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Unfortunately this is a bit out of date as I haven't had much time to make new content due to running the store and website, but much of it still holds true. The Combat Patrols, even the new one, while not great on the points side of things for Admech are good on the dollar aspect. The new one also offers a variety of mobility units you'll want at some point as they're good for holding objectives. Ironstriders and Skitarii are still solid choices as well. One thing to keep in mind is that Admech is an expensive army as their units tend to be lower in cost so keep that in mind when going into it. Though if you pick up bundle boxes and shop at places such as our website that offers a 15% discount you can really mitigate a good chunk of the cost.

Thanks! Though I should say this is from a previous edition, but should help with general concepts regardless. One day I'll hopefully be able to make content again, though business is busy.

Hopefully one day, business is crazy busy lately so unfortunately it's hard to find the time.

It's a decent choice, and you can still find them sometimes in the wild.

The Dunecrawler is one of my favorites as far as models go and I've been happy with how it's done as it's brutally resilient. Sad to see it go from the Combat Patrol, but we still have one in stock which is cool and I've got my three from old Start Collecting kits, maybe they'll make another bundle box with them in it.

I'm optimistic about their capabilities, as some of the sub factions look like a lot of fun, but it's hard to say how they'll preform long term.

@@Techpriest I will say i like the capabilities but overall 5 detachments feels very low for how many different playstyles the army was meant to leverage. Make me wonder if new detachment might get release in white dwarfs like Armies of renown of ninth edition.

I think the ones we got have a lot of meat on the bone, but would be cool if they gave us a couple more in future campaign books. The biggest thing I'd like to see if they do give us more in that way is for them to do something more unique as what we have now is very much the standard of what Admech have had in the past.

Happy I could be of help, hopefully I can continue to be so.

Stilt boy is best boy. He looks like a fun model to paint, but I wish you could have whole units of him just for the style points. One cool thing about the new codex is Radium Jezzail Dragoons might be playable for real this time and things like the Electro-Priests finally have a home. Even if we don't end up being a top army, the new codex looks like fun.

Probably will make videos for it, but they might be shorter ones. The work put in isn't so much an issue as the time required with all of the other projects going on.

That's a great question, right now we're so new we have a rather small customer base but I've been running a quarterly league that's free to enter and has prize support mostly designed for new players to get more into the game itself. Outside of that I try to keep a good inventory so people can find what they need and being one of the few stores to offer 15% off as well as bringing in the specialty games helps. There are also a lot of other things we do that's promotional to keep people coming in which I'll go more in depth in a video as it's almost a full video in itself.

ooooh looking forward to that video. Make it like one of your codex/list reviews

The funniest part about it is they were given the option to sign up for a free 40K Combat Patrol league where they probably would have won more in free stuff than they stole just because of how few players there are. Thanks, it's good to be back. I'll probably do some more shorter videos about the store and answer questions in regards to the business aspect in them as that seem to be something people are curious about.

Really appreciate it, and if you're looking for the holiday boxes we do still have all of them available except the Tyranid one and they'll be 15% off, as well as qualify for free shipping as they're above 140$. We do only ship in the US, but if you are send over an email or use the contact form on the website, that way I can create a private link and send it your way once they go live on the 24th/25th (we'll be closed the 24th though the link may still go up, if not then the 25th).

Thanks, who knows, maybe one day I'll have a location out in your country as well.

Thanks! Great to see folks still remember me after the long absence, hopefully sometime soon I can make some battle reports and the like.

It sure is, and I will say if you do plan on opening a location like this, keep in mind that you have to love the business side of things as much as the hobby side as a lot of the work is backend behind the scenes type of things that can be very frustrating at times. Though hopefully if things go well we'll be opening a second location within a years time, as well as expanding this location as there's a second unit of the same size we can rent across the hall where we'd put tables, vending machines, and arcade/claw machines if we do rent it.

@@Techpriest What do you find to be your favorite part of the business side (aside from succeeding).

@@bifman22 I enjoy most of it, but there's a certain thrill to the speculation aspect of ordering product where you can essentially make bets on how much of what you bring in based on what you think will be a good seller. That and the general ability to hustle by sourcing products from different places if an allocation is small or you think you can make use of other's inventory that doesn't sell in their location. Part of why I'd rather open more stores than simply one bigger store is the ability to do a sort of crop rotation with products as certain items simply have more demand in certain places.

@@Techpriest Well, i noticed you had Gallowfall, so i HAD to get myself a copy. I suppose that makes sense, my store has a different goal in mind but hopefully it pans out. Best of Luck!

