Saw 'em live on this tour, one of the best shows I ever saw. All the songs were new to us, and Open Up and Bleed was just shattering. Them boys had heart.
That's so cool. We really don't have much video/recordings or even photos. I suppose these weren't big priorities at the time. lol. James Williamson did do a project were he played a lot of those stray tracks with different vocalist. It's ok but lacking the fire we want. It's a shame and Iggy and him wouldn't try to revisit those songs while it's still possible.
I’m 58 and from the Detroit area, I moved away to NYC in 1998, but I’ve always been a Stooges fan. I remember I was the envy of a few work colleagues in NYC for having seen Iggy multiple times as they were going to see the reformed Stooges and had never seen him live before.
I actually only saw Iggy once. For one reason or another, I missed my chance to see the reunion tour. Which is really a shame. It's always cool going to another city and people will immediately ask about the Stooges or the MC5. Nice that Detroit has a great legacy of music. Thanks for watching. Shawn
@@Semprini537 I agree with that; it’s a wild sonic adventure. And the band was hot. It’s really the record that you would have expected with the producer of the first album, John Cale. I think the band was just extremely confident at this point. With very little concern about the commercial outcome of the record. Thanks for watching. Shawn
@@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd Three brilliant tracks. I just listened to Johanna today. There’s a great video of the reunion Stooges doing Open Up and Bleed. Amazing performance.
Great topic. BOMP! collected most of this stuff on their Iguana Chronicles series back in the 1990s. "Wild Love" (the CD and the song) is one of my faves.
I’m not familiar with that series. I’ll have to check it out. Bomp was a great label. And they really found their own niche at the end of the seventies. Even bands like 20/20 and the Zeroes were a great mix of punk, new wave and power pop. Thank you for watching. Shawn
Thanks for the California shout out at the end. Very appreciated. Enjoyable video, going to listen to it now. "I Got A Right" blew me away when I first heard it around 1979-80 (somehow I got it on a single ... long since lost/stolen) and, you're right, my Iggyphile friends would always be turning me on to some lost track over the years.
Our heart are all with California. I hope the long-term our country will act collectively to make sure all the people and businesses are made whole. This is a wealthy country and those resource should be used so that people aren't destroy by terrible fire in the long-term. "I Got A Right" would be a great single to have today. I'm on the hunt for one myself. I'd encourage you to listen to Heavy Liquid on TH-cam. It really holds together as an album. Hey, thank you for watch. The best of luck to you. Shawn
@@blahblahoink Thanks. I appreciate the feedback and you watching. This is an interesting area in the bands history and neither Iggy or James Williamson have made any significant effort to organize these tracks in a meaningful way.
Hey...thanks for watching. There’s a nice live release called Electric Circus that highlight those gigs about as good as we're going to get. Unfortunately, it's one of those bootleg recordinga that is pretty rough. But if we use our imaginations, we get some idea how a twin guitar line-up would have sounded. That should be a fun video to do. Cheer! Shawn
The stooges are the best band ever. Fun house is my desert island record. I could listen to it for ever. My band was doing a west coast tour and la weekly called us a garage band birthed from the anals of iggy pop and the stooges. It was one of my most proud moments.
That’s a great comparison and a compliment for you and the band. Makes me glad that our boys in the Stooges stuck to their guns and never compromised their sound and showmanship. It wasn’t easy and they paid a huge price at the time. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!
I certainly understand that feeling. The Stooges music speaks directly to the anger and frustration many young people feel. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
The Williamson era is a wonderful beast but, I must admit, that I prefer the original band. Having said that, adding James to the mix probably save the Stooges from another album. Thanks for watching and commenting. Shawn
Thanks for these thoughts. I've always loved the songs "I Got a right" and "Scene of The Crime" and also wondered what a fourth Stooges album could have been. There's also the "Georgia Peaches" live in Atlanta 1973 set - glimpses of what a piano-heavy Stooges album might have been like. Anyway- great post and hail the Stooges.
