The reason my Ferrari 308 was the cheapest in the UK
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- I bought the InfluEnzo unseen at online auction, it was a gamble that had appeared to have paid off. Was making some progress in getting my Ferrari 308 back to health when a disaster happened.
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Most worrying noises go away when you turn the radio up.
I always new i wasn't sufficiently mechanically minded, bikes ok, cars not so much....but watching this is fascinating. Kudos for sharing so much with us...good luck with everything.
Thanks buddy!!
Watching and enjoying your videos and what a great car the 308 is ! Not keen on the name you chose for it though deserves better !
I had a couple of 205 GTI 1.9s back in the day, one after the next. Bat out of hell. Followed by a 5GT Turbo, so a total late 80s/ early 90s dream fest for a young lad. Decades later I need a 911 to give me similar thrills down a bend road.
How did the 5 Turbo compare to the 205?
Missed this. The 5GT Turbo felt more planted and faster because of that puffer. The 205 GTI 1.9was light as a feather in every way, and soddin’ fast cross country. Basically, take yer pick. Happy days. Ooh, and the 1.9 was a bit over throttled, so a mere touch on the accelerator caused the Pug to storm forward like a stabbed rat.
For your whistle - Strange as it might sound... I'm going to suggest that it could be the exhaust.
I only suggest that because on one of my modern classics (not a Ferrari unfortunately) as the stainless exhaust has got old, it hasn't started rattling or getting louder, but under hard acceleration it does whistle! I haven't investigated yet, but i'm assuming it's just baffles blowing through differently (worn or clogging). Good luck tracking it down.
Thanks, that’s definitely a possibility!
Those weber sneezes can be pretty dramatic. I had a backfire that imploded my muffler a few weeks ago.
They sure can!!
Absolutely loving these videos, your face is a picture full of fun and joy, bless you, thanks for the entertainment, so engaging 👏🏁😀
Check the fins on the alternator, ive had one in the past that whistles due to a fin or 2 being slightly out of line, once you spin it to a certain speed they catch the air, other then that a bearing maybe in the water pump.
alternator.
noise changes with temp and load depending on demand and state of battery charge.
Interesting.. I will check it out
Alternator on my Porsche whistles!
@@Number27 As someone who does not work on cars but computers, I'd also say that sounds very much like electronics coil whine. Hence an alternator sounds like a plausible explanation. The electromagnetic sound induction is often amplified by resonances, so it is typical that it becomes audible only under some specific conditions.
to me it still sounds like a vacuum leak, and although you've balanced the carbs at idle. You could possibly still draw air through lower gaskets or butterfly seals bearings. Try some really soapy water on the bottom of the carbs and get a friend to look for signs of an air leak
Yes def still possible! Thanks for watching!
A guy I did some work for pulled a car in the garage popped the bonnet ( front mounted hinges) left the thing ticking over he came back he lent over the engine so could only see his legs heard this pop and whoose the car disappeared in a cloud of steam , when it cleared he was holding his arm up his skin was dripping off , good job there was a Doctors surgery around the corner .
Wow, horrible..
Liking your collection of Tamiya 80's RC cars :0)
difficult to hear but from your description, I wonder if baffles in the exhaust are broken and could be restricting flow. It could explain why the engine doesn't rev out, the hissing noise and the metallic rattle you describe. At part throttle there's not enough gas flow to cause the problem and the broken baffles would only resonate at certain frequencies/rev range and at high flow rates.
It’s possible!! Thanks for watching!
As previously mentioned by Ak47 speak with Scott aka Ratarossa he’s a fantastically knowledgable bloke,
Have done already,. He’s got no idea on that noise either. Says it could be many things!
This just gets better, good luck with the bearing issue and I can't wait to see the Peugeot 1.9 GTI.
Thanks Rhett!!
I'd call the Peugot Higgins
Sometimes, when torque is applied, some gearboxes will 'whine' a little. The fact you didn't hear it before was maybe due to the fact that the engine wasn't running all that healthy. (Making less torque.) By the way, your engine sounds fantastic.
Thanks!!
The later 1.9GTI had Cats that meant the 1.9 had the power of the older 1.6, 115hp instead of 130hp, but I think those were J-K reg cars, and I do believe there was a few L reg GTIs. You should be fine with your H plate...but just check it didn't get catalytic converters that dropped the power.
