Classics now in my opinion. Journey in Satchidinanda was very much the gateway for me. Never thought spiritual jazz could be that beautiful. It felt like its own world. I've since gone heavy into that sound and will grab anything that hits even spiritual aspects. Black Unity Trio certainly not as easy a listen but is dedicated to so much of the same aspects. Keep the good stuff coming Shawn!
Great showing Shawn. I’ll admit that I need more Don Cherry and Alice Coltrane in my collection. Such a great music. And it makes a perfect sense why that so challenging music is not very challanging for you. 😉👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hey Mariusz. Good to hear from you. Well I’m probably guilty of having some more obscure musical tastes. Lol. But I know you have a taste for the more complex and interesting when it comes to art. Actually, I think that’s a healthy place to be for an adult. Being adventurous about art is a good sign that a man is interested and thinking about the world and the future. Many of my friends are completely closed off or unaware of anything they didn’t hear in high school. And it’s a reflection of their attitudes about life. My parents were good people. But also unable to understand the larger world. Be well. Cheers! Shawn
Like Alex, i don't use the term Spiritual Jazz personally much, I usually just use it to describe Pharaoh Sanders, Alice Coltrane and at times John Coltrane to people. It's funny what you mention about people perceiving certain records/styles as challenging when you don't at all. I'm sure I've mentioned this before but my real entry point to jazz was John Zorn, who led me to Ornette Coleman many many years ago. So challenging for me starts at a whole 'nother tier than people who would come into jazz through say Miles Davis, in fact I don't find many records challenging these days in the sense that I'm having a hard time listening to it, but more challenging in the way that it makes me pay attention more, if that makes sense. Tony Scott is an artist I need to add more records off to my collection. That Tom Skinner one seemed like it went under the radar for a lot of people. I think technically he's called it an EP, or maybe the label did since i think it clocked in under around 30mins but it's so good. So musical and free, but not out there at all.
Hi Thijs! Hope you are well. Yea, i hear you about this moniker, Spiritual Jazz - it really doesn't tell us anything and I've tried to shy away from using it. However, as you can see, i fall back into using it. That's a good starting point, John Zorn. And i thinks it's important where your jumping off point begins. It's also the reason so many people with a "classic rock" background struggle with avant-garde music. People look for those guild-post in music and when they don't hear anything that feels comfortable, they run in the other direction. I think you are right about the Tom Skinner; he called it an EP. Although, i have to say, it feels like a complete musical statement. Americans are challenge by the idea of the EP - it wasn't a format we saw very often. The particularly true after the rise of the CD age. Thank you for watch. Love your IG posts. You find some true interesting release. Well done! Cheers. Shawn.
Hey Rob. Thanks for watching. Sorry it took me a few days to respond. Busy week. I think Jazz artist like Sun Ra and Sanders are a good way to get introduced into the jazz genre. They are much more accessible than their reputations would allow. Cheers! Thanks. Shawn
Like most my start in this kind of jazz started with John Coltrane and I branched out from there. Pharoah Sanders, Alice Coltrane, Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, Sun Ra, etc. I tend to like the quite skronky out there stuff. You're dead right. I'd prefer to have a strong feeling towards something regardless if I like it or not, than to just hear a whole lotta beige. I'm not a fan of what I would call polite jazz. Good to see you back on the tube. Cheers..Ben
Hey Ben. Hope you are well. I sure we have similar tastes when it comes to jazz music. I don’t really want pleasant background music. I want to be challenged and even made uncomfortable by music and art. I think art should do those things. All of the musicians you mentioned are exactly in league with my thoughts. I’ve also found that being in Detroit is good for soul and jazz music. With a large African American population in Detroit, albums by those artists often turn up in bins. As you know, back in the 40-50-60 and even into the 70s, jazz, funk and soul was marketed specifically to a black audience. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t cross over. But you get the point. There is actually a very interesting book written on the music industry’s open racism about marketing. It was done to maximize profit. Getting larger advertising revenue by segmenting these markets. Interesting stuff. Profit was maximized but they alienated people from each other. “Urban” music and “suburban” music became code for black and white. Anyway, sorry for the long message. Be well. Cheers! Shawn.
