The three reasons this electric Ferrari 308 is better than the original
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- I never thought i'd see the day that a classic Ferrari was converted to electric power. And even less did I think I would like it. This Ferrari 308 (featured in vintage voltage) is powered by a Tesla motor and batteries and has the equivalent of 500hp. Enzo will be turning in his grave.
I think the lines of the 308 perfectly fit the futuristic idea of electric vehicles.
Great subject and well done!
me too
LOVED the Knight Rider intro .. that was soo perfect and awsome.. what childhood memories it brings back to Kitt😃👍
Those Tesla motors are awesome. It's really hard to criticize a mod if it has made the car much much quicker, lowered the running costs substantially and made it more reliable.
@thomas Schumacher that's why you only do it on a car too far gone.
@@livingroomguitarist7No Ferrari will ever be that far gone to justify this castration.
They do a after market kit for this conversion that transforms the sound of the car, it is not cheap however. I may be a little scant with a detailed description but it basically consists of two large bamboo lolypop sticks which are affixed to the rear driven wheels aka like we did with our bikes as kids . The effect is quite exhilarating giving it a wonderful bark .
surely electric conversion very much depends on the state of the car / engine. Like you said if you're looking at an engine rebuild for £20K then electric conversion, assuming you have a car with good body/ chassis, makes a lot more sense, personally I'd rather see a classic car saved through having undergone an electric conversion than lose that old classic car
Mal Function Nah mate, I think he is right. Nothing half arsed.
@Mal Function don't think there's anything half arsed about the conversion in the film, it looks extremely professional and if it means it keeps the 308 0n the road then it's good thing surely
i would keep that lovely 308 on the road even if i have to pedal to make it move. Electric conversions will save lots of marvelous cars, just need cheaper and better batteries to start a new industrie around electric swaps, drivetrains, axls, controllers....
@@thejupiter2 . As more and more cities bring in legislation to ban petrol and diesel cars from city centres, these exotics will become expensive paperweights. Their wealthy owners will trailer them to Goodwood, etc, and thrash them around the track, then trailer them home, and put them in the garage till the next time...or, more companies will develop plug and play EV conversion kits. The drive train can be removed and kept on the shelf, the EV drive train can be installed, and the car can continue to be used and enjoyed. Without the fear of a flatbed journey home, and a large repair bill. Owning an old classic is often an expensive experience.
It will be like horses. You can ride your horse, but not through the centre of London. It's also an expensive hobby.
I like cars. I love to hear a classic Bugatti doing the Goodwood hillclimb, but it's not sustainable or practical for most people. Remember, most car journeys are the boring, mundane, banal daily driving we all do, stuck in traffic and commuting to and from work. Also 90% of the time cars are parked, probably more for exotic classics that only get driven on fine, sunny days.
Even if electric cars turn out to be not the final answer for personal transport, ICE cars will disappear, and sooner than you think. Just because you don't want it to happen, doesn't mean it won't
I think it depends - there are some classic cars where the engine is not the centrepiece; Citroen DS springs to mind, or pretty much any Rolls, and yeah I think they may lend themselves to electric conversion.
In other cases, the engine is the defining thing about the car - to lose it is to lose the essence of what the car was, and what you're left with is a full-scale model.
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else what's the right or wrong thing to do with their own car - as long as the owner enjoys what they've got then thats the main thing, but had it been my money, that Ferrari would still have it's beating heart.
Was this car converted by the Moggy and the guys on the Vintage Voltage tv programme? I noticed they had a red 308 in the background in their garage when they were working on the other cars featured. It looks like one of their very professional conversions
I've got a 31 year old Esprit and will never sell it. In the future if it has a major engine failure I would be very tempted.
That would ruin its character completely. Just swap a honda s2000 engine instead
@@04dram04 I disagree on this. I own a 1980 lotus esprit S2.2. The character of a lotus esprit is defined by its driving characteristics, the way it handles and steers and not so much by its engine. In a conversion I would be worried about the gain of weight tho. Mine is just above 1000kg, Paul Kane's will be heavier but with a turbo also more powerfull.