Yes this one is a non cat car..
King lion or Leo could be an interesting name.
Enjoying your content mate.
Thank you fella 🙏
Was the temp high? It is common for the springs to get weak in the radiator cap and for that to happen when you shut it off. Just change the radiator cap.
Thanks for the tip!!
Luck, PJs, and a Ferrari - not working at present.
I have to repeat GLA45 is the modern rocket box incarnate. See you said “interesting” just as I typed this. Nooooooooo, interesting is a euphemism for expensive.
Once again I can wish you good luck!
Thank you Phil!
Butterfly springs on the carbs.
Could be an inlet air leak (manifold gasket), I had that on an old MG metro,sounded like a turbo..lol or possibly just the sound of the air rushing through the carbs wide open
Thanks buddy! Will look into it!
Is the noise audible through the exhaust (possible internal issue) or only audible from the engine it self (possible external)? Do you have A/C, is the a/c belt whining?
Took ac belt off today.. still doing it!
Engine boils over: I'm going to do what's known as a pro-gamer move.
Best car advert ever! No way would that be made today....
Very true!!
Water pump bearings ? Alternator bearings, squeal from alternator belt slipping ?
Good suggestions!
I have to say that, if I were ever to be able to buy a Ferrari, it would be a 456GT - beautiful GT car.
Love them too!!
whatever happened to the key that broke?
There are loads of exhausts on e- bay but one that stood out. It’s a high performance for a Ferrari 308 GT £1,230 plus £30 postage.... you could always try an offer !
I used to have a sports exhaust on my 355 and have a sports exhaust on my 996 turbo and it makes all the difference
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183074898986 Also I just changed the coolant in the 996 and instead of using conventional coolant that is mixed with 50% water I used Evans waterless powercool 180 for my car. Water can corrode the engine and cooling system, water has a lower boiling point before boiling than the powercool 180 so is less effective in cooling the engine and as a result there is less pressure in the cooling system resulting in less strain on the rads and pipes.
Thanks for the advice and for watching!
Sounds like a metal on metal, specially in the last part it sounded like it
That’s what I think too..
I have an exhaust, it's from a mondial 3.2 is it same engine?
No.. similar but this is an earlier 3.0
I’ll bet if you drive with pj pants on the whistling noise will go away
I bet you’re right!!
I think your whistling noise could be the carb venturies when they are fully open
"It tried to burn my face off." Just your average day of classic Ferarri ownership then.
Pretty much!
308 side view is stunning
Yes. The classic going fast standing still look. 😍
That's what I thought too. It looks fantastic!
I was at a car show last summer with all sorts of Aventador's and 488's and all the owners were gathered round a 308. They are still stunning. Slow now of course but absolutely stunning.
purists look away... the looks are indeed sublime, as was 246..I would love an affordable, easy build GRP replica / conversion of a crossover between 308 GTS and 228 GTO - a more subtle and smaller 288 with everyday worry free mechanicals and c 300bhp/ton --or simply a 308GTS replica (with wider footwell!) - needs to be in expensive / accessible :) - I was lucky enough to see a stunning one off replica at Stoneleigh a few yrs back with RV8 ..absolutely amazing..unfortunately the driving position remained compromised - using wheel arch extensions as in 288 would help with avoiding footwell wheelwell ingress
An affordable 308GTS clone with a TVR engine for hassle free motoring....mmm
It waited till you switched off then static boiled.... clinging on whilst the water circulates, but can’t contain the pressure once it stops 🥵
He’s exactly that!
Watch Harrys Garage with this Ferrari. The same sound from intake colector. I think its ok ;)
Have seen it before! Did not remember hearing that noise though...?
I had mine for three years and it made the same noise.
I had no issues relating to the noise.
I’ve heard that same sound on other 308s. I even asked about it at the time and never got a satisfactory answer. I just thought it was something unique to carbed 308s.
Mmmmm, as someone who has been playing with cars all his life - including professionally for a number of years - I have a suggestion: relax. When the car boils over or a coolant hose pops or the alternator bearing seizes and the car throws a belt, don't flip out. If you don't learn to take things in stride, you're going to have to become an adrenaline junkie to enjoy the 308 (alternatively you could just become a regular junkie and hook yourself on valium...) :-p
Remain calm. At least until you hear a loud bang at 6000rpm followed by clanging and large volumes of gray smoke and bits of piston and rod billowing behind the car. Then flip. That would be justified.
