Another great episode. Honan Bleydh II is definitely really good and I think the guy’s best work. My other favorite by him is The Crooked Wheel of Eternity from the Venymysgourvleydh project. A little repetitive but has a sick melody driving it. Worth a listen to anyone who hasn’t heard it
Thanks a lot Scott! And thanks for the rec, I want to dig deeper into the label and that's where I'll start. The way you describe it, sounds right up my alley. - TBMG
Gridlink in theory sounds like my idea band, i love anime and i love extreme metal. You would expect it to be riff salad but its better than that. and thats why i love it. Most of the riffs sound like music from the game F-Zero X, maybe thats why i like that. Ps. That Evangelion connection is cool, i mean, Gridlink has a album with a chick in a latex plugsuit, they know what they are doing, its all there. Hell, you could make some cool AMVs with these songs, I picture Major Kusanagi fighting Batou to that DSBM riff since you mentioned ghost in the shell.
Very glad to hear a Neanderthal reference! Also: keep your chin up,Death Metal Guy, we're all experiencing the same collapse of our psychic environment, rely on your internal bullshit detector!
One of the better episodes i’ve heard from you two. Very busy at the moment with philosophy classes but these records will come as a welcome break and probably genuine inspiration for my own writing. Especially the Ynkleudherhenavogyon (great band but god what a mouth-full). I think each of these bands are their own type of schizo wizard variant. I don’t really know if I can articulate it at the moment, but there’s some kinda link between BBH and those who honestly picked up what they put down, and guys like Heidegger, he’ll even Deleuze or Bergson.
Thanks man! Good to hear from you, and glad you're in the groove w/ your work. Re. BBH/Heidegger connection - absolutely! There's a lot you could do w/ that. I totally get what you mean re. Deleuze and Bergson too. Assume you're getting at the strange temporality of BBH riffs.....
@@TerminusExtremeMetalPodcast Yes the shared relationship with time is a huge thing. If there was ever a group that just captured “Duration” in the Bergsonian sense in music, it would be BBH. Another thing is that BBH, in rejecting all of modern music’s structural conventions, basically also rejected the “closed system” worship of modern (especially scientific)thought. That ability to imagine and present, as best they could, songs which feel like a real becoming rather than an equation or a contrived “evolution” progression from the simple to the complex, put them in a really interesting dialogue with Bergson and by extension Deleuze. With Heidegger it almost feels like BBH is the music he might’ve made, had he grown up in around early black metal.
@@rudi_tabootie Dude yes! That's all really well phrased, and I agree. But I think these tendencies that you're noticing in BBH, are also fundamental to BM as a whole, and they go even deeper. What all these philosophers are driving at isn't just a rejection of logical "closure," which is also true of negative-dialecticians like Adorno, Derrida, etc., but a rejection of reason / logos as the organizing principle of the world, whether it works by closural or open-ended dialectic. That tendency comes from Nietzsche, who goes after the dialectic at its root - Kant, and the Enlightenment in general (Deleuze, in his book on N, places him in direct opposition to Hegel). And Nietzsche, ofc, is fundamental to BM. Basically, what you're noticing is that true BM is part of this Nietzschean / Heideggerian tradition of antimodern thought, which Bergson and Deleuze tap into in varying ways. And musically, what's really important is the embrace of repetition, whether it's the long and impulsively wandering structures of BBH, or the rigid ritual closure of Ildjarn, Darkthrone, etc., where it's just riffA-riffB-riffA..... What makes the difference btw the 1st and 2nd rep of riffA? The difference in steadily accumulating time, understood intensively as an unfolding process, force-in-motion. RiffA rep 2 hits the way it does, because it carries the weight of Riff B, and Riff A rep1, behind it. Even with classically-influenced stuff like Emperor or Dawn, the whole organizing principle is different. Think about "I Am The Black Wizards." That's not the logical schema of classical music, or the reason-in-motion of early Romantic symphonies, w/ their (as you say) contrived evolution. One riff follows the next for the same reason as in Discharge - pure kinetic force - and when the glorious melody comes in, it's not a dialectical unfolding, it's an EVENT. - TBMG⚔
@@rudi_tabootie thanks man! 😎 just remember to cite us - Extreme Metal Podcast, Terminus. Comment on "Terminus Episode 137 - Gridlink, Sielunvihollinen, Trichomoniasis, Ynkleudherhenavogyon." TH-cam, uploaded by Terminus Extreme Metal Podcast, 9 Oct 2023, th-cam.com/video/Tn727gfJfAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XKZ6mnTXy7rL5Hu-.
