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Hate to point out but if slow counts as CC, then theres not 5 that dont have CC, theres only 1 Draining kiss on sylveon slows Dragon breath on dragapult slows Acrobatics on Inteleon slows Leaf blade on leafeon slows Now, they dont always run the moveset that includes the CC, but really its only scyther that doesnt have CC, and thats only because scizor does and its the same character, so really, there is no individual license in unite where there is a build that has no CC

Giving development rights to timí was big mistake tïmi cares more about thier own games and haults updates of others games .... Hok get new content daily even Pokemon unite china gets lots of content

Not going to lie after playing hok i felt the duration of stuns in Pokemon unite is way way too much .... I play mostly warriors which have all-rounders like play-style and difference is way too much in Pokemon unite u cannot even move as an all-rounder in some games

I mean I’d argue gardevoir’s cc is pretty needed for its gameplan, although it is definitely overturned. Both of gardevoirs damage dealing moves rely on your opponent being in one place for a while to work properly, and without any form of cc you would need to read exactly what they’re going to do at all times, which I think is an unnecessarily high skill requirement, gardevoir can do high damage but plenty of mons can do similar damage by just mashing a. Having a slow and stun gives opportunities to line up psyshock and future sight better. 1.2 seconds on moonblast is still crazy though, I don’t think her stuns are particularly well balanced, but I do think they’re important to her kit. The worst offender is just unite move, it was fine when it was a longer cooldown as this super impactful thing that can wipe entire teams, but only be used very rarely. So if she missed it was a big deal. But then they made it not only work better but also one of the shortest cooldowns in the game????? Genuinely don’t know what they were thinking, it’s kinda broken.

irrelevant but the psychic solare + solar beam at 27:28 looked cool lol

thats not a fair judgement, if someone can coordenate an attack like this they deserve to win, but in reality, there is a reason why you dont hear pro players like Chrisheroes and spragels talking about it, heck you dont even see it happen in tournament. It just doesnt work like that, if the enemy is together to try to CC the team the most common strategy is to let they do so, having the enemy together is a huge advantage to the opposing team, because you can not only calculate their position after that but you can also steal their farm, and getting ready for the final fight is the goal of the game. A team that walks together to stay safe has very much to lose, they need to share xp, while the other team can separate and get most of it to them. Also, you should check the stats of these pokemon because pokemons that have a bit more of stun on their team also have less damage or more cooldown on their moves, we do have a few pokemons that are stronger than others, but overall, unite is very balanced. Im not saying that the game has just the right ammount of CC, but im saying you should focus more on learning how to play instead of coming up with strategies that are not even viable, because i didnt even start talking about what will happen to a team full of CC after their ranks are broken or when they are caught by surprise while farming (even if it is a 2 CC against a no CC pokemon)

Appreciate the info dump. I knew stuns were a major part just through gameplay but the sheer amount of them and how many Mons carry them in their kits is insane. Appreciate the work 👍🏼 Also that would be sick if you got to cast at Worlds!

I don't play HOK, but I did touch it really quickly at the beginning before not touching it ever again. Doesn't each character in HOK have a damage move and a stun move? Is that normal for moba games for every character to have stuns?

Oh me, I’m a good boy, that’s just as much of a problem as the stuns And yeah I’m answering a question from the video so don’t be shocked at this comment dear reader

I stopped playing a while ago because of how much cc this game has. I left right after Clefable was released and it was cuz I spent 5 entire matches just being targetted with CC. I would spawn, play the game a bit, then get CC'd to death after everyone got their CC. And it happened over and over. I would end up like 2/3 levels lower than everyone because I would just spawn and die when rejoining the team. Like it wasnt me playing badly, I was just the only healing support and they needed to kill me. So I would get everything + the kitchen sink thrown at me.

One tricking a role is the best way to play imo in any moba

no

Why is Cleffable allowed? Gravity completely makes Scizor useless and if you see one they will dedicate their move for when they see you.

