6 Times Jesus Wasn't all Peace and Love
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2023
- In this episode I talk about six times Jesus didn't seem to be spreading a message of love and peace. Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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Hi guys! I meant to add that when Jesus is referring to the woman and her child as "dogs" he seems to be using a word for dog commonly used when referencing a pet dog, not a stray dog-as was the typical insult. This could change the interpretation, though I don't think it really changes the strangeness of the interaction or his unwillingness to immediately help a woman in need. He seemed more eager to make a point than to actually assist her. Thought it was important to share so I'm not misleading!
Surely a being that's capable of manufacturing planets wouldn't leave his word open to interpretation by letting goat herders scribble it down.
You'd think that he'd be able to write " I'm not asleep" across the sky if he so wished.
This is one of the things that draws me to your channel: you respect truth, accuracy and clarity.
Do you realize you know more about the scriptures than most Christians? Proud of you.
I hope you have a book coming out soon.
@@williamburton8984 agreed... Don't start the first chapter with "In the beginning" though.
People say that atheists just cherry picking bad parts of the Bible, but the fact that there are bad parts to be found in the first place, goes against their logic.
Exactly, it should be impossible to find ANY such pages in the Bible even when "cherry picking".
A perfect god's book should be clear and impeccable.
@@h.g.wellington2500 Exactly. Which means there is no "God's book".
@@itsROMPERS...I would go even further beyond that point!That is to say an all knowing, all good God that is all powerful would not even allow for the possibility of his word being mistaken as having bad part's in it.
@@Raiden-the-Goat32 Exactly. If almighty God can't communicate perfectly to man, he's not really a God, so there's nothing to believe in.
I’m so glad you included the verse about the only proper reason for divorce is sexual immorality. I separated from my “Christian” husband due to DV and SA. My Christian friends disproved and called me an adulteress. My Christian college and my church also supported my now ex-husband. I was in fear of my life and could have really benefited from their support. It’s 35 years later now and it still hurts 😢.
I think that I’d rather he cheated on me than rather than the violoncello I faced.
So sorry you had to go through that. Unfortunately, it's an all too common experience for women in the conservative Christian church, even today.
The biblical gaslighting is so manipulative and abusive that passing it on to younger generations needs to be banned.
If someone over the age of 18 chooses to read that shit and believe it, that's their business, but engaging in the child abuse of brainwashing anyone under the age of 18 needs to be recognised as such.
Sorry for asking, but what is DV and SA?
@@ertymexx Domestic Violence and Sexual Abuse, so you can see why people don't want to spell them out.
@@pineapplepenumbra ah, sorry to hear that. And thamks for explanong. Yes, I undetstand. :-(
I am sooo grateful for you. I am a recovering Baptist who was raised in the same cult that the Duggars are in. My ex-husband’s family was on an episode of that show, even. We were deep in it. This is the very first time I’ve E V E R seen Jesus as a cult leader and wow. So much clarity and immediate relief of deeply buried guilt. THANK YOU.
A lot of organized religions don’t teach the truth,this is not a reflection on Jesus.
Yes, Christianity was a cult until, the Roman Emperor, Constantine made it a State religion in 325 AD or, thereabouts.
@@alexharvey452 It is arguable though that it distorts and warps the actual image of Christ, though.
@@alexharvey452sounds like a typical excuse. Christians do have their arsenal of them memorized.
@@alexharvey452the jesus/ christ of the NT are fiction anyway. It's literally psychological propoganda and was intended as such. Sadly, it's worked. Unless people are prepared to use an open mind, which is rare to find as christians by default are closed-minded. 😢
I like that Kristi is very calm and level-headed when deconstructing and discussing her topics. She makes for a good listen-along while you are doing household chores or exercising. Thanks so much, Kristi. This is also very therapeutic.
Thank you so much! 🥰🫶
@@jezebelvibes
maybe there is something about having withstood pain, that may somehow give a gift to heal.
She's a moron. She totally forgot that the Bible has been interpreted and reinterpreted by man. The books of the Bible were written by the people that lived through the Era of Christ. Man screwed it up but it's still readable with faith.
Satan has a beautiful soothing voice.
@@dogelife7901 or maybe that is just the voice in your own head. have you checked around to see if anyone else hears it?
I had a Christian friend die about 2 years ago. His oldest son took it hard and ended up going to a fundamentalist Church and also contacting a televangelist. He was told by one or the other that his father died because he didn't pray right.
My first thoughts were "What a bunch of a$$holes for telling him that"
Every day I have reinforcement for rejecting all that crap.
That's not Jesus like of those supposed Jesus-Family they make Jesus have a bad name thankfully Jesus saved me and I have a new heart, a heart of flesh and understanding from the Holy Spirit! I hope you're chosen by Jesus' Father! ✌️😁👍✝️📖
Some Christians are really phonies. Jesus called them "wolves in sheep's clothing" (Matthew 7:15)
@@PolymorphicPenguin Every Christian is a phony to another Christian. Conservative Christianity and Progressive Christianity might as well be two completely different religions at this point. Conservative Christians certainly believe they are.
@@p-0h0h_HolyPriestKingforJESUS "that's not jesus like"
I don't care if you think it is jesus like or not. It is a problem among you Christians. Christians need to speak out against the evil in your ranks before offering that bullshit to anyone else. It is a mess created in a corrupt system or systems. Each on thinking the other is bad. Plus there are con-artist and Christians do nothing about it. I don't want to hear that crap.
I don't know where you came from before joining the church and frankly I don't care. Your "feelings" don't make your experience with a god real. It is still just in your mind.
@@EnglishMike "every Christian is a phony to another "
Well said but they don't try to correct it.
I'm glad that you mentioned that Jesus was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher! Someone else pointed that out to me when I was deconstructing (I feel like I am still deconstructing even though I'm an atheist now because I am unlearning and learning so much still) and when they pointed it out, so much of the Bible made so much more sense to me. I feel like I have a much better understanding of Christianity now, and I become more confident in my unbelief.
Yeah, it clarifies a lot of things, including some of what sounds like really terrible advice from Jesus. For instance, if someone wants to sue you, give them twice as much as they want. I think everyone would recognize that as really bad advice. Certainly no Christian would follow it. But it makes a little more sense when you realize Jesus thought God was about to intervene to wipe out the forces of evil and everyone allied with them.
You are right. It make perfect sense in that context. But I still struggle with indoctrinated guilt because he’s made into such a victim that just wants to love everyone. All the images of him crying and bleeding on the cross. Ugh 😣 can’t get it out of my mind. It’s so clear now and yet I’m still brainwashed somehow.
@@reneets5729 You are not alone. You and I (and many other people) have been indoctrinated. That is not a character flaw on our end, it just means we have to work on ourselves.
For example, I am very good at being kind and patient with other people because I was indoctrinated to believe that "God loves everyone, so you should too." Obviously, being kind and patient with others is a good thing and I don't want to change that about myself, but I need to change my reasoning.
BUT! On the negative side, I am not very patient and kind to myself because I was indoctrinated to believe "you are a sinner and you deserve to go to hell." So I need to completely change the way I see myself, and I'm getting better at it, but I still really struggle with it.
Changing the way you see everything takes time and is a lot of hard work. It's a lot of unlearning and learning new things. It's hard, but you aren't alone and struggling is understandable.
@@DannyS177 Thank you, I appreciate your response and awareness. My experience also showed me how poorly I treat myself and I’m trying to work on it. To believe I was so horrible and “sinful” not only caused issues within myself but my relationships, and it actually breeds judgments in others when you see those “sins” in them too. Even if it’s hard deconstructing, I believe am doing better now than I was when in the religion.