@@bifman22 Awesome, and thank you so much I really appreciate it! I'll have it out in the mail today as we aim to ship within 24 hours of the order being placed. By the way, if you're looking for any of the Holiday boxes we still have most of them available except the Tyranid one and they'll be 15% off.

It's funny how this once again becomes relevant.

It's a rough life being a Mechanicus player sometimes.

Mortarion is a very awesome looking model and despite the DG having an aesthetic I don't normally like, their models do look good enough that I enjoy them despite that. I should warn you though, this video is old at this point and for the 9th Edition rules. I'm slowly covering all of the Combat Patrols now for 10th and will be looking at lists as I find interesting ones. Unfortunately DG seems to be a bit weak at the current time, though they update rules enough that they'll probably bring them up in power sooner than later which is nice.

Completely agree, and the Boarding Patrol was a huge missed opportunity for that as keeping a Combat Patrol focused isn't bad in itself but when additional box sets are more of the same it's a bummer.

I'm with you on that, I wish they offered multiple builds for players to try, thus giving the format more depth and replayability overall. Unfortunately they chose to simply use the box art as the only build without any regard for how the rules had evolved. On the plus side, I'm currently working on videos for other Combat Patrols and they did remove most special abilities from the box rules, which makes things a little better.

Happy to hear you enjoyed the videos.

Sometimes brain returns error code. Beep boop.

Very true, and thanks for pointing out the Enhancement rules. I figured it was too good to be true but the Skorpius points cost made me doubt my sanity. If I'd take it, it would probably be on the Dominus as filler for all the reasons you mentioned, and I'm probably not running a Manipulus in most lists. Now that I'm working on a few videos for other armies, I'm starting to feel like Admech got hit pretty hard with the nerfs in terms of AP specifically. Weaker armor saves and lower movement speeds seem to be more normalized though.

@@Techpriest Manipulus /w Annihilator sustained + lethal hits on Breachers is quite the boost. But man, comparing Dominus which gives 5+++ always, while Manipulus only gives 4++ once per game at the start of a phase (rather than when the opponent selects your unit) really hurts his chances. As for Admech on the whole what hurts the most for me is the removal of any sort of strategy; their army rule, detachment rule and datasheets do nothing interesting, so all people can do for now is look at raw stats and build the only viable lists from those alone (ignoring melee, which also got a general -1 WS nerf but the Army Rule only affects Ranged weapons... huh?). I don't know what the designer's were thinking when they came up with our "Battleline buff" meme either, considering it only works for Kataphrons (only ones with the same speed and mid board placement as our troops), it's just obvious on its face that Fast attack, Infiltrating and Deep Strike units don't want to be close to Rangers to get their buffs - Why not give the aura to Data-Tether units, or Leaders... Why the troops? Makes no sense. oh well

I'm with you on the whole Battle Line thing, it doesn't make any sense to me. I get they want to encourage more unit variety, but I feel like the execution just doesn't really work and could have been done much more elegantly.

While a good idea, I just can't bring myself to do so with things like Skitarii and Sicarians.

Glad to hear you enjoyed it but unfortunately 10th Edition just hit, but have no fear new Necron content is in the works for the new rules and should be out soonish.

Three might be a bit much but I think two is fine. Mostly what makes me avoid three is you can still find Boarding Patrols out in the wild as well as some other box sets where you can get the Kataphrons and Skitarii in a good number. Maybe if you run into being unable to get any of the other sets the third Combat Patrol becomes more appealing.

Happy to be of help and hope it helps others as well. It's a bit of a shame they used the logic that it should match the box art without giving alternative builds, but if they did have that in mind they might have wanted to format the units differently in the Index itself but I doubt they really thought that far ahead unfortunately.

Happy to be of help and good choices on the build out. I'd highly recommend magnetizing larger units though as it can be fun to play around with different options. All you really need to do it is a small hand drill, such as this: venturetradeco.com/product/hobby-hand-drill-set/ and some small magnets (coming soon^tm). With some units like the Skorpius and Kastelans you can even accomplish interchangeable loadouts without magnets which is nice.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll probably try it next time with magnets. 😅

It's a bit of a pain the first time, but once you get a feel for it, it's pretty easy. A few tips is that before using the drill, make a small indent or score with the hobby knife you use where you want to drill as it will let the bit bite in a bit easier. Another thing is try to make all the magnets face the same direction in all the bits for a given unit type, that way all the bits work with all t he models they go on instead of having to match the right ones, and finally don't stress magnetizing and painting everything at once, do the load out you want and move on until you want to try the other options and then work on them.

