When I was told as a kid that God felt the compulsion to stop the tower from being built because it would reach to heaven (which he couldn't abide), I had to wonder why he didn't then feel the need to later stop humans from developing airplanes that could fly high enough to reach there.
Exactly. If he was so worried about a really high tower, you'd think he'd definitely knock satellites out of the sky. And why hasn't he judged humanity for learning how to translate languages, circumventing his will for them to be separate?
If we continued what about all those people who have future relationships to some people now they would have died if they kept going up there would be no air for them to breath
If god had an oh shit moment on what we planned on doing that would mean he cant be all knowing. Because if he already knew what we were going to do he would've given everybody a different language to begin with. the more i think about this shit the more i think this god is actually a human. He gets mad, jealous, vengeful, remorseful, thats sounds alot like us.
In Britain, there's a famous book called 'Just So Stories' (Rudyard Kipling, 1902) full of children's fables about why the elephant has a long nose (it was pulled by a crocodile), the leopard has spots (an Ethiopian helped him to hide in the jungle), etc. I always assumed as a kid that the Bible was just the same thing (where do people come from, why do they all speak different languages, etc); it's been eye-opening to discover that many Americans take these stories as literal truth.
Oh, thankyou for sharing your story! I had forgotten that book was in my house as a child! My older siblings enjoyed the stories and read them to me. I was taken to church from the age of 8 years, but struggle as I did to convince myself it was all wonderfully spiritual and real, I could never quite convince myself. The talking snake and clothes, etc. My early start with 'Just So Srories' explains a lot! Thank you again for this revelation! 😊
As a Catholic Christian, I never understood why people thought the Bible didn't line up with science. I was never taught it was literal. Which is why so many Evangelicals accuse Catholics and Eastern Orthodox of not being "true Christians". I'll take that over fundamentalism. Of course we had our own problems, but literal Bible interpretation wasn't one of them.
@@karolinaska6836I think that growing up Roman Catholic, and having those same beliefs as you describe, is one of the reasons I held on to my faith as long as I did. I finally started actively deconstructing my faith in my late 20s (about 25 years ago now). I left Christianity within 4-5 years, but it took another 10 years before I finally realized that I was an atheist. After all the revelations about the Roman Catholic Church in the last 25 years, I struggle to understand why anyone stays part of it. It’s a monstrous organization and deserves to be utterly dismantled, with all its insane, stolen wealth distributed to its victims or the descendants of its millennia of abuses.
The thing that always gets me about these stories is the fact that god is all-knowing and all powerful. He saw everything in advance. Why does he always get mad?
@@nickg5010 Uh, let's see: drowning the entire world. Burning Sodom down to the ground. Putting Abraham through the emotional torture of having to kill his son. God killing his own son, if you are Christian. God killing Job's family, burining his house down, destroying everything Job owned - so God could win a bet with Satan. And much, much more. Where is your evidence that the god of the Bible DOESN'T get mad? (Are you aware that Yahweh was originally one of about 80 Canaanite gods? Yahweh was the war god. Who was made into The One God by the Israelites. He behaves like a war god.)
@@nickg5010 Examples of God being mad/ angry: ' Even at Horeb you provoked the LORD to wrath, and the LORD was so angry with you that he would have destroyed you.' - Deuteronomy 9:8 'And in the Greatness of Your excellence You overthrow who rise up against You; You send forth Your burning anger, and it consumes them as chaff. ' Exodus 15:7 'Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation." Then Moses entreated the LORD his God, and said, "O LORD, why does your anger burn against Your people whom You have brought out from the land of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand?" - Exodus 32:10 -11 'Now the people became like those who complain of adversity in the hearing of the LORD; and when the LORD heard it, His anger was kindled, and the fire of the LORD burned among them and consumed some outskirts of the camp. - Numbers 11: 1 'By the breath of God they perish, And by the blast of his anger they shall come to an end' - Job 4:9 'So the LORD'S anger burned against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until an entire generation of those who had done evil in the sight of the LORD was destroyed. ' - 2 Kings 13:3 'Now I shall pour out My wrath on you and spend My anger against you....' Ezekiel 7:8 'In indignation You marched through the earth; In anger You trampled the nations.' - Habakkuk 3:12 But wait, there's more! Also: Lamentations 2:2; Isiah 51:20; Isiah 13:9; 2 Kings 13:3; Matthew 21:12-13; Daniel 8: 19; Matthew 3:7; Romans 2:5; Jeremiah 7:29; Deuteronomy 31: 17; 2 Kings 17:18; 2 Kings 23:25 - 27; Palms 89:38; Lamentations 2:6-7; etc. That's just 25 references. I will leave you to find the rest. I need a nap. If only more trolls would give me such enjoyment, though! 😅
That's one of my big problems as well. He knew what Satan was going to do to his beloved human race, he knew billions of souls would go to hell forever because of the evil, he knew all of that before he created anything! But he still made Satan.
I remember when I started questioning Christianity, I came across your page on Tiktok. I thought “nah she’s too far gone” and was kinda careful while watching your videos 1.5 years later, I became agnostic, and I feel happy I found you. Thank you so much for your work!
That was said about the gathering of believers. ‘With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.’ Psalm 18:26
Evil is disorder and chaos. Frustrating evil by undermining their ability to communicate creates the possibility of stability and productivity, that is, order.
@@jeffryblair6816 I was thinking you made a good point until I thought about it. Isn't it the law that let's us know what is good in God's eyes and what is evil? The law was given for just that fact.There was no law. So how then would they know not to build? They wouldn't know to build just as adam wouldn't have known the tree was forbidden wo gods warning. The bible says where there is no law there is no transgression . So why was Sodom destroyed.?
During the transatlantic slave trade, the masters purposefully tried to put people together who didn't speak the same languages to make it harder for them to communicate with each and revolt. What happened is that they invented pidgin languages which later became creoles. This scenario repeated itself in plantations in Hawaii as well. People who speak different languages don't necessarily just disperse into different linguistic groups. If the people at the Babel site were really determined, they would have invented a pidgin in order to complete the project.
One thousand percent! I think the whole book of Genesis is a story of slaves working in a Babylonian Hanging Garden (Eden). This is what these people did during the Babylonian Empire.
If the people have free will to leave, then they stick together with the group that speaks the same language. They would not have spoken pidgin to continue the project. I lived in Hawaii for seven years so I know what you mean by pidgin, you know bra. Da kine bra. Talk story... Anyway, I also live in the Philippines and speak only English. Many around me don't know English very well. There is a neighbor who is from America. I naturally gravitate towards him and the Filipinos naturally gravitate towards one another. If we travel just an hour from our home, the language switches from Kameo to Bisia. So, those who speak Bisia stay with those who speak Bisia. Those who speak Kameo stay with those who speak Kameo. So, no you are wrong. In slavery situations, yes a pidgin language may be developed, but in free will situations, the similar language unites and different languages divides. The Bible is 100% accurate in this account of what happens when different languages are spoken.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 "So, no you are wrong." I guess that settles it, then. It's interesting however, how the people who wanted to create a Jewish state in the Middle East found a mechanism to unite a people who spoke different languages. It that case, they didn't create a pidgin but instead revived a liturgical language. If the Bible is 100 percent accurate then I don't understand how a people who spoke so many different languages came together for a project. And and this case it was more than just a tower; they built a state that survived various attacks by its neighbors. You might know the story. It was no doubt a miracle of the Lord and since we're just stating things without evidence, who's to argue? 🤣
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying people spoke 100's of different languages and came together to build the tower of Babel?
Hell, look at Quebec. We're actively trying to not mix with the rest of Canada and our joual still has SO MUCH ENGLISH like one word out of 10 is frenchisized english anyway, and it's usually the important words (car parts, insults, appliances, the good important food (aka the pastries and the meat), and the TV/movie genres). We can generally communicate with english tourists with just a bunch of pantomiming and just using the english parts of the joual.
Excellent critique, as usual Kristi. My question: How is it that God was threatened by a man-made tower that would have been, at the most generous estimates some 200 feet high? How was that going to make man as powerful as God himself?! And today we have skyscrapers 2,000 feet high! Is God threatened by One World Trade Center? Or the Burgj Khalifa? Why did he allow those to be built? And... how about flying--higher than ANY building... going to the Moon for crying out loud?! So much in the Bible makes absolutely NO sense. Thanks for your wisdom Kristi.
Kristi, I so enjoy your videos. I may be different than many of your followers in that I do believe there is a creator, but I don’t believe ANY religious doctrine or text. I do enjoy unpacking these stories and drawing my own conclusions. Im not here to argue or convince anyone to my conclusions because the bottom line is that none of us know, so I don’t take anything at face value. In addition, I can see and respect why an atheist believes as they do. Thank you for what you do.
The world already has millions of people just like her, as we can see from the people making inane and ignorant comments on this site supporting her hate-filled nonsense.
@@Ashclayton1994 No, because if I had done so, at least, unlike you, I would know when to use capital letters. What has amazed me on this site is the infantile grammatical errors constantly being made by atheists. Not a very smart lot, are you!
If your Sunday school teachers knew the bible better, they would have explained that the bible was referring to the practice of the black arts associated with the primitive beliefs concerning astronomy. Something which Kristi Burke is obviously ignorant of. Try doing some genuine study.
@@williambunter3311 first off, nowhere in the bible does it say that the builders of the tower of Babel were focused on Astronomy. It says their goal was to create a tower so tall that it reached the heavens. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Second, referring to Astronomy as black arts and a primitive belief? What the hell? Astronomy is neither of those things. Astronomy is not some dark and evil form of magic and it's not a simple belief system of primitives. Astronomy is the study of the stars, black holes, Galaxies, planets, moons, and the Universe itself.
@@psychonaut175 First off, the bible does not need to use the word 'astronomy' since it uses words in usage when it was written, Just as the word 'sociology'was used first only a couple of centuries ago, before which it was known only as one of the 'natural sciences'. Secondly, the people at the time of Nimrod knew nothing about black holes, dwarf stars, interplanetry gravitation, galaxies etc. But they were well aware that there was no way whatever that they could possibly erect a building that would literally reach up into the heavens. To take that expression literally is unbelievably gormless. They were not as thick as that would require them to be. But like the idiots today who plan their lives around their daily newespaper horoscope, they were full of superstition, and well involved in the occult. You have tried to sound knowledgeable, but have ended up looking really silly. Which is only to be expected from anyone who is taken in by the garbage put out by this pathetic wanabee woman. If your comment was not so pathetic, it would be laughable.
@@francescocostanzo8225 Exactly, a base is needed. It was believed the "tower" really refers to a ziggurat (a stepped pyramid sorta) which are found thousands of years earlier BC/BCE
Thank you, Kristi, for creating this safe space for people to work through their deconstruction. I'm somewhat new to deconstruction, and, as an exvangelical, your videos are extremely validating for me.
Having just returned from Dubai and seeing the Burj Khalifa, aka the tallest building in the world at 829.8 meters (2,722 ft), which is probably just a *smidge* higher than the Tower of Babel allegedly was planned to be, it’s weird how god doesn’t seem bothered by it. 😜
When I was in second grade in Catholic school, I clearly remember the nun reading this story and telling us it was true and that's how all the different people and languages came about. Even as a kid I knew it was made up and not true.
As someone who has worked in kitchens where as many as 4 different languages were spoken, this did not stop the work from getting done. If people already have any idea of what to do we just kept doing it and now I know how to say a bunch of kitchen lingo in 4 different languages.
This story is interesting in that unlike every other time his plans were being foiled by humans, God's solution wasn't murder. God was actually capable of _not_ killing people.
When I subscribed to your channel I was hoping for this type of regular content. I know you're more prolific on TikTok but as a senior gentleman who doesn't know a great deal about social media and has no desire to view any content on TikTok I'm very pleased to see two wonderful TH-cam videos (of length) in succession. Perhaps this type of regularity can't be expected all the time but I definitely applaud your output this week. I really enjoy your content Kristi, keep up the great work for all those struggling with these serious issues. Cheers from Ontario, Canada!
I will never have anything to do with Chinese Communist owned and controlled Tik Tok. I am very pissed off that Americans use it at all. What the actual hell is wrong with people?
What a great analysis. Thank you. It reminds me of a quote from a beloved pastor I once knew who was gracious enough to tell us the quiet part out loud: "Like it or not, God is in the business of glorifying himself."
It is not even a week I have come to this realization of what a god I have been believing all these years... everytime you analyze his actions I can't help but laugh at his character....thank you for unveiling truth to us🙏🙏
I actually spent the first 12 years of my life with Zero religious indoctrination. Then when my Mom remarried, I was thrusted in Christianity and forced to go church. Right off the rip, I was full of questions and skepticism. I was never able to buy what they were selling! 😂🤙
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions KNOW that they freely and openly REJECTED - 1. the Bible as worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God 3. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth 4. the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their own lives and existence. Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions don't KNOW and understand that worshippers of the Creator and believers of the Christ are NOT and will never be Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Catholics, Born Again Christians, or fanatics of any Religion and Cult in the world Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions KNOW that the authorities, will, and teachings of the Creator and his Christ are offensive and not acceptable to them. Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions are simply offended, hurt, and angered by these - All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are definitely bringing upon themselves that Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
Atheists, Agnostics, fanatics of all Religions, worshippers of the Creator, believers of the Christ, and all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all loving, kind, and submissive worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the Creator's right and proper time, Jesus Christ will resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
My history was quite similar. I was brought up in a Catholic part of the Netherlands but my parents where not particular religious. Then, at school, I was prepared for first communion. From the beginning I thought it was stupid that a god would put that tree in the middle of a perfect garden. Everything went downhill from there.
