !
Brava Valentina! You have made us wait so long for #3, but it was worth the wait. Spacebo!
Amazing, as usual!
can you imagine if the concerto actually started like that with no strings, then an explosion of the orchestra when the first piano run starts! 😍
No need to imagine ... you're describing Rachmaninov's piano concerto no.2
+A Jalapeño in this case no. I'm thinking about the simplicity of the melody in this case opposed to the strong chord structure in concerto no.2. it would great if the strings burst into life after the first run on the piano! :)
I feel like the orchestra does provide a depth to the initial melody though. Maybe if it was just the pianist and one other instrument to establish the chord progressions, like flute.
How is she ever going to find an orchestra that plays at this speed? :D
+AchtungPanz3r She found the London Symphony Orchresta, and paid them out of her and her families pocket. Go buy and listen to her Rach concertos, Pagannini Rhapsody, and Music moments, you will not be dissapointed. The 3rd Concerto cadenza alone, is worth the price of the admission. Listen to it - she plays it so smooth and lyrical - It stops me in my tracks every time I hear it. Thank Sergi for the writing, and Valentina for the playing :-P
+WayUpNorth100 Right on, I'll make sure to check them out
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It’s not supposed to be at that speed, it misses the point entirely.
You can’t help but feel extremely humbled and blessed listening to this.
I've waited so long for this, and my gosh it has arrived!
subtil ! Merveilleux
When she played the Ossia Cadenza the Grand Imperial Roared like A Mighty Lion.
Valentina I just love your playing and smooth flowing style. Thank you for all you do for beautiful piano music. Who doesnt just LOVE the Rachmaninov Concerto #3, and you play it great! Thank you again.
Fantastic !!! Thanks for this solo version 🥰
When I listen to this I keep asking myself ... how can evil things exist in the world when there is such beautiful music?
I'm sure Rachmaninov would have approved of the use of those extra bass notes on the Bösendorfer at the end of the cadenza. Appropriately used and appreciated.
Samuel Whitehead yeeessss how she sustains them over the heartfelt melody to follow was incredible!!! 👍👍👍
ما هذا السحر ما هذا الإبداع ما هذه الرومانسية يا فالنتينا وانت تاخذيني إلى عالم آخر عندما استمع الى عزفك وانظر إلى اناملك الرقيقة إنك رائععععععععة
Hi Valentina! I just bought your 2nd and 3rd Rachmaninoff concerti from iTunes. They are absolutely fantastic!! I'm a longtime fan and have been eagerly waiting to hear the final product. Without bias (OK, maybe a little, lol!) I have to say, your recordings are two of my favorite recordings of those pieces... EVER. Your grasp of Rachmaninoff's voice is truly inspiring. I feel like your interpretation is precisely how he would have liked to hear them played. WELL DONE!!
Amazing. And the orchestra is so quiet. It's almost like they're not even there.
Every time I hear the cadenza, I feel like I'm entering a church, and hearing a big, big organ playing this... I wonder how it would sound...
+792Paul That just gave me the idea to arrange it and try it! Thanks!
Wow, it would be great if you could also post a video of it?...
792Paul Well it'll take quite some time just to arrange it, and then practice it flawlessly.
this truly is amazing! I got the goosebumps a couple of times through this recording. I am speechless. I will come listen to you again next time you come to Europe! Fantastic, virtuosic playing, and great musicality!
this is one of my favourite pieces ever, I'm so glad you posted yourself playing it! If anyone will do it justice, it's definitely going to be you :)
I am hearing Orchestra too 😱 ... anybody else had the same Feeling
man she is good
Thank you for this gift to piano students everywhere: just the piano part and always showing the hands!
Thank you Lisitsa. You're always sublime!
When I hear you playing I feel that are possessing by an angel.
I am a little bit sceptical concerning the playing of the cadenza. In the ossia I think that there is something monumental, something " molto grandioso ", with a growing tension which finds its peak in the part played in chords (10:36). Here I find that there is something a little bit jaunty, something too easy, which decreases the impacts of this great cadanza which has to sound as being difficult. But probably V.L. has a different view from mine.
***** Yes I know, unfortunately he did not record the ossia (same for Horowitz), so we do not know how he would have played it. The cadenza is also marked "Molto Allegro", so Valentina Lisitsa is not wrong to play very fast and maybe Rachmaninov would have played it the same way. But, on my point of vue, I think a somewhat slower tempo adds depth and grandeur to this cadenza.
rigel48 Jamais en concert Rachmaninov et Horowitz non joués ossia
+rigel48 It could be my headset but the acoustics are terribly muffled or theres too much sustain. Much of her virtuosity is rendered to low pitch rumbles :(
+rigel48 I think Van Cliburn played the cadenza best. He took it so many places before hitting you in the face with those big fat chords at 10:36.
Per your suggestion, I've listened to Rachmaninoff's rendition of the third with the Philadelphia Orchestra. If anything, I think he played it slightly faster than you. Needless to say you both played it beautifully. Envy does make it possible to find fault with perfection. Please never change your personality nor your musical efforts.
I'm not saying you're wrong. But Rachmaninoff's own recordings are played a bit faster than the tempo that he himself intended because with the technology at the time he wouldn't have been able to get the whole piece on the tape if he played it in the original tempo. Just a heads up.
