Which do you think is better considering the price? I think the differences are infinitesimal and it's not worth paying more money. How about you who have tried them?
Wait a few weeks for the Switch Pro modules. Gulikit will be releasing modules meant specifically for the Switch Pro in a few weeks, the current PS5/Switch Pro ones can not be properly calibrated on the Switch Pro.
Important to note, these same joysticks turned out to not be compatible with the Switch Pro controller. They are remaking them and re-releasing them in a couple weeks they said, The current stock is sold as only being compatible with only the DualSense, same boxes are used, just with a sticker covering the Switch Pro compatibility. New printed boxes will have only Dualsense or Switch Pro respectively. DualSense joysticks got out of testing and are available on Amazon US now as well, DualShock 4 and Xbox are still needing testers so if you want those you can sign up so you don't have to buy them. I'm also one of the testers and so far had no issues at all, though I didn't test the Switch Pro TMR as I don't have that controller to test it with, others seem to be working fine.
Been following your channel for these updates on hall effect joysticks. For a channel covering this topic alone is a life saver for those who do not have any knowledge of electronics. Thank you. Subscribed.
i'm ordered Ginfull V5 Hall Effect Joystick after see your video , and i really like that test output , now wating for my product delevery . thanks to you making this video . may god bless you sir .
Someone finally did it! I'll have to test them as well. I just wish the cost would go down so modders could resell them at a reasonable price. Amazing work with these videos!
@@GregRosolowski I have seen those type iron "tips" specifically for removing joysticks but I now only use a JBC style cartridge (C245) and it wouldn't be compatible with your version. I also see them on other sites using the T12 cartridge, also not compatible with my iron. There is more prep work for that type than a hot air station. I don't run a repair business to make that worth my time. But it's nice to have options.
@@tn1495 The first "modded" controller had two brand new Ginfull V5 hall-effect sticks and had a RISE v1.0 back button kit. I sold it for $65. The only money I spent was $30 for a used motherboard, Ginfull joysticks and shipping. I already had the parts for the controller. The RISE kit didn't cost me anything. If someone sends me a controller and pay shipping both ways and for the joysticks I'd charge $20 to install them.
A certain punishing game (which I'm sure I'm playing with too much force) has resulted in the left stick starting to drift forward. I've watched several of your videos, and I'm really impressed with your testing methodology and attention to details. Going to pick up some GuliKit joysticks (and a better solder vaccuum) and give them a shot. Thanks so much for your time and effort!
Great video, very indepth. I'm part of the beta test (yes, Gulikit jumped the gun and released them early) and plan to install a set into my Xbox & PS5 controllers this weekend. I won't be doing this sort of analysis though, just a calibration and report on my findings. 😅
Just so people know the gukikit tmr joysticks are NOT hall effect They use another sensor called TMR which is better than hall effect joysticks hence why this is better.
Congratulations on the video, just to remind you that I warned you that I was going to release the gulikit in the hall effect v5 video :) thanks for showing that they really are of good quality.
Thanks a lot mate! I ordered these pair of joystick and they are fantastic. They feel very high quality and accurate. Had to buy soldering equipment and learn how to solder but it went perfect first shot. Great methodical analysis of such sensors, very informative and detailed!
In testing through AKNES the boxes labeled "Switch Pro & PS5" avoid those if you are trying them with a Switch Pro controller. They don't have the correct voltage needed to work correctly. If you find versions that only say Switch Pro Controller and NOT PS5 then they should be the corrected versions only for the Switch Pro controller.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 not sure, people have said it's a little bit more than dualsense. but if your switch is on the newest firmware it supposedly reduces the issue of it not reaching the edges while calibrating.
tried them and to date they are my favorite to use but they are too costly compared to the ginza i mainly use for repair , hope they make bulk option of 10 or more for a good price
Yes I am, I haven't had time to play very much so I need a few more hours of comparing the different joystick types. But so far they are my favorite and I'm liking the thumb knobs that come with them.
Thanks for this instrucitve video. The site description tells us that these new sensors do not suffer from interference from triggers (especially the XBOX left trigger). Would it be possible for you to test with magnetic caps from Elite 1 and 2 to see if it would be a problem to use them with?
DO NOT USE THESE ON THE SWITCH PRO CONTROLLER ATM. The output voltage is too low for Switch Pro controllers, leading to them not being calibratable on the Switch unless you're on firmware 18.1.0 or newer (and sometimes not even then). Gulikit has stopped labeling the PS5 and Switch Pro modules as the same unit, and will be releasing separate Switch Pro modules in a few weeks.