Georgia Peaches is an excellent live performance. And it’s true, they had tried to expand their sound. Very different than the Electric Circus shows that were only a few months later at the end of the year. We will never know, but it would have been interesting to hear what the 4th album would have sounded like had the band continued. Thanks for watching. Shawn
I’ve always found this late period of the Stooges career interesting and full of possibilities about what could have happened. I don’t think the band ever had any real commercial potential but they were ahead of their time. Focused on the music and power of performance. Cheers!
The Stooges are still one of my favorite bands of all time. Iggy made Rock n Roll dangerous again. It still blows my mind that the Doors briefly considered him as a replacement for Jim after his death in 71.
@@gregsmith7949 hey Greg. Interested what you said about the Doors. Apparently, there are demos (or whatever you would call them) of Iggy, Ray Manzarek and a band working together on material. This was after the doors were already broken up. It’s documented in the book Open Up and Bleed. I would be fascinated to hear what those tapes sound like. Thank you for watching. Cheers! Shawn
Hey, a fellow member of the D community! Very cool. I use to live in Hamtramck when i was attending WSU in the early 90s. We saw many, many shows at all those small local bars the Hamtramck was known for. Detroit has such a rich history of music and the Stooges and the MC5 are a huge part of that legacy. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
KO is an interesting listen if you haven't had the chance to hear it. It's almost like performance art. The band (or should i say Iggy) confronting a very hostile audience on their very last performance. Rough audio but a very interesting listening experience. The perfect ending for the band? maybe,
Ye@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084yes ended the Stooges who got beaten by the bikers and thus their Raw Power mojo was broken on top of being $broke and Scag addicted. Iggy signed himself in to a mental hospital before his Bowie Berlin Lou Reed exile thing.
That’s true. Bowie rescued Iggy from poverty on a number of occasions. In exchange, Bowie felt inspired by Iggy’s creativity and rawness. Ziggy = Iggy. Bowie continued helping Iggy throughout the 70-80.
Ive got the Heavy Liquid with another cover here in Sweden. Do people know Iggy Pop get the Polar price with a lot of money. Iggy Pop is a real legend.....
That’s interesting. I’m curious about that alternative sleeve. Very cool. There’s also a 4 CD box set that greatly expands on the material. Mostly it’s instrumental jams or repeats of the same material. But there is some interesting music included. Cheers
I love how the three albums are completely different, yet definitely are Stooges records. If only one had been released, their influence would still be monumental. Great topic. I’m a huge fan of ‘lost’ albums.
@@markboyd9275 Hey Mark. I would absolutely agree that one of the interesting aspects of the band were their evolution as artists and musicians. Particularly from the first two albums. Wow. What a jump. The first record is so brilliantly basic (and produced by John Cale) and then they intentionally jump into free-jazz and avant-garde influences. It’s just fascinating to hear the comparison. If you’re interested, check out Heavy Liquid digitally. You’ll be surprised at how well it hangs together. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Shawn.
@ my first band(in high school) used to cover “I Got a Right”. We thought we were so dangerous but we probably came across as a wimpier Feelies doing this kind of material 😂
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 it's hard to explain the first album if not intentionally outre and avant-garde. To me, FunHouse is more like an evolution from the first album's droning minimalism towards a different avant-garde funk/free-jazz idiom.
@ i wouldn’t disagree with your description. The first two are certainly of a piece together. And as much as I love Raw Power, it’s the original band that I most embrace. James Williamson was a great addition and I don’t think that the album would have happened without Williamson. But guitarist Ron Asheton was a complete original. Have you seen the reunion shows at Coachella in 2003? Ron is just a monster. He proves what a unique beast he was. Without him, the Stooges never would have been the important band they are today. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Cheers! Shawn.
The Heavy Liquid album is a real revelation if the Stooges are important to you. High recommend. If the record had been completed, it may have been considered their masterpiece. Thanks for watching.
I’ve thought the same thing many times. It’s such an obvious thing to do. They could have really given us the album so many have hoped for. James did revisit these stray songs on his own but it’s just not the record we want. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!
I got into the Stooges in the mid 80s when I was a teen. I remember, after acquiring the 3 official albums, and Metallica KO(for dirt cheap, at the time) being bewildered by all the import/bootleg releases that were out there. I have a CD titled “Open Up and Bleed: The Great Lost Stooges Album?” that came out in ‘95 on Bomp, as part of The Iguana Chronicles. It’s a pretty good collection. The recordings are raw as hell but add a charm to the songs. But I’d be interested in finding that Heavy Liquid LP to compare and contrast.
