I am one of those 40% players. Believe me those winning percentage can be deceiving. I played with players who are 52% but has 0 map and situational awareness. Let us not even get started with the duo or tripple que.
@@BarnzTTwinrate percentage is everything tbh. I have almost 56% in only comp matches with over 2k matches. I can easily tell when someone has a high winrate or not.
It's so intriguing as well how patch notes affect this psychology: a player can see a 5 attack nerf, and lose all confidence in executing things they still can, and then lash out and tilt from seeing the accursed "stat decreased"
Literally falinks still being strong but it’s wr being horrendous, then absol being a mediocre assasin and it’s wr being positive, it’s actually insane how players just don’t have any discipline towards playing a character well, bc the game doesn’t give you any reason to do so, you always can play something broken and easier than maining blaziken for example, they just want to go full braindead meta and then complain bc their teammates are bad, even tho they don’t improve at all bc they never challenged themselves (nor does the game challenge them), this is normal in every single game, even I must have suffered this, but unite is way too radical about this, the game doesn’t have a good design when it comes to a character’s kit and the meta itself.
@valentinperez1756 falinks is arguable to pick because even though it's good rn(although I cannot guarantee it because I haven't used it post nerfs) it has counter picks like lucario or venusaur,you can simply pick blaziken or ceruledge and get better results and another thing is people like to play favorite mons like cinderace and greninja which you see often unlike Duraludon whose pick rate is lowest even though it's strong under right hands
I watched the entire video and related to everything said in the video Here’s one thing I really don’t see anyone talking about: breaking the goal before 8 min. Sure you broke their goal zone but many still don’t realize breaking the goal gives the enemies indeedees to farm and suddenly the enemies are much higher leveled because you gave them a bunch of experience. Also breaking the goal gets rid of your own baltoys and indeedees on your side this is bad when your laner is Ttar or chomp who needs experience. Anyways, I appreciate anyone who read this long ass comment
@@silly_gon this is such a great point, maybe I can do some deep dive into the scoring mechanic of unite and bring in some cool math psych to talk about this. Thank you for the great idea!
A piggyback on this is when you do break goal people will break with 5 points for 4 left rather than somebody with 30 points. As an all rounder main picking up t tar (because Machamp is just impossible to play right now) I appreciate this.
@@gimik2593i just play it as a jungle, get both boost, and i use D-cross and D-punch as moves. My personal kit is the weights,the sharp claw and the megaphone.
it’s a pokémon game, so the majority of the player base by default will be casual. unite has two game modes: casual and ranked. i can only speak for myself, but originally i used to play on casual. until i noticed losing once or twice in a row would put me in a bot match. now i just play ranked by default, because i know that i’ll be playing with REAL people. i just want to play a multiplayer game. i also suspect that many people feel the same; you don’t hear it as much anymore but often you’d see people saying “ranked is just standard.” the game doesn’t do a good job of promoting self-improvement or reflection for players, but genuinely i think if casual wasn’t so horrible, people would play it. leaving ranked for people who DO want to improve.
I feel like one of the biggest flaws starts from the beginning, the test bots. Notice how bots in bot games have a very simple directive that goes against everything the community says. They prioritize Regieleki at 7 minutes, they do not take middle Altaria, they break goals as fast as possible, and most of all, they prioritize capping at 2 minutes over the objective. They learn from these bots and do what they do. Unite really needs to make the bots better or a portion of the younger audience will follow their strategy.
Pokemon Unite as a whole encourages this. Most people get MVP for doing this. Since assisting in kills and letting other people score doesn't count as a good play (from the game's eyes) Which is quite discouraging
another addition is how the game is so centralizing in the last 2 minutes, ive had games where me and my team are amazing. absolutely destroying the enemy team for 8 minutes straight. But then at Rayquaza that one guy who sat in a bush all game gets the last hit and we insta-lose despite playing more skillfully. Effectively rewarding laziness and playing pokemon that just steal objectives or rip them as fast as possible.
If you already won the match don't need to take down ray just defend it from being taken down or else suffer a L from players like that and another is those losses are deserved why the heck all 5 players need to be attacking ray. one needs to route perimeter and 2 one needed to stop fighting for a second to check perimeter. It's laziness from ya part just because the game is a hold a button that's it doesn't mean you stop doing other things that help you secure the W from the start to finish, that where the skill falls out in unit too many players don't have skills in this game and think oh one player hiding in bush is lazy it's not. One player can't beat 5 players alone especially seeing his teammates being taken down it was the better call for that moment if the players can't do anything helping taking down doesn't work. Hiding in the bushes is nothing wrong inteleon is designed for it and deye another for it and Venusaur is also while using solar beam few others that are so, if you lack knowledge of this then it's nobody fault but you're own for no checking the bushes before and during Rayquaza. Timi had this in mind a long time ago when goodra uses the bushes to heal. With this I am saying we need to stop complaining as a community and simply get better and accept the fact that the pokemon unit brings different play styles in the game and Mostly players who come here are players who play cod or any other game doesn't require or force team play. Just the way it is. Been like this ever since.
@@cloud-se4oo the game is more strategetic than stratagic games cuz unite is deemed as action i suppose and also when defending ray if youre team is winning the other teams lvl must be low so i guess 12 or 13 their revival time would be arnd 20 seconds so well have to fight them 5 times or so and after dying their unite charges considerably which gives them more chance to win by using unites in the crct order which is so annoying to deal with and bcuz even if my team is winning we go for ray but then a cinderace is in a frickin bush
@@Zaultreyak I main cinder, it's unit takes few seconds to load out if you can cancel or eliminate him won't be much a bother. Yes true but the moment the other side goes to respond those 20 seconds are useful to go back and heal up again and set up the defense better. If two faces one it won't be able to do anything due to cc. Not to mention every team needs a great attacker if so then forget that the other team having its unit ready won't be able to do anything due suppressing fire from attackers and supporters helping. I'd play enough especially with players who automatically understand this won the match holding on 2 minutes, heck if when the enemy teams are all responding those 20 seconds are enough to take out Rayquaza very quickly between all 5 helping. It's all about positioning one or two needs to be on top and the others in front of Rayquaza. The problem here is most players do defend but get in the Rayquaza zone where they take damage slowing and top of the enemies team damage that's where skills and understanding of unit players fail most of the time. It's possible to hold it just to need skills and understanding which many lack only few do. Don't forget mostly nowadays when they see lock down defense some will give up and stop playing making it an easy path. It's all skill and how strong the mind is. Timi didn't miss around when making this game forcing players to have a strong mind set. Too many are soft due to cod fortnite and other games made to many people weak minded at least i see it that way.
@@cloud-se4oo But even if you dont need Rayquaza to win, your Teammates might attack it regardless and set up a possible flip for the Enemy Team. Or worse both teams lose like 3-4 of there memebrs in a early Ray fight and it becomes a lose-lose scenario where your too low HP and resources to Score incase the surviving enemies retreated to there Goals, and you have too little firepower to burst down Rayquaza and the enemy team can come in for Round 2 and make the comeback
@@drxavier1870 nah I seen and done it myself all alone with nobody left from neither side I burst down ray all by my self. With cinder I do when it's hp is have way use blaze kick or pyro than use faith for quick healing and boost basic speed than use almost at the end unit move for more power and quicker basic speed. Even with melee I did it myself and few others have done it. It's like I said too many lack mind set and skills to do anything right in this game it gets tiring overtime.
One thing that I think is a big part of it is this is Unite is so heavy on working as a team but communication is scarce and most people have different priorities. You can ping "Let's defeat Registeel!" all you want but 9/10 times your pings will be completely ignored. Some people think the pressure of Regieleki is more valuable than the healing over time from Regice. Some junglers will ditch the team fight for their newly spawned jungle buffs every time while other junglers will leave their buffs up for full minutes because they think it's more important to defend the goal that three opponents are collapsing on. Some players spend most of the game scoring in the opposite lane of the team fight because they take the premise "scoring is how you win" too literally and other players never take the chance to score because they're so busy fighting the whole time. And the worst part is "the right call" in any given moment changes all the time. What worked in the last match will be your demise in the next one, and a lot of players get tunnel vision or too stuck in their habits to recognize that ultimately, what wins games is working as a team and tackling things together.
This is why I feel that the voice chat should be unbanneable, you should be able to silence somebody in specific but they shouldn't get their mic blocked because of that, for me, it will be always preferable to just be able to communicate properly instead of using such a limited quick chat
As mainly defender main (prefer to not die after single mistake/sudden stun from enemy), it's so frustrating at times to see teammate on lane do whatever but gain exp and score at good time, be on the opposite side of map with charged Unite moves instead of making sure that Rayquaza (usually play ranked to get to a cap of seasonal rewards, not a single wish of grinding to the top with matchmaking given) won't be slaughtered by opponents, quit mid game and so much more. Being a defender main and playing solo is painful at times
I feel this, but I play almost of the time all the roles I have seen my team at times run at Ray with two teammates while I'm on the other side due to the fact I'm trying to score and run back to them but they just run in and die I got no idea why they do when the foe is not even paying attention to Ray and killing them
that's one of the main reasons I stopped playing Bliss, a support or defender's impact (in most cases anyway) is in direct relation to their team's capabilities, which makes it a lot worse to play in solo
Ehh there’s a whole other side to it though. I’m a casual player and only have two choices: 1. Play a standard match w/ bots (no fun.) 2. Play in ranked and end up bothering the competitive players. It’s fun for me, but we lose every time I’m forced to use a defender, which is a significant portion of my matches. Wish there was a way to disable bot matches 💔💔
Earned a sub from me. I started playing in January and have been enjoying the casual aspect of Unite so far. I played a lot of MOBAs in my heyday, so Unite scratches the itch without commiting massive hours like in LoL and Dota. The most frustrating thing is people not understanding that game so far. There's a lot going on under the hood that players have to dig for to understand, so that barrier to entry alone is enough for some to run choice specs on dragapult and still run leftovers.
