A "Few" Immortals. Wasn't sure I could save this one.
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You're like the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition sketch. "The war is the most important thing. And campuses. Campuses and the war are the most important thing. And Laurier's gold. Gold, campuses, and the war are the most important things."
Sounds like murica to me
I wasn't expecting that.
@@chuachenghong7788 Wrong, there's no oil there, it can't be good ole 'Murica
@@justsomeguy5470 no guns or freedom either definitely not the good ol' USA
Best comment ever
"Immortals. We put their name to the test."
God I love that sentence from sparta.
yeah i remember when vin diesel kicked those persian emissary and yell
THIS IS BRAZIL!
Oh man, I love Spiderman!
Potato you sound like a disappointed father who's son is failing classes xD
At this point, I got a feeling that some people will just troll you by sending a saving which they play it badly on purpose. 😂😅
If you've seen any of the "saving your disaster" videos for Total War, that's already happened with that guy. It's kind of amusing because he then 1) pointed out all the ways that it was an obvious troll, and 2) won anyway.
@@Kitchensink108 LoTW is truly a legend. The dude is insanely good at those games.
Definitely happens but this guy in specific is definitely just a bad player, dude didn't even turn yield icons on.
@Blake Morrison The same thing happened to me today lol. I was attacking a city state when out of no where Norway declared war on me. Luckily I was already producing units in my city to reinforce the ones sieging the city state so I managed to push them back all the way to their capital
Making it all the more impressive when he still turns it into a learning opportunity.
The worst thing about this game is the lack of yield icons
REE
@@PotatoMcWhiskey I never used them until you mentioned them. Now it’s so much more simple.
These "save my crappy game" videos are some of the most riveting videos on the internet. Keep this series going!
1:12:52 "this thing passing killed us here"
10 seconds later Laurier offers *salt*
I'm crying here, psychic AI in Potato's games.
The AI when a warrior is blocking the capture of the city: *Ignores the warrior and ranged attacks the already zero-HP city
The AI when it is actually in a position to take the city: "You know what? I think I wanna melee-attack the warrior."
REAL
As if game designers wanted us to win and feel good about ourselves. Hmm...
@@kir2847 No, they're just really bad at programming.
poilboiler not really - good AI for a game this complex is quite difficult and expensive, and the company chose to put most of their investment in other areas. Personally I would prefer more investment in better AI and screw the graphics and sound; but they do seem to know what most people want (or at least will pay for) and naturally they build that.
@@poilboiler lol no... u do realize ALL AI are INTENTIONALLY dumbed down with limitations..
literally.. AI is designed to be beaten by players in the easiest way possible without tryna make it obvious....
the AI in all difficulty settings is the same.. just buffs are giving to them... so they are still under the same LIMITATIONS...
example.. take away all the buffs on diety right.. infact.. give the AI debuffs so they are at a disadvantage...
BUTT remove some of the limitations of what the AI is allowed to do...
YOU WILL LOSE to weak ai units with even ur strongest units even with the buffs..
u underestimate just how supeior even basic AI is to the human brain .. remember LIMITATION are INTENTIONAL placed...
though.. people can design bad AI.. butt even bad AI is put under limitations and if lifted to some extended.. even trash AI will probably beat u 100% of the time..
watch this video "is the AI in video games to stupid?"
th-cam.com/video/ejdDjjJhiEk/w-d-xo.html
sad truth is.. u as a human are basically incapable of beating an AI .. thus games would never be beatable and no fun.. and cause we would die literally at the start of every game ever.. so they are drastically limited.. so yes.. WE CAN "FEEEEEEL" GOOD...
its like "bots" in fortnite.. pros mock and call them trash.. butt they dont realize epic games LITERALLY can remove some limitation/restrictions and pros will literally never win another fight to a bot..
tbh.. just cause i would love to see it.. think all games should have an OPEN AI type of mode.. 😂
like imagine a single account for OPEN AI or things like it.. and u end up sometimes in a lobby with it.. xD
I'm emotionally invested in this now and need a followup
Crushing the woods for a campus, then buying a builder, and then moving Magnus into the city is the most Potato thing I've ever seen.
shut up, don't tell people about my mistake oke
Also for that moment he moved established Magnus out of the city and proceeded to chop wood there one turn after that. I'm glad that i'm not the only one who could have done that :D
There were a ton of tiny things I spotted, but I also know I couldn't have saved this game, so...