I just received a set of these joysticks for dualsense, since I have not a soldering station I am planning to replace only the sensor on the ALPS mechanism.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I made some practice on an unserviceable dualsense board, I am able to remove the sensor and install a new one. If the attempt fails I will buy a heated vacuum sucker pump and remove the whole joystick.
thanks for the info, is there any software to calibrate any controller? i know there are calibration for sony using a website and xbox with a Microsoft app but how about 1st and 3rd party Nintendo controllers or any 3rd party controller for PC ?
possibly not fully flat to the PCB. maybe try recalibrate the circularity a couple times. if still not working try swapping it out with another sensor or full joystick.
Are these better than the Ginfull Hall effect V6 moduls ?, and do you require a calibration board to be installed along with them ? or the calibration board is only for the hall effect, I'm just confused about the different moduls and which one is really the best in term of latency, durablity, I have both the Dualsense and The dualsense edge and I'm planning to upgrade them with the best stick available, thank you very much for your feedback.
These are the best I've tried so far. There is calibration software for the DualSense controllers, so don't need a calibration board. I don't think the software works for the Edge yet though. And I haven't tried the Ginfull V6 only the V5 so I can't say about them.
One of my PS5 Dualsense controllers started to stick drift again and since the warranty is over for it i thought i would order new joysticks and fix it myself. I was looking for the best parts for replacement and i found your channel. You make really great videos testing many joystick kits and even showing how to install and calibrate them! Thank you for your hard work showing how to fix controllers, its very helpful! I subscribed and will watch more of your videos to learn more. I have a question though. You say that this Gulikit TMR set seems to be the best one, but does it worth the price difference compared to cheaper hall effect joysticks? Is it so much better? There is that later version of Ginfull hall effect joysticks you tested a little while ago and they seem good too. The big difference is that for the same price i can get 2 Gulikit TMR or 10 of the Ginfull ones. With a ten pack i could replace the joysticks in all of my controllers when they start to drift in the future and even have leftovers, but with this Gulikit i can only fix one. I can afford to buy the Gulikit, just dont want to waste money if the difference is very minor or not noticeable, so im not sure which one to buy. Any thoughts?
Either choice will fix your stick drift problem. I have both Ginfull v5 and GuliKit TMR. Depends how picky you are and what games you play. If you have more than 2 controllers you fix several with a ten pack of Ginfull v5 joysticks and resell the fixed controllers then use that money for GuliKit TMR. Or if you only need 1 working controller then go with GuliKit.
@@syn80 I see thank you for answering! I keep multiple controllers because i like having different colored ones and i also want to have spares, so if the battery gets drained in the one im using, i can just put it on the charger and take another one and continue playing wirelessly. So i wont be selling my controllers. Currently just one of my controllers have stick drift, the others are working fine yet. I had stick drift issues many times in the past, but previously Sony exchanged them for new ones because it was within warranty time, they usually started to drift after like 3-5 months of use, but lately they became more lasting and the latest controllers i got worked fine for more than a year, which was enough to run out of warranty time (Sony gives one year for controllers in my country) so i cant exchange them anymore. Though im still not sure how noticeable the difference would be between the Ginfull and Gulikit joysticks, i dont really play competitive games, but i play action games and fps games. Maybe i could just get the Gulikit now and fix the drifting controller and when the others break down i could get a pack of cheaper ones and see how those work.
@@gabor3432 The only difference I feel between Ginfull and GuliKit is the tension. Both are fast and smooth. The tension has to do with the spring inside the joystick that allows it to snap back to center. Some people manually replace them but that's too much effort for me. GuliKit is like brand new ALPS and Ginfull is a little softer (less tension).
Hey man, I have the old version of the Hall effect (got them around February), its the orange ones with some red in the middle. It might just be me but I genuinely think that the joystick tension on those joysticks is lower. The base tension on PS5 joysticks is 100g and I suspect those joysticks to be at the very least 75g. That's imo the reason why they feel so smooth and have less resistance when using them. Let me know what your thought are on this, looking forward to your input.
Just watched a couple of your older videos (literally just discovered this channel). The joystick I have is the one you tested on Nov 27, 2023 (Hall Effect Joystick Replacement for the PS5 DualSense) . Would you say that this new GuliKit or the Ginful V5 have that same feel to it? Sorry for the paragraph
@@metalplasticelectronics354 aight good to know, so i’m guessing the V5 and the version that came out 8 months ago have the same feel to it. Thanks man much appreciated
I should have worded my post better. The Ginfull V5 has a bit of a smooth feel. The previous version I tested has a very very smooth feel. The older one I tested I think had an L-3J labeled PC board. And the output is filtered quite heavily.
I was wondering if the Gulikit TMR joysticks make a clicking sound like the original ALPS joysticks? I'd be very happy if you could check it for me. You already have a video about that clicking sound released 2 years ago.
Not like the Alps. It's strange now, the first thing I do with a new joystick module is put it up to my ear and see what kind of noise it makes. There was a noise I noticed with these. It kind of sounded like a thick grease pulling apart. But the set I've had in a controller for a couple of weeks I can't hear it now.