@@Wizardofexisting thank you for your support! I find unite to be very accessible, which is great, but it also means players may assume there’s not much to understand about it.
Unite is a game where competitive players MUST play with casual players without having an opinion about it. That is why we suffer so much and they are just happy walking around and pressing buttons.
1 high rated player and 4 low rated players against 5 medium rated players. This reminded me as I am part of the medium rated players and the enemy team had an Absol that seems to throw the game. But their Gengar. I was told he was the 13th best Gengar Player in the world. And his skills are very terrifying. Unfortunate for him, he lost the game though due to our team sticking together a lot and as a Slowbro, I focused on the Gengar as much as I can. It's a REALLY weird experience to be up against a terrifyingly strong Gengar player.
I noticed as a player of 2 years, especially looking at twich streams, loads of kids. Nothing wrong for kids, but there are a lot. I started viewing it as how many kids are in this match vs why are my team mates trash. There are good and bad players all ages. Too many old heads "need to play meta." Also I VPN between South Korea and US totally different play styles. Korea quick plays have more Bot accounts and all move in a pact which could cause top or bottom scoring leaving opens for back caps or solo npc farms. US typically are meta and I can solo tank against 2 or 3 players. Both sides dont like to score and opt for kills, which doesn't get wins. It seems who ever can level up and fastest wins. Dynamic playing isn't really thought about. 2v2 a player faints, and the other opts to tank and when the player who fainted returns the other faints. Leaving a 1v2 drip feed for enemy exp farming. Not many players look at maps either. I often find 4 top 1 bottom lane. Or seeing a friendly 3 v 2 enemy and frienldy cannot knock out enemies for several minutes.
A problem with Unite ranked is that there is a limit to how far you can fall. You can stop playing for years and boot back up to find you are still in veteran. This puts all of the burden on team balance on the weird matchmaking as you explained. Other games have 6-7 big ranks but we have 3.
As for Pokemon with incorrect items, screw just giving a message. Just make completely incompatible items impossible to equip. If I'm on the held items screen for a Physical Attacker, Wise glasses shouldn't even come up on my screen.
girl, I totally agree. I quit unite in season 1 after I hit masters because there was no reason to continue playing, no goals. I came back last month and nothing changed besides a new map that had me wonder what happened to dreadnaw and rotom. at least no more zapdos ptsd. I've had players who start rayquaza as soon as it spawns regardless if we are in the lead or not.
When everyone selects attacker, but 1 has something else, call out to pick a attacker and just roll with it. I should prep a attacker with left overs....
As someone who uses to play specs Duraludon and Greninja (I thought they were special attackers like in main series, somehow managed to ignore the message saying they were attack based), I apologize profusely.
I hate it when I blame other players (although sometimes yeah) but I enjoy it when I can acknowledge when I do a bad play because it makes me feel like I'm actively trying to be better at the game
Honestly this video has put a lot of insight that I never really have taken the time to reflect on. Before Unite I came from playing fighting games competitively (which I still do), and it's taught me to hold myself accountable for my skill. This carried over to unite and thinking about it, I feel like I would be worse off without that mentality with me. I wouldn't have gotten better without it. I've also found myself victim to tilt and continuing to play, but despite that I still try to accomodate for my team and play the best I can. That said, the unite playerbase is questionable at best and it sucks because you can play well but then your team screws you up by many misplays. Hell sometimes trying to accomodate a role for your team screws you over as you've said because you need to trust your team. Supporters and to a much lesser extent tanks rely on your teams and I typically play defender. I feel so helpless because I need to rely on my team to get the most out of the role. I really wish that the unite playerbase can have some concept of accountibility since the nature of the game makes it hard for one to reflect on their own skill. Hopefully my blabbering added something and I prolly missed to mention some important things and details.
@@metaman9952 I feel like usually players who fill for the team are the ones who understand more about the game itself, I’m gonna do a video soon diving more into roles bc I’m interested in that. But yeah it’s hard not to tilt, even the most positive people tilt but I feel like good players will point out bad plays of their team while also acknowledging when they make mistakes too, so I’ve been trying to do that more. Thanks for your insightful comment!
@@huskystar77 Looking forward for more educational content for unite from you since it fills a very empty part of unite content creation. I always liked watching educational videos in my spare time, especially those that relate to my interest towards my electrical and computer engineering major.
@@metaman9952 hey no way buddy! I have an ECE bachelors degree! I do engineering research now, which is why I love all this stuff. Glad to meet a fellow ECE!
2:03 unite biggest problem since day 1. The only game that thinks putting a "GM" player with 4 "bronze" players against 5 "platinum" players is fair and fun
Currently on a 16 game win streak climb to masters so far so I’m not complaining lol. There’s definitely been some sweaty games on my part when I get the rough teams but yeah I’ve definitely seen a huge drop in skill with the player base.
I think another aspect that plays along with “don’t worry about it just mistakes it’s alright” is catchup exp. I had a game where a snorlax and I (machamp T-T Temi pls help) were absolutely dominating a cureledge and Mr mime the first two minutes of the game. We killed them both, took some of their farm, got birds, and scored once or twice, so it’s really tough when a jungler mewtwo showed up 1v3ed me, snorlax, and the jungler and because ceruledge was in the vicinity of the kills apparently is now a higher level than me and my lanner. I don’t think it should be removed entirety, but it feels like so easy any advantage/good plays you make while laning can just be throw in the gutter which feels awful. I would suggest maybe a cap on the amount of catch up exp because it can be ridiculous at times.
I think part of it is due to them not wanting to clarify that while some items have positive effects outside of their stat boosts that specific items are required to use other Pokémon well and while in the mainline games those items might have other uses they're thinking that the Pokemon company is just going to roll over and keep that same ideology of all of their items which I appreciate the fact that they were willing to change it up and spice things up for us but then those that decide that they don't need to read anything are just to innane to actually figure out the rest of the game
I can't describe how many time i tried to beat my head at the wall frustrated of losing because of f**king bad team and sometimes just throwing the game even though wining early . Its just the peak of destroying my inner peace . As a solo queue player life in PU is hell
Once I found a girl on in game vc in a soloq quick match during dragon event, she spoke the whole game and nothing she said was related to coordinate or direct the team. She talked about her internet issues (no apologizing for it, despite being aware connection issues may arise), unite picking miraidon for her when she didn't know how to play miraidon (apparently she didn't pick in time) and asked if we were able to hear her. I couldn't carry the 2 people who actually played and ended losing, before you tell me anything, I do recognize made mistakes here and there, though they weren't atrocious as the ones this girl did. Since the start of the match she only farmed, inted, picked bad fights, not join team fights and didn't rotate or defend pads at all, dead weight in other words. I believe this is an interesting piece of information about what goes through the mind of a bad unite player. What I gather from that match is that she doesn't take unite seriously and neither tried to make good plays, only to make a 'aww, we lost? Welp, it is what it is' kind of excuse after losing. All this makes me believe improving and learning more about unite isn't something relevant to her, tho tbh she's just probably playing because it's a Pokémon game judging by her actions.
Heya ! Loved the video ! Unfortunately it is most likely indeed in big part the responsibility of the design direction for the game. The problem being that they tried to make it so players that are better at the game play with people who spent a lot of time on it, banking on a time = skill equation. The big mistake here is they didn't spend enough resources into bringing this time to skill equation to light, preferring a more classic way of feedbacking performance as could be seen in many other mobas.
i think it comes down to a few things 1: they dont actually realize there's a physical and special difference 2: theyre from the main series of games where shadow ball is a special move so they should use the thing that increases special attack, leftovers is one of the best items or the likes 3: genuinely dont know what an item is and is just going with their highest leveled and assumes thats the best, because if you had a list of items, can only bring 3, theyd take the highest level
God, your jungle pinging comment is why I don't jungle. Just, I don't like it in any moba, since the lane that doesn't get ganked always complains. And that messes with my head, that i need to help them, then I get behind in farm, then those guys start to snatch the jungle cause they're upset and its like, yea nah. Edit: And I'm bad at it.
