I find it interesting you say all this and then drive a Lexus ? I’d think you would bought a $30,0000 Les costing 4 runner that’s even more capable ? Everything you said applies to Lexus gx verses a 4 runner . Or will you deny this fact ? That said I agree that 50 percent people who spend on lots the glamp set don’t use it .
@Adventure_Rig most people don't understand that the snorkel was originally designed to move your intake up high where dust is less dense and you can add a pre-filter.
@@MrJoelinq77 Uhh is this Lexus "beat up"?? ...or do you sooooooooo badly want to _imagine_ that it's "beat up" to justify your jealousy? 😉✌️ The Overglampers get so obsessed with skids, then are afraid to use them... oh the irony 😆 🤣
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADthe irony is the myriad stupid comments you make in this video showing you have zero clue what you're talking about. Or to pu**y to actually go anywhere.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADyou didn’t notice or see the bodywork hitting the rocks? The sudden stop at the very beginning of the clip when something underneath hit the rocks?
I'd just like to see the underside of this Lexus after an off road adventure in Moab or Sand Hollow State park in Utah. This video would be more entertaining without the OP's obnoxious "outrage" towards overlander owners.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 I built a platform in the back of my F150 6.5' bed and put two of those Home Depot foam mattresses down. Made a queen sized bed and it was awesome for camping. All our gear fit under the platform. Then we had a kid. . . . made a little crib out of 2x4's that went across the bed rails so that he was elevated over our feet. Tried it once. There was just too much crap that had to come along with the baby to comfortably stuff it in the truck and so we end up buying a camper. Especially if you are in bear country and have to bring everytthing inside the truck at night.
@@Jay-me7gw love my ram single cab 6.5' box , all the same size next would be a single cab 8' box 4x4 not many sold ,suburban 4x4 has 6' behind the2nd row ,or chevy express van
Yeah like Overland expo which is like a tourist trap. Its ridiculous with all the sales and junk. If you really get out on the trails you will see the garbage that people buy without ever needing it. It's a shame. I only went to the expo once in AZ. Never again.
The more built the rig, the closer it stays to the driveway or mall. When you get way way out there, it’s usually hunters in a 1986 Dodge Dakota on bald highway tires that you find at the end of the trail.
@@thecryptidsdenIt doesn't take an overbuilt rig to get to the end of most trails. It takes a good driver. And if you would like to get home as well, it still doesn't take all the extra mods and gear. It takes a reliable vehicle and some basic mechanical knowledge for those instances where you do break something.
When I drive from Georgia to turkey hunt in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico for two weeks and live out of my vehicle and maybe do some fly fishing if I limit out early, or to Superior National Forest in Minnesota to grouse hunt and fly fish for salmon and steelhead it will be over built. Lots of weight is involved to live out of a vehicle, off grid for two weeks on some sketchy trails 40 or more miles from the nearest pavement. Yeah, I can get back there in any decent off-road vehicle, but can I carry the food, water, fuel and all the other gear to live out of it for two weeks? Not to mention being comfortable with the ability to move my camp rather easily as often as the situation dictates?
@@LiterallyOverTheHillAdventuresthat sir, is a different use case and practically dictates your needs. Not gonna lie, wish I had the locale and time to do those adventures. Enjoy!
He isn't right and he is putting forth some very dangerous advice. He is correct about people buying a bunch of stuff that they don't need. As he expands what he is saying, it becomes crystal clear that this man is our dream client... I'm part of an off-road club who does off-road vehicle recovery. I'm also a van lifer who tows a chopped F350. It's my trail rig. Anyway, this guy is telling people to dump the recovery gear because he never uses it... He never uses it because he never goes on trails hard enough to where it would be needed. But soon enough he will end up in a situation he can't get himself out of and he will call me to come save him... For a minimum of $450 to come out, $100 an hour to get him out of the situation. $8 per mile to tow his rig to a shop and if he were nice, a case of beer for me and my friends to enjoy out on the trails... all on his dime. This man is literally how we fund our rigs and trips lol.
@@tr-lj2vx I was wondering the same. Most "overlanding" is people driving down short, high-traffic offroad trails, where most of this stuff is frivolous (but perhaps not 100% unnecessary). When I think of overlanding, I think of multi-day, backcountry trips where some of this crap would actually be very handy. The appeal here is to the people doing shorter stuff. The point he's making is Experience + Correct Car + Planning > Minimal Mods > Jewelry.
@@Ryan-dc6lj But telling people not to take recovery gear shows how little knowledge this man has when it comes to overloading. Even a short ten mile trip into a desert canyon road could end up in a situation where there is no cellphone, 120 degree heat, and not a single person coming down that trail for a month. Colorado is much the same, an unexpected snow storm could have a person trapped... You don't need the racks, the shiny rims, brush guards etc. but going out with little or no recovery gear, pure stupidity.
@@tr-lj2vx yea simple recovery is equivalent to having ATs and skid-plates. I keep a compressor, hitch ring, and a cheap kinetic rope in a box. Never needed to be pulled out though. Really I think the point is that we don't need thousands of pounds of overkill gear and to just go with the basics.
I slept under my humvee or on the hood with just my poncho liner or sometimes my sleeping bag on top of me. We don’t sleep inside the bag in the war zone!
Oooofff I've never been kicked in the nuts by a video. Well played sir. Seriously though. This is a very well thought out and informed video. I am one of those rigged out overbuilt Jeepers. I spend most of my days off in the bush either with my Jeep or SxS. I do admit I don't need a lot of the crap I have but after decades of growing up in the bush and spending time far from civilization I have been in situations where I did get stranded and had to find my way back to civilization. So it's more of a sense of security and "what if" than practicality. Loved the video and subscribed. Cheers from Northern Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Exactly. Going off road and away from civilization means you need to be self sufficient. This guy clearly doesn't do that since he doesn't need anything but a stock vehicle. Must think AAA will come save him.
Living in central Texas there’s as many decked out lifted jeeps as there is pickup trucks in an area that has no public land, unless you own a ranch with rough terrain they are just grocery getters.
It’s not overlanding at all. I mean I “overland” every day just walking around. It’s camping plain and simple. But “overlanding” sounds so much more impressive, and this is merica. Always ego. A dirt road to even a dispersed site is not “overlanding”. So ridiculous really.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious unspoken truth. My approach is to go out with what I have and only buy things if I genuinely feel the need after camping few times.
There is no wrong setup, every setup is a result of your needs according to what you have experienced, then you know what you want on your setup and you needed. Like an awning, you might not need it, but I do. Come with us on a week adventure on a freezing temperature and you will realize how comfortable my setup is, do not mock people’s rig setup because your type of adventure is not the same as ours or others, let us just respect each others way of adventures because everyone of us have a different level of Overland adventure. If That’s the type of adventure you want then so be it and I respect that.
He's hardly alone in this assesment ive seen other videos by other “ Overlanders” and they more or less say the same thing, most of the cools stuff people are sold is marketing and not necissity. He’s not critical of your set up he’s critical of the gear collecting.
I agree 100%. He's right that you don't need all the stuff to go camping, but I enjoy all the stuff and gear, it's fun to me and i use all of it. And Im not bashing my vehicle on the rocks to prove I don't need a lift.
@@alaska1girls -Yes including the gears, we brought gears because we needed them, and people have different needs according to the comfort level on their adventures they want. Let’s just respect each other’s setup or gears we bring, some people wants to bring high lift jack while others wants bottle jack or some would bring rotopax for extra fuel while others don’t… so be it, what’s important is we go out there to explore and adventure in the wild and we have everything we need for self reliance.
@@Wanderer25 You ever heard of Jerry cans? Watch footage from the Hawaii fires and see how people relied on those 4x4s. I always stick to the philosophy of, "it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".
That's ME ! 🤣 I totally have a four star hotel in the back 🤣The thing I am trying to compensate for is getting too old to safely paddle Class IV rapids. Sure I am getting old and broken down but my truck can totally fill that emotional void. I should name it "The Compensator"
It's admirable to have such self awareness and honesty. Seriously. I can absolutely see how easy it would be to get sucked into gadgets. My husband and I are both that way and I'm worse than he is. 🤣
@@zsuzsuspetals It's probably a safe bet that anyone from a backpacking or kayaking background realizes how little we actually need in order to have a great outdoor experience. Hec, just camping out of a vehicle of any kind is an absolute luxury 😁
Agree with some, not with all, but a good overall message in the video. My experience was that I bought (mostly overbought) gear before I knew if I really needed it because I didn't have a mentor or teacher with experience to guide me. Overbuying gear was a crutch when I was less experienced. The more experience I got, my gear became more purposeful and need based. It's amazing how far a stock 4runner or Jeep will get you with a tent, canopy, small grill, and some bins packed nicely in the back.
I know a guy who traded in his 2023 CX5 turbo, went out and bought an overpriced 2024 4runner pro. And he paid almost 65k just to look cool. He will have 935 dollar car payments for 84 months. The dealership ripped him off, they gave his mazda lower than the retail value price and he still traded in his car because the 4runner pro was the last brand new one they had. $835X84. He is going to end up paying over 85k for stupid 4runner. Some people are braindead.
I have a 2.5" lift on my tacoma with 32" tires and that's it. But thank you for this video, I've been saying all this stuff for years. Just pitch a tent and cook over a fire like a man.
Stay in your house then lol. Setting up a 4x4 rv in a scenic remote part of where ever seems sac religious and counter intuitive to the premise all together.
@@g__wizz I get it except I’ve been backpacking wilderness and backcountry since I was a little kid. Setting up tents in the dirt, or just sleeping on the ground. I have a family of 5 now, and maybe we just want to do a quick trip in the truck without so much hassle, so we can spend some extra time enjoying each other’s company. We’re already cheating by using a 4x4 anyways. Original “overlanding” was, and always will be on foot in my opinion. I think a lot of the extra tech is cosplay. But some of it does serve a practical purpose in my opinion.
@@andyapplebee6060 apply the same rules for good backpacking technique, light weight/minimalism also function/necessity to dictate mods and you will see most of the overland stuff come up short on a vehicle.
@@g__wizz yep I get it and I’m that guy, but you can take it to extremes either way. Some gear and technology serves us well in the right circumstances. In my scenario I’m trying to create a reasonably comfortable situation that will allow my family to enjoy the outdoors. I don’t even have a rooftop tent or anything like that. I’m just saying I’m open to it. It would make managing myself and 4 others much less stressful in many scenarios.
I off road camped for most of my life with my main gear being a camp cot, sleeping bag and Coleman cooler. When overlanding became a word I suddenly had a coworker go out and buy a brand new jeep and spend thousands tricking it out. I kept asking him every Monday if he took it anywhere. He literally took it out one time in the four years I worked with him, and it was 2N02 back road to big bear (since I see you must live nearby). Meanwhile I was going out at least once a month way out in BFE in the deserts and mountains in my mostly stock FJ cruiser which has been called a hoopty because it has dings and such, you know, signs of use. 😂
@oldakela6834 ya spot on... same crap happened in the 80s when the yuppies discovered moutain biking... went out and bought expensive bikes, helmets, gear, racing regalia, then proceeded to go out once then park it in the garage lol 😆 love 2N02 ❤️
Years ago when my family first moved to Colorado we decided to go hiking one weekend and to explore our new home state. We made a wrong turn and ended up on a “jeep” trail in a family sedan. My dad being a rather skilled driver and knowledgeable on how to handle off road situations navigated us home with no problems. Hard core jeep guys were cheering us on for getting out in nature and followed us out just to make sure we didn’t get stuck. Congratulated my dad for handling the car skillfully and gave us directions home. You don’t need the stuff… you need the skill
I cut my teeth offroading in a lil Hyundai Sonata out of necessity, and as a result I've yet to encounter something my almost stock truck can't handle--it may not have the clearance to handle everything gracefully (hence my one mod being skidplates), but it does it. Every vehicle is going to have its limits, but experience and good line choice go farther than any modification, and up to a point, goes further even than vehicle choice.
“Overlanding” is best related to what began in Australia decades ago, where sleeping on the ground is too close to so many things that will kill you. The main difference between overlanding and car camping is that car camping is typically in a campground and overlanding is typically dispersed camping. You’ll need to bring things like water and be more self-sufficient. Agree that most of the gear is unnecessary and undesirable. Learn how to drive off-road before you start overloading your vehicle with hundreds of pounds of gear. I took my stock 4Runner with Michelin street tires through Imogene Pass, and it would’ve been harder with additional weight and a higher center of gravity. I have a smaller ARB compressor so I can air down my tires for better traction. To me, the rooftop tent is the worst - I built a simple sleeping platform in the back and got some bug netting for the windows because I prefer to sleep inside the vehicle. I also prefer a small fridge and a small battery pack to keep it powered versus a cooler. Less is better, but a rear locker would be nice.
Absolutely, sleeping off the ground away from creepy crawlers, slitherers, and fanged clawed mammals regardless of size is an absolute necessity. Ask me how know? Not to mention mid night thunder storms with 50 mph gales.