Anyways, this was a very educational video.
What was the most optimum play there?
@@thomaswilkes9831 There were a handful of movements which weren't optimal, and obviously the forgetting to change civics and tech at the start.
The most glaring is probably not spending faith at the end of the golden age to get more builders.
Should have called this video "This is bad... This is really really bad"
that was intense. i really like this series it somehow makes civ seem exciting, and I think there's a lot of learning that can be done from this
You should call this series "Potato's Tots". I love these pls do more!!
PotatoMcWhiskey when he sees crossbowmen: "I fear no immortal, but that thing... It scares me."
"You settled off the fresh water; is that a thing that you do?"
I was playing an Emperor game with my brother and a bunch of AI and ended up starting a war with the Cree (I was the Dutch) that went on for dozens of turns. I tried to peace out but halfway through the Inca got called in for an emergency and their army was twice the size of mine and the Cree combined. I was really scared that I was going to get wiped out by the technologically and numerically superior coalition. Honestly I'm still not sure if this game is salvageable because we just hit the industrial era and the Inca are somewhere in the Atomic.
At least my industrial squares are amazing.
you have more of a chance then you think. The ai is really bad at effectively using their army. as you can see in the video the ai will do dumb things like shoot a city with zero health or attack units when it can capture cities.
Well there's your problem! You're using industrial squares. Squares only have 4 sides.
I always put my industrial zones on hexes, because that way I can receive adjacency bonuses from 6 sides.
never underestimate the power of human wave attacks. use that industry.
luckily units don't drain city population.....
Bro if have walls, a few encampment and field cannons, you can protect against anythimg
@@MaddyBird666 i'll make sure to apply that information to my game from last year...
Swordsman be like: "I am the shield that guards the realms of man"
Ight you have my respect General McWhiskey. That was a masterful defense
if my CO was named "McWhiskey" i wouldn't be sure whether to celebrate or book it....
That war was pretty freaking intense man, impressive how you pulled it off
edit: looks like it continues for a long time lol
we've always been at war with Persia
@@PotatoMcWhiskey Yeah I just completed watching it now, I had thought you'd have completed the war at 50:00 or something like that, but apparently you never did :D
Dude the pet when he had to just leave units around the city to block units because it’s health was too low was super cool, never would’ve thought of that strat
@@parahaxeus1267 ah yes, the stalingrad strategy.....
@@parahaxeus1267 I've actually done that in civ 5 to block an AI from capturing a neutral city without declaring war. It's pretty silly that because of game mechanics you can besiege a city (aka surround it with troops) and because you aren't at war, the attacker's armies can't fight you or march their troops through the area.
"The Thousand Nations of the Persian Empire descend upon you! Our arrows will blot out the sun!"
Potato: "You stole my next line."
Man that was absolutely amazing !!!! I don't think I could ever win that war.
I know I'm awesome
@@PotatoMcWhiskey hehe
quite literally a 300 moment, a bunch of out classed warriors holding off a superior persian army.
@@cageybee7221 again how about playing as Poland 🇵🇱 being at war with literally everyone since 3500 bc until 2000 ad with no allies constant invasion and 2 cities until you were ahead in tech and got nukes and sacrificed all but your capital for a distraction whilst you nuke all the enemies to hell and somehow win a science victory just before you lose your capital to the swedes
@@PotatoMcWhiskey Tell me, do you bleed?
One more thing you could have done is purchasing builders before hitting renaissane. This way 700 faith is basically wasted.
All in all great game salvaging skills
i think selling your iron off from the start mightve made this a bit easier. Also the AI being too stupid to focus the right things really is why i often say that even if seemingly hopeless, aslong as its warfare you can often rely on the AI being bad :P
My guess is that the initial save is from the turn that Persia took Brasilia, or maybe the turn after.
Man you can just hear Potato trying his best to not call the guy a straight up maniac with his settling and save file turn
I like the analogy of "driving a freight train"'. it's a good analogy, but also I don't think many of us are train drivers
Absolute masterclass
Loving this series. You can beat deity with your eyes closed; I feel like these vids are the only time we see you actually challenged lmao.
