Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988) - Movie Review
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- Hellbound: Hellraiser II became the first sequel to to Clive Barker's original. Taking a much more mythic and fantastical edge on the story, does this sequel deliver a solid follow-up?
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"Things are getting weird already."
The Hellraiser series in a nutshell.
"I'm going to be doing every single film in this franchise."
Cody wept.
Man the soundtrack is legendary, Christopher Young is the sh*t!!!
It is and he is. Little underrated I think. Jennifer 8 and Urban Legend are great scores too!
"The Hellbound Heart" is an amazing piece especially, absolutely beautiful.
I actually prefer this to the original. I like the exploration of hell. So glad that Larry wasn't in hell cause that wouldn't make any sense from a writing perspective. But Awesome review Cody. And thank you again for tackling this franchise.✌
And Clive Barkers horror is very strange. And the Cenobites getting taken out was stupid, but after thinking on it, I think the fact that leviathan was attached too Chanard, made him more powerful. But still??????
Totally agree! But I even think he'll on earth was better than the first. But this one scared me the most.
@@amandaaaryn8465 Hell on Earth is the MTV Hellraiser. Not a dig, I like it as a Hellraiser fan. But from a story perspective its not good. It's just, Cenobites slashing people in a club. But I can see why people like it.
@@amandaaaryn8465 and hey let's face it. We Hellraiser fans make up 2% of the horror community. Lol. As much as I defend the first 4, I can see its a franchise for particular people and the first 4 are also flawed films.
@@jasonvoorhees310 thats true. Definitely not a perfect film but I find them entertaining enough to put on once in a blue moon
larry was actually supposed to be there and in the climax he originally saved his daughter from the evil Doctor Cenobite and in the end, his soul gets free and goes to a better place. The script was rewritten when that actor refused to return without a pay raise.
The only reason the doctor wipes the floor with the cenobites is because Leviathan directly was connected to the doctor. That being said I still hated that he wrecked Pinhead and the cenobites so easily. Great review as always.
I really wish like maybe they would have had Channard try to fight the other Cenobites and get clocked, and THEN Leviathan would have connected to him and he would have beaten them. It would have made Leviathan connecting with him feel much more impacted and give more weight TO Leviathan's power.
I remember watching this movie when I was 7 and the guy cutting himself on the mattress had me wincing. I forever thank my dad for letting me watch 80s & 90s action/horror movies as a wee lad.
O that part still makes me wince. And it's more the thought than what I'm actually seeing.
You watched this when you were 7? W.t.f!!!!!!
@@crashers17 ya at 80 no one cares at movie theater. I watched bunch of horror movies at theater when I was 6. Hell raisers 2, nightmare on elm street, Friday the 13th etc
Please don't let your young children watch this. There is plenty time to watch these as you get older.
It's my favorite hellraiser movie but not gonna lie.. I always turn away from that scene. The way the guy is screaming and cutting himself is just too much.
Another thing I hate about Dr Channard is when he becomes a Cenobite he starts making cheesy doctor puns like "The doctor is in", "I recommend amputation" and "I'm taking over this operation." He basically becomes Nightmares 4-6 Freddy Krueger. Pinhead was created to be an intelligent, cultured character similar to Hannibal Lecter instead of either a jokester like later Freddy or a silent killer like Michael or Jason. Then in the 2nd film they bring in this character who's the exact thing Pinhead was created not to be. And him looking like he has a giant dick on his head makes me not take him seriously.
Yup, I hated that too. He basically turned into Dr Giggles!
Pinhead is a fellow demon of culture
That was the best part of the movie! Pinhead had some great lines too. The doctor being some arrogant shit bag that floats around at the end of a giant cock was so great.
I know right! Hellraiser was made in a time where horror movies were starting to become more comedic, partly because of Freddy Kruger's success. Hellraiser chose to reject this and was made to be scary and threatening and not just a comedy featuring some generic masked killer. However the doctor totally rejects this idea. Don't get me wrong, I love a bit of campiness, but it just doesn't belong in a more serious franchise like Hellraiser.
Cody, you mentioned the Nightmare 3 comparisons.......not sure if you noticed in this movie that Kirsty looks and dress's a lot like Nancy from Nightmare 3...and the quiet blonde girl Tiffany looks like and dresses similar to Kristen ( Patricia Arquette) in Nightmare 3 ~
This one is my favorite in the franchise. However I get pissed everytime pinhead and the crew are dispatched effortlessly.