Can you keep the rumbles and speaker in the controller when you add these are do they need removed? I know when some hall effect sensors you need to remove them for the joysticks to work.
I would expect only the speaker to be close enough to affect the right joystick's up-down axis. After it's put back together, calibration should take care of any shift caused by the speaker magnet. I now have 3 controllers with Hall or TMR sensors, and they still have the speaker and rumble motors.
I just bought an Easysmx X10 controller which has hall effect joysticks. In the circularity test it just gave 0.2% error. do you know how they achieved this incredible precision?
Hey man, Just thought I’d pop in I had just watch the majority of your videos on this during a 10 Hour Drive. A few questions - I have an elite series 2 controller, more specifically after 6 months, I have purchased four diff elite series 2 controllers. Everyone has been screwed in its own unique way. Anyways 1) there’s mentioned software for calibration, however does Microsoft have this? I don’t believe so. If this is the case, are there workarounds to hook the joysticks and calibrating other ways? I guess it should be noted. I don’t have a Microsoft computer. Macos/ios I do have an Xbox one. Literally for one reason and that is to update firmware and mess with settings. 2) assuming that there is someway to calibrate joysticks I would most likely go with hall effect. I forgot the name, but the quickest reaction time. All I do is play codmobile and the only way to compete with touchscreen players as a controller player most sensitive, turning left and right possible, considering literally run straight at you slide do a 180 or 540, Zoom in locate your head and shoot before a controller player can even turn around. 😂 Also, if there were a way to hook up, dual sense joysticks to elite two controller is there a way to calibrate
I don't know, I don't have an Xbox or a controller for one. But I think I remember a note on GuliKit's website that said there was no calibration software for the Elite controllers.
Yes, I have a controller with the GuliKit thumb knobs and a controller with the original DualSense thumb knobs. I like the GuliKit knobs better myself.
Hey can you test this on the xbox series controllers please? The website says it should work perfectly after calibrating it with the official Xbox Accessories app on xbox or microsoft store. Also pls test if the left trigger would interfere with the left stick. Thanks man
I have a quick video showing that most magnet on the Elite 2 don't interfere with it. Made sure to have both rear paddle magnet facing north. LT still does but not enough to affect gameplay (it moves it .003-.01 at most). On pin two of trigger stop it is very minor. At that point on could add a later of steel or be fancy with Mu-Metal for the extra protection. Also depends on how strong the Lt magnet is. I didn't add any extra EMI protection on my build for the sake of testing. But also used the sticks they provided. I've tested on both Series and Elite 2 before launch. There is an issue of odd overshoot getting added at random while playing. I'd wait for a new revision in a month or two. Assuming it is also no just a Xbox Cal tool issue after calibration as well.
@@fakhriwicaksono7047im a tester for aknes gulikit. I have installed the Xbox TMR sticks. The left trigger will trigger movement in the micro decimals on gamepad tester website but in game like warzone with dead zone set at 0, the left trigger will not do anything to the left stick. They work perfectly otherwise
@@Vizr. it’s strange because the Xbox series controllers do have a calibration tool actually. Also gulikit said themselves that these sticks don’t officially support Xbox elite controllers.
I just soldered some favor unions and ithey were very good, do you think i should buy this and replace the favor unions? How much better are the guliKit ?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 only in the centre there's jitter, when I move it a little it stops when I move it again it starts, how do I eliminate the jitter completely
i dont know much, but i would like to ask if its possible to switch out the Potentiometer from the xbox elite series 2 with these sensors? i really would like to see that work as its my fav gamepad
If they are ALPS you could, just make sure you order the Xbox version TMR joysticks. But if your joysticks are worn it would be better to replace the entire joystick, not just the sensors.
You can, sensors calibrate to 2-5% if the sticks pillar thickness is 9.5mm. Kinda of low for the range department. Currently for Xbox they are not a good replacement. Since you end up with range issues overshooting at odd times. I'd wait for a new revision in a month or two. I tested them before launch on Series and Elite 2 controllers.
No, the click is from the Alps joystick. These have a bit of noise at the start, it sounds like a thick grease pulling apart. But I couldn't hear that after a few hours of use.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thanks for reply, is gulikit spring interchangeable with alps ? i have scuf envision and there no possibility to calibrate it if i swap to gulikit analog module
It depends on what you want. It's quite a bit of work to change the joysticks out. I think the GuliKit TMR is the best I've tried so far. But The Ginfull V5 is still an excellent joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354but these aren’t alps. They’re TMR. If you’re saying the TMR is similar to ALPS, then the stock ALPS spring should fit in this right? I want to increase stick tension on the TMR
@@metalplasticelectronics354the spring from the alps stick also fit the TMR stick. Let me know if it performs similarly with just the sensors or if there are any disadvantages
i have one question, if you own 2 different dualshock 3s (one with hall effects, the other is using potentiometer) how do the sticks on both of them feel? any difference? cuz i would love someone to test it.