As someone who has 60%wr on ranked only with almost 9k games it turned impossible to play soloQ for the reasons you explained on the video + I'm just above decent, resulting on an awful experience and being even worse when there was no draftmode, so hard to carry people who just want to get Ls apparently since the character selection screen so ended quiting the game when I had only one friend keep playing
Honestly seeing people say they can’t get into masters due to there teammates make me think that they’re also the problem but don’t want to take responsibility. I understand once u hit 1600 because people are more aware of what’s going on plus 3 stacks and duos but anyone should be able to hit masters…
You will have these kind of teammates in master too. It‘s just that getting to master is not that difficult. People get there with a negative wr because of bots in ranked (outside of master) and the activity points or whatever system on top of p2w obtainable rank save cards or whatever they‘re called. While it may be true that in lower ranks there are more players with bs item builds and no plan of the game, it sets you even more apart from these people to carry the Game to a victory. I am a Master player and ive played a new account with half working items and bad pokemon from the lowest rank all the way up to Master with 81%wr. That‘s because there are so many noobs with bad item builds and bot Games in ranked, this was easily achievable. Honestly 95% of the playerbase is in Master, if you‘re not, you‘re either a kid just trying to have fun or you don‘t get the concept of MOBAs at all, which is absolutely fine, just don‘t complain then 😂
@@jmwturneruk i have them on my team but sadly i still carry because I'm the only good player in the lobby -_- if u really having a hard time play trev. he's the perfect mon to help your tm8s while carrying interms of killing things. anyways they won't be in your game 70% of the time so it's still on you if u cant hit masters. it's ok to say you're not good but we learn from these mistakes and get better so u we don't be like that cinder everyone hates.
I think a lot of folks just don't care enough to learn the deeper mechanics. It's a 10 min pokemon game "I like cinder, and if I rip Ray, I win sometimes" and that's as far as they get often times. And they don't read either it seems. I don't think the game should have to hold your hand, just read what specs does. Rant over, great video and topic
I love doing a God level comma inducing gank just for my team to go top lane in Ray fight when theres a 2 players in the enemy team unable to fight. And who is more valuableto ult the LV 15 Dnite that has been killing your team all match or the lv 11 lil timmy scoring who uses his ult on wild pokemon?
I love all your suggestions and totally agree. I think this would help new players and veteran players especially the lane is full suggestion I love that idea so much
My biggest issue is lack of items. I almost always see people who dont have a second or third item. They also need to just give all the emblems outright along with items. It is literal pay to win and the same as the old league runes and pages costing real money.
14:41 Honestly I always wondered what is the exact design philosophy behind the game because yeah you can just say it's Pokémon and be the whole reason but Pokémon games aren't like that, yes you more than ever can beat the main story by bashing your head on the controller but competitive is VERY VERY hard not just hard to play but hard to get into. You need so many knowledge about builds and how to properly train your Pokemon and it's becoming increasingly hard to do that because of the lack of information and making things like breading more obtuse and I can see some of that philosophy in Unite like not explaining what exp share does at all but that clashes with the press one button to win characters in the game and rewarding you just for playing enough time in the main games if you don't have a proper team you wouldn't be able to win even in the most casual singles matches
You can select top, bottom, or center but there's also the secret 4th lane. I play Invader Greedent in solo queue masters and I manage to make friends on both teams. I'll never understand people fighting over jungle or arguing in lane..
I invaded as support mr mime (i won the invade), but for some reason my lane partner (trevenant) was pissed that i left him alone a couple times to steal the enemy jungle and decided to throw the entire match by staying in our jungle the entire game stealing our junglers buffs, not engaging in any fight even though we almost won the ray fight without him and spammed thanks (His game tag was "GreenArrow"). Its insane that people like that can reach Master
Me watching my entire team chase after a 30hp Wigglytuff for half a minute instead of getting Rayquaza (the rest of the enemy team was dead. Rayquaza was fucking free)
The funny thing is most of the bad players are the ones that get the most bot games so that 46% wr meowscarada is mostly playing bot games and STILL has that WR%
TiMi has another MOBA called Honour of Kings where you gain honour points the more you play a specific character. The more honour points you collect, the more stat buffs that character gets. Do you think Unite would benefit or suffer from that?
@@YosiahW it’s hard to say. I think the ribbon system is good, maybe access to a shiny skin or something like that would be enough. I’d be nervous with stat increases just promoting one tricking which would make the current draft system even more difficult. It would be interesting but would require a lot of balancing for sure
Thats hilarious. Idk you but it was recommended. So i said sure why not. Youre a great speaker who chooses gr8 wordage. Kudos to you for voicing opinions that are very plausible. Anyway, i just made a post on the main facebook group about how Unite can be subsided as a Briggs-Meyer/OCEAN test lmfaoooooo
I tried to explain to my friend how much better it would be to just not break goals so early, but his excuse is """the pros do this, so it's the best strat""" Guess I gonna troll him just for that
So, I guess that me consistently keeping a 60% winrate for 5 seasons in a row already and reaching Masters while being a Solo Q player is more of a miracle than actual skill at this point, right?
Hot take but I think that Unite player base is so bad because there hasn't been anyone to have gone viral with playing Unite. All of the current Unite influencers and TH-camrs are doing baby numbers. You go on tye ChrisHeroes, Spragel, Inder channels and they're doing rookie numbers getting 10k-20k views. That signals to me that the people who are part of the competitive Unite community is tiny when compared to the number of players that are in the millions. That is why I think the Unite player base is trash until someone shows up who can do big numbers im talking about millions in views. Only then will the majority of people try to compete and better themselves because there will be an incentive to become the next big influencer. It'll turn Unite from a casual game that kids play on their ipads into an actual cut throat moba
unite makes me mad bc i’m supposedly playing w real people on my team and the enemy team are playing like real people but the people at my team are getting stuck just running into a wall or walking back and forth at spawn and it makes me MAD CUZ HOW ARE THESE REAL PEOPLE HOW CAN U SPEND A WHOLE MINUTE RUNNING INTO A WALL
I quit the game 3 months ago when I was getting back-to-back-to-back games with bots I swear I played against bots more on this game in ranked of all places than playing Co-op modes (that fill bots after 30 seconds) in other mobas
The thing is, the game is not designed nor intended for "good" or "competent" players. Its made for getting as many people playing for as long as possible (not per match, just for paying for stuff.) It's why zapdos and ray are the way they are. Its why EX pokemon were thought of. Its why there is catchup exp. The game purposely is vague on a lot of mechanics. Its why the patch notes are vague in game, its why it doesn't tell you what moves crit, etc. Its not made to be "played", the main goal is to just suck people into the shop, or memberships, etc. If this game was developed as anything other than a mobile game, it would have maybe stood a chance to be deeper, well developed, less grimy, yadda yadda. Its not a moba. Its a cash shop where the attraction is its an easy to pick up game where you play as pokemon.
@@huskystar77 I feel that. Unite is the only moba I’ve ever played. I’d probably have an aneurism if I played DOTA or League. Definitely like chill games like Dreamlight Valley or even Planet Coaster. I’m also a roguelite junkie which has its own level of intensity yet remains somewhat psychologically manageable for some reason imo.
@@huskystar77 love them, especially hades and balatro. also just wanted to say I love what you do! I’ve been burned out on unite for a little while (I’m prob going to jump back in once ex mons are reworked and all) but I really enjoy watching your streams and the emphasis you place on social issues
Dont worry ive been on a 14 game loss streak and im suprised i havent lost my mind yet i legit just got off called it a day and went to play some og sonic XD (Ty to all my backcapping lads that costed me all those games and luv to those who actually tried ❤️)
@huskystar77 unfortunately, but regardless I still play even though I have games like this it does stress me out most of the time but I've played many mobas and other games in general so it's a normal feeling for me I do hope they add what you mentioned like how held items that don't effect said Mon will be shown to the player giving them insight on what items to properly use and maybe the recommended builds have 3 different sets to kinda show what's good on a Mon 😀
I feel like alot of players just don't know what the objective of the game is. I started playing two months ago. Tested some Pokemon. Went with Leafeon und got to veteran 2 with over 95% wr within 3 days. I never played a mobile moba before, just lol until 2021.
Here's a proverb I live by: "It's easier to convince yourself you're right than to prove yourself wrong." Where'd I find it? I made it up! That being said, I wish Unite took itself more seriously... it has the potential to be my favorite moba ever, but this game doesn't push its players to improve enough imo. It's too easy to get hooked into bad habits...
this is what you can do play laning carry play laning carry just keep laning carry and hope you can get to masters there will always be games where all 4 of your teamates dont farm tho so even ifyoure level 15 you lose
People need to be automatically punished for idling during the match IDK if it's 4 seconds and they should let us only play one role on a team to better balance it
problems with Unite: - the tutorials (or lack there of) are dog sh*t - players don't know the main tactics and strategies - players don't know how to play their pokemon - the report system is trash - probably the worst match making i haver seen
i think the playerbase has such a bad Blame Game problem, but the actual flow of unite battles is extremely unintuitive and imho an absolutely terrible place to try and learn the actual macro of MOBAs for first time players (which a fat chunk of unite players are)
@@chucklesticmccormick5828 honestly yeah I’m with you, it’s very easy to get into the game. And like I said, it’s so much easier to blame everyone else, and since people aren’t actually learning the game, why wouldn’t they blame everyone else yk
@@huskystar77 yep, AND most of all anytime theyre tuning in to see big content creators its 90% of the time good players actually fighting an uphill battle against the MMR system "oh there are just these bad players who run bad items in like 25% of all games, clearly its all the matchmaking and not at all these couple of minor mistakes i made that snowballed the game!" when in reality 45% of games are lost in one miscalculation at ray 🕴🫡
I don't Blame the Players, I blame the game. There is no reason to play Defender or support. Putting in points earn you more points at the end than playing correctly with your team. People that don't know how to play such games will not learn with Pokemon Unite. The gameplay is fun but they do a terrible job at teaching it.