And God said, if they create this system of knowledge and information, there is nothing they cannot do. Come, let us create social media to sow hatred, discord and rancor. Twitter, the modern Prometheus.
@nmappraiser9926 I mean that's what's happened a lot of youth is going crazy especially In the superficial era why do you think more mass shootings will come? 63% of males single men and women in today's day in war
Now I ask WHERE is the beautiful people? They don't exist most ppl in this world are liars and two faced but ex Christians swear on their mommas that the world is beautiful but if THEY were UGLYYY they wouldn't be saying the world is beautiful
the "god" advanced by so many of these churches reminds me of my cruel, evil stepfather. He got drunk everyday, beat us all up, did everything he could to destroy any sense of self-esteem we might develop. And we were not allowed to complain about it, even to my mother...she played the role of jesus in as much as she apologized for his drunken insanity and told us he did it because he loved us. I'm sure my story is familiar to many people who grew up in the south, as did I, and the weird, cruel, manipulative, sadistic "god" they preach is just cover for their own inability to deal with their own issues.
@@melgonz2087 Name and prove one person has been brain dead and came back to life. Just one with undisputable evidence. I truly think you are a liar and a troll.
@@melgonz2087 You talk the talk but can NOT walk the walk. All Christians can do is quote scripture... The End. If one really reads and understands the biblical God. That biblical God is pure evil. We pray for you Christians to WAKE UP someday!
@@A-non-theistI'm not religious so don't get me wrong, but it really does depend. The Bible tells this but a number of scholars might disagree. There is evidence that the new testament was structured to fix the old testament and Jesus was not even speaking about the God of the old testament. They think he was speaking of another God all together. A question is there really is zero proof that Jesus ever claimed to be the son of God in the original oldest writings of the Bible. In fact, on a couple occasions in the Bible Jesus actually denies it.
One question I've always had is that humans have created hundreds of buildings and structures taller than the tower of Babel would have been since that story was written for pretty much exactly the same reasons (to show that they could, to be remembered) so why didn't God punish all those attempts, too? And if the issue was "trying to get close to the heavens" what about airplanes and space travel?
Great questions. I'll try my best to keep the answer short. For one, everyone speaking the same language kept everyone in the same location, rather than obeying God to multiply and fill the earth (Genesis 9:1). I can go into more detail about the difference between people speaking one language compared to speaking different languages if you like. Secondly, God needed the events of human history to lead up to the perfect time for the Messiah to be revealed. The Tower of Babel story may have prevented this from occurring, so God intervened. There is absolutely no need for God to intervene now. Everything has been accomplished. Now, the antichrist needs to be revealed. Thus, unrighteous needs to flourish. So, humans being allowed to boast about what they make, etc needs to happen so the prophesied antichrist can be revealed. After the antichrist is revealed, then Christ will come back to set up His Kingdom to show us what a righteous kingdom should look like. So, anyway, I would be shocked if God intervened now to stop people from constructing tall buildings, etc. For, God needs this prideful behavior to occur and in greater amounts so the world will eventually be primed for the Antichrist to be revealed.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 But we know how new languages develop over time. For example, Spanish and English are relatively new languages that didn't come into existence at the time of the tower of Babel story. Languages gradually evolve over time. You can actually see the evolution of Spanish from Latin by examining old literature. The tower of Babel story is clearly a fable written by ignorant ancient men attempting to explain why there are multiple different languages instead of just one.
@@caribbeanman3379 We know how some languages develop over time. This doesn't mean the story of the tower of Babel is not true. The story doesn't claim all languages in the year 2023 were originally created at the time of the tower of Babel. No Bible scholar would agree to this. Yes, many languages were created during the time of Babel, but not all languages. However, what you need to answer is how did random processes create the complexities of languages, syntax, etc. Why would there be so many languages? For we observe now that we are wanting to communicate with others and learn their languages, not create new languages. It doesn't make sense to create a new language if everyone in the area speaks the same language. I know this from personal experience. I live in the Philippines and those who speak the same language stay with one another. My wife has to know 4 languages because in her hometown she speaks Kameo. Then if we drive 30 minutes away, she has to speak Bisia. Then if we drive another 3 hours she speaks Tagolog. Guess what? Those who speak Tagolog live with those who speak Tagolog. Those who speak Bisia live with those who speak Bisia. Those who speak Kameo live with those who speak Kameo. This is exactly what was mentioned would happened in Genesis 11. I'm not sure if you've visited other countries or not, but those who speak the same language live together. We are social creatures. We naturally want to communicate with one another. Those that understand one another congregate together. Those who don't understand one another separate from one another. The story in Genesis 11 is exactly what is observed today.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 Humans spread out to isolated religions throughout the earth before complex language as we know it today, developed. So complex languages developed independently in multiple places. So that's how we have so many radically different languages. There was also multiple humans species (ever heard of Neanderthals?) with slightly different anatomy. But such differences may have been enough for particular species to prefer certain phonemes over others based on make up of organs used in speech. But even racial differences can be significant enough to result in one group having a preference for certain types of phonemes as distinct from another. Then after multiple complex languages developed over time in multiple places, these languages also underwent changes over time, spawning even more new languages as populations of speakers moved to other isolated areas and/or experienced cultural and language influences from other communities speaking other languages. The English language is a good example of this. A Germanic language at its historical core, with lots of vocabulary influences from French, Latin and Greek.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 "Secondly, God needed the events of human history to lead up to the perfect time for the Messiah to be revealed." - What makes you think this is true? What would be the perfect time for the Messia to be revealed and why? Furthermore these are not the reasons for god's actions in Babel story mentioned in the text. In Genesis 11:6-7 it says: 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: *and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.* 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. In other words: according to god, people got too powerful. He felt threatened by humanity's rising power, which is a strange thing for an allegedly all-powerful and omniscient god to feel. He even feared that people would be able to do everything they can imagine. Really? Was he scared that humans could become gods because people can imagine that? This is a very bizarre story.
When I was re-reading this story, I asked myself why was God so mad at people just coming together and building a tower? What was so wrong about it? And if that's the case, why did he let humanity build so many skycrapers, probably taller than the tower of babel could ever have been.. I can't believe I used to believe this story to be true.
Thank you for covering this topic, it always bothered me growing up but none of the adults around me acted like it was a problem for them. The church made me spend my young life questioning my mind, and convincing myself other people reasoned better than me and should defer to there judgement for safety.😂 You should cover God asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, and he never questioned it despite not wanting to because this kind of demand was completely in God's character and he was afraid of Him. This caused an unsatisfying argument with my mom when I was young. That was probably the first big crack in my ability to believe but it took at least 15 more years to loosen the fear enough to admit it to myself for good.
Also that Christians only talk about Abraham and Isaac because that's the child sacrifice that god stopped at the last moment. But they never talk about the _other story_ where the daughter really is sacrificed to god as a burnt offering. That one doesn't apparently count to Christians as human sacrifice because female.
Christians don't realize that the first born sacrifice was THE ULTIMATE burnt offering if you had REALLY screwed up. Israelites were doing it a lot. The entire religion hinges on the first born sacrifice of god's son. Think about it.
I have thought about this before and cannot understand why I just accepted it years back. It does seem true from the bible that God and "them" do not want humanity to achieve and grow. It is mind boggling.
Same here. I think we just were not conditioned to question anything from the Bible when we were kids. Then as we got older these stories took on a mythological quality, but I still never stopped to question why the stories were part of the Bible at all. I hope these videos help folks to start to question everything! It is time to move on from this messy, backwards-looking belief system!
When I was growing up, I was always told, that I shroud do what Gods wants me to do with my life when I get older. Like if I don't get a job I want its God's will not mine. I always got very upset being told that, because if God gave us free will, then why can't we peruse what makes us happy in life?
I spent six months in Casablanca, Morocco. On one of the two occasions that I visited the city of Marrakech 150 south of C.B., a fellow told me that he was taking me through one of the older babs. Confused, I asked what is a "bab". Turns out, in Arabic and related Hebrew, bab means "gate". Il is Canaanitish for "god" (el in Hebrew and al in Arabic) and the suffix "on" is possessive. Thus, Babylon means "gate of the gods". When the Israelites ( isra 'el -fought with god) were slaves in Babylon, they saw the old Sumerian ziggurats which were temples. The Babylonians believed that the gods (Marduk, Ishtar, etc.) came down from the temples and passed through the gates to go see the world. Some of these ziggurats are over 200 feet tall - a huge height above the plain of the Euphrates river. In the city of Babylon, one might hear Babylonian, Assyrian, Sumerian, various forms of Persian, Hebrew, and other languages as well. The priests spoke languages that the Hebrews could not understand. Thus the Biblical story to explain it.
Pretty much, though I suspect the origins are older. A lot of their stories seem to have an anti-city sentiment. Possibly from when they were still nomadic herders who had a dislike , for some reason, for the great cities of the East, before they built their own cities. I'm no expert, and I don't have solid evidence of that, but it's how all the tidbits coalesce in my mind.
@@OneEyed_Jack jeb6314 is correct the bible was written in the 6th century when the Judahites were in Babylon. The bible dates itself with cities and countries that did not exist before that time
@fordprefect5304 🤦♂️ When it was written doesn't necessarily coincide with when all the _stories_ originated. They also weren't all written at the same time. It's not a single book. A lot of the OT "books" are patchworks of older stories, the origins of some of which are almost certainly older than Isrealites having proper writing. That said, I could certainly be entirely wrong, and am probably at least partially wrong, but it remains that a number of the stories, ToB included, have a distinct anti-city leaning, which doesn't square well with the displaced Israelites being being largely _from the city._ (Jerusalem)
@@OneEyed_Jack *with when all the stories originated* *True* some books were written in the Northern Kingdom which fell in 721. Amos, Isiah, Hosea, Micah, Song of Deborah, etc I will qualify my statement by saying the *Torah* was written in the 6th century and some in the 5th. [Genesis 11] 11:27 Now these are the descendants of Terah. Terah was the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran was the father of Lot. 11:28 Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his birth, in *Ur of the Chaldeans* *The Chaldeans do not take control of Babylon (Ur) until 626BCE* Therefore it could not have been written before the 6th century. This guy explains it better than me. th-cam.com/video/9uIXzUEwrOg/w-d-xo.html
I love your videos! When I was very religious, I would be troubled by these things that you point out, but I would fall back on what all fundamentalists are told. "God's knowledge is above ours and when we get to heaven he'll explain it all to us." I let a church tell me that what I knew didn't make sense, was true.
Looking back on it, so many of the unanswerable questions I had were deflected with "Well when you get to heaven you can ask God." The issue is that the question usually has to do with something that doesn't make sense about God/the Bible so it's not a satisfying answer to just say "Ignore your doubts and just hope you're correct so that you can one day get the answer." God not existing is a pretty big issue to just file away under "ask after you've already given your entire life to the church."
@@undrwatropium3724 I meant if she went around the country and did this LIVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY(sort of like what Matt Dillahunty, if you know who he is does), basically, it would be like her versus a Christian, or a Muslim, or whichever religion us person. It would be interesting debate with a live audience.
@@undrwatropium3724 i’m talking about going around the country and debating with other debaters (kind of similar to Mr. dillahunty) not just from TikTok. I’m talking in front of a live studio audience in front of hundreds.
* Christians (rather Christianity) would have clarified your point. 😊 Yes, I totally agree! I am not sure if she knows about other religions to debate them. But Christianity is certainly her specialist subject!
Lol the mythology is actually pretty fascinating to read when regarded as a work of fiction. It tells the story of a petty tyrant. An evil god. A powerful bully who demands sycophantic behavior and is so insecure that he constantly puts his followers through heinous "tests of loyalty". He feels SO insecure that if his followers demonstrate too much independent thought (question his rules, or organize themselves for a large-scale project), he has to knock them down a peg to keep them believing that they are reliant upon him. Basically an a-hole so caustic that even the Greek pantheon would have thrown him out of Olympus for being too malignant to put up with. He makes for a _fascinatingly malignant_ character.
We catholic raised, when my brother and I had questions, which could not be answered in a logical way, we were told we would understand when we got to heaven, which we knew that was the end of the conversation. I'll be honest, we were somewhat affected by the crap we were being brainwashed with, we were saved by realizing it defied logic or the way regular people behaved. Thankful skepticism and logic gave ind of an inoculation against all the abusive crap.
I took an anthropology course in college that focused on the history of languages on earth, and the myth of the Tower of Babel was touched on as just another myth! It astounds me that so many “religious” types believe this stuff without question! 🤣😂🤣😳
@@daniellamcgee4251 I know where I stand in relation to the other faiths. I'm probably not a good example of one because I get angry and curse too much.
I find the reverse more unbelievable: That so many young people still believe in nonsense like gods despite having the entirety of human knowledge at their fingertips.
It doesn't seem like Kristi has 'such little learning' to me. 🤔 It seems evident to me that Kristi has learned a huge amount, and been on a steep learning curve, since she started questioning her own religion.
@@FinckelsteinNot quite the entirety....I keep hitting the walls of the internet's limitations, but I get your point! Unfortunately, there is so much misinformation more attractively packaged for young people, on multiple social media platforms.
