Idaho suspect is ‘different than most homicide offenders’: Former FBI profiler | ABCNL
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2023
- ABC News’ Linsey Davis spoke with former FBI profiler and ABC News contributor Brad Garrett about Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s profile and what may have led police to him.
ABC News Live Prime, Weekdays at 7EST & 9EST
WATCH the ABC News Live Stream Here: • LIVE: Latest News Head...
SUBSCRIBE to ABC NEWS: bit.ly/2vZb6yP
Watch More on abcnews.go.com/
LIKE ABC News on FACEBOOK / abcnews
FOLLOW ABC News on TWITTER: / abc
#universityofidaho #murders #suspect #BryanKohberger
I taught criminal law to criminal justice students for forty years. Over the years I had more than a few that were criminal personalities who enrolled in order to learn how to “beat the system”. Most of them dropped out resenting the underlying moral disapproval of crime inherent in the subject as they were criminals themselves aggrieved by the world. Read Yochelson and Samenov “The Criminal Personality “. This offender, while more intelligent than most, and narcissistic enough to think he could commit the perfect murder, was just another criminal himself.
He's dumber than most criminals, just slightly more educated. Most criminals wouldn't need a PhD in criminology to tell you that driving away in your own vehicle after a murder is stupid.
@@distantraveller9876 That part I just don’t understand if he was that smart and ran some whatif analysis. I heard the white elantra had a PA plate and was registered under his parents’ names. (May not be true) Perhaps he thought the car would not have been caught in any surveillance cameras but police found out about the car so he may have wanted to bring it to his parents’ house? But what about all the possible dna evidence left while he was committing the horrific murder? What made him look smart other than pursuing a PhD in criminology?
Do you think the hard work involved was also a factor in their decisions to drop out?
@@jiyeonkim9862he’s book smart not street smart big difference
@@distantraveller9876well said , doesn’t take a genius to say don’t drive your car there & back.
Don’t hide evidence & trophies in your apartment. Clean your search engines , hard disk drive & cloud .
Don’t talk you phone stalking victim or to the crime scene.
Don’t wear gloves afterwards draw attention to you already weird behaviour.
What genius!!
I think the public is very very lucky that the FBI recognized that this murderer was very dangerous, and needed to be found before he had another opportunity. And they ran familial DNA testing. Phew. That's pretty uncommon for new active cases.... But it was a good call. This dude wasn't going to stop and he was a massive danger to society. High five to law enforcement this time! (Not every time.. but this time, they did amazing fast & effective work)
Absolutely
That is what I said. The way he did this crime said he liked killing and would do it again.
LOL 😂, the FBI had Intel on the Boston bom..... bers and did nothing. Just like they had Intel on many of the mass shooters. So I wouldn't be putting the FBI up on the pedestal. And I really find it funny that you would think that the public didn't already know that this guy was dangerous.
@@debrarolland1704 and killing 4 young active students isn't easy. And having 2 living victims hear nothing is scary... They knew this wasn't a good person to leave out in society, or they'd keep finding bodies. That's how I feel about this one, and whoever profiled this guy was on point. It may be luck but thank goodness for it!
I hear he was happily giving out As to his students after the killings. He was on Cloud 9 - that's not a good sign. Someone who felt guilt would be drowning in depression. It's a good thing he's behind bars awaiting trial.
FAST JOB IS NOT ALWAYS A GOOD JOB
That serial killer comment is so true- I wouldn’t be surprised if he was planning to do this again or has already done this before
@@distantraveller9876 trueeee! So wild of him to go all out of his first murder and kill 4 people- it’s like he wanted to get caught
@@distantraveller9876 agree!
Did he do it, why you think so ?
You know more ?
@@lucasrem They found his DNA at the crime scene. They have video of him circulating around the area many times in his car that evening and prior to the murders. They have cell phone data to back up where he was as well.
You have no idea what his motive was for this crime, so there’s absolutely no evidence that he’d done this before or would do this again. Your comments are pointless until we find out the motive for this crime.
I was afraid they would never get the person who did this and the case would remain cold. But thank God like a New Year miracle, they caught him and he will face justice what he did. He probably honestly believed he could get away with the perfect murder... he thought wrong. Those poor kids didn't deserve this. He ruined so many lives especially the victims' families. They literally just celebrated the holidays without them. Imagine how painful that must have been for them.
You sure it’s him?
Innocent till proven guilty?
Never had a doubt that a suspect would be apprehended, although innocent until proven guilty. This type of crime will have some sort of DNA evidence. It was just a matter of time.
@@Hunee- His DNA was found on the knife found at crime scene. Read in one of the news. He is for sure guilty, just the matter of proving it in court.
This case has those earmarks too practice patience. Unfortunately, Justice as other cases, where any defense was void, make a mockery and should be recognized as such !
He's destroyed his own family
True that but let's be honest, he did much worse to four other families.
He has more juice than OJ Simpson...
Just he
Who cares! 4 less MAGA fascists!
He killed four people.
What the hell was wrong with this guy ? It is so sad that 4 young people lost their lives because of this stupid guy
Any punishment will be not enough for him
He's a psychopath, that's what. Rare, but out there. Just furthering his training at WSU. He'll likely get the death penalty in Idaho.
He is a sociopath. These people are like reptiles. About one person in 40 is a sociopath...and about 1 in 40 sociopaths become serious/violent criminals. They have no empathy. They are not capable of it.