I quit unite for good .... Had 60% win rate almost every season some seasons even higher and never played broken ex mons too It's too exausting to help bad teammates every single game Will come to unite if matchmaking changes if not it's almost ded to me
So I hate pokemon unite, I attempted to switch from LOL to Unite, but after a few months the competitive got SO stale, idk how you do this... Anyway, love your content!!
If anyones got tips im trying to improve as a solo player and I try to figure out what i shouldve done in said situation during the match. I would absolutely love the input. Like when is it I should be rotating as jungle/attacker/all rounder (im working on a defender atm) Ive been looking at item builds and emblems(still working on these but i can make 6orange,white,green seems like the usual) The mons im playing atm Talon, Gyarados, Garchomp, Aegislash, Delphox, ninetails, and dragapult. Im looking to learning Lapras goodra and trevenant as far as defenders go maybe mamoswine dont know yet. and how should we react when the game is being lost. from what ive heard its to stick together and continue farming the best we can, and take an opportunity when the enemy team slips up. Idk what else im forgetting but this comments already long😅
from what im understanding, when the top and bottom objectives is its normally time to start seeing where my team is and what they're doing and then on the game kinda like rotates the objectives?
Would totally check out UniteClimbingGuide who has a lot of great videos on these topics if you’re not already subbed to him! The best thing you can do is keep playing and be willing to learn:)
Im using roles more to illustrate lanes, since in solo you might go top as attacker, bot as allrounder etc. When i say attacker i mean bot laner and allrounder i mean top laner. So jungle rotations in the early game: Do first jungle rotation, then pick a lane to gank. Three factors to consider: 1) what are you playing, do you need to stack: if so pick a lane where youre more likely to ko the opponents; more often than not you have too much energy to stack otherwise. 2) is there a laner you want to help get online quickly in one of your lanes(gyarados is the best example to illustrate this, if you gank the karp lane and get your karp an assist or kill youve basically won that lane for free) 3) is there something on the enemy team you want to prevent from coming online. After 8:50 altarias, head back to jungle asap for your second rotation, usually around 8:30 or so to do at least both buffs before you head to mid altarias at 8 mins. If the enemy jungler sits in lane you can go to invade their buffs instead of your own, giving your team a free set of jungle exp. Whether you take it or a teammate doesnt matter, its risky but the pay off if it works is huge. Second set of altarias spawn at 7:20, but depending on how your bot lane is doing, you might want to do your third jungle rotation instead to have crucial moves or your unite for bot regi, which is the play 90% of the time in solo for the first set of objectives, especially in west solo q. After that, rotations depend entirely on how the match goes. Try to be there for team fights, dont neglect jungle rotations. For attacker its simple, do lane things, make sure at 8:50 you are set to be there for altaria spawn, have moves ready have close to full hp and arent doing back baltoy. If you want to farm back baltoy you pretty much need to be there at 9 mins when it spawns. If youre late, skip it for altarias, its safe and enemies cant contest unless they snowball altarias. In line with this, dont be on the enemy side of lane after 9:30'ish, this is when fast jungle clearers will gank a lane, agaisnt normal to slow junglers 9:15 is the latest you can hang around. dying at ~9:20 will lose your team mid altarias and by extension usually the lane entirely. At 8:10 is when you should start thinking about going to mid altarias. Usually its the tank and supports job to head there, so attacker can farm lane and defend goal, but in solo q more often than not they wont, and helping jungler win mid altarias could win the early game. At the very least i like heading into L bush to get vision of rotations and then decide where i head to mid or if thats just intinf. Its tough to make the right call here, stay in lane or rotate mid, but worth thinking about at least. Then fight over bot regi. If you lose bot goal at any point, stay on top of farming indeedees when they spawn. Massive exp to help you come back. After bot objective rotate according to what the teams doing and how the game is going. Allrounder - if youre stacking, try to get acouple of stacks early, depending on how the enemy team plays you might not be able to get many or any at all, if thats the case just stay safe and farm, usually not worth dying for a stack. Try to have one of the 2 toplaners defend goal from enemy stackers. Ideally one person stacks the other contests farm in top. Otherwise its similar things to attackers, be ready for 8:50 altarias and jungle gank, decide whether to rotate to mid altarias at 8 mins or not. The key difference to bot lane is honestly post 7:20 altarias. Ideally you want one person to stay top lane and the other to rotate down to bottom objective: the person staying top can 1) get free stacks and experience if the whole enemy team rotates. 2) prevent the enemy team from stacking and getting free experience top 3) contest the farm and more often than not give the bot lane man advantage, especially if the jungler heads to eleki. Under goal you can usually just stall letting your team ideally win bot objective(though yes, in solo they will manage to lose 2 v 4 constantly. Cant base you best play on your teammates being bad though, thats gonna lead to really bad habits). Specifically allrounder pokemon(or pokemon that play the role like stacking trev) things: If jungler overstays in the other lane, you can also invade them after the first set of bees. After the first set of objectives, depending on what allrounder you have and whether youve broken goals you want to at leqst consider split pushing, getting your missing stacks, taking enemy side indeedees and checking their jungle buffs and whether you can steal them. You do still want to be there for important team fights though. In solo you always want to make sure the farm on your side of the map gets cleared frequently and asap, so the next set of farm spawns asap too. If your team is losing hard, make sure you farm indeedees, often times its better to just farm instead of rotating to objectives your team cant win anyway. Always look out for comeback kos, ifyou can get a ko on their jungler or any other high leveled carry, you can instantly come back into the game regardless of how badly you are losing. And yes, it is very worth it to "waste" unites for this KO; The comeback experience you can gain from it is insane. You can gain multiple levels if the level gap is big enough. Long ass message, i know but i hope its of some help. As a side note, for emblems i highly recommend joining the mathcord discord, a lot of amazing emblem loadouts and alternatives there in a dedicated channel. Alternatively, you can check builds on the unite-db website, they have an emblem loadout listed under each item build.
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Why am I pinned 😂
@@NightMare-ik9qn u really hit em up with the Saitama Ok
@@NightMare-ik9qnread the title again with your comment in mind.
@@NightMare-ik9qn it made me laugh
@@huskystar77ok
Unite is so cooked when there are 40% win rate people in master 1600 points, Just beat your head against the wall and you will rank up
@@SilentVinyl hold down A and you’ll get that sticker eventually
@@huskystar77 1600 games max without double exp and 800 games max with double exp and that is if every game was a loss 😆
This is for the golden badge
I am one of those 40% players. Believe me those winning percentage can be deceiving. I played with players who are 52% but has 0 map and situational awareness. Let us not even get started with the duo or tripple que.
@@BarnzTTwinrate percentage is everything tbh. I have almost 56% in only comp matches with over 2k matches. I can easily tell when someone has a high winrate or not.
Trolls have no consequences and being bad at the game with bad builds and blaming everyone else is the meta
@@ashlynnsmith7842 so real
Don't forget Pablo from Mexico who lags out mid game and then proceeds to scream at the team when you all lose 5 minutes later💀
@@jpraise6771that seems, highly specific and borderline racist but ok
It's so intriguing as well how patch notes affect this psychology: a player can see a 5 attack nerf, and lose all confidence in executing things they still can, and then lash out and tilt from seeing the accursed "stat decreased"
Lucario needs his 5 attack back.
@@isnanesavant so real for that, spragels just talked about this and it’s really applicable
Literally falinks still being strong but it’s wr being horrendous, then absol being a mediocre assasin and it’s wr being positive, it’s actually insane how players just don’t have any discipline towards playing a character well, bc the game doesn’t give you any reason to do so, you always can play something broken and easier than maining blaziken for example, they just want to go full braindead meta and then complain bc their teammates are bad, even tho they don’t improve at all bc they never challenged themselves (nor does the game challenge them), this is normal in every single game, even I must have suffered this, but unite is way too radical about this, the game doesn’t have a good design when it comes to a character’s kit and the meta itself.
They need to add new pokemon monthly to keep it fresh
@valentinperez1756 falinks is arguable to pick because even though it's good rn(although I cannot guarantee it because I haven't used it post nerfs) it has counter picks like lucario or venusaur,you can simply pick blaziken or ceruledge and get better results and another thing is people like to play favorite mons like cinderace and greninja which you see often unlike Duraludon whose pick rate is lowest even though it's strong under right hands
I watched the entire video and related to everything said in the video
Here’s one thing I really don’t see anyone talking about: breaking the goal before 8 min. Sure you broke their goal zone but many still don’t realize breaking the goal gives the enemies indeedees to farm and suddenly the enemies are much higher leveled because you gave them a bunch of experience. Also breaking the goal gets rid of your own baltoys and indeedees on your side this is bad when your laner is Ttar or chomp who needs experience.
Anyways, I appreciate anyone who read this long ass comment
@@silly_gon this is such a great point, maybe I can do some deep dive into the scoring mechanic of unite and bring in some cool math psych to talk about this. Thank you for the great idea!
Read and understood 🫡
A piggyback on this is when you do break goal people will break with 5 points for 4 left rather than somebody with 30 points. As an all rounder main picking up t tar (because Machamp is just impossible to play right now) I appreciate this.