Cant speak for everyone, but I would like the room, handling and safety aspects of a big truck. It seems the people that complain the most are those that just can't afford it and want to bring others down. In fact, when I see a small parking spot, I look at the developers as cheap idiots who don't see what people want: bigger vehicles. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
In my area, that venn diagram is a circle. It's much easier to cram your bed full of bolted in overlanding gear and sacrifice payload capacity with offroad suspension and thousands of crap on your roof racks if you never actually tow or haul anything with your truck. In fairness, being a dedicated offroader is a totally valid use case for a truck, and one that actually sees dirt regularly is a totally different beast a pavement princess, but it's usually pretty apparent when something is just for looks and the fantasy of adventure rather than a well thought out offroading setup built according to needs.
@@MeJonTheDon You mean can't afford the BS usurious mortgage payments? Anybody who plays the "I'm rich, you're poor " card is the WORST kind of poser...
@gcarson19 i didn't say I could afford it nor do I have one, but for those that can good for them, they bought something they want. Too many nosey people worrying about what others want to spend their money on, rather than focusing on themselves. Further, most people didn't just buy a vehicle recently, they bought their vehicle when things were more affordable. The average price of new vehicles when you take out the bulk discounted fleet sales is around the mid $50k range, so basically everyone buying now is in that boat, not just truck owners. Pickups historically and to this day are also better priced than most similar sized SUVs, so provide a good value for people on a relative basis
Thank you. This video was humbling. I have a 4x4 and a few years back I bought a rooftop tent. I’ve fallen into the trap of thinking I need so much more gear (front and rear lockers, air compressor, fridge, solar, heated water tank, diesel heater, a/c unit, full size spare, recovery boards, steel bumper with winch and the list goes on) that I haven’t even taken my family to go on a trip I ages. Granted: the first time I really pushed my vehicle and into uncharted territory I instantly got stuck and had to wait hours for recovery, so that did scar me a bit. But your video has given me the courage to find some easy trails and get back out there to do what really matters, and detach from our cushy everyday and make memories with my family.
@paulwiest8167 Thank you for your honesty... you truly right... some may get triggered by the truth, but the fact is the "look of freedom adventure" is the primary overlanding-drug. We've lived offroad in the Mojave for 13 years now, and nobody has the regalia hanging off the sides... obe heard similar anecdotes from people who are hermits in Alaska who also watch the overglampers pass through: GX460 Recovers Other Vehicles OFF-ROAD [and sometimes gets stuck]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSK-iptuf5fEZsKhgZ3fbZnh.html
I went to panama and back in a 1990 suburban 4x4, no winch, no crap, couple 5 gallon jerry cans of oil for oil changes etc, tempurpedic mattress .3 years on the road all through central america, only needed 4x4 six times. Thats it.
That's because Americans have confused overlanding with off road car camping... The US version, lower 48 certainly, you are never far from tarmac and services... But overlanding did exist decades ago, it comes from Australia, Africa, Asia, and still exists, and requires equipment that helps when you are actually away from civilisation... So yeah, spot on, you are not overlanding...
Yep I spoke to this in my comment. traveling "over land" - over landing is not going to a camp ground for the weekend and sleeping in your car or going off roading.
To be fair, there are still areas in the lower 48 where real overlanding is possible and there are some people that do build out for overseas adventures. The places you mention are absolutely a different beast though. "Overlanding" here has gotten mixed up with caravaning culture. For what most of these people actually wanna do, they'd be better served with a caravan towing a 4-wheeler
never far from tarmac and services is great when you're talking about a vehicle that isn't broken down on the trail. 4 hours in by car and 113 degrees out in the Southwest....ain't no body making it 40 miles on foot in those temps without enough water. So if you're 25 hours from pavement in the outback or 4 hours from pavement in Utah. A broken rig and no cell service with dwindling supplies is gonna be deadly either way without a satellite communicator. and at that point, the argument of tarmac and service is moot. only reason your ass is being saved is because you were smart enough to know satellite is your best option. So without it, you're likely dead in either situation.....don't go at it alone, or if you do, have a satellite back up.
The people whining about purposefully built trucks/suvs are the ones who apparently never gone on a trip where to they needed haul water, extra gas, propane, or have had to use max trax & a shovel for self recovery.
I want to thank you for being real. You have given me a new perspective on overlanding. I am brand new to this and don’t make much money and I was freaking out at the cost for the type of vehicle and gear that I thought I needed. After watching this I realised I don’t need all the over hyped bs if I just want to hit some easy and simple trails. Thank you and I will repay your honesty by subscribing and supporting your channel. Keep up the good work 😊
@@ironman3023 Thank you for subscribing.. this video is for people like you... 😃 we get some negative comments for exposing the truth, but enough is enough ❤️ ✌️
I am just 4'10, 99 lbs woman, so for 12 years with two 5th gen 4Runners, my overlanding was folding the rear seats down and sleeping in the back of my 4Runners on a mattress made to fit in a 4Runner with seats down lol. My only mods were KO2s, and for my 2019 TRD OR, the Magnuson supercharger, KO2s and a long range gas tank, for longer more remote expeditions into the mountains. I had no light bars or anything like that. I used a portable lithium battery for charging my phone, flashlight, laptop etc, some easy to make food like (MRE type easy), water and could go overlanding up to a week, just like that. I live in British Columbia with 2 bear species, record size moose, wolves and mountain lions. I'm not sleeping on the roof lol. I was a car camper lol I have a GX 550 Overtrail now, and look forward to torture testing it Great video!
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Sure! I always like your perspectives. I have been car camping for 16 years, long before TH-cam made it a trend called "overlanding" lol. I'll never understand why TH-cam "overlanders" need to bring everything, (including the kitchen sink) with them, and the supplies to cook Michelin star gourmet meals 😂 I'll admit I am interested in the added benefit of being ably to plug in to and use hybrid battery power, while car camping, but waiting to see if the GX 550 will get a hybrid model! If not, I'll make due with my portable battery pack lol Thanks!
As one of the people that does long range, multi-state/country journeys, I fully agree with the overall theme here. People very often ask me how to get started and what mods to make. I tell them this: Get basic safety and recovery gear, then add whatever camping gear you have plus fuel. Burn fuel. Lots and lots of fuel. Don't every buy anything or make a modification to a vehicle unless it solves a specific problem that you know you have and annoys you to the point where it is taking away from the experience. The rest takes care of itself. That said, the term overland came into the commercial automotive world in 1908. Overland Motors > Willys Overland >GPW/MB>JEEP. I've been doing this all my life and we never called it "car camping". It was called Jeeping. Even if you drove a Bronco or a Scout. It was Jeeping. Car Camping might sound more inclusive or whatever, but that has only been a term for about the same amount of time as the "Overland Industrial Complex" has been around. Also, trails don't give themselves diamonds. That's just stupid. Using the same rating scale, I've seen trails that are blue squares that would eat your soccer-mobile for lunch AND double blacks diamonds that look like the mall parking lot. The "look" you refer to mimics those of us that embark on long distance, vehicle based adventure travel. We don't care about "trails" and have to be ready for anything from taking a business meeting in the parking lot of In-n-Out to accidentally turning onto an 8' shelf road with a 7'6" wide rig pulling a trailer (I did that last week). All of that typed, I also can't stand all of the crap people have hanging off the side of their vehicles. I carry some big stuff at all times. . .chain saw, ax, shovel, air compressor, recovery kit and on and on. . .but you can't see any of it from the outside. Looks like a stock Jeep with a small lift and slightly larger tires. Tires that have driven in 2 oceans, the gulf of Mexico and the Sea of Cortez, but the guy at the grocery store doesn't need to know that.
I agree with most of what you say except, I have a question. How many kids or pets do you bring with you? With 5 of us in the vehicle I couldn’t imagine fitting everything inside the vehicle.
Yup, city dwellers looking for a break in the pretentious life they chose and they still can't see all that equipment represents the stress they are trying to escape
@soosilly79 you hit the nail on the head! They are bringing the cubicle with them.. their ball and chains... some trails look like traffic-jams on the weekends... plugged up for miles with overglampers re-creating the 5-day rat-race on the trails... the irony
My coworker has all kinds of expensive camping gear on his 4runner and he never goes anywhere with it. Large falken all terrain tires, stupid ladder in the back, 1k dollar roof rack ect ect. His truck is always spotless. So pathetic.
yep... same crap in the 80s with mountain bikes.... they had all the $3k bikes and never hit the trails... ever... basically it's one sad cry for help ❤️ ✌️
This guy is speaking BRUTAL truth. I think all of us-men, need to hear this type of message from another guy. Sincerely, listening to this guy's message can save a person a s*it ton of cash. BRAVO to this guy.
I think what he said is a little overboard. Especially when he said guys were “overcompensating” buy buying all of that stuff. “Overlanding” is a hobby so who’s to say what they can and cannot spend their hard earned money on? Guys like this? No to each their own I say and do whatever makes you happy. Also if someone says someone else is overcompensating for something most likely that individual is very self conscious.
My neighbor has his Toyota Sequoia all decked out with everything you mentioned and the snorkel too. He drives it back and forth to work. My over landing vehicle is a Toyota Corolla with peeling paint and Rocky Mountain pinstripes. It’s amazing what that thing will do and the gas mileage I get every weekend is absolute freedom. I couldn’t agree more with this video.
Yep. Just a stock 2d wrangler sport with skids and good mt's has gotten me anywhere I want to car camp. Tent, water, recovery straps, clothes, and food fits in the back just fine even with a passenger. Don't need all the overlanding playset stuff. I do have an extra 5gal gas though, just makes sense to be prepared.
Explaining to people that a stock 2door Wrangler has the absolute BEST cardinal angles is an exercise in futility. Approach, breakover, departure. 2 door wrangler is objectively the best. Explaining that the GX460 wheelbase is SHORTER than a 4-door Rubucon is also an exercise in futility lol... cardinal angles have been displaced by "looks" and GAS/Gear Aqusition Synrome
I’ve been doing vehicle-based adventuring and camping since I was an infant, Yes, that would be the 1960s all we ever had was a basic ground tent which was military surplus, some sleeping bags we borrowed from the grandparents, a Coleman stove, and a Coleman lantern sometimes we borrowed lawn chairs from family. Eventually, my parents bought a used camper van that allowed us to cook and sleep inside the van, but that was after the family grew by one child and one dog. I’ve been full-time on the road for about four years all of my gear when I started was stuff we already had, or I repurposed from bikepacking and backpacking. I don’t buy new gear until the old gear fails or I absolutely have to have something for quality of life. My first gear purchase was a foam rubber mattress for the back of my vehicle and then I got a partial sponsorship for a 12V refrigerator which just allowed me to stay offgrid longer. I have been using what ever used vehicles I already had. Once I started full time with my partner and my daughter we bought a very basic tiny 10’ camper trailer to hold the additional gear.
@TheOffroadCamper we did it since the 1990s, there was no name for it, we just threw some camping crap in the back of box-Jeep Cherokee and went off into the woods with our girlfriends 😆
This marketing of creating perceived needs of off roading has created a whole industry and a new revenue stream for automotive manufacturers. I used to drive my old 1971 Plymouth Satellite on dirt roads and slept in the back seat. Had water and a shovel in the truck and amazingly went to few out of the way places and had a great time. Then drove that same car to work...Had no money for specialized equipment . You have shown what a mostly stock vehicle can do with some careful driving.
Great video. I bought a 2018 GX460 last year. I started looking at lifts, full roof racks, spare tire swings, etc. Thankfully I never moved forward with any of the mods that I thought I needed. I realized that as much as I wish I was some overlander hitting the deep wilderness every weekend, the reality is my vehicle will spend most of its life on the pavement. Since my primary goal was to have a vehicle for beach driving and car camping, I just upgraded the stock HW tires to 275/65/18 Toyo Open Country on the stock wheels. Did the zip tie method and have no rubbing. I went with Inno aero crossbars on the stock rails, because the only purpose for my roof rack is to carry kayaks. I do plan to get some rock sliders, mainly because I hate the stock side steps. But the vehicle is more than capable for my needs, even when stock. Also, I started watching random 4x4 videos from Australia and thought it was funny that most of these guys have very plain looking, lightly modded 4x4s and they're so known for their off road culture. If they can manage without the crazy "rigs" I see all over TH-cam, I certainly can!
even if you were going into the "deep wilderness" you need less than you think... watch the yt videos of what they do with Toyotas in Africa 😆.... you'll love it 😀
It's just like the car enthusiast industry. Everyone can get by with a Prius. No one needs to modify their car to make it faster, make it handle better, and look better and to make it your own. That's what car enthusiasts have doing since the horseless carriage was invented. The "Overlanding Industrial Complex" creates jobs and opportunities in small businesses in America. 🤷🏽♂️ That front bumper, skid plate, undercarriage protection, rear tire carrier, after-market wheels made in the USA, recovery gear made in the USA, and the rest of the overlanding gear help the American economy. That's capitalism. 🤷🏽♂️ I have a GX, and it's tight on space, especially when you pack your family and two 70 lbs dogs. I'm glad to have a roof rack and storage boxes. Otherwise, there would be no room for gear. I'd say to each is own. If someone wants to build an "overland" vehicle, good for them. You are free to do what you want in the United States.