I guess a lot of the people who then left the tower-project and went to live elsewhere also completely forgot about the existence of the bible god and made their own religions, hindu, buddhism, ... a bit counterproductive I guess,... not the wise all loving father figure you'd expect him to be, rather an insecure child... As a story it's kind of cute, it tries to make a continuity between the earth being repopulated by just one family and why there's so many different cultures and languages now... It's also a reconfirmation that this god is a textbook narcissist... they seem to not need him that much, he goes and has a look, sees they're pretty happy and peacefully working on their project, and boom, he sabotages the project...
@@acrombb2 that's nonsense, if I would commit a crime I would face justice, cheat on my wife, face consequences, this is not anything different from what a belief in god can help you with, there's probably some misconceptions and false sins in there, things you can do that have no real consequences, the coveting, which is indeed a thing you should not let take the better of you, but making it a sin if there are no consequences is over the top.
The book of Genesis is like an ancient version of 'Just So Stories'. For 'how the world got so many languages' substitute 'how the elephant got his trunk'.
Exactly! The actual name of the book (which literally means "origins") should clue religious readers into the fact that it's a book of Jewish 'Just So Stories' attempting to explain the origin of many things: the earth, sun, moon and starts; plants, living animals and humans; how animals got their names; shamefulness of nakedness; clothes; painful childbirth; hard labor; different languages, nations and ethnicities; rain and the rainbow; why snakes/serpents don't have legs; origin of certain musical instruments; why wild animals fear humans; why animals killed for food are bled; the origin of the Jewish people beginning with the Noah's son Shem; etc.
It very much sounds like it. And Adam & Eve as well (why do we have to work hard and die?), as well as Noahs Ark (why are there catrastophes? Why is there a rainbow?)
This story began the unraveling of my faith. I was deeply entrenched in the fundamental Christian worldview because I grew up knowing nothing else. My dad is a Southern Baptist pastor and I was taught that these stories were literal history. Fast-forward to me studying linguistics in college and realizing that different languages develop over time and not in one snap of God's fingers. I understood then that this story was not true, and that made me begin to question EVERYTHING. I lost my faith at the Tower of Babel.
My deconstruction from growing up in an evangelical church was doing mushrooms when I went to college. That was in the 1970s. Easter sermon traumatized me with the adults saying amen when the Angel killed the babies in Egypt if blood of a lamb wasn’t smeared on the door.
As a really early reader I loved the Greek, Grimm's, and Aesop stories and realized the existence of symbolism moral tales. When was old enough, my parents sent me to Sunday School and Vacation Bible School, I already had a place for magical creatures and events, talking animals, etc and quickly realized how really BAD the Bible stories were and how completely ridiculous this God character was as Kristi has been pointing out. After about a year of that nonsense, my parents decided that it wasn't working and I think they pretty much gave up on it themselves when they discovered their kid wasn't buying any of it.
If god wanted to confuse people by creating different languages then he failed because we were able to learn and communicate with different people from different cultures and different languages.
As a recovering Baptist from years ago who has already deconstructed, I'm loving your content. Currently reading Dan Barker's "God The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction." Also "The Skeptics Guide to the Universe" is a must read also.
I looked up Dan Barker because of this. Didn't find the book you mentioned, but I'm massively attracted by the title -- because my revised look at the Abrahamic god shows me an EXTREMELY unpleasant character.
Good stuff, thanks Kristi. So many bible stories are supplemented with other information that didn't come from the bible in order to attempt to fill in logical holes. It's a carnival game - keep the cards moving too quickly to track them accurately.
simply put... you are an amazing and beautiful person. please, never stop the fight to help save the indoctrinated, brainwashed victims from their manipulative, emotional abusers. you are an inspiration to me and i hope continue to be an inspiration to many on a daily basis. though i will continue to be an arrogant, obnoxious, fed up, nasty atheist, i thank god for the well spoken, intelligent and gentle free thinkers like you. 😊 keep up the awesome work.
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions are fully aware and KNOW that the Creator is not stopping them from glorifying the LIES and deceptions of his enemy, Satan the Devil and spreading throughout the world their own LIES, myths, fictions, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation". Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions are fully aware and KNOW that the Creator is not forcing them to submit to the authority of his Christ and believe his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" The Creator KNOWS that all Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions will not be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths. Jesus Christ KNOWS that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his Biblical authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@harveywabbit9541 What is REAL TRUTH? and.... What are REAL LIES? Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults are fully aware and KNOW that they are glorifying the LIES and deceptions of Satan the Devil and spreading throughout the world their own LIES, myths, fictions, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation". The Creator KNOWS that all Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults will not be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths. Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults are fully aware and KNOW that they don't submit to the Biblical authority of Jesus Christ and don't believe too his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" Jesus Christ KNOWS that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his Biblical authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe too his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8. The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@harveywabbit9541 It takes more than a phallus to create things! It would certainly be a different world if that was the case. Add all the accompanying equipment to the phallus and pubescent boys in their bedrooms would be caught in the act of creating ecosystems. 😊 Teenage boys could save the planet by school excursions for re-wilding! 😊
Fun fact: When space exploration was first being proposed in the early 20th century, some Christians were against it because they thought we'd be invading God's territory and pissing him off just like the builders of the Tower of Babel.
This is one of my favorite stories from the Bible (probably because I'm a language/linguistics enthusiast), and it really frustrates me that there are people who are take this story literally. There's clearly a message in there about how humans could do seemingly impossible things if we just cooperated, but instead they go with the easily debunked face-value reading.
Does anyone with an engineering degree know if it's actually possible to build a tower high enough to breach the atmosphere? Like, if you hypothetically could find a building area large enough and flat enough to build an adequate foundation, would the structural strength of stone actually be capable of doing that?
@@chameleonx9253 Heaven, in biblespeak, stretches from the spring equinox to the autumn equinox (the six "days" in Genesis one). This is modified when the first night (Libra) is moved above the equinoctial line to get the seven "day" myth. This left five nights (Scorpio thru Pisces) representing the winter season (150 days) of hardship/rains/cold/darkness/hunger). See Rev. 9.5, where these five months harm, but not kill, man. The scorpion leader is none other than the constellation Scorpio.
If God is all-knowing and all-powerful, why couldn’t he stop the tower construction before it ever started? Why did he have to show up to see it? Apparently he was surprised by it because he had to react rather than prevent.
@@christinab.9427 How did they know that building a tower would upset God? Did God lay out a law that said "Thou shalt build no towers before me" before they came up with the idea?
My mom and I used to have an at home Bible Study years ago when we didn’t feel like going to church for it. It was easier and faster so I didnt mind it. Then this was the first story that gave me real pause. After we got to that part of the story and my mom turns to me and says “That’s how all languages were created, isn’t that awesome?” All I could think was “What?!” I don’t remember much other than just going along with it like “Woow” and I think that’s the moment my deconversion started even though it I didn’t actively pursue truth until I was nearly 30 years later.
9:00 My takeaway from the early versions of God was that he was originally more like the Greek Pantheon. A person with supernatural abilities, powerful when compared to humans, but not omnipotent or omniscient. Basically just an immortal wizard. But then the D measuring contest began as they tried to puff him up to look bigger than any other gods worshiped by other cultures.
It's wild how I still hold a trauma bond with Christianity. You decimated 97% of the hope I had in this myth. I sometimes still fall into prayer to Jesus because I suffer chronic pain daily and it eases anxiety to think I have a God that cares. This chronic condition really makes me wish their was a Jesus to heal me. I don't know what reality is and how it came to be. For all I know, their is nothing hearing me pray but myself. Possibly maybe a creator. Interdimensional aliens? The Archon? I am certain it's just me hearing myself. I just hope myself is enough. This place is really difficult and sometimes I feel like ending my time here sooner than my expiration date. Stay for humanity? Idk man. Lol I'm fighting though. Thanks for keeping it real. This is serious critical thinking. You're very wise. Keep deconstucting this myth. No myth should be taken as reality.
Kristi, thank you for the page; I stopped believing in the bible a while ago. For a short time, I had atheist-like beliefs. Eventually, I have come to believe that there is a higher being. There is much evidence of this being true (to me). I rebuke the Bible and Torah teachings as I no longer consider them divine. I see the bible as written by someone (no one knows who authored the Bible.) who wrote a series of stories based on how he saw the world around him. He wrote from a biased perspective; he wanted to control the people around him, so they would live as he thought they should. Again, the rest of the bible was stories from people who used their biased eyes and wrote them based on their views of what was “wrong” in the world and what they felt needed to happen to make people live according to their views. Very manipulative. So thank you for your step-by-step deconstruction of the bible; I either learn something new or am vindicated of my beliefs. Again Thank you
One day, the City hired an architectural firm to build a skyscraper to be as tall as my home above the clouds. They got a contracting company and lots of laborers for all the different disciplines, and started building this project. Halfway through construction, I decided to confuse their language so none of them could understand the plans nor understand each other. And I made the language thing contagious, so when they went home, everyone in their individual nations started speaking in their own new language. BTW, I don't live in the clouds. I am “beyond time and space”. R/AmItheAsshole
Thank you Kristi. You did a great job explaining the Tower of Babel. This was one of the most amazing story in the Bible. I may have read it hundreds of times, until I found out what it was all about. I shall explain. If you check the Bible calendar, the time is estimated to be around c. 3000 BC. It was around this time, that the family of the Hebrew patriarch Abraham traveled to Ur of the Chaldees in Mesopotamia. Abraham was born there. More than a hundred years ago, Sir Leonard Woolley, the son of a parson, was fascinated by the Biblical city of Ur. He was excavating in southern Mesopotamia, when he discovered the ruins of Ur. He also discovered a new civilization - the Sumerian civilization. The King James Version says: As men began to migrate from the east, they came to a plain in the land of Shinar (means small river). Here they made bricks and decided to build a tower that would reach up to the sky. The migrants were a non-Semitic people who were dark complexioned and called themselves the ''Black headed ones''. Apart from that they were city and tower builders, civil engineers, and architects. They were a literate people. They recruited the local Semitic tribes, who spoke different languages, to work at the construction site of the tower they were building. Abraham''s family also worked here. The migrants went one step further and made it compulsory for all children to learn their language. Thus ''all the world had one language'' and it was the language of the city and tower builders. The Hebrew god was very unhappy with the migrants and their progress. He caused a rebellion among the Semitic laborers and all the people left and the tower was not constructed. This is the gist of the story. These lines from Genesis are one of the greatest literary evidence in archaeology and history of the coming of the Sumerians to Mesopotamia. Indeed, the Sumerians came from the Indus Valley (c. 6000 -2500 BC) east of Mesopotamia. They brought the brick technology to Mesopotamia. The Sumerians were fugitives from the Indus Valley and also called themselves ''the fallen ones''. Their land was the land of mountains -the Hindukush, the Karakoram and the Himalayan ranges. Their home was in the Vale of Kashmir also described as ''paradise'' or Eden on earth. Little wonder that they were fond of building a tower. Their language was Archaic Tamil, the language of the Indus Valley. When I first saw the names ''Ur'', ''aar'', Ziggurat, I was baffled. these were Tamil words for city, river and tower. Presently the cuneiform writings are read in the Akkadian language, but every word in Sumerian is Archaic Tamil. Words like An, Utu, Kur, Ki, Ko, Annunaki, hulluppu are all of Tamil origin. To the Semites, the early Sumerian settlers appeared to be ''Giants in knowledge, Sons of god, Men of Renown and the ubiquitous ''Nephilims''. Genesis reports that these settlers married the fair Semitic girls and created a new race. This made the God of the Semites more angry and he destroyed them. Babel literally means confusion. This is the story of the Tower of Babel (Ziggurat)
The Hebrew God is the Sun. Sun worship is found throughout the bible…..For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly. Psalm 84.11. Upright = spring equinox - autumn equinox. "Then spake Joshua to THE LORD, and said, SUN, stand thou still upon Gibeon! So, THE SUN stood still in the midst of heaven. And there was no day like that, before it or after it, that THE LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man."-Joshua 10.12-14.
@@harveywabbit9541 The Hebrew God was the God of the Hebrews only. This God hated the non-Hebrews. If almighty God is so sick in mind, then surely there is something fundamentally wrong with God. I have no objection against a Sun God, but he should not discriminate people. Let the sunshine shine equally on everyone.
Imagine you are a member of an ant colony and all the ants are working together to build the biggest, most grandest anthill that ever was. Upon completion as you and all the other ants stand back and admire your accomplishment, a human comes by and stomps it into the ground. Man, that would suck, big time.
It's simple...Priest 1):"How do we explain all the different languages there are?" Priest 2):"I know, we'll invent some bullshit fairy tale about a tower, and the Lord doesn't like it for some vague reason, and scatters all the people all over the world, and that explains all the languages, problem solved!" Priest 1): "Umm, O.K., so long as we get to keep our privileged positions as priests, I don't really care!"
I feel like in a nutshell my whole conclusion to what I was taught in Christianity was: "You're with God, you okay, others aren't with God, they're all suckers"
In the original Hebrew, Shinar (שִׁנְעָר) is pronounced "Sheen-AR." But in English, it doesn't really matter how you pronounce it IMO. In Hebrew, the name "Babel" is actually pronounced "Ba-VEL" (בָּבֶל), but even the second "v" sound is technically the same letter as the first "b" sound, so we don't distinguish them in our Anglicization of the name. All that to say is that you can pronounce the names you encounter in an English translation of the Bible however makes most sense to you since they're all Anglicizations anyway. Sorry. I'm a Hebrew nerd. I love your channel! You're so good at gently guiding people through deconstruction.