@@gimik2593i just play it as a jungle, get both boost, and i use D-cross and D-punch as moves. My personal kit is the weights,the sharp claw and the megaphone.
@@untipogracioso3038 I appreciate the advice.
it’s a pokémon game, so the majority of the player base by default will be casual.
unite has two game modes: casual and ranked. i can only speak for myself, but originally i used to play on casual. until i noticed losing once or twice in a row would put me in a bot match. now i just play ranked by default, because i know that i’ll be playing with REAL people. i just want to play a multiplayer game. i also suspect that many people feel the same; you don’t hear it as much anymore but often you’d see people saying “ranked is just standard.”
the game doesn’t do a good job of promoting self-improvement or reflection for players, but genuinely i think if casual wasn’t so horrible, people would play it. leaving ranked for people who DO want to improve.
You can still get bot matches on Ranked.
I feel like one of the biggest flaws starts from the beginning, the test bots. Notice how bots in bot games have a very simple directive that goes against everything the community says. They prioritize Regieleki at 7 minutes, they do not take middle Altaria, they break goals as fast as possible, and most of all, they prioritize capping at 2 minutes over the objective. They learn from these bots and do what they do. Unite really needs to make the bots better or a portion of the younger audience will follow their strategy.
Pokemon Unite as a whole encourages this.
Most people get MVP for doing this.
Since assisting in kills and letting other people score doesn't count as a good play (from the game's eyes)
Which is quite discouraging
They also seem to learn how to run into walls as the AI can’t figure out that there is no lane in the center of the map
another addition is how the game is so centralizing in the last 2 minutes, ive had games where me and my team are amazing. absolutely destroying the enemy team for 8 minutes straight. But then at Rayquaza that one guy who sat in a bush all game gets the last hit and we insta-lose despite playing more skillfully. Effectively rewarding laziness and playing pokemon that just steal objectives or rip them as fast as possible.
If you already won the match don't need to take down ray just defend it from being taken down or else suffer a L from players like that and another is those losses are deserved why the heck all 5 players need to be attacking ray. one needs to route perimeter and 2 one needed to stop fighting for a second to check perimeter. It's laziness from ya part just because the game is a hold a button that's it doesn't mean you stop doing other things that help you secure the W from the start to finish, that where the skill falls out in unit too many players don't have skills in this game and think oh one player hiding in bush is lazy it's not. One player can't beat 5 players alone especially seeing his teammates being taken down it was the better call for that moment if the players can't do anything helping taking down doesn't work. Hiding in the bushes is nothing wrong inteleon is designed for it and deye another for it and Venusaur is also while using solar beam few others that are so, if you lack knowledge of this then it's nobody fault but you're own for no checking the bushes before and during Rayquaza. Timi had this in mind a long time ago when goodra uses the bushes to heal. With this I am saying we need to stop complaining as a community and simply get better and accept the fact that the pokemon unit brings different play styles in the game and Mostly players who come here are players who play cod or any other game doesn't require or force team play. Just the way it is. Been like this ever since.
@@cloud-se4oo the game is more strategetic than stratagic games cuz unite is deemed as action i suppose and also when defending ray if youre team is winning the other teams lvl must be low so i guess 12 or 13 their revival time would be arnd 20 seconds so well have to fight them 5 times or so and after dying their unite charges considerably which gives them more chance to win by using unites in the crct order which is so annoying to deal with and bcuz even if my team is winning we go for ray but then a cinderace is in a frickin bush
@@Zaultreyak I main cinder, it's unit takes few seconds to load out if you can cancel or eliminate him won't be much a bother. Yes true but the moment the other side goes to respond those 20 seconds are useful to go back and heal up again and set up the defense better. If two faces one it won't be able to do anything due to cc. Not to mention every team needs a great attacker if so then forget that the other team having its unit ready won't be able to do anything due suppressing fire from attackers and supporters helping. I'd play enough especially with players who automatically understand this won the match holding on 2 minutes, heck if when the enemy teams are all responding those 20 seconds are enough to take out Rayquaza very quickly between all 5 helping. It's all about positioning one or two needs to be on top and the others in front of Rayquaza. The problem here is most players do defend but get in the Rayquaza zone where they take damage slowing and top of the enemies team damage that's where skills and understanding of unit players fail most of the time. It's possible to hold it just to need skills and understanding which many lack only few do. Don't forget mostly nowadays when they see lock down defense some will give up and stop playing making it an easy path. It's all skill and how strong the mind is. Timi didn't miss around when making this game forcing players to have a strong mind set. Too many are soft due to cod fortnite and other games made to many people weak minded at least i see it that way.
@@cloud-se4oo But even if you dont need Rayquaza to win, your Teammates might attack it regardless and set up a possible flip for the Enemy Team. Or worse both teams lose like 3-4 of there memebrs in a early Ray fight and it becomes a lose-lose scenario where your too low HP and resources to Score incase the surviving enemies retreated to there Goals, and you have too little firepower to burst down Rayquaza and the enemy team can come in for Round 2 and make the comeback
@@drxavier1870 nah I seen and done it myself all alone with nobody left from neither side I burst down ray all by my self. With cinder I do when it's hp is have way use blaze kick or pyro than use faith for quick healing and boost basic speed than use almost at the end unit move for more power and quicker basic speed. Even with melee I did it myself and few others have done it. It's like I said too many lack mind set and skills to do anything right in this game it gets tiring overtime.
One thing that I think is a big part of it is this is Unite is so heavy on working as a team but communication is scarce and most people have different priorities. You can ping "Let's defeat Registeel!" all you want but 9/10 times your pings will be completely ignored. Some people think the pressure of Regieleki is more valuable than the healing over time from Regice. Some junglers will ditch the team fight for their newly spawned jungle buffs every time while other junglers will leave their buffs up for full minutes because they think it's more important to defend the goal that three opponents are collapsing on. Some players spend most of the game scoring in the opposite lane of the team fight because they take the premise "scoring is how you win" too literally and other players never take the chance to score because they're so busy fighting the whole time. And the worst part is "the right call" in any given moment changes all the time. What worked in the last match will be your demise in the next one, and a lot of players get tunnel vision or too stuck in their habits to recognize that ultimately, what wins games is working as a team and tackling things together.
but regice is useless, the leftovers passive is very bad in a game where everything oneshots you
@@thegrilledfishsballad Haven't I seen you before?
This is why I feel that the voice chat should be unbanneable, you should be able to silence somebody in specific but they shouldn't get their mic blocked because of that, for me, it will be always preferable to just be able to communicate properly instead of using such a limited quick chat
As mainly defender main (prefer to not die after single mistake/sudden stun from enemy), it's so frustrating at times to see teammate on lane do whatever but gain exp and score at good time, be on the opposite side of map with charged Unite moves instead of making sure that Rayquaza (usually play ranked to get to a cap of seasonal rewards, not a single wish of grinding to the top with matchmaking given) won't be slaughtered by opponents, quit mid game and so much more. Being a defender main and playing solo is painful at times
I feel this, but I play almost of the time all the roles I have seen my team at times run at Ray with two teammates while I'm on the other side due to the fact I'm trying to score and run back to them but they just run in and die I got no idea why they do when the foe is not even paying attention to Ray and killing them
Being a supporter in this game is not rewarding
@@felipovisk972 feels even worse when you have to carry and you still lose
that's one of the main reasons I stopped playing Bliss, a support or defender's impact (in most cases anyway) is in direct relation to their team's capabilities, which makes it a lot worse to play in solo
@@pixelperfectgaming1996 Not me with my Mr. Crime doing more damage than my Attackers, All Rounders and Speedsters...
Ehh there’s a whole other side to it though. I’m a casual player and only have two choices:
1. Play a standard match w/ bots (no fun.)
2. Play in ranked and end up bothering the competitive players. It’s fun for me, but we lose every time I’m forced to use a defender, which is a significant portion of my matches.
Wish there was a way to disable bot matches 💔💔
Earned a sub from me. I started playing in January and have been enjoying the casual aspect of Unite so far. I played a lot of MOBAs in my heyday, so Unite scratches the itch without commiting massive hours like in LoL and Dota. The most frustrating thing is people not understanding that game so far. There's a lot going on under the hood that players have to dig for to understand, so that barrier to entry alone is enough for some to run choice specs on dragapult and still run leftovers.
@@Wizardofexisting thank you for your support! I find unite to be very accessible, which is great, but it also means players may assume there’s not much to understand about it.
Unite is a game where competitive players MUST play with casual players without having an opinion about it. That is why we suffer so much and they are just happy walking around and pressing buttons.
...i mean, isnt ranked for competitive and the rest of gamemodes for casuals?
1 high rated player and 4 low rated players against 5 medium rated players. This reminded me as I am part of the medium rated players and the enemy team had an Absol that seems to throw the game. But their Gengar. I was told he was the 13th best Gengar Player in the world. And his skills are very terrifying. Unfortunate for him, he lost the game though due to our team sticking together a lot and as a Slowbro, I focused on the Gengar as much as I can. It's a REALLY weird experience to be up against a terrifyingly strong Gengar player.