I agree, I have a rack out of necessity and will definitely need a secure storage box with family of 4, a 70 pound dog and inlaws/friends here and there but I think he's making the point to make one stop for a sec and actually think about what's really needed. Most of the losers I see around here in LA have a tent, boxes, lifts, gas cans, water cans, huge tires on a pristine clean truck. Makes me laugh my ass off. Sure, you can do whatever you want and it may support small business in the USA which I like (like Sherpa) but if it makes even a small percentage stop and think first... wait I do not need this shit... that's a win.
When you drive a unimog from morocco to Namibia, with a satellite phone and secret compartments to hide weapons for your own personal protection you might be overlanding
Thank you so much for making this excellent video. I’ve been obsessing over mods for my Forester Wilderness going back and forth tallying up different gear and set ups. You really helped re-center my thought process on all of it. This is a must see video and it’s done impeccably well. I can’t overstate it’s value and quality of content.
@williamweaver3244 We've stock seen subarus on many of the moderate trails out here... they go there no problem! Check it out: GX460 On Blue Square ▣ Trails [MODERATE DIFFICULTY]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSLjahVamWk1P2Q9W2WR71-q.html
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD glad to see other people are noticing the subaru capability. I take my stock 2011 forester 5spd on trails and the looks I get from truck bros are out of this world
Willys Overland was around 60 years ago! I do agree with most of what you said. I have a mild inch and a half Dobinsons lift on my 19 GX. Mainly for the increased payload when towing our Casita RV trailer. I also mounted 17 inch wheels from a 2008 GX so I could put 70 series tires on it. They are about an inch taller than stock and ride soooo much better than the low profile 60 series tires. With that combo I dont need to cut up the front bumper! The traction boards can be handy in sand. And of course a decent shovel. I added a rack as well to mainly mount a nice 270 degree awning. That piece of kit is awesome for desert shade and its super easy to set up and put away. I guess it depends on what you are doing with your rig whether you need any of this or not. I can also appreciate popping up a roof tent in 20 seconds vs messing around with a ground tent. I also have friends here in New Mexico that will go on 1 and 2 week long excursions living out of their trucks. Having a bed in the truck, fridge, water etc makes it more enjoyable. Do you NEED it, No, but if you have the money who am I to tell someone how to enjoy their money? By the way, I'm 57 and retired and can do anything I want.
I also had a Prinsu roof rack on my GX and quite liked it. Its really helpful when you are toting around a whole family and dogs and paddle boards and kayaks and whatever other crap you use to recreate. The GX is not a big vehicle when you are a family of 4.
So true. Some -many- go out and buy everything. I started by off-roading, then got a used rtt, then got my gear set-up in the back of my Jeep. Then built an on-demand hot water & shower system for longer time on the trail. After that great setup, my off-roading & traveling needs changed, so I got a hard shell tent for ease of setups and stow away. The more I travelled on longer journeys, the tent & ladder thing got old real quick...Offroad trailer it is. Comfort and no ladder...now heading out on a 6 month travel adventure and cheap living (ugh) being self-sufficient. Did I say cheap? Bahaha lol All needs are different. Try it first, then grow with your needs...wants are ok too.
Fun video! I’ve been off-roading my entire life. Started with my Dad and his old Blazer. Small lift, 35” tires which were huge for the time. He had a 50 quart Coleman ice chest that held food, beer, soda for us. He had a 5 gallon water jug, and he made a “Boy Scout Patrol Box” that held our kitchen supplies. 2 sleeping bags, tent, ground pad, two duffel bag, couple shotguns for upland hunting. It all fit inside the Blazer. We went everywhere in the desert with that thing. When I built my off road rig, it had a small lift, off road tires and if it didn’t fit in the bed of my truck and be covered by a Tonneau Cover it didn’t come along. I don’t like all that crap hanging off my rig. I’d be to concerned about people stealing stuff off of it to relax.
@@PaulWall78 people saw photos of overland travel (international - Africa, South America, etc) and the most interesting ones were of overlanders driving in dirt in more remote locations. So people automatically assumed that overlanding was the driving in dirt part and not the travel part. Which lead us to the current state of affairs where most people (self proclaimed overlanders) in the US / Canada place the focus on modifying the vehicle for “wheeling” and occasional camping trips instead of actual travel. It’s an honest mistake that’s gone overboard.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I don’t think many people do care. And I’d say that most people interested in overlanding especially in the US share the same definition which is (in my opinion) overly vague and difficult to nail down for the purpose of nearly any discussion (like in this video). Just for example, off the top of my head, if I say the best overland tire size is one that’s widely available in developing countries and doesn’t break any laws in places like Australia… most other would think I’m crazy because 37s and 35s and 33s are widely available in the United States and provide benefits for more recreational off-road applications. Or if I’m taking about an overland tent and my perspective is that a 3000-4000 Alu Cab / Eezi awn is “the best” because they’ll have hardly any problems over the course of a 9 month trip around Southern Africa… a “American Overlander” could be steered wrong following my advice- especially if they out it on a credit card and use it three times a year. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal but it is nice to have a shared definition or point of veiw (even if it’s not exact)… I guess I feel like that’s the point of words and language. With all that said… there are so few international North American overlanders that the loose definition used in this video will certainly remain the predominant one for years to come.
It all depends where you intent to travel to. Overlanding in remote Africa and Australia is very different to overlanding in others parts of the world. Overlanding is a type of adventure travel that involves exploring remote areas, often in a 4x4 vehicle, where the journey is just as important as the destination. It's about immersing oneself in nature, cultures, and experiences, typically in rugged or hard-to-reach territories. For that you you will need to be prepared and you will need some gear. Overlanding often involves: 1. Off-grid travel: Venturing into areas with limited infrastructure. 2. Self-reliance: Carrying gear, supplies, and tools for camping, cooking, and vehicle maintenance. 3. Flexibility: Embracing spontaneity and adapting to changing circumstances. 4. Cultural immersion: Engaging with local communities and learning about their customs. 5. Outdoor activities: Hiking, camping, wildlife viewing, and other nature-based pursuits. Overlanders may travel solo, in groups, or with guided expeditions, covering vast distances or focusing on specific regions. Popular overlanding destinations include Africa, Asia, the Americas, and Australia. Key aspects of overlanding include: 1. Vehicle preparation: Modifying and equipping vehicles for off-grid travel. 2. Route planning: Researching and mapping routes, considering terrain, weather, and local regulations. 3. Camping and cooking: Setting up temporary camps and preparing meals in the wilderness. 4. Navigation: Using maps, GPS, and compasses to stay on course. 5. Safety: Managing risk, emergency preparedness, and teamwork. Overlanding inspires personal growth, fosters connections with nature and cultures, and creates lifelong memories.
A number of years ago I had an S10, I had a tire rack on back because it gave me a bit more room, 2 inch lift, I had halogen headlights with a couple extra lights mounted to the bumper. And a CB radio. That was all I needed. It used to be called "Four Wheeling", and that worked just fine.
In the mid 90’s I lived in Phoenix and went “overlanding” all the time in my ‘93 Ford Ranger regular cab 2 wheel drive long bed and all I had was BFGoodrich all terrains. Did just fine
@NatureConnect-1 we did it the 90s in one of those old box-Cherokees... we didn't have a name for it either.. we just called it doin nonsense and partying in the woods while camping 😆... nothing was hanging off the jeep
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD i still have an old box cherokee xj. Camping it it often across the country. 100% stock except a solar panel on roof and refrigerator inside
You make some good points. I'll play devil's advocate for a minute and offer my opinion. 1. The outside tire carrier? A: Bigger tires will not fit in the factory under body tire carrier. 2. The "2 gallon" gas can is useless because that is not enough gas to get anywhere. A: the cans are usually 5 gallons. even off roading, I can go at least 40-50 miles on 5 gallons. 3. Hanging stuff on outside of your rig looks silly. A: You don't want dirty shovels, gas cans, muddy tires, hi-lift jack, stuck strips, etc in the back of your SUV. I keep my food and spare clothing, extra shoes, rain gear etc inside the back. 4. People are debt slaves to their "rig." A: If it makes people feel better about working the grind, if they do it with the dream of the call of the wild on the week end, more power to them. Both of my vehicles are paid for. They are older models, but they are well maintained.
@jimblair6458 weeelll... as stated in the video _most_ overglampers will stay on easy to moderate trails, therefore: 1. larger tires are not need (unless for "looks") 2. you will not run out of gas (unless for "looks") 3. your recovery gear will fit neatly, cleanly and safely inside the vehicle (unless for "looks") Now, naturally anyone has a right to do whatever they want with their vehicle for whatever reason they want: 4. is not passing judgement, it's explaining the "for looks" logic so those who want to car camp don't feel the "look" is an objective requirement to do so😉✌️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I'm more of a softroader so I self identify as a cosplayer when it comes to overlanding, but have gotten myself into some tricky situations were my big tires and slight lift saved my ass. My gear will not fit inside with kids and dog, yes I could get a bigger vehicle but why if I can strap it to the roof? I do take it off when not camping, otherwise my gas milage would suffer and theft is a bigger problem. I hate to tell you what works for you just might, wait for it- are you ready? might not work for everyone, wow, what a concept! I know your mind must be blown. I totally agree that you need minimal gear to go on a adventure and over landing gear is getting ridiculous but there can be a need outside of your narrow scope. I know you are fanning the flames for the engagement, so congrats but you might get more long term subscribers if you were entertaining, which you are, hell that was funny, but after saying something that is a gross generalization to make a point (and humorous) you might try and walk it back a bit to be more factual. Everyone wins!
I do agree with this to a extent because some people never take their "overland" vehicles offroad however if you do go offroad then lifts, tires, extra fuel, trac boards, snorkels ect all make sense. I rather have it and not use it then need it and not have it.
Yeah everything you said is true I agree with all the extra vehicle related stuff but it's also bc you have a almost brand new, 4x4 locker included drive train with already super bright headlights, while others like myself only spent 10k or less on my semi full build bc it's a used 1996 that didn't come with any of the fancy stuff your 50k dollar suv has. 😅
Funny but true. I've got a lifted Wrangler with larger A/T tires, but that's it. If I want to sleep in the boonies I fold the back seat down and a sleeping pad/sleeping bag fits just fine in the back...
Been "overlanding" in an old bone stock 4x4 trooper, a 4x4 dually truck, and awd suv. So many good memories and the best were probably in the trooper. Body on frame and didn't care about rubbing against stuff or framing out on rocks. Great size and capability. Awd suv is better for longer cross country trips. I used the same gear in every vehicle, just basic camping gear.
You are so right. We over think everything. I started out overlanding / camping in a 1979 Honda CVCC wagon with front wheel drive and took countless trips up the side of slippery granite laced mountains in the Poconos. Now I’m driving a newer capable 4x4, and I am constantly fighting the urge to buy a winch and tons of other gear just to “feel” confident doing trails half as serious as I attempted in the Honda.
@Kflash3782 amen... in reality a shovel, rope, and your factory spiral jack will get you and others unstuck 99% of the actual time: GX460 Recovers Other Vehicles OFF-ROAD [and sometimes gets stuck]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSK-iptuf5fEZsKhgZ3fbZnh.html
What a brutal truth. Still, personally I like to build and tinker. It might not be the true spirit of overlanding/car camping - but it is of a hobby to me. Part is driving technical terrain, part is camping, and part is ripping my back seats and engineering and building drawers...
I agree! I've driven one month on Peru mountain roads with RAV4 2022, and only one thing I'd change is tires, because I had to give up many slopes not to destroy standard ones with rocks. Adventure is inside us. :)
i had a 97 suburban. had a 4 inch lift, 33" tires and a behind the bumper winch. i brought that thing through stuff i never had business going through. i did need the winch more than a few times, but i was deep in new england around snow melt times and the mud can be out of control. The times i offroaded in az i never needed a winch, no lift etc and never had a problem in my 90s pickup. i would recommend a winch just incase if your solo and going through some iffy areas. that being said 90% of this shit i see is completely not needed. edit: btw a full size bed fit PERFECTLY in the back of my suburban with room to spare. never had anything fancy just wanted to get out and away from bs and the truck was cheap and i was willing to actually wheel it so it was a blast.
My Jeep WK2 Trailhawk is pretty much stock, it is as I bought it used. The only thing that I’ve done was replaced the worn out tires with new tires, and I got new wheels after I bent a rim on a car eating pothole in PDX. I added a roof rack for additional,storage when the factory rack failed. Oh and added an additional skid plate in Front. But you’re right it certainly has become a status symbol and a lifestyle statement, I still call it camping.