"Of this name Shinar" says Dr. Smith (Bib. Dict.), "no traces are to be found among the Babylonian inscriptions," which admission is significant. "It seems," says the Doctor,' to be plainly Jewish, and unknown to any other people." Gesenius tells us “its derivation is unknown" (Heb. Lex., p. 1094). Fuerst, in his Hebrew Lexicon, is* equally at fault. Sir William Drummond, however, and it would seem with a good degree of plausibility, derives it from shan = the Sun, and naar = a boy, i.e., Shinar means boy-Sun = the New Year's Sun, the Ganymede (Joy-promoter) of the Grecians, and the Wish-you-happy-New- Year of the moderns. Thus, then, the whole earth, i.e., the people of the northern hemisphere, found themselves away down in the valley of Shinar, at the winter solstice, the birth-place of the Sun; in the valley of Hinnom, in Gehenna, in Sheol, in Hades, or in "the belly of Hell," out of which, it is said, Jonah cried so lustily. Jonah 2:2.) Here they set themselves at work, as honest people, to build a Tower whereby they might return to Heaven, or summer, or "the land flowing with milk and honey." They of course worked with a will, for, in the short space of three months, they constructed a "tower a furlong in length and breadth, upon which they raised a second tower, and on that a third, and so on up to eight." (Herod, 1, 181.) This vast edifice they surrounded with a spiral stairway which encircled it eight times. This was just sufficient to bring them up to the spring equinox. Here they were met by the Lord and his company (Sun in Aries = the "us"), who came down upon them with their March wind, overturned their works, confounded their language, and scattered them abroad upon "the face of all the earth" (Gen. 11:9).
It was shortsighted by God to scatter the languages. You'd think God would want to have his Word be as concise as possible. If there is a universal language, there is an easy-to-understand message. Scattering the languages creates translation errors which creates different interpretations of his messages and different denominations of Christianity. You'd think an all-knowing God would have been able to foresee that, but he didn't- or he didn't care.
What is the worth, value, and importance of the Bible and Jesus Christ? ANSWER - According to Atheists and Fanatics of Religions - 1. the Bible is worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. Jesus Christ and his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" are worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their lives and existence. What is the worth, value, and importance of Atheism and Religious Fanaticism? ANSWER - Atheists and Fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions who fill the world with their own lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation" will never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths. How do Atheists and Fanatics of Religions value their own lives, honor, dignities, and existence? ANSWER - Atheists and Fanatics of all Religions don't value their own lives and existence, not bothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, mockeries, opposition, and defiance of the Creator's Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings bring and cause their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall, and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. The TRUTHS about the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST that are offensive and not acceptable to all Atheists and Fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions in the world - Jesus Christ KNOWS that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The missionaries had to spend a lot of time to learn the local language or dialect in order to share the scripture with the local population of whatever language or country those people are in. Yeah, kinda backfired later on.
It’s clear to me that the story about different languages was only written to explain why there were different languages. This was written after the fact as a way to explain why a god would do such a thing and why it was ‘good’.
I appreciate that you present your videos, not in a mean or hateful way, or like you’re trying to mock Christians; you just say what you’ve observed and let us take it as we want to. Thank you for that.
I am deconstructing my Catholic upbringing still. It’s been a process over the last five years. Thank you for these videos and the guidance and freedom to look into this book in new ways.
How readest thou? The Lord is your strong tower! Because babel is a picture of works based salvation. They can't succeed. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."- Matthew chapter 12 verse 30. The result is confusion and scattering. "The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground? Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord."- Obadiah chapter 1 verses 3 to 4. You will try to nest among stars like space station. A nest built. "Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down: And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them:"- Amos chapter 9 verses 2 to 3. It was all FORETOLD. When the Lord Jesus Christ comes they will try to hide themselves under earth like deep bunkers. They will try to hide at the BOTTOM OF THE SEA FROM GOD. Do you believe men in middle of desert were able to go in submarines? No. On top of mountains, and in deep earth bunkers, at bottom of sea and eve nested among the stars there will be no hiding from Judgement. The earth was judged once and only those in the ark were saved because of God's grace. Next time God comes with fire. Get in the Ark of his Testament the New Testament the Lord Jesus Christ alone will save from judgement. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! By grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourself it is the gift of God not of works lest any man should boast!
@@MichaelAChristian1 Amen to that, brother. I would point out, also, that the fallen men of ancient times were very much involved in an occult form of astronomy, and that this was the motive behind building a tower. We see astronomical signs on many ancient buildings and structures, and especially on large ones. Whatever God does, Satan will try to copy. God's creative wisdom is seen in the stars; Satan offers the people merely the nonsense of newspaper astrology, and incredibly so many people take it seriously as some sort of daily guide or comfort blanket Just as Satan's slave, the Antichrist, will present himself as God when he puts the abomination of desolation into the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. And millions will take his mark and worship him as God, to their eternal dismay and regret. It is sad to see in these comments, so many people who will do everything to resist the truth. They take at face value the nonsense being spewed out by this warped woman and have obviously not in any way studied the facts, or the faith which they pour scorn on. And these self- blinded and deluded mockers so casually make ridiculous arguments which they themselves must know are not within the realm of any honesty or intelligence. The sad fact is that those who have no love for the truth, nor any desire to know it, will happily believe anything else but the truth, no matter how absurd or bizzare it is.
My interpretation of the Tower of Babel story was a means by which religious leaders would use to explain why there are so many languages in the world. Making it easy to not have to explain why there are so many other religions in the world as well.
The tower of Babel, along with many of the stories in Genesis, is a re-telling of the story found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian king. It's also a simplified re-telling. If one takes the time to read it, not necessarily take it as an infallible truth, then that person will see this account in a totally different light. For me, the most notable difference is the one she mentions here about the all the people speaking the same language. In the Genesis account, it is implied that all peoples everywhere spoke the same language, but in the original Sumerian text it's only those people working on the tower that spoke the same language, not everyone in existence. You can read this here on TH-cam by researching about Gilgamesh, Sumeria and Nimrod for starters.
Not gonna lie, the tower of babel could be a cool idea if its use for hotel vacations or for a earth crisis situations or for a personal paradise. For the personal paradise thing I know its sounds silly and childish but imagine that if theres towers in heaven like that LOL. Keep up the good work Kristi.
The Bible plagiarized a similar Sumerian myth similar to that of the Tower of Babel, called Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta, where Enmerkar of Uruk is building a massive ziggurat in Eridu and demands a tribute of precious materials from Aratta for its construction, at one point reciting an incantation imploring the god Enki to restore (or in Kramer's translation, to disrupt) the linguistic unity of the inhabited regions-named as Shubur, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (the region around Akkad), and the Martu land.
Babel can also be read as ram gate. Remember the tale of ram (Aries) setting and getting his horns caught in the thorn bush? The thorn bush is the winter season (sun in southern hemisphere). Babylon, like Egypt is the winter season. Shinar (boy sun) points to the winter solstice and December 25.
This story is constructed like a Greek myth as an explanation of natural phenomenon. Another theme it shares with a Greek myth is punishment for man's pride of trying to be greater than God. In Greek myths, people were routinely changed into animals for boasting they were greater than the gods.
I remember thinking this story made no sense when I was a kid but the my mom gave me some BS explanation that I of course trusted. I was right the first time
excellent approach and deconstruction. My approach of the towers silliness is the sheer mechanics of it. A literal handful of people engineering a city/tower whilst struggling to survive , farm, live. walls to keep livestock in or even fences would have been hard work never mind a skyscraper or pyramid.
The original model for that tower was the Sumerian ziggurat which was started to be built in many places across Mesopotamia; and you have to keep in mind that the Sumerians were technologically so advanced, I can recall how older people would say that it's the work of the devil when new technology was introduced
Decades ago, A close friend of mine, who was a few years older than me, and was a "bible belt Christian", explained the Tower of Babel stroy to me like this: "God was so impressed that people could accomplish so much, that he scrambles the languages of the world to see how amazing his creations really were". (as I remember). What a bunch of horseshit. No matter how you interpret this story, it is ridiculous. Another great video, Kristi.
Babylon, of the bible, has no connection whatsoever to any place on planet earth. Babylon is simply another word for the winter season where the "gate" is the winter solstice. All 12 signs have their gates. It is at the winter solstice that we find shinar aka boy sun. The plains of Shinar is nothing more than the winter season (iron). Spring = Gold and Summer = Silver.
When I was told as a kid that God felt the compulsion to stop the tower from being built because it would reach to heaven (which he couldn't abide), I had to wonder why he didn't then feel the need to later stop humans from developing airplanes that could fly high enough to reach there.
Or the tall sky scrapers that we have today
Or, you know, rockets that go into space.
Exactly. If he was so worried about a really high tower, you'd think he'd definitely knock satellites out of the sky. And why hasn't he judged humanity for learning how to translate languages, circumventing his will for them to be separate?
Maybe he relocated Heaven.
@@kevinbailey8827maybe to a time share.
This has become one of my favorite Bible stories. God basically says "oh shit, if humans work together they're too awesome. I have to mess that up!"
If we continued what about all those people who have future relationships to some people now they would have died if they kept going up there would be no air for them to breath
If god had an oh shit moment on what we planned on doing that would mean he cant be all knowing. Because if he already knew what we were going to do he would've given everybody a different language to begin with. the more i think about this shit the more i think this god is actually a human. He gets mad, jealous, vengeful, remorseful, thats sounds alot like us.
@@ExEoDuSPrevail2011 The reason why he took down the tower of bable is bc it could have driven lots of people to die possibly thats my hypothesis
that but it happened@@danielpaulson8838
It also makes 0 sense so there's that.
You know their rhetoric is abusive when the explanation to why God does horrible things is “because he can.”
It really explains why there is so much unchecked abuse in the churches.
@@jezebelvibes pastors and priests do it for the lord, altar boys and choir boys take it for the lord too. One way or another, the lord always wins
@@jezebelvibesThe church (in my experience) was the most abusive, hateful, and toxic environment I've ever been in. 😢
It's more like "God can do no evil, cause he's pure goodness. So everything that God does is good"
@@rennan1173 everything he does is good? Like drowning everyone when he had that hissy fit?
In Britain, there's a famous book called 'Just So Stories' (Rudyard Kipling, 1902) full of children's fables about why the elephant has a long nose (it was pulled by a crocodile), the leopard has spots (an Ethiopian helped him to hide in the jungle), etc. I always assumed as a kid that the Bible was just the same thing (where do people come from, why do they all speak different languages, etc); it's been eye-opening to discover that many Americans take these stories as literal truth.
The Hebrew scriptures = Pagan fables.
Oh, thankyou for sharing your story! I had forgotten that book was in my house as a child! My older siblings enjoyed the stories and read them to me. I was taken to church from the age of 8 years, but struggle as I did to convince myself it was all wonderfully spiritual and real, I could never quite convince myself. The talking snake and clothes, etc. My early start with 'Just So Srories' explains a lot! Thank you again for this revelation! 😊
I had that book!!!!!
As a Catholic Christian, I never understood why people thought the Bible didn't line up with science. I was never taught it was literal. Which is why so many Evangelicals accuse Catholics and Eastern Orthodox of not being "true Christians". I'll take that over fundamentalism. Of course we had our own problems, but literal Bible interpretation wasn't one of them.
@@karolinaska6836I think that growing up Roman Catholic, and having those same beliefs as you describe, is one of the reasons I held on to my faith as long as I did. I finally started actively deconstructing my faith in my late 20s (about 25 years ago now). I left Christianity within 4-5 years, but it took another 10 years before I finally realized that I was an atheist.
After all the revelations about the Roman Catholic Church in the last 25 years, I struggle to understand why anyone stays part of it. It’s a monstrous organization and deserves to be utterly dismantled, with all its insane, stolen wealth distributed to its victims or the descendants of its millennia of abuses.
The thing that always gets me about these stories is the fact that god is all-knowing and all powerful. He saw everything in advance. Why does he always get mad?
Usually, it is God's wife, the Greek Hera, who gets angry. Hera had every right to be the jealous goddess.
What evidence is there He got mad? You lie !
@@nickg5010 Uh, let's see: drowning the entire world. Burning Sodom down to the ground. Putting Abraham through the emotional torture of having to kill his son. God killing his own son, if you are Christian. God killing Job's family, burining his house down, destroying everything Job owned - so God could win a bet with Satan. And much, much more. Where is your evidence that the god of the Bible DOESN'T get mad? (Are you aware that Yahweh was originally one of about 80 Canaanite gods? Yahweh was the war god. Who was made into The One God by the Israelites. He behaves like a war god.)
