I actually have one Handheld (One X Player 2 Pro 7840u), and it is both my Handheld and my... Desktop/Portable setup (with a 3060 in an E-GPU Setup). If I need a 'Laptop Setup', well, that will dominate a Dell Backpack but! It works amazingly as a notebook, with a 18" screen instead of the 15,6" of my previous Dell G5, and it has the advantage of allowing me to plan what do I need to take!
I have two laptops and two handhelds (Ally and LeGo). I usually cycle and sell hardware when it's 2-3 generations behind. I work remotely and would not recommend buying new hardware with IPS screens (light bleed), or big screens like 17 (not portable).
I have Rog G15 and LEGO, I always lean toward LEGO for comfortability (you can sit anywhere) but some games just play better on G15. But this comparison is spot on and very professional.
I originally started on Laptops, then built my first PC and finally ended buying a Steam Deck on launch day (got it on Q2). I've honestly haven't touched my laptop since. The demanding games are always played on my desktop (higher res and such) but I love being able to pick up where I left off on the deck. Being able to sit down while my partner is watching her favorite TV show is great.
Amazing video! Decided to watch this vid because I recently got an Hp victus 15 and I already have a steam deck but I’m considering giving my brother my steamdeck since I would most likely use my laptop. And I think I’m gonna just give it to him. Maybe a bad choice ? Thoughts?
@@greysongaddy879 Awh thanks! Well, I just love making videos. The views may come. They may not. Either way- I make videos because I genuinely enjoy making them. And people like you finding them and liking them is just the cherry on top!
I will always pick something like a Surface Book over a Gaming Laptop. I think gaming laptops are really only good for gaming. They're more expensive, there is no touch screen, detachable screen that turns the notebook into a tablet like the Surface Book, the screens are usually worse, lower resolution, manufacturer usually picking tn panels over ips which has less vivid colours and worse viewing angles, but OLED is becoming more of a thing now. The Gaming Laptops that do have TN Panels do have a higher hz signal which is really only good for gaming. They're hot, loud, big, heavy and bulky and require more maintenance due to their tendency to overheat and thermal throttle overtime, worse build quality, being made of plastic. The hinges are usually worse too, they have much worse battery life. Their desktop counter part gpu's perform a lot better. For daily non gaming use, a Gaming Laptop just isn't as practical as a Notebook. A Notebook feels a lot more modern than a gaming laptop, very Mac like. And i think PC Handhelds are perfect since it has something more in common with the Notebook that is specifically made for productivity use. A PC Handheld is made for gaming use only. It is like a Gaming Laptop without the Laptop stuff. Vastly improving the battery life aswell as it being a lot cheaper. I would always pick a Notebook and a PC Handheld over a Gaming Laptop. Both together are cheaper than a Gaming Laptop. The Gaming Laptop is great for gaming, but the Laptop part could be a lot better. The same can be said about Gaming Phones, which is why they failed.
As others in comments have mentioned,you need to compare apples to apples. Saying handhled is for gaming and laptop is also for other things beats the purpose when you string bean idea of laptop as viable for gaming - yes,no,yes no. I chose laptop instead simply because its portable,its more powerful than handheld even with 4060 in it, costed little over 700€,bigger screen,can do more other stuff on it comfortably like watching movies, TH-cam etc. Don't have to spend 1000€ for a laptop to have much better gaming experience,just plug in dongle and use xbox controller. Saying all this, everyone has their own needs and I like versatility of laptop personally, some might just want to play games. I disagree with you not showing performance methrics between similar priced handhelds and laptops,because all you are left to talk aboutis what else you can do with them what do you prefer( I can do that myslef) Don't compare like some other tubers do a 3000€ laptops with LEGO or Ally, it's comical.But that just my input,do what ever you want.
The Zephyrus G16 is the best of all worlds, 40% lighter than the Lenovo, 40% thinner, smaller in dimension, incredible battery life of 9 hours in TH-cam
Idk. I can run Elden Ring on my steamdeck which start at under $500 so… Find me a gaming laptop for under $500 that’ll run Elden Ring. Switch is also priced pretty well for its performance. Windows handhelds are the only handhelds I’d argue maybe aren’t great when it comes to price to performance but they’re not all bad. In most cases for gaming, they’re still a better value than your average gaming laptop IF gaming is what you’re looking for.