I built my vehicle to hunt, fish, camp and prospect out of. I spend an average of at least 2 to 3 weeks each season living out of my vehicle in as remote areas as I can find to pursue the game, fish or what I am prospecting for. I average roughly 30k miles a year in my "overlanding vehicle" due to the fact aside from my 2 to 3 week trips I typically head off at least every other weekend to either hunt, fish or prospect and camp to areas within a couple of hundred miles or so from home. I have in the past sought out hard trails, like Black Bear Pass, etc....but at my age, they are only a means to get on the Alpine Loop to fish, camp and prospect.....
YES!!!! You are so right! None of that gear is necessary, period! Nonetheless, some of us buy "American" Jeeps (I have a 2 doors Sport S without all the bells and whistles as a Rubicon) as a hobby where purchasing all that unnecessary gear is just for the looks. I personally see some of that gear as a comfort thing, not a need! No one needs air conditioners; but we all have them! I don't need a RTT; but I have it just because I like the look and the comfort. My wife and I enjoy tailgating or going for a one-day camping trip. We open our 270 awning, then the refrigerator, a couple of chairs and enjoy the view under the shade while cooking on an Amazon's Coleman little stove--- in anywhere shade! It is the looks, for sure; and also for our comfort. AGAIN..... yes, the overlanding world is phony and I agree 100% with everything said in the video.
I'm with you 100%!! I go even one step further back. I have a 05 GMC Sierra 2WD. My modifications are a TruTrack diff, upgraded electrical system, soft top and I do have cheap traction boards just in case. Other than that I'm good with my small camp kit with a JetBoil and easy to make food. This overloading sensation is unbelievable. I wonder if these people are considering the weight of these vehicles and the stress on the suspension and chassis.
@@olliechristopher467 spot on! Someone in 2wd is always at the end of a black-diamond trail... skills are skills... we'll be talking about overloaded overlanders soon, so be sure to subscribe 😉 ❤️
I really enjoyed this video so much! Great advice as I'm new and a beginner to overlanding. I love this perspective and it gives me more confidence.Thank you for demystifying the process!
Truth hurts!!! Wrangler owner with 2"spacer lift and 33" tires. That's the extent - which gets me out into Death Valley and parts beyond. I am an old style camper with a single burner Coleman stove, ice chest, and ground tent. Works wonderful for me and so very simple to set up and take care of. "Jeep'n It Simple" is my motto. Looking forward to more videos from you.
@mftwomey Wranglers are literally the most capable vehicle stock... we'd have one if it wasn't for the whole Chrysler reliability thing (lolz😆 ). But those angles can't be beat.... the original Landcruiser looked just like a Wrangler... as you know 33s a jeep will do anything 😃 ❤️ ✌️
I agree with most of your points. I live and drive off-road in the mountains of Mongolia. My 4WD is pretty stock. It's a Ssangyong Musso. The only things I've changed are the lights - the stock ones are rubbish and the tires, which are all terrain/all season. I'd say 80% of our driving is off-road. We take a shovel and a tow strap but that's about it. When we go touring across the Gobi desert, we take a backpackers tent and typical all-purpose camping equipment. We might buy mud/snow tires this winter because we got stuck a few times (once in mud, once in snow) with the AT tires in the last 3 years. But it was mainly a problem with the 4WD failing which would normally have got us through.
@martinfoster5163 thanks for sharing your experiences 🙏 ❤️ we also find the shovel, rope and oem spiral jack to get us out of 99% of stuck situations... thankfully the stock GX460 headlight are excellent... lightbars are overrated 😆
I agree bro, it’s just showing how much money they can give away to those companies either going into more debt or whatever. Also, those “overlanders” are all over payload capacity which many people overlook. Everything you add to the vehicle takes away from payload including passengers, modifications, gear, etc.
It's true, putting a canopy, 2 dogs, a couple gas cans, 2 passengers, and a winch on a Tacoma puts you over payload. That's before you put any camping gear in lmao
This video is highly accurate. However, some people just need a hobby and decking out your car with random shit is sometimes fun. The issue I have is that the “industry” makes people think they need thousands in dumb accessories to car camp. The reality is that less is more, and once you stop the anxiety of needing more stuff, the more adventure you have.
Nailed it. I've often wondered what the infatuation with incorporating the living quarters to the vehicle is all about. Like you said, it's all about a look and trying to portray a sense of adventure.
I do not care what folks do with their vehicles. Most folks learn from experience what works. But you make a lot of good point. Good suspensions, excellent tires, a functional jack, tire repair kit, air compressor, and experience using them are essential. Don’t forget a sturdy shovel.
Great video. The thing is there is nothing wrong with having gadgets and having a cool looking vehicle. Half the things we have in our life is stuff we don't need. The issue is as you said, when the owners of all this gear tells others that you need this in order to be a "true overlander' and how many people miss out on adventures because they think they can't afford it. If you have a car you can afford to be an overlander/car camper. It's also a problem when the guy with 100k in gear belittles the people who don't have / want/ can't afford it.
You are absolutely right.....but it is really fun to buy things and install them yourself. Same goes for my Harley, Bronco, mountain bike etc. I like when people remove all of those items to sell their truck and then buy them at a huge discount :)
I have been camping out of the back of my trucks for 40 years. My favorite was my old FJ60 I bought when nobody knew what they were. I used a Walmart tarp over the back hatch with 3 poles and it was great. I have a Tacoma now that does have a 3 inch lift, skid plates roof rack, and a wench bumper, but I made some of it. Throw in a reliable tent and there you go.
I have been a “rig” builder (or better probably “collector”) for several years, working on several cars. Truthfully, these have rarely seen dirt and sometimes barely leave the driveway. You’re absolutely right, it is more about the look rather than the function. Recently, I learned that a friend with mine takes his family routinely camping on “trails” with his family minivan- frankly this humiliated me more than anything you said here lol.
Yep.... it's all about looking good, impressing people at the traffic lights and feeding one's ego. I see so many big 4x4's with all the off road fruit bolted to them, all nice and shinny, mint condition with no scratches. They have neve been off the road and the only water that gets splash on them is the bucket of car wash followed by the tin of polish. I have been traveling all throughout Australia since the 90's and the places I have taken 2WD vehicles is way further than some of these shinny 4x4's as mentioned above have been 😆
@@TheSimpleLivingAussie inorite! These same types will then criticize when someone actually _uses_ their skids as intended 0:46 ...claiming such use is "destroying" the vehicle... Overlanding Petting-Zoo culture! 😆✌️
Dude, you just nailed it. Here in Brazil we're in the middle of "overlanding bullshit storm". Thousands of daddy's little boys buying Defenders and other trucks to spend the price of the car again in "overlandig gear" to then go to fancy offices in huge cities. Some "youtube overlanders" are so ridiculously arrogant that make videos telling you that "you are not really overlanding" cause you don't go where they chose and do not use the gear they use. It's really baffling how this people cheat so many people.
@soliduspetrus lolz your comment was hilarious and true... yes the "overlanding culture" has reached toxic critical-mass... they bring their 9-5 rat-race to the trailhead on the weekends... taking 4 hours to conspicuously "air down" for no reason... then they do a bunny trail in slow-motion then film themselves making a pot of coffee for the next 3 hours pretending to be relaxed and "free".... then the charade is over and it's back to cubicle-slavery on Monday
Not to mention how all these 'accessories' like lift kits, larger tires, wheel spacers, roof tents, winches, etc. might adversely affect you, your vehicle, or others (e.g., driveline angles, U-joints, wheel bearings, CV joints, weight, fuel economy, handling, ABS, emergency manoeuvres and potential accident aftermath, calibrated detection sensors and accident avoidance, etc.). Thanks for this excellent video pointing out all of these marketing or psychological fallacies for 99.9% of the general population!
exactly... the engineering (balance) is thrown of for the sake of image-extremism.... also nearly all common overglamper vehicles are "light duty"... Jeeps, GXs, 4runners, Tacomas... none are actual "duty" trucks meant to carry an actual LOAD... ie all the overlanding plate-steel and Rainforest Cafe in the back... they are grossly overload.
Precisely ...the merry-go-round carousel effect ... larger tires; lift kit; tire carrier; 'beefier' suspension, bumpers, axles, differentials, drivetrain; higher capacity alternators (for their fridge, hairdryer, stereo system, whatever) ... 😂 I hope (but do not think) that the vehicle owners and accessory manufactures know of all of the *engineering* implications of their modifications for all the different makes, brands, and models ... "Give the consumer what they want" and companies are only too happy to oblige ...
Thank you for this. I haven’t modded my Ford Bronco because honestly I don’t feel like it needs it. My off road experience is nowhere near the max capability of this vehicle. I’ve been seeing a lot of other Broncos being modded out and it makes me feel a bit left out but I’ve tried to stay true to my methodology of not modding until I know I NEED a specific part.
!I so love this. I've been taking my Prius into insane places for years. Finally got a Subaru Wilderness and found I do the same stuff, just faster. Don't need any of it. Thanks
Amen. I ran my 2005 Land Cruiser stock and figured I’d upgrade thing when needed. Ended up adding an awning, otherwise just threw my standard camping gear in the back and was good to go.
This is such truth!! I live in Los Angeles and have noticed tons of these vehicles popping up. And I’m like, what are all these crazy vehicles looking like this now, like snorkels on new cars?! Like you’re really forging rivers in your new $90k Land Rover?!
While I agree with what you said.. my truck is being built cause I'm bored... It's fun to build.. for me at least... Every trip I strive to take less 🫡
![[#2024MAMA] BIGBANG (빅뱅) - 뱅뱅뱅 (BANG BANG BANG) + FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EQsYfiPR9uM/mqdefault.jpg)
You forgot dumb looking snorkel
@@bradrichardson8062 zomg!!! good catch!! 😆 🤣 😂
@bradrichardson8062 gained 2 mpg when I added my snorkel and my air filter is much cleaner after a desert run...
I find it interesting you say all this and then drive a Lexus ? I’d think you would bought a $30,0000 Les costing 4 runner that’s even more capable ? Everything you said applies to Lexus gx verses a 4 runner . Or will you deny this fact ? That said I agree that 50 percent people who spend on lots the glamp set don’t use it .
@Adventure_Rig most people don't understand that the snorkel was originally designed to move your intake up high where dust is less dense and you can add a pre-filter.
@@christianvienneau6678 that GX probably cost less than a 4runner in the same varient. Mine did.
Don't need a lift, then shows you why you need a lift as he beats the shit out of his lexus
So true. Just spend your lift money on skidplates!
@@MrJoelinq77 Uhh is this Lexus "beat up"?? ...or do you sooooooooo badly want to _imagine_ that it's "beat up" to justify your jealousy? 😉✌️
The Overglampers get so obsessed with skids, then are afraid to use them... oh the irony 😆 🤣
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADthe irony is the myriad stupid comments you make in this video showing you have zero clue what you're talking about. Or to pu**y to actually go anywhere.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADyou didn’t notice or see the bodywork hitting the rocks? The sudden stop at the very beginning of the clip when something underneath hit the rocks?
I'd just like to see the underside of this Lexus after an off road adventure in Moab or Sand Hollow State park in Utah. This video would be more entertaining without the OP's obnoxious "outrage" towards overlander owners.
Overlanding went from car camping as its main focus to gear collecting as its main focus.
yes a mattress in back of a wagon or pick up with a shell /toper , lawn chairs ,Colman stove igloo cooler we where set
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 I built a platform in the back of my F150 6.5' bed and put two of those Home Depot foam mattresses down. Made a queen sized bed and it was awesome for camping. All our gear fit under the platform.
Then we had a kid. . . . made a little crib out of 2x4's that went across the bed rails so that he was elevated over our feet. Tried it once. There was just too much crap that had to come along with the baby to comfortably stuff it in the truck and so we end up buying a camper. Especially if you are in bear country and have to bring everytthing inside the truck at night.
@@Jay-me7gw love my ram single cab 6.5' box , all the same size next would be a single cab 8' box 4x4 not many sold ,suburban 4x4 has 6' behind the2nd row ,or chevy express van
As with any niche
Maybe see collecting gear like fashion. We don't necessarily want to be a slave of fashion but also no one wants to be out of fashion
"The Overlanding Industrial Complex" - I have not laughed that hard in a while.
He's not wrong...
Yeah like Overland expo which is like a tourist trap. Its ridiculous with all the sales and junk. If you really get out on the trails you will see the garbage that people buy without ever needing it. It's a shame. I only went to the expo once in AZ. Never again.
"overglampers" 😂🎉
MORAL of this story is, NEVER buy a white lexus gx460 from this guy.
@atubeviewer4942 why? it's only got like 24k and it's still under factory warranty
😂
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Not after that clip gets out...
I wouldn't buy a 4x4 from any of these overlanders either.
The more built the rig, the closer it stays to the driveway or mall. When you get way way out there, it’s usually hunters in a 1986 Dodge Dakota on bald highway tires that you find at the end of the trail.
Nah, you can tell the pavement princess from the real off road rigs and the better you can build the father you can go into crazy 💩
@@thecryptidsdenIt doesn't take an overbuilt rig to get to the end of most trails. It takes a good driver.
