Mizuno JPX921 Forged Iron VS Mizuno JPX919 Forged Iron - New VS Old
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
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I compare the brand new Mizuno JPX921 Forged Iron against last years model, the Mizuno JPX919 Forged Iron in a head to head style battle. All data measured by TrackMan along with my personal thoughts the looks and feel between the two clubs.
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Great Video Mike, the sound quality is the best ever! Well done
Good emphasis/mention of the faster swing speed with the 921. Thoughtful and thorough, and definitely swinging better than your initial review. Good stuff. Keep it coming.
I had 900 forged, sold it and bought 919 forged and 919 Tour. Just love Mizunos. May get the 921 also. :)
Love your swing Michael! As always great review! Thanks!
Great review and comparison. I think I will be upgrading this winter from my Titleist AP1 714s into these JPX921 Forged after all the consistent reviews of dispersion, feel, and looks. I don't buy clubs often (as evident with my 714s) so I want them to last me awhile.
Nice comparison!
A needed addition to the library!
Great review. I'm looking to upgrade my JPX 900 HM to the 921 Forged and this has made my decision easier.
having viewed all of these mizuno 921 forged reviews over the past week, it is quite remarkable how every single tester has shown very tight dispersion with the new irons, in some cases crazy good consistency that has even taken the player by surprise... mine are on order so i am glad they are being so well received.
G B - I had same result, very tight grouping for me, I just ordered today.
The 921 dispersion was awesome especially taking into account the loft difference. 👍👍👍 great review
I have the 919 HM Pros... not switching at all..love them.
Man, your swing is butter. I’m giving the HM or HMP a try. They both feel lovely
I have Callaway XR and looking to upgrade. I would definitely give the JPX921 a try.
If I could have any TH-camrs swing it’d be yours. Amazing.
And great videos too 🙂
I really like this review. No bullshit, just pure good info :-)
Best looking iron on the market right now. Great comparison...... 😃👍🏻😃
Expecting my New set of 921's to arrive next week 😍😍
Can’t wait to actually try out the 921 , looks great, I’d think the hot metal pro will be my option thoe. Off 16 atm and only swinging my 7 iron around 80mph
I just got fitted for my 921 forged irons, I was a little shocked in that I have been gaming the ping i500’s for the past couple of years, and have always been a ping guy, but these clubs were so much better in terms of feel, performance and forgiveness.
I like them both, just wish I could swing as smooth as you do... 200 yards carry with a 7 iron
I’ve had MP20 HMB for just over a year now and been mostly happy, KBS Tour 100 shaft. 921 wasn’t available when I purchased. Hit a bucket with JPX921 7 iron with 3 different shafts a week ago (PX LZ 5.5 / KBS Tour V 90 / Modus 105 S) and it felt good with a slightly stronger ball flight than my HMB.
Went to Mizuno Demo day yesterday, warmed up, took some measurements with my HMB 7 iron. Hit a couple with the Mizuno Bluetooth shaft optimiser / selector, put the shaft I thought would be for me based on last week (ie. Modus 120 S) straight away. Step up absolutely flushed the first 4 shots, about 1-2 mtrs of dispersion, gained 5 Mph Ball Speed approx. 8 Mtrs carry. Ball flight was in a much better and stronger window.
I’m not playing down the 1 degree less loft, or the shaft, but combo of the new head technology and the shaft well happy days.......only issue now is I have to wait 8 weeks and sell my HMBs.
I sure like my 919 Forged clubs. I was fit into them and quite intimidated at first coming from high forgiveness, game improvement Ping G400's. I have found the 919's to be very forgiving, yet they communicate strike quality and shape well (given my skill limitations). I do very much prefer the Mat finish. What I like most about the clubs is the consistency of distance. For me my 8 iron is 150 yds and each club is almost exactly 10 yards difference..... so 7 iron is 160 and 9 iron is 140 and so on. I love that consistency. Combine that with the variety of the Mizuno stock shaft offerings, the amazingly soft feel on good strikes and the surprisingly accurate "3 swing fitting" device they have and I have become a big Mizuno fan.