Situations like this game I call The Churn. You don't really get to play the game because your decisions are so restricted to churning warfare.
imagine if you were crushing brazil in a war with several of your best archers versus one of their archers, and all of a sudden they start talking extremely fast, chopping down several forests and has 10 archers now
This is like Civ 6 rehab: "every step I make nudges you back in the right direction, because you were so far behind." The 100-step PotatoMcWhiskey plan to get back on track!
1:11:26 "completely ruining MY game"
I really enjoyed this video. Seeing you genuinely use everything in your toolkit to work your way out of the hole was some riveting stuff.
"I'll go a little bit longer" he says 50 minutes before the end of the video
I absolutely LOVE the series, can't wait for the next disaster (yes I like watching people suffer).
this is a war that would make england and france blush.
Just want to say how much I love this series. It's fascinating to watch you dig people out of the swamp. I play on the switch and I don't own a computer that can run civ6. I wish I could send you some of my game files, maybe in November I can. Keep it up man!
Honestly, flashbacks to physics classes with this talk of velocity and momentum.
I’m liking this series. Keep it up! The long videos are such a treat.
I love this series and wish there were more. They're like little puzzles that you're being challenged to solve. It might be interesting going forward to have them more curated for you as a challenge.
“You have to play like your going to lose if you don’t win”
I just barely got into Civ; completely new player. I love these videos and how informative they are. I learn so much.
This video is a really cool concept. Great fun to watch and see you play.
This is such an entertaining series, please do keep it up, I'm learning alot
This is like watching someone launched outta a catapult into a lake full send 🤣
Been watching your channel past few days. You are really good at this game. I am learning stuff i have never known, and i have played since civ2 on playstation.
I'd love to see continuation of this on your save, winning this game.
Great content like always. I kinda wish you played this one completely through. Also, since I liked this video I get to ask a non sequitur, are you planning to play Pokemon Sword or Shield with your new Switch?
If I find time I will play them
I really wanted to start playing civ6 but the complexity of the game at that time looked like too much hassle to learn. After watching a couple of your vids prince difficulty is like a cakewalk to me now. Thanks, dude!
It's not really a hard game really
Yea ai is dumb
Playing germany against france in a true start location can win you any difficulty with no effort
@@DanksterPaws they just surrender when u declare war on them and u get all their city's.
Potato I love these videos. Thanks for making them
I want to see a follow up of what he did with it
40:55 ...I see what the "disappointed father" comment meant now. I feel guilty and I'm not even the one who got into this mess lmao, fantastic gameplay btw
Subscribed! Keep up the great Civ vids
1:03:21 Danger! Danger!
High boltage!
i love these, do more of them please!
"this is war time and our army is gone, its fine no problem "
so impressed... it was a desperate situation and you turned it. Awesome
Watching that first play through I kept saying, "Did you forget you could ask for peace?"
40:08 you sound genuinely pissed. ;-)
A couple of times you mentioned using a ram or siege tower with knights, I thought they patched that out.
You're right, old habits die hard.
@@PotatoMcWhiskey I got a little excited that you might've found an exploit.
They need to nerf Cavalry. A curaisser army only needs Iron and no upkeep and it can take out an infantry army that needs oil for upkeep.
@@RuiRuichi Nah, heavy cav is there to kill units. Melee is there to take out walls in the early game and like potato said, to block for other units.
@@RuiRuichi ww2 kinda proved mobility beats power, atleast atfirst.
"Sells all of his diplo favor to Wilfrid Laurier"
"Disgusted that somehow Wilfrid Laurier was able to pump so much diplo favor into the worst world congress outcome" 😂😂😂
Impressive. This is a really great tutorial for how to survive in a doomed game. I have to say not many players can pull this off, even for pros.
What’s that next to your name
"Play like you going to lose if you don't , you know, win" Yes sir :-)
Damn! Very well played.
That city getting passively converted for era score pushing it to a heroic age is kinda pog actually
Potato, the way you saved this utterly lost cause game leaves no doubt in my mind that you are a god amongst men.
He sounds like a teacher or a parent lecturing you on your organization skills and the importance of doing your homework lmao
"Play like you're going to lose, if you don't win."
Potato was genuinely frustrated in this one and it made it much more entertaining 😂 thank you to the guy who sent him this save!