If that conversion keeps the weight distribution between front and rear as perfect and the centrepoint of gravity as low, an electrified esprit would be fun to drive. One note. The esprits gearboxes (although only reverse and 1st gear would be used) do not stand a lot of torque, so I don't know it would cope with the massive torque of a tesla motor? And to finish. I know that as an easter egg , Tesla has incorporated the view of the james bond submarine esprit on the screen of model S and model X that have the air suspension package. SO it would be cool to drive an early esprit with a Tesla motor.
BTW, I love that ferrari 308. Georgious original looks and future proof
@@gvybin whitout the engine it is not a sport car anymore, maybe a performance car but not a sport car, it is like converting a horse to magnetic floater,. It may be better on paper but it is not a proper horse anymore, for the price of a ferrari i can buy a basic plane 2 time fasted than it so yea, no engine no Ferrari.
What a fantastic idea. Something that puts me off old cars is those unknowns of engine and mechanical reliability. Having conversions like this be more accessible and commonly available could breathe such a wonderful new lease of life into cars that just sit, unloved and ignored in dusty garages or covered by a tarp for years at a time.
Lovely idea. Kudos to Pete for having the balls to do that to a Ferrari!
Don’t buy an classic car then .. problem solved but a tesla instead
Impressive conversion and the best looking EV along with the E Type on the planet. Not for me though. Would be like putting a casio quartz movement in a Rolex. The engines in my F355 and E Type make the cars for me.
It’s a “prancing toaster”.
Yeah, because it'll toast anything Ferrari makes with an ICE.
@@paddy19656 love it :-)
Can't dig it, with Ferrari it's 90% about the engine and the sound.
With Ferrari, you say......OK, but this is a 308. I love them, but connoisseurs will say it's not a true Ferrari. And the 308 never had much engine, nor sound, to start out with.
@@thefreedomguyuk What "connoisseurs"?
Way back when CAR Magazine was CAR Magazine (the Bishops, the great LJKS, etc), Fioravanti's 308 came on top: "For: Great looks, sweet engine, that chassis. Against: You tell us. Sum Up: Poetry in motion".
This Ferrari will never have “ the engine” soooo...😀
@@chrisvig123 Not really aware of Ferrari history are you? The Dino derived block, a true flat plane V8, was used in the 288GTO, F40, and all the way up to the 355 and 360. Not sure where people get this "308 engine sucks" thing, it was the same block and was very capable, obviously. 355 engine in particular seems to be the big favorite for sound and rev limit, so was that also a Ferrari that will "never have the engine". Lol
@@thefreedomguyuk If by "connoisseurs " you mean people who don't know anything about cars or engines or Ferrari, then yes, you are correct. It's the same engine Ferrari used for 40 years bro, including on some of those same "connoisseurs " that will tell you the 288 GTO, F40, and 355/360 had some of the greatest engines Ferrari ever made. Most of what people who claim to "know" is usually nonsense.
I think your 308 experience and enthusiasm qualifies your opinion to be extremely valid and relevant. I love to hear an old Ferrari V8 but this conversion is spectacular!
In the video, the combination of motor whine and tire noise make this thing sound like a jet-powered car. I don't obviously know if that's the case in person, but it was surprisingly cool.
The change to 50/50 weight distribution means that, in effect, this is no longer a mid-engine car. It's now much more like a Corvette or BMW, or any other 50/50 car, with the balanced and benign handling associated with that design. So it loses its mid-engine handling characteristics, one of which is putting the power down better on acceleration, and one of which is off-throttle oversteer. Not a bad exchange for normal driving, actually. But on-the-limit, it will be a very different car.
This really is a complete transformation into something different that looks like a Ferrari.
It just doesn’t seem fun without shifting and working the clutch. That’s why I’m not excited about newer cars.
Oh it’s fun when it’s got triple the power 😀
In my experience electric cars are objectively superior and functionally near perfect but not very involving, and once the novelty of the new driving experience wears off they rapidly lose their appeal.
It is a different kind of fun. Much more subtile.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Do you mean subtle or is this a new word?
@@paddy19656 No sorry English is not my first language. In Dutch it is "subtiel" so yeah, I did my best and I was close!