I’m still playing the 850 Forged and love them. I feel the 850 has a slimmer profile than the 900/919 and am looking to finally upgrade as my swing has evolved quite a bit. I tested out the MP20 MMC last week and really loved them, but am waiting until I can take a look at the 921 Tour and Forged first. I’d love to see a comparison of the 921 Tour to the MP 20 MMC. The fitting I did with the MMCs was with nspro modus3 tour 105 x-stiff (slightly better control for me than the Project X LZ 6.5). Will also be exploring graphite i.e. SteelFiber FC115 X (stock option), Accra iCWT 95, Fujikura Pro 95 X and would love to see that in a comparison
I play the 919 forged and would not change, I will wait and see the next generation of MP irons
Nice review. You were certainly swinging well today - very long carry numbers for a 7-iron.
I demo'ed the 919 Forged when they came out and I wasn't crazy about them. I hit the 921's last week and walked out with a full set. For me they are the perfect size, amazing feel, good forgiveness and long. I traded out of Titleist T100's.
Hey mate , how do you feel about them a year later?
@@downsouth1678 they are ok, not my end club for sure.
I received a demo set via GlobalGolf’s U-Try program (JPX 921 Forged w/ Project X LZ Blackout shafts). I started paying attention to Mizuno after watching another yt channel and then this review video.
My old set is TM Rocketbladez that are showing their age.
I agree with everything in your review. They’re beautiful and have a clean, minimalist appearance. Ball flight is excellent. The sound and feel are equally amazing.
I took them to the range early this morning and hit a small bucket with the 7 iron. I figured if I didn’t like them, I could return the set having used only one club, and if I did like them I’d use them in my round later that morning. The 7 felt great on the range, so off to the course. As the round went, I was more sure that I was going to keep the set. Then on 18, par 5, I hit a 205 yd shot onto the green with the 5 iron that felt better than any shot I’ve ever hit. I can’t describe the feeling when you hit these clubs flush. It’s pure joy. That shot sold the set. I immediately said “Oh yeah I’m keeping these.”
Just put a set of 919 pros in my bag yesterday, but have 30 days to try them out. The cost to upgrade to 921’s is $150 so I’m tempted to return them and get fitted for the 921 pros.
Hey Mike, watching these Mizuno reviews VERY closely! Any chance of a comparison between the 921 Forged and the MP20 HMB 🤔 I may have to come in for a fitting lol 😂
Great review, I have just ordered 921 forged trading in my 919 hot metal because they feel sooooo good only 25 sleeps to go.
Nice!!
How do you like them Simon?
Really good Mark not had a lot of practice with them yet because of lockdown. But look great. Definitely would recommend.
This shows how much a fitting matters . Have watched a few now and seen a 1000 rpm of spin difference between reviewers and all depends on club delivery
So about a 10yard improvement from the 1* and chromoly...perfect! Coming from the 919F and pre~ordered the new 921F should be welcomed distance. Great review once again! Thank you MIke. That swing is looking healthy too my man
In addition to a faster swing. I’ll stick with 919
Already got my preorder in to put the 919F set as the back up set. I think the 921F is the hero club of this family with the added forgiveness and distance gained. That’s saying a lot provided how much improved the 919F was over the 900F in my fitting. Also love how they covered up the slot on the 4-7. Just a more mature version...evolution is grand
Hi Michael, any chance you could do a JPX900F vs JPX921F - They are the same lofts across the sets so would be easy to see if the chromoly and new head is making any difference. Have had the 900's for nearly 4 years and played over 250 rounds with them so figure this is around the time to upgrade.
I have a 919 forged/tour split set. Chose them over the 921 as I much prefer the satin look (don’t like shiny chrome). They hit identical to me 8 handicap. Cheers!
Went to the Osaka fitting center and ordered a set of the JPX921. Due to the pandemic it might take 3 weeks, but still hoping for the ‘possibly 2 weeks’.
Can you do the hot metal pro 919 vs 921?
Brilliant vid, think that’s cemented my thinking on the 919 in regards to the price reduction, when it comes down to the stats there’s nothing in it!
Im thinking the same.....But, I still have this little voice in the back of my head saying "wondering if they will be better and I'm missing out!"
Scott Mcdonald I know what you mean, and if you watch the average golfers review on them, he’s absolutely loving them!