@drakedragon4572 I mean this is the best, but tbh I prefer well calibrated k-silver JH20's because they can achieve a true 0 deadzone unlike any other joystick I've used. It's probably hard to find a version that works on a standard controller though, so this is prob your best bet.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 everyone is talking so good about them and the technology make sense…I can’t seen to get them to work I have a video of them working and one of them mess up
China gets a bad rap because people import the cheapest stuff they can. There's a market for cheap. There's also a market for quality. You get what you pay for.
I need these for Xbox Pads (X360/ Xbox One and Sereies S|X pads .. im so sick of stick drift on $60 and especially $200 Elite Controllers // WTF Sony and MS
DS4 was repaired with Ginfull V5 and was satisfied,
DualSense decided to repair it with Gulikit TMR.
Thank you!
@@nani4967 what is ginfull v5?
@@AndyBaedal th-cam.com/video/5eDPQaIi0yg/w-d-xo.html
Which do you think is better considering the price? I think the differences are infinitesimal and it's not worth paying more money. How about you who have tried them?
I've been waiting for your review of these sticks. Looks like I will purchasing a couple for a switch pro and dualsense. Thanks.
I've read somewhere that they don't work so well for Switch
Wait a few weeks for the Switch Pro modules. Gulikit will be releasing modules meant specifically for the Switch Pro in a few weeks, the current PS5/Switch Pro ones can not be properly calibrated on the Switch Pro.
Was so excited for this review! Great job!
Thank you.
I got the opportunity to be a beta tester for these and have been loving them so far.
Important to note, these same joysticks turned out to not be compatible with the Switch Pro controller. They are remaking them and re-releasing them in a couple weeks they said, The current stock is sold as only being compatible with only the DualSense, same boxes are used, just with a sticker covering the Switch Pro compatibility. New printed boxes will have only Dualsense or Switch Pro respectively.
DualSense joysticks got out of testing and are available on Amazon US now as well, DualShock 4 and Xbox are still needing testers so if you want those you can sign up so you don't have to buy them. I'm also one of the testers and so far had no issues at all, though I didn't test the Switch Pro TMR as I don't have that controller to test it with, others seem to be working fine.
@djBaro_official How do I sign up to test I have Dualshock 4
@@jmaragh8114same here please
Do you know if they will release with Dualsense Edge stick modules?
@@KNIFEDEFIANT No, I don't know
@@jmaragh8114 AKNES, reseller of Gulikit, is organizing the test. You can find more information through them.
Been following your channel for these updates on hall effect joysticks. For a channel covering this topic alone is a life saver for those who do not have any knowledge of electronics. Thank you. Subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
i'm ordered Ginfull V5 Hall Effect Joystick after see your video , and i really like that test output , now wating for my product delevery . thanks to you making this video . may god bless you sir .
Same, mine just entered the state yesterday, it will be my first time swapping out joystick, fingers crossed it will go well.
Nice 👍
Recently it also launched a Halleffect potentiometer, people are installing it on the Alps analogues, it looks good
Someone finally did it! I'll have to test them as well. I just wish the cost would go down so modders could resell them at a reasonable price. Amazing work with these videos!
I buy used, broken, stick-drift controllers for about $30 then rebuild to sell from that.
@@syn80 have you checked out the tool I sell? It makes swapping the entire stick module almost instant. Way better than a heat gun.
@@GregRosolowski I have seen those type iron "tips" specifically for removing joysticks but I now only use a JBC style cartridge (C245) and it wouldn't be compatible with your version. I also see them on other sites using the T12 cartridge, also not compatible with my iron. There is more prep work for that type than a hot air station. I don't run a repair business to make that worth my time. But it's nice to have options.
@@syn80what do u do to them and how much do u sell for
@@tn1495 The first "modded" controller had two brand new Ginfull V5 hall-effect sticks and had a RISE v1.0 back button kit. I sold it for $65. The only money I spent was $30 for a used motherboard, Ginfull joysticks and shipping. I already had the parts for the controller. The RISE kit didn't cost me anything. If someone sends me a controller and pay shipping both ways and for the joysticks I'd charge $20 to install them.
A certain punishing game (which I'm sure I'm playing with too much force) has resulted in the left stick starting to drift forward. I've watched several of your videos, and I'm really impressed with your testing methodology and attention to details. Going to pick up some GuliKit joysticks (and a better solder vaccuum) and give them a shot. Thanks so much for your time and effort!
Hopefully, your replacement will go smoothly, good luck.
which game?
@@supernice_auto It was Evil West. I really ended up abusing the left stick.
@@acronce lol gotcha
Mine just came in too and the caps are swappable and fit on Kontrol Freeks well!
hey mate - can I ask what you mean as I am considering these also? do you just use the original joystick caps, and throw the kontrolfreeks on there?
