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Interesting. I’ve heard most are the uncensored versions. But what you said proves the point that you never really know unless you hear it for yourself. Amazing band and lots of great music to explore. Along with their “little brother band” the Stooges. Thanks for watching. Shawn

Hey Steve. Cool. That’s what I was thinking. These albums were big for me as a young teenager and I wanted to share some of the bands more obscure moments. Hope you are doing well. Thanks for watching. Shawn

I’ve read that the album came with a decal. That’s a cool little extra. Perhaps I’ll try to hunt that down. Thanks for watching.

@@poorboy59 ciao poorboy59! Grazie for watching. Such a powerful band. Never to be forgotten. Cheers!

@@theeaselrider4032 hmmm…I don’t know. I actually really like this picture of the band. Taken towards the end of their tenure. Electric Circus period.

@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 I know it isn't, but it sure does look like him.

I appreciate that very much. My taste for avant-garde music actually began with the MC5. On their first album, Kick Out the Jams, the band does a cover of a Sun Ra track that got me curious as a teenager who this Sun Ra was. So began an interest in jazz and more adventurous music. The bands manager was poet John Sinclair who educated these band about free jazz, poetry and radical left-wing politics. So in a strange way, this garage rock helped me find some amazing music. I'll always have a deep love for the MC5 or the Stooges or Roky Erickson because that was the music of those my rebellious teenage years. But, in truth, I've move beyond them too. Finding Moondog, William Basinski, techno and electronic music along the way. Thanks for watch! Shawn

@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 Yeah I totally get that, you can move on from bands while still holding them in a special place where you occasionally, or often for that matter, can come back to. Steve Carlson made a pretty interesting video about personal gateway artists/bands into genres. I've thought about doing something like that but so much of the music I listen to these days is sort of genre defying and not limited to just one genre, so it's a bit tricky.

Yea. I’m familiar with that album. It’s ok. Kinda funny to hear the different vocalists. Maybe that’s better than trying to recapture something that doesn’t exist anymore. Thanks for watching.

@@benrankins4446 Hey Ben. Thanks for the really great comment. Seeing Deniz Tek with 3 members of the Five seems like a dream come true. I can’t tell you how revered Tek is among Detroit music fans. And the entire scene around his move to Sydney. Strange how things work that way. Seeing all of them on stage together is like the holy grail garage rock. Interesting what you say about Wayne blocking the documentary. I know there was a lot of bad blood over the years. Although, it does seem that they eventually got over the hard feelings. Which is great. There were several attempts made to get the MC5 back together. The first being Rob Tyner in the late seventies. The “New MC5" eventually just became the Rob Tyner Band since Rob was the only member at that time willing to play their music. There’s a pretty cool 7’ of Rob Tyner with the Hot Rods (from the UK). Called Till the Night Is Gone (Let's Rock). It’s no big revaluation but it’s good to hear Tyner singing so well. There was the recently released MC5 album that only Wayne Kramer plays on. But sadly, it doesn’t live up to the legend. Not even close. Be well, my friend. Cheers! Shawn

@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 They were damn good too. Evan Dando was unexpectedly the best out of the guest vox. His lazy drawl was perfect for the Fred songs he did. Shakin' Street was sublime. Having said that Tex owned the stage as Tex does. It's very strange that Wayne blocked the doco because from what I know, he had a big hand in getting it made in the first place. Yeah I had a listen to that new MC5 & it doesn't have that distinct sound. You could hardly expect it when it's only got one original member. Cheers...Ben

@@EYEH8MOSTOFYOU Very cool for you to mention The Up. They certainly were part of that scene around the Grande Ballroom. I’ve heard them referred to as the “house band” for the Grande. And I know that John Sinclair considered them a part of the White Panther movement. There was a lot of togetherness around the Detroit scene among all the bands and musicians. Even the Amboy Dukes and the Bob Seger System were considered brothers in the music scene. The Up had some really good singles and Sinclair tried to bill them as the next MC5 after the 5 fired him as manager. You probably know that eventually Gary Rasmussen would join Fred Smith’s Sonic's Rendezvous Band. Perhaps in the future I can talk about the Up. There’s so many bands I’d love to discuss. Thanks for watching and commenting. Shawn.

@@corporalcornealiaspheffer8296 Wayne was born to be a rock star. A natural talent and showman, he always gave everything to the performance. Mostly I’m glad he had the opportunity to tour several years with the MC50 tribute show. He had some of the very best musicians working with him. They even released an album. Thanks for watching, my brother ✊

@@hanselmerson3366 I don’t know if they were the first band to release a live album as the first. It’s certainly an interesting idea. You’ll have to search online for copies of the 66 Breakout album; eBay? Or discog? A local shop? Which Mudhoney to start with? Hmmmm I think the first EP is great. But sample a few of the early albums on TH-cam. I’m sure that will point you in the right direction. Cheers!

@@Paneeks1960 I appreciate that. Those singles are nice to have and they sound great. I think they are a vital piece of the band’s history and musical legacy. They show a rawer version of the band before they discovered their true identity. Cheers. Shawn

Absolutely. I don’t necessarily disagree. And some of those versions are better than Heavy Liquid. But HL has some important track that I felt give it the nod. But it’s debatable for sure.

