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DualSense Calibration At Long Last
I’m going over the new software that allows calibration of the DualSense controller. It seems to eliminate most of the difficulties of getting a good replacement joystick. You now don’t have to match the old one that is being replaced. Also, I look at how it works when calibrating a couple of Hall effect joysticks.
Links: dualshock-tools.github.io
hardwaretester.com/gamepad
00:00 Intro
01:15 Controller Calibration walk-through
07:44 Hall Effect Joystick #1
09:37 Hall Effect Joystick #2
11:25 Using the DualShock Calibration GUI with Linux
11:57 Final Thoughts
Links: dualshock-tools.github.io
hardwaretester.com/gamepad
00:00 Intro
01:15 Controller Calibration walk-through
07:44 Hall Effect Joystick #1
09:37 Hall Effect Joystick #2
11:25 Using the DualShock Calibration GUI with Linux
11:57 Final Thoughts
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Do you think the calibration board for hall effect sticks is still worth installing now that this calibration method is available? I understand they interfere a bit with how the controller goes back together
It's up to you if you want to spend more money. I would try without them first and use the free tool instead. And if you feel like the calibration board is still needed then buy it and try.
No need for a calibration board with this software.
I have to know, does this works if the joystick have 1 backward magnet like the k-silver you bought before?
The magnet will have to be rotated. else the left and right will be reversed.
This is great people need to know they can do something about their controllers
Thank you very much. I’ve heard of the site, but wasn’t sure of it. Now that a reputable person has given it the go ahead, I’ll try it out.
I replaced the analogs months ago and couldn't calibrate them. This worked great! I have 8% errors, but it feels OK even in FPS games like Destiny 2.
Excellent!
Thank you very much! I followed your steps and changed very easily. Thank you very much once again.
Glad it helped!
Hi am I right in thinking don’t need to install pcb driver now when installing Hall effect
I really don't think so. There is a new V5 Hall Effect joystick that has improved many of the complaints people had with past hall effect joysticks. It even uses bigger magnets that are a different shape. Old versions used a rectangular magnet.
@syn80 where can one get those new ones?
@@theeron youtube keeps hiding my reply when I try telling you even though i didnt post a link. not sure how to tell you.
Only the channel owner can see hidden comments and manually approve them so you can see.
Thank you so much - I managed to replace both joysticks with hall effect ones, saved money and learned something new :)
Thanks for the video, this was my first time working on anything electronics related and my second try was a success!
Excellent!
I tried this for one of my controllers that has stick drift and everything seem to calibrate all right but the issue is it’ll be sitting at center and then just randomly jerk left at times or if you even barely touch it left it jerks all the way to the left. Or if you’re pushing straight up, it’ll jerk to the left as well. Is it just a bad joystick that needs to be replaced? Thank you!
Sounds like a bad joystick, or really the potentiometer on the joystick is going bad.
What would cause the up/down motion on the stick not work? I got the new joystick in and when I tested it, I can move it left and right, but there’s no up down motion registering on the program. Thank you!
NVM! Turns out I am terrible at soldering! (No surprise, first time). Anyways, i got the new stick in, used that new calibration website from your other video and everything works great! Thanks for all the help!!
Glad it helped.
Can this fix strick drift??
Possibly depending on how worn out the stock joysticks are. This is most useful for those who have hall effect joysticks.
I hope Sony don't protect the controllers with a firmware update, although that would be logical on their part. That would hit their controller sales hard.
The right thing for Sony to do is give us the ability to do this through a PS5 firmware update. Xbox added a similar calibration tool in their firmware, but I don't think it works as well as this.
Yes that would be the stand up thing for Sony to do.
THANK YOU! I just replaced my sticks on one controller and was looking to do Hall effects for the rest of my controllers this is going to help so much
Right, im doing the same - save lot of time for calibration with that project.
dualsense edge not supporter :C
I heard that there might be a correlation between users experiencing stick drift with Hall effect joysticks and the controller's speaker (Dualsense specifically). I heard that this issue primarily affects K-Silver Hall sticks, but the yellow ones may also exhibit the same problem.
I don't see how. It takes a pretty good magnetic field to affect the output of the sensor.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I'm not entirely sure myself. Hypr (those, custom controller guys) apparently removes the speaker because, the magnet apparently throws off the calibration. (Maybe it was due to the old pin pricking solution for the calibration)
You are a champion and I hope every cup of coffee you drink in the future is perfect
Still haven't been able to find the correct seal for it though.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Just knowing it's a seal is enough for me for now, I'll try a few and let you know if I find the magic one
amazing, very informative video, thank you, this fixed the right drift drift I was getting. Thank you so much
Glad it helped
Thank you Sir for sharing and your detailed explanation! To anyone that can help make sure to support the creator of the tool! Also, I can confirm it fixed my light drift without having to replace the right stick. Wanted to give this a try before doing the replacement and to my surprise it did fix it! Not 100% but 95% of the drift its gone, also the range was massively improved, went from 13.1/13.8 to 5.3/7.3 🥳 Subbed!!
