Can I Make Cheap "Premium" Sim Racing Pedals Feel Elite?

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  • @c4ptainscarl3t
    @c4ptainscarl3t ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Thanks for the great video, just one small thing I noticed.
    I own a set of these and I'm pretty sure the brake shaft is M10, not M8.
    Simjack's shop sells replacement elastomers with an internal diameter of 10.5 mm to fit the Pro brake.
    The M8 one's they sell are for their other products, like their handbrake.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh, thank you so much for the note! I’ll pin this comment. Much appreciated!

    • @michaelmarsden5527
      @michaelmarsden5527 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can confirm, I ordered M8 elastomers and they definitely don’t fit.

    • @jgloc25
      @jgloc25 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, M10 for the Pros, M8 for the Minis. Unfortunate that Hawkeng only has 1 hardness for M10 (ie. 85A) in Amazon. One also suggested we can also replace the long spring with the shorter/white spring from the T-LCM (for those that have it).

    • @Bbarrow79
      @Bbarrow79 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jgloc25 red spring works also

    • @jgloc25
      @jgloc25 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bbarrow79 red spring from?

  • @mementomori4972
    @mementomori4972 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The same way you can increase the resistance on the clutch, you can decrease the resistance on the throttle. Just move the bolt where the rod bearing is attached to the lowest position in the slot. You can do that and put the shock back in.

  • @David-G.T.D
    @David-G.T.D ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a set and adjusted the brake travel with the orange bump stop by moving it slightly forward. Then you increased the feel by turning in the adjustment screw on the rod. No elastomers required

  • @Obliv69
    @Obliv69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get skateboard truck bushings around 93 shore and swap out the spring
    You can always drill the bushing to 10mm for easier fit.

  • @travis2222
    @travis2222 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We are always looking for better pedals at a better price. Sim racing can be an expensive hobby.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly right! I think these pedals may be a solid option for many people

    • @SIMRIG412
      @SIMRIG412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya but buying low end junk like these doesn’t help just because they’re cheap!

    • @nickstarlingch
      @nickstarlingch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@SIMRIG412 They're not cheap or junk, they're spectacular. Durable, well-built, great performance. Simsonn and Simjack pedals are crazy value.

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SIMRIG412 ypu clearly haven't been following these pedals.. the simjack UT and their competitors that make the almost identical simmson pedals are generally considered the best value pedals on the market. the price is due to how cheap it is to manufacture in china directly

  • @EluciaDeLuteIma
    @EluciaDeLuteIma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just got mine. They now come with green (they say on the website its 80HA) elastomers if you want a harder feeling pedal. I replaced the preload spring with 4 of those green elastomers and life is great.

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Springs will always be more consistent than elastomers

  • @tarushdei
    @tarushdei ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hawkeng is the brand name you want to look for when sourcing the elastomers. They come in a huge variety of Shore A values (stiffness) and from what I've heard can turn these pedals onto ones way out of their price range for all of $15 CAD.
    I'm on the verge of ordering a set of these to upgrade my T3PA's and I feel like they should last me a good long time.
    Nothing else in this price range at all, even remotely close, for the quality.

    • @KnowerofThings
      @KnowerofThings ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do you have a link for the elastomers?

    • @Obliv69
      @Obliv69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KnowerofThings buy venom HPF skateboard bushings from any skate shop or online. they come in shore ratings from 73 - about 100

  • @Nicklz5555
    @Nicklz5555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always looking at buying these now 👍🏻 BTW use silicone spray rather than dw40 for stuff as dw40 leaves marks and dries leaving it squeaky again .

  • @bertram-raven
    @bertram-raven ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please note you do not need DIView at all. Just calibrate using the Windows controller calibration and set the dead-zones in the sim. You only need to do this once.

  • @Haulinbassracing
    @Haulinbassracing ปีที่แล้ว

    If your going to bearing mod,
    If you use two 6 i.d 8 o.d bearing sleeves you can use 8x14 flanged bearings without a need for any 1mm shim or having any slop between the bearing and hardware. Just use a bolt and nut and an extra bearing when pressing the sleeves into the bearings until the sleeve is even in the bearing and it should be 1 mm sticking out both sides. No need to fumble around with washers.