Just wanna tell all of you that being indoctrinated into a cult is NOT a show of poor character. I'm a lifelong atheist and had the fortune that my mom is an amazing person who didn't force me into this nonsense. I can't even begin to imagine how hard and taxing it is to get out of this. Leaving a cult and losing ones entire support structure is infinitely more challenging than never having been part of a cult in the first place.
jesus hated figs and cursed fig trees. I planted two fig trees in my yard so I suppose that jesus hates me. When people tell me that 'jesus loves you', I point this out and say, 'how can he love me when I plant fig trees?"
😅 Jesus doesn't care a fig about ficus, or ficus enablers!
😂😂😂 thanks for your comment, I learnt something new. I too have fig trees that I love so much and I am a Hindu and I don’t mind Jesus hating me.
@@GirishV-bf9cy 😃
As I read the story he liked figs but was pissed off with the tree because it didn’t have any for him even though he went out of his way to get some. So he used his super powered faith to kill the tree. Kind of a jerk in that story. It’s not like the tree deliberately withheld its fruit. It just didn’t have any. If the tree didn’t have what Jesus wanted it should die, right? I can imagine some guy with an armful of figs who got to the tree before Jesus seeing what happened and thinking “oh shit, I’d better get out of here!”
Yall funny as hell
Congratulations, Kristi, on finding your way out of religion. I'm an atheist & grew up in a atheist family. Thereffore I can only imagine how difficult it would have been to break away. No doubt you would have lost many connections such as family & friends. I really enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the great work. Jason😊👍👍
We all are with Chirsti.
What's interesting is that in this video, Kristi takes issue with Jesus for warning his followers that if they follow him they will lose connection with family and friends. And this is "cultish." And now, here in the comments, we have people congratulating her for breaking away from friends and family...almost as if she had joined a cult...
That’s only the case because her Christian friends believe she is now going to hell. She does not believe that about them though.
@@freerein4ever641You see how Jesus was right. Everything He said will come true and already is coming
Another thing about divorce, it was only permissible for men to divorce their wives but women were not permitted to seek divorce from their husbands. Women were considered chattel.
It's because of the promiscuity without control only destruction comes along women cheats takes men money home kids etc sometimes kid isn't even his like example the Ex Muslim girl who married that basketball player perfect example and men sometimes does the same and effects can be the same but men must pay women don't have to
Marriage needs to DIE its 2023 most humans are scamming raging abusive narcissists that's never going to change
@@FamilyIsGone Women don't have to pay child support? I am curious to know which country you live, because that's certainly not true in the countries I know of. Also. the original comment was about women not being allowed to divorce men, i.e. being treated as men's property, not human, and therefore being denied basic human rights. Consider the innumerable women in Biblical times who would have been subjected to a slave life, and unable to leave psychological and physical abuse. In other words , this wasn't the occasion to raise modern men's concerns.
@daniellamcgee4251 Daniel it happened to my family members in USA
Jesus said that a man that divorces his wife was an adulterer.
Once I learned of the mistranslations and contradictions in the Bible, I lost my faith. But what really did it for me was the treatment of women. Please do a segment on this, as most Christians don't even take it into account, or worse, accept it.
I'll add it to the list!
@@jezebelvibesThose were different days but until this day jesus was the best thing for women compared to the usual treatment. Jesus came with a sword not to unite but to divide good and evil. Or so I've heard somewhere.
This world system has an expiry date on it.
It's very close to that time..
Various elements making up this corrupt system are all coming to that point too..
Rev 11:18.
Earlier in that chapter are hidden facts which identify those God has been instructing to enable the selection of suitable individuals
he intends to preserve into the new world..via the temple arrangement.
Press V and see.
@@jasfan8247 "different days .. jesus best thing for woman compared .. sword not to unite .divide ""
Well that's an excuse for his silence. But then there is always an excuse for the bad things in the Bible and efforts to make them less disgusting.
But for me unless the supernatural events can be proven first, I put no stock any any claims he was / is a god.
I’m here via MindShift, who has very quickly become my favorite atheist channel. He recommended your channel in his video posted today. I’m always so happy to learn of another atheist channel and it’s wonderful to see a woman doing it!! I look forward to binging this weekend!😊
Well said! Some of these evil bible passages actually haunted and abused me while I was religiously delusional. Thanks for the great work!
@@sepulvedablvd7846 Thank You! I'll check them. Somehow, my filters aren't the same now.
Edit:- Traumatizing bible verses indeed. They're threatening. I love Jesus because of his intension and ultimate thing that he has done for the human's sake but still I can't forget the nature of the deity represented by the bible itself and who I experienced(paranoid delusions or whatever). Therefore, I'm not gonna fall into this trap again. I'm not listening to the voices whispering as my meds help me way better. The sentences you pointed are surely manipulative.
@@sepulvedablvd7846 By the way.... I didn't allocate time to watch her video on "Why Jesus did something which is not a must" but I think it would give me more understanding about more facts. Anyhow, I thank you for your intension of saving my soul.
@@ridgemonthigh8h4a convenient that you can pick and choose which passages are "infallible truths" and which are "metaphorical"
Although so too was Leviticus 25:46... or Numbers 15:32.
Infallible truths... totally not embarrassments, later.
Anyway, what's your wider point? Or take Romans 8:30 - another infallible truth.
Yet also at odds, with true and honest, free will.
Anyway, who are you to set what is metaphorical or not - if you do not even run a denomination?
Or fulfil, John 14:12, either... maybe.@@ridgemonthigh8h4a
I have had a problem with those exact scriptures. I can’t even count the number of times I prayed for my daughter’s healing. From the time she was an infant only six days old until she died at 39 I prayed every single day. In Jesus name, in tongues, using scripture in my prayers, laying hands on her, had her prayed for at church, by friends, by family - literally every way I could think of. She was never healed. Now I am broken as well. You are right, healing is a lie. If doctors can’t help, there is no help. Religion is a destructive fantasy.
I've met a couple with a girl age 20 with down syndrome. The couple never had a chance to live life to the fullest like any other normal people. I feel so sad for them. Though they're not Christians but Buddhists, they did pray for healing, but it never happened. But i asked myself, what if they're Christians, will the girl be healed?
I disagree just because you didn't get help doesn't mean others haven't and were all going to die anyways no?
@@sootuckchoong7077believing In God doesn't grant healing only Jesus did those miracles those miracles don't happen anymore because Jesus isn't on earth
can you prove others have been "healed' all those tv faith healers were/are frauds..?? No you can't ,,,,because they don't exist.. how dare you tell someone who prayed for her daughter daily for 39 years that she is lying... Go away and stop trolling for Jesus !!
take your nonsense elsewhere , stop trying to con others for "jesus"
Yes! Thank you. Even as a child, I always thought Jesus sounded "mean" sometimes.
the whole god needs a human sacrifice in order to forgive people is ludicrous on its face
He(jesus) gets inconvenienced a lot by the people and fig tree he's supposed to love but he has a ego to maintain 😂.
I think god needs psychological counseling to work thought some issues and maybe some God prozac.
He also needs to learn to take responsibility instead of blaming bad things on the devil.
@@CuffsmasterAnd he should have attended creation college before he set the ball rolling - and an anger management course would have been useful.
The "God is Love" verse takes on a whole different meaning.
You know the Bible so well. Your breakdown and unpacking of things is out of control. I love it. I can't stop watching your videos. Keep it going please.