@@enigm409 the top half of the Thumbsticks come off, I’m assuming u can buy replacements on the website I’m not sure
Great video, very indepth. I'm part of the beta test (yes, Gulikit jumped the gun and released them early) and plan to install a set into my Xbox & PS5 controllers this weekend. I won't be doing this sort of analysis though, just a calibration and report on my findings. 😅
I think you will be happy with them.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I got them installed and calibrated, so far, so good. 👍
This review was so soothing. Like listening to a white Morgan Freeman. Or an older and seasoned JerryRigEverything
been waiting for this. now i plan on buying a controller along with the tmr sensors
Just so people know the gukikit tmr joysticks are NOT hall effect They use another sensor called TMR which is better than hall effect joysticks hence why this is better.
They are only better for battery life and I don't think many people care, they have the same ammount of steps as a hall effect module
Congratulations on the video, just to remind you that I warned you that I was going to release the gulikit in the hall effect v5 video :) thanks for showing that they really are of good quality.
Also the TMR thumb caps can be replaced with different height/dome shape, but you'll need to purchase that separately.
Looks very interesting, seems I need to practice my soldering skills and enrich my toolsets
Thanks a lot mate! I ordered these pair of joystick and they are fantastic. They feel very high quality and accurate.
Had to buy soldering equipment and learn how to solder but it went perfect first shot.
Great methodical analysis of such sensors, very informative and detailed!
Great to hear!
This is awesome! Can you also do a comparison between just changing the sensor vs the whole joystick module?
Sweet, my ginfull v5 order hadn't shipped yet so I managed to cancel it and order a set of these. Thanks!
Nice content as usual, please do more!
In testing through AKNES the boxes labeled "Switch Pro & PS5" avoid those if you are trying them with a Switch Pro controller. They don't have the correct voltage needed to work correctly. If you find versions that only say Switch Pro Controller and NOT PS5 then they should be the corrected versions only for the Switch Pro controller.
What voltage does the Switch Pro run on?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 not sure, people have said it's a little bit more than dualsense. but if your switch is on the newest firmware it supposedly reduces the issue of it not reaching the edges while calibrating.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work 🙏
Thank you! Will do!
You gottta put snapback as one of your tests.
tried them and to date they are my favorite to use but they are too costly compared to the ginza i mainly use for repair , hope they make bulk option of 10 or more for a good price
Hey, love the video! Very informative as always. Are you still planning on doing a follow up? I'd love to know how they are holding up.
Yes I am, I haven't had time to play very much so I need a few more hours of comparing the different joystick types. But so far they are my favorite and I'm liking the thumb knobs that come with them.
Thanks for this instrucitve video.
The site description tells us that these new sensors do not suffer from interference from triggers (especially the XBOX left trigger). Would it be possible for you to test with magnetic caps from Elite 1 and 2 to see if it would be a problem to use them with?
It doesn't work well for my procontroller (switch). When I calibrated, both analogs can't complete full circle.
How do these compare to potentiometers in terms of input lag and accuracy for FPS games?
Is there calibration required for Xbox series? If so What is the way to calibrate them?
DO NOT USE THESE ON THE SWITCH PRO CONTROLLER ATM.
The output voltage is too low for Switch Pro controllers, leading to them not being calibratable on the Switch unless you're on firmware 18.1.0 or newer (and sometimes not even then).
Gulikit has stopped labeling the PS5 and Switch Pro modules as the same unit, and will be releasing separate Switch Pro modules in a few weeks.
I'll order these next time, hopefully i can replace my old sticks with the v5 sticks. Will be doing that next week
wish someone will make a version for XB360 controller.....
I just received a set of these joysticks for dualsense, since I have not a soldering station I am planning to replace only the sensor on the ALPS mechanism.
Not removing the joystick frame and switch makes for a much easier operation. Good luck.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I made some practice on an unserviceable dualsense board, I am able to remove the sensor and install a new one. If the attempt fails I will buy a heated vacuum sucker pump and remove the whole joystick.
thanks for the info,
is there any software to calibrate any controller? i know there are calibration for sony using a website and xbox with a Microsoft app
but how about 1st and 3rd party Nintendo controllers or any 3rd party controller for PC ?
Do these replacements retain the stick click functionality? L3/R3? A review on amazon noted this functionality is lost which seems odd to me
Yes, L3/R3 switch function works fine.
Awesome thanks for confirming!
What makes the gamepad tester's center adjustment values more accurate? In my environment the maximum is 0.00392.
I received a DS4 set for testing, and I'm pleasantly surprised with them. Only gripe is the tension on the stick.
My ginfulls work great however the circularity is is slightly under on one edge whys that
possibly not fully flat to the PCB. maybe try recalibrate the circularity a couple times. if still not working try swapping it out with another sensor or full joystick.
