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Thanks Brother! Been a subscriber to your channel for a bit!!

I love it. It’s all running great now.

Nice Craig! That p224 is a sweet! Glad you got the p229 mags to work. I agree. We have plenty of laws. We don’t need more.

It has gotten better. I was disappointed too. I have gotten sub MOA and about 1 MOA reliably with good 168 grain SMK ammo.

If doing that I’d want to make sure it was a flat top and it still fed but it’s probably wise!

Thanks for watching, my friend!

Gotcha. Yah getting everyone to the notary is such a pain. I’ve only done that once but took me a couple of months!!

​@@triggerbarPhD yeah, father-in-law needs to be on the trust in case he wants to go hunting with it or I go outside of town so he can put it up. Great chat TBP.

I think its a worthy round and that's the key, making sure it runs in your gun. I have rounds that run in mine but don't run in others and others have round s that run in theirs but not in mine!!

lol. Bbbbbbut James Bond!! 😂🤣

@@triggerbarPhD i hear ya lol 😆

I tried 9x18 makerov and that didn’t work. I don’t know about 9x21 and 23

Thanks so much my friend!!

@ You are very welcome 🙏 Sir!!

Nope. It was based off the .220 Russian case. You can make it the way you described but that's not the pedigree of the case.

Yes I’ve heard from others that it’s not true on every gun. I’m glad to hear that yours doesn’t work that way!! Not to big of a deal anyways if you know the gun.

I think so. That tiny bit more expansion makes a difference but I’d rather have 0.05 less expansion for the few more inches of penetration.

Thanks! I end up carrying it a lot just because I need that deep concealment more but man I wish these were reliable in this gun. That’s my knock against the ruger, the ruger runs everything.

@triggerbarPhD it may be the goofy rattling of the LCP Max that everyone complains about. Loose tolerance lets it handle everything perhaps

I had one and for me it just was painful to shoot. It kept pinching my trigger finger. Maybe just that gun.

@triggerbarPhD it's definitely not a particularly good gun. I've heard other people have that issue but it's been fine for me. Always groups low though no matter what I do

Thanks. Yah when I bought it all they said was it may not run subsonic ammo with certain flow through suppressors. But they never said without a can. I mean no big deal but they should have that. Sounds like they do. What’s surprising to me is some people in these comments claim theirs run fine without a can subsonic. Weird.

Thanks! Only about 3 yards.

@@triggerbarPhD I think thats a more realistic test range for short barrel .380s. 👍 And I agree with the part regarding clogged or unexpanded hollow points always having more penetration. I suppose there’s a point to testing them with the barrier cloth in order to determine which JHPs will expand reliability, as well as how deep they will or won’t penetrate. I believe that’s the concept (but not always the reality) of the Critical Defense design, reliable expansion and penetration, the elusive holy grail of the defensive .380.

Glad you found it!

Looks like you found it

That's a great point on the JHP vs FMJ. You have great testing my friend. I've still got to get my videos edited and send you the link. I did more testing 2 days ago with HSD but with a 3.25" barrel. It got about 10.5" of penetration, through 4 layers of denim, 1/4" MDF, 2.5" of gel before the MDF. No expansion of the bullet. All clogged with material in the JHP but the JHP made a nasty dirty track that definately was bigger than a typical FMJ would make. I have some and want to test what a flat top FMJ would do compared to a non expanding JHP in 380.

@triggerbarPhD maybe I can mail you a package. I'm mostly interested long barrel. It's about fluid dynamics the jhp will interact destroy more tissue the fmj it flows around that round ogive.

Ha! Well hopefully you got it all straightened out and I bet is shoots sweet. That was probably a great trade!!

@triggerbarPhD best trade yet. The recoil was so hard it was breaking the stud on the scope ring. Bought a 40 moa rail from mountain tactical and some adjustable MOA mounts for long-range shooting. Had a recoil reduction made for the barrel and cerakote the whole barrel. Have Gotten .38" groups with 165 gr bullets.

Those are pretty good rounds. I have a video coming out on them next week!

great points! I used to have an LCP max but for whatever reason it wasn't super comfortable to me to shoot (loved carrying it though). I really liked the BG 2.0 as I find it more enjoyable to shoot and easy to carry/conceal. It's a good point about the standard for 380. I've heard that logic before that this is just an up close tool and I think there is a lot of sense to that. I still prefer more penetration and there are other self defense rounds that get that. Also I do think the flat nose or semi wadcutters are decent in 380 as they won't over penetrated like perhaps a 9mm might but will still do some good crushing in the target. But agreed, is that 10" or 8" that's needed? All good questions. I like the 380 because I can get a super small gun that conceals very easily and can always have it with me. Doesn't matter what you want to carry but what you have with you!!

@@triggerbarPhD I agree, all good points. The reason I would like to see it tested as a short barrel defensive round at 3-7 feet is because I think at that close range on average .380 would be used it would get better penetration and performance for a defense round, not at the 10 foot distance. Test a tool under the conditions it is intended to be used. Don’t test a tool using a standard it wasn’t intended for.