She doesn’t know the Bible , or Jesus . “ God did not send his son to condemn the world , but that through him the world might be saved “ John 3 :17
You must be asking good questions Kristi because your comments section is positively FROTHING! New viewer. Digging the content.
thank you!
No such personage ever walked this Earth . Never said or done anything.Just a repackaged edition of much earlier far more ancient ideas about birth and death .Mary is a new,Jewish edition of the ancient "goddess" ."Snake goddess" .Holding a "newborn" with both sporting crowns 3000 BC Crete . Relationship with lunar phases is clearly depicted in many Christian art examples .Serpent,triangles etc,etc.Cheap plagiat stolen from other cultures .So any brainstorming about what Bible verses have to "say" lol is absolute BS and waste of time ."Jesus saying lol" My ass.Nonsense.No such thing as God either . Christianity is highly immoral religion with horrific ,bloody past and present .Theft,genocide, persecution,wars ,prejudice and bigotry is all it has to show for itself . Anyone associated with it is very insecure,primitive and really ought to be ashamed of themselves .Nothing good or redeeming about Christianity .No "interpretations" No such thing as Jesus.Waste of breath.😮
Kristi, keep doing what you’re doing. You get your thoughts across very clearly and effectively. It takes a lot of strength to go against the grain, and you do it in a kind, respectful manner that gets people to really think about and examine their faith. Looking forward to your next videos.
Thanks
Many of These supposed christians are not apart of JESUS' Family they are apart of Devils and they just want your money...
@@samwestover9953 why are you here TROLL boy?
@@samwestover9953 And you believe what ignorant primitives wrote about "god" 2,000 years ago. That's some low standards you have!
@@samwestover9953 Kristi is reading passages from the Bible. You don't believe them?
“that gets people to really think about and examine their faith”
No, Kristi doesn’t have anything to do with my faith. I’m Christian and don’t believe in the god she portrays. She is not espousing Christian belief. She is promoting her own distortions of the religion of Jesus Christ as if it is Christianity.
Thank you so much Kristi. I truly appreciate what you do. I've been struggling to find a community now that I left the church some years back and I've found one.
This is your new community? That's sad. It's just a TH-cam channel.
It's a place to chat and listen to people with common sense and reason who were once in a cloud of mystical beliefs when you step back and think things through its important to find new networks with the ones that have found the same path out of the maze ...
@@Nonbeliever9493 You don't know what you are saying. It is obvious that you have never known Jesus as your Lord and Savior. If you have an ideas of fantasy they all instantly vanish with the new birth by the Spirit of God.
@christophergibson7155 For you to assume that we never met "Jesus" is foul. You don't know people's path. Believe me, I used to spend HOURS in church seeking him and praying and if he didn't reveal his "true self" to me that's on him. On my part I know I did everything I could to seek him.
@CanIbeWithThee You're sad. I'd rather spend time in the internet with rational thinking smart people than with people who believe humans are inherently sinful and deserving of hell just for EXISTING when our very own existence is because of a narcissistic monster god.
Don't forget that JC made a fig tree to wither because it had no figs at the time he felt like having some. So much for 'love is patient, love is kind..."😂
How come Jesus didn't just make the fig tree suddenly burst into fruit? At least as easy as water into wine, I should think.
Maybe his miracle chops a bit 'off' that day?
@@douglascutler1037Lol, probably. But yeah ruining fig tree= bad karma
@@douglascutler1037the menfolk in my family keep telling me of their miracle....they can change wine into urine!! 😂😂😂😂
@@QuestionThingsUseLogic Seen God a few of times myself doin' that and similars.
I know you probably don't care but the cursing of the fig tree was a metaphor about the Pharisees ( the church leaders) of that time. When Jesus, their supposed long awaited messiah came looking for good works in the church he found none. He was cursing the church. Eventually the main temple was destroyed and most Jewish people still don't accept him as the Messiah.
"This foundational metaphor for Israel’s spiritual health vividly blooms in the prophetic era. The time had come for God’s people to yield fruit that would bless the world (Isa. 27:6). Several times the prophets describe God as inspecting Israel for “early figs,” as a sign of spiritual fruitfulness (Mic. 7:1; Jer. 8:13; Hos. 9:10-17)-but he finds “no first-ripe fig that my soul desires.” So in two exiles (Assyrian and Babylonian), God pours out the curse of barrenness (Hos. 9:16), and Israel becomes a rotten fig (Jer. 29:17)." ( Directly quoted from buildingjerusalem.blog/2018/10/04/why-did-jesus-curse-the-fig-tree/)
My mother was diagnosed with cancer when I was 10 years old. I was brought up in Christian faith and read the verse that said with faith everything is possible. That you can command a mountain to move and it will move. So with the massive faith of a 10-year-old I prayed to God (day and night) to heal my mother. But He didn't. She died a slow painful death.
Honestly, I'm sorry your mother passed in a horrible way.
If I lost someone in a horrible way
as a christian If had faith and he did not answer.
I definitely know it would not have been my faith According to Matthew 17:20-21 cause all I would need is small faith to be enough.
If the Lord didn't answer my prayers I would be broken and angry but I wouldnt doubt his existence cause history and my experience with mircles and demons iv seen are evidence to me, cause honestly i just can't say well God doesn't exist which is dumb cause I be ignoring my experiences.
I would've sought the Lord for a clear answer that he would speak to me himself face to face and tell me why.
I wouldn't curse him but I would be angry and honest and speak about my feelings about this.
Some people will say trust in the lord in all you ways.
Which is not wrong, I know christian martyrs died horrible ways but that's a whole different long topic.
As human being who is in deep grief I would push away any Christians who using scriptures basically saying "Trust God or God's plan always works out " I would honestly say leave me alone let God give me the answer for he could speak for himself no one needs to speak for him cause he's God.
This i know, that God is not afraid of are questions.
Hopefully your mama is heaven even tho you don't believe in heaven exist.
@@justadude-qr1bz Praying is nothing but self-deception. You're in a helpless situation and can't do anything about it. Prayer gives you the illusion of doing something, although it has zero effect outside your head and you're basically just talking to yourself. Your telepathic message won't arrive anywhere. That's why it doesn't matter whether you pray for something or not, the same sh*t happens to praying Christians as to anyone else, there is no measurable difference. But even if there were a God, why do you need to pray at all? Doesn't this God know about it and needs your help to understand the situation?
I appreciate that you always include the bible verses. Love your videos and explanations☺️
I appreciate that! Happy to have your support!
You need Holy Spirit to understand the bible
@@p-0h0h_HolyPriestKingforJESUSstupid excuse to believe a ridiculous story...
@@samwestover9953 There is no hell. Stop being so gullible. What she's doing is teaching you how ridiculous your book is. And you should be thankful for that. Maybe one day you'll find your way out of this cult thanks to her.
@samwestover9953 So you'd rather follow someone without allowing yourself to question if they're actually good, because they claim that you'll be hurt if you don't? That's just self preservation at the price of your morals. Understandable, but please don't pretend that obeying the tyrant who's threatening you isn't done out of fear.
I'm definitely not worthy of the Jesus' love because I happen to love my family.
You're a sane person. Congratulations.
If you hated your family you would not be worthy of Jesus's love. Jesus said if you hate your brother (or sister, mother etc, ) whom you can see, how can you say you love God whom you cannot see?"