He is not stupid, he was a student for an advanced degree. However, he is obviously very disturbed. Reading about how he behaved in jail, I would label him crazy, and of course evil. Just a laymans opinion.
Lol easy there, turbo... the guy is anything BUT stupid, if he's guilty
He is a incel
From a criminologist to a criminal 🥺🥺 those kids didn't deserve that
and those murdered by cops don' deserve to brutalize by those supposed to protect and serve us.
@ቬ Cry baby black. Your "community" is rotten to the core.
Intelligent. Confident. Good upbringing. Decent family.
These things do not take away that he has been arrested for a gruesome crime that stole 4 lives.
I understand he was interested in studying why people offend, but I can't understand why he would want to commit such a gruesome crime. It's just disgusting.
Psychopaths exist.
Because hearing stories from others won’t make you understand what it means to be a psycho.
@@remasteredretropcgames3312 maybe, but not all psychopaths are murderers.
I’m very interested in criminology due to my grandfather being a detective. I would never and could never even fathom doing anything even close to that. Lots of people are interested in crime so just due to percentages some are going to be sick like this guy.
@California DreamingMost psychopaths are not criminally violent , usually . They lie ,steal, manipulate ,com etc., but not usually this stuff. They are amongst us I'm every capacity : doctors, lawyers ,cops. etc ..In fact , they are more prevalent than people realize, comprising about 1 in 8 people we encounter. The prisons are about 20% psychopaths. I guess there a lot of bad people that do stuff, but have a conscience ..Kohberger is probably part of what they call the dark triad, which Is Machiavellian complex, narcissism ,and psychopathy .
no wonder he did so well in college....he was being tested literally on his own thoughts! those answers mustve come easy!
Suffice it to say he failed the study.
@@StevenMichaelCunningham exactly
@@greenjupiter 🤔😶😶🌫️😅✨
Dude probably thought he could be the next zodiac with a criminology degree. Most forensics/criminology/criminal justice degrees are joke programs designed to teach high school students who are largely weak in math and science. People wanna make him seem as if he has inside knowledge on committing crime, but any dolt who studied criminal justice would know how sloppy knife homicides are.
That’s so creepy
Watch his eyes.
Condolences to the families,may the victims rest when justice is served.
Justice served ? This country’s legal system is a joke…… hes gonna get 3 meals a day. And cable tv. In a arabic. Country. They would have cut his head off….. and not waste millions of dollars. On a bs. Trial. Theres a reason. In arabic countries there crime rate is % is 5. They dont play there……. In this country. You can murder someone and get away with it. ( oj Simpson). ( caceee Anthony). (Killed her child). Got away with it !! Parkland school shooter. Shot and killed more then 14 people. Hes in jail getting 3 meals a day…. This country legal system is. A joke ✅
He has evil eyes. It’s like looking at satan
Eyes of evil
You know nothing of true evil.
@Joseph Aulisio wow so deep bro, wow you're so cool. Fucking dork
This is how to flush your parent's hard earned money down the drain and ruin their lives, as well as the victims and families. What an utter waste. So very sad and heartbreaking.💔
Likely took the gamble as a murder for hire.
@@studiosinger why you say that?
Because he's a dipshit.
Criminals are issued from outrageously abusive families.
@@ingefriedbianca unless you’re a psychopath
Imagine the dad on that ride actually having traces of victim's blood on his shoes as a result of his son's actions unbeknownst to him is heartbreaking
"having traces of victim's blood on his shoes" reminds me of the "Craigslist killer", who wore shoes with blood on them from one of his victims to a police interview.
Where did this comment come from?
Interesting thought
@@eugenieroyce3312 right? its really random
Dang, that was deep.
He's not going to be a "different" offender before a judge and jury!
Happened to Casey Anthony and OJ…. Let’s hope this is different
If the case is strong this is not going to be another Casey Anthony.
@S Sing the OJ case got side tracked by the racist cop that somehow found dna where nobody else had. And then the expert said that the bloods splatter didnt make any sense. Toooooo and very important, im sure the whole part of Nicole sleeping with some random dude played a role into it.
Considering the lack of evidence i think he has an even better case than casey anthony.Hopefully they find some dna in his car or phone records or smth...
As determined by a real judge and jury as opposed to internet comments - he may or may not be found guilty at all.
To those trying to Understand .
We never understand what we are not !
Got news for you- we are and continue to be for a long, long, long time.
Wouldn't it be creepy if he actually wanted to get caught? Like he was more interested in seeing if he can win in court. I'm glad the investigators kept everything quiet for a bit. And I hope they have all the evidence they need for a conviction.
I feel they would not arrest him at all unless they felt their case was very strong- strong enough to convict.
My thoughts exactly.
@@ktkt1825 Jack's point is that idea that maybe he WANTED to get caught. Like a businessman that WANTED to fail. I worked for two of them.
@@louisliu5638 Yes, I see Jack's idea. I don't think he wanted to get caught, though. I believe his preoccupation with killing came before all his studies- immersion only fueled it. He attempted to evade in many ways, but made several significant (rookie) mistakes.
I spoke to a cop once in South Africa. He told me that he can't believe how often criminals leave identifying information at a crime scene. I'm not talking about a tiny amount of DNA found by an expert either. They often left their ID book at the scene of the crime. In SA you get an Identification book when you turn 16. Very much like leaving your passport at the scene of the crime in the US. The cop said it wasn't even rare.