BTW, the Influenzo was not trying to burn your face-off. It was a joke. It wanted to see you bang your head on the underside of the bonnet. It boiled over because the horns aren't in the engine compartment on the 308, so it likely would have not scared you if it had only beeped the horn.
Thanks for the advice.. I am a worrier by nature though!!
The Flugeot
Run it without the alternator belt - could be the alternator bearing.
Good call
No, doubt it, alternator bearings don't sound like that, and it still wouldn't make much sense why it's only at full throttle. You can usually hear it at very low RPMs if it's going out.
That whistle is well known to classic car owners - it's called paranoia. :)
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Yes, along with knocks, dings, rattles and whooshes and bangs, well said, we know the score! : /
I love these videos. "Ooooops, I'll have to fix that." This is exactly my DIY car repair experience.
I remember the first time I removed a rear shock and ran in the house to show the wife. I was jubilant in my victory but she was like, "get that dirty thing out of my house!".
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sounds like a vacuum leak to me, that would only happen under load not on gradual acceleration, or perhaps a vacuum regulator after distributor makes maximum advance so that too much vacuum doesn't damage the diaphragm
Agreed. Sounds exactly like when the vacuum advance diaphragm on my distributor got a leak. That would also explain while it's only on full throttle
p_r_i_m_e does the 308 have a full throttle position sensor and system? Then I’d trouble shoot that. Vac advance would be possible as stated...etc... my suggestion always is you have to get the car in spec and all maintenance caught up to really sort out a car. I.e. of it needs a top end refresh..you’d probably fix most issues when you change out hoses, vac lines, clean or replace fuel lines, adjust timing, etc...otherwise you’re chasing your tail. Coolant flush via overheating is one way of doing regular maintenance...;)
Not to sure about your thoughts on air leak on full chat. You’ll get lower manifold pressure on closed throttle high rpm over run conditions.
Best bet is to get it to your nearest rolling road once lock down is lifted.
But great content. And an interesting noise. Cover the basics first. Think simple.
My first thought was air leak, although always hard to diagnose over video!
Agreed also - the noise only seems to be under load, so I don't think it's just related to engine speed like an alternator bearing would be. Also, those pipes perish, and the car is from 1981 by the reg. plate
You’re doing this on purpose right? I mean, the more it brakes down, the higher your viewing rates 😜🤣
I wish I was!! The boiling over does provide some entertained force you grits at least!
@@Number27 next time just put a pot with boiling pasta below the engine to make up the smoke ;)
Its hard to tell on the video but to me it really sounds like air pressure of some sort... Possibly a vacuum or maybe even a slight exhaust manifold blow....
My advice, which stems from many years of experience with temperamental souls, is as follows....
As she will never behave if you continue to call her that name that I shall not mention. She deserves a name more fitting. After all none of this is her fault. You are her caretaker and technician, not her protagonist. Oh and this time round, be sure to christen her with a females name. Once you have that sorted, don't forget to greet her with politely hello ___ and goodbye _____.
I am in love with your 205 already
Name suggestion? I might call it Murray in your honour!
@@Number27 The blue pill? That would make the 308 the red pill... and you can chose every day which one you take ;)
I think its hilarious you are still in your Jim jams lol
FixDriveRideFly hahah yeah. And we saw some flesh at the end of the video 😂😂😂
Style! ..... is not my strong point!
Well, he is now Magnum PJ! :)
7:30
"It has been a successful morning in the Influenzo.
It hasn't blown up!"
Golden :D
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Calm face? You looked as though you were in shock - understandably so.
🤣🤣🤣 I really was. I could not believe it!!
How about Benson ? That was the official name of the Peugeot tiger. Great content thanks.
Interesting! Never knew that. It’s a lion, by the way
Thanks David!!!
Same whistle sound on my 308 that I kept for 3 years without problems. Mine was also a single exhaust. Leave it like this mate. It's pre-bling Ferrari. For me, the best part of this engine was to open the right window and hear the carbs sucking air through the right fender intake ! A very special sound that I loved and only on that model.
Thanks buddy and good to hear you had the same noise!!