Since 1976 (when I was 6), I've loved Ferrari and the 308. I followed Ferrari in all respects since then, but I began to slip away when Pininfarina was no longer the primary design source. I'm not saying Ferrari design has slipped or that they are any less amazing, but they aren't the same. To see the first Ferrari I ever loved converted to the spirit of my other favorite marque, Tesla, is a dream come true. It's a dream I wasn't even having. I'm astounded by this conversion and will definitely consider electrifying in the future.
I agree. Ferrari's were the most beautiful cars around. Now, they're cool & aggressive but are rarely beautiful.
Ok I am triggered, a red 308, the music of ''KITT'', I even had the 'red strobe' light attached to the front of my first car, I used to run home afterschool to watch the KITT on tv when they were aired some decades ago. Ok I AM TRIGGERED.
But, I don't know about the E-motor thingy, I like the rattle and roll of an ice, the induction noise of a well tuned carb, the whine of a supercharger and the burping of the exhaust.
Electric cars are like an automatic washing machine for me, but this 308 is playing with my mind! lol
Hmm...the original 308 engine only put out 180 kw? Why not I say apart from the noise experience!
Once the novelty of the shove in the back wore off, I’d be pretty bored tbh. Much like big power turbo cars.
Give me a screaming N/A any day.
One does never tire of the torque in an electric !!
Turbos lag too much 😯
I've been driving my Tesla model S P85+ for the last 7 years, and the longer I drive it, the more I'm happy there is no engine noise/vibraion/heat/waste/pollution. I also used to ride a Suzuki GSXR-750R, but honestly, I never rode it again once I got my Tesla. Electric is just superior in every possible way. Unless, of course, you're still mentally a child and need a loud engine to scream "look at me!" to everyone - were you not given enough attention as a child that you need to be obnoxiously loud now?
Strange response. Great childhood here thanks. 👍🏻 I won’t bother with the rest. I’m glad you’re pleased with your choice. Enjoy.
@@ColinFox would you say we shouldn't listen to music as well because sound isn't important?
Forget the electric conversion, you need to get those wheels on the influenzo!
I think they look a bit cheap looking personally.
This.
My only gripe is there is no manual transmission anymore. It's one of my favorite parts of my 964. Is there any electrics sports cars that have manuals?
Sounds like "Thunderbirds are go"
OK, how far between recharge? How much to replace batteries? How long to recharge? Any worry about catching on fire? No luggage space and no air conditioner?
that car is amazing, i love it. It takes a pioneer to start change. well done Peter!
It with mixed feeling I see this. I have my 73 Porsche and would never convert it. I drive it to have the analogue feeling - sound, acceleration and gear shifting. If I want to drive a fast, quiet and easy driven car I just drive my daily driver Mercedes. The only reason for this conversion is accepted is f the original engine was blown and not feasible to repair. You simply do not drive classic cars for the power, but for the feeling. You si mply just made a review of a Tesla.
Exactly. If you think faster is better, you don't drive a classic car.
@@SpencerF6 Wrong. A faster classic car is better than a slower classic car.
The climate crisis is real. Even if it wasn't real, the realities of pollution and oil/war/geopolitics make petroleum based power systems an incredibly stupid idea. Countries are already talking about outlawing the sale of ICE vehicles. I would rather see old classics like this get a new life as an EV conversion than go to the junkpile.
Colin Fox sales are only regarding new cars. Besides it is not the old classic cars that really contribute significantly to the overall CO contribution. None of those with classic cars use them as daily drivers. I might drive 3000km in mine each year while doing 35000km in my daily (which by the way going to be replaced by an electric one).
Firstly, I love the influenzo videos, secondly, this video really helped with a problem I have. Having lost the use of my right arm in a traffic accident on another Italian icon, a Ducati motorcycle, I have had to limit myself to automatic cars. Some cars are only available in manual such as the Z3 M Coupe (3.2L) so I had to make do with the Z3 Coupe 3.0L automatic to sate my urge to own and drive one. The Ferrari 308 / 328 is another car I would love to own and drive but cannot as they are manual boxes. I have thought of maybe having an automatic gearbox fitted somehow, but this option to convert to electric provides two solutions. One, my need for an automatic is solved and two, the car is future-proofed from the coming legislation and cost to fuel gasoline engines in the future. Thanks again for this video and thinking outside of the box.