I don't know if he's guilty or innocent but he's already been tried and convicted in the court of mass media and public opinion.
Thats a free country! He'll have a trial & jury so why all the fuss?
Andrew Z * exactly
@@wqv5423ln Free? Where?
@@nillyk5671 the USA
Sorry but that court of public opinion argument is meaningless. People posting on social media will not send this guy to death row. The jury will look at evidence and testimony. And as in a huge majority of cases this is what will guide them as they decide on a verdict.
Actually and unfortunately murderers and serial killers are not always the stereo types that people believe they are. These are the murders that go unsolved.
Like Bundy this guy was incredibly lucky: two others in the same house kept sleeping.
If this guy turns out to be innocent he should receive a billion dollars for the slander. Dude hasn't been found guilty yet.
Just like OJ. 😄😄😄
What's with men all over the comments insinuating that he may be innocent? You've got this complex that all men are wrongly accused of crimes. Bet you think all men accused of rape are innocent, too.
I’m not sure if Bryan truly understood how widely covered this crime was going to be. It’s the kind that everyone is going to remember for the rest of their lives.
I’m sure that was his intention
That’s probably what he wanted unfortunately.
This is the life of social media and then internet… and mixed with a very attractive woman 😂😂😂. That’s the only reason this became so big. If it was some ho bums it would have been forgotten in a couple weeks
Na I'll definitely forget about this for years and years to come till it pops back up on my TH-cam. It really wasn't that bad of a case compared to other serial killers. Not saying it wasn't gruesom
You would be surprised how many people have never even heard of the Idaho killings.
I feel bad for the dad who flew out to Washington because he just wanted to help his son get home for the holidays.
can you even imagine? the poor father's slow realization of what is happening?
probably originally happy to have the family together for the holiday
@@sdriza i feel bad for his wholr family
Id like to think his dad started with a fear that turns out into suspicion once he flew and met the suspect. Paternal instinct always matters. I bet the dad has had it in mind but was just afraid to ask the son whether he was involved. For some reason it didnt take time the father knew.
@@sdrizathey're not realizing anything. The family thinks they have the wrong guy
Nope, he's the mind control daddy, all planned, fathers are the head of cia families and the programmers.
Imagine if this dude is completely innocent and they have the wrong man
Very possible. Cops nowadays are like keystone cops. Many are stooges.
I doubt he will be able explain how his DNA was found on a knife sheath on a victim's bed at the crime scene.
@@ktkt1825 It could have easily been planted. It makes no real sense how it got there anyways. Did he carry it around in his hand after each killing? Give me a break!
@@kultofbunnyplease tell the class who it could have been planted by? like you sound really slow right now 💀
@@kultofbunnyand it wasn't just the knife sheath that placed him at the crime scene. common sense is not common
The deadness of his eyes screams PSYCOPATH 😱 to me!!
He’s probably not different than most. He’s just an angry, rejected man, with too much pent up anger -dime a dozen.
Pretty sure he’s different than most
@@k.t.8537 No, you can trust someone, on youtube, name fartemis fartmelloweater.
@@user-zv7lm8uk7h😂😂
Sigh, can the FBI put this guy on their radar? Empathy with serial killers on youtube is a clear red sign.
@@kandykaye9981 why do you hope not????
Does this guy sound a bit like Steve Carell or am I way off?
Omg Youre right it's Michael Scott
Don't drop the soap Bryan !
Yeaaah😲
Hear it. Michael in a corner
Wait…what!? 🫢
Lol yes
I can’t imagine what his family must be going through right now. I suspect many sleepless nights await. My heart goes out to them.
Who cares about his family?! You sound ridiculous
They are behind him, It appears they believe him.
No winners here, except for him. If he did it he imagined if he got caught. He has no idea. Life over for him too.
His family seems suspicious actually. The dad, mom, sister, have done some weird stuff
what about the families of the victims?
My Heart Breaks for the 4 lost there life by this guy and My Deep Condolences to the family of the 4 life's taken too soon.
I hope he tells the truth and pray he gets life or the death chair when he is found guilty
Innocent until proven guilty...
Our farts and dares go out to all of the idiots in the TH-cam comment section... 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♀️🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♀️
Unfortunately they use the chair there anymore but I hope they don't have stupid jorors like the Casey Anthony case 2 of the jurors were morons!
Depending on how Liberal the state is. They may not have the death penalty because it is “cruel” well what about the victims pain and suffering
He is being tried in a pro death penalty state...If found guilty I hope he gets it...BECAUSE it will hopefully send a message to others ..I feel sad for his family ...this is horrific for many people
Kohberger is disturbingly calm. I think an innocent person would be screaming "I am innocent"!
In his graduation video, he's emotionless as he collects his diploma. Everyone else is smiling.
Sociopaths generally have low emotional connections. Riding across the country with good old dad, after what he'd done? No emotion... sociopath.
Right. I would be telling the cameras I DIDN’T DO IT! You’ll see!!
He’s guilty as sin by that walk.. you don’t act that way if you literally didn’t do it. You’d be shaking your head and making statements
We're all different in our reactions. His reaction doesn't mean anything. There is no "set way" that people should react.
@@josephgriffin2388you don’t know he did anything.
This is what happens when you focus too much on the wrong thing. You start to become it
Very wise point
How many children are abused by church men?
@@skaetur1 up in the millions, truly disgusting
@@skaetur1 who says church is good
I disagree to an extent. His predilection to want to do others harm for his own internal reasons came first. It seems more rare that an alledged offender of this type would have this level of degrees in criminal justice. Not even Ted Bundy was a post grad. student. ( Chicken or egg)?