Bomp really did a service to Stooges fans in the 70/80/90. And in many ways Easy Action has released similar historically important material in the 2000s. Heavy Liquid was originally a 4 CD box set. It’s an interesting listen if you’re a hardcore fan. Although, most people won’t want to hear repeated tracks over and over. They have also released live material by the Sonic's Rendezvous Band; the band the featured a post-stooges Scott Asheton on drums. Sonic’s Rendezvous also featured Fred Sonic Smith of the MC5 on guitar. Have you heard of them? Well worth your time if you haven’t had the chance yet. Thanks for watching. Shawn.
Hi, love your enthusiasm. How I wish Kill City was the start and not the end. I loved Kill City because it was soulful , yet still impactful, for me it was more a continuation and natural progression of Fun House, which incorporated elements of free jazz and blues. The Birthday Party were listening as were Afghan Whigs. Kill City has always felt like a missed opportunity, unfinished businesses, the main protagonists are still around, with some care, could it be revisited without being corny and irrelevant?
That’s really interesting. I found the album pretty young. My parents were not too happy about the music I liked at the time. And with Kill City, I had to sneak that album into house at the time. Lol. I loved the lifestyle desperation that I hear in the lyrics and the sleazy guitar groove of Williamson. I’m not sure why they don’t revisit the album. Would be a great treat for fans. Actually, I wish Iggy and James would reconsider many of these stray songs for an album. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
The first one & Funhouse are as good as it gets imho. I love Raw Power, but I like Ron on guitar more than James. Say whatever you like about Bowie, but his cover of China Girl set up Iggy for life in the 80's when he was down and out...again. I don't mind Kill City, but you can really tell the drugs had taken over big time. That Bomp comp has a lot of great stuff on it. I have a great cd called Penetration which puts together a lot of those orphan songs. That's confusing. Wasn't there a cd box called Heavy Liquid that was the pre-cursor to the vinyl 50th Anniversary box...I think?!? Ron & James on geetar, now you're talkin', Nice wrap up 👍
Without Bowie life would have been very different for our man Iggy. Kill City is a strange little record. But over time it’s really become special for me. You can feel the desperation and anger in the music. Heavy Liquid was definitely a CD box set before the two LP version was released. The box was interesting but somewhat difficult to get through with so many duplicate of the same song. The vinyl cuts all the excess and feels like a full album. An essential part of a Stooges collection imo. Thanks, Ben. Cheers!
Never heard great recordings of any of these songs, they're all room demos, they're unfinished lyrically and musically, and that's why they only ever trickled out semi-officially. Some are amazing like Sick of you, all are interesting for showing various stages of song writing, but not fair to compare them to finished releases or to suggest they could have been a forth album in this form.
I’m sorry to disagree but I think there is enough here to give us a glimpse of what a 4th Stooges album would have sounded like. There was indeed talk of another album; and while these are obviously demos (as I stated) most are close enough to show the direction of the band. Perhaps it’s a matter of expectation; it’s not difficult for me to see my way through. In the same way that The Beach Boys never completed the Smile album. We still have enough to imagine what a Smile album would have sounded like. The same is true here. And it would be a shame to dismiss what we have as nothing more than incomplete demos. But it’s all good. We all hear the music differently. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Cheers! Shawn
@ imo, not a good comparison; Smiley Smile is most of an unreleased album: immaculately conceived, rehearsed, recorded, produced and arranged songs on their own. The Stooges tracks aren't even at the level of the "lost" Velvet Underground MGM record (fully realized/recorded tracks that didn't find release until the '80s). You can tell the Stooges tracks are raw songwriting demos because the lyrics/vocals are often halfway formed, the playing is relatively sloppy and uneven, the recordings are rough and unedited, etc. If you listen to Fun House/RawPower demos, Iggy typically lays down throw-away lyrics that take on way more depth/ meaning on finished songs. These tracks are mostly like listening to those throw away lyrics and unfinished song structures.