Fantastic car, I love the work that Moggy does with such vehicles. He's a smart guy as this is THE future.
I have an Alfa Duetto as well as a Model 3 Performance. I drive my Alfa on weekends to enjoy a relaxed classic car sensation, while my Tesla is a daily driver with passenger/luggage space and sports car levels of efficient performance (I also have a low-mileage S2000 for the occasional canyon carving). When I first bought the Tesla, I did some joy rides, but the novelty of 3.2 second 0-60 times wear off after a while. I don’t think I’m unusual in wanting to keep these sensations separate. As they say, “horses for courses”.
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Needs an aftermarket exhaust.
Ha!! 🤣🤣🤣
You can get a speaker that will give you any exhaust note you like....
@@justblairthompson No, you can get a speaker that will play a flat imitation of a rich, three-dimensional exhaust note.
So cool that the side air intakes are functional for the EV. So it weighs the same- amazing- and the center of gravity has been moved down and forward.
It must have a range of like 50 miles if it "Weighs the same"
@@zacht9447 He said about 180, compared with about 200 for his ICE 308. In my mind I'd want more from a GT, but be mostly happy with this from a sports car. A day trip to somewhere 200 miles away might be inconvenient with this, compared with fueling a GT just once or an ICE 308 twice, that's for me the only negative. As long as the conversion has the technical performance, and this clearly does, I think the rest is purely personal taste as these are pleasure cars.
When I first saw the title I thought it was a terrible idea but after watching the review it actually seems like a good idea.
It's probably even better than their current FI Scuderia line-up. Kidding of course I think it's a very nice conversion and probably very reliable to. A big thumps up from me!
Cyclist don't hear you coming. Perfect opportunity to revive the old clothspins and playing cards in the spokes tec, you used on your bike as a kid
No issues with the electric change. It's your (or someone's) car. It's faster and handles better...it's a Tesla motor and the car's been rebuilt, I should hope so. The whistely engine sound is kinda' cool.
Comments: If you are getting 180 or so miles on a tank then your engine is in need of help. I get around 250. Also, a Ferrari 308 engine with 50K miles is not "tired" unless it's been poorly maintained. Well maintained Ferrari engines will run 100K miles.
Point is, to maintain an old Ferrari well, that costs almost as much as a rebuilding of the engine. That is why many are not well maintained. Besides that, 100K makes Japanese engineers laugh (Honda NSX anyone?). Let us face it, old Ferrari's are beautiful for eye and ear, but they are crap quality otherwise.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Everyone to his own opinion. I'm glad you think Ferrari's are crap...that way you won't buy one.
Tom J - So opinions aside, how do you explain several Acuras Nsx in the US having reached over 417k miles with factory engine, running like day one ???...
@@Paulomagalhaes495 lmfao not running like day one for sure ... ffs some mercedes and bmw's ran over a million miles and are still going toyota also your rebadged honda isnt special by any means
666 racing and gaming ... And what kind of Merc & Bimmer are you referring to, V8 limousines ?... Diesel engines ?...
Sorry, not the same "Mid-engine Super Car Champions League" !... FM & AM is not the same wave lenght ...
James brought me here to your channel. Your character, enthusiasm, personality and humility made me stay. Hats off to you good Sir!
Why thank you 🙏!!!
Great video!! I asked London Electric Cars about doing this to mine. It would be quite a commitment both financially and the fact there is no going back. This may well be the only viable future in 20 years if the liquid fuel network eventually atrophies.
Driving pleasure ceases to be about speed once you've tried it. Fred tells you that. Tactile, auditory, sensual stuff - even smells - if you have cars over fifty years old, it's all a combination of these that gives driving pleasure. This is a bit sad - for a petrol head. Good video. Thanks.
Best review of an EV I’ve seen. You’ve really managed to catch the sensation of acceleration and the sound of the turbines? Loved it! 👍🏽
A Ferrari that sounds like a scalextric car. Conversation ends there I think.