Hot take but I don't think the stuns are so egregious that the whole effing roster needs to be reworked. A lot of the CC is pretty insignificant and if you're of adequate skill then you know better than to just rush in and get CC-chained until you die. Granted sometimes that'll happen anyways because it's a very unpredictable game and you will get caught out every now and then, but my point stands. It feels like the same deal as the infamous Goodra; it only does well against people that are stupid enough to keep standing right in front of him and continuously give him 40% regen every five seconds as your ranged allies are sobbing behind you wishing you would just walk away already so I can KO him damnit Lucario you are NOT HELPING AHHHHHH ...Ahem. Sure, a lot of the CC might feel kind of unnecessary, (and I do think some of the more intense stuns could stand to be toned down a bit) but would the game even be that fun to play if only 10% of the roster could slow or stun? Fuck no! The biggest part of the appeal to me is how every mon has its own unique gameplay. Literally what would differentiate Chandelure, Delphox and Gardevoir if they didn't have their unique CC? Your choice in Mon would boil down to "I think this one is cooler" since those three would all just deal damage at range. What I really think would help here is a damn buff to full heal, and pink emblems. Pink emblems especially because if you use those you are straight up trolling and that is a fact. They are completely worthless and their effects are indistinguishable from not having them. That is embarrassing design. And full heal because that's a speedster's lifeline when dividing those pesky back liners in those critical fights. One thing I've also noticed as a day one player is the meta will shift back and forth constantly between "there's too much CC, I can't move for five whole seconds and then I die!" and "there's too much CC immunity, I'm a sitting duck in all my games!" so I get the feeling as more patches come out and new mons get released, eventually we'll be complaining about how every meta pokemon can do whatever they want because you can't stun them. It's just the cycle of balance.

poor greedent looks so lonely on the CC heavy vs likely to appear chart 😭

Pokemon i hate going up against: Trevenant. It's a tank. I get that, but it can take forever to take down. It doesn't help when it can shove + stun you and heal with the horn leech move. Next is Buzzwole. Screw Leech Life. It holds you for too long and can completely heal itself. Mean Look Umbreon keeps you trapped for too long. Gyarados can now paralyze you with its dragon breath somehow in this new anniversary update and Gyarados does too much damage in general. Goodra with dragon pulse that completely heals it. Mimikyu with its spammable stun moves. Which is all of them in some way. And lastly a good Sableye player, need I explain that?

The problem started when full heal got nerf .. full heal was soo damn good to counter stun Pokemons but now 😢

Yooo

PokéStun Unite LOL

One tricks aren't that big of a problem. I have more issues with people fighting for middle experience early game.

This is peak autism 63 MINUTES LET'S GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!1!

I've said this since, like the first season of Pokémon. Unite the fact that they just front load so many Pokémon. With so many ways to just debilitate you or straight up. Stop you from playing the game. And there are no options to counteract or fights. The debilitating abilities that Pokémon have and then the only option that was relevant useful and impactful was then nerved further for no justifiable reason makes 0 sense when you play Pokémon unite. There's a lot of problems with the game, but one of the bigger issues is the simple fact that. You are forced to choose a Pokémon with crowd control, slow or some form of. A debilitating move, because if not you just lose I mean, league of legends has multiple ways to fight against heavy crowd, control characters, and there are multiple different types of playstyles to deal with debilitating abilities.

Thought this was just a moba thing. My friends have said that mobas live and die by cc but...apparently unite just has a shit ton of cc afterall

As a meowscarada main i genuenly thought it was a skill issue or my build was just not cutting it but it's actually a legitimate issue in the game. If this isn't fixed soon i'll probably just quit and only come back when it's fixed

Yea playing greninja is hell, getting bounced by most ults and then a venu 3rd stage basic hitting you straight after is painful

Add merc treads to Unite lol

Smokebomb can give CC to the five pokemons without CC move, so yeah everything have CC.

The way I IMMEDIATELY agree when i saw the video title

It’s not, just Pokémon UNITE it’s most Japanese maid games Asians love stuns

Hell, even the ray stun

One time I got stunned continuously and flew like REALLY high in the air because the enemies all ganged up on me, I remember specifically there were Mr mime, Snorlax and Mamoswine involved in it 💀

Well, if everything is op it's probably balanced

As a person who is a ninetales main I do feel my opponent especially melee feel so much pain but you cant completely remove stuns but stuns could be rework but Anyone who plays fire spin delphox I want to grab by the neck and throw him to the moon