@@XXIVCONCEPT not it isnt, not even remotely close. Laptops have a different price point yeah, but price to performance has a precise meaning: what you pay vs what you get. How much for a lcd steam deck, 400? Ok 400. And for an average 4060 laptop? How about 1000 bucks? Now, for example in cb23 steam deck manages like 4200 points, while that laptop will do 13000 or 16000. And it's in the graphics department when the real gap is, because a 4060 is easily 5 times faster than steam deck. The laptop is 150% more expensive, but 400% faster IN GAMES. So, back to the beginning, what you pay vs what you get. A simple, unquestionable division. And the division has no doubts.
@@niebuhr6197 I’ll agree you can literally measure performance using a standardized metric to understand it. But let me ask you this- is that performance VALUABLE if it’s not a device you wanna use? If it’s a device you don’t enjoy using? Value can’t be determined by some number. This is why I don’t do benchmarks on my channel. They don’t define the products value or overall experience thus are a rabbit hole in defining what is valuable and what is not. Which for consumers, is what actually matters. Measuring performance as a driver of value is an empty numbers race. It always has been. Marketing has trained you to think bigger number and lower price (price to performance ratio) = better value thus better product. But that is simply not always true. Subjectivity has its place in this subject as it pertains to a consumer purchase decision which is the basis of my video. So sure your 4060 laptop could have better price to performance in the data but who cares if the laptop sucks and I don’t wanna use it? People buy product they LIKE to use. Products they DO use. Not products that claim to be better value. Value speaks for itself. It cannot be measure by a standardized test or unit of measurement. Benchmarks help us understand a devices capabilities which in turn is reflected as relative performance and it’s pre-determined value is reflected in the price which is selected and set by the market and the OEM. But benchmarks do not determine a devices value to a user. Performance and Price are only factors. I don’t remember if I related this all back to value in my video- but that was my sticking point about price to performance as it relates to value to the user. Is it stated clearly anywhere that price to performance has a precise standardized meaning? I’d like to see it. Or are we assuming based on best practice what it means and removing the value factor from the conversation?
@@niebuhr6197And he made that clear from the beginning of the video, so what are you whining for? Your point was already made, you’ve wasted your words.
Surprised to see few views in a good cooked video, just stumbled upon and have to stay, presentation is so clean and all the talk was fun to follow :D keep it up! I used to have a desktop PC I had to sell since I moved to a place with so little space (mind you I had a sweet ITX tower with really low footprint already 🥲) and now I only use a Macbook Air that surely delivers on the "lap"top side of things, but I miss gaming so much I've been looking at the Steamdeck, sure I could get a gaming laptop that would be plugged most of the time, but since I travel a lot for work it makes more sense to me to just jump in the Deck wagon and enjoy good gaming on the go, maybe in the future if I have enough space back for a good wide desktop I could get something beefier, who knows
Appreciate you! Absolutely recommend a Steam Deck. Do your research but I think a 256GB OLED is the way to go. So many options. And for games you can play on Steam Deck, there’s Nvidia GeForce NOW. Let me know what you decide! Have a great day! :)
Got it. I just think what can I do, if I stay all days home. I use rog ally. Maybe I should buy laptop? I want max fps and highest settings in all games. But I got dizzy from 16 inch screen. It's way to big for eyes to play games. 7 inch perfect but not enough power. Egpu also for example rog ally x got USB 4.0 for egpu, but no one tested it yet, need to see and have something like that.
Amazing video! Decided to watch this vid because I recently got an Hp victus 15 and I already have a steam deck but I’m considering giving my brother my steamdeck since I would most likely use my laptop. And I think I’m gonna just give it to him. Maybe a bad choice ? Thoughts?
![Powerful PC Handheld with the Nintendo Switch treatment [Lenovo Legion Go]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_rPvnNvoiWI/mqdefault.jpg)
So if you could have one or the other, which one are you picking? 🤔
A laptop, but only for the performance. Otherwise, getting to play games while riding on a bus or something like that with a handheld would be sick.
I actually have one Handheld (One X Player 2 Pro 7840u), and it is both my Handheld and my... Desktop/Portable setup (with a 3060 in an E-GPU Setup). If I need a 'Laptop Setup', well, that will dominate a Dell Backpack but! It works amazingly as a notebook, with a 18" screen instead of the 15,6" of my previous Dell G5, and it has the advantage of allowing me to plan what do I need to take!
@ Love it!