Much appreciated!
After calibration my stick got so stiff. Why? My aim is off after that. Anything to reset or go back to default please!
It has zero effect on the spring inside each joystick. That spring is there so the joystick snaps back to the center when you let go of it.
If the USB-C cable tends to disconnect with the controller depending how it’s positioned, would it be safer to just calibrate using Bluetooth pairing to PC?
I haven't tried Bluetooth so I don't know how well it works. But if the USB connector on the controller is going bad I think it would be risky to try and do a calibration. I would try a couple of temporary calibrations by way of Bluetooth and see how they go.
Strange how every time I make a comment on your videos it gets deleted for no reason.
I've had a few people say that. I'm not sure why it happens.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I think youtube falsely detecting comments as spam or advertisements. you should be able to see the comments on your youtube dashboard to confirm they are or are not.
Is there a way I can contact you that isn't through TH-cam? I have some really useful information that you could possibly share through your videos. TH-cam likes to hide some of my comments making it hard to communicate directly with you.
@metalplasticelectronics354
@@syn80 mike@mlplel.com should work.
- It was helpful, Thank you Sir 👍🏻🔝💯'
Glad to hear that
Hello, I bought a new dualsense 5 controller, I pulled the analogs towards me, it seemed to work, I clicked back, now I hear a crackling sound when using the analogs. Help pls
It kind of sounds like something broke on the joystick. Does the one making the noise feel any different?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 No, there is no difference in analogs, they are fine, only sound is heard.
Maybe a loose piece of plastic caught in the joystick. Have you tried holding the controller upside down and moving the joystick around? I would think it something was broken it would feel different.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I have never dropped the remote. I even shook the remote to see if there were any broken parts. I don't hear any sound, so I don't think it's broken.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I blew it, I didn't turn it upside down, I'll try to turn it upside down when I get home
The reason your stick was registering the opposite values is due to a recent quality control issue at K-Silver. I received a batch of 20 where the magnet had been installed incorrectly during manufacture. The magnet was reversed and this inverted left/right. It's fixable by removing the magnet, rotating it 180° and replacing it. Oops: i hadn't watched the whole video before posting this 😅
Are the magnet holders different colors in the batch you received?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 yes exactly, can't remember which way round the colours were but one was white and the other was blue.
Okay, same as the ones I got then. Thanks.
in FPS games the mechanical limit issue is very bad for aiming
I have the same problem. My aim is so off:/
What flux do you use ? Please
Amtech NC-559-v2-tf
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thank you
does it work with the ps4 controller
Yes, it originally was a 3rd party tool for users of that controller. Then they were able get it working for the Dualsense.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I F* LOVE YOU.
No problem
Thanks man I almost gave up searching for a solution for my stick drift.
YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE ANALOG STICK FIRST
True, it's not going to make miracles happen with a worn out potentiometer joystick.
this is awesome managed to get my average error to 3% on old controller i will definitely order some hall effects since i dont need to tinker with them physically just software thank you man
if you disconnect the battery or the dualsense runs out of battery, it will get back to stock calibration, so its better to leave the hall joystick close to the center then calibrate
@@Heatlink1 no it doesn't for me its stays u have to activate the permanent write option i dont know if u even watched the video my guy ?
THANKSSSSSSSSSSS
Awesome! Just waiting for the new pump to arrive!
Really useful, thanks! Tried it on my controller with a newly replaced potentiometer; well centred with nice circularity after a "permanent" calibration. However, the settings were all over the place after a little while, drifting appeared again and the stick was not centred anymore. Done a few times but still the same problem. Then I performed a controller reset right after the calibration, things seem to hold up so far. Will see.
Is it just one axis that is acting up? It does sound like a strange problem.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 One axis only indeed, the one axis that has a replaced potentiometer. However, after a few more days of observation, the problem seems not related to the calibration. It was off centred again after a few days regardless of a reset or not. Problem seems related to the potentiometer itself. Replaced with another one and seems fine now.
This is a game changer! Would like to see a future addition for calibration of the Scuf Envision Pro. Mine is drifting already.
You mentioned there was input delay difference between Hall Effect sticks and potentiometer sticks? Is that proven? I’m a purely competitive FPS gamer, so speed and accuracy is the most important to me.