Tyrrell's Classic Workshop maybe (has a YT channel also)
Any Ferrari issues reach out to ratarossa
He knows, they are already hooked up.
I was thinking about that bearing the Ratarosa changed on his 308
I reach out to Rata quite a lot with very limited replies.. #js
Name for the lovely GTI. “Pug Mug”
Beautiful in blue. Will be brilliant to drive 👍
Not bad, but I'd go with Lester Peugeot or Sacré Bleu. Great little cars.
I had a similar squeak in my Porsche 993 in similar conditions to yours which puzzled me and quite a few professionals. It went away after I removed and reseated the intake manifold, so believe it was a loose hose clamp at the intake side. Worth re-seating everything on the intake side before replacing anymore parts. All the best with it.
Thanks and good advice. Will do when I rebuild the carbs this a winter!
I was thinking bearings as well maybe a tensioner or alternator?
Hi, I have a 1976 308 GTB and have had a similar noises at certain revs. Drove me mad but on mine it was a hairline crack in the exhaust heat shield on the rear bank of cylinders. Then I got another crack in the heat shield under the boot floor (deeper noise) and finally a high pitched tingling/whistling noise (like yours) that was the front heat shield protecting the alternator. Spent ages sorting crack/splits etc in heat shields and finally they've given up and gone away. We isolated each one by taking each heatshield off and seeing if it stopped the noise. Reving it in a workshop just didn't replicate it. Stick with it as 308s are the most underated Ferraris and when you've got it sorted you'll love it. I've had mine for 21 years now and have experienced just about everything that a car can throw at its owner. They are very fickle but very, very strong.
Aachoo-geot 205 GTI
I had a 205 GTi 1.9. It always started 1st time. About 20% of the time.
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Dirty contact on starter, common issue. The most unreliable part on the 205gti is the German part. Bosch fuel injection system, air flow meter. Many of us owners gave binned that and gone for wasted spark set up.
If your having cold start issues, it will be the SAD on the back of the distributor SAD = supplementry air device, usually the rubber tube perishes and fucks it up, I used to set the throttle up by hand after working on them for years as a kid. 650rpm with air screw closed then open up to get 950rpm. It will run like a dream and no stalling out.
Hello sir. Love your videos. My father has a 1980 308 GTSi. It's common with the factory exhaust to whistle at higher RPM's or at wide open throttle. Keep up the good work.
Thank you buddy, have a great weekend!!
@@Number27 Thank you do the same.
*10:45* *Turbo Whistle*
Nice one getting the Enzo going chief 👍
Thanks chap!
Sounds like it is either exhaust or manifold. Hope you find out. Keep wearing the jimjams! 😁👍
205 should be Pepe le Pew, call it Pepe on good days, and Pew on the others.
@Wake Forest Awards Pepe le Pew did not survive the Me Too movement. He bunks with Cosby now.
Bummer about poor Pepe.
High velocity air going thru the carb venturies
Sorry
M135i boring?????
I drive a Lotus Elise, owned a Exige, Evora and a Ferrari F430 Cab, our M140i is the most complete all round car we’ve ever owned.
It is a complete all round car.. but I don’t get excited about driving it!!
alternator bearings.....
Personally I'd take the rad to a specialist to get tested and the starter and alty to a specialist to get checked over and then if all the pipes are good I'd be happy
It’s nothing enjoy your beautiful 308👍🏻
Could it be water pump bearings as you’ve just noticed it after it boiled over?
Fantastic progress on the 308, well done Jack. Running issues that £££ with 'specialists' hadn't resolved for years, you've got to the bottom off in weeks :-) Getting going, its a great journey
Thanks Sean! Enjoy your weekend!
That noise is coming from the optional factory turbo hidden in the glovebox.
Does sound a lot like a turbo!!
In Australia when Peugeot's were big in rallying they were called Pugs, so as you are in the mother country how about "Pugsley".
The “please go” should be a good name for your new car 😉
cheftush errrr 🧐
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Thanks for the update, thats some project you have there ! Only happens at higher revs...could well be the alternator on its way out ?
New car...what about PUGWASH ? 😂
Thanks Robert! Enjoy the weekend!!
"Pugani 205" for the 205?
Good one!
why didnt you explain what you were doin when "balancing" the carbs...afterall aint that the point of this channel?
its simple he was making sure that they all weigh the same !!