I have two laptops and two handhelds (Ally and LeGo). I usually cycle and sell hardware when it's 2-3 generations behind. I work remotely and would not recommend buying new hardware with IPS screens (light bleed), or big screens like 17 (not portable).
Great video - top quality intro as always 👏🏻
Haha i love this, great delivery and solid points all around.
Dude keep this up, great production and content!
Thank you!!
I have Rog G15 and LEGO, I always lean toward LEGO for comfortability (you can sit anywhere) but some games just play better on G15. But this comparison is spot on and very professional.
@@Atrainmar Thank you! Yeah I feel that. I’m just happy we have good options all around!
Way too less views for such a good video. Subscribed.
I originally started on Laptops, then built my first PC and finally ended buying a Steam Deck on launch day (got it on Q2). I've honestly haven't touched my laptop since. The demanding games are always played on my desktop (higher res and such) but I love being able to pick up where I left off on the deck. Being able to sit down while my partner is watching her favorite TV show is great.
Awesome video! I see this "issue" as portable gaming vs portable computer. Either CAN do the other but really specialize in their own areas
Absolutely!
Amazing video! Decided to watch this vid because I recently got an Hp victus 15 and I already have a steam deck but I’m considering giving my brother my steamdeck since I would most likely use my laptop. And I think I’m gonna just give it to him. Maybe a bad choice ? Thoughts?
Such little likes and views for a top notch vid
Thank you!
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Top notch vid man!
Why are you so good at what you do for so little views?
@@greysongaddy879 Awh thanks! Well, I just love making videos. The views may come. They may not. Either way- I make videos because I genuinely enjoy making them. And people like you finding them and liking them is just the cherry on top!
I Owned Steam deck & Nitro V. Graphics wise of course laptop! But the real portability is with Handheld of course!
Which can play monster hunter wilds?
Hand held 😭 I’ got a Nintendo switch lite
Ayyeee Nintendo knows how to make a good handheld. No judgement here!
I will always pick something like a Surface Book over a Gaming Laptop. I think gaming laptops are really only good for gaming. They're more expensive, there is no touch screen, detachable screen that turns the notebook into a tablet like the Surface Book, the screens are usually worse, lower resolution, manufacturer usually picking tn panels over ips which has less vivid colours and worse viewing angles, but OLED is becoming more of a thing now. The Gaming Laptops that do have TN Panels do have a higher hz signal which is really only good for gaming. They're hot, loud, big, heavy and bulky and require more maintenance due to their tendency to overheat and thermal throttle overtime, worse build quality, being made of plastic. The hinges are usually worse too, they have much worse battery life.
Their desktop counter part gpu's perform a lot better. For daily non gaming use, a Gaming Laptop just isn't as practical as a Notebook. A Notebook feels a lot more modern than a gaming laptop, very Mac like. And i think PC Handhelds are perfect since it has something more in common with the Notebook that is specifically made for productivity use. A PC Handheld is made for gaming use only. It is like a Gaming Laptop without the Laptop stuff. Vastly improving the battery life aswell as it being a lot cheaper. I would always pick a Notebook and a PC Handheld over a Gaming Laptop. Both together are cheaper than a Gaming Laptop. The Gaming Laptop is great for gaming, but the Laptop part could be a lot better. The same can be said about Gaming Phones, which is why they failed.
As others in comments have mentioned,you need to compare apples to apples. Saying handhled is for gaming and laptop is also for other things beats the purpose when you string bean idea of laptop as viable for gaming - yes,no,yes no. I chose laptop instead simply because its portable,its more powerful than handheld even with 4060 in it, costed little over 700€,bigger screen,can do more other stuff on it comfortably like watching movies, TH-cam etc. Don't have to spend 1000€ for a laptop to have much better gaming experience,just plug in dongle and use xbox controller. Saying all this, everyone has their own needs and I like versatility of laptop personally, some might just want to play games. I disagree with you not showing performance methrics between similar priced handhelds and laptops,because all you are left to talk aboutis what else you can do with them what do you prefer( I can do that myslef) Don't compare like some other tubers do a 3000€ laptops with LEGO or Ally, it's comical.But that just my input,do what ever you want.
hi its ok to buy a laptop for gaming and watching movie.youtube facebook etc.
The Zephyrus G16 is the best of all worlds, 40% lighter than the Lenovo, 40% thinner, smaller in dimension, incredible battery life of 9 hours in TH-cam
1:50 wut? Handhelds have BY FAR the worst price-performance out there.