And if you would like to get home as well, it still doesn't take all the extra mods and gear. It takes a reliable vehicle and some basic mechanical knowledge for those instances where you do break something.
When I drive from Georgia to turkey hunt in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico for two weeks and live out of my vehicle and maybe do some fly fishing if I limit out early, or to Superior National Forest in Minnesota to grouse hunt and fly fish for salmon and steelhead it will be over built. Lots of weight is involved to live out of a vehicle, off grid for two weeks on some sketchy trails 40 or more miles from the nearest pavement. Yeah, I can get back there in any decent off-road vehicle, but can I carry the food, water, fuel and all the other gear to live out of it for two weeks? Not to mention being comfortable with the ability to move my camp rather easily as often as the situation dictates?
It’s a truck. ‘Rig’ smh
@@LiterallyOverTheHillAdventuresthat sir, is a different use case and practically dictates your needs. Not gonna lie, wish I had the locale and time to do those adventures. Enjoy!
It’s painful to admit, but you’re absolutely right.
@northamericannomad7822 it doesn't need to be painful ❤️ 🕊 🌼 🌸 🌻 🌹✌️ 🙏
He isn't right and he is putting forth some very dangerous advice.
He is correct about people buying a bunch of stuff that they don't need. As he expands what he is saying, it becomes crystal clear that this man is our dream client... I'm part of an off-road club who does off-road vehicle recovery. I'm also a van lifer who tows a chopped F350. It's my trail rig. Anyway, this guy is telling people to dump the recovery gear because he never uses it... He never uses it because he never goes on trails hard enough to where it would be needed. But soon enough he will end up in a situation he can't get himself out of and he will call me to come save him... For a minimum of $450 to come out, $100 an hour to get him out of the situation. $8 per mile to tow his rig to a shop and if he were nice, a case of beer for me and my friends to enjoy out on the trails... all on his dime.
This man is literally how we fund our rigs and trips lol.
@@tr-lj2vx I was wondering the same. Most "overlanding" is people driving down short, high-traffic offroad trails, where most of this stuff is frivolous (but perhaps not 100% unnecessary). When I think of overlanding, I think of multi-day, backcountry trips where some of this crap would actually be very handy. The appeal here is to the people doing shorter stuff. The point he's making is Experience + Correct Car + Planning > Minimal Mods > Jewelry.
@@Ryan-dc6lj But telling people not to take recovery gear shows how little knowledge this man has when it comes to overloading.
Even a short ten mile trip into a desert canyon road could end up in a situation where there is no cellphone, 120 degree heat, and not a single person coming down that trail for a month. Colorado is much the same, an unexpected snow storm could have a person trapped...
You don't need the racks, the shiny rims, brush guards etc. but going out with little or no recovery gear, pure stupidity.
@@tr-lj2vx yea simple recovery is equivalent to having ATs and skid-plates. I keep a compressor, hitch ring, and a cheap kinetic rope in a box. Never needed to be pulled out though. Really I think the point is that we don't need thousands of pounds of overkill gear and to just go with the basics.
Real overlanders go to war zones or 3rd world countries in Toyota Hiluxes! 😂😂😂
Shit! Was I overlanding in Afghanistan and Iraq? Damn!
@@JamesJones-xk9xx did you sleep in a tent, if the answer is yes, you were overlanding 😂
I slept under my humvee or on the hood with just my poncho liner or sometimes my sleeping bag on top of me. We don’t sleep inside the bag in the war zone!
I overland in central america with a stock, no-airbag jimny and a regular tent lol.
The Taliban are the original Instagram off-roaders.
Oooofff I've never been kicked in the nuts by a video. Well played sir. Seriously though. This is a very well thought out and informed video. I am one of those rigged out overbuilt Jeepers. I spend most of my days off in the bush either with my Jeep or SxS. I do admit I don't need a lot of the crap I have but after decades of growing up in the bush and spending time far from civilization I have been in situations where I did get stranded and had to find my way back to civilization. So it's more of a sense of security and "what if" than practicality. Loved the video and subscribed. Cheers from Northern Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Exactly. Going off road and away from civilization means you need to be self sufficient. This guy clearly doesn't do that since he doesn't need anything but a stock vehicle. Must think AAA will come save him.
Overlanding barbie playset I'm fucking dying here. lol
Me too LMFAO..
Have me singing the Barbie song "I used to float now I just fall down"
I mean "I used to drive now I just buy gear"
We had a pretty cool motorized Barbie quad, back in like 1993 😅
That had my dying! lol
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Well said! 😂
Aside from speaking facts, I am impressed by the quality of this video especially considering it is a small channel. Keep going 🙌🏾
Thank you so much 🙂
Forgot the patatagonia jacket and the yeti cooler😂
And the small penis
this is the most honest break down of off roading that ive ever heard,, genius i might say,... please do a roast of the sprinter vans next... :D
Living in central Texas there’s as many decked out lifted jeeps as there is pickup trucks in an area that has no public land, unless you own a ranch with rough terrain they are just grocery getters.
Did we just awaken in the Overlanding Matrix? Morpheus? Is that you? I’m ready to tent camp 🏕️
Overlanding doesn't mean or require a RTT, I overland in an old beater and ground camp because I go off-roading after setting up camp
It’s not overlanding at all.
I mean I “overland” every day just walking around.
It’s camping plain and simple. But “overlanding” sounds so much more impressive, and this is merica. Always ego.
A dirt road to even a dispersed site is not “overlanding”.
So ridiculous really.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious unspoken truth. My approach is to go out with what I have and only buy things if I genuinely feel the need after camping few times.
There is no wrong setup, every setup is a result of your needs according to what you have experienced, then you know what you want on your setup and you needed. Like an awning, you might not need it, but I do. Come with us on a week adventure on a freezing temperature and you will realize how comfortable my setup is, do not mock people’s rig setup because your type of adventure is not the same as ours or others, let us just respect each others way of adventures because everyone of us have a different level of Overland adventure. If That’s the type of adventure you want then so be it and I respect that.
He's hardly alone in this assesment ive seen other videos by other “ Overlanders” and they more or less say the same thing, most of the cools stuff people are sold is marketing and not necissity. He’s not critical of your set up he’s critical of the gear collecting.
I agree 100%. He's right that you don't need all the stuff to go camping, but I enjoy all the stuff and gear, it's fun to me and i use all of it. And Im not bashing my vehicle on the rocks to prove I don't need a lift.
Yup 👏🏻
@@alaska1girls -Yes including the gears, we brought gears because we needed them, and people have different needs according to the comfort level on their adventures they want. Let’s just respect each other’s setup or gears we bring, some people wants to bring high lift jack while others wants bottle jack or some would bring rotopax for extra fuel while others don’t… so be it, what’s important is we go out there to explore and adventure in the wild and we have everything we need for self reliance.
@@norkisserrano This!! ☝☝☝💯
Much respect for anyone who drives their lexus like that.
@@bd1875 🙏 ❤️ ✌️ known worldwide as the Landcruiser Prado
I love it. Someone finally said it.
@@jasonkelley3143 😆 🤣 😂 it had to be said 😆 thanks for your support ❤️ ✌️ 🇺🇸
I always laugh when I see people commuting with all that shit on the back of their new TRD Tacoma.
Well when a disaster hits, they will definitely be prepared.
I bet they take it a few miles offroad every 3 years.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 If disaster really hits there would be no gas for those 11mpg rigs with all that gear.
@@Wanderer25 You ever heard of Jerry cans? Watch footage from the Hawaii fires and see how people relied on those 4x4s. I always stick to the philosophy of, "it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".
True, and hopefully they have the knowledge to use it safely. 👍🏼
That's ME ! 🤣 I totally have a four star hotel in the back 🤣The thing I am trying to compensate for is getting too old to safely paddle Class IV rapids. Sure I am getting old and broken down but my truck can totally fill that emotional void. I should name it "The Compensator"
It's admirable to have such self awareness and honesty. Seriously. I can absolutely see how easy it would be to get sucked into gadgets. My husband and I are both that way and I'm worse than he is. 🤣
@@zsuzsuspetals It's probably a safe bet that anyone from a backpacking or kayaking background realizes how little we actually need in order to have a great outdoor experience. Hec, just camping out of a vehicle of any kind is an absolute luxury 😁
I second that
🤣 Great name!
Agree with some, not with all, but a good overall message in the video. My experience was that I bought (mostly overbought) gear before I knew if I really needed it because I didn't have a mentor or teacher with experience to guide me. Overbuying gear was a crutch when I was less experienced. The more experience I got, my gear became more purposeful and need based. It's amazing how far a stock 4runner or Jeep will get you with a tent, canopy, small grill, and some bins packed nicely in the back.
I know a guy who traded in his 2023 CX5 turbo, went out and bought an overpriced 2024 4runner pro. And he paid almost 65k just to look cool. He will have 935 dollar car payments for 84 months. The dealership ripped him off, they gave his mazda lower than the retail value price and he still traded in his car because the 4runner pro was the last brand new one they had. $835X84. He is going to end up paying over 85k for stupid 4runner. Some people are braindead.
@@andrevukovic3568 But he's a "Pro" now! 😆 🤣
I have a 2.5" lift on my tacoma with 32" tires and that's it. But thank you for this video, I've been saying all this stuff for years. Just pitch a tent and cook over a fire like a man.
Agree with this video 100%, but the idea of not setting up a tent on the ground in the sand while it’s windy still sounds good.
Stay in your house then lol. Setting up a 4x4 rv in a scenic remote part of where ever seems sac religious and counter intuitive to the premise all together.
@@g__wizz I get it except I’ve been backpacking wilderness and backcountry since I was a little kid. Setting up tents in the dirt, or just sleeping on the ground. I have a family of 5 now, and maybe we just want to do a quick trip in the truck without so much hassle, so we can spend some extra time enjoying each other’s company. We’re already cheating by using a 4x4 anyways. Original “overlanding” was, and always will be on foot in my opinion. I think a lot of the extra tech is cosplay. But some of it does serve a practical purpose in my opinion.
@@andyapplebee6060 apply the same rules for good backpacking technique, light weight/minimalism also function/necessity to dictate mods and you will see most of the overland stuff come up short on a vehicle.
but then you gotta find a level spot for your car
@@g__wizz yep I get it and I’m that guy, but you can take it to extremes either way. Some gear and technology serves us well in the right circumstances. In my scenario I’m trying to create a reasonably comfortable situation that will allow my family to enjoy the outdoors. I don’t even have a rooftop tent or anything like that. I’m just saying I’m open to it. It would make managing myself and 4 others much less stressful in many scenarios.
I off road camped for most of my life with my main gear being a camp cot, sleeping bag and Coleman cooler. When overlanding became a word I suddenly had a coworker go out and buy a brand new jeep and spend thousands tricking it out. I kept asking him every Monday if he took it anywhere. He literally took it out one time in the four years I worked with him, and it was 2N02 back road to big bear (since I see you must live nearby). Meanwhile I was going out at least once a month way out in BFE in the deserts and mountains in my mostly stock FJ cruiser which has been called a hoopty because it has dings and such, you know, signs of use. 😂
@oldakela6834 ya spot on... same crap happened in the 80s when the yuppies discovered moutain biking... went out and bought expensive bikes, helmets, gear, racing regalia, then proceeded to go out once then park it in the garage lol 😆 love 2N02 ❤️
Years ago when my family first moved to Colorado we decided to go hiking one weekend and to explore our new home state. We made a wrong turn and ended up on a “jeep” trail in a family sedan. My dad being a rather skilled driver and knowledgeable on how to handle off road situations navigated us home with no problems. Hard core jeep guys were cheering us on for getting out in nature and followed us out just to make sure we didn’t get stuck. Congratulated my dad for handling the car skillfully and gave us directions home.
You don’t need the stuff… you need the skill
My first off road trail was in my Prius lol, and it was snowing. I now have a decently modded 4runner but still good times
that's awesome! Great job Dad!
I cut my teeth offroading in a lil Hyundai Sonata out of necessity, and as a result I've yet to encounter something my almost stock truck can't handle--it may not have the clearance to handle everything gracefully (hence my one mod being skidplates), but it does it. Every vehicle is going to have its limits, but experience and good line choice go farther than any modification, and up to a point, goes further even than vehicle choice.
“Overlanding” is best related to what began in Australia decades ago, where sleeping on the ground is too close to so many things that will kill you. The main difference between overlanding and car camping is that car camping is typically in a campground and overlanding is typically dispersed camping. You’ll need to bring things like water and be more self-sufficient. Agree that most of the gear is unnecessary and undesirable. Learn how to drive off-road before you start overloading your vehicle with hundreds of pounds of gear. I took my stock 4Runner with Michelin street tires through Imogene Pass, and it would’ve been harder with additional weight and a higher center of gravity. I have a smaller ARB compressor so I can air down my tires for better traction.
To me, the rooftop tent is the worst - I built a simple sleeping platform in the back and got some bug netting for the windows because I prefer to sleep inside the vehicle. I also prefer a small fridge and a small battery pack to keep it powered versus a cooler. Less is better, but a rear locker would be nice.