It is so nice to hear someone talk about stuns in this game, so frustrating

Stuns should only be given to defenders

Big views on the huskyvision

Sounds like someone just needs to get gud, Womp wompppp

I think it's just a weird situation. There are certainly arguments to reduce the CC in the game but I think that would require some huge reworks in other places in the game. For example, ONLY heavily nerfing CC, and giving either no or small amounts of compensation would ruin immobile mages and attackers who aren't able to survive being dove by all rounders or speedsters. Getting oneshot without any counterplay by a Leafeon/Talonflame/Mimikyu/Falinks etc is just as non-interactive as being CC'ed for 5 seconds straight as one of those mons. They would force attackers as a class to either be very long range, very mobile, or keep the CC to be playable. And if a mon cannot be one of those things (Hi Pika and A9) they aren't playable. One can say, "well a better balanced teamcomp avoids that" And that's true but also realistically it's still gonna feel bad when the tank cannot save a carry from 2-3 divers at once and the attacker gets one shot by the one who sneaks thru the CC. On that note I think if damage as a whole was nerfed, so that you'd have to be consistently ahead to oneshot enemies on more damage heavy roles like all rounder/speedster, then the nerfs to CC or adjustments could be more power neutral. Still would be a lot of growing pains for attacker mains but at least they'd get to play the game. And forces speedsters to do more/be better in order to get the games they want Supports and Tanks should keep their CC though because that's their job. Half the reason Goodra and Greedent are terrible tanks (and fake all rounders) is that they can't really protect their teammates nor do the damage to justify not being a tank. Mime keeping the CC makes sense because what else does he do as a "support" or in these days mostly as a "tank". I'd argue the same for Sableye because the mon need something to keep him distinct from other supports. Not to mention the non-sableye supports are already just healbots or seen as tanks (Mime/Wigglytuff) having no CC just limits how supports are unique in what they do.

I'm not sure if this counts but Zeraora also has a pull with his Discharge at a certain range. A little understated but some people time it with volt switch

Oh I just wish that they'll add a support that nullifies the effects of ccs,,..

buff pink emblems, full heal & tenacity, more tenacity for all rounders involved into the Inner Focus ability on main games (Dnite, Luca, Umbreon & Kubfu) & mons with access to priority block moves should be on the list too; more Tsareena treatments!

Thank you for the insightful video! I believe that this level of stun should be able to be countered by a larger portion of the roster, and items like full heal and boost emblems should be more viable. I hate getting destroyed in .5 seconds because i got stunned to death before i could use wide guard

Long comment incoming; I haven't finished the vid yet, but i feel like a bunch of the cc abilities are just too easy to do, Pikachu literally has 2 sure hit moves that slows and stun, they should rework volt tackle into dash, giving a bit of a mobility to pika could be nice. Mewtwo has psystrike which is just dumb, it's a sure hit move that slows, stun *AND* gives you unstoppable(it shouldn't give you unstoppable idk why they gave him that💀, just give unstoppable at lvl 11 upgrade or sum) Moonblast isn't sure hit but it's still very easy to land, maybe they can make the hitbox smaller or make the projectile slower That's why i think stuns like Telekinesis is okay cause it's mostly a skillshot (i know i seem to have Slowbro bias with pfp and all that but uhhh) Overall just make the stuns harder to achieve i think Also there should be an item that basically works like an eeveelution passive or something Also also they should separate the two Attackers in the game (marksman(cinder/deci/ninja) and mages (fox/a9/garde) there's no reason to put them in the same box, idk how that would fix the game, it's just something that bothers my tiny brain Also also also, subscribed :D

Babe wake up, husky posted another banger

ah nice about 60% of the video is about every stun

I've played since day one and knew one day we'd get Decidueye because you need a sniper and the only other one we had was "too new" for Unite at the time, but I was pleasantly surprised when Mamoswine was added because I hadn't been keeping up with the news at the time, I remember back when they had him evolving into his final stage at level 10, now I think he is at such a good spot in the middle of the road that with as well as I know him I can pull off some crazy plays but only because I know how to use him to his best benefit because I've played with him since he released, Even if Decidueye is my favorite, Mamo is my main for sure At this point in the game I use a resonant guard, Weakness policy, and rapid-fire scarf item set with a 6 white/brown emblem set based around HP, If I want to go for absolute bulk when we don't have a supporter I will replace the scarf with the Aeos Cookie, but I like the boost to basic attack speed and the stun that it adds because of the CC he has and I plan on changing up my emblem set to maybe incorporate a triple six defense and HP based build or maybe some HP and cooldown so I can get my moves off and still use the scarf to get freezing off on my boosted basic attacks

This video is triggering my PTSD

Hey husky, loved your breakdown and your analysis stuns are obviously a huge problem in the game I feel there should be some counter-play or make it a bit tricky to land stuns so the games need more skill based play. I am shocked to your see your subs, girl you deserve more! Another problem I usually face is jungle invading, I had played 6 games today and 4 of my games have my jungle invaded early in the game, two of the games had 3 of my allies competing for jungle at the beginning of the game none of them level up to 7 until 5 minutes of the game, so as expected all four of those games are total disasters. I mainly play soloQ and usually play carry builds on mon to fight and destroy goals but yeah it has become a tedious situation as my jungle gets invaded all the time, can you please consider making a video of your analysis regarding the strategies for jungle, which mon can take advantage of it most? I'm sure that there are people who doesn't know how to navigate throughout the game and do it at random but the impact on the game is heavy

Good stuff 👍

8:19 you forgot that after a boosted attack and when the move discharge ends it stuns and pulls enemy towards zeraora