He not only shamed his family he destroyed a community
DANG!!! He’s a freaking celebrity now. He’s going to have marriage proposals and book deals, have his case in every law enforcement training class. The list goes on and on.
Cant have a book deal
The judge in the Ted Bundy case said he was an intelligent young man and could have really accomplished something with his life had he chosen to go down a different path. It seems like something that could be so similar with him having been so well educated and so much going for himself. And it's almost hard to imagine he would have done something like this.
The problem I believe is that serial killers and mass murderers are being glorified. These people have some sizable amounts of followers and they just love the fame. Saw a true crime episode recently of two young brothers, who murdered almost their whole family, and were set killing more people, but were caught before they could carry out their plan. Police interviews show no remorse and court appearances show revelling in the attention. Their aim was to be the worst and most famous offenders. For them, that is the accomplishment. It’s years later and we are still talking about Ted Bundy. The Netflix series on Jeffrey Dahmer was one of the highest streamed of 2022.
I don’t know what motivated Kohlenberger, he appears to be very stoic, but this is case is garnering worldwide coverage, and you just wonder is this what he wanted and sadly, who else is being influenced by this. He didn’t have to sell anything, he didn’t have to build up years of gaining followers, it’s instant fame/notoriety.
Having intelligence and academic ability doesn’t protect people from being a narcissistic douchebag.
Doesn’t matter. They have the gene to kill. Why do you think most of us don’t walk around killing people. Because we have no urge. Tendencies. Thoughts to. Idealizations…
@@buggyboogle9 The fact there is a successful show about Jeffrey Dahmer says it all. I was at an optical store where the associate said their most popular request is for Dahmer style glasses! 😖
@@buggyboogle9 The problem is some states have no death penalty
This is a lesson to humanity. Evil hides in power, religion, education and a cause, Be viligiant!
Very good point, all information provided so far is from government officials and wannabe rich. No actual evidence only proof and there is a very significant amount of difference between those 2 words. Idaho is not in anyway up to grade to handle a case of this magnitude and will be swinging in the dark trying to get people to think otherwise
Well he took that criminology class to the next level.
Method Learning
hands on research
Who cares! 4 less MAGA fascists!
No longer needs to wonder how it feels.
The killers and criminals called him a poser. Now he fo real
Now, they need to find out if this was the first time he committed murder.
Yes, that is no doubt being investigated. Other police departments and the FBI will be looking through their unsolved cases. I have a bad feeling he might have committed other murders.
The way he nonchalantly went about his life after doing something so gruesome. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s unalived animals in the past or even unalived another person prior to this that haven’t been discovered.
Criminals do not have a normal brain the brain and the mind are the same thing we learn that from E equals MC2 their brains are obviously physically deformed that's why their minds don't work it's part of the dark matter that's in the universe.
They are unable to distinguish between good and evil they live only by their instincts they're not capable of thinking yeah they can read a book memorize what they read and pass the test that's asking questions about the book you read and you could get a phd but it doesn't mean you're intelligent doesn't mean you're smart.
Intelligence is manifested in kindness understanding empathy compassion These things are attributes of God.
I think I watched a video from a news group; not sure, but they said he is in a cell with someone or another prisoner asked him some questions about it. The prisoner asked why he did it. His response was; "I didn't do it" He has not appeared to be distraught, scared or effected by his arrest in any way.
after hearing this discussion, criminology is quite interesting not only that suspect doesn't strike me as a murderer goes to show you anybody can be anybody
I really hope this isn't a casey anthony case again.... We all know she did it, common sense wise. But physical evidence wasn't there, or at least the way it was presented. She would've been convicted of something if the lawyers had given the jurors more options.
don't worry- they've got the goods on him and he'll be found guilty.
@@rowyourboat5361 you don't know that stop it.
The problem with the Casey Anthony case is there was no crime scene no DNA evidence, it had been so long before they discovered her body the prosecution is left with not much but computer searches and her lack of reporting/ habitual lying to build a case
nah, hes done for. they didnt arrest him on a whim. sounds like they have dna, matching car. even a probable motive with his major and study....its over for him.
@@scorch4299 They didn't arrest Casey on a whim either. But too much got out and so much time had went by she had time to build a case. Hes waiving extradition to be able to find out what they have against him.
Hes enjoying this. He went to school for this, this is what hes wanted all his life.
I wonder how he did it "alone" doing it in one go to 4 people. That's unbelievable.
Dude's a literal monster, apparently Kaylee was nearly beheaded...):
@@stasiasfriend he really is a monster. That's horrible.
And in only 20 minutes
It is not shocking at all don't trust anyone still holds true no matter how the world may change we all should be scared to live in this dangerous world condolences to the family
He probably wanted to play a game of cat and mouse, testing himself against law enforcement. Probably thought that he was intelligent enough to get away with it and the scary part is that he knew the system worked cause he majored in it
did he do it ?
CIA people needed a guy ...?
I agree. The guy took criminology to get away with the murders. He probably was already nuts before he started studying it.
Some author or authors are already writing a book about him smh . Crazy world
😄
Anything for clout and $...hate this world
We’ll prolly not a renowned author. You mean a self published Amazon title 😂😂😂
If not. I guess they deserve the credit if they are really through in the research and development of the book and people buy it. Tons of books on killers…
What is smh? Suck My Hass?