@@jameshogan6142 So either way I'm unworthy... Brings to mind Python's "That's a fair cop." :D
No you are doing just fine. Charity begins at home. Honour your father and mother etc.@@mannyguyson
This is why you must read the word in the spirit! Reading from a carnal mind will cause you to misunderstand the spiritual meanings of it all. The Messiah wasn’t saying to hate your family as in wishing harm upon them or being rude to them. Hate meant to be able to turn away away from them or their actions if they put you in a position to where you are in opposition to the Creator.
I love this!! So many times I thought Jesus was a real jerk. All my life I've been told Jesus is love, God is love, but when I read the bible (and interacted with other christians) I didn't see any love
Dude was a jerk.
@@benedictdonald4338how he died for humanity
Yeah how could a guy who was a "Jerk" lay down his life for human beings?@@elijahdelossantos7853
“Greater love has no man than this , that he should lay down his life for his friends . I have called you friends. “
Read the Gospel of John and you will know God loves you
@@jwsanders1214
If god loves me,i will definitely not be burned in hell & sadistically tortured for eternity for doing literally NOTHING!
Thank you❤
You make me feel like I am not alone
You are definitely not alone 🫶
Great content, Kristi. The mustard seed faith thing reminded me of a series by Lisa Ling, Our America (faith healers episode) where this guy in a wheelchair believed he would be healed, and he wasn't (no big surprise there).
I love these videos!!! Keep them coming!!!
Kristi, I LOVE your channel. Keep up with this never ending content. New subscriber
Thanks for subbing!
😅eastren tonight I will prove Jesus power. Warning it is intense. Negative energy will creep out yr feet tell it's time
@@raya.p.l5919 You can’t even speak proper English. You can’t prove anything
my personal favorite:
"26 “I tell you, to all those who have, more will be given; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.”’" Luke 19
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Ah but you are misreading verse 26. 😉 I offer this bit of special revelation at no charge:
Jesus was actually foreshadowing Markovnikov’s rule (organic chemistry) for the addition of an aprotic acid HX, across an asymmetric double bond. My organic prof put the rule succinctly: “them that has gets”. And to think that it was not until 1870 AD that science “discovered” this ancient wisdom embedded in the very life of molecules!
Unfortunately, there is also the Kharasch effect, which describes ant-Markovnikov behavior. Damn. But, everyone knows in their hearts that organic chemistry is a divine mystery. I offer my personal experience as an attestation.
@@dantallman5345que
Sounds more like words from a certain person, tribe or king.
@@dantallman5345where in the fuck did you get that out of that verse??
You put into words many of the things that always bothered me about the Bible...all the cherry picking of verses etc. Well said!!!
You're very refreshing, Kristi. I'm through the anger phase (mostly) and your softer, and kinder manner is lovely. This channel is what I'm looking for.
Thank you.
Keep teaching us, you're doing fantastic!
Thank you so much for the support!
@@jezebelvibes I can't subscribe fast enough. I've had it with all of these damn Jesus-freaks!
@@jezebelvibes
Hiya therio kristi kristi how are you😢😢❤❤
anger is not an invalid emotion. just try to FOCUS it toward energy to make a difference.
14:10 I remember this verse in church, when the pastor spoke of it, he acted like it was a sin for the man to bury his father, and grieve, he said the man was committing sin by doing this
It’s because touching a dead body is considered unclean
Kristi, I just realized I’ve finished watching all your videos - More Please!!!
So smart. Intelligent, reasoned, thoughtful, accommodating. Reasonable. Ms. Burke is the best. I can't be that way myself. Im glad that she can .
She truly has the patience of a saint
@kilgoretrout3099: why? Why can't you be all those things.you seem to be selling yourself short.peace to you,shalom.😊😊😊😊
It's because she may have the Holy Spirit and I pray she comes back to Jesus! God knows.
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She is a saint I believe! she must return to Jesus Amen!
@@terrycraig6386
Amen we need Holy Spirit! SHALOM!!!
Really needed this dose of reality today. Thank you! Xx
Very good, Kristi. You do a really good job presenting these. Your remarks about faith and the mustard seed is so true. I left a great deal to move across country in order to devote myself to living for the faith in a like minded community. Oh, yea, I had a mountain of faith, but could not move a mustard seed. The more devoted I became, the crazier I became and so did the people of like mind. I’m done with blaming myself for not having enough faith. Therein lies madness.
Criticizing Jesus Christ is like a person with a broken back who does not have the humility to ask for help . That’s madness !
I always struggled with those verses, so thank you for perspective. Here's another one - the story of Jesus cursing the fig tree for not bearing fruit. His manner always struck me as petulant. What about the disciples telling him his mother and brothers had come to see him; then sanctimoniously dismissed their affections by saying that his true family did his father's will. Later in the gospel account he teaches his followers to honour their mother and father! Then there's the story of the demon called legion who told Jesus to send them into a herd of pigs; they ran off a cliff and drowned, depriving a farmer of his livelihood. If he was both fully god and fully human, I think these are some of his human characteristics
The fig tree was a symbol of Israel. The cursing of the fig tree was a warning to Jesus's fellow-Jews, that if they didn't repent disaster would come upon them.
Jesus made it clear that His message was all-important, beyond even family ties.
The demons (plural, because a legion) begged not to be sent back to Hell. So Jesus granted them a respite by sending them into the pigs.
Interesting
Yeah, those are some bad ones, too. Christianity claims to be about "family values," and yet Jesus wasn't exactly a fan of the family. I sympathize with the pigs in that story, too. What did they do to deserve having demons implanted in them and driven to suicide?
"here's another"
I see your point. I have always wondered if he had mental issues. It seems like it at times.
Dude, yes! I've always despised that one. Horrible.
Thank you Ms. Burke. Great work.
The 'turn against your family members' narrative is actually pretty relevant to me.
My mother is a Christadelphian, who believe that non-believers will never enter the afterlife (they will just kind of vanish and rot away on death). My father, who died about a year ago from motor neuron disease, was not religious. I find it really awkward that my mother is being forced to believe by her religion that she is going to experience an eternity without her very beloved husband, and heck, will have an eternity without me. That's a cruel story to tell my mother, and I actually resent her religion for telling it to her.
wrt "...I actually resent her religion for telling it to her..."
yeah, but it is SHE who embraces an ideology that as she faces her own mortality, appears to "promise" an
afterlife that is not really all that appealing.
I do find that neo-apologists ramble on about "heaven" without really seeming to know that much about what
to expect.
It seems like spending a fortune on a big vacation without reading any details about the place you are going
nor what to expect to find there.
😢
@@tracyavent-costanza346you don’t get how hard it can be to be raised in a religious and indoctrinated. People genuinely believe their religion, not choose to believe it in. Similar to how as an agnostic I don’t choose to be one I just don’t believe in anything else
@@dumbgenious1960
it's true, I was not raised in the milieu that some of the pounders were. I have no idea what that would be. My first contact with it was at age three. I knew right away that I wanted nothing to do with it.
But arguably I do anyhow since I have self-identified as UU for over half my life now. I am just not christian but I do love some of those. Just not most of them.
@@dumbgenious1960
it's amusing that apologists insist that people who say they don't believe in anything, somehow have to "believe in"
not believing.
their tendency to "project" is tweaky enough, but their tendency to use their own notions of "order" to explain how other people think and feel, just exposes their boundless egos.
Thank you for saying these things out loud. I've never allowed myself to even mentally go there, but I've often puzzled over these stories of Jesus. Your likening him to a leader really struck a chord with me.
lovin' your videos. filming outside with the nature sounds is a great touch 🥰🌳🐦⬛
I never understood that verse about dogs before. Now, I understand it well. It is very clear now. Thanks, Kristi. Great work.
“It’s just pet dogs, not wild dogs” oh wait isn’t that worse?