@@nickg5010 Examples of God being mad/ angry:
' Even at Horeb you provoked the LORD to wrath, and the LORD was so angry with you that he would have destroyed you.' - Deuteronomy 9:8
'And in the Greatness of Your excellence You overthrow who rise up against You; You send forth Your burning anger, and it consumes them as chaff. ' Exodus 15:7
'Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation." Then Moses entreated the LORD his God, and said, "O LORD, why does your anger burn against Your people whom You have brought out from the land of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand?" - Exodus 32:10 -11
'Now the people became like those who complain of adversity in the hearing of the LORD; and when the LORD heard it, His anger was kindled, and the fire of the LORD burned among them and consumed some outskirts of the camp. - Numbers 11: 1
'By the breath of God they perish, And by the blast of his anger they shall come to an end' - Job 4:9
'So the LORD'S anger burned against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until an entire generation of those who had done evil in the sight of the LORD was destroyed. ' - 2 Kings 13:3
'Now I shall pour out My wrath on you and spend My anger against you....' Ezekiel 7:8
'In indignation You marched through the earth; In anger You trampled the nations.' - Habakkuk 3:12
But wait, there's more!
Also: Lamentations 2:2; Isiah 51:20; Isiah 13:9; 2 Kings 13:3; Matthew 21:12-13; Daniel 8: 19; Matthew 3:7; Romans 2:5; Jeremiah 7:29; Deuteronomy 31: 17; 2 Kings 17:18; 2 Kings 23:25 - 27; Palms 89:38; Lamentations 2:6-7; etc.
That's just 25 references. I will leave you to find the rest. I need a nap.
If only more trolls would give me such enjoyment, though! 😅
That's one of my big problems as well. He knew what Satan was going to do to his beloved human race, he knew billions of souls would go to hell forever because of the evil, he knew all of that before he created anything! But he still made Satan.
I remember when I started questioning Christianity, I came across your page on Tiktok. I thought “nah she’s too far gone” and was kinda careful while watching your videos
1.5 years later, I became agnostic, and I feel happy I found you. Thank you so much for your work!
😆 I love that. Happy you found your way out!
If God is not the author of confusion, then why did he confuse languages and people groups at the tower of babel ? A total contradiction
Great point!!
That was said about the gathering of believers. ‘With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.’ Psalm 18:26
Evil is disorder and chaos. Frustrating evil by undermining their ability to communicate creates the possibility of stability and productivity, that is, order.
God = summer = female.
Confusion = winter = male.
@@jeffryblair6816 I was thinking you made a good point until I thought about it.
Isn't it the law that let's us know what is good in God's eyes and what is evil?
The law was given for just that fact.There was no law.
So how then would they know not to build? They wouldn't know to build just as adam wouldn't have known the tree was forbidden wo gods warning.
The bible says where there is no law there is no transgression .
So why was Sodom destroyed.?
During the transatlantic slave trade, the masters purposefully tried to put people together who didn't speak the same languages to make it harder for them to communicate with each and revolt. What happened is that they invented pidgin languages which later became creoles. This scenario repeated itself in plantations in Hawaii as well. People who speak different languages don't necessarily just disperse into different linguistic groups. If the people at the Babel site were really determined, they would have invented a pidgin in order to complete the project.
One thousand percent! I think the whole book of Genesis is a story of slaves working in a Babylonian Hanging Garden (Eden). This is what these people did during the Babylonian Empire.
If the people have free will to leave, then they stick together with the group that speaks the same language.
They would not have spoken pidgin to continue the project.
I lived in Hawaii for seven years so I know what you mean by pidgin, you know bra. Da kine bra. Talk story...
Anyway, I also live in the Philippines and speak only English. Many around me don't know English very well. There is a neighbor who is from America. I naturally gravitate towards him and the Filipinos naturally gravitate towards one another.
If we travel just an hour from our home, the language switches from Kameo to Bisia. So, those who speak Bisia stay with those who speak Bisia. Those who speak Kameo stay with those who speak Kameo.
So, no you are wrong.
In slavery situations, yes a pidgin language may be developed, but in free will situations, the similar language unites and different languages divides.
The Bible is 100% accurate in this account of what happens when different languages are spoken.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 "So, no you are wrong." I guess that settles it, then.
It's interesting however, how the people who wanted to create a Jewish state in the Middle East found a mechanism to unite a people who spoke different languages. It that case, they didn't create a pidgin but instead revived a liturgical language.
If the Bible is 100 percent accurate then I don't understand how a people who spoke so many different languages came together for a project. And and this case it was more than just a tower; they built a state that survived various attacks by its neighbors. You might know the story.
It was no doubt a miracle of the Lord and since we're just stating things without evidence, who's to argue? 🤣
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying people spoke 100's of different languages and came together to build the tower of Babel?
Hell, look at Quebec. We're actively trying to not mix with the rest of Canada and our joual still has SO MUCH ENGLISH like one word out of 10 is frenchisized english anyway, and it's usually the important words (car parts, insults, appliances, the good important food (aka the pastries and the meat), and the TV/movie genres).
We can generally communicate with english tourists with just a bunch of pantomiming and just using the english parts of the joual.
Excellent critique, as usual Kristi. My question: How is it that God was threatened by a man-made tower that would have been, at the most generous estimates some 200 feet high? How was that going to make man as powerful as God himself?! And today we have skyscrapers 2,000 feet high! Is God threatened by One World Trade Center? Or the Burgj Khalifa? Why did he allow those to be built? And... how about flying--higher than ANY building... going to the Moon for crying out loud?! So much in the Bible makes absolutely NO sense. Thanks for your wisdom Kristi.
Thou shalt have no others towers before me!
Because those were primitive people writing that stuff, it just didn’t age well I guess 😂😂😂
Maybe God was mad about the twin towers. He got the terrorists to knock them down on 9/11
Kristi, I so enjoy your videos. I may be different than many of your followers in that I do believe there is a creator, but I don’t believe ANY religious doctrine or text. I do enjoy unpacking these stories and drawing my own conclusions.
Im not here to argue or convince anyone to my conclusions because the bottom line is that none of us know, so I don’t take anything at face value. In addition, I can see and respect why an atheist believes as they do.
Thank you for what you do.
Logic and reason don’t play much of a role in biblical narratives.
This world needs more people like you Kristi
I agree 💯
The world already has millions of people just like her, as we can see from the people making inane and ignorant comments on this site supporting her hate-filled nonsense.
@@williambunter3311 and the world doesn't need more people like you
@@williambunter3311 you just described christians
@@Ashclayton1994 No, because if I had done so, at least, unlike you, I would know when to use capital letters. What has amazed me on this site is the infantile grammatical errors constantly being made by atheists. Not a very smart lot, are you!
This is one of the stories that i first questioned in Sunday School. I drove the Sunday School Teachers crazy.
_"A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows."_ -Mark Twain
They told my mom it was best if I skipped Sunday School.
If your Sunday school teachers knew the bible better, they would have explained that the bible was referring to the practice of the black arts associated with the primitive beliefs concerning astronomy. Something which Kristi Burke is obviously ignorant of. Try doing some genuine study.
@@williambunter3311 first off, nowhere in the bible does it say that the builders of the tower of Babel were focused on Astronomy. It says their goal was to create a tower so tall that it reached the heavens. Nothing wrong with that, by the way.
Second, referring to Astronomy as black arts and a primitive belief? What the hell? Astronomy is neither of those things. Astronomy is not some dark and evil form of magic and it's not a simple belief system of primitives. Astronomy is the study of the stars, black holes, Galaxies, planets, moons, and the Universe itself.
@@psychonaut175 First off, the bible does not need to use the word 'astronomy' since it uses words in usage when it was written, Just as the word 'sociology'was used first only a couple of centuries ago, before which it was known only as one of the 'natural sciences'. Secondly, the people at the time of Nimrod knew nothing about black holes, dwarf stars, interplanetry gravitation, galaxies etc. But they were well aware that there was no way whatever that they could possibly erect a building that would literally reach up into the heavens. To take that expression literally is unbelievably gormless. They were not as thick as that would require them to be. But like the idiots today who plan their lives around their daily newespaper horoscope, they were full of superstition, and well involved in the occult.
You have tried to sound knowledgeable, but have ended up looking really silly. Which is only to be expected from anyone who is taken in by the garbage put out by this pathetic wanabee woman. If your comment was not so pathetic, it would be laughable.
I always wonder how smart it was to build a tower to reach heaven starting on a plain (instead of a mountain).
Well you do need a strong a big base. If it was a ladder the mountain would be good, but tower needs structure
Going down = summer solstice to winter solstice (I will decrease).
Going up = winter solstice to summer solstice (He must increase).
Wow I never thought of that before! An indication I guess of how “unthinking” I’ve been about this stuff. Thanks😊
@@francescocostanzo8225 Exactly, a base is needed. It was believed the "tower" really refers to a ziggurat (a stepped pyramid sorta) which are found thousands of years earlier BC/BCE
It's a metaphor for a way to travel to the universe. A Stargate
Thank you, Kristi, for creating this safe space for people to work through their deconstruction. I'm somewhat new to deconstruction, and, as an exvangelical, your videos are extremely validating for me.
Welcome to deconstruction! Be kind and patient with yourself 🥰 I'm really glad my videos have been helpful.
*“Wicked people* are the only kind I know how to create”
God
I don't get how Christians never contemplate this!
Having just returned from Dubai and seeing the Burj Khalifa, aka the tallest building in the world at 829.8 meters (2,722 ft), which is probably just a *smidge* higher than the Tower of Babel allegedly was planned to be, it’s weird how god doesn’t seem bothered by it. 😜
When I was in second grade in Catholic school, I clearly remember the nun reading this story and telling us it was true and that's how all the different people and languages came about. Even as a kid I knew it was made up and not true.
As someone who has worked in kitchens where as many as 4 different languages were spoken, this did not stop the work from getting done. If people already have any idea of what to do we just kept doing it and now I know how to say a bunch of kitchen lingo in 4 different languages.
I was about to say. Every construction site in the US is at least bilingual (English and Spanish) and the houses still get built.
Probably why he 'scattered them to the ends of the earth' as well
You would think if we all spoke the same language, it would've been a whole lot easier to understand the Bible.
This story is interesting in that unlike every other time his plans were being foiled by humans, God's solution wasn't murder. God was actually capable of _not_ killing people.
Yeah, it seems like God graduated from raw violence to covert manipulation to divide the community
When I subscribed to your channel I was hoping for this type of regular content. I know you're more prolific on TikTok but as a senior gentleman who doesn't know a great deal about social media and has no desire to view any content on TikTok I'm very pleased to see two wonderful TH-cam videos (of length) in succession.
Perhaps this type of regularity can't be expected all the time but I definitely applaud your output this week. I really enjoy your content Kristi, keep up the great work for all those struggling with these serious issues. Cheers from Ontario, Canada!
Indeed - I don't watch TikTok either.
@@Amazing_Mark Same here. I can’t afford another time-sucking social app.
And giving your personal data to the Chinese! After all, the US government wants to keep your personal data all to itself! 😂
I Second this! TH-cam is the only thing I use. And sure as hell wouldn't be caught dead on tiktok
I will never have anything to do with Chinese Communist owned and controlled Tik Tok. I am very pissed off that Americans use it at all. What the actual hell is wrong with people?
Amidst all of the ignorance, rape, slavery, murder, and genocide the Tower of Babel parable is perhaps the most offensive.
Why do you say so?
@@impracticalPhysics I nameth thee troll.
@@josephbelisle5792 I genuinely don't know why OP said what they said, and I would like to.
What a great analysis. Thank you. It reminds me of a quote from a beloved pastor I once knew who was gracious enough to tell us the quiet part out loud:
"Like it or not, God is in the business of glorifying himself."
It is not even a week I have come to this realization of what a god I have been believing all these years... everytime you analyze his actions I can't help but laugh at his character....thank you for unveiling truth to us🙏🙏
God was into the boy-toy thing. He fell in love with young Moses (Ganymede) and carried him on eagle wings to Mount Olympus. Ex 19.4.
@@harveywabbit9541don’t forget Yahweh’s foreskin fetish!
One language? What a crock!
I actually spent the first 12 years of my life with Zero religious indoctrination. Then when my Mom remarried, I was thrusted in Christianity and forced to go church. Right off the rip, I was full of questions and skepticism. I was never able to buy what they were selling! 😂🤙
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions KNOW that they freely and openly REJECTED -
1. the Bible as worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God
3. Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
4. the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their own lives and existence.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions don't KNOW and understand that worshippers of the Creator and believers of the Christ are NOT and will never be Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Catholics, Born Again Christians, or fanatics of any Religion and Cult in the world
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions KNOW that the authorities, will, and teachings of the Creator and his Christ are offensive and not acceptable to them.
Atheists, Agnostics, and Fanatics of Religions are simply offended, hurt, and angered by these -
All imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to the authority of Jesus Christ as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are definitely bringing upon themselves that Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
Atheists, Agnostics, fanatics of all Religions, worshippers of the Creator, believers of the Christ, and all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all loving, kind, and submissive worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the Creator's right and proper time, Jesus Christ will resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Follow The right way. Jesus Christ
My history was quite similar. I was brought up in a Catholic part of the Netherlands but my parents where not particular religious. Then, at school, I was prepared for first communion. From the beginning I thought it was stupid that a god would put that tree in the middle of a perfect garden. Everything went downhill from there.
Same here. But mine was Catholicism
Can you imagine the sort of smack down humanity would have received for inventing the internet? I mean if the Christian gods really existed.
And God said, if they create this system of knowledge and information, there is nothing they cannot do. Come, let us create social media to sow hatred, discord and rancor.
Twitter, the modern Prometheus.
@@nmappraiser9926And yet god is the biggest serial killer the world has ever known. Bahahahaha
@@nmappraiser9926 I couldn’t have said it better, chief.