"Trick us again little girl. You're suffering will be legendary even in hell!!!" ~Doug Bradley *Pinhead*
According to the blu ray documentary, Originally there was going to be a bigger fight scene between the Cenobites and the Doctor. I think that would have empathised their regained humanity and would have shown that the realisation of that revelation that they were human shook them a lot more prominently. The Engineer from the first film was going to reappear too. It's my understanding they even built a few props and would have been a proper gory fight. However the studio producing this movie had the budget tightened so there wasn't enough money to make a complete fight. I hope the new Hellraisers being produced include this plot thread at some point. I don't know the specifics but it was going to be bloody. I took solace in the fact that the Doctor was attached to Hell's God Leviathan and had more ... Power over them and the advantage that they had recently discovered their Identity. But I do get that the way it was done, the Cenobites were taken out too easy.
Facts and doctors death was shitty and rushed so that plus cenobites deaths are the only negatives for me and this movie and Julia’s flesh flying off for no reason
It does look rushed but I find it pretty memorable as his head's pulled apart by the jaw. Whose to say he's dead? He could still be a half head attached to Leviathan. Looking. Another lost soul. Julia's case is true, its very random for hell to suck back Julia at that place in particular. Maybe her bargain had been fulfilled in Leviathan's eyes and was... Recalled. Although I do want a better, more explained, ending to her character as to why that happened. I did like the look of hell and you do see how the Cenobites get made. I can get past the Cenobites death. They just discovered they were once human, the revelation shook them. Interestingly this was the first movie I watched in the Hellraiser franchise. Before the first one.
I would love to see this doc but I have spent so much money on this movie already I'm not buying it again.(vhs,vod,dvd)
@@therabbitslayerr Theres a lot of bonus features on the blu ray but I'm sure it's called Leviathan: The Story of Hellbound: Hellraiser 2. You might find it on TH-cam.
I'm so glad we found you recently. You've become a fast favourite for us to watch together. Keep them coming.
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Hellbound: Hellraiser 2 is me by far the superior film between the first 2 installments. Just something about the concept of being trapped in an environment that you're never getting out of in search of other worldly pleasures is absolutely terrifying to me. That was the thing I absolutely loved about the original Hellraiser and it gets further elaborated upon in this movie. The concept of Hell basically being a personal hell for every soul within it is something that I find to be one of the most petrifying yet realistic takes on what Hell would actually be and is absolutely brilliant. Envisioning and realizing a concept like that is absolutely genius and this movie has given me a new profound respect for Clive Barker. A concept like this could actually be incorporated into other forms of media where Hell and other dimensional entities play a prominent role and would be just as effective
I agree about the doctor fucking everyone up, i havent seen it in a while but i remember the cenobites just standing there while they were getting killed and it always pissed me off
Well now that I got my wish of you reviewing the hellraiser series, we need to convince you to review the rest of my other guilty pleasure series. Puppet Master.
That is torture
I love Hellraiser 2 it's one of the best Horror sequels I've ever seen Cool background Cody
The reason Doctor wiped the floor with the cenobites is because the studio effectively ran out of money by the time they got to that scene and couldn't do the fight scene that they wanted to do. Still though would've appreciated Pinhead throw up some chains before getting whacked.
Great review Cody!! Never cared for this series past the first installment but your reviews are always top notch entertainment!!
What made the first two movies so unique was the very concept of Hell. It's not an afterlife, but a horrible physical dimension; a parallel universe totally alien to us humans. You open the box, they come to this world and take you to theirs, to give you "pain and pleasure" for all eternity. You can be moral and virtuous as much as you want, that won't save you. Their world is ruled by a giant diamond-shaped thing called Leviathan that spins in the sky and emits beams of black light. We have absolutely no idea what it is nor how long it has existed. And all of this was so brilliantly depicted by C. Young's dark and brooding score.
They completely abandoned this approach starting from part 3. It's now typical Abrahamic hell, where sinners go after death. And Pinhead is just your average slasher villain, spouting cheesy one-liners (or even worse, he appears as some sort of moral judge at the end of several movies that are Hellraiser only in title). One of the most original concepts in horror movies history ruined for no reason at all. Shame :(
I love this movie. My dad took me to see it as a kid. It was a sold out crowd, and people were scared. I always though the evil doctor was badass. I liked him as a villain.
Seeing people without any skin leaving blood everywhere they touch still makes me wince! Clive Barker’s Labyrinth. That’s how I would describe this movie. Not as good as the original, obviously but a lot of the ideas, the expanding mythology is very interesting. Hated the doctor villain, though. Still have no fucking idea what that Leviathan is lol
Hellraiser II is my favorite entry in the series.