I've always loved the beauty of the Ferrari 308. I've always hated how expensive it would be to maintain and keep it on the road. This gorgeous car has now been turned into an everyday driver that is going to be FAR more reliable, while performing MUCH better! I would much rather have this car than the ICE original version. As for that original ICE sound, I might consider installing some loudspeakers in the rear, an amplifier, and a synthesizer tied to the speedometer.
The world is best when you got the smell and noice. Compaire that sound with the V8 are you shitting me?
Its the future of keeping classics on the road! Fair play to him
Nice work on the conversion!
You do realise that when you're frolicking about in your PJs you look rather like someone who has wandered off out of a care home? I'm surprised someone hasn't reported you yet. Haha!!
First: great name! Second: I like to be ready for when I’m readmitted
I literally came here to say the same..I have those pyjamas bottoms on right now 😂...as for the car, great idea and execution, but somehow leave me wanting more in terms of sound. It needs a growl.
@@AllanFarrell oh dear, he's not going to be very happy if you've pinched his pyjamas! Haha
Allan Farrell where are those Jim jams from? I love the colours/pattern in them.
@@GenaF I bought them in Primark/Penney's I think!
You know what I'd compare this to? When CDs came out, and a few people said, "I still like vinyl records better." It was right at 11:40 for about 30 seconds that put me in that mindset. Maybe for most performances and most bands, the crisp, clean, clear sound of compact disc is preferable. But there's that one special Al Jolson song, or an opera piece your parents used to play, that will only ever sound proper to you when there's a bit of scratch to it ...
Ha, I like that comparison! Thanks for watching Mark
I soo get it. My dream daily would be an electric Citroën DS, or SM, or seventies long wheelbase S class. You're right, it is the future.
Great video. Good to see that the future for classic cars is so good!
Cool project, but It just seems a bit pointless. It may be 'better', but so is any modern car by comparison. If ICE cars were completely banned or the fuel had run out, & this was a way to maintain a classic on the road, I get it. but cars like this are for enjoying, & there's nothing stopping you enjoying the original car with the V8.
If fuel runs out in my lifetime, I will stick my classics in my living room and admire them like you do with art. Going electric defies the purpose
@@dimi911 Oh come on you two! "pointless"? "defies the purpose"? Isn't the point or purpose to actually DRIVE the car? If this car came with a ripping sound system that mimics an ICE engine, it would be a hands down winner.
I feel like the best benefit is the reliability of the electric motor. It means you can drive it everywhere as a daily without (essentially) any maintenance.
Sticking a car in your living room and not driving it is probably the worst thing you can do besides destroy it.
But the lack of manual..... oof.
nope ektruc beter
A crime against humanity that..a noiseless Ferrari! I'd take the Influenzo any day. Great vid though, as always.
Love it, I’m sure you can replicate the sound electronically and it would make the perfect 308!
Watching Vintage Voltage and the amazing restoration of a BMW 1602 to electric. It was stunning to see and as impressive as the 308 on show the other day..
This is the way forward...
giud éktruç cuversion
Makes me think of the first newer Star Trek movie with Chris Pine as Captain Kirk driving a 60s Mustang in the 22nd century? It’s super cool and a great fusion of old and new tech. You’re right not to do it on the Influenzo Jack. As James May would say I like it ‘standard’. The concept done on a bespoke chassis or even a Tesla Model 3 platform as a high end homage/replica would be fantastic but please don’t cut up any more actual 308s!
Looks really nicely done! But I think it would sound better if you removed the air filter cover. 😉 That being said -- a car with better performance specs is not always a better car. By rights a 2020 Porsche 911 GTS outperforms my :69 2.0E. But would I love it more? Does it involve me more in the drive? When I drive it, will I still feel the connection back to Stommelen? Mitter? Will I hear the connection to the 917? Not so much. The same is potentially true with the 308 GTE. Choose wisely.
jehl1963 well said. I think this type of conversion will appeal more to younger generations who have grown up with EV’s becoming the new normal.
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The ONLY 308 in the world that you can daily with no headaches, BRAVOOO 👏
And when you run out of electric charge the whole car needs to be put on a transporter , with petrol you can walk to a petrol station ! Electric cars are not maintenance free and those battery packs are expensive to replace
EVs are actually causing a lot of headaches.