Little by little, Sanders has taken more and more space in my collection. There is a really good reissue for his very difficult to find album, Pharaoh. It’s a box set w/ a bonus live album that’s actually really good. It’s next on my buy list. Normally, I prefer an original but an OG of the Pharoah album is a bit above my pay grade. Lol. But that album may be a good introduction. Knowing your music tastes a little bit, i think Sanders would be an interesting discovery for you. Sorry for the delay in responding. Work is keeping me busy this week. Be well. Shawn
'spiritual jazz' is one of those terms i don't use personally but i understand it can help in the discussion/description of music which is generally a very difficult thing to do in the first place. village of the pharaohs is probably my favorite of his since he plays the soprano on most of the tracks.
I see exactly what you are saying about this term. And I always struggle with putting music in a certain “box” or category. Particularly, when the term is as meaningless as “Spiritual Jazz” or New Age. But then I fall into the trap when discussing music. (In some ways, I find all music has a certain spiritual dimension for me, but that’s a deeper discussion. Lol). I’ve heard Village of Pharaohs and indeed it’s excellent. But I think my next album will be the box set of Pharaoh. I’ve been delaying and delayed that purchase because there is alway a competition for my budget dollars. Btw- at the top of that list is the Baptism set by Laibach. May I’ll get it this weekend. Anyway…Thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
Hey, Philippe. Hope you are having a great week. I’ve been so busy. Sorry for the delay. It was fun talking about jazz for a bit. Not something I do very often. Last Sunday, I met a few collector’s who are deeply into the genre. It’s was an education just listening to their conversation. Thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
Shawn, either I have been missing your videos or you have been quiet. Nice discussion on spiritual music though you did use the word challenging lol. Not my usual type of jazz but I have a few of these
Hi Steve. Hope you are doing well. Looks like you are getting acclimated into your new environment. I haven’t been able to keep up the pace of my videos these last few months. Work has me jumping. I’m not really big into jazz, per se. But I really enjoy the left of center jazz. Particularly, from the early 70s. So i come to jazz in a different way than most; reading about Sun Ra in rock magazines. More traditional jazz seems like music my father would have enjoyed. Lol. Be well. Shawn
I know what you're saying about the tone poet reissues and bop/post bop stuff, I've kind of have my fill too. Do love all the Lee Morgan stuff however, and several other classics.
I had the beginnings of a nice collection of Music Matters reissues. But I just wasn’t into the bop/hard bop sub-genre. I wanted something a bit more difficult? I’m not sure how to say it. I want to be challenged by the music. If it’s too easy then I lose interest quickly. Sorry for the delay. It’s a busy week. Be well. Shawn.
Great video. I highly recommend the last album Pharoah Sanders made, ‘Promises’, with UK producer Floating Points and The London Symphonic Orchestra (2021). It’s a masterpiece!
Thanks for the recommendation. And it’s interesting you should mention this collaboration between Sanders and Floating Points. Part of the problem for me, was that I never thought Floating Points was really that good. Not bad, mind you. And the collaboration feels more like a FP album than a Pharoah Sanders record. You know what I mean? It’s very likable record; perhaps a little too easy, if you know what I mean. I had originally bought the record when it came out and traded it onto my local. Now…having said all of that, I was at a friends house a few weeks ago and they had music on in the background that sounded really good. I was grooving to the music and having some a bit of wine, when I asked what music they were playing; well…it was a Sander’s Floating Point album. Lol. So I need to give the record another chance. With you mentioning it, I will listen again this weekend. Maybe I’ll be getting another copy of the record. Sometimes you just don’t hear an album immediately and it takes hearing the music in a different context. If that makes any sense. Btw, I really enjoy your videos. Really well done and thoughtful. Cheers! Shawn.
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 oh that makes perfect sense and has happened to me as well, getting to re-appreciate an album or songs from an album that I skipped but are now favourites. It’s part of what makes this hobby a fun hobby 👍🏻
Thanks so much for watching. Haven’t done a jazz video in a while. And I’ve been trying to expand my collection in this area. Little by little, as they say. Cheers! Shawn
Classics now in my opinion. Journey in Satchidinanda was very much the gateway for me. Never thought spiritual jazz could be that beautiful. It felt like its own world. I've since gone heavy into that sound and will grab anything that hits even spiritual aspects. Black Unity Trio certainly not as easy a listen but is dedicated to so much of the same aspects. Keep the good stuff coming Shawn!