Tight Pants was one of those songs that always kept me interested in the band. Raw and aggressive but also a great rock track that was catchy and fun to have blasting aways in the car. I'm curious what label your 12' is on. Appreciate you watching. Shawn.
Stooges are terrific. Frustrating but terrific. I like Lps , I like cd's, I like mp3's, love wax cylinders BUT there is no such thing as a "vinyl community". Unless you count folk who sniff fresh vinyl or make plant pots. Not that making plant is a bad thing, Im all in favour of recycling but a community it does not make. The word you are looking for is 'audience' no vinyly prefix. Your pedantically etc.
I agree. Some how they sucked the life out of the record. It’s a shame. But I still love the album. You can really get a picture of the desperation of Iggy’s drug fueled lifestyle. Hey, thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
@ i haven’t heard the remaster. I only know the original version of the record. The overall sound is “dull”. Oddly, I’m so used to this lackluster mastering that I’ve learned to enjoy its charm. But I’ll grab a copy of the more remaster to hear the comparison.
Talking about one of your fave topics and getting that much love, awesomeness, Shawn, congrats!
Hey Stunty. I appreciate that. It was a real surprise to wake up to all these additional views. I got to admit, it’s kinda fun!
Johana is such an amaizing song
Track song and maybe the hightlight of the Kill City album. Time to put that album on the turntable when i get home. Cheers! Shawn
Saw 'em live on this tour, one of the best shows I ever saw. All the songs were new to us, and Open Up and Bleed was just shattering. Them boys had heart.
That's so cool. We really don't have much video/recordings or even photos. I suppose these weren't big priorities at the time. lol. James Williamson did do a project were he played a lot of those stray tracks with different vocalist. It's ok but lacking the fire we want. It's a shame and Iggy and him wouldn't try to revisit those songs while it's still possible.
I’m 58 and from the Detroit area, I moved away to NYC in 1998, but I’ve always been a Stooges fan. I remember I was the envy of a few work colleagues in NYC for having seen Iggy multiple times as they were going to see the reformed Stooges and had never seen him live before.
I actually only saw Iggy once. For one reason or another, I missed my chance to see the reunion tour. Which is really a shame. It's always cool going to another city and people will immediately ask about the Stooges or the MC5. Nice that Detroit has a great legacy of music. Thanks for watching. Shawn
@ I have been living in Brazil since 2012 and Iggy is big down here too long with other Detroit bands.
FUNHOUSE is perfection, cover is pure art,music is cosmic
@@Semprini537 I agree with that; it’s a wild sonic adventure. And the band was hot. It’s really the record that you would have expected with the producer of the first album, John Cale. I think the band was just extremely confident at this point. With very little concern about the commercial outcome of the record. Thanks for watching. Shawn
Johanna, I'm Sick Of You and Open Up And Bleed are my all time favorites from that late 1973 and 1974 time-period of Iggy & The Stooges.
@@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd Three brilliant tracks. I just listened to Johanna today. There’s a great video of the reunion Stooges doing Open Up and Bleed. Amazing performance.
Nice! I never knew this!!! Oh my daughter is gonna be so stoked!!
Thank you!
That’s awesome. My son is a Stooge fan too. Passing the tradition to the next generation! Lol. Thanks for watching. Shawn
Great topic. BOMP! collected most of this stuff on their Iguana Chronicles series back in the 1990s. "Wild Love" (the CD and the song) is one of my faves.
I’m not familiar with that series. I’ll have to check it out. Bomp was a great label. And they really found their own niche at the end of the seventies. Even bands like 20/20 and the Zeroes were a great mix of punk, new wave and power pop. Thank you for watching. Shawn
Thanks for the California shout out at the end. Very appreciated. Enjoyable video, going to listen to it now. "I Got A Right" blew me away when I first heard it around 1979-80 (somehow I got it on a single ... long since lost/stolen) and, you're right, my Iggyphile friends would always be turning me on to some lost track over the years.