@@dadaketgasparge Yeah! It's available on TH-cam I think.
Balthazar De Veroveraar TH-cam version is 30 min on here ( senar.ru ) it’s 34 min. sooo idk about that? This also goes to show he meant to play it at that tempo (especially for his second concerto)!
I want nothing more than the Prokofiev Concerto project. Thanks for supplying me with the gorgeous music, it is my dream to see you live one day.
You're amazing Valentina. Thanks for sharing your talent with us. I hope it makes you feel really wonderful and special to know how much joy you've brought to hundreds of thousands (dare i say millions) of people. This music is timeless.
PLEASE COME TO MELBOURNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The score says "Allegro ma non tanto" which means quickly but not too quickly.Valentina is one of the very few pianists that play this Concerto correctly.Her vivid imagination, technical wizardry and total overall conception eclipses almost everyone else.Unfortunately there are many 2nd rate performances, but this work was intended for the likes of Josef Hofmann and Valentina is quite marvelous.
carl armstrong I agree with you, she has a grasp of Rachmaninov's music out of the ordinary, and her tempo is prefect. However I would have prefered she chose the other cadenza. The ossia is so monumental that it unbalances the concerto. It is a too big climax and after that all seems secondary. The other one suits perfectly the concerto, especially with this tempo (Allegro ma non tanto) which gives a welcome lighter touch for this concerto.It seems that nowadays every pianist who plays this concerto wants to show that he (she) can play the ossia (if possible faster than anyone else) as if to play the other one would be a lack of technique ! Fortunately there are some exceptions like Yuja Wang (a very good version by the way) who is not afraid to play the one she prefers musically.
rigel48 yes I like Yuja Wangs CD (4 star review on amazon) but her youtube performance has a piano that's out of tune.Many of todays pianists are searching for a hidden meaning in every note rather than let the music speak for itself.You cannot always rely on youtube videos for the best performance, but check out Weissenberg/Martinon from a French TV broadcast in 1961 (shorter cadenza).I have 40 recordings of the Rach 3 and Byron Janis along with Valentina are at the top of the list.
carl armstrong she plays it prestisimo for the most part not allegro ma non tanto so how is it correct lmao
@@joeyblogsy Valentina models her interpretation after the composers recording. The scores 'Allegro ma non tanto' applies to pages 2-3 then at pages 4 through 8 the score says 'Piu mosso' which is what she does.
11:55 I swear you can hear the flute.
That’s insane, they’re both geniuses.
Beautifully, warmly, poetically rendered. And wonderful you play the Ossia cadenza even if it stretches you to the limits of your technique. More solo versions please!
This is my favorite video of the world wide web!!!!!!!!
Valentina your music is a blessing to me. God bless you and thank you a lot!
1:00 So much for "ma non tanto"
I love her playing. But sometimes I feel like her tempos are way too fast . . . like she has a plane to catch. Faster is not necessarily better.
Faster is most certainly not better but the way Rachmaninoff composed this peace with its speed gives it a flow some momentum and atmosphere that lots of other pieces don't have. He also created a large contrast between parts adding more effect.
@@mr.octopie6199 Rachmaninov didn’t compose it with the intention of it being played that fast.
But that doesn't mean that you cant play it fast, in my opinion, that's to be decided by the interpreter. If they think, that more speed creates a different more fitting atmosphere then that might be right for that performance.
This is magnificent. I think I just got better by watching and listening. Thank you!!
Wow, what a stunning performance!
Technically it sounded brilliant, but somehow it didn't stir the senses emotionally for me. I'm not sure why.
Because she rushed through the fast passages at breakneck speed, without the subtle variations in tempo and touch that make a piece "come alive" and enable the emotional response that, as you say, is lacking. Also, probably the fact that her counterpart - the whole symphony orchestra - is missing did not help things.
Robert Rotstein are there other solo recordings of this concerto?
Maybe because it's missing an entire orchestra.
John Feehan Yes, thanks I had taken that into account; I was referring to the piano performance itself - obviously I'm not expecting this solo performance to compare to one with an entire orchestra.
Are there any other solo performances to compare this to? I wonder if an orchestra would change the way she she played it.
Stunning! And I always wondered how this would sound without a symphonic orchestra!
Can't wait to buy your CD!
I think it is amazing fun -and enjoy the fact that you describe your work that way. Thank You!
(playing this over and over)
Wonderful interpretation, masterpiece, love it, thank you so much! Quelle sublime interprétation, un chef-d'oeuvre musical, j'adore, merci infiniment de nous le partager❤
This was so beautiful, and like many have written, it was really hard not to play the entire orchestra in my head. Ms. Lisitsa, your work is inspirational.
Just...wow!!! I really love the last part of the cadenza where you used the extra keys, so cool!
great job!!!!!
It's impossible not to "hear" the orchestra!!
Beyond description or comparison. Amazing passion, technique and beauty
you're the best of all time, fantastico, fantastico
What a jaw-dropping performance!! The cadenza is so stunning
Woo-hoo! I have been waiting a long time for this! :)
Amazing!!!!! Can't stop some tear drops