So what is your opinion on this tmr joystick vs ginful v5? The v5 is the only one with curved magnet, wonder how it can compare to this TMR.
GuliKit TMR is better, best I've seen so far.
Xbox option coming!
Are these better than the Ginfull Hall effect V6 moduls ?, and do you require a calibration board to be installed along with them ? or the calibration board is only for the hall effect, I'm just confused about the different moduls and which one is really the best in term of latency, durablity, I have both the Dualsense and The dualsense edge and I'm planning to upgrade them with the best stick available, thank you very much for your feedback.
These are the best I've tried so far. There is calibration software for the DualSense controllers, so don't need a calibration board. I don't think the software works for the Edge yet though. And I haven't tried the Ginfull V6 only the V5 so I can't say about them.
One of my PS5 Dualsense controllers started to stick drift again and since the warranty is over for it i thought i would order new joysticks and fix it myself.
I was looking for the best parts for replacement and i found your channel. You make really great videos testing many joystick kits and even showing how to install and calibrate them!
Thank you for your hard work showing how to fix controllers, its very helpful! I subscribed and will watch more of your videos to learn more.
I have a question though. You say that this Gulikit TMR set seems to be the best one, but does it worth the price difference compared to cheaper hall effect joysticks? Is it so much better?
There is that later version of Ginfull hall effect joysticks you tested a little while ago and they seem good too. The big difference is that for the same price i can get 2 Gulikit TMR or 10 of the Ginfull ones.
With a ten pack i could replace the joysticks in all of my controllers when they start to drift in the future and even have leftovers, but with this Gulikit i can only fix one.
I can afford to buy the Gulikit, just dont want to waste money if the difference is very minor or not noticeable, so im not sure which one to buy. Any thoughts?
Either choice will fix your stick drift problem. I have both Ginfull v5 and GuliKit TMR. Depends how picky you are and what games you play. If you have more than 2 controllers you fix several with a ten pack of Ginfull v5 joysticks and resell the fixed controllers then use that money for GuliKit TMR. Or if you only need 1 working controller then go with GuliKit.
@@syn80 I see thank you for answering! I keep multiple controllers because i like having different colored ones and i also want to have spares, so if the battery gets drained in the one im using, i can just put it on the charger and take another one and continue playing wirelessly. So i wont be selling my controllers. Currently just one of my controllers have stick drift, the others are working fine yet. I had stick drift issues many times in the past, but previously Sony exchanged them for new ones because it was within warranty time, they usually started to drift after like 3-5 months of use, but lately they became more lasting and the latest controllers i got worked fine for more than a year, which was enough to run out of warranty time (Sony gives one year for controllers in my country) so i cant exchange them anymore.
Though im still not sure how noticeable the difference would be between the Ginfull and Gulikit joysticks, i dont really play competitive games, but i play action games and fps games. Maybe i could just get the Gulikit now and fix the drifting controller and when the others break down i could get a pack of cheaper ones and see how those work.
@@gabor3432 The only difference I feel between Ginfull and GuliKit is the tension. Both are fast and smooth. The tension has to do with the spring inside the joystick that allows it to snap back to center. Some people manually replace them but that's too much effort for me. GuliKit is like brand new ALPS and Ginfull is a little softer (less tension).
@@syn80 Thank you for the answers! Since then i got a pack of Gulikit TMR joysticks and will fix my drifting controller with it very soon! :)
Hey man, I have the old version of the Hall effect (got them around February), its the orange ones with some red in the middle. It might just be me but I genuinely think that the joystick tension on those joysticks is lower. The base tension on PS5 joysticks is 100g and I suspect those joysticks to be at the very least 75g. That's imo the reason why they feel so smooth and have less resistance when using them. Let me know what your thought are on this, looking forward to your input.
Just watched a couple of your older videos (literally just discovered this channel). The joystick I have is the one you tested on Nov 27, 2023 (Hall Effect Joystick Replacement for the PS5 DualSense) . Would you say that this new GuliKit or the Ginful V5 have that same feel to it? Sorry for the paragraph
The Ginful V5 have just a bit of smooth feel to them. The GuliKit TMR have the feel of a potentiometer joystick, at lest to me.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 aight good to know, so i’m guessing the V5 and the version that came out 8 months ago have the same feel to it. Thanks man much appreciated
I should have worded my post better. The Ginfull V5 has a bit of a smooth feel. The previous version I tested has a very very smooth feel. The older one I tested I think had an L-3J labeled PC board. And the output is filtered quite heavily.
I was wondering if the Gulikit TMR joysticks make a clicking sound like the original ALPS joysticks? I'd be very happy if you could check it for me. You already have a video about that clicking sound released 2 years ago.
Not like the Alps. It's strange now, the first thing I do with a new joystick module is put it up to my ear and see what kind of noise it makes. There was a noise I noticed with these. It kind of sounded like a thick grease pulling apart. But the set I've had in a controller for a couple of weeks I can't hear it now.