@@letsomethingshine No. A wild dog is a vicious, dangerous animal that mauls children and carries rabies. There are many places in the bible were the Hebrew term for a feral dog is used to refer to dangerous, criminal men -- murderers, thieves, and bandits. The term Jesus uses when talking to the Symirian woman doesn't convey any of that.
What's important to understand is that she knows she has no right to this miracle. She calls Jesus "the Son of David," which is basically her acknowledging that he's a Jew and she's not. What Jesus is saying to the woman by using this word is not that she's evil, but she's not one of God's chosen people. He's making it explicit what she has implied by calling him the Son of David, that she is coming to a Jew whose god she denies and doesn't worship and asking for that God she denies in her daily life to do her this great thing. Which is kind of audacious, so Jesus calls her out on it. And rather than get angry, she shows humility, she *accepts* that she is unworthy and that she has come like a dog begging.
Also important to this context is that Jesus's own disciples are watching this happen. They have already asked Jesus to send her away because she is not a Jew. They are being jerks, having no pity for this woman. And by calling her a dog in this neutral way, Jesus is setting her up to teach his own disciples a lesson, because when she shows humility and asks doesn't God have enough love for the dog under the table to be fed too, Jesus applauds her faith and heals her child, confirming that God has love for all, even those who have broken covenant with him, which is a rebuke to his own disciples hard-heartedness.
@@wolfofthewest8019
Any Jew would refer to someone of the Davidic dynasty as a son of David. Your interpretation is pure garbage.
It's in line with the Tanakh, all throughout the Torah and the Prophets anyone who is not of the nation of Israel, is referred to in some negative way. The Israelites are the chosen people of YHWH, he set them high above the other nations and the nations will lick the dust from Israel's feet.
Many people always want to divorce Jesus, from the prophecies and codes of the OT and that's just not possible, because Jesus speaks on behalf of YHWH.
@@thedude9941
You are wrong. The OT rarely mentions other nations in a negative light, and when it does, it's because those nations were oppressing Israelites.
These videos are really helping me thank you and you deserve way more subscribers.
Crying from your explanations and sense which your videos give!😢 Thank you for bringing it out! Thank you for all logic, and answering all my doubts❤ you're amazing!
I like your videos, very intellectual and thought provoking.
Thanks so much!
@@jezebelvibes I like your videos too. The problem with 'Christianity' is that from its inception the belief has always been in the inerrancy of the Bible. They have sold themselves to the idea that the Bible is the Word of God and that everything you read in it is God inspired, God ordained or God prescribed. When someone like yourself start to examine the bible now with a critical eye, you are disappointed and left with the belief that what you have believed all these years is false.
As I said under one of your other videos, I too have questioned the bible and do not accept a number of things written in it but one thing I KNOW is that what God has done for me, is NOT UNTRUE. I have a relationship with him that allows me to KNOW and UNDERSTAND him and this has given me an insight that a person would not have if you are just reading the bible and taking it at face value.
I pray one day that you would seek God for yourself and allow him to reveal himself in the way he is meant to be understood and this will influence you on this journey of discovery.
Looking forward to this one. Its topics like these, that put to rest all that "but its OT" and "you don't understand the context" Excited to see which 6 you have chosen!
Not even jesus is safe from my scrutiny 😆
@@jezebelvibes Also, No pressure, but I took you up on your offer and reached out a few weeks ago via email about working together.
@@jezebelvibes❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂
you and Mindshift should do a collaboration. both of you are quite articulate, witty, and yor presentation are a joy to watch
@@jezebelvibes says: *Not even Jesus is safe from my scrutiny 😆*
Christians are told to follow the apostle Paul in the bible NOT Jesus during his Earthly ministry because the teachings of the apostle Paul came from the resurrected Jesus in heaven, as Christians we are supposed to follow Jesus' heavenly ministry through the teachings of the apostle Paul.
I love your videos, thank you. I would love longer videos if you have the time. Thanks
Noted! :)
Just discovered your channel. Well done young lady!! I am subscribed and look forward to more!! ❤
Glad to have found your channel, thank you for putting yourself out there. New follow!
Another great video! Thank you.
Thanks for the perspective and thoughts you shared. I agree totally
I love your videos, keep them coming , people need to see the real truth, they need their ears and eyes open, never be afraid to ask questions on religion, faith , etc 👍🏽✔️
When Christians accuse non-believers of "cherry picking" the bad stuff, they need to realize only one thing: The good stuff has been talked about over and over again. The good stuff is all you hear about on Christian radio stations, television programs, and from the pulpit every Sunday.
Isn't about time we start hearing about the stuff you don't get in church?
thank you. They hide all this FILTH from people.
Well, I will say that the times I have tuned in to Christian radio, I have heard some bad stuff. Like the parents with a grown gay son asking a prracher if it was okay to keep in contact with him. The preacher's response? "You know he's being sinful, you have to cast him out. until he repents.." Which would be an illustration of the "leave your family behind and follow me".
YET they are COOL with THEIR CULT LEADER YWH/ Junior FILTHY UNHOLY CRIMES
Kristi has lots of insight to interpret the "good news," insight that is sadly lacking in the various sycophantic "pastors," or perhaps it's the kind of spot-on insight they too realize yet deliberately disregard and ignore.
#Jesusgang #Jesussociety
@@NSOcarth - She'd been indoctrinated into Pauline bullshit at an early age and is obviously considerate enough to warn others, and only a clueless person wouldn't understand that what she does is just as noble as feeding the hungry and WAY more worthwhile than whatever you think you're doing by trying to slight someone for not doing whatever it is that you think would be a better endeavor.
Thought you might discuss Jesus throwing the sellers from the temple which seems to be the one time he used personal violence. Guess that's a rule they really wanted to emphasis. I often hear it used to justify violence done in Jesus' name when you say "Jesus was for peace."
He saw those sellers as abusing his father's house. Would you eject trespassers from your property or would you allow them to stay regardless of what they were doing?
@@jameshogan6142 A temple is a public place, not a residence. I'm not saying Jesus was wrong, just odd he used violence in that matter and not in others, including when he was taken. But the right wing Christins use that story to say Jesus was OK with violence & then forgot "turn the other cheek" or "blessed are the peacemakers." All I hear is hate, anger and a false sense of persecution from the right wing Christians, the opposite of what Jesus was for.
He drove them out as one might do to trespassers in one's own home. These people were violating God's reconciliation between creator and creature. Unless I am mistaken didn't the prophetess Anna live in the temple serving God through prayer and penance? Didn't Jesus call it the House of God. Isn't a house a residence?
@@taker68 That wasn't violence. That was aggression. There's a difference. All Jesus did was chase the sellers and lenders out. His goal was to clean house, not cause lasting damage and harm to people. Being a pacifist doesn't mean being a pushover.
@@KingdomHeartsBrawler I agree but I've heard some use this story to say Jesus was ok with violence. I also have read some right wing Christians are finding stuff like the Sermon on the Mount too "woke." They'd prefer the Old Testament God doling out punishment than Jesus talk about love and mercy.
Brava! Always a thoughtful and balanced insight.
I am so glad I found your channel! I have the same questioning and I don´t feel so alone anymore!