I noticed as a player of 2 years, especially looking at twich streams, loads of kids. Nothing wrong for kids, but there are a lot. I started viewing it as how many kids are in this match vs why are my team mates trash. There are good and bad players all ages. Too many old heads "need to play meta." Also I VPN between South Korea and US totally different play styles. Korea quick plays have more Bot accounts and all move in a pact which could cause top or bottom scoring leaving opens for back caps or solo npc farms. US typically are meta and I can solo tank against 2 or 3 players. Both sides dont like to score and opt for kills, which doesn't get wins. It seems who ever can level up and fastest wins. Dynamic playing isn't really thought about. 2v2 a player faints, and the other opts to tank and when the player who fainted returns the other faints. Leaving a 1v2 drip feed for enemy exp farming. Not many players look at maps either. I often find 4 top 1 bottom lane. Or seeing a friendly 3 v 2 enemy and frienldy cannot knock out enemies for several minutes.
It's the -3 IQ plays at Ray from my teammates that make me want to uninstall the game
A problem with Unite ranked is that there is a limit to how far you can fall. You can stop playing for years and boot back up to find you are still in veteran. This puts all of the burden on team balance on the weird matchmaking as you explained. Other games have 6-7 big ranks but we have 3.
As for Pokemon with incorrect items, screw just giving a message. Just make completely incompatible items impossible to equip. If I'm on the held items screen for a Physical Attacker, Wise glasses shouldn't even come up on my screen.
girl, I totally agree. I quit unite in season 1 after I hit masters because there was no reason to continue playing, no goals. I came back last month and nothing changed besides a new map that had me wonder what happened to dreadnaw and rotom. at least no more zapdos ptsd.
I've had players who start rayquaza as soon as it spawns regardless if we are in the lead or not.
As I’m listening to this video I look up and see a choice specs machamp and a wigglytuff jungle #HELP
When everyone selects attacker, but 1 has something else, call out to pick a attacker and just roll with it.
I should prep a attacker with left overs....
As someone who uses to play specs Duraludon and Greninja (I thought they were special attackers like in main series, somehow managed to ignore the message saying they were attack based), I apologize profusely.
It’s not your fault king, how would you know? The game doesn’t tell you or help you learn!
I hate it when I blame other players (although sometimes yeah) but I enjoy it when I can acknowledge when I do a bad play because it makes me feel like I'm actively trying to be better at the game
Honestly this video has put a lot of insight that I never really have taken the time to reflect on. Before Unite I came from playing fighting games competitively (which I still do), and it's taught me to hold myself accountable for my skill. This carried over to unite and thinking about it, I feel like I would be worse off without that mentality with me. I wouldn't have gotten better without it. I've also found myself victim to tilt and continuing to play, but despite that I still try to accomodate for my team and play the best I can. That said, the unite playerbase is questionable at best and it sucks because you can play well but then your team screws you up by many misplays. Hell sometimes trying to accomodate a role for your team screws you over as you've said because you need to trust your team. Supporters and to a much lesser extent tanks rely on your teams and I typically play defender. I feel so helpless because I need to rely on my team to get the most out of the role. I really wish that the unite playerbase can have some concept of accountibility since the nature of the game makes it hard for one to reflect on their own skill.
Hopefully my blabbering added something and I prolly missed to mention some important things and details.
@@metaman9952 I feel like usually players who fill for the team are the ones who understand more about the game itself, I’m gonna do a video soon diving more into roles bc I’m interested in that. But yeah it’s hard not to tilt, even the most positive people tilt but I feel like good players will point out bad plays of their team while also acknowledging when they make mistakes too, so I’ve been trying to do that more. Thanks for your insightful comment!
@@huskystar77 Looking forward for more educational content for unite from you since it fills a very empty part of unite content creation. I always liked watching educational videos in my spare time, especially those that relate to my interest towards my electrical and computer engineering major.
@@metaman9952 hey no way buddy! I have an ECE bachelors degree! I do engineering research now, which is why I love all this stuff. Glad to meet a fellow ECE!
2:03 unite biggest problem since day 1. The only game that thinks putting a "GM" player with 4 "bronze" players against 5 "platinum" players is fair and fun
I think all players should be forced to play defenders up until a certain rank to understand how to play the game.
Currently on a 16 game win streak climb to masters so far so I’m not complaining lol. There’s definitely been some sweaty games on my part when I get the rough teams but yeah I’ve definitely seen a huge drop in skill with the player base.
I think another aspect that plays along with “don’t worry about it just mistakes it’s alright” is catchup exp.
I had a game where a snorlax and I (machamp T-T Temi pls help) were absolutely dominating a cureledge and Mr mime the first two minutes of the game. We killed them both, took some of their farm, got birds, and scored once or twice, so it’s really tough when a jungler mewtwo showed up 1v3ed me, snorlax, and the jungler and because ceruledge was in the vicinity of the kills apparently is now a higher level than me and my lanner.
I don’t think it should be removed entirety, but it feels like so easy any advantage/good plays you make while laning can just be throw in the gutter which feels awful.
I would suggest maybe a cap on the amount of catch up exp because it can be ridiculous at times.
I think part of it is due to them not wanting to clarify that while some items have positive effects outside of their stat boosts that specific items are required to use other Pokémon well and while in the mainline games those items might have other uses they're thinking that the Pokemon company is just going to roll over and keep that same ideology of all of their items which I appreciate the fact that they were willing to change it up and spice things up for us but then those that decide that they don't need to read anything are just to innane to actually figure out the rest of the game
Amazing video!! Have been playing since launch and you summed up the game and playerbase perfectly 😅
Great video Husky, you hit the nail on the head!
Omg thank you EloPapi big fan
I can't describe how many time i tried to beat my head at the wall frustrated of losing because of f**king bad team and sometimes just throwing the game even though wining early . Its just the peak of destroying my inner peace . As a solo queue player life in PU is hell
Once I found a girl on in game vc in a soloq quick match during dragon event, she spoke the whole game and nothing she said was related to coordinate or direct the team. She talked about her internet issues (no apologizing for it, despite being aware connection issues may arise), unite picking miraidon for her when she didn't know how to play miraidon (apparently she didn't pick in time) and asked if we were able to hear her. I couldn't carry the 2 people who actually played and ended losing, before you tell me anything, I do recognize made mistakes here and there, though they weren't atrocious as the ones this girl did.
Since the start of the match she only farmed, inted, picked bad fights, not join team fights and didn't rotate or defend pads at all, dead weight in other words.
I believe this is an interesting piece of information about what goes through the mind of a bad unite player. What I gather from that match is that she doesn't take unite seriously and neither tried to make good plays, only to make a 'aww, we lost? Welp, it is what it is' kind of excuse after losing. All this makes me believe improving and learning more about unite isn't something relevant to her, tho tbh she's just probably playing because it's a Pokémon game judging by her actions.
The people on vc are always impossible LMAO
Love your content, Unite has a lack of analytical, thoughtful commentary like this
Heya ! Loved the video !
Unfortunately it is most likely indeed in big part the responsibility of the design direction for the game. The problem being that they tried to make it so players that are better at the game play with people who spent a lot of time on it, banking on a time = skill equation.
The big mistake here is they didn't spend enough resources into bringing this time to skill equation to light, preferring a more classic way of feedbacking performance as could be seen in many other mobas.
You cooked with this!!! I feel so much less crazy about my complaints after watching this 😭
i think it comes down to a few things
1: they dont actually realize there's a physical and special difference
2: theyre from the main series of games where shadow ball is a special move so they should use the thing that increases special attack, leftovers is one of the best items or the likes
3: genuinely dont know what an item is and is just going with their highest leveled and assumes thats the best, because if you had a list of items, can only bring 3, theyd take the highest level
It hurt to see that mewtwo x jungle not go back to jungle farm
The thumbnail is ironic since Choice Specs are actually one of the best items for Dragapult in the main series Pokemon games. In OU singles at least
God, your jungle pinging comment is why I don't jungle. Just, I don't like it in any moba, since the lane that doesn't get ganked always complains. And that messes with my head, that i need to help them, then I get behind in farm, then those guys start to snatch the jungle cause they're upset and its like, yea nah.
Edit: And I'm bad at it.
About the items. What if they have assault vest, rock helmet and leftovers.
We’ve all been there, “just one more match” or “can’t end on a loss”.
We need some live streaming ❤🙏
I just found your channel! Love your content!
Thank you so much !!
As someone who has 60%wr on ranked only with almost 9k games it turned impossible to play soloQ for the reasons you explained on the video + I'm just above decent, resulting on an awful experience and being even worse when there was no draftmode, so hard to carry people who just want to get Ls apparently since the character selection screen
so ended quiting the game when I had only one friend keep playing
Honestly seeing people say they can’t get into masters due to there teammates make me think that they’re also the problem but don’t want to take responsibility. I understand once u hit 1600 because people are more aware of what’s going on plus 3 stacks and duos but anyone should be able to hit masters…
You'll delete this dumb comment when you have an exp share leftovers cinderace on your team
You will have these kind of teammates in master too. It‘s just that getting to master is not that difficult. People get there with a negative wr because of bots in ranked (outside of master) and the activity points or whatever system on top of p2w obtainable rank save cards or whatever they‘re called. While it may be true that in lower ranks there are more players with bs item builds and no plan of the game, it sets you even more apart from these people to carry the Game to a victory. I am a Master player and ive played a new account with half working items and bad pokemon from the lowest rank all the way up to Master with 81%wr. That‘s because there are so many noobs with bad item builds and bot Games in ranked, this was easily achievable. Honestly 95% of the playerbase is in Master, if you‘re not, you‘re either a kid just trying to have fun or you don‘t get the concept of MOBAs at all, which is absolutely fine, just don‘t complain then 😂
@@jmwturneruk i have them on my team but sadly i still carry because I'm the only good player in the lobby -_- if u really having a hard time play trev. he's the perfect mon to help your tm8s while carrying interms of killing things. anyways they won't be in your game 70% of the time so it's still on you if u cant hit masters. it's ok to say you're not good but we learn from these mistakes and get better so u we don't be like that cinder everyone hates.