For this test to be more insightful you must make the lofts the same....otherwise you will start guessing where the ball speed contribution is coming from. However based on the smash factor, it seems that the 921 face is making more of a contribution..
thanks for comparing ... i wish on the scoring irons you went back to targeting an actual flag/green instead of an open field ...
Hi Michael, would you pay the $$$ to upgrade to the 921f if you were currently playing the 919f? is it worth the upgrade or do you think, stick with the 919f as there is not enough benefit for the cost. . Just asking as I have the 919f and always love to have the latest things but when it comes to golf clubs, I prefer performance over ego!.......BTW love your channel, keep up the great work.
would love to see some angles of your swing down the line and face on. Quality as always mate
Best swing on youtube
I hit the MP20 MMC yesterday along with the new JPX 921 HMP. the HMP felt great and was very tight-not as much dispersion as the MMC. But yeah, the 921 was crazy long with less spin. My good strikes on the MMC were low 180's and best was 189. On the 921, I was striking mid 180s at worst, and my longest strike was 201 at 129mph ball speed. For a freaking 7 iron.
I loved how straight they were though! Long is great but what, am I going to carry 5 clubs below a PW?
Hi, how does the forged compare to the HMB?
Hello Michael. As you have tested the Forged 900, 919 and 921. Which of the three has de bigger blade or face lenght. Please please answer, this will help a lot for taking a decision.
Great review mike. I had the 919 Forged for nearly 1 year, but felt the face with Boron wasnt soft enough. Also had an issue with the grooves collapsing on the 8 iron and just after 1 year Mizuno wouldn’t honor their warranty. (I wound up ordering a replacement 8 iron). the 921 Forged will definitely be a great comparison to Ping i210’s when i go for my custom fit. Would like to see a comparison of the i210 to the 921 Forged. Next spring maybe the replacement i210 will be out ?
New i210 should be due around then a couple of years old now
I'll stay with my 919s for sure. I prefer the look, loft and spin. Thanks for the review.
Im thinking the same.....But, I still have this little voice in the back of my head saying "wondering if they will be better and I'm missing out!"
@@scottmcdonald2264 Same here. I had 900 F, sold it to a close friend (otherwise would not have); got the 919 Tours, struggled with it, then got the 919 Forged and love it (But still love the 900 Forged even more!)
It would be good if you did another 15/25 shots off camera and then maybe pick 5 with the same swing speed and smash factor and compare those.
Hi Michael i have the 919 forged and absolutely love them on looks and performance and would not change to 921 as i prefer the satin look. As always a great and honest review.
Im thinking the same.....But, I still have this little voice in the back of my head saying "wondering if they will be better and I'm missing out!"
@@scottmcdonald2264 I heard the same voices lol.
Have 919 F and 919 T
Please do a 919HM Pro vs 921HM Pro compare with lots of pics in regards to head size dimensions. Thanks
I can tell you just from what I already know, this is the year of my l more compact clubs from Mizuno. The 921 HMP is much more compact than 919 and also has much less offset. Same trend with the forged. I'm considering going for a HMP 22* and then 4 degree gaps with a forged/tour combo set.
This is an excellent channel.
Michael is awesome! Wish he has more subs.
I have the 919 forged and I've liked them a lot. I don't think I would upgrade. I definitely don't like the 1° stronger loft. You were flying 7 iron 205 with the 921. I think there is a line that can be crossed that's too hot or strong with the 921
200 yard 7 iron - damn! Now I get why I see some sets being sold as 7-SW - You could just go 5 wood right to 7 iron it would seem. Holy Geez!
919F all day! Mizuno went the wrong way with these 921s. They're too strong, and too low spin. I hate the low spin shots I get with my 919s! Going to bend them at least 1 degree weak for higher flight and more spin so I don't fly greens. I also prefer the satin, understated looks of the old model. Thanks for the comparison Michael!
Jan-Pierre Vidizzon 32 degree 7 iron!? 🤦🏻♂️
@@davidconlon2629 Yeah, ridiculous! And they went 31 with the new model. I'm almost tempted to go 921 Tour, but I'd be missing out on the forgiveness of the Forged.
I'm a 919F gamer but recently been looking at some Miura's or Kyoei. I don't see the value in the Mizuno's at 1400$ when I can get Miura for an extra 500$. If your already spending 1400$ on clubs an extra ~500$ won't kill you.
Please do 921 vs 923 forged!