Completely agree, it's an awesome box set for value but poor combat patrol rules. If I was starting Admech today and couldn't find the Boarding Patrol, I'd buy 2x Combat Patrol. If I can get a Boarding Patrol, I'd buy one of each and still consider a second Combat Patrol down the line.

I might be biased but I'm hyped for the Onager in 10th, it seems very durable naturally and has enough output to be fun.

Completely agree and I think the forced loadout is setting up new players to fail both in this mode and going into larger games. I wish they gave you the option to either build shooty with one list like they did in this one, and then offered the alternative that's the same but uses Vanguard and Breachers for an aggressive build. That way players can choose between two easy options still based on how they like to play the game.

Strange, it's there but TH-cam isn't recognizing it as a URL despite being one. I'll have to play around and get it to hyperlink, thanks for letting me know.

thats not how that works. Plus 1 to hits dont stack so no matter what the best you can get is a 3+.

@@scottyscott402 You're right. Core Rules page 21 "A Hit roll can never be modified by more than -1 or +1."

Still, the defensive abilities do stack. Cover will still improve the save against AP -3 or better and Protector should still stack with that. A T10 2+ 4++ tank would definitely frustrate an army like Sisters who rely on S9 metla shots. You could also play aggressive. Keep it in reserves. After a turn or two of rad bombardment, use the indirect fire in Conqueror Imperative to clean off their home objective. The -1 AP would cancel out the indirect fire penalty. I agree about the points, though. It's not an auto-include. I'm trying to figure out good combos. I don't think it's an auto-pass either. I'm still partial to the skorpius. Edit: The official app doesn't let you add the omni-steriliser to anything other than characters. It's probably safe to assume that will get errata'd at some point. Still a good pickup for the Manipulus.

@PostProteusKitten tbf I run one in my list. I don't see a way in our army to get to 2+ to hit....:(

@@scottyscott402 nope, me either. It at least needs to be easier to take advantage of Heavy. Being stationary is a big handicap. I think it's rare I'll ever use Protector over Conqueror before turn 3. Even then not every unit can stand still. Bringing an allied Knight that hits on 3+ with no other buffs is probably still better for the points than admech vehicles that hit on 4+ and only sometimes get buffs.

Rangers feel really wrong this edition, but Vanguard seem okish. I'll be playing 1-2 squads just to support other units if that.

I think Rangers could stay at 125pts if they gained 3+ BS, or -1ap on their rifles. I think there would be a case for both Vanguard and Rangers with a change like that

I don't know why, but your comment got held for review despite my settings being to allow all comments, should be approved now though. I do agree with you though, at 3+ ballistic skill and -1 AP on the Rangers they'd be fine as a 125 point unit. The Vanguard might be ok where they are but maybe if they got a small something it wouldn't make them too good either.

I'd never pick the marshal honestly it's sad to say but even with his buffs the skitarii do pitiful amount of damage and he himself is utterly useless! Even with the upgrade to change doctrine you have a unit that costs 155 for vanguards and a utterly insane 180 for rangers...that does...nothing ahaha there is 0 reason to take the marshal. For the price of a marshal with upgrade (55 points) you can have an inquisitor which gives you a higher leadership model, with a 2d6 psychic flamer a combi weapons and decent melee that also gives skitarii a feel no pain and a 3+ cp refund on top of the skitarii 5+ cp refund. There is 0 reason to take marshal

That's a very fair criticism, and very true with some units as often times I'll not have much to say about units like the Marshal if I don't particularly think they bring much to the table. The "certain situations" part is more to be optimistic and say if you like the abilities don't let me stop you from trying the model out as maybe there's a use. I'll try to be a bit more in depth on those units as I could probably do a better job explaining why I think they might be lacking.

​@@jackcanox4015If most of your army including your backline firepower is in your deployment zone then you would probably take the protector doctrina for -1ap and heavy. If you take the marshal with the enhancement, then it could give a fast unit like dragoons, sulphur hounds or rust stalkers the other doctrina, giving them assault, +1ap to enemies in their deployment zone. Importantly, also gives the the forward unit access to the advance and charge strat

The Index does feel strange as it seems to be at odds with itself, but one thing I get from it is that Admech seems to be more midranged now than shooty. Mostly makes me want to run Breachers and Onagers, then some amount of Sydonians/Kastelans/Ruststalkers. What units did you run in the list?