I'm wondering what role the dad played in this? I think he was involved. When the son was arrested he asked if anyone else had been arrested...very strange question...and the dad was with him in the getaway car.
If “ in order to think like a criminal you must become a criminal “ was a person
This dude didn’t lack intelligence he lacked human emotion.
Gotta admit though that the way he carried out those crimes lacked intelligence. No one with any crime smarts is going to leave a knife sheath behind at the scene of the crime because it could possibly implicate him. But he did and it did implicate him. You would think that he would know that but obviously didn't. So now his life, like the others he took away, is essentially over.
@@8176morgan he did it to get caught trust me for him it’s about Being seen
@@Plane-tw9xz Could be he subconsciously felt a lot of guilt and thus made sure he would get caught. It has happened before -many, many, times.
@@8176morgan yep agreed what I don’t understand is why he went through all those years of college and graduated then just decided to murder 4 kids? Makes 0 sense to me at app
@@Plane-tw9xz Not to you, nor me, nor the multitude of people who have become fascinated by this case. Hopefully, the truth will come out if he is found guilty and makes a full confession, perhaps as a plea bargain in order to avoid the death penalty.
Do you think he was interested in killing before his criminology education, or could his criminology education have acted as a catalyst for that behavior?
Plenty of criminology students out there don't commit crimes.
Both
Sublimation
@@beckiehastings1589 That you know of . Maybe they’re just better than this dude at getting away with it lol Jk jk
“Interested in killing”??? This guy has most likely already killed before!!
Hopefully, his Dad will tell us the stops along the way, the possible dumping sites for murder weapon.
I’m fairly certain this guy attended a party at the house where he committed the murders, was rejected by one of the occupants and then came back for his revenge. He seems to have had a track record of rejection from women so he probably snapped.
He’s different because he’s doing his research for his criminology
So many of them have law enforcement ties or fantasies. Plus Ted bundy was also a law student. He more typical than different.
@@snortypig596 yes, exactly. You will find that a lot of these murderers tried for a career in LE. Many can’t get past the psych eval and end up working in security.
he will have an opportunity to further his studies in prison. He would be fascinating to study
@@nenamichelle Exactly, many LE applicants are found to have ASPD and rejected. So they get security jobs.
@@atheistbewildered2987 yes!
this case being covered nationwide right now. good luck in finding impartial jury
🤷♂️ I could listen to evidence objectively and make an impartial decision
I’m from Idaho and I could be impartial. I want the facts. And we don’t have the true facts because the case hasn’t been presented.
Nah, Depp v Heard proved to me that it doesn’t matter how much one side has been in the media, jury can always be fair.
It has crossed my mind, would he get a fair trail.
@@PuffKitty well right now, just saying your innocent until proven guilty, gets the public angry, in this case.
The prisoner on death row was pretty accurate in his assessment of this guy !
Who would spend 4 days and $1.2K in gas to drive 2500 miles to return home for Christmas?
I wonder if he was one of those "I can commit a perfect murder" kind of guys. If so,I didn't work out very well.
if he was in criminology, youd think hed know about geneology testing and know that he cant afford to leave any dna... he obv wasnt that careful...and even if he leaves some by accident , set the place on fire.. jesus this kids an amateur!
@@scorch4299 or he has cooked up some other explanation for the DNA he intends to use
This guy was asking to get caught so much for him pursuing his degree all for that to just go to waste
My Guess
1. He had a connection with girl.
2. He got rejected by her.
3. He targetted her for revenge by stalking.
4. He planned and done with cold blooded.
5. Others are collatoral damages.
6. He dont have any shame.
7. DNA , Cellphone signal and data on phones Girls , his computer ,cellphone and camera is the evidance.
It seem my guess was right
Nobody has ever called me brilliant, but even I know my cellphone tracks my every move. PhD candidate, huh?
It’s so odd that all the reports are ignoring the detail that there was a surviving roommate left alive in the house.
I didn't know that
🤣🤣
interesting note:
that car had a pennsylvania license plate on the night of the murders.
he didn't register the hyundai in washington state until november 18th.
just another weird detail in this crime. 🤔
Hmmmm weird. Thanks for the info
Damn it !! That's proves right there it's not him or the correct car if what you say is the truth 🙄💔🙏
@@Whitedove6 it originally had Pennsylvania plates the night of the murder . On his way back to Pennsylvania him and his dad were pulled over 2 times . On 12/18 I believe he changed the plates and registered them in Washington!!! That right there is suspicious
@@Whitedove6 the news team looked up the plate number and then got the vin number on car fax and it showed his car had Pennsylvania plates up until 12/18 ? Why all the sudden change plates when he got back to Pennsylvania to Washington plates
@@Whitedove6 vin says its the right car
My thoughts and prayers to all the Family members. It seems the dirt-bag got his sick thinking from a Hollywood script, the killer student becomes fixed on the thoughts of a murderer just plain sick
I feel like they are making a mob of us....
Still innocent till proven guilty. I'm curious how this is going to play out if he pleads not guilty.
No words can describe the pain this has caused us. I couldn’t take this how someone can have nerve to stab innocent ppl when they are completely helpless.
RIP for the lost souls and may justice prevail. I🖤🖤💔💔
“Us”. There were four people who were stabbed to death. We are not one of them
Separate reality with idealizations….
@@ssing7113haha. You already said what I came to say. Good on you mate! Lol.