Absolutely, sleeping off the ground away from creepy crawlers, slitherers, and fanged clawed mammals regardless of size is an absolute necessity. Ask me how know? Not to mention mid night thunder storms with 50 mph gales.
It reminds me of the people who drive the huge trucks that never tow or carry anything.
Cant speak for everyone, but I would like the room, handling and safety aspects of a big truck. It seems the people that complain the most are those that just can't afford it and want to bring others down. In fact, when I see a small parking spot, I look at the developers as cheap idiots who don't see what people want: bigger vehicles. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
In my area, that venn diagram is a circle. It's much easier to cram your bed full of bolted in overlanding gear and sacrifice payload capacity with offroad suspension and thousands of crap on your roof racks if you never actually tow or haul anything with your truck.
In fairness, being a dedicated offroader is a totally valid use case for a truck, and one that actually sees dirt regularly is a totally different beast a pavement princess, but it's usually pretty apparent when something is just for looks and the fantasy of adventure rather than a well thought out offroading setup built according to needs.
@@MeJonTheDon You mean can't afford the BS usurious mortgage payments? Anybody who plays the "I'm rich, you're poor " card is the WORST kind of poser...
@gcarson19 i didn't say I could afford it nor do I have one, but for those that can good for them, they bought something they want. Too many nosey people worrying about what others want to spend their money on, rather than focusing on themselves. Further, most people didn't just buy a vehicle recently, they bought their vehicle when things were more affordable. The average price of new vehicles when you take out the bulk discounted fleet sales is around the mid $50k range, so basically everyone buying now is in that boat, not just truck owners. Pickups historically and to this day are also better priced than most similar sized SUVs, so provide a good value for people on a relative basis
@@MeJonTheDon
You sound like the very person who this video is targeting
Thank you. This video was humbling. I have a 4x4 and a few years back I bought a rooftop tent. I’ve fallen into the trap of thinking I need so much more gear (front and rear lockers, air compressor, fridge, solar, heated water tank, diesel heater, a/c unit, full size spare, recovery boards, steel bumper with winch and the list goes on) that I haven’t even taken my family to go on a trip I ages. Granted: the first time I really pushed my vehicle and into uncharted territory I instantly got stuck and had to wait hours for recovery, so that did scar me a bit. But your video has given me the courage to find some easy trails and get back out there to do what really matters, and detach from our cushy everyday and make memories with my family.
@paulwiest8167 Thank you for your honesty... you truly right... some may get triggered by the truth, but the fact is the "look of freedom adventure" is the primary overlanding-drug. We've lived offroad in the Mojave for 13 years now, and nobody has the regalia hanging off the sides... obe heard similar anecdotes from people who are hermits in Alaska who also watch the overglampers pass through:
GX460 Recovers Other Vehicles OFF-ROAD [and sometimes gets stuck]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSK-iptuf5fEZsKhgZ3fbZnh.html
I think this video really needed to be made, thanks for finally pointing this out. And yes you forgot the snorkel hahaha great video !!!
I went to panama and back in a 1990 suburban 4x4, no winch, no crap, couple 5 gallon jerry cans of oil for oil changes etc, tempurpedic mattress .3 years on the road all through central america, only needed 4x4 six times. Thats it.
"Overlanding Barbie playset." 💀
Keep up the good work, amigo!
That's because Americans have confused overlanding with off road car camping...
The US version, lower 48 certainly, you are never far from tarmac and services...
But overlanding did exist decades ago, it comes from Australia, Africa, Asia, and still exists, and requires equipment that helps when you are actually away from civilisation...
So yeah, spot on, you are not overlanding...
Yep I spoke to this in my comment. traveling "over land" - over landing is not going to a camp ground for the weekend and sleeping in your car or going off roading.
To be fair, there are still areas in the lower 48 where real overlanding is possible and there are some people that do build out for overseas adventures. The places you mention are absolutely a different beast though. "Overlanding" here has gotten mixed up with caravaning culture. For what most of these people actually wanna do, they'd be better served with a caravan towing a 4-wheeler
never far from tarmac and services is great when you're talking about a vehicle that isn't broken down on the trail. 4 hours in by car and 113 degrees out in the Southwest....ain't no body making it 40 miles on foot in those temps without enough water. So if you're 25 hours from pavement in the outback or 4 hours from pavement in Utah. A broken rig and no cell service with dwindling supplies is gonna be deadly either way without a satellite communicator. and at that point, the argument of tarmac and service is moot. only reason your ass is being saved is because you were smart enough to know satellite is your best option. So without it, you're likely dead in either situation.....don't go at it alone, or if you do, have a satellite back up.
The people whining about purposefully built trucks/suvs are the ones who apparently never gone on a trip where to they needed haul water, extra gas, propane, or have had to use max trax & a shovel for self recovery.
@margyg, Like people in Western North Carolina!
So true, I have a lot of recovery gear and have used every single piece already. I travel by myself and must be capable of self-recovery.
I want to thank you for being real. You have given me a new perspective on overlanding. I am brand new to this and don’t make much money and I was freaking out at the cost for the type of vehicle and gear that I thought I needed. After watching this I realised I don’t need all the over hyped bs if I just want to hit some easy and simple trails. Thank you and I will repay your honesty by subscribing and supporting your channel. Keep up the good work 😊
@@ironman3023 Thank you for subscribing.. this video is for people like you... 😃 we get some negative comments for exposing the truth, but enough is enough ❤️ ✌️
Bro woke up and chose violent, I LOVE IT!!!
I am just 4'10, 99 lbs woman, so for 12 years with two 5th gen 4Runners, my overlanding was folding the rear seats down and sleeping in the back of my 4Runners on a mattress made to fit in a 4Runner with seats down lol. My only mods were KO2s, and for my 2019 TRD OR, the Magnuson supercharger, KO2s and a long range gas tank, for longer more remote expeditions into the mountains. I had no light bars or anything like that. I used a portable lithium battery for charging my phone, flashlight, laptop etc, some easy to make food like (MRE type easy), water and could go overlanding up to a week, just like that. I live in British Columbia with 2 bear species, record size moose, wolves and mountain lions. I'm not sleeping on the roof lol. I was a car camper lol
I have a GX 550 Overtrail now, and look forward to torture testing it
Great video!
@@lunamaria1048 Thank you for your happy 😃 comment... enjoy your new GX550 OT! ❤️ 😍 💖
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Sure! I always like your perspectives. I have been car camping for 16 years, long before TH-cam made it a trend called "overlanding" lol. I'll never understand why TH-cam "overlanders" need to bring everything, (including the kitchen sink) with them, and the supplies to cook Michelin star gourmet meals 😂
I'll admit I am interested in the added benefit of being ably to plug in to and use hybrid battery power, while car camping, but waiting to see if the GX 550 will get a hybrid model! If not, I'll make due with my portable battery pack lol
Thanks!
What is so great about this video?
@@Circa760 Shared perspective, and a beautiful GX 460. If you are looking to quench your thirst with Haterade, you won't find any here😊
As one of the people that does long range, multi-state/country journeys, I fully agree with the overall theme here. People very often ask me how to get started and what mods to make. I tell them this: Get basic safety and recovery gear, then add whatever camping gear you have plus fuel. Burn fuel. Lots and lots of fuel. Don't every buy anything or make a modification to a vehicle unless it solves a specific problem that you know you have and annoys you to the point where it is taking away from the experience. The rest takes care of itself. That said, the term overland came into the commercial automotive world in 1908. Overland Motors > Willys Overland >GPW/MB>JEEP. I've been doing this all my life and we never called it "car camping". It was called Jeeping. Even if you drove a Bronco or a Scout. It was Jeeping. Car Camping might sound more inclusive or whatever, but that has only been a term for about the same amount of time as the "Overland Industrial Complex" has been around. Also, trails don't give themselves diamonds. That's just stupid. Using the same rating scale, I've seen trails that are blue squares that would eat your soccer-mobile for lunch AND double blacks diamonds that look like the mall parking lot. The "look" you refer to mimics those of us that embark on long distance, vehicle based adventure travel. We don't care about "trails" and have to be ready for anything from taking a business meeting in the parking lot of In-n-Out to accidentally turning onto an 8' shelf road with a 7'6" wide rig pulling a trailer (I did that last week). All of that typed, I also can't stand all of the crap people have hanging off the side of their vehicles. I carry some big stuff at all times. . .chain saw, ax, shovel, air compressor, recovery kit and on and on. . .but you can't see any of it from the outside. Looks like a stock Jeep with a small lift and slightly larger tires. Tires that have driven in 2 oceans, the gulf of Mexico and the Sea of Cortez, but the guy at the grocery store doesn't need to know that.
I agree with most of what you say except, I have a question. How many kids or pets do you bring with you? With 5 of us in the vehicle I couldn’t imagine fitting everything inside the vehicle.
@roycenruiz currently 1 pet and one wife. zero kids. Previously, 2 kids, 1 pet, 1 wife. All in a CJ7.
Yup, city dwellers looking for a break in the pretentious life they chose and they still can't see all that equipment represents the stress they are trying to escape
@soosilly79 you hit the nail on the head! They are bringing the cubicle with them.. their ball and chains... some trails look like traffic-jams on the weekends... plugged up for miles with overglampers re-creating the 5-day rat-race on the trails... the irony
My coworker has all kinds of expensive camping gear on his 4runner and he never goes anywhere with it. Large falken all terrain tires, stupid ladder in the back, 1k dollar roof rack ect ect. His truck is always spotless. So pathetic.
yep... same crap in the 80s with mountain bikes.... they had all the $3k bikes and never hit the trails... ever... basically it's one sad cry for help ❤️ ✌️
This guy is speaking BRUTAL truth. I think all of us-men, need to hear this type of message from another guy. Sincerely, listening to this guy's message can save a person a s*it ton of cash. BRAVO to this guy.
I think what he said is a little overboard. Especially when he said guys were “overcompensating” buy buying all of that stuff. “Overlanding” is a hobby so who’s to say what they can and cannot spend their hard earned money on? Guys like this? No to each their own I say and do whatever makes you happy. Also if someone says someone else is overcompensating for something most likely that individual is very self conscious.
Gear addiction is a real thing.
What a loser.
Spends all his money on a station wagon and then hacks on people who go prepared.
Loser.
My neighbor has his Toyota Sequoia all decked out with everything you mentioned and the snorkel too. He drives it back and forth to work. My over landing vehicle is a Toyota Corolla with peeling paint and Rocky Mountain pinstripes. It’s amazing what that thing will do and the gas mileage I get every weekend is absolute freedom. I couldn’t agree more with this video.
Yep. Just a stock 2d wrangler sport with skids and good mt's has gotten me anywhere I want to car camp. Tent, water, recovery straps, clothes, and food fits in the back just fine even with a passenger. Don't need all the overlanding playset stuff. I do have an extra 5gal gas though, just makes sense to be prepared.
Explaining to people that a stock 2door Wrangler has the absolute BEST cardinal angles is an exercise in futility. Approach, breakover, departure. 2 door wrangler is objectively the best. Explaining that the GX460 wheelbase is SHORTER than a 4-door Rubucon is also an exercise in futility lol... cardinal angles have been displaced by "looks" and GAS/Gear Aqusition Synrome
I’ve been doing vehicle-based adventuring and camping since I was an infant, Yes, that would be the 1960s all we ever had was a basic ground tent which was military surplus, some sleeping bags we borrowed from the grandparents, a Coleman stove, and a Coleman lantern sometimes we borrowed lawn chairs from family. Eventually, my parents bought a used camper van that allowed us to cook and sleep inside the van, but that was after the family grew by one child and one dog. I’ve been full-time on the road for about four years all of my gear when I started was stuff we already had, or I repurposed from bikepacking and backpacking. I don’t buy new gear until the old gear fails or I absolutely have to have something for quality of life. My first gear purchase was a foam rubber mattress for the back of my vehicle and then I got a partial sponsorship for a 12V refrigerator which just allowed me to stay offgrid longer. I have been using what ever used vehicles I already had. Once I started full time with my partner and my daughter we bought a very basic tiny 10’ camper trailer to hold the additional gear.
@TheOffroadCamper we did it since the 1990s, there was no name for it, we just threw some camping crap in the back of box-Jeep Cherokee and went off into the woods with our girlfriends 😆
This marketing of creating perceived needs of off roading has created a whole industry and a new revenue stream for automotive manufacturers.
I used to drive my old 1971 Plymouth Satellite on dirt roads and slept in the back seat. Had water and a shovel in the truck and amazingly went to few out of the way places and had a great time. Then drove that same car to work...Had no money for specialized equipment .
You have shown what a mostly stock vehicle can do with some careful driving.
