Successfully installed these today. Your videos were very helpful in helping me decide on which joystick to get and helping me feel confident I could do it. First time soldering to a circuit board.
Installed GuliKit TMR kit in my DS4 two weeks ago. The sensors and stick assembly are incredible. They are so smooth and responsive. I believe that they are definitely worth the higher price.
The sticks 🕹️ look quality they provide with a metal slide bush sleeve by the looks of what I've seen. Any height or stick diameter change will change how your muscle 👍🏼 memory feels actuating the tilt range response curve. If you're going to use the standard sticks made of plastic that can possibly get shaft wear lines, you might want to try the silicone sleeve savers I've recently used on my DS4's then do the (DualShock Calibration GUI) if the range is slightly 🤏🏼 short. (Noting the Dualsense has replaceable friction rings the DS4 does not) Always temporarily test it first to avoid odd results in calibration. Not all Hall Effect side pots translate the information equal & flipping the magnetic pole can set them up for other controllers 😉🤫. The Ginfull stand alone sides designed for easy switching on Alps frames for example will get the positive + axis circularity shrunk to suit as expected but the negative - side stayed square 🟥 🤷🏼♂️. I'm not finished experimenting with it just yet but the magnets are bessed set central to the standing position. The pendulum motion of it swinging to far over the chip makes the outer tilt response exponentially more sensitive. It's a proximity thing not so linear by its nature. That's why I'm looking at this vid or considering the orange Ginfull units with radial magnets that terminate to points. It probably results in a more linear magnetic 🧲 field ⚛️🧭 fall off, not such an abrupt change to the outer reading 🤷🏼♂️.
Hi, maybe I missed it, but I didn’t hear a clear answer about power draw compared to the original sticks. Do you have any readings from the originals to compare with? I’d love to know if these are more or less efficient than the regular potentiometer sticks.
So let me get this straight. From what I've heard, TMRs have a thing called "quantum tunneling". Which would mean that it would attract another magnet from through the white plastic part of the TMR to the magnet unlike hall effects 🤔
Just installed sensors and left stick works fine but right stick input got stuck at about 40% on the x axis. Not sure if it's my poor workmanship on the soldering and cleaning. But it was working fine for about an hour.
Has anyone ever done Aim Labs testing with some of these joysticks to see which one actually has better results? On paper better doesn’t always completely transfer over just because there is so many factors, just curious
These are nice and all, but I'm not sure the cost is worth it. There's not much more going on inside, so I don't really understand why the cost is 4-5 times more. For the DIYer, the difference between $5 and $15 isn't bad, but for the repair shops it can be a deal breaker. If I charge $25 for a typical hall effect repair, now I gotta charge $40 or more to use TMRs. Hard to justify for some.
The Aliexpress GuliKit store does list some bulk lots. It's still more expensive than the Hall, but If the customer wants the best, they will have to pay a bit more for it.
Only if the power and ground pins are in the correct location. If looking at the outside of the sensor with the leads down, the ground is the left lead and power is the right lead. This is why there are different versions for the DualSense and DualShock4.
I bought the cheapest DS4 compatible pair of Hall Effect sensors on aliexpress, and soldered them into my old DS4 V1, to replace the useless original analog ones. These cheapest Hall effect sensor actually can get very well centered, and even the circularity is OK, but the problem is the following: - In Rocket League, when you drive, and steer to 1 direction, the sensor outputs a good, quick signal, and the car turns to the direction. But when you start to steer left-right-left-right quickly in extreme repetition, the sensor unable to keep up with it, because the voltage drop is much slower than for example on the high quality TMR Gulikit sensor, or even on the original analog ones. This will make the sensation jarring and non precise. Moral of the story: for casual gamers even the cheapest hall effect sensor could be acceptable, but for serious, fast paced games, you need the precise ones, like this Gulikit TMR.@@Themarcoalmonte
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Successfully installed these today. Your videos were very helpful in helping me decide on which joystick to get and helping me feel confident I could do it. First time soldering to a circuit board.
Great to hear!
Installed GuliKit TMR kit in my DS4 two weeks ago. The sensors and stick assembly are incredible. They are so smooth and responsive. I believe that they are definitely worth the higher price.
Yes, they are.
Great informative video. Do these tmr modules work better with the thumbsticks they provided, I put the normal dualsense thumbsticks on these modules
The sticks 🕹️ look quality they provide with a metal slide bush sleeve by the looks of what I've seen.
Any height or stick diameter change will change how your muscle 👍🏼 memory feels actuating the tilt range response curve.
If you're going to use the standard sticks made of plastic that can possibly get shaft wear lines, you might want to try the silicone sleeve savers I've recently used on my DS4's then do the
(DualShock Calibration GUI)
if the range is slightly 🤏🏼 short.