Great showing Shawn. I’ll admit that I need more Don Cherry and Alice Coltrane in my collection. Such a great music. And it makes a perfect sense why that so challenging music is not very challanging for you. 😉👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hey Mariusz. Good to hear from you. Well I’m probably guilty of having some more obscure musical tastes. Lol. But I know you have a taste for the more complex and interesting when it comes to art. Actually, I think that’s a healthy place to be for an adult. Being adventurous about art is a good sign that a man is interested and thinking about the world and the future. Many of my friends are completely closed off or unaware of anything they didn’t hear in high school. And it’s a reflection of their attitudes about life. My parents were good people. But also unable to understand the larger world. Be well. Cheers! Shawn
Like Alex, i don't use the term Spiritual Jazz personally much, I usually just use it to describe Pharaoh Sanders, Alice Coltrane and at times John Coltrane to people. It's funny what you mention about people perceiving certain records/styles as challenging when you don't at all. I'm sure I've mentioned this before but my real entry point to jazz was John Zorn, who led me to Ornette Coleman many many years ago. So challenging for me starts at a whole 'nother tier than people who would come into jazz through say Miles Davis, in fact I don't find many records challenging these days in the sense that I'm having a hard time listening to it, but more challenging in the way that it makes me pay attention more, if that makes sense. Tony Scott is an artist I need to add more records off to my collection. That Tom Skinner one seemed like it went under the radar for a lot of people. I think technically he's called it an EP, or maybe the label did since i think it clocked in under around 30mins but it's so good. So musical and free, but not out there at all.
Hi Thijs! Hope you are well. Yea, i hear you about this moniker, Spiritual Jazz - it really doesn't tell us anything and I've tried to shy away from using it. However, as you can see, i fall back into using it. That's a good starting point, John Zorn. And i thinks it's important where your jumping off point begins. It's also the reason so many people with a "classic rock" background struggle with avant-garde music. People look for those guild-post in music and when they don't hear anything that feels comfortable, they run in the other direction. I think you are right about the Tom Skinner; he called it an EP. Although, i have to say, it feels like a complete musical statement. Americans are challenge by the idea of the EP - it wasn't a format we saw very often. The particularly true after the rise of the CD age. Thank you for watch. Love your IG posts. You find some true interesting release. Well done! Cheers. Shawn.
Your appreciation and knowledge of all things jazz that you share with us is always appreciated S~
Rob/Boston
Hey Rob. Thanks for watching. Sorry it took me a few days to respond. Busy week. I think Jazz artist like Sun Ra and Sanders are a good way to get introduced into the jazz genre. They are much more accessible than their reputations would allow. Cheers! Thanks. Shawn
Like most my start in this kind of jazz started with John Coltrane and I branched out from there. Pharoah Sanders, Alice Coltrane, Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, Sun Ra, etc. I tend to like the quite skronky out there stuff. You're dead right. I'd prefer to have a strong feeling towards something regardless if I like it or not, than to just hear a whole lotta beige. I'm not a fan of what I would call polite jazz. Good to see you back on the tube. Cheers..Ben
Hey Ben. Hope you are well. I sure we have similar tastes when it comes to jazz music. I don’t really want pleasant background music. I want to be challenged and even made uncomfortable by music and art. I think art should do those things. All of the musicians you mentioned are exactly in league with my thoughts. I’ve also found that being in Detroit is good for soul and jazz music. With a large African American population in Detroit, albums by those artists often turn up in bins. As you know, back in the 40-50-60 and even into the 70s, jazz, funk and soul was marketed specifically to a black audience. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t cross over. But you get the point. There is actually a very interesting book written on the music industry’s open racism about marketing. It was done to maximize profit. Getting larger advertising revenue by segmenting these markets. Interesting stuff. Profit was maximized but they alienated people from each other. “Urban” music and “suburban” music became code for black and white. Anyway, sorry for the long message. Be well. Cheers! Shawn.
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 Whats the book called?