Our heart are all with California. I hope the long-term our country will act collectively to make sure all the people and businesses are made whole. This is a wealthy country and those resource should be used so that people aren't destroy by terrible fire in the long-term. "I Got A Right" would be a great single to have today. I'm on the hunt for one myself. I'd encourage you to listen to Heavy Liquid on TH-cam. It really holds together as an album. Hey, thank you for watch. The best of luck to you. Shawn
Interesting thanks!
@@blahblahoink Thanks. I appreciate the feedback and you watching. This is an interesting area in the bands history and neither Iggy or James Williamson have made any significant effort to organize these tracks in a meaningful way.
Thanks Shawn. I am looking forward to hear about the two guitar line-up of the later Stooges. - Chris
Hey...thanks for watching. There’s a nice live release called Electric Circus that highlight those gigs about as good as we're going to get. Unfortunately, it's one of those bootleg recordinga that is pretty rough. But if we use our imaginations, we get some idea how a twin guitar line-up would have sounded. That should be a fun video to do. Cheer! Shawn
The stooges are the best band ever. Fun house is my desert island record. I could listen to it for ever. My band was doing a west coast tour and la weekly called us a garage band birthed from the anals of iggy pop and the stooges. It was one of my most proud moments.
That’s a great comparison and a compliment for you and the band. Makes me glad that our boys in the Stooges stuck to their guns and never compromised their sound and showmanship. It wasn’t easy and they paid a huge price at the time. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!
Great video. I’m 22 and iggy or the stooges fuel the fire to my life
I certainly understand that feeling. The Stooges music speaks directly to the anger and frustration many young people feel. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
Me too! Williamson era all the way especially the hinted at direction. Almost AOR..but in a really good way.
The Williamson era is a wonderful beast but, I must admit, that I prefer the original band. Having said that, adding James to the mix probably save the Stooges from another album. Thanks for watching and commenting. Shawn
Thanks for these thoughts. I've always loved the songs "I Got a right" and "Scene of The Crime" and also wondered what a fourth Stooges album could have been. There's also the "Georgia Peaches" live in Atlanta 1973 set - glimpses of what a piano-heavy Stooges album might have been like. Anyway- great post and hail the Stooges.
Georgia Peaches is an excellent live performance. And it’s true, they had tried to expand their sound. Very different than the Electric Circus shows that were only a few months later at the end of the year. We will never know, but it would have been interesting to hear what the 4th album would have sounded like had the band continued. Thanks for watching. Shawn
Superb discussion.
I’ve always found this late period of the Stooges career interesting and full of possibilities about what could have happened. I don’t think the band ever had any real commercial potential but they were ahead of their time. Focused on the music and power of performance. Cheers!
The Stooges are still one of my favorite bands of all time. Iggy made Rock n Roll dangerous again. It still blows my mind that the Doors briefly considered him as a replacement for Jim after his death in 71.
@@gregsmith7949 hey Greg. Interested what you said about the Doors. Apparently, there are demos (or whatever you would call them) of Iggy, Ray Manzarek and a band working together on material. This was after the doors were already broken up. It’s documented in the book Open Up and Bleed. I would be fascinated to hear what those tapes sound like. Thank you for watching. Cheers! Shawn
This is a good video. I live in Detroit and go to Hamtramck for the Punk show down there.
Hey, a fellow member of the D community! Very cool. I use to live in Hamtramck when i was attending WSU in the early 90s. We saw many, many shows at all those small local bars the Hamtramck was known for. Detroit has such a rich history of music and the Stooges and the MC5 are a huge part of that legacy. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Talking about the open up and bleed and Metallic KO? 😊
KO is an interesting listen if you haven't had the chance to hear it. It's almost like performance art. The band (or should i say Iggy) confronting a very hostile audience on their very last performance. Rough audio but a very interesting listening experience. The perfect ending for the band? maybe,
Ye@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084yes ended the Stooges who got beaten by the bikers and thus their Raw Power mojo was broken on top of being $broke and Scag addicted. Iggy signed himself in to a mental hospital before his Bowie Berlin Lou Reed exile thing.
Bowie was a Good friend to Iggy. When Bowie did "China Girl", Iggy made a Pile of Money.