(Noting the Dualsense has replaceable friction rings the DS4 does not)
Always temporarily test it first to avoid odd results in calibration.
Not all Hall Effect side pots translate the information equal & flipping the magnetic pole can set them up for other controllers 😉🤫.
The Ginfull stand alone sides designed for easy switching on Alps frames for example will get the positive + axis circularity shrunk to suit as expected but the negative - side stayed square 🟥 🤷🏼♂️.
I'm not finished experimenting with it just yet but the magnets are bessed set central to the standing position.
The pendulum motion of it swinging to far over the chip makes the outer tilt response exponentially more sensitive.
It's a proximity thing not so linear by its nature.
That's why I'm looking at this vid or considering the orange Ginfull units with radial magnets that terminate to points.
It probably results in a more linear magnetic 🧲 field ⚛️🧭 fall off, not such an abrupt change to the outer reading 🤷🏼♂️.
Hi, maybe I missed it, but I didn’t hear a clear answer about power draw compared to the original sticks.
Do you have any readings from the originals to compare with?
I’d love to know if these are more or less efficient than the regular potentiometer sticks.
Original potentiometers are 2.1 K or 2.3 K ohm with a 20% tolerance, so at worst around 1 milliamp per axis and best about 650 microamps per axis.
Really good explaintation. thanks man.
Glad you liked it
So let me get this straight. From what I've heard, TMRs have a thing called "quantum tunneling". Which would mean that it would attract another magnet from through the white plastic part of the TMR to the magnet unlike hall effects 🤔
Just installed sensors and left stick works fine but right stick input got stuck at about 40% on the x axis. Not sure if it's my poor workmanship on the soldering and cleaning. But it was working fine for about an hour.
Resolder and try
Impresive numbers on the Tmr sensors. If you order 100packs they cost 50% less $.
Has anyone ever done Aim Labs testing with some of these joysticks to see which one actually has better results? On paper better doesn’t always completely transfer over just because there is so many factors, just curious
These are nice and all, but I'm not sure the cost is worth it. There's not much more going on inside, so I don't really understand why the cost is 4-5 times more. For the DIYer, the difference between $5 and $15 isn't bad, but for the repair shops it can be a deal breaker. If I charge $25 for a typical hall effect repair, now I gotta charge $40 or more to use TMRs. Hard to justify for some.
The Aliexpress GuliKit store does list some bulk lots. It's still more expensive than the Hall, but If the customer wants the best, they will have to pay a bit more for it.
I bought them for 6 bucks with the welcome deal... if you don't have anything better on what to use it. It's great!
Creative video, thanks :)
Glad you liked it!
can we replace them on any potentiometer controller ?
Only if the power and ground pins are in the correct location. If looking at the outside of the sensor with the leads down, the ground is the left lead and power is the right lead. This is why there are different versions for the DualSense and DualShock4.
Are these better than hall effects?
I think so.
Yes they are, I have a ps5 controller with Hall effect sensors and another one with a TMR sensor, TMR are definitely better
@@southernstyle8835 thank you
@@southernstyle8835im curious, in your experience, how so?
I bought the cheapest DS4 compatible pair of Hall Effect sensors on aliexpress, and soldered them into my old DS4 V1, to replace the useless original analog ones.
These cheapest Hall effect sensor actually can get very well centered, and even the circularity is OK, but the problem is the following:
- In Rocket League, when you drive, and steer to 1 direction, the sensor outputs a good, quick signal, and the car turns to the direction. But when you start to steer left-right-left-right quickly in extreme repetition, the sensor unable to keep up with it, because the voltage drop is much slower than for example on the high quality TMR Gulikit sensor, or even on the original analog ones. This will make the sensation jarring and non precise.
Moral of the story: for casual gamers even the cheapest hall effect sensor could be acceptable, but for serious, fast paced games, you need the precise ones, like this Gulikit TMR.@@Themarcoalmonte
I just order 1 pair to test on my Scuf reflex fps. I don't like the FU hall effect analogs, the spring inside is the problem for me.
If you don't like the harder spring then you might want to try the Ginfull V5, they are much softer.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Ok, thanks 👍
Sensei why i'm playing with 12 sensetivity with TMR but with old Alps sticks it was 4
Have you looked at your Gamepad tester to make sure it’s ranges are accurate?
@@ChummyBoy yes, it's accurate
Sensei does it work great with xbox controllers too?
Series S/X controllers yes, as they're the only one's that you can calibrate. I've done three controllers so far and all work great!
You can technically install them in an Xbox One controller but there's no way to calibrate the sticks.
no wonder GuliKit TMR joysticks cost twice as much as Ginfull Hall Effect ones
But gulikit is worth the money.
I have them installed in my ps5 and yes it’s worth it
The IC between the two capacitors appears to be a differential amplifier.