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I’m not quite halfway through this episode, but need to express how I like it so far. As someone who loves a lot of Czech grind, yes, Melancholy Pessimism is definitely one that went past me though I’ve always heard the name. Loving it, and going to listen to more of them. I do love the punky quality of a lot of those bands- do you guys like Gride?? Their discography CD is one of my favorites of the genre. Also. Immolation is probably one of, if not the only, “do no wrong” legacy dm bands for me. 😎🍻🤘🤘🤘

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sorry i missed the stream but Spin Doctors >>> Gorgoroth and it's not even close...

One small correction, if I may (long after the fact lol): CiC is from Pittsburgh, and not exactly associated with that Belgian H8000 scene. They were more akin to bands like Racetraitor and the very early Willowtip bands like Fate of Icarus, Upheaval etc. H8000 was bands like Congress and Liar, the more chunky sxe Earth Crisis sounding bands as far as I know (I don’t claim to be an expert on that- ask Pat from GroundZeroSalem, he’s much more knowledgeable) I really liked that Véhémence album when it came out, and want to give it another listen now. Wish I could find a CD copy that’s not an arm and a leg. Another great episode fellas. I’ll get up to date at some point 😆🤘

1:04:10 You know what this sounds like? An ai generated song. I don’t know if either of you are familiar with Mr. Metokur, but I caught a VOD of his with an ai generated song about H-bomberguy, and it sounds eerily similar to this.

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I've wondered your thoughts on Shelley and HM. I remember the first time I read one of his explicitly political articles. I was horrified lol. Cool stream, cheers.

Man, I still kinda like the Necropolis podcast. Their ultra dry sense of humor and endless ANUSian ramblings are a fine listen while at work. Ofcourse Bunsen Burner and Terminus are god tier in comparison but it's slim pickings out there if you don't want to hear about Decibel Magazine or whateverthefuck.

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Misbyrming have actually spoken about intentionally scaring away those type of fans that they're not so thrilled to have attracted, and they seem as puzzled as you regrading the media attention lol

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Since I have no idea if you saw my final chat message sent pretty much _as_ the stream ended, I must reiterate my thanks to Black Metal Guy for shouting out my Khanate superfan ramble about Things Viral on the Torture Doom episode. I did indeed find the stream image googling what you said and briefly set it as my desktop wallpaper before you pointed out that it was all NSBM bands. It's still funny, no doubt, but not funny enough to be worth any conversations that start with "ew, why do you have nazi bands on your desktop?" My own edit with B&W album covers from bands I actually listen to will have to follow - I'm thinking Charles Bronson's Youth Attack! and Nails's Unsilent Death to start with. Probably Transilvanian Hunger too. And as for the "enclaves of taste on RYM and why they stay," my personal view is that ultimately it's a nice database and way to recommend things. Sure, you may not like everything in the top 100, but if you want to find "albums that are X and Y characteristic" they have the tools for that. I've discovered so much music that I like through browsing that site while still being able to maintain my own individual taste - I like some of the canon, but not because it's canon. And I like writing reviews that people read and that promote things that I like - I'm sure you guys can sympathize with that desire. It's like having a blog but the site architecture part is done for you. If you just want it to spoonfeed you "taste in music," you can do that, but that's not all it's good for. Yeah, autism ramble is my primary form of communication.

Outro very nostalgic

Was the arcane Bayonet a patreon member review? I ask bc it sounds like lazy garbage demos a bud might show you lol

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Gorgoroth - Ad Majorem Sathanas Gloriam.

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Gorgoroth! - yelled at visibly uncomfortable Gaahl 30 years from now in a nursing home.