  • @tracklizard4018
    @tracklizard4018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been considering these for about three years now. Finally seeing them get reviews from both reputable people such as yourself, but also obscure reviewers that go into the more tech side of things has made me much more keen on hitting that purchase button. Could you recommend them without the hydraulic rods? Is there any way you can share which hydraulic rods are included? I've seen a qr code and that they're rated at 100n/10kg or something. The price for four rods for furniture at the same spec seems to be about 20 eur, whereas the seller wants upwards of 80 eur for 3.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s correct, they are marked as 100N

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz9263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Girro Sim sells a set of pedals that are like these. They cost double the price of these but has much better build quality, and they offer elastomers to tune its beake pedal. Plus I think the loadcell Girro Sim uses is rated at 200kg. Both sets need to use DIview or DXTweak for calibration. Between the SJ Pro pedals and Girro Sim's XR Pro pedals, I'm going with the XR's instead. These are too cost cut for my liking.

  • @X1erra
    @X1erra ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot for these! I really wanted to hear your opinion about the Sim Jack Pedals. It might be the budget option I can take if Heusinkveld is too expensive for me.

  • @mcollazo4368
    @mcollazo4368 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I’ve been anticipating this follow up. One question before I pull the trigger to upgrade from my Fanatec Clubsport v3’s. Where would you place these (after upgrades and tuning) in the hierarchy of pedal sets as far as feel. Are they at/above the Sprints (minus build quality differences) and the VRS’s or still closer to Moza and Fanatec? Can’t wait for the full review

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would still have them below the Sprints. The Sprints are still the best set of pedals I own. They’ve been bulletproof and consistent as the sunrise for me for years. And the tuning software is a big plus. But I would say these are as good or perhaps slightly better than all other pedals I own. The Elite V2s and the v3 inverted pedals are right there on feel and you’d be fine with any of them. And the VRS pedals are somewhat unknown to me. I only spent a few hours on them at the Rennsport Summit last year. So I don’t feel comfortable rating them

  • @wagonet
    @wagonet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got these. So far amazing! Very affordable for the quality 🎉

  • @SimRacingCorner
    @SimRacingCorner ปีที่แล้ว +6

    👍

  • @steveworrell
    @steveworrell ปีที่แล้ว

    This is quality content. Nice work, Mike.

  • @tednicholl7025
    @tednicholl7025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3DRap has replacement elastomers for SimJack Pro pedals with different grades such as progressive, hard etc.

    • @c4ptainscarl3t
      @c4ptainscarl3t ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't believe those 3DRap elastomers will fit since they state they're for the SimJack Mini pedals, and those apparently have an M8 brake shaft.
      The SimJack Pros actually have an M10 brake shaft (see pinned comment).

    • @tednicholl7025
      @tednicholl7025 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just received mine yesterday and they came as requested. In the comment section of my order I requested a pair of progressive with M10 ID and printed in black and had them in 5 days to Canada.@@c4ptainscarl3t

  • @BurtSampson
    @BurtSampson ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mike! Guess what? I found out how to drive around on the historic town streets on 1971 nord layout. I posted a video showing how to get out of bounds on it, and i finally had a chance to do some exploring and and I found the city streets. I have a video showing me driving around. No glitching ro modding. Just clipping through a ambulance. I almost think it's an intentional easter egg. Pretty sure it is. I can show you how to get there. I am uploading another video. I was recording while exploring.

  • @Azdag070
    @Azdag070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right on sir, this is very informative. Looking for a new set of pedals for sure. And for the price I can't beat these, for the squeaking noise have you ever tried a dry molybdenum disulfide lubricant. Just not fond of spray lubes around electric components.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much! And yeah, I’ll be careful with the lube, thanks for the tip.

    • @crunchyfrog555
      @crunchyfrog555 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, unless you're certain about the electrical situation with lubricants, best to be safe. I always have electrical grade lithium grease for that purpose.

  • @ProtestTheHero04
    @ProtestTheHero04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for doing this, very interesting! Are they loud? Compared to the Heusinkveld Sprint for example?

  • @jcoulter43
    @jcoulter43 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Mike. Would be cool if these would work with the Fanatec DD Pro on consoles. I'm going to pull the string on a DD wheel base and 2 wheels to run with my PS5 and Xbox Series X this fall and trying to figure out what pedals to pair with this set up. God bless and race on 🏁

    • @micsafdas1
      @micsafdas1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      forget it. only fanatec pedals are supported. there are usb converters though.