Hey brother. Thanks for watching and reaching out. Keep the faith.

That’s great Peter. I think you’ll be happy with both of these records and they can open up another area of collecting MC5 records. There are also other live recordings that have Additional songs that you likely have never heard before. It’s fun to find these missing tracks from the history of the band. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Shawn

@@EasyActionTV oh wow …very cool for you to drop a little note. I have a few different recordings from your label and always liked the unique output your label has produced. Heavy Liquid was a huge revelation for many of us fans. Finally, someone thoughtfully put together all the pieces of that final period of my favorite band. Of course, the entire box set was great but hearing everything boiled down to the essentials is a real gift. Thank you for sharing these tracks with us fans. We appreciate your label and the work that you do. Looking forward for whatever may come in the future. Cheers. Shawn

I’ll try to check that out. As much as I like the genre, not all drone is great. But when it’s good, it’s just unbelievable. Appreciate you watching and sharing. Cheers.

I’m familiar with it. That was what I bought initially. Only getting the vinyl later. Thanks for watching. Cheers

@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 Yeah the CD version was a grey colour but the vinyl in the mirrorboard for RSD looks stunning if i say so myself - plus its cover shots by Mick Rock help also, tiz a good comp cheers LES

Never saw that one. I initially bought the box set and later grabbed the vinyl version. That’s very cool that you did the artwork. Looks great. Thanks for watching.

@@anonyarena I think the later material is interesting only in the sense that we enjoy our heroes coming together. However, they are different men by the time they made those later releases. That’s just how I see it. That’s not to say that anyone else should feel that way. If you consider those albums as part of the Stooges overall catalog, that’s great. We all hear the music in our own way. Appreciate you watching.

Such a great album. Of all the records that came out of that scene, it’s the first few Mudhoney albums that I go back to. Everything I ever liked about rock music when I was a teenager are there on those albums. Thank you watching. Cheers.

When I think of 1965, my mind just goes to the Sonics. When I compare their first album to The Rolling Stones - I got to pick the Sonics. They were more developed and wild. Cheers. Shawn

Hey Stunty. I appreciate that. It was a real surprise to wake up to all these additional views. I got to admit, it’s kinda fun!

That’s a great quote. Zimmy sure knew his way around a great quote. I pulled Highway 61 out the other day and it still sounds great. You’ll love the Mudhoney. It’s just great, heartfelt music. Cheers. Shawn.

@@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd Three brilliant tracks. I just listened to Johanna today. There’s a great video of the reunion Stooges doing Open Up and Bleed. Amazing performance.

@@blahblahoink Thanks. I appreciate the feedback and you watching. This is an interesting area in the bands history and neither Iggy or James Williamson have made any significant effort to organize these tracks in a meaningful way.

Lol. Well noted. Never heard of anyone collecting wax cylinders but I’m good with it. Appreciate your insight and your watching. Cheers! Shawn

That’s awesome. My son is a Stooge fan too. Passing the tradition to the next generation! Lol. Thanks for watching. Shawn

Hey...thanks for watching. There’s a nice live release called Electric Circus that highlight those gigs about as good as we're going to get. Unfortunately, it's one of those bootleg recordinga that is pretty rough. But if we use our imaginations, we get some idea how a twin guitar line-up would have sounded. That should be a fun video to do. Cheer! Shawn

That’s interesting. I’m curious about that alternative sleeve. Very cool. There’s also a 4 CD box set that greatly expands on the material. Mostly it’s instrumental jams or repeats of the same material. But there is some interesting music included. Cheers

That’s really interesting. I found the album pretty young. My parents were not too happy about the music I liked at the time. And with Kill City, I had to sneak that album into house at the time. Lol. I loved the lifestyle desperation that I hear in the lyrics and the sleazy guitar groove of Williamson. I’m not sure why they don’t revisit the album. Would be a great treat for fans. Actually, I wish Iggy and James would reconsider many of these stray songs for an album. Thanks for watching. Cheers.

Lol. Why not? We enjoyed learning. I actually paid my way through so I often couldn’t take a full load of credits. I had a friend who didn’t get his degree until he was 40 something. Just taking a few classes at a time. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

I actually only saw Iggy once. For one reason or another, I missed my chance to see the reunion tour. Which is really a shame. It's always cool going to another city and people will immediately ask about the Stooges or the MC5. Nice that Detroit has a great legacy of music. Thanks for watching. Shawn

@ I have been living in Brazil since 2012 and Iggy is big down here too long with other Detroit bands.

I’ve thought the same thing many times. It’s such an obvious thing to do. They could have really given us the album so many have hoped for. James did revisit these stray songs on his own but it’s just not the record we want. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!

Track song and maybe the hightlight of the Kill City album. Time to put that album on the turntable when i get home. Cheers! Shawn

That’s a great comparison and a compliment for you and the band. Makes me glad that our boys in the Stooges stuck to their guns and never compromised their sound and showmanship. It wasn’t easy and they paid a huge price at the time. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!