Great video. I bought a 2018 GX460 last year. I started looking at lifts, full roof racks, spare tire swings, etc. Thankfully I never moved forward with any of the mods that I thought I needed. I realized that as much as I wish I was some overlander hitting the deep wilderness every weekend, the reality is my vehicle will spend most of its life on the pavement. Since my primary goal was to have a vehicle for beach driving and car camping, I just upgraded the stock HW tires to 275/65/18 Toyo Open Country on the stock wheels. Did the zip tie method and have no rubbing. I went with Inno aero crossbars on the stock rails, because the only purpose for my roof rack is to carry kayaks. I do plan to get some rock sliders, mainly because I hate the stock side steps. But the vehicle is more than capable for my needs, even when stock. Also, I started watching random 4x4 videos from Australia and thought it was funny that most of these guys have very plain looking, lightly modded 4x4s and they're so known for their off road culture. If they can manage without the crazy "rigs" I see all over TH-cam, I certainly can!
even if you were going into the "deep wilderness" you need less than you think... watch the yt videos of what they do with Toyotas in Africa 😆.... you'll love it 😀
Nailed it!!! Overlanding is poserlanding!!! Every word is right on. Preach! 👍👍
You want to see a poser? Check their paint if there is any pinstripes!😂
It's just like the car enthusiast industry. Everyone can get by with a Prius. No one needs to modify their car to make it faster, make it handle better, and look better and to make it your own. That's what car enthusiasts have doing since the horseless carriage was invented.
The "Overlanding Industrial Complex" creates jobs and opportunities in small businesses in America. 🤷🏽♂️ That front bumper, skid plate, undercarriage protection, rear tire carrier, after-market wheels made in the USA, recovery gear made in the USA, and the rest of the overlanding gear help the American economy. That's capitalism. 🤷🏽♂️
I have a GX, and it's tight on space, especially when you pack your family and two 70 lbs dogs. I'm glad to have a roof rack and storage boxes. Otherwise, there would be no room for gear. I'd say to each is own. If someone wants to build an "overland" vehicle, good for them. You are free to do what you want in the United States.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you.
I agree, I have a rack out of necessity and will definitely need a secure storage box with family of 4, a 70 pound dog and inlaws/friends here and there but I think he's making the point to make one stop for a sec and actually think about what's really needed. Most of the losers I see around here in LA have a tent, boxes, lifts, gas cans, water cans, huge tires on a pristine clean truck. Makes me laugh my ass off. Sure, you can do whatever you want and it may support small business in the USA which I like (like Sherpa) but if it makes even a small percentage stop and think first... wait I do not need this shit... that's a win.
All I'm hearing is excuses to spend and waste money. Made in America? And? Who cares?
@@Fernando-t8g Believe it or not there are some people that like support their country. I hope you can wrap your head around this.
@@Fernando-t8g It's not your money. Why do you care? 🤷🏽♂️🙄😆
When you drive a unimog from morocco to Namibia, with a satellite phone and secret compartments to hide weapons for your own personal protection you might be overlanding
@@johnmartin2079 this!! ❤️
Thank you so much for making this excellent video.
I’ve been obsessing over mods for my Forester Wilderness going back and forth tallying up different gear and set ups.
You really helped re-center my thought process on all of it.
This is a must see video and it’s done impeccably well.
I can’t overstate it’s value and quality of content.
@williamweaver3244 We've stock seen subarus on many of the moderate trails out here... they go there no problem! Check it out:
GX460 On Blue Square ▣ Trails [MODERATE DIFFICULTY]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSLjahVamWk1P2Q9W2WR71-q.html
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD glad to see other people are noticing the subaru capability. I take my stock 2011 forester 5spd on trails and the looks I get from truck bros are out of this world
I think all of the motorcycle "Adventure Riders" figured out that they can cram more junk in an SUV than a BMW 1200GS
🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for keeping it simple, real & being brutally honest!
🙏 ❤️ thank you for your continued support of the channel 🙏 😀
Willys Overland was around 60 years ago! I do agree with most of what you said. I have a mild inch and a half Dobinsons lift on my 19 GX. Mainly for the increased payload when towing our Casita RV trailer. I also mounted 17 inch wheels from a 2008 GX so I could put 70 series tires on it. They are about an inch taller than stock and ride soooo much better than the low profile 60 series tires. With that combo I dont need to cut up the front bumper! The traction boards can be handy in sand. And of course a decent shovel. I added a rack as well to mainly mount a nice 270 degree awning. That piece of kit is awesome for desert shade and its super easy to set up and put away. I guess it depends on what you are doing with your rig whether you need any of this or not. I can also appreciate popping up a roof tent in 20 seconds vs messing around with a ground tent. I also have friends here in New Mexico that will go on 1 and 2 week long excursions living out of their trucks. Having a bed in the truck, fridge, water etc makes it more enjoyable. Do you NEED it, No, but if you have the money who am I to tell someone how to enjoy their money? By the way, I'm 57 and retired and can do anything I want.
I also had a Prinsu roof rack on my GX and quite liked it. Its really helpful when you are toting around a whole family and dogs and paddle boards and kayaks and whatever other crap you use to recreate. The GX is not a big vehicle when you are a family of 4.
So true. Some -many- go out and buy everything. I started by off-roading, then got a used rtt, then got my gear set-up in the back of my Jeep. Then built an on-demand hot water & shower system for longer time on the trail. After that great setup, my off-roading & traveling needs changed, so I got a hard shell tent for ease of setups and stow away. The more I travelled on longer journeys, the tent & ladder thing got old real quick...Offroad trailer it is. Comfort and no ladder...now heading out on a 6 month travel adventure and cheap living (ugh) being self-sufficient. Did I say cheap? Bahaha lol
All needs are different. Try it first, then grow with your needs...wants are ok too.
Fun video!
I’ve been off-roading my entire life. Started with my Dad and his old Blazer. Small lift, 35” tires which were huge for the time. He had a 50 quart Coleman ice chest that held food, beer, soda for us. He had a 5 gallon water jug, and he made a “Boy Scout Patrol Box” that held our kitchen supplies. 2 sleeping bags, tent, ground pad, two duffel bag, couple shotguns for upland hunting. It all fit inside the Blazer.
We went everywhere in the desert with that thing.
When I built my off road rig, it had a small lift, off road tires and if it didn’t fit in the bed of my truck and be covered by a Tonneau Cover it didn’t come along. I don’t like all that crap hanging off my rig. I’d be to concerned about people stealing stuff off of it to relax.
100 percent agreed. what happened to just, "offroading, wheeling..." the word, "overlanding" lol new gen bs
@@PaulWall78 people saw photos of overland travel (international - Africa, South America, etc) and the most interesting ones were of overlanders driving in dirt in more remote locations. So people automatically assumed that overlanding was the driving in dirt part and not the travel part. Which lead us to the current state of affairs where most people (self proclaimed overlanders) in the US / Canada place the focus on modifying the vehicle for “wheeling” and occasional camping trips instead of actual travel. It’s an honest mistake that’s gone overboard.
@@TsavoTouring I just dont' see why people care so much though. Who really cares about what other people do with their vehicles?
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I don’t think many people do care. And I’d say that most people interested in overlanding especially in the US share the same definition which is (in my opinion) overly vague and difficult to nail down for the purpose of nearly any discussion (like in this video). Just for example, off the top of my head, if I say the best overland tire size is one that’s widely available in developing countries and doesn’t break any laws in places like Australia… most other would think I’m crazy because 37s and 35s and 33s are widely available in the United States and provide benefits for more recreational off-road applications. Or if I’m taking about an overland tent and my perspective is that a 3000-4000 Alu Cab / Eezi awn is “the best” because they’ll have hardly any problems over the course of a 9 month trip around Southern Africa… a “American Overlander” could be steered wrong following my advice- especially if they out it on a credit card and use it three times a year. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal but it is nice to have a shared definition or point of veiw (even if it’s not exact)… I guess I feel like that’s the point of words and language. With all that said… there are so few international North American overlanders that the loose definition used in this video will certainly remain the predominant one for years to come.
It all depends where you intent to travel to. Overlanding in remote Africa and Australia is very different to overlanding in others parts of the world. Overlanding is a type of adventure travel that involves exploring remote areas, often in a 4x4 vehicle, where the journey is just as important as the destination. It's about immersing oneself in nature, cultures, and experiences, typically in rugged or hard-to-reach territories. For that you you will need to be prepared and you will need some gear.
Overlanding often involves:
1. Off-grid travel: Venturing into areas with limited infrastructure.
2. Self-reliance: Carrying gear, supplies, and tools for camping, cooking, and vehicle maintenance.
3. Flexibility: Embracing spontaneity and adapting to changing circumstances.
4. Cultural immersion: Engaging with local communities and learning about their customs.
5. Outdoor activities: Hiking, camping, wildlife viewing, and other nature-based pursuits.
Overlanders may travel solo, in groups, or with guided expeditions, covering vast distances or focusing on specific regions. Popular overlanding destinations include Africa, Asia, the Americas, and Australia.
Key aspects of overlanding include:
1. Vehicle preparation: Modifying and equipping vehicles for off-grid travel.
2. Route planning: Researching and mapping routes, considering terrain, weather, and local regulations.
3. Camping and cooking: Setting up temporary camps and preparing meals in the wilderness.
4. Navigation: Using maps, GPS, and compasses to stay on course.
5. Safety: Managing risk, emergency preparedness, and teamwork.
Overlanding inspires personal growth, fosters connections with nature and cultures, and creates lifelong memories.
A number of years ago I had an S10, I had a tire rack on back because it gave me a bit more room, 2 inch lift, I had halogen headlights with a couple extra lights mounted to the bumper. And a CB radio. That was all I needed. It used to be called "Four Wheeling", and that worked just fine.
In the mid 90’s I lived in Phoenix and went “overlanding” all the time in my ‘93 Ford Ranger regular cab 2 wheel drive long bed and all I had was BFGoodrich all terrains. Did just fine
@NatureConnect-1 we did it the 90s in one of those old box-Cherokees... we didn't have a name for it either.. we just called it doin nonsense and partying in the woods while camping 😆... nothing was hanging off the jeep
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD i still have an old box cherokee xj. Camping it it often across the country. 100% stock except a solar panel on roof and refrigerator inside
You make some good points. I'll play devil's advocate for a minute and offer my opinion.
1. The outside tire carrier? A: Bigger tires will not fit in the factory under body tire carrier.
2. The "2 gallon" gas can is useless because that is not enough gas to get anywhere. A: the cans are usually 5 gallons. even off roading, I can go at least 40-50 miles on 5 gallons.
3. Hanging stuff on outside of your rig looks silly. A: You don't want dirty shovels, gas cans, muddy tires, hi-lift jack, stuck strips, etc in the back of your SUV. I keep my food and spare clothing, extra shoes, rain gear etc inside the back.
4. People are debt slaves to their "rig." A: If it makes people feel better about working the grind, if they do it with the dream of the call of the wild on the week end, more power to them. Both of my vehicles are paid for. They are older models, but they are well maintained.
@jimblair6458 weeelll... as stated in the video _most_ overglampers will stay on easy to moderate trails, therefore:
1. larger tires are not need (unless for "looks")
2. you will not run out of gas (unless for "looks")
3. your recovery gear will fit neatly, cleanly and safely inside the vehicle (unless for "looks")
Now, naturally anyone has a right to do whatever they want with their vehicle for whatever reason they want:
4. is not passing judgement, it's explaining the "for looks" logic so those who want to car camp don't feel the "look" is an objective requirement to do so😉✌️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I'm more of a softroader so I self identify as a cosplayer when it comes to overlanding, but have gotten myself into some tricky situations were my big tires and slight lift saved my ass. My gear will not fit inside with kids and dog, yes I could get a bigger vehicle but why if I can strap it to the roof? I do take it off when not camping, otherwise my gas milage would suffer and theft is a bigger problem. I hate to tell you what works for you just might, wait for it- are you ready? might not work for everyone, wow, what a concept! I know your mind must be blown. I totally agree that you need minimal gear to go on a adventure and over landing gear is getting ridiculous but there can be a need outside of your narrow scope. I know you are fanning the flames for the engagement, so congrats but you might get more long term subscribers if you were entertaining, which you are, hell that was funny, but after saying something that is a gross generalization to make a point (and humorous) you might try and walk it back a bit to be more factual. Everyone wins!
I do agree with this to a extent because some people never take their "overland" vehicles offroad however if you do go offroad then lifts, tires, extra fuel, trac boards, snorkels ect all make sense. I rather have it and not use it then need it and not have it.
Seems like this guy is coming from the perspective of being an obvious in experienced beginner and hating overland culture for some reason.
Yeah everything you said is true I agree with all the extra vehicle related stuff but it's also bc you have a almost brand new, 4x4 locker included drive train with already super bright headlights, while others like myself only spent 10k or less on my semi full build bc it's a used 1996 that didn't come with any of the fancy stuff your 50k dollar suv has. 😅
Hahaha I love this. You forgot to mention the $300 canvas trash bags you hang on your spare tire 😂
Funny but true. I've got a lifted Wrangler with larger A/T tires, but that's it. If I want to sleep in the boonies I fold the back seat down and a sleeping pad/sleeping bag fits just fine in the back...