Dr. Channard is my favorite addition. I know it can be disappointing to see him mop the flor with the cenobites. But there's a core difference between him and the others. He is a villain. They are not (Pinhead turns into one starting with III because America - as usual - didn't understand the appeal to foreign franchises.) He was a monster even as a human. Remember when he gave the inmate a knife to cut himself up? Pinhead himself sees himself as benevolent. His own flesh is cut open in several areas. His head is ... well you know. To him that's pleasure. He doesn't go around randomly killing people like the other slashers. If you summon him (and only then) he comes to share his pleasures with you. Even Frank said they blured the line between lust and agony. You also see it as he licks his lips shortly before being torn apart. Then his personal hell in this movie is women promising him pleasures but he can never touch them. So no violence, no physical harm, implying that to him pain is not hell.
What again goes back to: The cenobites don't do what they do to torture people. They do it because they themselfes experience it as extatic.
Channard is an evil bastard. And he knows he's an evil bastard and enjoys the fact. The scene were he cuts up an entire hospital room just for shits and giggles - He is fuckin evil. So it turns out in hell being pure evil is stronger.
Of course this is weird. It´s all Clive Barker. If you go see his work ...the movies based on his work that´s what it is.
I love Hellraiser for all this: the demons, the visuals...it´s all amazing.
By the way, I thought that a person that loves horror as Cody would precisely one that would love what Hellraiser/Clive Barker offers.
I'm a bit over halfway through and was paying so much attention to what you were saying I only just noticed your T-shirt! .... Warriors...*clink, clink, clink*...Come out to PLLAAAAAAYY...
Second favorite of the franchise, always watched it growing up! The mattress scene really is unforgettable.
Maybe the most watchable Hellraiser sequel
Just watched II for the first time and came here for your review. Spot on with my feeling, I was bored for a little then sucked in by the 30 min mark... and then I just kept on saying "wow, that was weird" for the next hour and 9 mins. Can't fault the imagination but goddamn it's just neverending weirdness for most of the runtime.
Can't wait for this to be the first franchise to get 4 Fuck This Movie ratings
I actually love the first couple Hellraisers. I agree with your neg especially the cenobites being taken out but I did lIke that you got to see who they were as humans. Chatterer human form was sad. I appreciate weird. I guess. My biggest issue was the hellscape. Leviathan is a giant rotating polygon???
They wanted to make it a giant tentacle monster but clive wanted it to be more abstract
The Doctor cenobite was controlled by Leviathan, that's why they lost. Leviathan took their powers when they rediscovered their humanity and it was Leviathan killing them, not the new doctor cenobite.
I fuckin’ love Hellbound!!! Dr. Channard slays.
I love the design of the Doctor Cenobite. Guy is an Uber Cenobite.
For me...best in the series. A dark Alice in Wonderland-esque nightmare that builds on the lore we got in the first one. Together with 1, 5 and probably the recent one the best of the series (although I enjoy bits & bobs here and there). And yes, it does look dated at times - but that's why I can't wait for the reboot. They literally can go in any direction, expand on the lore, make it as twisted as they can but with 2021 quality. So here's me crossing my fingers than they finally do Barkers imagination justice.
Fun fact: pin head was never ment to be the main villan. Juila was ment to be the main villan of the series...however people liked brad baileys performance abd pinheads charcter so much that the series from 3 onward made pinhead more of the main antagonist.
The first movie is better, but I like this one a lot too. It's the last true Hellraiser movie in the series, the rest just miss the mark.
In all fairness, Pinhead was never really meant to be the central villain. That just happened by accident, really.
I love your channel. I just don't usually see eye to eye with you on almost any movie. But I still dig your reviews
The second Hellraiser movie not perfect but the shock value was there
This is my favorite movie in the franchise, love it
I've only watched the original and its direct sequel in succession one time, and that was the initial watches of both. I was a preteen, and an older cousin of mine introduced me to them. I've been a hardcore fan of those installments since then. 😁
I like this movie, but one of the reasons for that is because I’ve seen movies 5-9 and was begging for this kind of quality back. I will stand by my opinion that Hellraiser: Inferno is my least favourite movie of all time
What a coincidence Cody. I'd just finished watching your review of the 1st film.
This has always been my favorite of the franchise. If only for that epic Christopher Young score! Great review!
Loving all the content right now Cody since you went full time, truly spoiling us, Wanted to hear your thoughts on these ones for a while, P.S...are you still planning to do the last few Romero Dead movies?..Been keen to hear your reviews on those. Keep up the great work.