@@Techpriest i ran 5 breachers with Cawl, a scorpius disintigrator with ferumite cannon. An engineer for the disintegrator, 10 vanguard and a dragoon. The ferumite cannon utterly failed to kill the T-fex. Vanguard killed some guunts but not much else. Cawls buffs seemed non impactfull and i think ill be switching him out for something else at 185 points. The dragoon was most useful for objective control and disruption. Knights i had 1 crusader and 5 armagers.

I'm not a big fan of the Ferumite if it can't combo with the Sterilizer enhancement but the Belleros can be ok. Cawl is interesting but the 6" movement always feels so rough, and the Dominus with the Stealth Enhancement feels like you get most of what you want from Cawl. Great to hear the the Dragoon was good, they seem really fun in 10th. Cool list though and thanks for sharing it, always awesome to see some Knights in the mix.

Maybe, but I hope you can take the Omni-Sterilizer on vehicles as that would be a lot of fun.

12" Range: 1d6+3 [Devastating wounds, Torrent, Anti Infantry 2+, Anti Monster 4+] BS:N/A S:4 AP:0 D:2 That's on average: 6.5 hits, 5.4 wounds of 2+ = 10.8 mortals. in your shooting and on overwatch... that's super scary. Even the Vulkite Blaster on the Dominus becomes scary with that Sterilizer: 24" A:6 WS:3+ S:5 AP:0 D:2 means: 4 hit's on average 3.33 wounds to infantry and 6.66 Mortals. Sterilizer + Dev wounds = Big Nasty.

Yup, ways to modify crits can be scary.

The fact we can only attach them to battleline is really disappointing. My ruststalkers needed the hit rerolls.

Yup, that was the biggest let down of the Marshal was that he couldn't lead Sicarians. Maybe they'll release a character for them which would be cool.

I struggle to find a scenario where you can benefit from the Heavy keyword. I miss reignment of the technomartyr

Heavy just gives +1 to hit if stationary in 10th, so it can be nice with good vantage points.

Thanks, hopefully the audio quality isn't too terrible.

Some things are a bit bad but others are rather interesting. Most things get a bit of a nerf when a new edition comes out so it can always improve down the road.

Agreed, and I'm mostly happy the reduced conga line potential as it looks strange on the table, though it does create some issues.

@@Techpriest The army rule should also work within 6 inches of objectives as it would make conga lineing unnecessary. objectives are where the game is played.

That's a good point I hadn't considered. After looking at the Enginseer in the 10th rules, I think I like him a lot in comparison to his past incarnations.

I didn't even realized you could do that! I never gave them a first look, let alone a second.

@@Techpriest I might be smoking crack... but I starting to think the 45pts is better spent on an enginseer to repair and give a skorpius 4++ than taking a Marshal. Strange days...

That is a very interesting idea. Unfortunately it does make you lose out on the 5+ fnp from the dominus. I have some servo skull models that will make perfect servitors

I've recorded part 3 and the Enginseer is pretty exciting in a few ways, will be interesting to see how he does in actual play though.

That's an interesting question and I can't say for sure, but I decided to check three armies I know just now, being, Sisters, Necrons, and Deathguard. They all have the army wide ability on all of their units as far as I can see. I think some of the Grey Knights units don't have their special ability. Edit: Looking at Tau, Kroot and Vespid units don't have their faction keyword. But, all of their secondary abilities seem weaker than Rad Bombardment and I will say I don't mind some units not having the faction ability if their raw power makes up for it. That being said, I don't know if the raw power of the Admech units does make up for it in terms of those that don't have Doctrinas.

Could be, and would be cool, but I think they accidentally added it when adding the Onager Phosphor Blaster and failed to remove it.

I think is the secondary shot from the neutron launcher, in the model you can see a stubber barrel coming out, so aswell as the icarus has the twin blasters and the rocket in the neutron launcher configuration you have the top mounter stubber and the built in gun blaster

That's a really good point, and unless they parse the weapons the Princep prints mortals against infantry and is the best part of the unit.

Im kindove sad our army rule doesn't buff damage for rust stalkers or any other melee only unit, we will have to wait until at least winter before a new army rule.

@@stuartlittledrowning4965 I feel you. Still, we're getting our codex before most armies.

@@PostProteusKitten i love my dragoons and i think they may still find use as fast tanky objective players when split into single units. They wont kill much hitting on 4+ but they could make good distraction canifex.