I’m not Buddhist but Buddha wisdom and insight walks circles around Jesus. In Buddhist scripture not one word of violence , intolerance , hatred etc is found anywhere at all
Buddhism is a philosophy of equilibrium. Christianity teaches to deny yourself in order to receive the truth; Buddhism teaches to empty yourself because emptiness is the truth 😊
@@succulentsfun yea exactly. In Buddhism you look and find within . Be a lamp unto yourself :). With Christianity it seems you take a leap of faith (out of fear and emotional attachment )and submit to something outside. Give your lamp unto something outside you . And if not , you go to hell . Smh . Completely backwards in my view
I agree that Buddhism is good for encouraging people to think for themselves, and for nonviolence (usually). But Buddhism, similarly to the issues in this video, can also be family-hating and victim-blaming. The Buddha named his son Rahul, which means fetter (shackles/ankle chains). And if you're having troubles (poverty, illness, etc.), it's because you were immoral in a past life. I've got nothing against Buddhism, just adding some information.
@@rachelmann7488 perhaps however I disagree. I am not Buddhist . I do not believe in reincarnation either . Although it seems remotely more plausible than the idea of heaven . Nonetheless there is so much more practical and useful insight within the teachings of Buddha that can be put to use for the only life we know we have for certain . To me , Buddhist psychology is all about the mind and how it works . Excellent insight. And even if reincarnation is true , then for someone who dives whole heartedly into Buddhism can be motivated to improve in this current lifetime and overcome their “previous life’s” faults . As for Rhaul , it’s just a story /legend about being captured by material things which drives you further away from what the Buddha was trying to make understood . Every act, every word, every thought was taught to be in alignment with the ultimate goal: enlightenment, and freedom from “dukka” = suffering
@@bitofwizdomb7266 All false gods and idols are rebuked in the name of Jesus.
Colossians 3:5
5 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
Yeshua Hamashiach is the only way to Heaven. Yahweh loves us so much that he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for our sins so that if we come to repentance, we can be saved.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Colossians 1:15
Christ Is Supreme
15
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation
John 3:16
16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 10:9-10
9 If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved.
RUN AWAY FROM LUST!
Proverbs 5:1-9
1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
2 That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.
8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
If ANYTHING/ANYONE CAUSES YOU TO SIN, CUT it/them OFF!
Matthew 5:30
And if your hand-even your stronger hand-causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
Matthew 4:17
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Be filled with the Ruach Ha-Kodesh (Holy Spirit) to be able to understand these things that your own understanding cannot allow you to comprehend.
Be baptized in fire with the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Be born again to live a godly life for YHWH, the most high.
Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Put all the armor of YHWH on!
Ephesians 6:13
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
John 14:27
27 “I am leaving you with a gift-peace of mind and heart. And the peace I give is a gift the world cannot give. So don’t be troubled or afraid.
In Jesus’ Name I Pray That YHWH May Bless You Abundantly, Amen 🙏
Also thank you again for making these lovely video's. They are my favorite to watch. I had the indoctrination badly and I didn't know how bad until I watched your videos. So thank you for answering my questions and then some as well.
First I want to say that your contents is worth watching more than many larger Y-tube Channels and your presentation is easy to understand and I'm sure it helps people to comprehend even those who have a hard time comprehending usually.
I'm so glad I found your channel I hope you continue to have many more wonderful videos, again so glad I found your channel.
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The Holy Kangaroo. 🤠👍🏽🤟🏽
Yoda: "Away put your weapon, I mean you no harm"
Jesus: “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword”
Only gawd deals an absolute.
The sword was not literal . It was division so he could build a universal family
@@RocketKirchner Not relevant. Plus many followers of this theology can interpret to meet their own purposes.
Not unusual for apologists to play the "analogy" card for all evil and wicked things their god does or sanctions. It gets old. I like gods who don't need all these excuses.
@@RocketKirchner guess da flood wazn't literally??
@@RocketKirchner Sword was not literal but the talking donkey definitely WAS literal.
Fantastic speech again, it's a kind of clarifying medicine for my indoctrinated mind, even though I've never been a devoted Christian, yes I've tried, but didn't manage, then I focused on art and music, maybe that was a good choice after all, now I'm impressed by your brilliant talks and your sincerity😉😊😉🙃😉😊
Could you talk about the process of "coming out" as an agnostic to hardcore Christian family and friends? I have been deconstructing for years and haven't considered myself a Christian for a long time, but I have yet to tell anyone close to me outside of my husband (who is also on his own deconstruction journey). I'm so scared to be open about this topic since all I expect to hear is insults and arguments about why I actually left the faith, and I won't be truly heard and listened to. Do you have any advice or thoughts on this subject? Thank you so much for your content! You have been so helpful in my journey it is unreal!
jews for judaism shows all the lies in the nt. look up false apostle paul. christians can't get over the fact that jesus taught the opposite of paul and warned to not believe anyone making the claims of seeing him like paul did.
@@NSOcarth there are smart people who are brainwashed by religion. so what is your point?
@@NSOcarth brainwashing has nothing to do with intelligence
You are a very good and entertaining teacher. Thanks for uploading.😃👌👌
I recently found and very much enjoy your channel. Thank you.
I love your calm and sincere take on Christianity. I have been an agnostic atheist for 9 years now. It was my attempt to become a stronger Christian which made me realize how terrible the bible is.
Yes, this is my problem as well, they just say "read the Bible, your faith will increase!" And...no, not at all. The more I study, the more that Jesus is not the "Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so..." of the songs....
Yes, being inquisitive, intellectually honest and having the will to examine the evidence critically and find the truth where ever the evidence leads is what leads to deconversion but apologists must never say that, they have to make out you are a bad person. Reading the bible cover to cover is great for making atheists.
oh my god this was what happened for me as well. I wanted to get closer to god so I read the bible, but that only got me further away
Not surprising. Modern Christianity is for the most part based on some prosperity theology. True Christianity is something completely different. I can see why Ms. Burke turned completely against Christianity. She and many like have her never truly understood her life and existence in the context of God, Christ, and the Bible.
ex muslim boi i didn't want to laugh you make me laugh if u want the truth read the Bible first to the last read gosple torah etc if ur not dumb like her u will realize something she didn't finish the story so u finish she just tells her though and think of the verse when there is answer
It's so funny you mentioned "the red letters". That was my last stop on the train out of Christian-Town.
Great videos and I agree with you!
love hearing your thoughts 🥰
Agreed that there are worse things than cheating that could occur in marriage, unfortunately, there are religious people who don't consider modern morality like recently I was chatting with a guy who doesn't believe in divorce even when it's about a partner being abusive
Run!
@@dion5804 I blocked him
The remedy is to solve the problem rather than dissolve the marriage. Counselling, intervention, involvement of the wider family or community.
@@jameshogan6142 Not always. Very often the only solution is divorcing.
@@jameshogan6142 problem is solved by dissolving the marriage and the woman gaining a peace of mind from being away from an abusive man
counselling, intervention doesn't work on someone who don't see women as people, he'd just learn therapy lingo to be a better manipulator
Studying the Bible and how it came to be was partly responsible for my atheism.
And how do you think it came to be? Have you studied textual criticism? Are you aware of the manuscript tradition? There has never been a book like the Bible. Written by 40 authors, over 1500 years, in three languages, on three continents, yet one harmonious message.
@@noahcutshaw9856 You are under a delusion if you believe it is one harmonause message. Your cognitive disadance will not allow you to see all the contradictions. Your blind to the truth.
@@noahcutshaw9856
Bullshit!t it's one harmonious message.
With many internal contradictions and lots of barbarous nonsense.
Endorsing and condoning slavery (owning other people as property and your money, and their children too, for life). Condoning and ordering misogyny and genocide.
Do you perhaps know that the author of the gospels were not mark, Luke etc.?@@noahcutshaw9856
@@noahcutshaw9856 ?