That’s true. Bowie rescued Iggy from poverty on a number of occasions. In exchange, Bowie felt inspired by Iggy’s creativity and rawness. Ziggy = Iggy. Bowie continued helping Iggy throughout the 70-80.
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 Bowie's version of "China Girl" is also Really Good.
Ive got the Heavy Liquid with another cover here in Sweden.
Do people know Iggy Pop get the Polar price with a lot of money.
Iggy Pop is a real legend.....
That’s interesting. I’m curious about that alternative sleeve. Very cool. There’s also a 4 CD box set that greatly expands on the material. Mostly it’s instrumental jams or repeats of the same material. But there is some interesting music included. Cheers
I love how the three albums are completely different, yet definitely are Stooges records. If only one had been released, their influence would still be monumental. Great topic. I’m a huge fan of ‘lost’ albums.
@@markboyd9275 Hey Mark. I would absolutely agree that one of the interesting aspects of the band were their evolution as artists and musicians. Particularly from the first two albums. Wow. What a jump. The first record is so brilliantly basic (and produced by John Cale) and then they intentionally jump into free-jazz and avant-garde influences. It’s just fascinating to hear the comparison. If you’re interested, check out Heavy Liquid digitally. You’ll be surprised at how well it hangs together. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Shawn.
@ my first band(in high school) used to cover “I Got a Right”. We thought we were so dangerous but we probably came across as a wimpier Feelies doing this kind of material 😂
@@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 it's hard to explain the first album if not intentionally outre and avant-garde. To me, FunHouse is more like an evolution from the first album's droning minimalism towards a different avant-garde funk/free-jazz idiom.
@ i wouldn’t disagree with your description. The first two are certainly of a piece together. And as much as I love Raw Power, it’s the original band that I most embrace. James Williamson was a great addition and I don’t think that the album would have happened without Williamson. But guitarist Ron Asheton was a complete original. Have you seen the reunion shows at Coachella in 2003? Ron is just a monster. He proves what a unique beast he was. Without him, the Stooges never would have been the important band they are today. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Cheers! Shawn.
Hell yeah👏🏽👏🏽🔥🔥🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
The Heavy Liquid album is a real revelation if the Stooges are important to you. High recommend. If the record had been completed, it may have been considered their masterpiece. Thanks for watching.
I thought it was ridiculous they didn't revisit any of that material on the reunion albums.
I’ve thought the same thing many times. It’s such an obvious thing to do. They could have really given us the album so many have hoped for. James did revisit these stray songs on his own but it’s just not the record we want. Thanks for sharing and watching. Cheers!
I got into the Stooges in the mid 80s when I was a teen. I remember, after acquiring the 3 official albums, and Metallica KO(for dirt cheap, at the time) being bewildered by all the import/bootleg releases that were out there.
I have a CD titled “Open Up and Bleed: The Great Lost Stooges Album?” that came out in ‘95 on Bomp, as part of The Iguana Chronicles. It’s a pretty good collection. The recordings are raw as hell but add a charm to the songs. But I’d be interested in finding that Heavy Liquid LP to compare and contrast.
Bomp really did a service to Stooges fans in the 70/80/90. And in many ways Easy Action has released similar historically important material in the 2000s. Heavy Liquid was originally a 4 CD box set. It’s an interesting listen if you’re a hardcore fan. Although, most people won’t want to hear repeated tracks over and over. They have also released live material by the Sonic's Rendezvous Band; the band the featured a post-stooges Scott Asheton on drums. Sonic’s Rendezvous also featured Fred Sonic Smith of the MC5 on guitar. Have you heard of them? Well worth your time if you haven’t had the chance yet. Thanks for watching. Shawn.
Hi, love your enthusiasm. How I wish Kill City was the start and not the end. I loved Kill City because it was soulful , yet still impactful, for me it was more a continuation and natural progression of Fun House, which incorporated elements of free jazz and blues. The Birthday Party were listening as were Afghan Whigs. Kill City has always felt like a missed opportunity, unfinished businesses, the main protagonists are still around, with some care, could it be revisited without being corny and irrelevant?