@@WrathofArminius no frs. It hurts US to see innocent people die, nothing compares to the pain THEY went thru and their family are going thru.
@@ericaasantos-tello7937 ok. You’re an empath probably. I won’t ruin that. Right on Erica. Don’t be jaded like me.
@@ericaasantos-tello7937 … Frs means for reals?… cuz I had to look it up, and it gave me Federal Reserve System, and Forces Retaliation Squad… and those don’t make sense so I sounded it out… phonetically… furrrrzzz. Furrrrealzzz?… dunno.
this dude sounds exactly like Steve Carell
I was thinking the same thing!
How was he able to murder four people and know one tried to fight this guy. Four people in one house at the same time. No noise? No screams? No yells for help? Nothing to alarm anyone? I feel for their families at this time. The heart of man is inherently wicked and evil!
He was probably a highly socially functioning psychopath, and they figured because he looked like a normal guy that he was "harmless", he probably said/did a few things that were odd in retrospect that they overlooked because they assumed he wasn't capable of a crime like this.
These Public ancestry DNA database stuff is getting a little scary. Especially since we have to pay a company so they can sell it or give it to the police. This should be a big point in the case as to the legality of this practice. Not to say I'm defending any sort of criminal this catches but if we give the powers that be too much leeway with this stuff they'll start using it in ways we may not be able to predict.
what if the culprit is his uncle, or his cousin (same DNA ancestry); who happened to have borrowed the car? what are the odds?
They found a murderer after years because his great niece or someone did that DNA testing
@@audreyheart2180 I'm sure by now they've had him submit a DNA sample that probably matched what they found at the scene. More to my point when I was a child my parents worked at our states crime lab where their role was to institute the new CODIS Database in our state and I remember them being upset calling it useless because it only works if you've been caught before. With people giving away their DNA the easier it is for the system to catch you. Right now its used on criminals but there's no telling who'll it'll be used against next. The worry is not so much the uncertainty of using DNA to place someone somewhere it's more do we really want the government to have the power to tell where you've been by a hair left behind. (even though they can already do that with phones lol)
@@MyStupified it depends on all of us.. if we (majority and the elites) act out of fear - then it's all downhill - for planting evidence.. if we act out of love - then it's all uphill - for identifying missing loved ones - for catching unidentifiable/ uncatchable/ untouchable/ unbelievable criminals...
Apparently cheney and bush families really n truely believe their. Blood lines are special, different, and better and therefore they're ok to create a coup using mormons and they're supposed to be in charge of all our
money while all become povertised.
This was grem of idea behind the DNA tests.
I love how the media is so involved in helping people formulate an opinion. Like they are soooooooo good at. Like everybody says good luck finding an impartial jury at this point.
I mean look at how big of a media circus the Casey Anthony trial was & they still found her innocent… even though she wasn’t. 🤷♀️ anything could happen!! You would be surprised how many people don’t even know this happened. I’m in southeastern idaho and half the time when I mention anything about it nobody even knows what I am talking about.
Bro. His literal fucking dna is all over the crime scene. That’s all a jury will need at this point.
Just because YOU can't be impartial because YOU heard something said by someone who doesn't have all of the facts does NOT mean that other people have the same issues as YOU do. There are lots of us that do not automatically believe things we hear other people say without proof that what they are saying is true.
Oddly enough you can put crime all over the news and some people still voted for Donald Trump and Casey Anthony is partying it up with her Netflix money... So I believe in humanity being generally impartial.
Jury selection is intense. Bias can exist in a lot more than your media exposure. If you've been a victim of violent crime, you could have a bias, for example. There's a lot of factors to consider, and 2 sides of highly trained lawyers to figure it out.
I have said this many times - media blabs too much, conjures up scenarios - many times Silence is Golden
His attorney said earlier that Kohberger traveled to PA around Dec 17... I'd love to know whether that cross country trip was really pre planned a long time ago as his attorney stated. His attorney would have taken Bryan's father's word for that - there would be no reason for him to try to verify what his client told him, and it would actually be inappropriate to attempt to verify what Bryan's father told him to be true...
The notice by police regarding wanting any information on a white Hyundai Elantra was put out on Dec 7. By Dec 17, Bryan was traveling across the country to PA. From my understanding he was going to return to WA for his studies. His apartment still had all his belongings so it doesn't appear he was going to move back to PA..?? Why would he drive across the country to see his family, when he would most certainly still need a car in WA? He would then have to drive it back across the country again, to WA, when he returned for school - likely by himself this time. Would have so much easier, and likely less expensive, to fly back to PA. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and makes it appear as if the father flew out to WA to help him drive back to PA - within days of the police posting their notice on the white Hyundai Elantra... Just seems a bit suspicious....
On an somewhat unrelated note, I also would wonder whether the two stops by the police in Indiana were random - hard to believe this wasn't related to LE tailing him on the trip back to PA...??
Perhaps Dad helped with the clean up ?
Yeah, twice doesn't seem like a coincidence, does it?! I'm sure the undercover FBI agents had something to do with that as a way to see what was going on inside the vehicle.
It seems everyone is just going along with what his attorney said, when the fact is that the date on the cop cam stop in Indiana is Dec 15! They were already half way home to PA by then. Google Maps show Pullman-Moscow Airport to Scranton PA as 220 HOURS drive time! That's nearly 9 full Days IF to never stop or sleep. I think they got out of dodge by the very next day that LE was publicly announcing that they were looking for that Elantra!