Nope those 40 "authors" was the Christian community picked out
I would say that there are thousand more author like them that you just dont know about
It make more sense to me personally and to social/political science
The Bible was written BY MAN for MAN and you could not change that by saying that THE ALMIGHTY GOD say that it was written by his Apostles because he is ALMIGHTY he do what he want he can even pool the thought to my head right now
There maybe a Christ out there somewhere laughing and cheering me on because despite the fact that I was an Atheist I still fight for the truth and still loving and caring
You know what is definitely grounds for divorce, even moreso than cheating? Leaving your family for Jesus. That is 100% grounds for divorce.
I like your videos. Thank you very much for doing this 🎉
Here's another one along the same line as "forsake your father".
Matthew 12 starting at vs. 46:
⁴⁶While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside wanting to speak to him.
⁴⁷Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside wanting to speak to you".
⁴⁸He replied to him, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
⁴⁹Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."
First of all, to me this shows disrespect for his mother. We are told to honor our parents, yet here he is almost denying his family and saying that those who "do the will of his father" are his family. I found this passage troubling for a long time. To me it sounds like "follow me at all cost, and even at the expense of obeying the Torah".
you are doing great job, necessary job!
You are a light in the dark world of mislead people. I appreciate that! I always learn so much from you❤️ Thank you, ma'am 👍
Woe to them who substitute light for darkness and darkness for light
Hello Kristi Burke ✋ Thank you 👍😀
I'm really grateful for this video, you cut through the nonsense really well and show clearly where the context of the apocalyptic cult leader personality shines through. I do love how Jesus refuses to let people bury their dead and tells them to let the dead bury the dead, but then He makes a big show and dance of (allegedly) resurrecting Lazarus as a clear violation of His own rules about slowing down and treating the dead. Throw in with that His acceptance of slavery (which your video shone a new light on; Jesus says that Moses allowed divorce because peoples' hearts were hard, here's the new rules on divorce, but here's a parable that allows slavery to continue in Luke with no "yeah that's all over now" line?), His violence against the traders He disliked, His designation of sins that won't be forgiven, comparing washing one's hands to killing children under the law, encouraging His followers to accept abuse and to present their other cheek if one is slapped (ties in with the point about not allowing divorces for abuse reasons), making a black and white thinking of "anyone who is not with us is against us", deliberately obscuring His parables to keep outsiders in the dark, ordering His followers to cripple themselves if it meant keeping them spiritually pure, telling people not to get angry else risk Hellfire all while yelling at His disciples and making whips, promoting excommunication practices to shun people who don't agree with His message, and His curse against fig trees, and He becomes a bit of a dangerous, hypocritical weirdo!
The unmentioned horror of the statement “ the only way to heaven is by accepting Christ as your savior” that statement means billions
Of souls god created will be in pain for eternity . No chance of redemption just pain to be ventictive .. according to the rules of their book
Brilliantly done! You are on fire. Thanks so much for your take on this madness!
What’s your standard for “madness”? You? That would be called being arbitrary, or, in another word, illogical.
@@noahcutshaw9856 nah not really. Lol I was involved in this madness for over 40 years. And like you I didn’t think it was crazy at the time. But wow, step aside and do some real research and you’ll see things like you’ve never seen before.
@@OnThe-dl again, you’ve not stated an objective standard for “madness”.
@@noahcutshaw9856 have you lived my life? Nope. Funny how you think this should go. My standard is my own life and experience. I was once young and had little kids like you and your family. I understand the comfort of having a church to call home. I’m both glad and sad for my time in the faith. Maybe my life and experience isn’t the proper scientific way to put it, but that’s the standard. I hope you never have a reason to doubt. I really do.
@@OnThe-dl your subjective life experience is not a good source for objective truth.
What seemed to take you away from your faith?
Alot of good topics... I liked the stories in the bible you go over and your reasons for leaving the faith.
I would add to this list the time Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for having become lax about enforcing the law that children who disrespect their parents are to be killed. (Matthew 15:4)
Thank You!!
If you curse your parents, as in, if you call your mother a whore, then your dead meat!
Wow,that was one I'd forgotten. Charming.
There are so many people with faith, certainly more than a mustard seed, who have children die or suffer the death of young parents leaving a young family alone.
Then people say, it’s God’s will. Why?
Great job!!!!
Thanks for this. Shared.
Thanks for sharing!
I never understood the passages where Jesus says that if you do not "hate your parents or your own life" then one is "not worthy" of him. How do I read that in light of the Ten Commandments commanding people to "honor" their parents. Which one is it?
Doesn't mean literally hate them it means to not love your life desires and family over Jesus
jesus did not keep the 5th commandment and many others
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 proof
From one answer on hermeneutics stackexchange for question “Jesus' command to hate your father and mother in Luke 14:26”
“From highly contested Aramaic Primacy wing, Christopher Lancaster, in his Concise Compendium offers the following insight on page 57, under subtitle number 7 "hate" or "put aside"
The answer lies in the Aramaic word [transliterated] sone'
sone' to put aside to hate to have an aversion to
So with this in mind, the more correct translation of Luke 14:26: "If any man comes to me, and doesn't put aside his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."”
I would add to this that in Matthew this passage is written as: “He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.” Mt 10:37 so we have independent source from disciple of Jesus, that understands this passage in very similar meaning as “to put aside”
I recommend to check responses to that question (unfortunately youtube blocks comments with direct link, butwith name of question you can find it immediately).
So basically, this passage has nothing to do with command to honour your father and mother, rather that you have to put God above anything from this world.
Well a lot of early gnostic Christians thought Jesus was actually opposed to Yahweh, who was an evil pretender, and Jesus came representing the REAL God
I have to say it makes more sense than the canon
I got a bible app ad on this video. I’ve never before gotten on of these ads😂
Love the channel.
I love your videos!!
The Matthew 10 verses have always really stuck with me, because you're right - anyone rambling like that today would be dismissed as the fanatical leader of doomsday cult, and either ignored, or watched with a wary eye. It's only hinted at in that passage, but it reminds me that most of Jesus' teachings on love and forgiveness are perverse, inasmuch as he commands them. You cannot be commanded to love or forgive, these must develop organically. If you're compelled to do so, then they become worthless. This is best illustrated by the Parable of the Unmerciful Servant, prompted by Jesus saying you must forgive others '70 times 7' or else you won't be forgiven yourself. In what way would such a forgiveness then be genuine?
I also think that Jesus was several steps behind other moral teachers of the ancient world because of how he gave his teachings as unquestionable imperatives, whereas others, including Epicurus, Seneca, and even obvious products of their time like Confucius and Aristotle viewed moral character as a process you should reflect on and refine. For them it was very rarely, 'don't do X, do Y,' and they certainly wouldn't have equated feeling lust to committing adultery, as Jesus does in Matthew 5. There, he also suggests you gouge your eye out if it causes you to sin. Yes, it's hyperbole, but even taken figuratively, it's suggesting you should forcibly suppress parts of yourself that are causing certain behaviours, rather than taking the time to examine them and work out the way in which you can improve. Jesus obviously thought such a matter was very urgent, but such an assumption is no use to us.
Sorry, long comment, this got me thinking a lot!
Long comment, yes, but interesting to me.
