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Great video, thanks for the work!

Ive been adding a handul of heavy clusters to my mixed load out. If I runout of dumbfires, its good to have a handful of them to really pad out the amno stores; they offer excellent damage per missile so when everything else runs out you have another few minutes of high dps if its safe to get in real close, could be a good use for personal ships

I use my m’s as a bomber fleet. Anything else and they seem useless.

thank you for figuring all this out. very useful!

Is the burst damage for all weapons or only player controlled weapons? Gunship style Corvettes potentially do have a place as brawlers that can project fire in multiple directions, whilst fighters will almost universally will have forward weapons only, so require more time on target.

How do you have so much fucking money? I run out of places to sell my wares

So I got so frustrated with this that I started looking into modding the game to fix it, and one of the first things I noticed is that part of the pilot skill system is that without mods destroyers are programmed to NEVER use their maximum effective range. They will use 60-90 percent of their effective range based on pilot skill and morale. Therefore, even if the destroyer chose an appropriate module to target there is almost 0 percent chance it won't enter range of station defenses. But of course, the destroyers don't intelligently choose what modules to target either, so unless you micromanage the ships and use every setting and command available to you to try and trick the ship into attacking the nearest part of the station, they will suicide on multiple defensive modules.

how effective are the khaak destroyers against asgards? it's been awhile since i used normal destroyers outside of sector patrol lol doyou think 4 of them at each trade station and dwarf should be sufficiant?

Flak is the best, only chose Flak, FLAK FLAK FLAK FLAK

I was wondering if that would work but had not tried it yet. Thank you.

Theres only Plasma or Beam when it comes to L turrets. If you can fit more than 4+ L's take 4x Plasma's, the other L's Beam😊

I dont see price of the ship mattering that much because if higher priced ship gives you advantage the extra price of the ship is just divided by number of trading trips the ship makes. When it has done 1000 trips while having advantage the original higher price feels meaningless.

I always wondered if adding projectile speed mods would help on turret effectiveness but then I realized in vanilla a purple mod can only boost up to 15% which seems negligible compared to something like slasher where reload speed can go up to 100%

I also like heavy heatseekers with a frigate early game to mannualy dismantle Ks. If used properly you can engage a big ship, hide in the blindspots and fire the missles indirect at the graviton turrets. You just have to aim like 20/30° higher...

The one problem I have with this analysis, is that it is viewing the comparison as if it were a symmetrical situation. It isn't symmetrical. Yes, if you're on a budget, building S ships is better. However, if your economy can sustain it, there is no reason to build S ships, because you can field as many M class ships as you want. Since there is no limit on how many ships you can produce, or limit on the total value of a fleet. You could roll up with 100 Novas, or you could roll up with 100 Katanas. So while early game, if you need to project force, and you're on a budget, the S ships will get you there better. In the mid game or late game, when you can manufacture your own ships, the only reason to invest in S ships, is if you are memeing. M ships do everything S ships do. They do it better. They do it with less losses. They do it with less lag. It's sort of like the old M1A1 vs T-72 dichotomy. The T-72 was a better tank for the USSR to build, because they were on more of a budget. They needed lots of good enough tanks. The USA on the other hand, had the economy to make a better tank, AND make absolute shitloads of them, AND if they wanted, they could have built MORE M1A1s than the USSR built T-72s.

Also erstmal, sehr cool analysiert und wirklich gut erklärt. Aber... ich kann verstehen, dass du deine Videos auf Englisch machst, um mehr Leute zu erreichen. Doch selbst mir als Deutscher, bluten die Ohren bei der Aussprache ^^

I put some Ion Net Boron turrets on my Defense platform near Xenon Sector gates, and they totally shred fighters Out of sector, even corvettes, they appear and then die 2 seconds latter. I have 9 "circle" defense modules with 2 ion net turrets on each, the others Large are the pulse ones and all medium are the ion quick ones (can't remember the name). It stopped 1 Xenon "I" with 2 Xenon "K" at the same time with minor damage (have to repair one circle defense module and the storage). The Bridge that connects them to the Dock are all L flacks with the same ion M.

I don't like the usage of the Raptor in this tests. It has so many turrets that damage output is going to be negligable purely because you have so many turrets. It is not very representative of ships with fewer turrets.

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Using the total cargo capacity seems a bit off to me. The only traders I see with a full load are those selling energy cells, even my medium traders tend not to have a full load.

My Anti K and I carrier (Colossus Vanguard) uses 2x12 Balaurs equipped with 4 Blast Mortar and SPL Travel Engines mk3 : it takes around 45sec for them to down a K, less than 2min for a I. And it 's not only quick but the K or I are completely distracted and will only shoot at the Balaurs heavy fighters. After 24h ingame time with constant xenon flood through the gates i've only lost one Balaur. Each my destroyer also have 2 Balaurs so the 5 Destroyer Fleet (base killer role) can take any surprise K or I thanks to this distraction effect plus real damage added by these heavy fighters. These Balaurs will also kill any other xenon ship (S or M), no need to mix another gun.