What? It's not 220 hours of drive time! It's a two day drive. Look it up again.
@@TShirtAndReeboks Oops. I guess I was imagining him taking a bicycle. 🤣
the work of all the police and the FBI is extraordinary! I hope this brings some peace to families
I got a feeling they stopped a potential very dangerous serial killer.
I'm not entirely sure as it's still early in his case, but they are looking at an unsolved murder case of a couple in Oregon that happened last year. His student apartment is also close by to that location where they were found. At this point, he 'could' already have been a serial killer. But only time will tell if they're able to tie any evidence back to him.
@@hazell5457 yeah... I mean "until proven guilty"... You're right. Let's see
Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder how much attention such criminals get as compared to other 'news', including wars, weather calamities, major human crises...many maybe opting for such crimes that put the spotlight on them and that too in a HUGE way, where so many other people like media, police, legal system get working from where the criminal left off!
In journalism, this would be known as a "human interest story", as well as actual news. It's like the trapped coal miners, or the little kid fell down the well......they are stories which appeal to humans for the drama and uncertainty and horror.
Morbid curiosity
Lets.. talk.. climate change!!
"You look into the abyss and the abyss looks into you." This is a classic NETFLIX movie in real-time; the kid studied crime and became a criminal.
Yeah.That is why,God said.Get away from the presence of Satan.
@@jessebenitez210 ❤ SO TRUE; we're in such a bonehead society where people don't "believe" in God; its not not believing the Sun is shining during daytime--the Sun is shining and God and Satan exists regardless whether or not you believe. The Rules will Always apply. Thanks Jesse.
2:04 this dude looks like a professional bank robber 😂😂
Defense attorneys will question from contamination of the crime scene to DNA procedures
Finding it so odd that these accused murderers have so much protection on and around them.
This is to prevent a Jack Ruby/Oswald type of situation where the new murderer acquires notoriety while talking of his rage/anger as motive, and the police are left looking stupid/complicit/ill-prepared. The suspect is also being guarded against suicide attempts because there is a huge WHY/how in the killings. Huge resources have been expended in the investigation so far, and this protection cost is minor in comparison
Protection? He was arrested. What do you mean?
I don't adhere to the innocent till proven guilt' but suspend belief of either till all possible evidence is examined--- dissmissing evidence for fear of incrimination--all must be exposed to examination--especially for the benefit of the Jury.
@0:37 I'm not sure where this man is , but I find the haphazard display of pictures, etc. behind him to be a little odd.
Horrible what he did but it is also strange he had so much knowledge about crimes, he is sooo intelligent but then it seems he committed a very "easy to find out" crime. I would expect from someone with so much knowledge to never been found.
Despite all of his learning, this loser ends up with a big fat F in criminology and in life, in general.
my wife has this great saying about very intelligent people: "you can be a genius all your life, but INCREDIBLY STUPID for just one moment". In this case, however, he had to plan ahead and then BE REALLY STUPID.
He doesn't have any scratches. He hanging with his dad. He drives a super common car. He has a cellphone.
It strikes me that the various law enforcement agencies and the media should be EXTREMELY careful about 'convicting' him as the killer before his trial. Do we want this whole thing to end up in a mistrial? Choose words carefully people!
We all know he'll get trial by jury! Why all the panic?
SHUT - UP!
That’s why a gag order was issued
@@julesjay424 besides, plenty of people don’t obsessively follow true crime 🤷♀ if you’ve seen the traffic bodycam footage, it’s looking like BK injured his right hand/wrist during the attack… won’t be hard to convince a jury that the guy whose blood is on the victims is the attacker.
@@innocentnemesis3519 it definitely looks like there are injuries to his hand. 100% agree. Judge issued a GAG Order. So idk how much we are really going to find out
We may find out what reason he had for chosing these 4 people, and why the other two people "slept through" the murdering.
WOW. It almost sounds like they arrested someone with VERY LITTLE TO NO EVIDENCE and are now TRYING TO FABRICATE A STORY around their NON-EXISTENT motive in order to say that they “got the guy” and “put an end to the story”
How convenient. Sad for this man who’s going to be incarcerated for the rest of their life just to bring a sense of comfort to the victims’ families.
y'all want this to be an innocent man so bad 😭😭
Seems a bit odd that father never asked son "hey what were you doing in Idaho?" Especially after seeing all the news and police searching for white car
Who said the dad watched the news?what makes you believe the dad knew he was in idaho?
Didn't he go to grad school close to Moscow?
He lived in WA state, not Idaho. Why would his dad connect that?
Not odd at all. Washington State University is about 10 miles away from the crime scene.
@@RoadTripzz14 he ate at the diner and was stalking the girls for sure
Gonna have plenty of time writing his thesis in prison! He'll have all the time in the world to interview his fellow inmates and realize that he is one of the worst of them (not a compliment).
If he drove back across country with his father, then I would question and wonder if his father had any involvement with this homicide and escape for his son? 🤔
I can't believe no one is talking about the girl that died prior to the murders in that town. She was found dead under suspicious circumstances in a shallow river, her cause of death was drowning. I saw a video of the area they found her & it's definitely suspicious, the river isn't a large river, it's very narrow & shallow. They even said it was suspicious but it hasn't been investigated further.
If he is the confirmed killer, it'll be surprising because he'll be one of the few well educated murderers actually caught. People dissappear and are murdered every day and nobody is caught. These type of people exist and are very smart. 100% this isn't the first time this person committed a murder. This was too perfect and 4 people for your first? Nah, there would be more mistakes and the murderer wouldn't be that calm.