Trichomoniasis"Makeshift Crematoria" is GREAT and so is the other album they released in 2023 "Harvest Of The Killing Fields"... They kinda of did do the double album thing u suggested in your review... Hardly nobody is talking about these albums (besides u) and there's no vinyl pressings of them (only streaming)... Not Cool
“Gridlink songs aren’t directly about anime” Bruh there’s a song on their first record called “Asuka” that has an End of Eva quote in the lyrics. Pretty sure there are references to other anime in the rest of their catalog but I’m not enough of a weeb to recognize them.
Well, guess I was wrong! I just wanted to distinguish Gridlink, who have their own artistic vision, from the gajillion "anime-themed" rawblack/dungeon synth/whatever projects, who are just pointing at someone else's vision. - TBMG
@@TerminusExtremeMetalPodcast Oh for sure, the band definitely have their own vision, but they're also not afraid to directly reference their inspirations lyrically or musically - like the example you guys pointed out from the new record that interpolates part of the NGE opening theme. Mighty hails to you as well. Solstice is forever!
Damn, that was deep and analytical review of Ynkleudherhenavogyon and I enjoyed it.
Honan Bleydh II is damn good and needs more attention.
Thanks a lot man, glad you enjoyed!
Another great episode. Honan Bleydh II is definitely really good and I think the guy’s best work. My other favorite by him is The Crooked Wheel of Eternity from the Venymysgourvleydh project. A little repetitive but has a sick melody driving it. Worth a listen to anyone who hasn’t heard it
Thanks a lot Scott! And thanks for the rec, I want to dig deeper into the label and that's where I'll start. The way you describe it, sounds right up my alley. - TBMG
Gridlink in theory sounds like my idea band, i love anime and i love extreme metal.
You would expect it to be riff salad but its better than that. and thats why i love it.
Most of the riffs sound like music from the game F-Zero X, maybe thats why i like that.
Ps. That Evangelion connection is cool, i mean, Gridlink has a album with a chick in a latex plugsuit, they know what they are doing, its all there.
Hell, you could make some cool AMVs with these songs, I picture Major Kusanagi fighting Batou to that DSBM riff since you mentioned ghost in the shell.
Very glad to hear a Neanderthal reference! Also: keep your chin up,Death Metal Guy, we're all experiencing the same collapse of our psychic environment, rely on your internal bullshit detector!
"back in the garage with my bullshit detector, checking it twice to make sure it's effective"
One of the better episodes i’ve heard from you two. Very busy at the moment with philosophy classes but these records will come as a welcome break and probably genuine inspiration for my own writing. Especially the Ynkleudherhenavogyon (great band but god what a mouth-full). I think each of these bands are their own type of schizo wizard variant.
I don’t really know if I can articulate it at the moment, but there’s some kinda link between BBH and those who honestly picked up what they put down, and guys like Heidegger, he’ll even Deleuze or Bergson.
Thanks man! Good to hear from you, and glad you're in the groove w/ your work. Re. BBH/Heidegger connection - absolutely! There's a lot you could do w/ that. I totally get what you mean re. Deleuze and Bergson too. Assume you're getting at the strange temporality of BBH riffs.....