  • @Pongomuffin
    @Pongomuffin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good information! Makes me want to improve my t-lcm's 😊

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would take a bit of tuning, but it has the potential to be much better than the T-LCMs

    • @MicroGBY
      @MicroGBY ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard a lot of people saying they switched from tlcm and that they were amazing, even when they hadn't tuned it alot from the start

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MicroGBY I think this would vary depending on the user. The T-LCMs are very “safe” and neutral feeling out of the box, whereas I’d probably categorize the Simjack pedals as harsh. The Simjack throttle is heavy, the brake is spongey and the clutch is arguably too light. So I think the T-LCM pedals are more likely to make more people happy than the Simjacks, but out of the box I’d imagine the Simjacks are going to feel excellent to a smaller group of users

    • @buffalobill1540
      @buffalobill1540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SimRacing604I just ordered a set of these with the dampeners, currently have the pedals from the moza r5 combo, out of the box do you think im going to be happy with them or need to do a bunch of modding to get them feeling better as well? I had to stiffen up the brake on the moza pedals as it was far to light. Thanks.

    • @trey3172
      @trey3172 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@buffalobill1540 Just ordered a set coming from the CSL pedals. You end up doing any modding / adjusting after they came?

  • @MicroGBY
    @MicroGBY ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! Could you try sim jack's shifter, the version that sim racing corner didn't make a video on

  • @illz11226
    @illz11226 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats up brother, very informative video.
    My question is which set of pedals to get, the sim jack pros(post mod) or the simforge mark 1's you reviewed?

  • @Rezamajedi
    @Rezamajedi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own fanatec v3 pedal do you think sim jack pro is better? I'm having all the damper kit and performance kit install, if I move to sim Jack Pro is I'm going to see improvement or should I just stick to what I have

  • @melv45
    @melv45 ปีที่แล้ว

    We should rename these Goldilocks - Some find too stiff and some find too soft - I am really enjoying the stock setup!

    • @Broodjemetbeleg
      @Broodjemetbeleg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too, I love driving road cars in AC, feels great this way. I might try switching one of the elastomers to a spring

  • @regibson23
    @regibson23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adjust the tension on the throttle using the slot just like the clutch. That way you can put the damper back on.
    13:20 you didn't redo the mid for your throttle after you were tweaking the values.

  • @GameChangerPlayz23
    @GameChangerPlayz23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you feel you have been able to get these to be as good or better than the Heusinkveld Sprints? I am curious cause I have the Sprints myself and been thinking about getting another set of pedals as back up. Would love some feedback if you don't mind.

  • @88Nikoli
    @88Nikoli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should’ve got the Simsonn racing set better finish , nowhere near the slop of bearings pedals side movement comes with springs and elastomers all for less than the cost of these Impaid $370 aud, for mine that included 10% tax so take 34 off that is $340 aus or $225 usd . The best thing is they come with proper calibration software no joy con or Di, and stuffing around doing maths and experimenting , deadband sliders and normal set-up procedures, graphs, etc so you can do curved gain instead of linear if needed with five datum points on graph to set curve as per name brands . I love your videos, Mike can send you a copy of the calibration software if you want !

    • @Obliv69
      @Obliv69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can you post a link to the software?

  • @erickim828
    @erickim828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick question: I notice that you are using the HE Sprint baseplate. The Sim Jack Pros are too long, so you would have to screw in only the front two screws. Does that make any wobble/play on the pedals? Also, does the HE baseplate hold the pedals enough to eliminate any flex once mounted?

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have a great eye! You are correct. My Simjack baseplate arrives next week. Thankfully I haven’t noticed any play in the pedals front to back when I only use two bolts per pedal

    • @erickim828
      @erickim828 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SimRacing604thank you so much for a prompt response!

  • @ag7891
    @ag7891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, as always!
    Any thoughts on how these compare to fanatec v3? ( Which is what I'm using now)

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ag7891 thank you! All told, I would stick with the v3 pedals. There are some mechanical and tuning advantages of these pedals, but the v3s are great and it wouldn’t be a huge step up for you.

  • @zsoltkerekes9005
    @zsoltkerekes9005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Did you get rid off the side to side play?