@@GTGforever Yes, it's so absolute that rather than having David killed for adultery, as the Law commands, God killed his blameless child instead. It's so absolute that Paul had to write to the Galatians to implore them not to see the Mosaic Law as binding anymore despite Jesus' insistance on it (except when he was lenient on things like observing the Sabbath). It's so absolute that God shouldn't be put to the test, except when Gideon really wanted several signs to show God was with him in his fight against the Midianites and that was perfectly fine. It's so absolute that sacrifice was of vital importance to God for forgiveness, except when prophets such as Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Amos downplayed sacrifice in favour of justice, Ezekiel 18:21-22 explicitly saying God will forgive people who turn from their sinful ways, with no sacrifice mentioned, and Jesus was able forgive the sins of the paralysed man at Capernaum when no sacrifice was done, but then that absolute morality changed again once the biblical authors decided that forgiveness requires blood (Hebrews 9:22) because otherwise their chosen justification of Jesus' crucifixion wouldn't make sense. It's so absolute that Christians have disagreed on some of the fundamental aspects of morality and salvation since the beginning (again, see Galatians) and continue to do so today.
@GTGforeveror you can heal the eye
You’re so right! Lolz if I told my family I was leaving them and everything else to follow this guy I think is pretty great, they would flip!! But somehow thousands of years ago it was a good idea.
Nicely said as always.
Thanks for the video :)
I laughed so hard this whole video 😭😭🤣 never heard Jesus called a cult leader before😂
That is what ALL SKY FAIRES ARE.
Yours is the best response to all the misguided products this woman produces until she surrenders her understanding to God's Spirit. There's much opportunity to twist truth of scripture since it is voluminous and has a long history of twists by enemies. e.g. Jesus is just about love (but not Justice) and a man (accurate but incomplete), and His purpose is to accommodate me and my friends rather than to accomplish truth and justice as well.
You people are so DISGUSTING and such IDIOTS you don't read your own BOOK. I love how The SPAWN Junior who stated YWH LAWS are VALID,, so hey stone woman not innocent when they get married, little children who don't obey their parents. woman who get attacked and don't fight. Then YWH SLAVERY LAWS sell your daughters, or COMMANDS his THUGS to GENOCDIE CITIES and take innocent woman and child as SLAVES The SWAWN COMMANDS you to be a EUNUCH Hey go get that done. The SPAWN makes ALL FASLE PROMISES. hey ASK YWH FOR ANYTHING, Spawn is going to be in on The BIGGEST GENOCIDE, YES WHAT LOVE. Hey The SPAWN is CO BOSS in YWH CRIMINAL EMPIRE so what does that make him. Love how YWH DUPES forget old YWH, is YWH NOT THE FATHER or did I miss something, YWH IS The Most HIGH or can't you read, YWH HAS MERCY UPON WHO HE HAS MERCY. You DUPES buy into the book of UTTER TRASH, GENOCIDE, SLAVERY, Contradictions, Plagiarism, and you think it's TRUE,. Hey did you know The SPAWN Junior story is stolen yes stolen from Budda.. I can go on for weeks what UTTER TRASH this BOOK is. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Hey enjoy BOWING to YOUR SKY FAIRY 24/7 in his kingdom. WHAT a JOKE. Hey I spoke to The Flying Spaghetti Monster he told me YWH and The SPAWN are MADE UP. SO there. How SKY FAIRY DUPES are not called INSANE is BEYOND ME.
NOW don't forget to get your SNIP SNIP and Be a EUNUCH for The SPAWN Junior and YWH, LIKE Junior The SPAWN COMMANDED. Put your mooney where you MOUTH IS. ANYONE who doesn't do that isn't YWH or Junior Friend. YWH and The Spawn Junior won't be HAPPY with you. Naughty, Naughty. I take that you really FOLLOW MR Naughty one, as you don't OBEY YWH and Junior COMMANDS. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Don't forget to GIVE AWAY ALL THAT YOU OWN. That was a Junior SPAWN COMMANDS. Are you going to IGNORE THAT COMMAND
@@edwardwalsh5477keep it away from me and the government of my land.
You say that it's all about you but not about peace or truth or justice.
Monstrous noise that does great harm.
Imagine if all the penticostals in usa were to take that scripture to complete obedience" sell everything leave your family follow me ?" Haaa ..ha imagine .. the multimillionaire TV evangelists ? Oh no." i have to leave my mansion and actually help someone "....😅😅
Great you are putting your heart on the line with honesty and reason ❤️
Now imagine everyone in the world doing it, yourself included. Can you imagine everyone giving freely, showing up and pitching in whenever needed? Taking only what they need from the earth? 🤯
Good idea you just reminded me after 25 years in the church before I left how many sermons on being," stewards of the land " and respecting nature/ becoming self sufficient/ get the vege garden going /and recycling...let's see ..hmmmm
None......
@@monical2840 Yes. I know many atheists with that world view.
@@daniellamcgee4251
Do you think it is achievable? With all of the sin that exists, do you think we can really achieve this?
I know a guy. People say he can wash away the sins of the world. They say that any person who BELIEVES in this guy's ability, will be changed and will turn away from sin. But it's tricky, you see, because lots of people know this guy's name and some have even done much evil in his name and have deceived many. But thank goodness there's a book where his story is told from the beginning to the end, of which really there is no end they say. Sounds weird, I know, but my guess is that you'd have to read the whole book to understand it. Anyway, they say that this guy can only change the people one person at a time, so it's a little difficult because you know how people are. But his story has survived 2000 years so there's some hope there. ☺️
Again, God bless you. ❤️
@@vls3771 that's what The Mennonites believe. Anabaptists is the proper term.
Thank you for a clear and important discussion.
It does sound as though God is the one lying to mankind and making promises, but then saying all bets are off if I don't feel like honoring those promises.
Or if god just chooses to play with us and cause misery, as he did with Job-- so he could win a bet with Satan. Seems slightly egotistical and narcissistic to me.
Imagine Jesus saying that to the woman with a smile and a wink. He actually may have had a wry sense of humor. He knew of the caste system and didn’t like it, as evidenced by the Good Samaritan story. She may have got the humor and replied in kind.
Text doesn’t convey such things unless it’s more detailed.
“Bringing a sword” means that there will be division among families and friends as a natural result of apostasy from old religions which is what many would see allegiance to Jesus as being.
"Jesus is a Jewish apocalyptic cult leader"
And that's exactly what he was. The origin of our troubles is always the same.
any proof?
@@RM-ob5py he has no Proof, just like any atheist
Hi, I very much appreciate your point of view. I wish I could give you more than one like. I’m struggling with the thought of Christianity myself, having just left the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses, where I have been a “member” for 40 years… Most of my life. I’m trying so hard to understand the Scriptures and what I’m supposed to be doing in life but I’m mostly depressed and confused. I really appreciate your thoughts, as you bring me a bit of comfort.
Hi! I am a never-JW, but became an ex-JW ally in the last 4 years. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to do much, except say that we are around, and it might help to find a community of ex-JWs, and allys who have more of a specific understanding of what you are going through, as well as channels like these. There are great communities on TH-cam, and having a laugh diminishes the power of the 9 Wizards of Oz! (The Hee Bee G.B.s) 😅
Disclaimer: Some Ex-JWs have difficulty working all the invasive judgement out of their system! 😅
You are extraordinarily courageous! Your integrity is commendable! This is why I have enormous respect for ex-JWs.
Might I suggest that you keep exploring who you are, and what has meaning, value and joy for you. In time, you will know your own self, your own thoughts, and your own beliefs, and knowing yourself will become increasingly grounding. You will also find people who are familiar with experiencing unconditional love along the way, something new for you, who will nourish your heart, when you are ready. ❤ 😊
Kathy - don’t waste your time with either Kristi or religion . GOD LOVES YOU !
look at charles russels grave. he was a mason.