I have zero Pharaoh Sanders. I need to change that. Interesting video.
Little by little, Sanders has taken more and more space in my collection. There is a really good reissue for his very difficult to find album, Pharaoh. It’s a box set w/ a bonus live album that’s actually really good. It’s next on my buy list. Normally, I prefer an original but an OG of the Pharoah album is a bit above my pay grade. Lol. But that album may be a good introduction. Knowing your music tastes a little bit, i think Sanders would be an interesting discovery for you. Sorry for the delay in responding. Work is keeping me busy this week. Be well. Shawn
'spiritual jazz' is one of those terms i don't use personally but i understand it can help in the discussion/description of music which is generally a very difficult thing to do in the first place. village of the pharaohs is probably my favorite of his since he plays the soprano on most of the tracks.
I see exactly what you are saying about this term. And I always struggle with putting music in a certain “box” or category. Particularly, when the term is as meaningless as “Spiritual Jazz” or New Age. But then I fall into the trap when discussing music. (In some ways, I find all music has a certain spiritual dimension for me, but that’s a deeper discussion. Lol). I’ve heard Village of Pharaohs and indeed it’s excellent. But I think my next album will be the box set of Pharaoh. I’ve been delaying and delayed that purchase because there is alway a competition for my budget dollars. Btw- at the top of that list is the Baptism set by Laibach. May I’ll get it this weekend. Anyway…Thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
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Hey, Philippe. Hope you are having a great week. I’ve been so busy. Sorry for the delay. It was fun talking about jazz for a bit. Not something I do very often. Last Sunday, I met a few collector’s who are deeply into the genre. It’s was an education just listening to their conversation. Thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
Shawn, either I have been missing your videos or you have been quiet. Nice discussion on spiritual music though you did use the word challenging lol. Not my usual type of jazz but I have a few of these
Hi Steve. Hope you are doing well. Looks like you are getting acclimated into your new environment. I haven’t been able to keep up the pace of my videos these last few months. Work has me jumping. I’m not really big into jazz, per se. But I really enjoy the left of center jazz. Particularly, from the early 70s. So i come to jazz in a different way than most; reading about Sun Ra in rock magazines. More traditional jazz seems like music my father would have enjoyed. Lol. Be well. Shawn
I know what you're saying about the tone poet reissues and bop/post bop stuff, I've kind of have my fill too. Do love all the Lee Morgan stuff however, and several other classics.
I had the beginnings of a nice collection of Music Matters reissues. But I just wasn’t into the bop/hard bop sub-genre. I wanted something a bit more difficult? I’m not sure how to say it. I want to be challenged by the music. If it’s too easy then I lose interest quickly. Sorry for the delay. It’s a busy week. Be well. Shawn.
Great video. I highly recommend the last album Pharoah Sanders made, ‘Promises’, with UK producer Floating Points and The London Symphonic Orchestra (2021). It’s a masterpiece!
Thanks for the recommendation. And it’s interesting you should mention this collaboration between Sanders and Floating Points. Part of the problem for me, was that I never thought Floating Points was really that good. Not bad, mind you. And the collaboration feels more like a FP album than a Pharoah Sanders record. You know what I mean? It’s very likable record; perhaps a little too easy, if you know what I mean. I had originally bought the record when it came out and traded it onto my local. Now…having said all of that, I was at a friends house a few weeks ago and they had music on in the background that sounded really good. I was grooving to the music and having some a bit of wine, when I asked what music they were playing; well…it was a Sander’s Floating Point album. Lol. So I need to give the record another chance. With you mentioning it, I will listen again this weekend. Maybe I’ll be getting another copy of the record. Sometimes you just don’t hear an album immediately and it takes hearing the music in a different context. If that makes any sense. Btw, I really enjoy your videos. Really well done and thoughtful. Cheers! Shawn.
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 oh that makes perfect sense and has happened to me as well, getting to re-appreciate an album or songs from an album that I skipped but are now favourites. It’s part of what makes this hobby a fun hobby 👍🏻
Great video! Cool records.
Thanks for sharing. Have a wonderful one
Thanks so much for watching. Haven’t done a jazz video in a while. And I’ve been trying to expand my collection in this area. Little by little, as they say. Cheers! Shawn