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What the hell is all this garbage, can we get Wormed? Edit: Gorgoroth

I know the episode hasn’t been out for very long, but I listened to the windswept part first as that was the band I was most excited about. Don’t have the musical knowledge to add to any of your points, but I will say some connections and interactions Roman Saenko has had with the couple of scenes and bands you mentioned here. You mentioning French makes a lot of sense, as Saenko had a guest vocalist appearance ‘Niquez vos villes’ on Peste Noire’s self titled album, doing growls. That album had quite a few guest vocal performances, so how intimate did he get with famine and the rest of PN? Not so sure, but it does show he certainly interacts with the French BM scene, like you said with Neige. Also, of course this is very much clutching at straws, but according to a review on RYM, Saenko has had friendly Email interaction with deafheaven, so it’s possible he interacts and listens to very modern, shoegazy material, shown through his writing. Adding to your points about the mid tempo post punk sections in the EP, the very short lived first form of windswept was called ‘Herbarium’ which was pretty much just a post black band. Much slower, not nearly as noisy, but did feature similar post-punk, rhythmic tom drum sections that are in this most recent EP, so listening to it made me feel like he’s harkening back to the very first form of this project. I will listen to the rest of the episode, I promise. Just got too excited about windswept, leading to this absolute splurge comment. Cheers.

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I'm semi new to the show but you guys just have such good chemistry. I love how with just the first sample you are reading each other's minds! Planning on listening to as much of this as I can. Especially love that the emphasis is on new music.

Buckle up, it’s gonna be a long orb sesh.

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I definitely noticed that Screamo edge right away with this recent Ulcerate record, glad you eventually got there because as soon as you were saying that Ulcerate are an extreme metal band because they have nowhere else to be, I thought "nah, they'd totally fit in as a Screamo band." Infant Island, Ostraca, a lot of really popular (by Screamo standards) Screamo bands lately have been doing the "noisy arpeggiated guitar parts with spastic never-grooving drums and heavy post-rock influence" thing. Dunno if that's a case of Screamo bands ripping off Ulcerate in the years since Everything is Fire or just Ulcerate's "thing" not really being that forward-thinking unless you've only ever been exposed to metal (which seems to be a problem for most "cutting edge metal" - it tends to just be "what if we did _this,_ but metal?").

A jolly record this, perfect for tending to my mushroom garden

I got the chance to hear this poddy on your podbean website since it seemed to be briefly taken down or something. anyway, TBMG & TDMG, I feel like the Ulcerate are currently trying to do (based on the samples you showed I normally wouldn't care enough to check it out) some version of the band Virus that's like way worse. Virus you may have heard of, with the guy from ven buens ende. Or at least Virus is like the best version of that kind of riffing. Malignancy is really good and I hope to see them live someday, especially how they have those songs down to a point where they can bust them out in between banter like a joke it's almost confusing that they don't have to be quiet and mentally prepare

I was looking forward to this one. That Morgal album totally rules. Got to see them at Metal Threat last year, but sadly it was only an instrumental set because their singer apparently couldn’t get into the country. Visa issues or something. Both the guitarists were super nice kids, chatted with them for a bit. Hope they can make it back to the US sometime 🍻🤘

I found out about you guys from your 2020 podcast talking about the then new Defeated Sanity (my favorite metal band) record (Mahavishnu!!!), and it's great to hear you guys finally cover my 2nd favorite metal band, Malignancy.

New Malignancy is great, but I think i’d like more pinch harmonics

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I appreciate the Ophidian Memory review! The next album will be out in a few months, keep your eyes peeled.

"Yeah, it's good, but who gives a shit?" That should be a bump on the new album of every legacy band ever at this point. 😂

Belus has been my favorite Burzum album for a while now, so it’s been cool to see it slowly get critically rehab’d (at least from the true extreme metal community) in recent years. As much as Varg bullshits about his own music, I 100% believe him when he talks about how Belus was always the true end game for Burzum. All of the most trancelike, pagan leanings of Hvis and Filosofem are still present on it, but they coalesce in such a uniquely relaxing (but also oddly energizing) way. As for this new one, I definitely enjoy it, but I agree that it’s goes maybe a little too far off into non-metal territory. Regardless, I do think that Varg has tapped into something very original with this and Belus, so I hope he we don’t end up with another decade long “Burzum is done with metal” hiatus.

Burzum laid the foundation for atmospheric Black metal but that's about it, there were better artists among the 90s black metal bands whose works still would be great in the current year but Burzum's music just aged poorly.

"'Marduk 8w riffinh'...leik (presszuumablj an exxampl aw phrjdzian harmonj) Steel Inferno?"

19:50 so Varg is basically autistic?

varg: bony M's song "daddy cool" is better than anything the norwegian black metal scene has done varg: metal is gay varg: * makes new metal album *