@@pikachichu__ thank you
@@playharderscrub yeah I either assume if players are struggling to get to masters that they just don’t play enough or they’re like extra bad lmao
I think a lot of folks just don't care enough to learn the deeper mechanics.
It's a 10 min pokemon game
"I like cinder, and if I rip Ray, I win sometimes" and that's as far as they get often times.
And they don't read either it seems.
I don't think the game should have to hold your hand, just read what specs does.
Rant over, great video and topic
I love doing a God level comma inducing gank just for my team to go top lane in Ray fight when theres a 2 players in the enemy team unable to fight. And who is more valuableto ult the LV 15 Dnite that has been killing your team all match or the lv 11 lil timmy scoring who uses his ult on wild pokemon?
I love all your suggestions and totally agree. I think this would help new players and veteran players especially the lane is full suggestion I love that idea so much
The studies are very interesting. It really makes me reflect upon myself
Want to climb fast even when your team is dog? Play the EX mons before they get nerfed.
My biggest issue is lack of items. I almost always see people who dont have a second or third item. They also need to just give all the emblems outright along with items.
It is literal pay to win and the same as the old league runes and pages costing real money.
Love these thorough observation videos from you Husky. Your input is always clear, fun, and digestible 💕
#GirthCheck
@@rewind_kitsune thank you so much kitsune! Love seeing you here
14:41 Honestly I always wondered what is the exact design philosophy behind the game because yeah you can just say it's Pokémon and be the whole reason but Pokémon games aren't like that, yes you more than ever can beat the main story by bashing your head on the controller but competitive is VERY VERY hard not just hard to play but hard to get into. You need so many knowledge about builds and how to properly train your Pokemon and it's becoming increasingly hard to do that because of the lack of information and making things like breading more obtuse and I can see some of that philosophy in Unite like not explaining what exp share does at all but that clashes with the press one button to win characters in the game and rewarding you just for playing enough time in the main games if you don't have a proper team you wouldn't be able to win even in the most casual singles matches
You can select top, bottom, or center but there's also the secret 4th lane. I play Invader Greedent in solo queue masters and I manage to make friends on both teams. I'll never understand people fighting over jungle or arguing in lane..
@@SaltymanGaming you’re the hero we need
Agreed 😊
I invaded as support mr mime (i won the invade), but for some reason my lane partner (trevenant) was pissed that i left him alone a couple times to steal the enemy jungle and decided to throw the entire match by staying in our jungle the entire game stealing our junglers buffs, not engaging in any fight even though we almost won the ray fight without him and spammed thanks (His game tag was "GreenArrow"). Its insane that people like that can reach Master
Me watching my entire team chase after a 30hp Wigglytuff for half a minute instead of getting Rayquaza (the rest of the enemy team was dead. Rayquaza was fucking free)
Wow this vid is great
The funny thing is most of the bad players are the ones that get the most bot games so that 46% wr meowscarada is mostly playing bot games and STILL has that WR%
TBF, choice spec drag is something in regular pokemon. Heck I thought it was a special attacker till I got the license
Are you color blind?
TiMi has another MOBA called Honour of Kings where you gain honour points the more you play a specific character. The more honour points you collect, the more stat buffs that character gets. Do you think Unite would benefit or suffer from that?
@@YosiahW it’s hard to say. I think the ribbon system is good, maybe access to a shiny skin or something like that would be enough. I’d be nervous with stat increases just promoting one tricking which would make the current draft system even more difficult. It would be interesting but would require a lot of balancing for sure
Thats hilarious. Idk you but it was recommended. So i said sure why not. Youre a great speaker who chooses gr8 wordage. Kudos to you for voicing opinions that are very plausible.
Anyway, i just made a post on the main facebook group about how Unite can be subsided as a Briggs-Meyer/OCEAN test lmfaoooooo
@@MobiusIshtar I’m literally working on something like this omg
I tried to explain to my friend how much better it would be to just not break goals so early, but his excuse is """the pros do this, so it's the best strat"""
Guess I gonna troll him just for that
So, I guess that me consistently keeping a 60% winrate for 5 seasons in a row already and reaching Masters while being a Solo Q player is more of a miracle than actual skill at this point, right?
I had to delete it after trying to climb with a 13 loss streak i cried bro like real tears
Hi ashley please be safe homelander is coming for you
Hot take but I think that Unite player base is so bad because there hasn't been anyone to have gone viral with playing Unite. All of the current Unite influencers and TH-camrs are doing baby numbers. You go on tye ChrisHeroes, Spragel, Inder channels and they're doing rookie numbers getting 10k-20k views. That signals to me that the people who are part of the competitive Unite community is tiny when compared to the number of players that are in the millions. That is why I think the Unite player base is trash until someone shows up who can do big numbers im talking about millions in views. Only then will the majority of people try to compete and better themselves because there will be an incentive to become the next big influencer. It'll turn Unite from a casual game that kids play on their ipads into an actual cut throat moba
Valid perspective
unite makes me mad bc i’m supposedly playing w real people on my team and the enemy team are playing like real people but the people at my team are getting stuck just running into a wall or walking back and forth at spawn and it makes me MAD CUZ HOW ARE THESE REAL PEOPLE HOW CAN U SPEND A WHOLE MINUTE RUNNING INTO A WALL
I Uninstalled the game JUST for the playerbase
Playerbase? do they exist? I got into Ultra tier by beating Bots (literally) for hours straight
@@Punkqurupeco wtf, yea there is a playerbase XD
My personal mindset, i know theres a lot of bs might as well embrace it. I love Duraludon, Dura is my favorite Fridge
so heres is the yt channel
I remember people just running goal sheild and just scoring then boasting they caried with only 1 kill and 2 assists
I quit the game 3 months ago when I was getting back-to-back-to-back games with bots
I swear I played against bots more on this game in ranked of all places than playing Co-op modes (that fill bots after 30 seconds) in other mobas
5 speedster comp supremacy
I kind of wish we had team exp like HOTS
The thing is, the game is not designed nor intended for "good" or "competent" players.
Its made for getting as many people playing for as long as possible (not per match, just for paying for stuff.)
It's why zapdos and ray are the way they are. Its why EX pokemon were thought of. Its why there is catchup exp.
The game purposely is vague on a lot of mechanics. Its why the patch notes are vague in game, its why it doesn't tell you what moves crit, etc. Its not made to be "played", the main goal is to just suck people into the shop, or memberships, etc.
If this game was developed as anything other than a mobile game, it would have maybe stood a chance to be deeper, well developed, less grimy, yadda yadda. Its not a moba. Its a cash shop where the attraction is its an easy to pick up game where you play as pokemon.
Sound exhausting. I’ve mainly seen toxic behavior on class-based shooters like TF2 and Overwatch. What other games do you like?
@@Stinkbug08 I play mostly laid back games besides unite lmao, it’s probably for the best😂 my partner is into DOTA 2, and that game is…whew
@@huskystar77 I feel that. Unite is the only moba I’ve ever played. I’d probably have an aneurism if I played DOTA or League. Definitely like chill games like Dreamlight Valley or even Planet Coaster. I’m also a roguelite junkie which has its own level of intensity yet remains somewhat psychologically manageable for some reason imo.
@@Stinkbug08 roguelikes are so fun for me to watch I have never played one though!
@@huskystar77 love them, especially hades and balatro. also just wanted to say I love what you do! I’ve been burned out on unite for a little while (I’m prob going to jump back in once ex mons are reworked and all) but I really enjoy watching your streams and the emphasis you place on social issues
Husky blowing up!
No wonder why I get terrible teammates… I swear I can never find people who are good 😭
Hi Husky, will you be going to Worlds?
Nope:( I went to NAIC, but Hawaii is too far and too expensive
i fw you heavy you’re like the psych2go of unite 😭❤️ y’know if psych2go didn’t suck ass
@@mouseplop27 I have no idea what you’re talking about but I appreciate you
Was psych2go that bad? I didn't have that bad of a impression
@@huskystar77 he was saying about an accessible TH-cam psychology channel to learn psychology
Now we know how main EX players feel.