@nmappraiser9926 I mean that's what's happened a lot of youth is going crazy especially In the superficial era why do you think more mass shootings will come? 63% of males single men and women in today's day in war
Now I ask WHERE is the beautiful people? They don't exist most ppl in this world are liars and two faced but ex Christians swear on their mommas that the world is beautiful but if THEY were UGLYYY they wouldn't be saying the world is beautiful
Wow - 2 long videos in one week! Rock on, Kristi! I love the way you break these issues down.
Thank so much! Hope you enjoy :)
@@jezebelvibes I absolutely despise that tiktok crap.
the "god" advanced by so many of these churches reminds me of my cruel, evil stepfather. He got drunk everyday, beat us all up, did everything he could to destroy any sense of self-esteem we might develop. And we were not allowed to complain about it, even to my mother...she played the role of jesus in as much as she apologized for his drunken insanity and told us he did it because he loved us. I'm sure my story is familiar to many people who grew up in the south, as did I, and the weird, cruel, manipulative, sadistic "god" they preach is just cover for their own inability to deal with their own issues.
I've often thought the same. God as an abusive father then gives a pass to all abusive fathers-- as is amply illustrated in the Bible.
Kristi is one very intelligent woman and that's a fact. ❤❤
Yup!
@@melgonz2087 WRONG the bible is necessary if you believe in jesus, otherwise your not a Christian.
LMFAO
@@melgonz2087 Name and prove one person has been brain dead and came back to life. Just one with undisputable evidence. I truly think you are a liar and a troll.
@@melgonz2087
You talk the talk but can NOT walk the walk. All Christians can do is quote scripture... The End. If one really reads and understands the biblical God. That biblical God is pure evil. We pray for you Christians to WAKE UP someday!
@@A-non-theistI'm not religious so don't get me wrong, but it really does depend. The Bible tells this but a number of scholars might disagree. There is evidence that the new testament was structured to fix the old testament and Jesus was not even speaking about the God of the old testament. They think he was speaking of another God all together. A question is there really is zero proof that Jesus ever claimed to be the son of God in the original oldest writings of the Bible. In fact, on a couple occasions in the Bible Jesus actually denies it.
One question I've always had is that humans have created hundreds of buildings and structures taller than the tower of Babel would have been since that story was written for pretty much exactly the same reasons (to show that they could, to be remembered) so why didn't God punish all those attempts, too? And if the issue was "trying to get close to the heavens" what about airplanes and space travel?
Great questions. I'll try my best to keep the answer short.
For one, everyone speaking the same language kept everyone in the same location, rather than obeying God to multiply and fill the earth (Genesis 9:1).
I can go into more detail about the difference between people speaking one language compared to speaking different languages if you like.
Secondly, God needed the events of human history to lead up to the perfect time for the Messiah to be revealed. The Tower of Babel story may have prevented this from occurring, so God intervened.
There is absolutely no need for God to intervene now. Everything has been accomplished.
Now, the antichrist needs to be revealed. Thus, unrighteous needs to flourish. So, humans being allowed to boast about what they make, etc needs to happen so the prophesied antichrist can be revealed.
After the antichrist is revealed, then Christ will come back to set up His Kingdom to show us what a righteous kingdom should look like.
So, anyway, I would be shocked if God intervened now to stop people from constructing tall buildings, etc. For, God needs this prideful behavior to occur and in greater amounts so the world will eventually be primed for the Antichrist to be revealed.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 But we know how new languages develop over time. For example, Spanish and English are relatively new languages that didn't come into existence at the time of the tower of Babel story. Languages gradually evolve over time. You can actually see the evolution of Spanish from Latin by examining old literature. The tower of Babel story is clearly a fable written by ignorant ancient men attempting to explain why there are multiple different languages instead of just one.
@@caribbeanman3379 We know how some languages develop over time. This doesn't mean the story of the tower of Babel is not true. The story doesn't claim all languages in the year 2023 were originally created at the time of the tower of Babel. No Bible scholar would agree to this.
Yes, many languages were created during the time of Babel, but not all languages.
However, what you need to answer is how did random processes create the complexities of languages, syntax, etc.
Why would there be so many languages? For we observe now that we are wanting to communicate with others and learn their languages, not create new languages.
It doesn't make sense to create a new language if everyone in the area speaks the same language.
I know this from personal experience. I live in the Philippines and those who speak the same language stay with one another. My wife has to know 4 languages because in her hometown she speaks Kameo. Then if we drive 30 minutes away, she has to speak Bisia. Then if we drive another 3 hours she speaks Tagolog.
Guess what? Those who speak Tagolog live with those who speak Tagolog. Those who speak Bisia live with those who speak Bisia. Those who speak Kameo live with those who speak Kameo.
This is exactly what was mentioned would happened in Genesis 11.
I'm not sure if you've visited other countries or not, but those who speak the same language live together.
We are social creatures. We naturally want to communicate with one another. Those that understand one another congregate together. Those who don't understand one another separate from one another. The story in Genesis 11 is exactly what is observed today.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 Humans spread out to isolated religions throughout the earth before complex language as we know it today, developed. So complex languages developed independently in multiple places. So that's how we have so many radically different languages.
There was also multiple humans species (ever heard of Neanderthals?) with slightly different anatomy. But such differences may have been enough for particular species to prefer certain phonemes over others based on make up of organs used in speech. But even racial differences can be significant enough to result in one group having a preference for certain types of phonemes as distinct from another. Then after multiple complex languages developed over time in multiple places, these languages also underwent changes over time, spawning even more new languages as populations of speakers moved to other isolated areas and/or experienced cultural and language influences from other communities speaking other languages. The English language is a good example of this. A Germanic language at its historical core, with lots of vocabulary influences from French, Latin and Greek.
@@letsfollowchrist7947 "Secondly, God needed the events of human history to lead up to the perfect time for the Messiah to be revealed." -
What makes you think this is true? What would be the perfect time for the Messia to be revealed and why? Furthermore these are not the reasons for god's actions in Babel story mentioned in the text. In Genesis 11:6-7 it says:
6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: *and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.*
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
In other words: according to god, people got too powerful. He felt threatened by humanity's rising power, which is a strange thing for an allegedly all-powerful and omniscient god to feel. He even feared that people would be able to do everything they can imagine. Really? Was he scared that humans could become gods because people can imagine that? This is a very bizarre story.
When I was re-reading this story, I asked myself why was God so mad at people just coming together and building a tower? What was so wrong about it? And if that's the case, why did he let humanity build so many skycrapers, probably taller than the tower of babel could ever have been.. I can't believe I used to believe this story to be true.
Excellent observation!
Thank you for covering this topic, it always bothered me growing up but none of the adults around me acted like it was a problem for them. The church made me spend my young life questioning my mind, and convincing myself other people reasoned better than me and should defer to there judgement for safety.😂 You should cover God asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, and he never questioned it despite not wanting to because this kind of demand was completely in God's character and he was afraid of Him. This caused an unsatisfying argument with my mom when I was young. That was probably the first big crack in my ability to believe but it took at least 15 more years to loosen the fear enough to admit it to myself for good.
I've definitely got abraham and isaac on the list!
Let's say if atheist was wrong could atheist admit to it or no?
@@jezebelvibes do one on god's obsession with foreskins! I suspect he has a trophy room full of discarded foreskins, but i need proof.
Also that Christians only talk about Abraham and Isaac because that's the child sacrifice that god stopped at the last moment. But they never talk about the _other story_ where the daughter really is sacrificed to god as a burnt offering.
That one doesn't apparently count to Christians as human sacrifice because female.
Christians don't realize that the first born sacrifice was THE ULTIMATE burnt offering if you had REALLY screwed up. Israelites were doing it a lot. The entire religion hinges on the first born sacrifice of god's son. Think about it.
Another great episode! You're a trooper Kristi.
I have thought about this before and cannot understand why I just accepted it years back. It does seem true from the bible that God and "them" do not want humanity to achieve and grow. It is mind boggling.
Same here. I think we just were not conditioned to question anything from the Bible when we were kids. Then as we got older these stories took on a mythological quality, but I still never stopped to question why the stories were part of the Bible at all. I hope these videos help folks to start to question everything! It is time to move on from this messy, backwards-looking belief system!
When I was growing up, I was always told, that I shroud do what Gods wants me to do with my life when I get older. Like if I don't get a job I want its God's will not mine. I always got very upset being told that, because if God gave us free will, then why can't we peruse what makes us happy in life?
I spent six months in Casablanca, Morocco. On one of the two occasions that I visited the city of Marrakech 150 south of C.B., a fellow told me that he was taking me through one of the older babs. Confused, I asked what is a "bab". Turns out, in Arabic and related Hebrew, bab means "gate". Il is Canaanitish for "god" (el in Hebrew and al in Arabic) and the suffix "on" is possessive. Thus, Babylon means "gate of the gods". When the Israelites ( isra 'el -fought with god) were slaves in Babylon, they saw the old Sumerian ziggurats which were temples. The Babylonians believed that the gods (Marduk, Ishtar, etc.) came down from the temples and passed through the gates to go see the world. Some of these ziggurats are over 200 feet tall - a huge height above the plain of the Euphrates river. In the city of Babylon, one might hear Babylonian, Assyrian, Sumerian, various forms of Persian, Hebrew, and other languages as well. The priests spoke languages that the Hebrews could not understand. Thus the Biblical story to explain it.
Pretty much, though I suspect the origins are older. A lot of their stories seem to have an anti-city sentiment. Possibly from when they were still nomadic herders who had a dislike , for some reason, for the great cities of the East, before they built their own cities.
I'm no expert, and I don't have solid evidence of that, but it's how all the tidbits coalesce in my mind.
@@OneEyed_Jack jeb6314 is correct the bible was written in the 6th century when the Judahites were in Babylon.
The bible dates itself with cities and countries that did not exist before that time
@fordprefect5304 🤦♂️
When it was written doesn't necessarily coincide with when all the _stories_ originated. They also weren't all written at the same time. It's not a single book. A lot of the OT "books" are patchworks of older stories, the origins of some of which are almost certainly older than Isrealites having proper writing.
That said, I could certainly be entirely wrong, and am probably at least partially wrong, but it remains that a number of the stories, ToB included, have a distinct anti-city leaning, which doesn't square well with the displaced Israelites being being largely _from the city._ (Jerusalem)
@@OneEyed_Jack *with when all the stories originated*
*True* some books were written in the Northern Kingdom which fell in 721.
Amos, Isiah, Hosea, Micah, Song of Deborah, etc
I will qualify my statement by saying the *Torah* was written in the 6th century and some in the 5th.
[Genesis 11]
11:27 Now these are the descendants of Terah. Terah was the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran was the father of Lot.
11:28 Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his birth, in *Ur of the Chaldeans*
*The Chaldeans do not take control of Babylon (Ur) until 626BCE*
Therefore it could not have been written before the 6th century.
This guy explains it better than me.
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Fascinating
I'm a Christian but I do appreciate your input.
I can't justify the tower story.
You have really thought it out.
I love your videos! When I was very religious, I would be troubled by these things that you point out, but I would fall back on what all fundamentalists are told. "God's knowledge is above ours and when we get to heaven he'll explain it all to us." I let a church tell me that what I knew didn't make sense, was true.
Looking back on it, so many of the unanswerable questions I had were deflected with "Well when you get to heaven you can ask God."
The issue is that the question usually has to do with something that doesn't make sense about God/the Bible so it's not a satisfying answer to just say "Ignore your doubts and just hope you're correct so that you can one day get the answer."
God not existing is a pretty big issue to just file away under "ask after you've already given your entire life to the church."
Awesome work KRISTI. You would make a great debater against Christianity
She IS a great debater of Christianity.
@@undrwatropium3724 I meant if she went around the country and did this LIVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY(sort of like what Matt Dillahunty, if you know who he is does), basically, it would be like her versus a Christian, or a Muslim, or whichever religion us person. It would be interesting debate with a live audience.
@@GodlessFiend yes. She already does that on TikTok
@@undrwatropium3724 i’m talking about going around the country and debating with other debaters (kind of similar to Mr. dillahunty) not just from TikTok. I’m talking in front of a live studio audience in front of hundreds.
* Christians (rather Christianity) would have clarified your point. 😊 Yes, I totally agree! I am not sure if she knows about other religions to debate them. But Christianity is certainly her specialist subject!
Lol the mythology is actually pretty fascinating to read when regarded as a work of fiction. It tells the story of a petty tyrant. An evil god. A powerful bully who demands sycophantic behavior and is so insecure that he constantly puts his followers through heinous "tests of loyalty".
He feels SO insecure that if his followers demonstrate too much independent thought (question his rules, or organize themselves for a large-scale project), he has to knock them down a peg to keep them believing that they are reliant upon him.
Basically an a-hole so caustic that even the Greek pantheon would have thrown him out of Olympus for being too malignant to put up with.
He makes for a _fascinatingly malignant_ character.
Any all knowing god should have known that they wouldn't have been capable of building a 60 mile high tower!
Especially not out of mud brick.
We catholic raised, when my brother and I had questions, which could not be answered in a logical way, we were told we would understand when we got to heaven, which we knew that was the end of the conversation. I'll be honest, we were somewhat affected by the crap we were being brainwashed with, we were saved by realizing it defied logic or the way regular people behaved. Thankful skepticism and logic gave ind of an inoculation against all the abusive crap.