Hi potato, really nice to see your video and improve my playing. Wanna ask you how to could make the yield (food, science. production, etc.) from other cultures visible?
A funny little thing, Pasargadae is, in its translated iteration, is a commonly used metaphor in Brazilian literature as a perfect, utopic place that ultimately doesn't exist, with classic poems and literature using this "perfect city" in various ways. Which is a little bit interesting to note considering how the game was going.
I love this series and I hope u can do some more :(
A small army of a million immortals.
I love you Potato
Grinding through that crazy war though 👀
One observation I've made is that you typically don't fortify your units before promoting or pillaging. I always fortify first, then promote, and it will still heal an additional 5HP above the 50% from the promotion. Plus they're fortified from incoming attacks too. The same works with pillaging. It's a must in my books. =)
You're right, I am aware of this, its just something I forget.
@@PotatoMcWhiskey You're a pro. Keep it up. Love the vids.
"we're not outta the woods yet cause.."
i was ready for you to say "cause you didnt chop it" lol but you still said "cause we are not outta the woods yet is that simple" which was just as funny lol
Potato is the friendliest TH-camr in the world till it comes to war then its "The war is everything" time.
Love these series
Leaving yourself open for early invasion is the #1 fatal flaw I had to eliminate of mine personally. I always build Scout -> Extra Military Unit first thing and any close neighbor assume war and even start it myself.
I am curious how many of these saves sent to you were genuinely unsaveable, I do love watching these so I can learn more though, please do continue this kind of stuff c:
a LOT
@@PotatoMcWhiskey oh my lol, I do commend you for at least trying, seriously I really do love these videos so please keep dong them, it's so much fun learning how to properly play
I really enjoy these it seems like you enjoy it more because you haven't been beating the ai from the start of the game
I feel like Canada ends up in every single game lmao, like they're the default neighbor civ.
I wish Potato did more of these
god this is soo fun. so many great tips
I'd like to see you streaming while you make those game savings
"Are you winning, son?"
Is there a playlist with all of those dissaster campaign I love them so much
That Gordian defence was a real, wait for it, Gordian Knot, wouldn't you say? AHHHHHHHH!
this is just a civ version of kitchen nightmares where potato is ramsay
Smartest civ player I’ve watched yet
Inertia. The word you were looking for was inertia.
I also play starcraft 2, but my first love was with playing 1602 AD and any and all tycoon type strategy games so lately civ 6 has been my go to. This game really showcases two mechanical focuses that are very popular in starcraft 2 but that I’m finding to be just as important in civ and other turn based strategy games. Usually terms that are used in rts games, they are micro and macro. Micro being what you do with each individual unit to maximize efficiency, and macro, that preemptive type of thinking like following a certain builder and making sure you’re setting yourself up for that momentum in the future. When it’s turn based, it’s not as much pressure to do it all quickly and you can really take your time to try and “micro your macro” as they say. Just like starcraft, You can have excellent unit control, but if you don’t focus on the macro behind that you could have the best unit control in the world and still lose badly. “More shit beats less shit”
At the end of the heroic era you had a bunch of faith that you could have used to buy some builders/units, but you were only in position to make that kind of optimization mistake by playing pretty damn well up to that point.
honestly these videos are a bit long for my taste, but they're like a freeway pile up - I just can't look away.
you're right. But take that as a hint that you don't need to play perfectly to win Deity every time.
@@PotatoMcWhiskey I might just need that on a t-shirt "potato hint: you don't need to play perfect to beat deity AI in civ 6"
1:32:40 You should have built it next to the capital and on the coast, so you could get a +3 harbor and the commercial hub might have been a +4 commercial hub, as commercial hubs receive a +2 adjacency from harbors.
You could get this save from turn 1 if you use the seed and configurations.
rule number one in strategy games is have a strong military. there are numerous ways to win and they are all easier to achieve if your opponents are at your mercy. It literally costs you nothing to make 5-6 units in the early game and they can make up any lost ground by pillaging campuses. I had one game where Greece existed only to make campuses for me to pillage
Bring these type of videos back please
loved the freight train analogy
I am new to civilization games i get the civ6 last week
Wich mods are you use for ui and trade?
Like this type of content a lot
i love this series