This is the only one I’ve watched all the way through. This movie alone is the reason why I haven’t tried watching the original or the sequels after this one. It is weird, but creative.
Yeah the other sequels are just plain bad I tried watching the third movie halfway through I stopped watching it was bad
Great job,can't wait for 3,I'm a massive Paula Marshall fan
Even though this was the first Hellraiser I saw in theaters, I've since gotten the first two films muddled in my head. They now work for me best together. I may be in the minority, but I really like when Kirsty comes back in Part Six (Hellseeker) albeit in a slightly different role. But I suppose you'll cover that when you get to it! :)
Can't wait til, you get into my fav Hellraiser movie Hellraiser inferno
I’m digging this series!
This is a REALLY mixed bag for me.
I enjoy the visuals and how it builds a little on the original, but I definitely have issues with this film, namely the logic of certain scenes and the messy plot.
Of course, this is just my opinion.
To me, this film tried to do a bit too much too early.
By far the best one
Guess I'll have to rewatch. Some incredible scenes in it, but even less Pinhead than the first one and when he shows up they're all instantly killed having done nothing the whole movie!
I gotta say that I feel as though I've grown out of this franchise. I agree with all of your criticisms Cody. I feel like watching these reviews helped me really pinpoint just why I feel the way I do about this franchise. First, it's bone dry in the environment in which every film takes place in. Not one of these films really comes to life through the set, you can tell it's just a set. Second, the main demonic entities are weak, when all is said and done. Pinhead dies as many times as he kills! And finally, I feel like the filming makes this franchise feel like edgy early 90s episodes of a horror tv show. Like these movies look like they're on par with an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or Xena, or Hercules. Not that those shows are/were bad... But for these to be "classics" they're devoid of any feeling of the gravitas that separates film from tv. Thanks for the great content Cody!
hey Cody, can u do ranking of the final destination movies and I have to say I love your channel :)
My feelings on this movie are that I love the atmosphere and design of Hell, but I'm not a fan of the fact that it continues with Kirsty, as the first film set up the idea that the box would find a new group of characters to torment. Going back to Kirsty feels very forced here. And remember, this takes place like a day later so Julia's somehow gone from a weak submissive to Queen of Hell in a single day. Sure.
Those aspects could be perhaps forgivable, but then there's the shitty Cenobite doctor who lays waste to the actual interesting Cenobites within seconds. Just when Kirsty and Pinhead were in the middle of some decent character development.
So yeah, overall the direction is good, but the story itself is trash.
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Love the Warriors T-shirt. Classic movie!!
My main gripes with the sequel were this.
1.) Why was Kirsty in a Psychiatrics Ward? How did she get there? The previous film ended with her and her boyfriend out near some burning pits watching as a bone dragon demon thing flew off with the box. What? Did they go to the police and say "Yeah! I'd like to report my dad and step mom being murdered by my undead uncle who made a deal with demons!"
2.) We clearly saw her father's house burning to the ground at the end of the previous film. How is it suddenly standing with police looking around?
The blood soaked bed creeps me out
My 3 gripes are -
1. Where the f**k is the boyfriend from the first movie? He could have saved us from having flashbacks and corroborated her story to the police.
2. The doc manages to easily kill the cenobites but accidentally slowly kills himelf.
3. I despise the floating cenobite sculpture that flies out of the mattress to close the film.
I still find it rewatchable but the last 3rd let's it down.
Actually even here in the sequel Pinhead was not yet the lead which is why they get wiped out so easily. Still don’t like it. Julia was meant to be the lead villain of the franchise going forward. Part of why she came back for this movie.
Hellraiser 4 for me is my goto, it's my favorite in the franchise, I might be alone in that statement. can't wait to see what you say about it!
Mine also
I love it also
You’re NOT alone! My absolute favorite!
I love your shirt! One of my favorite movies of all time 😁
Nightmare 3 reference is spot on. Great review.
Most of this movie is great, on par with the original even. However, I absolutely HATE the climax. Dr. Chanard becoming a super Centobite and easily taking out the actually cool Centobites from the first film is terrible.
Cody: This movie is just weird.
Pinhead: HAHAHA!
This is my favorite of the franchise, but it BARELY beats the first one out. Like 100/100 and 99.99/100. What I like most about it is that we see more of Hell and more Cenobites. I agree, Channard and Pinhead should have been a bigger fight, but as someone else pointed out, it's not just Channard, he was physically attached to Leviathan. And Pinhead may have been so used to dominating that he underestimated Channard a little.