I have 919s. Didn’t see enough there to compel me to move to the 921s
Thomas Washbush same here and I completely agree. There just isn’t enough difference to being me to spend another $1000 to upgrade. Another 5 years from now.... we will see.
Im thinking the same.....But, I still have this little voice in the back of my head saying "wondering if they will be better and I'm missing out!"
Haha,I am in the same boat here, not sure would it justify all the effort to change to the new 921's
What shaft were you using Mike
Love your work Michael. Yes, I did catch it, but how am I supposed to really discern the difference in these two clubs based on the disparity? Also, a nit, but it's Chrom-A-Loy, not Chromoly
It's actually Chrome-Oly is the best way to break it down to pronounce it. If you go check out Mizuno's website that's exactly how they pronounce it. There's no A in there just FYI, no biggie though!
Are you confident you have TM on the correct ball setting for your range balls??
Not a criticism in anyway, just find it hard to believe 89mph getting 206 yards carry. Great video just numbers don’t add up and I’m confident you don’t carry 7iron 203 average. Good review, very professional presentation 👍
I'd like to see iron comparisons of "old vs new" when the same lofts are used. Not the 7 or 8 iron, but just the lofts - apples to apples. It seems the number designation doesn't mean anything now, but the lofts don't change.
GSM can’t always be done when manufacturers change lofts
@@MichaelNewtonGolf Use different manufactures. Compare any 33 or 32 loft against anyone else's. Then see who's club performs best.
Its kinda funny, Mizuno has to be the only irons in the golf that never gets trash talked. Theres like a universal agreement amongst all of us, lol. Quite rare nowadays.
Only thing I can think is that they're just so understated. Not a lot of hoopla or crazy claims. It's nice to know what you're in for.
Looking at these two clubs: is there any boron in the 921 or is it just chromoly? Is that the biggest change?
Having recently replaced my 900 Forged with i210's (wanted the MP20 but couldn't argue with the numbers) the question is are the 921's good enough to pull me back into the Mizunos.....confused
David I replaced my Callaway CBs with the I210s, and I love them. If you have i210 you probably aren't chasing extra distance, spin and control are way more important. 200 yard 7 iron spinning 5200 isn't what I want at all. Also, 200 yard 7 iron (mine goes 178 as it is) just means another wedge, and bigger gaps. What's the point? They are beautiful though!
Thanks mike just got the 919 lol 😂
Same.....But, I still have this little voice in the back of my head saying "wondering if they will be better and I'm missing out!"
I wanted to buy the 919 Forged when I changed my clubs last year but the blade length was just a bit too much for my eye (and i210s performed noticeably better in my hands) so I am a bit disappointed that the 921 appears to have the same blade length
921 blade length is shorter
Unfortunate they did not keep the lefty version. They would have already sold a set... i have the 919 but really like the sleeker look of 921
Which shaft are you using my swing speed is about the same as yours with the 7 iron
Modus 120
The Standard Deviation of the 921 is smaller across the board compared to the 919. The 921 is a much more consistent club.
from 5 shots. do that test again tomorrow and it could be the other way round, its not a big enough sample size to draw conclusions.
How would you compare the 921 forged to the apex pro 19s?
Tough one
Tell us shaft information used in the review.
1:47 wow the new hosel is way longer
On the ground side by side which is which?
Hi Michael, how did you average 186 yards carry with the 921 forged in your first video but 200 yards carry in your second video?
You might have missed it on the first video but I did mention I had a poor ball striking day on the review, much better in the comparison video.
@@MichaelNewtonGolf oh ok. Thanks for responding! Great reviews as always. Love the channel.
Good review. But your club head speed is a lot faster with the 921. ??
GSM yes, explained that in the video. No reason for it as shaft was same, length etc. Just felt more confident with the 921
@@MichaelNewtonGolf Makes sense to me. Can you do a loft to loft comparison. Some 7 irons are 33 and some are 28. I'd like to see a 33 to 33 test.
Can’t always be done, moving lofts more than 2 degrees affects bounce too much.
Why are you hitting the 919 a good 20 yards longer with slightly slower clubhead speed vs. the earlier reviews you posted on the 919 Forged? Is this a difference in launch monitor or other conditions? Reviews are great; very informative!