Haa, all those wires in there almost look like a flux capacitor, great Scott!!!
This type of electric transformation I can definitely live with. Bring it on.
As a petrol head, what I can't stand is the huge amount of nice premium cars with small four-cylinder diesel engines (C class, E class, 3 series, 5 series, A4, A6, XF, etc, etc, etc.), and their owners feeling like they're driving "the ultimate driving machine". This is especially rife in Europe.
If those owners do feel that way, they are happy owners. So why can't you stand people being happy ? But I do understand what you mean. A lot are business lease cars and the owners do not have a big choice from the company in engine/power.Usually very small capacity diesel engines. The brands however have given them a very good choice in interior and exterior options and gadgets, just to make people feel happy. I am a petrol head, like you, and do own an old lotus esprit. But I also have that typical premium 4 cylinder lease car from the job. For the first time , it is a hybrid and although a 4 cyl diesel ( mercedes C300de) it has a combined power of 306PK and a whopping mountain of 700Nm torque. And this is way different to my previous 4 cylinder diesels.(BMW 320d or Alfa Romeo 156 or .....)
Still, the old lotus esprit is more of a petrolhead car than the quick Merc
Really interesting! It makes me wonder whether Lotus are on to something with their future electric plans too...
A thought provoking video for sure.
This must come down to personal preference surely?
Personally I love the shape of the 308/328 family and if my only option was electric then I would make the conversion.
However, personally a Ferrari for me has to make noise. The engine is as important as the looks and although I accept that this converted car drives and performs better than the original, that, for me, is slightly missing the point.
I applaud the owner for keeping his passion alive and his car fresh but if I owned one it would be petrol. 😉
I understand the noise thing, I really do, but I think as we move into the future, noise will be seen more and more as an annoying achronism. People will detest the sound of a loud motor, regulations will restrict the noise (even for older cars) and the experience will be altogether less appealing. Embrace the future.
Did the guys at Vintage Voltage in Wales do the conversion? The new tv series is on Thursday nights on Quest TV channel. The reason I ask is I am currently watching tonight’s show (electrifying a BMW 2002) and in the workshop is a Ferrari 308 in the workshop.
That's a fascinating video, and I really appreciate the honesty. It would have been so easy just to pretend that it was massively inferior to the real car.
But it raises an interesting question. Is a Ferrari that's been so radically altered still a Ferrari at all? I don't really see how it can be. And if it isn't, then why not just build a replica Ferrari with an electric motor and non-Ferrari components?
I'd imagine that you could build it to look exactly the same, but with modern brakes, suspension, lights etc that would be a lot better than the original, but supplied at a fraction of the cost by mainstream manufacturers.
As well as forgetting about the cost of maintenance for the mechanical side you could then stop worrying about maintenance costs completely.
It becomes almost a philosophical question - what is a Ferrari?
Terrific! I think You can get internal cabin engine sound already, (eg Renault/Peugeot?) not long until a synthesised full external sound will be available.
I'm all for ! Keep this visual legend alive, but give it a smaller carbon footprint. Leave the noisy motors for the show off-ers. But adding some motor sound might be safer for other people on the road.
This opens the fantastic opportunity for virtually all old classics to be revived or resurrected.
Nice balanced review! I personally dont think its for me but i didnt drive it. In a car like a 308 its got to be about the noise and the feeling the car gives you and not just the performance.
Congrats to the owner for going out on a limb to do the conversion 👍Thanks for doing a great review on the 308E 👍
Not for me I’m afraid. Heresy! Just because you could, doesn’t mean you should .....
On the subject of classic car engine noise with a transformed vehicle, there is a device which can be purchased ($1000) and it plays sound files through the car so you can still have authentic engine sounds.
This is brilliant. I love the 308 and I love EV. Combining the two makes something even better than the originals.
The future and the past in one! Great job on it.
Tragic!! 😊 Ferrari's were sold (and bought) for their engines!
Corran Helme have to say that we’re in the minority here, but totally agree.
Nice review.