That’s really interesting. I found the album pretty young. My parents were not too happy about the music I liked at the time. And with Kill City, I had to sneak that album into house at the time. Lol. I loved the lifestyle desperation that I hear in the lyrics and the sleazy guitar groove of Williamson. I’m not sure why they don’t revisit the album. Would be a great treat for fans. Actually, I wish Iggy and James would reconsider many of these stray songs for an album. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
The first one & Funhouse are as good as it gets imho. I love Raw Power, but I like Ron on guitar more than James. Say whatever you like about Bowie, but his cover of China Girl set up Iggy for life in the 80's when he was down and out...again. I don't mind Kill City, but you can really tell the drugs had taken over big time. That Bomp comp has a lot of great stuff on it. I have a great cd called Penetration which puts together a lot of those orphan songs.
That's confusing. Wasn't there a cd box called Heavy Liquid that was the pre-cursor to the vinyl 50th Anniversary box...I think?!? Ron & James on geetar, now you're talkin', Nice wrap up 👍
Without Bowie life would have been very different for our man Iggy. Kill City is a strange little record. But over time it’s really become special for me. You can feel the desperation and anger in the music. Heavy Liquid was definitely a CD box set before the two LP version was released. The box was interesting but somewhat difficult to get through with so many duplicate of the same song. The vinyl cuts all the excess and feels like a full album. An essential part of a Stooges collection imo. Thanks, Ben. Cheers!
Never heard great recordings of any of these songs, they're all room demos, they're unfinished lyrically and musically, and that's why they only ever trickled out semi-officially. Some are amazing like Sick of you, all are interesting for showing various stages of song writing, but not fair to compare them to finished releases or to suggest they could have been a forth album in this form.
I’m sorry to disagree but I think there is enough here to give us a glimpse of what a 4th Stooges album would have sounded like. There was indeed talk of another album; and while these are obviously demos (as I stated) most are close enough to show the direction of the band. Perhaps it’s a matter of expectation; it’s not difficult for me to see my way through. In the same way that The Beach Boys never completed the Smile album. We still have enough to imagine what a Smile album would have sounded like. The same is true here. And it would be a shame to dismiss what we have as nothing more than incomplete demos. But it’s all good. We all hear the music differently. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Cheers! Shawn
@ imo, not a good comparison; Smiley Smile is most of an unreleased album: immaculately conceived, rehearsed, recorded, produced and arranged songs on their own. The Stooges tracks aren't even at the level of the "lost" Velvet Underground MGM record (fully realized/recorded tracks that didn't find release until the '80s). You can tell the Stooges tracks are raw songwriting demos because the lyrics/vocals are often halfway formed, the playing is relatively sloppy and uneven, the recordings are rough and unedited, etc. If you listen to Fun House/RawPower demos, Iggy typically lays down throw-away lyrics that take on way more depth/ meaning on finished songs. These tracks are mostly like listening to those throw away lyrics and unfinished song structures.
I have Tight Pants on 12” single! Could’ve been a hit.
Tight Pants was one of those songs that always kept me interested in the band. Raw and aggressive but also a great rock track that was catchy and fun to have blasting aways in the car. I'm curious what label your 12' is on. Appreciate you watching. Shawn.
Shake appeal?
Stooges are terrific. Frustrating but terrific. I like Lps , I like cd's, I like mp3's, love wax cylinders BUT there is no such thing as a "vinyl community". Unless you count folk who sniff fresh vinyl or make plant pots. Not that making plant is a bad thing, Im all in favour of recycling but a community it does not make. The word you are looking for is 'audience' no vinyly prefix. Your pedantically etc.
Lol. Well noted. Never heard of anyone collecting wax cylinders but I’m good with it. Appreciate your insight and your watching. Cheers! Shawn
Kill city is great material it’s just poorly produced
I agree. Some how they sucked the life out of the record. It’s a shame. But I still love the album. You can really get a picture of the desperation of Iggy’s drug fueled lifestyle. Hey, thanks for watching. Cheers! Shawn
Depends what version you got . The recent remaster sounded good to me
@ i haven’t heard the remaster. I only know the original version of the record. The overall sound is “dull”. Oddly, I’m so used to this lackluster mastering that I’ve learned to enjoy its charm. But I’ll grab a copy of the more remaster to hear the comparison.