You’re absolutely right. But I still want one. He who dies with the most toys wins.
Been "overlanding" in an old bone stock 4x4 trooper, a 4x4 dually truck, and awd suv. So many good memories and the best were probably in the trooper. Body on frame and didn't care about rubbing against stuff or framing out on rocks. Great size and capability. Awd suv is better for longer cross country trips. I used the same gear in every vehicle, just basic camping gear.
You are so right. We over think everything. I started out overlanding / camping in a 1979 Honda CVCC wagon with front wheel drive and took countless trips up the side of slippery granite laced mountains in the Poconos. Now I’m driving a newer capable 4x4, and I am constantly fighting the urge to buy a winch and tons of other gear just to “feel” confident doing trails half as serious as I attempted in the Honda.
@Kflash3782 amen... in reality a shovel, rope, and your factory spiral jack will get you and others unstuck 99% of the actual time:
GX460 Recovers Other Vehicles OFF-ROAD [and sometimes gets stuck]: th-cam.com/play/PL8tJPBoyhNSK-iptuf5fEZsKhgZ3fbZnh.html
What a brutal truth.
Still, personally I like to build and tinker. It might not be the true spirit of overlanding/car camping - but it is of a hobby to me.
Part is driving technical terrain, part is camping, and part is ripping my back seats and engineering and building drawers...
I agree! I've driven one month on Peru mountain roads with RAV4 2022, and only one thing I'd change is tires, because I had to give up many slopes not to destroy standard ones with rocks. Adventure is inside us. :)
damn right you don't need those stuff
i had a 97 suburban. had a 4 inch lift, 33" tires and a behind the bumper winch. i brought that thing through stuff i never had business going through. i did need the winch more than a few times, but i was deep in new england around snow melt times and the mud can be out of control. The times i offroaded in az i never needed a winch, no lift etc and never had a problem in my 90s pickup. i would recommend a winch just incase if your solo and going through some iffy areas. that being said 90% of this shit i see is completely not needed.
edit: btw a full size bed fit PERFECTLY in the back of my suburban with room to spare. never had anything fancy just wanted to get out and away from bs and the truck was cheap and i was willing to actually wheel it so it was a blast.
My Jeep WK2 Trailhawk is pretty much stock, it is as I bought it used. The only thing that I’ve done was replaced the worn out tires with new tires, and I got new wheels after I bent a rim on a car eating pothole in PDX. I added a roof rack for additional,storage when the factory rack failed. Oh and added an additional skid plate in Front. But you’re right it certainly has become a status symbol and a lifestyle statement, I still call it camping.
I built my vehicle to hunt, fish, camp and prospect out of. I spend an average of at least 2 to 3 weeks each season living out of my vehicle in as remote areas as I can find to pursue the game, fish or what I am prospecting for. I average roughly 30k miles a year in my "overlanding vehicle" due to the fact aside from my 2 to 3 week trips I typically head off at least every other weekend to either hunt, fish or prospect and camp to areas within a couple of hundred miles or so from home. I have in the past sought out hard trails, like Black Bear Pass, etc....but at my age, they are only a means to get on the Alpine Loop to fish, camp and prospect.....
YES!!!! You are so right! None of that gear is necessary, period!
Nonetheless, some of us buy "American" Jeeps (I have a 2 doors Sport S without all the bells and whistles as a Rubicon) as a hobby where purchasing all that unnecessary gear is just for the looks. I personally see some of that gear as a comfort thing, not a need! No one needs air conditioners; but we all have them! I don't need a RTT; but I have it just because I like the look and the comfort.
My wife and I enjoy tailgating or going for a one-day camping trip. We open our 270 awning, then the refrigerator, a couple of chairs and enjoy the view under the shade while cooking on an Amazon's Coleman little stove--- in anywhere shade! It is the looks, for sure; and also for our comfort.
AGAIN..... yes, the overlanding world is phony and I agree 100% with everything said in the video.
I'm with you 100%!! I go even one step further back. I have a 05 GMC Sierra 2WD. My modifications are a TruTrack diff, upgraded electrical system, soft top and I do have cheap traction boards just in case. Other than that I'm good with my small camp kit with a JetBoil and easy to make food. This overloading sensation is unbelievable. I wonder if these people are considering the weight of these vehicles and the stress on the suspension and chassis.
@@olliechristopher467 spot on! Someone in 2wd is always at the end of a black-diamond trail... skills are skills... we'll be talking about overloaded overlanders soon, so be sure to subscribe 😉 ❤️
"There is no spiritual awakening" ... lol. I have been thinking about this for a long time.
lolz.. ya it's just called "being outside and stuff" 😆
I really enjoyed this video so much! Great advice as I'm new and a beginner to overlanding. I love this perspective and it gives me more confidence.Thank you for demystifying the process!
Truth hurts!!! Wrangler owner with 2"spacer lift and 33" tires. That's the extent - which gets me out into Death Valley and parts beyond. I am an old style camper with a single burner Coleman stove, ice chest, and ground tent. Works wonderful for me and so very simple to set up and take care of. "Jeep'n It Simple" is my motto. Looking forward to more videos from you.
@mftwomey Wranglers are literally the most capable vehicle stock... we'd have one if it wasn't for the whole Chrysler reliability thing (lolz😆 ). But those angles can't be beat.... the original Landcruiser looked just like a Wrangler... as you know 33s a jeep will do anything 😃 ❤️ ✌️
I agree with most of your points. I live and drive off-road in the mountains of Mongolia. My 4WD is pretty stock. It's a Ssangyong Musso. The only things I've changed are the lights - the stock ones are rubbish and the tires, which are all terrain/all season. I'd say 80% of our driving is off-road. We take a shovel and a tow strap but that's about it.
When we go touring across the Gobi desert, we take a backpackers tent and typical all-purpose camping equipment.
We might buy mud/snow tires this winter because we got stuck a few times (once in mud, once in snow) with the AT tires in the last 3 years. But it was mainly a problem with the 4WD failing which would normally have got us through.
@martinfoster5163 thanks for sharing your experiences 🙏 ❤️ we also find the shovel, rope and oem spiral jack to get us out of 99% of stuck situations... thankfully the stock GX460 headlight are excellent... lightbars are overrated 😆
I agree bro, it’s just showing how much money they can give away to those companies either going into more debt or whatever. Also, those “overlanders” are all over payload capacity which many people overlook. Everything you add to the vehicle takes away from payload including passengers, modifications, gear, etc.
And fuel mileage is destroyed 😊
It's true, putting a canopy, 2 dogs, a couple gas cans, 2 passengers, and a winch on a Tacoma puts you over payload. That's before you put any camping gear in lmao
This video is highly accurate. However, some people just need a hobby and decking out your car with random shit is sometimes fun. The issue I have is that the “industry” makes people think they need thousands in dumb accessories to car camp. The reality is that less is more, and once you stop the anxiety of needing more stuff, the more adventure you have.
Nailed it.
I've often wondered what the infatuation with incorporating the living quarters to the vehicle is all about. Like you said, it's all about a look and trying to portray a sense of adventure.
I do not care what folks do with their vehicles. Most folks learn from experience what works. But you make a lot of good point. Good suspensions, excellent tires, a functional jack, tire repair kit, air compressor, and experience using them are essential. Don’t forget a sturdy shovel.
Great video. The thing is there is nothing wrong with having gadgets and having a cool looking vehicle. Half the things we have in our life is stuff we don't need. The issue is as you said, when the owners of all this gear tells others that you need this in order to be a "true overlander' and how many people miss out on adventures because they think they can't afford it. If you have a car you can afford to be an overlander/car camper. It's also a problem when the guy with 100k in gear belittles the people who don't have / want/ can't afford it.
My overlander/hunting truck/daily driver is a 06 Yukon Denali AWD. Roof rack, 3" leveling kit and 32" tires. Haven't got stuck yet.
You are absolutely right.....but it is really fun to buy things and install them yourself. Same goes for my Harley, Bronco, mountain bike etc. I like when people remove all of those items to sell their truck and then buy them at a huge discount :)
I have been camping out of the back of my trucks for 40 years. My favorite was my old FJ60 I bought when nobody knew what they were. I used a Walmart tarp over the back hatch with 3 poles and it was great. I have a Tacoma now that does have a 3 inch lift, skid plates roof rack, and a wench bumper, but I made some of it. Throw in a reliable tent and there you go.
Nailed it! I've done "overlanding" (mostly dirt roads) in a 1989 Chevy Malibu, a Honda Accord, and a Honda Civic.
I have been a “rig” builder (or better probably “collector”) for several years, working on several cars. Truthfully, these have rarely seen dirt and sometimes barely leave the driveway. You’re absolutely right, it is more about the look rather than the function. Recently, I learned that a friend with mine takes his family routinely camping on “trails” with his family minivan- frankly this humiliated me more than anything you said here lol.
@@gavinmitchell5853 at the end of every black-diamond trail is always a Bubba in a 2wd Dodge and a tow rope
Yep.... it's all about looking good, impressing people at the traffic lights and feeding one's ego.
I see so many big 4x4's with all the off road fruit bolted to them, all nice and shinny, mint condition with no scratches. They have neve been off the road and the only water that gets splash on them is the bucket of car wash followed by the tin of polish.
I have been traveling all throughout Australia since the 90's and the places I have taken 2WD vehicles is way further than some of these shinny 4x4's as mentioned above have been 😆
@@TheSimpleLivingAussie inorite! These same types will then criticize when someone actually _uses_ their skids as intended 0:46 ...claiming such use is "destroying" the vehicle... Overlanding Petting-Zoo culture! 😆✌️
Dude, you just nailed it. Here in Brazil we're in the middle of "overlanding bullshit storm". Thousands of daddy's little boys buying Defenders and other trucks to spend the price of the car again in "overlandig gear" to then go to fancy offices in huge cities. Some "youtube overlanders" are so ridiculously arrogant that make videos telling you that "you are not really overlanding" cause you don't go where they chose and do not use the gear they use. It's really baffling how this people cheat so many people.
@soliduspetrus lolz your comment was hilarious and true... yes the "overlanding culture" has reached toxic critical-mass... they bring their 9-5 rat-race to the trailhead on the weekends... taking 4 hours to conspicuously "air down" for no reason... then they do a bunny trail in slow-motion then film themselves making a pot of coffee for the next 3 hours pretending to be relaxed and "free".... then the charade is over and it's back to cubicle-slavery on Monday
Not to mention how all these 'accessories' like lift kits, larger tires, wheel spacers, roof tents, winches, etc. might adversely affect you, your vehicle, or others (e.g., driveline angles, U-joints, wheel bearings, CV joints, weight, fuel economy, handling, ABS, emergency manoeuvres and potential accident aftermath, calibrated detection sensors and accident avoidance, etc.).
Thanks for this excellent video pointing out all of these marketing or psychological fallacies for 99.9% of the general population!
exactly... the engineering (balance) is thrown of for the sake of image-extremism.... also nearly all common overglamper vehicles are "light duty"... Jeeps, GXs, 4runners, Tacomas... none are actual "duty" trucks meant to carry an actual LOAD... ie all the overlanding plate-steel and Rainforest Cafe in the back... they are grossly overload.
Precisely ...the merry-go-round carousel effect ... larger tires; lift kit; tire carrier; 'beefier' suspension, bumpers, axles, differentials, drivetrain; higher capacity alternators (for their fridge, hairdryer, stereo system, whatever) ... 😂
I hope (but do not think) that the vehicle owners and accessory manufactures know of all of the *engineering* implications of their modifications for all the different makes, brands, and models ...
"Give the consumer what they want" and companies are only too happy to oblige ...
Thank you for this. I haven’t modded my Ford Bronco because honestly I don’t feel like it needs it. My off road experience is nowhere near the max capability of this vehicle. I’ve been seeing a lot of other Broncos being modded out and it makes me feel a bit left out but I’ve tried to stay true to my methodology of not modding until I know I NEED a specific part.
@generalzod6965 keep it stock, here we are on the trail with Broncos:
th-cam.com/video/ZO8SPl3w7eM/w-d-xo.html
!I so love this. I've been taking my Prius into insane places for years. Finally got a Subaru Wilderness and found I do the same stuff, just faster. Don't need any of it. Thanks
Amen. I ran my 2005 Land Cruiser stock and figured I’d upgrade thing when needed. Ended up adding an awning, otherwise just threw my standard camping gear in the back and was good to go.
This is such truth!! I live in Los Angeles and have noticed tons of these vehicles popping up. And I’m like, what are all these crazy vehicles looking like this now, like snorkels on new cars?! Like you’re really forging rivers in your new $90k Land Rover?!
Thank you so much for this video, I'm going out to buy all the things this weekend 😄
While I agree with what you said.. my truck is being built cause I'm bored... It's fun to build.. for me at least... Every trip I strive to take less 🫡
I'm with you brother - builders like to build stuff
I find it funny how concerned everyone is with the spending habits of others.
Absolutely right. I did okay with my 1987 Suburban, a sleeping bag, and a grill. I did wish for a heater one cold night though.