He can brag to Bubba his cell mate and the Grim Reaper when they fry his ass how "special" a killer he almost wuz! A LEGEND IN HIS OWN DEMENTED MIND!!
There was literally an episode of criminal minds where this happened.
He’s not been convicted of anything yet.
Bryan looks terrified. I hope they got the right guy. Let's see ALL THE EVIDENCE.
Oh Jesus, you probably think the vaccine is killing ppl too huh ?
he looks exactly like the person I thought he'd look like. I thought hed be a bit younger, but wasnt off by much.
@@scorch4299 I had no idea what the Suspect would look like. I just knew that it wasn't any of the Jack Guys and that he would be anywhere from 25-35 years old. That's the age group for most Serial Killers.
I hope to never experience the terror of these students or the pain and anger their families are experiencing. My heart breaks for them all.
Having said that, this suspect deserves due process and the best evidence. Back in 2015, I was stalked to my back yard and stabbed. I lost so much blood that my heart stopped. Were it not for a paramedic that arrived just in time, I'd be dead. My attacker collected samples from many pools I dripped and for the next few months planted my blood samples at various of his other violent crimes scenes. I had many field interviews with law enforcement. They were not amused. They did good, solid investigative work though and the bad guys suffered. If Bryan is our guy or if he conspired with the actual stabber, lets be rid of him and his co-conspirator(s). If this isn't our guy, we really really need to know that, too.
Really ? With that low key smirk ?
I’m interested to see what evidence they have against him. If the police got this wrong they have ruined this man’s life. Let’s hope they got this one right.
They got it right
What is so different than murder than is murder being protected by the court system. Until the next one be one of theirs. Then they will 🛑 this mess.
I don't see using his own car in the crimes as particularly intelligent.
He hasn't been on trial yet why is the media trying to convict him 🤔 🙄
Dint be stupid.
Wouldn't Kohberger have know that his DNA was easily traced using the genealogy DNA out there, and I'm assuming it was the mixed blood samples from the crime scene.
So, was Kohberger injured by his struggle with Ethan ? Did he not know Ethan would be there ? Did LE find the knife with some of BK's blood on it ? If he WAS injured would he have needed stitches & a trip to ER ?
So many questions
Yea true he was pretty sloppy with the dna but don’t these type of psychopaths or whatever like WANT to get caught so that he could get the “credit” the sick notoriety that these sick fucks enjoy marinating in
He obviously didn’t go to the ER. That would have been one of the first things LE would check. 🤦♀️ Wait until the PCA is released and then some of these things might be answered. In re: to the knife, they don’t need the knife to get his blood. If he cut himself that blood could have been mixed in with the victim’s. If that’s the case that’s extremely damning evidence and there’s almost no question as to his guilt. And sure, he may have known it could be traced but he may not have known a family member was in a database. It doesn’t have to be a close family member. He also seems like the type who’s really cocky. May not have known/understood that frenzied killing with that type of knife often results in cuts to the perpetrator. Again, we will know more when the PCA is released but that could be a long way down the road.
They should of had a suspect within 48 hours. Not 6 weeks later. I hope they have the right guy.
Easy to say. I would say that they had dozens of suspects within 48 hours. It takes time to sort thing out and to properly process evidence.
Still difficult to process that...Still like a bad dream when I look at these beautiful, healthy, happy young adults...Broken Hearted!!! I Still don't understand why he did such a gruesome crime, it doesn't make any sense...
If he was travelling with his dad around the country, would it be fair to also look at his dad for any connection to killing?. I mean, where was the dad during the horrific attack if it's true this guy is the killer?
Did he travel with him before or after ?
I thought about this- but if he did the killings in the early morning the dad could have been asleep. You know how parents are, they go to bed early.
I once heard that some potential psychopaths choose to pursue a career in the police force. Forgot where i saw that though
Yep like the pulse shooter
There’s people who aren’t educated beyond high school, yet get away with murder all the time. This dude being educated on the matter doesn’t make him any better at killing people, committing murder is a roll of the dice, you either leave evidence behind that will eventually lead them to you or you don’t leave anything behind, and the case goes cold.
Couldn't a student of criminology do a better job of not getting caught?
Creo que es un tipo inteligente, como hay tantos, que tiene una enfermedad mental cronificada en el tiempo y muy agravada por la falta de tratamiento. Quizá tenga más de una patología. Por desgracia a menudo este tipo de trastornos si no se tratan adecuadamente desembocan en situaciones muy dañinas para la persona o su entorno. No me parece un crimen muy sofisticado, ni siquiera muy bien planeado, por mucho que al ser estudiante de criminología tuviese “cuidados” especiales en ciertas cosas para evitar ser apresado. No sean morbosos. Hablen de la gran importancia de la salud mental para evitar este tipo de tragedias. DEJEN DE HACER TV DE LOS AÑOS 50, y realmente informen y ayuden a la audiencia que puede tener un familiar, un amigo, o incluso ellos mismos pasando por algún problema de salud menta para que acudan en busca de ayuda psicológica o psiquiatrica para que estas situaciones dejen de repetirse. 4 chicos muy jóvenes han muerto dejando familias destrozadas. ES HORA DE HACER UN TIPO DE PERIODISMO DIFERENTE, DIGNIFIQUEN SU PROFESIÓN.