@@Semprini537 I agree with that; it’s a wild sonic adventure. And the band was hot. It’s really the record that you would have expected with the producer of the first album, John Cale. I think the band was just extremely confident at this point. With very little concern about the commercial outcome of the record. Thanks for watching. Shawn

FUNHOUSE IS THE GREATEST ALBUM EVER MADE !!!!! The BEATLES are crap compared to this

@ Lol. Well, I’m not much of a Beatles fan. It’s not even a comparison. Funhouse is certainly my favorite of the original three albums. Much more avant-garde and wild than the first or third albums. But all three (or four) albums have their unique charms and recommendations.

@@scooter2377Why would you even mention the Beatles when discussing the Stooges? That’s just weird.

@Shikta-poobah67 SOOOO Weird sooooooo Strange!!!! Just not right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's so cool. We really don't have much video/recordings or even photos. I suppose these weren't big priorities at the time. lol. James Williamson did do a project were he played a lot of those stray tracks with different vocalist. It's ok but lacking the fire we want. It's a shame and Iggy and him wouldn't try to revisit those songs while it's still possible.

Are you familiar with the process of myth building? Much of US history is actually artificial myth building; creating a fake narrative by repeating a lie over and over. I believe this is being done with Dylan today. Turning him into an icon but striping the true complexity of the man away.

Hey, a fellow member of the D community! Very cool. I use to live in Hamtramck when i was attending WSU in the early 90s. We saw many, many shows at all those small local bars the Hamtramck was known for. Detroit has such a rich history of music and the Stooges and the MC5 are a huge part of that legacy. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

Tight Pants was one of those songs that always kept me interested in the band. Raw and aggressive but also a great rock track that was catchy and fun to have blasting aways in the car. I'm curious what label your 12' is on. Appreciate you watching. Shawn.

Shake appeal?

In Scotland in 1978 managed to pick up 3 track 'EP' a 7 inch containing tight pants and sick of you. On Bomp records. An import.​@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084

I’m sorry to disagree but I think there is enough here to give us a glimpse of what a 4th Stooges album would have sounded like. There was indeed talk of another album; and while these are obviously demos (as I stated) most are close enough to show the direction of the band. Perhaps it’s a matter of expectation; it’s not difficult for me to see my way through. In the same way that The Beach Boys never completed the Smile album. We still have enough to imagine what a Smile album would have sounded like. The same is true here. And it would be a shame to dismiss what we have as nothing more than incomplete demos. But it’s all good. We all hear the music differently. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Cheers! Shawn

​@ imo, not a good comparison; Smiley Smile is most of an unreleased album: immaculately conceived, rehearsed, recorded, produced and arranged songs on their own. The Stooges tracks aren't even at the level of the "lost" Velvet Underground MGM record (fully realized/recorded tracks that didn't find release until the '80s). You can tell the Stooges tracks are raw songwriting demos because the lyrics/vocals are often halfway formed, the playing is relatively sloppy and uneven, the recordings are rough and unedited, etc. If you listen to Fun House/RawPower demos, Iggy typically lays down throw-away lyrics that take on way more depth/ meaning on finished songs. These tracks are mostly like listening to those throw away lyrics and unfinished song structures.

For me , Sick of you IS the 4th album of the Stooges !!! Why don’t you talk at all about this record ?

@@matttkonture70 Because for me, Heavy Liquid is closer to the 4th album. You should make a video. Thanks for watching.

@@ghostexits Not to belabor the point any further, I didn’t say this was the fourth album. I said that It gives us some clues what a fourth album could have sounded like. And it very clearly does. Even James Williamson has mentioned as much in interviews. For me, albums like Heavy Liquid, Electric Circus and so many others are window into the “what could have been”. However, that kind of nuisance in the analysis is not for everyone. And that’s cool with me. All the best.

Bomp really did a service to Stooges fans in the 70/80/90. And in many ways Easy Action has released similar historically important material in the 2000s. Heavy Liquid was originally a 4 CD box set. It’s an interesting listen if you’re a hardcore fan. Although, most people won’t want to hear repeated tracks over and over. They have also released live material by the Sonic's Rendezvous Band; the band the featured a post-stooges Scott Asheton on drums. Sonic’s Rendezvous also featured Fred Sonic Smith of the MC5 on guitar. Have you heard of them? Well worth your time if you haven’t had the chance yet. Thanks for watching. Shawn.

I agree. Some how they sucked the life out of the record. It’s a shame. But I still love the album. You can really get a picture of the desperation of Iggy’s drug fueled lifestyle. Hey, thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn

Depends what version you got . The recent remaster sounded good to me

@ i haven’t heard the remaster. I only know the original version of the record. The overall sound is “dull”. Oddly, I’m so used to this lackluster mastering that I’ve learned to enjoy its charm. But I’ll grab a copy of the more remaster to hear the comparison.

That’s true. Bowie rescued Iggy from poverty on a number of occasions. In exchange, Bowie felt inspired by Iggy’s creativity and rawness. Ziggy = Iggy. Bowie continued helping Iggy throughout the 70-80.

@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 Bowie's version of "China Girl" is also Really Good.