Thanks for information. It is good to hear this. Probably, grease getting smoother with use and noise gone.
Nice👍🏻🔝'
Can you keep the rumbles and speaker in the controller when you add these are do they need removed? I know when some hall effect sensors you need to remove them for the joysticks to work.
I would expect only the speaker to be close enough to affect the right joystick's up-down axis. After it's put back together, calibration should take care of any shift caused by the speaker magnet. I now have 3 controllers with Hall or TMR sensors, and they still have the speaker and rumble motors.
I just bought an Easysmx X10 controller which has hall effect joysticks. In the circularity test it just gave 0.2% error. do you know how they achieved this incredible precision?
I don't know for sure but it might be as simple as they calibrate with more points.
Hey do think these would work on the ps5 razer wolverine v2 pro controller?
Hey man,
Just thought I’d pop in I had just watch the majority of your videos on this during a 10 Hour Drive.
A few questions - I have an elite series 2 controller, more specifically after 6 months, I have purchased four diff elite series 2 controllers. Everyone has been screwed in its own unique way.
Anyways
1) there’s mentioned software for calibration, however does Microsoft have this? I don’t believe so. If this is the case, are there workarounds to hook the joysticks and calibrating other ways? I guess it should be noted. I don’t have a Microsoft computer. Macos/ios I do have an Xbox one. Literally for one reason and that is to update firmware and mess with settings.
2) assuming that there is someway to calibrate joysticks I would most likely go with hall effect. I forgot the name, but the quickest reaction time. All I do is play codmobile and the only way to compete with touchscreen players as a controller player most sensitive, turning left and right possible, considering literally run straight at you slide do a 180 or 540, Zoom in locate your head and shoot before a controller player can even turn around. 😂
Also, if there were a way to hook up, dual sense joysticks to elite two controller is there a way to calibrate
I don't know, I don't have an Xbox or a controller for one. But I think I remember a note on GuliKit's website that said there was no calibration software for the Elite controllers.
/sigh - I wish these would work on the Steelseries stratus duo
Will OEM thumbsticks work on these?
Yes, I have a controller with the GuliKit thumb knobs and a controller with the original DualSense thumb knobs. I like the GuliKit knobs better myself.
Anyone know if these will work on a dualsense edge?
How is the spring force on them? Softer than dualsense stock or about the same?
I would say a bit softer, but not as soft as the Ginfull joysticks.
Do you do joystick module repairs?
No, sorry.
Does anyone know if you need to use both joysticks at once or can you simply install/calibrate one at a time.
They are supposed to perfectly replicate the function of the potentiometer sticks, so that should work
Hey can you test this on the xbox series controllers please? The website says it should work perfectly after calibrating it with the official Xbox Accessories app on xbox or microsoft store. Also pls test if the left trigger would interfere with the left stick. Thanks man
Would be interested in this as well.
@@sp2icy468 yeah i would appreciate it so much cuz i dont see many youtubers testing sticks on xbox controllers
I have a quick video showing that most magnet on the Elite 2 don't interfere with it. Made sure to have both rear paddle magnet facing north. LT still does but not enough to affect gameplay (it moves it .003-.01 at most). On pin two of trigger stop it is very minor. At that point on could add a later of steel or be fancy with Mu-Metal for the extra protection. Also depends on how strong the Lt magnet is. I didn't add any extra EMI protection on my build for the sake of testing. But also used the sticks they provided.
I've tested on both Series and Elite 2 before launch. There is an issue of odd overshoot getting added at random while playing. I'd wait for a new revision in a month or two. Assuming it is also no just a Xbox Cal tool issue after calibration as well.
@@fakhriwicaksono7047im a tester for aknes gulikit. I have installed the Xbox TMR sticks. The left trigger will trigger movement in the micro decimals on gamepad tester website but in game like warzone with dead zone set at 0, the left trigger will not do anything to the left stick. They work perfectly otherwise
@@Vizr. it’s strange because the Xbox series controllers do have a calibration tool actually. Also gulikit said themselves that these sticks don’t officially support Xbox elite controllers.
I just soldered some favor unions and ithey were very good, do you think i should buy this and replace the favor unions? How much better are the guliKit ?
The GuliKit has a bit better circularity. Both are very fast sensors. So I don't intend to replace the Favor Union ones I have installed.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I see, thank you!
I installed these modules on my ps5 roller but I'm seeing jitter on gamepad tester why? Even after calibration there's jitter
How much jitter? And can you move the joystick a little to stop it?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 only in the centre there's jitter, when I move it a little it stops when I move it again it starts, how do I eliminate the jitter completely
Those look like the definitive sensors 😄
Is there the possibility to calibrate them for the ps4 joystick?
Yes, the same way for Dualsense controller. You use the website he posts in his videos.