Question: Why do you assume the player is ALWAYS buying the input materials from a NPC? Particularly for refined goods, this drastically skews the profitability when even trading basic refined goods should be 100% profit.

When I look for videos with the most amount of attention to details I always hope the TH-camr is German. Then I know the information is on point. Thanks for the video

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It's a bit late, but your issue here is turret orders. When facing an enemy, the AI checks what weapons are available, checks which angle offers the highest firepower and then tries to hit the target. The shortest range of those weapons will be the one the AI will set to attack. In your case here, M plasma turrets are also targeting the station and their range is 4.5km. Pick the turrets that can fire at the same time with the destroyer's main weapon, use L plasma or M missile turrets and set them to attack capitals or all enemies (won't hit anything smaller than a destroyer IS, but doesn't matter OOS). The rest use for anti-fighter and set it to target fighters. That wiggle the desteoyer does is because a turret has the order to hit the station but has no line of sight, the pilot turns to fire with that turret and then does the same with the others. Another common issue is mods. AI doesn't seem programed to compensate for drag or forward thrust mods, and sometimes drops out of travel mode too late and ends up in range of enemy turrets

But, it's also much more fun to grab every single race habitat for collection in my zoo...I mean all in one.

The obvious choice is Flak, but I still rather use ARG pulse for my fleets. When OOS everything is great with Flak, but I like to join during battles and flak's splash damage not only melts enemies, also wrecks your own fighters. Argon Pulse has better range, so my destroyers can catch enemies in crossed fire, while I can assist with my fighter easily avoiding friendly fire.

thank you so much, the population video would be very helpful, as it is actually the most important stats

So if I keep a trader/scout in pretty much every system I can kind of bait attacks into other factions, and then focus only on attacks in where I would care about losing assets? Been working hard to keep the xenon sectors as alive as long as possible. And getting them into terrain territory is a struggle since terrans share no sectors with them. So definitely would be helpful if I could get as many xenon as possible to teleport into as many sectors as possible.

Thank you for taking the time for testing, information is power!

I tend to give intercept command to M ships with different S subordinates to attack with M ships that intercept (One interceptor with engine damage / slow equipment, one fighter with high burst weapons and one with sustained dps for example) The "Attack With" subordinates taking up their own targets is because of "Retaliate On Attacked" behaviour. Set either all ships to ignore attacks and set the non-fleet combat ships to retaliate (Use Judgement) or do it vice versa, set the fleet participating subordinates to ignore being attacked.

My crew simply exists for more immersion. Shame we can't see them handle the turrets like in a WWII B17 Bomber. 😅

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you can't lose with energy. Is low income, but is constant, don't need initial money other them to build the station, everyone buys and use it. Don't need input.

The ONLY engine for your miners is the combat engine. NEVER use travel or they will get stuck on asteroids and constantly toggle travel mode on and off again since they can't handle going around objects. With a long 3+ second delay each time. Combat engines instantly go to travel mode. This has been well documented for years.

I somewhat wonder how much the results here are biased by the fact that you are the only friendly ship around and are therefore the center of attention, the ai tends to make attack runs flying directly at you if you are the only ship around making projectile velocity less important as the enemy ship's velocity is added to it while in a mutual support situation you are often making shots against targets that are moving radially to you or even away making higher range and velocity important. Additionally friendly fire exists in sector and lower velocity/higher damage options like flak and plasma tend to to a lot more friendly fire while beams are almost completely immune to it.

My crisis bugged out I think...Was told to investigate battlefield between khaach and Xenon, attacked by 4 fighters, then told to await attack but the attack never came.

This is very helpful. I struggle with Stations in general.

I love your voice, its so calming. I love to watch your videos after a stressful day at work.

That's the end game fleet? That's nothing, all it would take it 1 or 2 defense platforms to destroy it. Wow that's disappointing

TIL part of the reason my Pelican got stuck for hours was a crap crew. Now, granted, there's no way that was the whole reason, i suspect the pathfinding algorithm got confused by the shape of my custom station. But it could have been confused faster and more visibly (and therefore made it easier to spot the problem) if the turning speed was buffed by a crew and captain that knew things.

What is high / low attention mode?

Some of the most successful combinations I have used are to have flight groups formed of a leader with the intended use (attack, intercept or bombard), each leader having around 3-5 identical fighters with the attack command and another 4-6 faster fighters with the intercept command. The attack command you have explained here. The interception fighters help screen the heavier fighters while they perform their primary duty. This is especially important for bombers. Thankfully, if the direct commander of the flight group's leader is a carrier, the leader's subordinates will dock alongside them, provided there is enough space on the carrier.

Amazing! Thank you I can't wait to try this.

what about the crane e?

This is helpful, but I found Boron Ion turrets work the best...sadly can´t be equipped on any non-boron vessel

Good testing and and findings. Thank you

The best and cheapest way to handle pirates is to... always comply. Works 100% of the time, and it will barely make a dent in your income.

Thank you for the video.

I use medium ships in numbers to snipe captials