Idk. I can run Elden Ring on my steamdeck which start at under $500 so… Find me a gaming laptop for under $500 that’ll run Elden Ring. Switch is also priced pretty well for its performance. Windows handhelds are the only handhelds I’d argue maybe aren’t great when it comes to price to performance but they’re not all bad. In most cases for gaming, they’re still a better value than your average gaming laptop IF gaming is what you’re looking for.
@@XXIVCONCEPT not it isnt, not even remotely close. Laptops have a different price point yeah, but price to performance has a precise meaning: what you pay vs what you get.
How much for a lcd steam deck, 400? Ok 400. And for an average 4060 laptop? How about 1000 bucks? Now, for example in cb23 steam deck manages like 4200 points, while that laptop will do 13000 or 16000. And it's in the graphics department when the real gap is, because a 4060 is easily 5 times faster than steam deck.
The laptop is 150% more expensive, but 400% faster IN GAMES. So, back to the beginning, what you pay vs what you get. A simple, unquestionable division. And the division has no doubts.
@@niebuhr6197 I’ll agree you can literally measure performance using a standardized metric to understand it. But let me ask you this- is that performance VALUABLE if it’s not a device you wanna use? If it’s a device you don’t enjoy using? Value can’t be determined by some number. This is why I don’t do benchmarks on my channel. They don’t define the products value or overall experience thus are a rabbit hole in defining what is valuable and what is not. Which for consumers, is what actually matters. Measuring performance as a driver of value is an empty numbers race. It always has been. Marketing has trained you to think bigger number and lower price (price to performance ratio) = better value thus better product. But that is simply not always true. Subjectivity has its place in this subject as it pertains to a consumer purchase decision which is the basis of my video. So sure your 4060 laptop could have better price to performance in the data but who cares if the laptop sucks and I don’t wanna use it? People buy product they LIKE to use. Products they DO use. Not products that claim to be better value. Value speaks for itself. It cannot be measure by a standardized test or unit of measurement.
Benchmarks help us understand a devices capabilities which in turn is reflected as relative performance and it’s pre-determined value is reflected in the price which is selected and set by the market and the OEM. But benchmarks do not determine a devices value to a user. Performance and Price are only factors. I don’t remember if I related this all back to value in my video- but that was my sticking point about price to performance as it relates to value to the user.
Is it stated clearly anywhere that price to performance has a precise standardized meaning? I’d like to see it. Or are we assuming based on best practice what it means and removing the value factor from the conversation?
@@XXIVCONCEPT in that case it boils down to what everyone already knows: two different user cases. It's not an overlapping market.
@@niebuhr6197And he made that clear from the beginning of the video, so what are you whining for? Your point was already made, you’ve wasted your words.
Surprised to see few views in a good cooked video, just stumbled upon and have to stay, presentation is so clean and all the talk was fun to follow :D keep it up!
I used to have a desktop PC I had to sell since I moved to a place with so little space (mind you I had a sweet ITX tower with really low footprint already 🥲) and now I only use a Macbook Air that surely delivers on the "lap"top side of things, but I miss gaming so much I've been looking at the Steamdeck, sure I could get a gaming laptop that would be plugged most of the time, but since I travel a lot for work it makes more sense to me to just jump in the Deck wagon and enjoy good gaming on the go, maybe in the future if I have enough space back for a good wide desktop I could get something beefier, who knows
Appreciate you! Absolutely recommend a Steam Deck. Do your research but I think a 256GB OLED is the way to go. So many options. And for games you can play on Steam Deck, there’s Nvidia GeForce NOW.
Let me know what you decide! Have a great day! :)
Lol traveling and playing in game? If you traveling should travel look around)
@@RK-qn7tg I travel for work. So after a 16 hour show day I like to relax by gaming.
Got it. I just think what can I do, if I stay all days home. I use rog ally. Maybe I should buy laptop? I want max fps and highest settings in all games. But I got dizzy from 16 inch screen. It's way to big for eyes to play games. 7 inch perfect but not enough power. Egpu also for example rog ally x got USB 4.0 for egpu, but no one tested it yet, need to see and have something like that.
Amazing video! Decided to watch this vid because I recently got an Hp victus 15 and I already have a steam deck but I’m considering giving my brother my steamdeck since I would most likely use my laptop. And I think I’m gonna just give it to him. Maybe a bad choice ? Thoughts?