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Yes the shared relationship with time is a huge thing. If there was ever a group that just captured “Duration” in the Bergsonian sense in music, it would be BBH. Another thing is that BBH, in rejecting all of modern music’s structural conventions, basically also rejected the “closed system” worship of modern (especially scientific)thought. That ability to imagine and present, as best they could, songs which feel like a real becoming rather than an equation or a contrived “evolution” progression from the simple to the complex, put them in a really interesting dialogue with Bergson and by extension Deleuze.
With Heidegger it almost feels like BBH is the music he might’ve made, had he grown up in around early black metal.
@@rudi_tabootie Dude yes! That's all really well phrased, and I agree. But I think these tendencies that you're noticing in BBH, are also fundamental to BM as a whole, and they go even deeper. What all these philosophers are driving at isn't just a rejection of logical "closure," which is also true of negative-dialecticians like Adorno, Derrida, etc., but a rejection of reason / logos as the organizing principle of the world, whether it works by closural or open-ended dialectic. That tendency comes from Nietzsche, who goes after the dialectic at its root - Kant, and the Enlightenment in general (Deleuze, in his book on N, places him in direct opposition to Hegel). And Nietzsche, ofc, is fundamental to BM. Basically, what you're noticing is that true BM is part of this Nietzschean / Heideggerian tradition of antimodern thought, which Bergson and Deleuze tap into in varying ways. And musically, what's really important is the embrace of repetition, whether it's the long and impulsively wandering structures of BBH, or the rigid ritual closure of Ildjarn, Darkthrone, etc., where it's just riffA-riffB-riffA..... What makes the difference btw the 1st and 2nd rep of riffA? The difference in steadily accumulating time, understood intensively as an unfolding process, force-in-motion. RiffA rep 2 hits the way it does, because it carries the weight of Riff B, and Riff A rep1, behind it. Even with classically-influenced stuff like Emperor or Dawn, the whole organizing principle is different. Think about "I Am The Black Wizards." That's not the logical schema of classical music, or the reason-in-motion of early Romantic symphonies, w/ their (as you say) contrived evolution. One riff follows the next for the same reason as in Discharge - pure kinetic force - and when the glorious melody comes in, it's not a dialectical unfolding, it's an EVENT. - TBMG⚔
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Exactly! Absolute banger post i’ll have to steal some of these ideas for myself.
@@rudi_tabootie thanks man! 😎 just remember to cite us -
Extreme Metal Podcast, Terminus. Comment on "Terminus Episode 137 - Gridlink, Sielunvihollinen, Trichomoniasis, Ynkleudherhenavogyon." TH-cam, uploaded by Terminus Extreme Metal Podcast, 9 Oct 2023, th-cam.com/video/Tn727gfJfAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XKZ6mnTXy7rL5Hu-.
Trichomoniasis"Makeshift Crematoria" is GREAT
and so is the other album they released in 2023 "Harvest Of The Killing Fields"...
They kinda of did do the double album thing u suggested in your review...
Hardly nobody is talking about these albums (besides u) and there's no vinyl pressings of them (only streaming)...
Not Cool
“Gridlink songs aren’t directly about anime”
Bruh there’s a song on their first record called “Asuka” that has an End of Eva quote in the lyrics. Pretty sure there are references to other anime in the rest of their catalog but I’m not enough of a weeb to recognize them.
Well, guess I was wrong! I just wanted to distinguish Gridlink, who have their own artistic vision, from the gajillion "anime-themed" rawblack/dungeon synth/whatever projects, who are just pointing at someone else's vision. - TBMG
Also, mighty hails to a fellow Solstice appreciator ⚔
@@TerminusExtremeMetalPodcast Oh for sure, the band definitely have their own vision, but they're also not afraid to directly reference their inspirations lyrically or musically - like the example you guys pointed out from the new record that interpolates part of the NGE opening theme.
Mighty hails to you as well. Solstice is forever!
@@AzureMurakumo "Christs may come and Christs may go, but Solstice is forever." - Reverend Bizarre, sort of