I took an anthropology course in college that focused on the history of languages on earth, and the myth of the Tower of Babel was touched on as just another myth! It astounds me that so many “religious” types believe this stuff without question! 🤣😂🤣😳
Indoctrination can make you believe crazy things
You people are never done 'virtue signalling' your superior grasp of 'this stuff'.
@@nickg5010Oh, you really are Christian? I thought you must have been trolling with the God getting mad/ angry thing. My apologies!
@@daniellamcgee4251 I know where I stand in relation to the other faiths. I'm probably not a good example of one because I get angry and curse too much.
I find it truly unbelievable that one so young and with such little learning knows so much. You are so amazing Kristi.
I find the reverse more unbelievable: That so many young people still believe in nonsense like gods despite having the entirety of human knowledge at their fingertips.
It doesn't seem like Kristi has 'such little learning' to me. 🤔 It seems evident to me that Kristi has learned a huge amount, and been on a steep learning curve, since she started questioning her own religion.
@@FinckelsteinNot quite the entirety....I keep hitting the walls of the internet's limitations, but I get your point! Unfortunately, there is so much misinformation more attractively packaged for young people, on multiple social media platforms.
I guess a lot of the people who then left the tower-project and went to live elsewhere also completely forgot about the existence of the bible god and made their own religions, hindu, buddhism, ... a bit counterproductive I guess,... not the wise all loving father figure you'd expect him to be, rather an insecure child...
As a story it's kind of cute, it tries to make a continuity between the earth being repopulated by just one family and why there's so many different cultures and languages now...
It's also a reconfirmation that this god is a textbook narcissist... they seem to not need him that much, he goes and has a look, sees they're pretty happy and peacefully working on their project, and boom, he sabotages the project...
you don't know God's mind.
@@acrombb2 sure, he wants you around for all of eternity and he wants to torture me, that's so sweet.
@@marcdc6809 So you want no consequence of your disobedience? wow.
@@acrombb2 that's nonsense, if I would commit a crime I would face justice, cheat on my wife, face consequences, this is not anything different from what a belief in god can help you with, there's probably some misconceptions and false sins in there, things you can do that have no real consequences, the coveting, which is indeed a thing you should not let take the better of you, but making it a sin if there are no consequences is over the top.
@@marcdc6809 so coveting is not bad? wow. I'm not here to argue to some dumb guy.
I would love to see you on The line call in show as a guest host alongside Matt Dillahunty answering theist callers. They always have new hosts on
The book of Genesis is like an ancient version of 'Just So Stories'. For 'how the world got so many languages' substitute 'how the elephant got his trunk'.
Exactly! The actual name of the book (which literally means "origins") should clue religious readers into the fact that it's a book of Jewish 'Just So Stories' attempting to explain the origin of many things: the earth, sun, moon and starts; plants, living animals and humans; how animals got their names; shamefulness of nakedness; clothes; painful childbirth; hard labor; different languages, nations and ethnicities; rain and the rainbow; why snakes/serpents don't have legs; origin of certain musical instruments; why wild animals fear humans; why animals killed for food are bled; the origin of the Jewish people beginning with the Noah's son Shem; etc.
It very much sounds like it. And Adam & Eve as well (why do we have to work hard and die?), as well as Noahs Ark (why are there catrastophes? Why is there a rainbow?)
Let us divide mankind - May they remain distracted with war .
I say this on all of your videos. I admire your empathy and your eloquence ❤
agreed!
Gosh, another middle of the night video for us Australians 🇦🇺. But not to worry, I'm sure it'll be worth it! 👍
This story began the unraveling of my faith. I was deeply entrenched in the fundamental Christian worldview because I grew up knowing nothing else. My dad is a Southern Baptist pastor and I was taught that these stories were literal history. Fast-forward to me studying linguistics in college and realizing that different languages develop over time and not in one snap of God's fingers. I understood then that this story was not true, and that made me begin to question EVERYTHING. I lost my faith at the Tower of Babel.
My deconstruction from growing up in an evangelical church was doing mushrooms when I went to college. That was in the 1970s. Easter sermon traumatized me with the adults saying amen when the Angel killed the babies in Egypt if blood of a lamb wasn’t smeared on the door.
I remember reading this story and thinking, " So God is the reason for racism, and prejudice"?
You are one of the few people that actually get it right.
As a child I used to love reading Bible stories but I think that much of the Bible is symbolic.
As a really early reader I loved the Greek, Grimm's, and Aesop stories and realized the existence of symbolism moral tales. When was old enough, my parents sent me to Sunday School and Vacation Bible School, I already had a place for magical creatures and events, talking animals, etc and quickly realized how really BAD the Bible stories were and how completely ridiculous this God character was as Kristi has been pointing out. After about a year of that nonsense, my parents decided that it wasn't working and I think they pretty much gave up on it themselves when they discovered their kid wasn't buying any of it.
If god wanted to confuse people by creating different languages then he failed because we were able to learn and communicate with different people from different cultures and different languages.
God is a bit short-sighted lol
As a recovering Baptist from years ago who has already deconstructed, I'm loving your content. Currently reading Dan Barker's "God The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction." Also "The Skeptics Guide to the Universe" is a must read also.
I looked up Dan Barker because of this. Didn't find the book you mentioned, but I'm massively attracted by the title -- because my revised look at the Abrahamic god shows me an EXTREMELY unpleasant character.
I must compliment you on your mind. It's incredibly organized, and your speech is very fluid. Such a pleasure to listen to you talk😊
Good stuff, thanks Kristi. So many bible stories are supplemented with other information that didn't come from the bible in order to attempt to fill in logical holes. It's a carnival game - keep the cards moving too quickly to track them accurately.
simply put... you are an amazing and beautiful person. please, never stop the fight to help save the indoctrinated, brainwashed victims from their manipulative, emotional abusers. you are an inspiration to me and i hope continue to be an inspiration to many on a daily basis.
though i will continue to be an arrogant, obnoxious, fed up, nasty atheist, i thank god for the well spoken, intelligent and gentle free thinkers like you. 😊
keep up the awesome work.
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions are fully aware and KNOW
that the Creator is not stopping them from glorifying the LIES and deceptions of his enemy, Satan the Devil and spreading throughout the world their own LIES, myths, fictions, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation".
Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions are fully aware and KNOW
that the Creator is not forcing them to submit to the authority of his Christ and believe his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
The Creator KNOWS
that all Atheists, Agnostics, and fanatics of all Religions will not be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his Biblical authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
The Creator KNOWS
that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854
The "creator" is the Phallus and is called "the rock that begat thee", in Deuteronomy 32.
@@harveywabbit9541 What is REAL TRUTH? and....
What are REAL LIES?
Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults are fully aware and KNOW
that they are glorifying the LIES and deceptions of Satan the Devil and spreading throughout the world their own LIES, myths, fictions, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation".
The Creator KNOWS
that all Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults will not be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths.
Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, SDAs, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Born Again Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions and Cults are fully aware and KNOW
that they don't submit to the Biblical authority of Jesus Christ and don't believe too his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his Biblical authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe too his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
The Creator KNOWS
that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@harveywabbit9541 It takes more than a phallus to create things! It would certainly be a different world if that was the case. Add all the accompanying equipment to the phallus and pubescent boys in their bedrooms would be caught in the act of creating ecosystems. 😊 Teenage boys could save the planet by school excursions for re-wilding! 😊
Thanks so much for your deconstructions! So intelligent, so helpful!
Glad you like them!
"He's playing SIMS" 😂
That's my anxiety trauma in three words, thank God I can fearlessly joke about it now
Fun fact: When space exploration was first being proposed in the early 20th century, some Christians were against it because they thought we'd be invading God's territory and pissing him off just like the builders of the Tower of Babel.
This is one of my favorite stories from the Bible (probably because I'm a language/linguistics enthusiast), and it really frustrates me that there are people who are take this story literally. There's clearly a message in there about how humans could do seemingly impossible things if we just cooperated, but instead they go with the easily debunked face-value reading.
Does anyone with an engineering degree know if it's actually possible to build a tower high enough to breach the atmosphere? Like, if you hypothetically could find a building area large enough and flat enough to build an adequate foundation, would the structural strength of stone actually be capable of doing that?
@@chameleonx9253
Heaven, in biblespeak, stretches from the spring equinox to the autumn equinox (the six "days" in Genesis one).
This is modified when the first night (Libra) is moved above the equinoctial line to get the seven "day" myth. This left five nights (Scorpio thru Pisces) representing the winter season (150 days) of hardship/rains/cold/darkness/hunger). See Rev. 9.5, where these five months harm, but not kill, man. The scorpion leader is none other than the constellation Scorpio.
@@harveywabbit9541 Uhhh... okay? Are you okay, dude? Do you need me to call someone?
God confounded human cooperstion and ingenuity. Why didn't God know that humans could not reach heaven?
@@voxpopuli348
Zeus knew that the people would not realize when they are already in Heaven.
If God is all-knowing and all-powerful, why couldn’t he stop the tower construction before it ever started? Why did he have to show up to see it? Apparently he was surprised by it because he had to react rather than prevent.
These are my thoughts as well. :)
Maybe it was giving humans the freewill to 'do the right thing' and not make the tower. Pff
@@christinab.9427 How did they know that building a tower would upset God? Did God lay out a law that said "Thou shalt build no towers before me" before they came up with the idea?
@celticbabs3105 lol. What didn't upset god?
Plus, it is not for us to know the mind of god. OoooooooOOOooo ~
@@christinab.9427 exactly LOL - Damned if we do, damned if we don't
Oops! I fell asleep 😴 before I could finish watching the video. 😮
But it's now past sunrise 🌅 here in Australia 🇦🇺 and I'm going to try again.
My mom and I used to have an at home Bible Study years ago when we didn’t feel like going to church for it. It was easier and faster so I didnt mind it. Then this was the first story that gave me real pause. After we got to that part of the story and my mom turns to me and says “That’s how all languages were created, isn’t that awesome?”
All I could think was “What?!” I don’t remember much other than just going along with it like “Woow” and I think that’s the moment my deconversion started even though it I didn’t actively pursue truth until I was nearly 30 years later.
9:00 My takeaway from the early versions of God was that he was originally more like the Greek Pantheon. A person with supernatural abilities, powerful when compared to humans, but not omnipotent or omniscient.
Basically just an immortal wizard.
But then the D measuring contest began as they tried to puff him up to look bigger than any other gods worshiped by other cultures.
It's wild how I still hold a trauma bond with Christianity. You decimated 97% of the hope I had in this myth. I sometimes still fall into prayer to Jesus because I suffer chronic pain daily and it eases anxiety to think I have a God that cares. This chronic condition really makes me wish their was a Jesus to heal me. I don't know what reality is and how it came to be. For all I know, their is nothing hearing me pray but myself. Possibly maybe a creator. Interdimensional aliens? The Archon? I am certain it's just me hearing myself. I just hope myself is enough. This place is really difficult and sometimes I feel like ending my time here sooner than my expiration date. Stay for humanity? Idk man. Lol I'm fighting though. Thanks for keeping it real. This is serious critical thinking. You're very wise. Keep deconstucting this myth. No myth should be taken as reality.
Kristi, thank you for the page; I stopped believing in the bible a while ago. For a short time, I had atheist-like beliefs. Eventually, I have come to believe that there is a higher being. There is much evidence of this being true (to me). I rebuke the Bible and Torah teachings as I no longer consider them divine. I see the bible as written by someone (no one knows who authored the Bible.) who wrote a series of stories based on how he saw the world around him. He wrote from a biased perspective; he wanted to control the people around him, so they would live as he thought they should. Again, the rest of the bible was stories from people who used their biased eyes and wrote them based on their views of what was “wrong” in the world and what they felt needed to happen to make people live according to their views. Very manipulative. So thank you for your step-by-step deconstruction of the bible; I either learn something new or am vindicated of my beliefs. Again Thank you
"I want a full earth" so when I wipe it out again ots worth my time 😂😂😂
One day, the City hired an architectural firm to build a skyscraper to be as tall as my home above the clouds. They got a contracting company and lots of laborers for all the different disciplines, and started building this project.
Halfway through construction, I decided to confuse their language so none of them could understand the plans nor understand each other. And I made the language thing contagious, so when they went home, everyone in their individual nations started speaking in their own new language.
BTW, I don't live in the clouds. I am “beyond time and space”.
R/AmItheAsshole
the r/ tag sent me 😂
@@whatwecalllife7034 In most of the stories in the Bible, God is the bad guy. Even in a more favorable light, God is _merely_ an asshole.
Hail Kristi! We need our "Tabla Raza" so we can start over and reimagine our God. You arre the first step in the process.
Thank you Kristi. You did a great job explaining the Tower of Babel. This was one of the most amazing story in the Bible. I may have read it hundreds of times, until I found out what it was all about. I shall explain. If you check the Bible calendar, the time is estimated to be around c. 3000 BC. It was around this time, that the family of the Hebrew patriarch Abraham traveled to Ur of the Chaldees in Mesopotamia. Abraham was born there. More than a hundred years ago, Sir Leonard Woolley, the son of a parson, was fascinated by the Biblical city of Ur. He was excavating in southern Mesopotamia, when he discovered the ruins of Ur. He also discovered a new civilization - the Sumerian civilization.