Awsome vid like always Cody. Ya tbh I haven’t watched the entire hell raiser franchise either. I watched hell raiser, hellraiser II hellbound and I think I watched hellraiser revelations or whatever the hell it’s called😂
This is my fav in the Hellraiser series🥳🥳
Agreed about the poor treatment of the Cinobites as well. Very bad decision.
What were your thoughts on Tiffany and the Gothic nightmare fairground?
My favourite of the franchise, more scope, more disturbing and more mythology, this movie to me is what dream warriors was to the original elm street... even better than a truly great original movie
I've always LOVED the themes and strange undertones to part 2. Certain parts could have been done better, the execution is not always there, but overall it is a memorable flick
Im excited for your thoughts on Hellraiser Revelations for when you get to it, easily top 3 worst horror movies of all time for me and im curious on your thoughts, and you are killing it with these reviews 👌
Calling any sequel ‘revelations’ is a recipe for disaster
@@edmonddantes563 Yes, I think any "re-" titled sequel tends to be a bad sign. Not every time, but often enough. Reborn, refueled, rebooted, remastered, resurrected...
Never seen the movies, but I wonder if this is the Halloween Resurrection of the Hellraiser Series for the Hellraiser fans. After hearing how Pinhead and the Cenobites just immediately are disposed of, I wouldn’t be surprised
I would love to see a reboot of the 2 originals with clive as director
I LOVE this movie; the Epic score, design of The Labryinth/Leviathan..
Idk i love the tone of this one...
I love how weird and dark this movie is. But I get parts are too weird for you.
My favorite is Hellraiser 3 but this one I also love. But I have to agree, now way The Dr. Should have wasted The Cenobites like that.
Stop animation is so cool. It's uncanny looking. It works in horror
As a horror movie fanatic; Hellraiser 2 has always been my favorite horror movie.
The cenobites lost their power when they turned against Leviathan and rediscovered their humanity. The doctor cenobite was a proxy for Leviathan, hence the tentacle that was attached to his head.
Anyone know the story of the image of the cenobites in surgerical garb on the DVD cover that was nowhere in the movie?
Buy the dvd and find out everything.
HELLRAISER 3 was the first horror movie I was introduced to
I was 4 or 5 and I was at this house my parents took me to
With couple older kids
I enjoyed it they thought it was cool
HELLRAISER 1-3 I enjoy the rest ehhh
Can’t wait to see your review on the third
It’s not better than the first and second
So don’t expect too much haha
Another review from the best all time youtuber it's like Christmas is already here ❤
The best sequels in the franchise probably should have stopped after 2
I love how bonkers this film is! I wish I watched it when I was a kid - it would have been my favorite.
But I agree, they did the cenobites dirty with the OP doctor. Total letdown. Fuck that guy.
I've only seen the first two so your next reviews will be for ones I haven't seen.
Ture story, as someone how has grown to love horror I tried to watch hellbound. When it got to the part with the dude with the exposed brain in the opening I turned it off. There's something about brains that creep me right the hell out.
Once I saw the doctor kill pin head man I was completely done with this franchise 👊
Kenneth Cranham is fantastic as Dr. Philip Channard/Channard Cenobite.😀👍
Hellraiser? I am into that. Take my sub!!!
I really enjoyed your videos
I would love to see a Freddy vs Pinhead movie. It would be extremely easy combining the two because it’s shown in dream warriors Kristin was able to bring people into her dreams when she wanted so I don’t see the problem with somebody bringing in the puzzle box into their dream and summoning pinhead to try and stop Freddy from killing them.
Freddy would have to win though
This is my favorite of the series, but I like weird shit so....
I love this film it's a freaking classic 💀👏🏽💯
I saw this movie when I was around 10 and it disturbed the shit out of me. Especially the Chatterbox demon. I had nightmares, lol.
2.5 for this one? I can't wait to see your score for anything past #4 😁
I love hellraiser 2 but I know it's flawed. I love fantasy horror like it and nightmare. If cody finds this one decent... it's going get ugly. Hellraiser 1 and 2, mouth of madness, thing, halloween, nightmare 1, 3 and it are always fun for me to watch.
" THE DOCTOR IS IN"
The movie would have been better had Andrew Robinson returned as Larry, Kirsty's dad. I have read that the original script had Kirsty and the deaf girl rescuing Larry from the dimension, where he was in the room being tortured by Frank. That would have been interesting.
You know it Cody...we love watching you suffer! Now time for the puzzle box...