I watch videos on conversions like this with genuine interest but have never yet been convinced by such a transformation.
In fact the truth is that those pyjama bottoms have now put me off the idea of considering it. Forever.
I think this sort of thing is going to be a big business in the coming years and I can totally understand why! The future is bright 🌞! Cracking video as always Jack 👌 👏
I agree I can imagine restoring a beautiful but not especially rare Citroen or Mercedes and having a beautiful car that wafts across the miles with all the old school panache and modern reliability.
@Graham Thank you for your reply and sharing your unrelated opinion; I must admit that I can sleep at night now I know your view.
Nowhere did I comment on resource consumption or suggest it was anything but a toy? It is a Ferrari, the very definition of a toy; mind you with the electric motor it is probably going to provide more trouble free miles even if it provides less usable range then ICE.
In fact all I said was that I can imagine an old Citroen or Mercedes both of which in my opinion are more about their handling and 'waftability' then their engines per se being quite enjoyable to convert to electric for trouble free modern reliability.
Perhaps read people's comments before replying with negativity and ill conceived responses that do not relate to comment itself.
FYI, you may be frustrated by the whole zero emissions furphy as indeed there is no such thing as a zero emission vehicle when you consider the whole life cycle.
There are emissions from the production, support side of usage and from recycling (because of Lithium battery recycling is actually significantly higher (more than 25% higher).
However, a recent study in Australia suggests that EVs here come out approximately 18% lower per km in whole of life emissions than an ICE Car (We have 21% renewable power). In NZ where they have approximately 84% renewable an EV emissions are more than 60% more efficient per km. ( Neither Australia or NZ have nuclear power so the definition of renewable has not been skewed by that which is also a furphy.)
@@MrCarrera28 sounds really cool, I'd definitely buy something like that 😀
Great vid, thanks to you and Pete for sharing.
I would miss the noise and working the engine while driving. But is is an interesting idea.
Imagine if Tesla built a car that looked like that. Or if Ferrari built an electric with retro design?
Check out the Tesla Roadster Gen2, coming soon.
Yes .. Ferrari will build a pure electric one day..
I doubt Ferrari would build a retro design electric car. The pedestrian crash legislation would make the front end design gash.
Nice thought though👍
@@PeteCourtier It is a nice thought.
@@originalsubwayjones Unless they change their design by very much....
would you put an erkin great electric motor in Mallard ?
"Anna Thema"?
I think I used to date her sister. :)
I once dated an Anna Philaxa...not a good experience.
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I went on a date with Anna Notherone. Didn't go well 🙄🤷♂️
And her sister Notta is just toxic
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Work of absolute genius. I'd make room in the garage for a petrol one and an electric one.
With all it's faults, the 308 engine was part of the magic. It was the baby of the family and oodles of fun for a man in his twenties. And the gear box and shift was essential to the theatre. Mastering heel and toe is a right of passage. Ahhh the joy of youth, thrashing a qv to the red line.
*rite of passage.
I should be happy to see undeserving Ferrari owners write-off their cars as it pushes the value of my mine up every time another one is destroyed. But being someone who genuinely loves Ferraris it actually breaks my heart to see them turned into Teslas which will only depreciate, eventually sold for parts and the owners left looking utterly stupid. Question: Do you think they would ever do this to 250 GTO? Of course not, because it would ruin it. Ruined just like what they have done to this 308 GTS
Couldn’t agree more. Fortunately only a few owners wanting to jump on the electric bandwagon are likely to destroy their classic Ferraris (if only they waited a few years they could have run their cars on synthetic fuels like the rest of us will be doing).
Firstly I’d like to say, from the engineering point of view, this is absolutely amazing and it really shows you what can be achieved. She also looks absolutely gorgeous, the wheels are perfect too. However, for me, you don’t buy a car like that to hear nothing, you buy a car like that for the engine, for the feel and the noise, burning pure dinosaur out the exhaust, that’s what it’s about for me, in my opinion. Top video as always
Magnum PI would be a different show with this setup
OMG! That is amazing! Surly the future of classic cars?
The Yanks have done similar for 20 years, with their vulgar LS engine swapped classic cars. This is the much cooler version of a swap.