There’s a fine line between exposing and boring.. not sure everyone would be interested..
Peugeot..... my first brand new car was a 1.9 gti in 1988..... your blue pug? Of course its “Sacre Bleu”
Bleed the radiator!
yea my mate had a gti 1.9 top car and yea all the 300 and 500 bhp cars are boring on the road only seem to get the thrills an the best out of them on a track i just bought a mr2 roadster so much fun on normal roads doing normal speeds !!
I've had a MK3 MR2 for 3 years, they are incredible fun. The only people who slate them have never driven them.
Some eye protection next time nearby possibly.
The PJ explanation disappointing, I thought you were a golfing fan as well as a car enthusiast, well done, take her easy, she will get there, she is on the way, we just love the anxiety we share with you!
I've driven a 308 and owned a 328 and they both did that whistling sound which according to my mechanic (a Ferrari specialist) is actually normal.
Feature, not fault 😂
The name for the 205 has to be Pugsy. And the whistle may be coming from a resonance in your (fully open) throttle bodies. Happens with my BMW X5 3.0i and it drove me mad until I understood the reason. But I may be wrong and there is an issue with a vacuum line or rubber boot on the intake body? Don’t really know the car tho. Good luck, you will get to the bottom of it.
The despair you feel is when your wallet goes in to panic mode.
As for the noise, I don't think it's a bearing, because it's pretty unlikely for a bearing noise to be load-dependant. It almost certainly has to be induction-related. Have you tried taking various hoses and bellows off one by one, and then trying it (I'm guessing not, as we're not allowed out! But when we are, that's what I'd be doing).
Thanks for the advice mate!
Brilliant video and one lucky escape. The joys of motoring ‘as my father use to tell me’. The sound could be belts to tight, the alternator can also make a whistling noise, both when new and when there getting tired. It could also be a vacuum hose leak, maybe a split hose, for the most part that wouldn’t make a noticeable difference to performance. Good luck and look forward to the next video
Thank you Ross! Enjoy the weekend buddy!
No probs, I too have classic cars and motorcycles, my daily is a 1978 Mk1 Cavalier that was a bad model L, but now has the Carlton GSI 3.0 24v straight 6, Manta 400 getrag gearbox and back axle. Using a classic every day is far far better than a modern car and the smiles per miles......you can’t put a price on that
Way better than anything Hoovies and more twists and turns than a South American Soap Opera. Look forward to more episodes!
Glad it's running well....I had a similar noise on my 1981 Trans Am with a Chevy 350 many years ago. I think it was something to do with a vacuum line on it that wasn't blocked off properly. Used to only do it in the same fashion yours does.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll check it out!
That noise, could that be some sort of additional fuel jet opening, spraying more fuel into the carbs? Just a wild guess. I'm no expert.
Or some vacuum leak?
Vacuum leak a definite possibility..
Its probably not a vacuum leak. Vacuum is higher at lower revs
05:43, but there was no mention of where that steam came from. Was it a poorly secured or cracked hose? What was it?
Would have been the cap releasing.
I believe the idle jets are until 4k rpm then the main jets kick in.
Umm.. I think the Main next kick in lower in rev range than that..
If you flip the rear badge on the GTi it will be an easy mod to a 6.1 litre engine! If you had purchased a 1.6 GTi it would have been a really easy upgrade path to a 9.1 litre engine! Keep up the good work!
alternator or vacum leak, thats my guess
Could be as simple as a loose/stretched drive belt or worn bearing in either idler pulley/alternator/water pump...along those lines
How about calling it “Pugsley”....??
Could be vacuum leak. But since it's on full throttle... It would be vacuum created by ported vacuum. So if the car has ported vacuum. Check any thing on the car connected by ported vacuum. Not manifold vacuum.
Could be a very slight exhaust leak from a leaking exhaust manifold gasket, exhaust manifold or a small hole in the muffler or welds.
intake whistle as others have said i had it on several of race cars many years ago could never cure it but did no damage
it's the CARBS doing the whistling noise.... nothing to worry about! When you floor it the flaps open and they suck in more air...... single exhaust ??? remove that!.... as for the boiling water bit....Did you pull out the thermostat and rad fan switch when flushing the whole thing?