With your 2.0 have you experienced any feeding issues with the Speer Gold Dot (being it's a flatnose)

Thanks Chris! I appreciate that!!

They don't go straight through with 380 ACP. It's too weak of a round, it just goes deeper when it's clogged. I've got videos coming up testing exactly this part of it. And preview, they don't over penetrate. Different story with 9mm, 357 sig, 357 mag. Even 38 special +p can go pretty deep if the bullet doesn't open up. Not the 380 acp.

@triggerbarPhD I've seen the Whole You tube Nation, I didn't say it would hardcast or even FMJ but if it don't tumble it WILL got through a 16 inch clear ballistic block. Some 38spl will do well not the average factory loads. 90 grain soft lead like fed punch and Hornady critical D. in Short barrel 380 seems to be the few that mostly open and get 12 inch.

Thank-you!!!

Sounds like the start of a joke but I'm not in Alaska or from Alaska but I bet it's not a round often carried up there.

@triggerbarPhD It was supposed to be a joke, thought you were based in Alaska!

Dang, that sounds very similar to what I had. PSA was pretty good with me in getting it fixed up though so I'd personally do 1 more test then send it back. You can do it straight through FedEx and don't have to use an FFL! They are pretty quick too.

I have the same holster!! Very nice! I just got some silver tips, I haven't tested them yet but its on the agenda.

I'd find something better in .380 then Silvertip it frags and WAY underpenetrates real world

I had some issues with them in both of these guns, otherwise I'd go with that.

They have a fantastic reputation with all the other calibers, I think this is a great round. My beretta has struggled with JHP rounds so this might be the best round for that gun!!

What can one expect from a faster barrel twist rate??

Yup, I have a few videos proving that with a slower rate same barrel length kimber micro 380. Typically, not always but often in my testing it gets deeper penetration and better expansion.

Typically I’m seeing deeper penetration and when compared to a similar length barrel, more reliable expansion. In non expanding rounds like extreme defenders it’s goes deeper.

Great point. I just did more testing 380 with clothing and denim and I do see the bullet not opening up but it still gets pretty good penetration. So I could see that. I think I'd want at least a semi flat top vs a traditional FMJ.

hahahahha. Yah, still lacking a little bit but not bad especially since you probably won't be taking 20 yard shots with the little gun.

@@triggerbarPhD Shoot, at 20 yards, I am hoping I can still get out of it.😁

lol, feels like that right??? I’ve got 6 more..and I shot another video yesterday…but I’ve got 3 new hand gun videos 9mm, 10mm, 380 and a new 8.6 blackout also already shot and ready for editing so hopefully not too much 380 ammo testing!!

@@triggerbarPhD I'll be interested in the 10mm. 8.6 Blk to me is like the semi-auto .30-30 or 7.62x39.

So far so good, just shot a second video yesterday. No failures. But I do need to drift the sight like you said. How is yours?

@triggerbarPhD since fixing the sights, it's definitely running better. I want to get one more range session under my belt before i knock the accuracy of it. No malfunctions, although the slide hates locking back on the ten round mag.

@Millzspec dang well glad it’s shooting better. I’ve not had an issue with slide lock back yet. Both my mades seem to work fine. I wonder if you have a bad mag? Hmmm. Does it do it on both?

@@triggerbarPhD just the ten rounder. I haven't tinkered with the follower or spring yet, I'm sure i could get it to work. I've been struggling to get this cheap 22 ar working, thats the time consuming process right now.

I felt the groove on this round and was able to hit it! For me a dot makes a huge difference.

Honestly, the old standard of a semi wad cutter is probably about the best carry in terms of performance and cost.

I’m with you on both of those points. I should not have to be doing the polishing!!!!

@@triggerbarPhD Even though I'm a broken record on it, I like that this gel test can be compared, as directly as possible, to previous tests. I'm torn on the manufacturing debate. I have a handful of old school guns, and fairly newish guns that have really good, to maybe highest level, fit and finish. S&W is an example, they used to really know how to make a good revolver, wish I hadn't sent some down the road, lol. Today, most of the guns come with cut corners, but at least we can get them, and the majority are far easier to fiddle with, than ever. I guess never say never, but there's no 5k semi-custom gun in my sights, and half that has to really wow me. But, good thing for others, feeling differently.

Yes I still carry the federal hydra shok deep. If I could and it worked in mine I’d probably carry the underwood extreme defender but it doesn’t work in mine very well so im sticking with the hydra shok deep. Thanks again! I’ve got more extended testing of that round coming up with clothing and MDF for more real world testing. Videos have been shot just need to edit them.

Awesome!! Yah this is a good one!

Crazy how big they get. No my daughter photographed these in Utah while she was there. I grew up hunting mule deer and now that I’m back East I forget how much bigger they are.

I think mine is right around there, thanks for the clarification!

Mule deer grow different than white tail. Always surprises me after only seeing white tail for a while.