The Hall effect sensors are going to have some delay. I measured about 2 to 3 milliseconds on the K-Silver ones, a really small amount. I can't tell the difference between them and a regular potentiometer joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Thank you for your response sir! Have you ever detected a delay with the ginful v3’s? They’re the yellow or orange and red hall effects
Not yet. I've gotten two kits from Amazon, and they both look like the same joysticks. Red PC board with black silkscreen. I just haven't had time to test them. I hope to find the time this weekend.
Will this work if connected to a Mac? Mine only goes to centre if it snaps back itself , if I slowly let it go to centre it’s off by 2% which is annoying in games that have no dead zone like inFamous but perfectly fine in COD which has adjustments and a default dead zone.
This is a godsend! Thanks for sharing. Been waiting forever for something like this. Hopefully in the future the dev will be able to implement a wider range of controllers
will this work on dual sense edge
I think I read in The_Al's blog that it currently doesn't work on the edge controller. The_Al didn't have one to test with, if I remember right.
Not yet, but it is a work in progress and it will be added if the firmware can be modified.
You are the men thanks alot just save 20€ for repair i raplace by my self analog but still get drift with this program i get circularity 5% which i better the new one from factory
Can this be used to calibrate hall effect joy sticks after installation
What I mean is does this mean I don't need to do mechanical calibration anymore?
Yep just installed one hall effect just for my right stick today and found this video by luck. It's pretty insane went from 20% to 7.5% in circularity test for the hall effect joystick. And my left side with just the regular joystick is 6%.
That's amazing!!
Can you completely fix the square circularity with the hall effects using this? And is the a delay with the hall effect using it ?
I think so, as long as the Hall effect magnet has not been moved too far off center.
The algorithm decided I was not worthy to see this video when it dropped :( You are correct that TCB sets it's interrupt capture flag when the count reaches TOP, versus TCA which sets the flag upon rollover to zero (assuming up-counting and periodic interrupt mode). This makes the compare register computations differ by one between the two counter types. Even though TCA is overkill for simple PWM, I usually use it for that anyway primarily because of the double-buffering of the Period and Compare registers. This allows PWM updates without glitches or having to disable and re-enable the timer. I will often relegate TCB to a fixed task such as a 1 msec tick timer. When I have used TCB for variable PWM I will monitor the CAPT flag (either by polling, or via interrupt if sleeping) and perform any register updates immediately after the flag gets set. I'm really enjoying this series, mainly for seeing the new ATtiny series being programmed via MPLAB / MCC. I'm still using Atmel Studio 7 with the Atmel ICE and GCC, doing bare-metal register programming from the data sheet for my production work but I did get a Pickit 5 and have started playing with it in MPLAB. Keep up the great work!
Thanks.
So does the software add delay to the standard potentiometer joysticks or were you referring to using Hall effect joy sticks with this software? And being ok with the delay?
I was referring to the Hall effect joysticks; they will always have more delay than the potentiometers.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thanks for clarifying 👍
That's look awesome 😎 let's try 👌🏻
Finally!!! This is so sick
pretty nice
What web browser do you use, because I tried Firefox and it doesn't support
Try Edge or Chrome instead.
It's definitely Chrome. I'm a Firefox user myself but I always keep Chrome installed too for just this sort of thing. Hardwaretester itself doesn't work on Firefox either (not properly anyway). I believe it's a WebHID support issue. It's the same reason keyboard configurators like QMK / VIA don't work on FF.
Just wanted to thank you for this amazing video! So well done. Simple, concise, to the point and just downright enjoyable to watch. What's even better is that my LG dishwasher is all good to go now after replacing the pump assembly. Just wanted to note for others with a similar problem I experienced with this same model: my issue had nothing to do with the noisy motor/bearings issue, I was getting the HE error code. Everything functioned and sounded fine, but my dishes were soaked, and the heat was not turning on. I figured I just needed to replace the heating element, but finally figured out (after numerous dead ends and hours of research) that this model has a combo pump motor/thermistor/heater and you can not just replace the heater. Purchased the combo assembly on Amazon and replaced it just like you showed, and now everything is good to go, no more HE error and dry dishes! Bummer on the replacement cost, but dishes are nice and dry again and now there is no need to replace the unit. Also wanted to note that I tried getting LG to replace on the 10 year motor warranty since it's a combo along with my issue (heater), but LG refused and wanted to charge $350+ w/ tax to send someone out. Anyways, thanks again for the amazing video!!
Great info on the heater error, thanks.
Absolutely, hope it helps someone with the same issue. Thanks again!
This is so good and thanks to the original dev and this video to let me calibrate 2 old enough controller back to usable state. (one of them still needs a stick replacement but at least the other one is working until I can get the hall effect replacements. )
Great to hear!
@@metalplasticelectronics354 have you seen a new blue sensor that started to show on aliexpress(claims to use the stock PS5 joystick/shaft part)? I was wondering if I should get new ones or still get the orange(black text or red board) ones.