They are currently available for the DS4, DS5, and Xbox "Series" controllers. Don't get them for the Switch just yet, wait a few weeks for those.
@@syn80 Thanks, I didn't know it also works for dualsense.. I thought the calibration software was only for the PS5 joystick
i dont know much, but i would like to ask if its possible to switch out the Potentiometer from the xbox elite series 2 with these sensors? i really would like to see that work as its my fav gamepad
If they are ALPS you could, just make sure you order the Xbox version TMR joysticks. But if your joysticks are worn it would be better to replace the entire joystick, not just the sensors.
You can, sensors calibrate to 2-5% if the sticks pillar thickness is 9.5mm. Kinda of low for the range department. Currently for Xbox they are not a good replacement. Since you end up with range issues overshooting at odd times. I'd wait for a new revision in a month or two.
I tested them before launch on Series and Elite 2 controllers.
How do these compare to standard dualsense joysticks.
So far I would say I like them better than the original joysticks. But need more time using them.
Does it work with the dual-sense edge stick module?
Yes but there is currently no calibration available for the dual sense edge modules, so it may not work well.
do they click when
moving stick like almost every dualsense does ?
No, the click is from the Alps joystick. These have a bit of noise at the start, it sounds like a thick grease pulling apart. But I couldn't hear that after a few hours of use.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thanks for reply, is gulikit spring interchangeable with alps ? i have scuf envision and there no possibility to calibrate it if i swap to gulikit analog module
should i buy this new joystick or it is ok to use GinFul v5 if i already have it?
It depends on what you want. It's quite a bit of work to change the joysticks out. I think the GuliKit TMR is the best I've tried so far. But The Ginfull V5 is still an excellent joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 it has creaky mechanics
Would the favor hall spring fit and work fine in these?
No, there is a shaft difference between Favor Union and Alps.
@@metalplasticelectronics354but these aren’t alps. They’re TMR. If you’re saying the TMR is similar to ALPS, then the stock ALPS spring should fit in this right? I want to increase stick tension on the TMR
I was able to mount the GuliKit TMR sensor on an ALPS joystick frame.
@@metalplasticelectronics354the spring from the alps stick also fit the TMR stick. Let me know if it performs similarly with just the sensors or if there are any disadvantages
Can you made a calibration tutorial for ps4, ps5 and xbox?
I don't an Xbox but here is a video on the DualSense: th-cam.com/video/0fK1sapv0YI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cPHrEWJqkrCZLjNx
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thats cool. Thank you! Too bad you don't have tutorial for xbox yet
Dumb question, are these hall effect?
They have a magnet so yes
@@NjutNjutThat's all it takes? I wasn't sure if it was fully hall effect, thanks.
They are not Hall effect. They use the same magnetic sensing technology as used for some hard drive read heads, a type of magnetoresistance.
what does tmr stand for?
Tunneling Magnetoresistance.
Can these be used for ps4?
They have a version for the PS4. Can find them on Amazon now.
i have one question, if you own 2 different dualshock 3s (one with hall effects, the other is using potentiometer) how do the sticks on both of them feel? any difference? cuz i would love someone to test it.
Chinese are releasing new joysticks while the previous generation is being delivered to the buyer
Which sticks are those
@@mesmeriizek4441 outdated ancient Ginful v5
@@mesmeriizek4441 ancient GinFul v5
TMR has 0 advantage over hall effect other than lower power consumption, thus lower thermals.
What is the best replacement joystick? What's your opinion?
@drakedragon4572 I mean this is the best, but tbh I prefer well calibrated k-silver JH20's because they can achieve a true 0 deadzone unlike any other joystick I've used. It's probably hard to find a version that works on a standard controller though, so this is prob your best bet.
These tmr are junk I been through 3 set they work are a few mins then they go top right corner and will stay at the otter point
I've only used 2 sets so far but haven't had any trouble with them. The longest set has been in use for a little over 2 weeks.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 everyone is talking so good about them and the technology make sense…I can’t seen to get them to work I have a video of them working and one of them mess up
sounds like a skill issue
I have the same issue.....they are working for a few minutes
upload a video
dude its made in china...
So what?
China gets a bad rap because people import the cheapest stuff they can. There's a market for cheap. There's also a market for quality. You get what you pay for.
you must be new to electronics LOL
@@supernice_auto you must be new to cynical sarcasm
I need these for Xbox Pads (X360/ Xbox One and Sereies S|X pads .. im so sick of stick drift on $60 and especially $200 Elite Controllers // WTF Sony and MS
How or where do you actually purchase these? Their site doesn’t have a purchase option
Nevermind. Didn’t make it to the end of the video haha
They have an official aliexpress store
@@fjjwfp7819 I know I made it to the end of the video and found the link. Bought me a pair
They are on Amazon by AKNES. They are an official reseller for GuliKit.