The King James Version says: As men began to migrate from the east, they came to a plain in the land of Shinar (means small river). Here they made bricks and decided to build a tower that would reach up to the sky. The migrants were a non-Semitic people who were dark complexioned and called themselves the ''Black headed ones''. Apart from that they were city and tower builders, civil engineers, and architects. They were a literate people. They recruited the local Semitic tribes, who spoke different languages, to work at the construction site of the tower they were building. Abraham''s family also worked here. The migrants went one step further and made it compulsory for all children to learn their language. Thus ''all the world had one language'' and it was the language of the city and tower builders. The Hebrew god was very unhappy with the migrants and their progress. He caused a rebellion among the Semitic laborers and all the people left and the tower was not constructed. This is the gist of the story.
These lines from Genesis are one of the greatest literary evidence in archaeology and history of the coming of the Sumerians to Mesopotamia. Indeed, the Sumerians came from the Indus Valley (c. 6000 -2500 BC) east of Mesopotamia. They brought the brick technology to Mesopotamia. The Sumerians were fugitives from the Indus Valley and also called themselves ''the fallen ones''. Their land was the land of mountains -the Hindukush, the Karakoram and the Himalayan ranges. Their home was in the Vale of Kashmir also described as ''paradise'' or Eden on earth. Little wonder that they were fond of building a tower.
Their language was Archaic Tamil, the language of the Indus Valley. When I first saw the names ''Ur'', ''aar'', Ziggurat, I was baffled. these were Tamil words for city, river and tower. Presently the cuneiform writings are read in the Akkadian language, but every word in Sumerian is Archaic Tamil. Words like An, Utu, Kur, Ki, Ko, Annunaki, hulluppu are all of Tamil origin. To the Semites, the early Sumerian settlers appeared to be ''Giants in knowledge, Sons of god, Men of Renown and the ubiquitous ''Nephilims''. Genesis reports that these settlers married the fair Semitic girls and created a new race. This made the God of the Semites more angry and he destroyed them. Babel literally means confusion. This is the story of the Tower of Babel (Ziggurat)
The Hebrew God is the Sun.
Sun worship is found throughout the bible…..For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly. Psalm 84.11.
Upright = spring equinox - autumn equinox.
"Then spake Joshua to THE LORD, and said, SUN, stand thou still upon Gibeon! So, THE SUN stood still in the midst of heaven. And there was no day like that, before it or after it, that THE LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man."-Joshua 10.12-14.
@@harveywabbit9541 The Hebrew God was the God of the Hebrews only. This God hated the non-Hebrews. If almighty God is so sick in mind, then surely there is something fundamentally wrong with God. I have no objection against a Sun God, but he should not discriminate people. Let the sunshine shine equally on everyone.
Thank you.
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The Hebrew Scriptures are 100% Pagan sourced and are very corrupted when they are made to favor any person or group of persons.
Excellent!!! Keep spreading the truth!!!
Imagine you are a member of an ant colony and all the ants are working together to build the biggest, most grandest anthill that ever was. Upon completion as you and all the other ants stand back and admire your accomplishment, a human comes by and stomps it into the ground. Man, that would suck, big time.
It's simple...Priest 1):"How do we explain all the different languages there are?" Priest 2):"I know, we'll invent some bullshit fairy tale about a tower, and the Lord doesn't like it for some vague reason, and scatters all the people all over the world, and that explains all the languages, problem solved!" Priest 1): "Umm, O.K., so long as we get to keep our privileged positions as priests, I don't really care!"
Having read a lot of mythological stories in my youth, this story to me is just another myth about how language came to be.
I feel like in a nutshell my whole conclusion to what I was taught in Christianity was: "You're with God, you okay, others aren't with God, they're all suckers"
You are my new favorite human!❤
God was intimidated a lot in the OT by his own creations.
In the original Hebrew, Shinar (שִׁנְעָר) is pronounced "Sheen-AR." But in English, it doesn't really matter how you pronounce it IMO. In Hebrew, the name "Babel" is actually pronounced "Ba-VEL" (בָּבֶל), but even the second "v" sound is technically the same letter as the first "b" sound, so we don't distinguish them in our Anglicization of the name. All that to say is that you can pronounce the names you encounter in an English translation of the Bible however makes most sense to you since they're all Anglicizations anyway.
Sorry. I'm a Hebrew nerd. I love your channel! You're so good at gently guiding people through deconstruction.
Thanks so much for sharing this! That was helpful! 😁
"Of this name Shinar" says Dr. Smith (Bib. Dict.), "no traces are to be found among the Babylonian inscriptions," which admission is significant. "It seems," says the Doctor,' to be plainly Jewish, and unknown to any other people." Gesenius tells us “its derivation is unknown" (Heb. Lex., p. 1094). Fuerst, in his Hebrew Lexicon, is* equally at fault. Sir William Drummond, however, and it would seem with a good degree of plausibility, derives it from shan = the Sun, and naar = a boy, i.e., Shinar means boy-Sun = the New Year's Sun, the Ganymede (Joy-promoter) of the Grecians, and the Wish-you-happy-New- Year of the moderns.
Thus, then, the whole earth, i.e., the people of the northern hemisphere, found themselves away down in the valley of Shinar, at the winter solstice, the birth-place of the Sun; in the valley of Hinnom, in Gehenna, in Sheol, in Hades, or in "the belly of Hell," out of which, it is said, Jonah cried so lustily. Jonah 2:2.) Here they set themselves at work, as honest people, to build a Tower whereby they might return to Heaven, or summer, or "the land flowing with milk and honey." They of course worked with a will, for, in the short space of three months, they constructed a "tower a furlong in length and breadth, upon which they raised a second tower, and on that a third, and so on up to eight." (Herod, 1, 181.) This vast edifice they surrounded with a spiral stairway which encircled it eight times. This was just sufficient to bring them up to the spring equinox. Here they were met by the Lord and his company (Sun in Aries = the "us"), who came down upon them with their March wind, overturned their works, confounded their language, and scattered them abroad upon "the face of all the earth" (Gen. 11:9).
It was shortsighted by God to scatter the languages. You'd think God would want to have his Word be as concise as possible. If there is a universal language, there is an easy-to-understand message. Scattering the languages creates translation errors which creates different interpretations of his messages and different denominations of Christianity. You'd think an all-knowing God would have been able to foresee that, but he didn't- or he didn't care.
What is the worth, value, and importance of the Bible and Jesus Christ?
ANSWER -
According to Atheists and Fanatics of Religions -
1. the Bible is worthless and useless, just a book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. Jesus Christ and his Biblical teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" are worthless and useless, no value whatsoever in their lives and existence.
What is the worth, value, and importance of Atheism and Religious Fanaticism?
ANSWER -
Atheists and Fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions who fill the world with their own lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "rapture", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", and "reincarnation" will never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictional Hell but just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths.
How do Atheists and Fanatics of Religions value their own lives, honor, dignities, and existence?
ANSWER -
Atheists and Fanatics of all Religions don't value their own lives and existence, not bothered and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, mockeries, opposition, and defiance of the Creator's Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings bring and cause their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall, and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
The TRUTHS about the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST that are offensive and not acceptable to all Atheists and Fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions in the world -
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who submit to his authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8.
The Creator KNOWS
that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his loving, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The missionaries had to spend a lot of time to learn the local language or dialect in order to share the scripture with the local population of whatever language or country those people are in. Yeah, kinda backfired later on.
It’s clear to me that the story about different languages was only written to explain why there were different languages. This was written after the fact as a way to explain why a god would do such a thing and why it was ‘good’.
I appreciate that you present your videos, not in a mean or hateful way, or like you’re trying to mock Christians; you just say what you’ve observed and let us take it as we want to. Thank you for that.
I am deconstructing my Catholic upbringing still. It’s been a process over the last five years.
Thank you for these videos and the guidance and freedom to look into this book in new ways.
How readest thou? The Lord is your strong tower!
Because babel is a picture of works based salvation. They can't succeed.
"He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."- Matthew chapter 12 verse 30.
The result is confusion and scattering.
"The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord."- Obadiah chapter 1 verses 3 to 4.
You will try to nest among stars like space station. A nest built.
"Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:
And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them:"- Amos chapter 9 verses 2 to 3.
It was all FORETOLD. When the Lord Jesus Christ comes they will try to hide themselves under earth like deep bunkers. They will try to hide at the BOTTOM OF THE SEA FROM GOD. Do you believe men in middle of desert were able to go in submarines? No.
On top of mountains, and in deep earth bunkers, at bottom of sea and eve nested among the stars there will be no hiding from Judgement. The earth was judged once and only those in the ark were saved because of God's grace. Next time God comes with fire. Get in the Ark of his Testament the New Testament the Lord Jesus Christ alone will save from judgement.
Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! By grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourself it is the gift of God not of works lest any man should boast!
@@MichaelAChristian1 Amen to that, brother. I would point out, also, that the fallen men of ancient times were very much involved in an occult form of astronomy, and that this was the motive behind building a tower. We see astronomical signs on many ancient buildings and structures, and especially on large ones. Whatever God does, Satan will try to copy. God's creative wisdom is seen in the stars; Satan offers the people merely the nonsense of newspaper astrology, and incredibly so many people take it seriously as some sort of daily guide or comfort blanket Just as Satan's slave, the Antichrist, will present himself as God when he puts the abomination of desolation into the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. And millions will take his mark and worship him as God, to their eternal dismay and regret.
It is sad to see in these comments, so many people who will do everything to resist the truth. They take at face value the nonsense being spewed out by this warped woman and have obviously not in any way studied the facts, or the faith which they pour scorn on. And these self- blinded and deluded mockers so casually make ridiculous arguments which they themselves must know are not within the realm of any honesty or intelligence.
The sad fact is that those who have no love for the truth, nor any desire to know it, will happily believe anything else but the truth, no matter how absurd or bizzare it is.
My interpretation of the Tower of Babel story was a means by which religious leaders would use to explain why there are so many languages in the world. Making it easy to not have to explain why there are so many other religions in the world as well.
Confusion refers to the winter season, like in God (summer) is not the author of Confusion (winter).
That's exactly what I was taught in Sunday school. The first part of your comment.
The tower of Babel, along with many of the stories in Genesis, is a re-telling of the story found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Sumerian king. It's also a simplified re-telling. If one takes the time to read it, not necessarily take it as an infallible truth, then that person will see this account in a totally different light. For me, the most notable difference is the one she mentions here about the all the people speaking the same language.
In the Genesis account, it is implied that all peoples everywhere spoke the same language, but in the original Sumerian text it's only those people working on the tower that spoke the same language, not everyone in existence.
You can read this here on TH-cam by researching about Gilgamesh, Sumeria and Nimrod for starters.
Can you cover the story of Job sometime?
I love your takes on these things.
Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I’m loving this Bible story’s great content
Not gonna lie, the tower of babel could be a cool idea if its use for hotel vacations or for a earth crisis situations or for a personal paradise. For the personal paradise thing I know its sounds silly and childish but imagine that if theres towers in heaven like that LOL.
Keep up the good work Kristi.
The tower represented the power of a human king, he could affirm his totalitarian control with it, idea rejected from the spirit
The Bible plagiarized a similar Sumerian myth similar to that of the Tower of Babel, called Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta, where Enmerkar of Uruk is building a massive ziggurat in Eridu and demands a tribute of precious materials from Aratta for its construction, at one point reciting an incantation imploring the god Enki to restore (or in Kramer's translation, to disrupt) the linguistic unity of the inhabited regions-named as Shubur, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (the region around Akkad), and the Martu land.
Babel can also be read as ram gate. Remember the tale of ram (Aries) setting and getting his horns caught in the thorn bush? The thorn bush is the winter season (sun in southern hemisphere). Babylon, like Egypt is the winter season. Shinar (boy sun) points to the winter solstice and December 25.
This story is constructed like a Greek myth as an explanation of natural phenomenon. Another theme it shares with a Greek myth is punishment for man's pride of trying to be greater than God. In Greek myths, people were routinely changed into animals for boasting they were greater than the gods.
I remember thinking this story made no sense when I was a kid but the my mom gave me some BS explanation that I of course trusted. I was right the first time
excellent approach and deconstruction. My approach of the towers silliness is the sheer mechanics of it. A literal handful of people engineering a city/tower whilst struggling to survive , farm, live. walls to keep livestock in or even fences would have been hard work never mind a skyscraper or pyramid.
The original model for that tower was the Sumerian ziggurat which was started to be built in many places across Mesopotamia; and you have to keep in mind that the Sumerians were technologically so advanced, I can recall how older people would say that it's the work of the devil when new technology was introduced
I love hearing your thoughts on the interpretation of biblical stories. I just subscribed too. Good luck
Awesome! Thank you!
Decades ago, A close friend of mine, who was a few years older than me, and was a "bible belt Christian", explained the Tower of Babel stroy to me like this: "God was so impressed that people could accomplish so much, that he scrambles the languages of the world to see how amazing his creations really were". (as I remember). What a bunch of horseshit. No matter how you interpret this story, it is ridiculous. Another great video, Kristi.
Babylon, of the bible, has no connection whatsoever to any place on planet earth. Babylon is simply another word for the winter season where the "gate" is the winter solstice. All 12 signs have their gates. It is at the winter solstice that we find shinar aka boy sun. The plains of Shinar is nothing more than the winter season (iron). Spring = Gold and Summer = Silver.
I feel the same way you do about the stories in the bible.
Gotta say, I love these
Happy you're enjoying them!
What I get from the story is that if you try to build a tower you magically get to learn a new language 😂