Guess I'll stick with the 919 forged cause Mizuno didn't make the 921 forged for left hand.
I’m a leftie as well I’m trying to buy 919s off eBay because you can’t get them any more and I don’t want to buy 921 hot metal. They’re huge
Fantastic reviews!
I’m torn between the 921 tour and the 921 forged. I love the looks of the tour but I know the forged would be better for my game aha. Trying to drop into a 5 handicap next year. What’s your opinion?
Get a mixed set: tours in the short irons; forged in the long irons. That is, create a set for yourself. Maybe use the SEL set as an example!
Ed Gamble I wish it would come with a 6 iron in the forged as well. Looking at my Arccos data my weakest part of my game is my approach game from 200 to 150 yards in terms of coming short (currently play MP60s)
Will get a good fitting in and give the SEL a try!
You can create any mixed set you want! 4-6 as ‘forged’; 7-GW as ‘tour’. The SEL set is pre-packed for lefties with 4-5 in ‘forged’ and with custom (traditional) lofts!
I am a average iron player at BEST and I use the Tour 6-PW, and forged 4/5. My miss is always thin or heavy so no club can fix that. I actually prefer the smaller tour head, it makes me focus more. The forged is a little more forgiving but if you’re a decent player you should be able to combo easily. As long as you don’t hit the toe and heel constantly you should be fine
@@jackiechow860 I play of scratch using ping i25 irons and went for a fitting for new clubs. I hit 50 balls with the 919forged and 50 shots with the 919tour.... My ego said tour but the number were ridiculously overwhelming in favour of the forged...the decision was so clear in the end. I even tossed up getting a hot metal pro 4 iron as the forged only come 4-pw..... in the end I went with the 19clk hybrid and have never looked back... st200ts for the 3 wood was the club of choice even though I desperately wanted the taylormade sim but the Mizuno won in the end. Driver, tried the sim, maverick and Titleist but nothing compared to my existing Ping g400 so I kept my driver...hope that helps...
So there the same then 👍
Whoa! The 921 is long!!!!!
As an owner of the 919 Hot Metal Pros, who has bent most of my clubs 2 degrees weaker (7 iron stock was 30, now play at 32 degrees), I would say that looking at the 921 Forged, they have brought everything I like about the HM Pro (the stability frame), to the 921 Forged - and thus it is now the club for everyone. My issue is the ridiculous 31-degree standard 7 iron loft? WTF? You now have a 7 iron with a 6 iron loft that with 'tech' flies like a 4 iron - and your clubhead speed was 'only' 88mph
1 degree of loft is not going to mean an entire club difference....you swing fast and it looked like your center contact was much more square but 1 degree of loft isnt going to give u 5mph of ball speed
Time to replace my 900 forged
Selling? 4-P...what shaft/flex, the condition and how much?
I had one but sold to a close friend bc he liked it.. I got 919F..(love 900F better). Then my friend sold it a few weeks later. :(
@@Unplugged704 Thanks för asking but i am going to take them to spain and use them there so i don't have to take my golfbag on the plane back and twice a year, condition is very good
@@Unplugged704 Why do you prefer the JPX900 Forged over the JPX919 Forged?
500 less spin?
That may have seven stamped on it but that is a five iron no matter how you shake it up. Over 200 yds carry come on.
Did you trump on shot 4?
I trump on all shots, some are just louder than others.....
Glued in plastic inserts in the cavity really turn me off.
2.3 mph more club head speed. ???
Yes correct
Same shaft, same length
Should've redone the test as clearly you weren't loose when swinging the 919. The results are fairly useless. No reason whatsoever that the swing speeds should have this disparity.
I did mention in the video that I had warmed up.....did you miss that?
197 yards for a 7 iron? I’m not a bad player and I’m pretty long for an amateur. But you need to recalculate that machine. Your dreaming mate. That swing is not the swing of a 197 yard 7 iron. Even pros only average 165 to 175. The really big hitters maybe 180. Bryson can hit 200+ but he smashes the ball you can see the effort. Even Tiger can’t hit a 7 iron that far.
I guess you haven’t seen DJ hit 220 yd 7 irons with an effortless swing yet.
Matthew Costa that a 1% golfer
He got the 197 because of the strong loft.
It is pronounced chrome moly
That was making me cringe too