Whats even more insane are bot matches in ranked but the bots play worse than players and the enemy squad of bots is more coordinated than you
I think another reason why this player base is bad is because probably 1/3 of your game is probably a kid that just wants to play some Pokemon
There's a place in hell for people who think scoring 20 points is more important than getting Rayquaza
…sweats
depends
if the 20 prevents a loss/draw and instead of defeating Rayquaza, your team is defending, then that was a great game
Dont worry ive been on a 14 game loss streak and im suprised i havent lost my mind yet i legit just got off called it a day and went to play some og sonic XD (Ty to all my backcapping lads that costed me all those games and luv to those who actually tried ❤️)
@@lopunnyplayzthepinkgang3025 oh boy it do be like that, been there plenty of times😂
@huskystar77 unfortunately, but regardless I still play even though I have games like this it does stress me out most of the time but I've played many mobas and other games in general so it's a normal feeling for me I do hope they add what you mentioned like how held items that don't effect said Mon will be shown to the player giving them insight on what items to properly use and maybe the recommended builds have 3 different sets to kinda show what's good on a Mon 😀
I feel like alot of players just don't know what the objective of the game is.
I started playing two months ago.
Tested some Pokemon.
Went with Leafeon und got to veteran 2 with over 95% wr within 3 days.
I never played a mobile moba before, just lol until 2021.
Below ultra you only get bot games
Here's a proverb I live by: "It's easier to convince yourself you're right than to prove yourself wrong."
Where'd I find it? I made it up!
That being said, I wish Unite took itself more seriously... it has the potential to be my favorite moba ever, but this game doesn't push its players to improve enough imo. It's too easy to get hooked into bad habits...
Stop the Choice spec Zoroarks as well
I think there does need to be a system does not allow attck based pokemmon to equip sp attck items
Then again, rapid scarf and muscle band alolan ninetales was a popular, legit build just a couple weeks ago. What about builds like that?
all of my losses also have another thing in common.. the presence of other players..
this is what you can do
play laning carry
play laning carry
just keep laning carry and hope you can get to masters
there will always be games where all 4 of your teamates dont farm tho so even ifyoure level 15 you lose
I feel like you may have forgotten rage and frustration in that spectrum of negative feelings you mentioned 😂
People need to be automatically punished for idling during the match IDK if it's 4 seconds and they should let us only play one role on a team to better balance it
problems with Unite:
- the tutorials (or lack there of) are dog sh*t
- players don't know the main tactics and strategies
- players don't know how to play their pokemon
- the report system is trash
- probably the worst match making i haver seen
i think the playerbase has such a bad Blame Game problem, but the actual flow of unite battles is extremely unintuitive and imho an absolutely terrible place to try and learn the actual macro of MOBAs for first time players (which a fat chunk of unite players are)
@@chucklesticmccormick5828 honestly yeah I’m with you, it’s very easy to get into the game. And like I said, it’s so much easier to blame everyone else, and since people aren’t actually learning the game, why wouldn’t they blame everyone else yk
@@huskystar77 yep, AND most of all anytime theyre tuning in to see big content creators its 90% of the time good players actually fighting an uphill battle against the MMR system
"oh there are just these bad players who run bad items in like 25% of all games, clearly its all the matchmaking and not at all these couple of minor mistakes i made that snowballed the game!" when in reality 45% of games are lost in one miscalculation at ray 🕴🫡
I don't Blame the Players, I blame the game. There is no reason to play Defender or support. Putting in points earn you more points at the end than playing correctly with your team. People that don't know how to play such games will not learn with Pokemon Unite. The gameplay is fun but they do a terrible job at teaching it.
I quit unite for good .... Had 60% win rate almost every season some seasons even higher and never played broken ex mons too
It's too exausting to help bad teammates every single game
Will come to unite if matchmaking changes if not it's almost ded to me
So I hate pokemon unite, I attempted to switch from LOL to Unite, but after a few months the competitive got SO stale, idk how you do this... Anyway, love your content!!
If anyones got tips im trying to improve as a solo player and I try to figure out what i shouldve done in said situation during the match. I would absolutely love the input.
Like when is it I should be rotating as jungle/attacker/all rounder (im working on a defender atm)
Ive been looking at item builds and emblems(still working on these but i can make 6orange,white,green seems like the usual)
The mons im playing atm
Talon, Gyarados, Garchomp, Aegislash, Delphox, ninetails, and dragapult. Im looking to learning Lapras goodra and trevenant as far as defenders go maybe mamoswine dont know yet.
and how should we react when the game is being lost. from what ive heard its to stick together and continue farming the best we can, and take an opportunity when the enemy team slips up.
Idk what else im forgetting but this comments already long😅
from what im understanding, when the top and bottom objectives is its normally time to start seeing where my team is and what they're doing and then on the game kinda like rotates the objectives?
Would totally check out UniteClimbingGuide who has a lot of great videos on these topics if you’re not already subbed to him! The best thing you can do is keep playing and be willing to learn:)
@@huskystar77 I actually do 😂 I mainly watch him and spragels, but its been awhile so i guess its time for a rewatch
Im using roles more to illustrate lanes, since in solo you might go top as attacker, bot as allrounder etc. When i say attacker i mean bot laner and allrounder i mean top laner.
So jungle rotations in the early game:
Do first jungle rotation, then pick a lane to gank. Three factors to consider: 1) what are you playing, do you need to stack: if so pick a lane where youre more likely to ko the opponents; more often than not you have too much energy to stack otherwise.
2) is there a laner you want to help get online quickly in one of your lanes(gyarados is the best example to illustrate this, if you gank the karp lane and get your karp an assist or kill youve basically won that lane for free)
3) is there something on the enemy team you want to prevent from coming online.
After 8:50 altarias, head back to jungle asap for your second rotation, usually around 8:30 or so to do at least both buffs before you head to mid altarias at 8 mins. If the enemy jungler sits in lane you can go to invade their buffs instead of your own, giving your team a free set of jungle exp. Whether you take it or a teammate doesnt matter, its risky but the pay off if it works is huge. Second set of altarias spawn at 7:20, but depending on how your bot lane is doing, you might want to do your third jungle rotation instead to have crucial moves or your unite for bot regi, which is the play 90% of the time in solo for the first set of objectives, especially in west solo q. After that, rotations depend entirely on how the match goes. Try to be there for team fights, dont neglect jungle rotations.
For attacker its simple, do lane things, make sure at 8:50 you are set to be there for altaria spawn, have moves ready have close to full hp and arent doing back baltoy. If you want to farm back baltoy you pretty much need to be there at 9 mins when it spawns. If youre late, skip it for altarias, its safe and enemies cant contest unless they snowball altarias. In line with this, dont be on the enemy side of lane after 9:30'ish, this is when fast jungle clearers will gank a lane, agaisnt normal to slow junglers 9:15 is the latest you can hang around. dying at ~9:20 will lose your team mid altarias and by extension usually the lane entirely. At 8:10 is when you should start thinking about going to mid altarias. Usually its the tank and supports job to head there, so attacker can farm lane and defend goal, but in solo q more often than not they wont, and helping jungler win mid altarias could win the early game. At the very least i like heading into L bush to get vision of rotations and then decide where i head to mid or if thats just intinf. Its tough to make the right call here, stay in lane or rotate mid, but worth thinking about at least.
Then fight over bot regi. If you lose bot goal at any point, stay on top of farming indeedees when they spawn. Massive exp to help you come back. After bot objective rotate according to what the teams doing and how the game is going.
Allrounder - if youre stacking, try to get acouple of stacks early, depending on how the enemy team plays you might not be able to get many or any at all, if thats the case just stay safe and farm, usually not worth dying for a stack. Try to have one of the 2 toplaners defend goal from enemy stackers. Ideally one person stacks the other contests farm in top. Otherwise its similar things to attackers, be ready for 8:50 altarias and jungle gank, decide whether to rotate to mid altarias at 8 mins or not. The key difference to bot lane is honestly post 7:20 altarias. Ideally you want one person to stay top lane and the other to rotate down to bottom objective: the person staying top can 1) get free stacks and experience if the whole enemy team rotates. 2) prevent the enemy team from stacking and getting free experience top 3) contest the farm and more often than not give the bot lane man advantage, especially if the jungler heads to eleki. Under goal you can usually just stall letting your team ideally win bot objective(though yes, in solo they will manage to lose 2 v 4 constantly. Cant base you best play on your teammates being bad though, thats gonna lead to really bad habits).
Specifically allrounder pokemon(or pokemon that play the role like stacking trev) things:
If jungler overstays in the other lane, you can also invade them after the first set of bees.
After the first set of objectives, depending on what allrounder you have and whether youve broken goals you want to at leqst consider split pushing, getting your missing stacks, taking enemy side indeedees and checking their jungle buffs and whether you can steal them. You do still want to be there for important team fights though.
In solo you always want to make sure the farm on your side of the map gets cleared frequently and asap, so the next set of farm spawns asap too.
If your team is losing hard, make sure you farm indeedees, often times its better to just farm instead of rotating to objectives your team cant win anyway. Always look out for comeback kos, ifyou can get a ko on their jungler or any other high leveled carry, you can instantly come back into the game regardless of how badly you are losing. And yes, it is very worth it to "waste" unites for this KO; The comeback experience you can gain from it is insane. You can gain multiple levels if the level gap is big enough.
Long ass message, i know but i hope its of some help.
As a side note, for emblems i highly recommend joining the mathcord discord, a lot of amazing emblem loadouts and alternatives there in a dedicated channel. Alternatively, you can check builds on the unite-db website, they have an emblem loadout listed under each item build.
This is not related i think but my god does the pokemon unite community have a handful of children likers. (met a few and its INSANE.)