Interesting car. Not really a fan of ev's but still. Like the way it sits. Always loved the 308. Great channel 👍
Thank you Nieko!!
"The engine is a big part of these cars."
No shit.
As much as I like this conversion, a Ferrari is the engine, the chassis is just a passenger.
Beautiful car, it is wonderful to see the attention to detail in the conversion.
You just need a copy of the Outrun arcade game soundtrack in that tape deck. That will make up for the lack of engine note
On another episode, where he identified & resolves his coil issue, (possibly with his new exhaust) I genuinely don't like the sound. I've never really been a fan of V8's & he himself says it's the worst V8 in any Ferrari, so I agree with people re soundtracks. The drive is more important than the sound. The sound will be missed, but having a far more beautiful, older car that drives modern & better, is better than a ropey, slow, hard to drive car with problems, wondering what's going to blow next & at what cost.
Speed, reliability and servicing are a plus for sure but it's all about the engine sound for me and that's alot of money to have it converted. Very interesting film. Thanks for posting.
Having owned quite a few 308 328 I would love to drive this car, fantastic. To tell the truth I got fed up with the noise from the old v 8
Much cooler to be fast and quiet
Less Plod can tell where you're speeding, unless you blast past them, & neighbours are less likely to complain!
Love the way your pants pay homage to the Bay City Rollers!
Really impressed that it can have a reasonable range without adding significant weight. Makes you wonder why all of the mainstream manufacturers EVs are so heavy or have only 100 miles range?
It's easy when the car is tiny with a low profile, like the first Tesla Roadster.
It get's exponentially worse with larger cars.
In addition, this range isn't terrific compared to modern EVs. It's about half of what you would expect from a decent 50k-60k range EV today. Plenty for a weekend car like this, but not stellar.
100 mile range?? 200/300 mile range.
I think this makes a lot of sense for an old car with an engine in a very poor state of repair. I think we will see more conversions like this over time, particularly as electric kits tank in price.
I don't think the range really matters in a car like this. It'd presumably be mostly used for short trips anyway.
love old cars but we have some awsome things to come.
Love it! has the performance now to go along with the looks.
I really don't think anyone would think of this as sacrilegious (hopefully). I think it's awesome and with the coming demise of fossil fuels it's something we have to embrace if we want to see and keep old classics on the road. Just imagine an electric Intergrale or Lotus Cortina!
Good objective analysis Jack, hats off to Pete.
Thanks Seedy!!
Perfect car for that mod ;)
Another excellent, informative, balanced video. You cover all the pertinent points of this debate. As the owner enjoyed the heart and soul of his 308 for 28 years I can accept his decision to trade emotional character for objective performance and usability. I would struggle to respect the decision of someone who bought their first Ferrari already converted, however. Surely they’d be missing out?
Poor Enzo spinning in his grave!
Wrap him in copper wire and he'll generate enough current to charge the car.
@@adrianchell ... for 3 seconds...
Ferrari will be making e cars
@@Cre8Lounge are you sure ?
@@lorenzovelealvento4408 already do. The La Ferrari ( the fastest Ferrari) is an E- hybrid.
It's a beautifully visual vintage Ferrari that drives thoroughly modern! Yes, it does not have the Ferrari sound but it also does not have the expensive engine rebuilds, even oil changes. You have incredible acceleration and with the quiet you can really just enjoy the motoring! Because it is thoroughly modern you will not be afraid to drive it daily. As for all you so-called enthusiasts scared to get your garage queens dirty or add a mile to the odometer, with this set up you will not be scared to come out of the closet...garage!
What a beautiful conversion, none of the mechanical shenanigans, finally some decent power and damm those wheels look soooooo good!
A Ferrari you can live with .. I'd have one, although I'd also have David Lee's with the 430 motor 😂
This is the future and Peter has done a very smart thing.... it is terrific car on many levels! Apologies to the aficionados.
I know these things are the future, but they are about as exciting as watching paint dry. None the less, as always, your videos are interesting and entertaining.
nope more fúñ
With cars for me it is all about the looks so this would be perfect. Awesome car and vlog. Keep up the good work.
Thank you sir!