  • @aeppikx
    @aeppikx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i looked at the simjack minis before but i´m actually think i´ll buy these pro ones . i´m totally NOT satisfied with my moza sr-p

  • @piereligio_ds
    @piereligio_ds ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video, do you think that the hydraulic dampers make sense? With the dampers kit, do they also include regular rods? because I'm sure undecided between having those dampers or not

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! The hydraulic damper makes no sense on the accelerator. They could/should definitely ship without that

  • @piereligio_ds
    @piereligio_ds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I’ll pick the bundle with 2 gas dampers, or 1 (not 3 because as I suspected it isn’t very useful on the gas pedal, since the real ones never have any damping feel on it). Is it useful on the clutch, does it actually improve the feeling?

    • @AdamsOlympia
      @AdamsOlympia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dampers are regarded by many as best on the throttle, providing a smoother, more analogue feeling , (sim racing garage review of VNM pedals touches on this)

  • @brunostiglitz7535
    @brunostiglitz7535 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also tighten each screw on the pedal as i found mine came finger tight also the pedals were loose

  • @Bratmouse1
    @Bratmouse1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mike!! How do they compare to the sprints after the mods??

  • @snippidippi
    @snippidippi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it worth buying this aliexpress pedals? Simjack, simsonn and the other two brands that i don't remember? I want to go better then csl pedals and I think is my next step but are they good in the long run?

  • @FernandoGonzalez84
    @FernandoGonzalez84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Dod you ever do a full review?

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi. No, not yet. Hopefully in the next month or so I should be able to churn something out

  • @lukaskliment9646
    @lukaskliment9646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does calibration reset when you unplug USB cable?

  • @andrewduff9822
    @andrewduff9822 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mike, great video, have been considering these for a while now. Wondering if the simjack pedals would possibly connect with the Heusinkveld controller?

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much. I don’t think it would connect to the Heusinkveld pedal software. There is a read/write system within the Heusinkveld software that I believe would be incompatible with Simjack. I’m not too tech-savvy when it comes to software, but I believe there would need to be a digital handshake between the software and hardware for the level of integration that the Heusinkveld software offers

    • @andrewduff9822
      @andrewduff9822 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the reply Mike, Unfortunate, worth a thought.

    • @vangeeson
      @vangeeson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewduff9822 i bought the Heusinkveld Ultimate Upgrade Kit and changed to its elastomers as well as connecting the SimJack pedals to the HV controller box. Now i can fine tune response curves, profiles etc. with the HV software and every game thinks HVs are connected.

  • @lugs118
    @lugs118 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mike, been on the fence about these for a while. Did you manage to reduce the side to side play in these?

    • @melv45
      @melv45 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen somewhere where you can add some preload that helps or update teh bushings

  • @P.I.D.27
    @P.I.D.27 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello nice and informative video ! Do you think it is worth to sell my Fanatec CSL LC pedals and buy one of these?

  • @MRhankylolka
    @MRhankylolka 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wich dimension is the damper i will to try it

  • @lbm323
    @lbm323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Im coming from tlcm with elastomer mods. Seriously considering these given the price to performence. Ive read some calibration dificulties in iracing. Any validity to those claims? My main sim is iracing and if it works well there im sold.

    • @David-G.T.D
      @David-G.T.D ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a set and drive iracing I have had no issues in calibration in iracing. On a sidenote you can also make tweaks in the joycalib file in iracing as well

  • @5tr4le
    @5tr4le ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you choose these or CSL Elite v2? I currently own Clubsport v3 Inverted and was thinking of "sidegrading" to CSL elite v2 but these also caught my eye since I'm looking for something around 300 euros. Started getting pain in my knees from Clubsport due to inability to change the position of the brake, my legs always feel cramped. Also would love to go back to simracing in socks. With Clubsport that was almost impossible, especially longer stints. CSL elite v2 seems perfect for my needs in that sense, however I do like a throttle with a nice resistance so that's why I'm kinda undecided now.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s very close. I like the clean, ready-to-go nature of the CSL Elite V2s. Those are great pedals at a great price. But the Simjack pedals have a level of customization and realism that the Elites can’t match. If you don’t mind tuning and customizing, I’d probably lean toward the Simjacks. If plug and play is more your speed, the Elite V2 is definitely my recommendation

  • @zt2207
    @zt2207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you end up fixing the wobble at all?

  • @Ken_McIntosh
    @Ken_McIntosh ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a link to DXtweek version 5.02.114 i can only find version 2 beta and it does not want to work correctly.

  • @FrostMPB
    @FrostMPB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    remove the spring on the break and replace it with 2 skateboard bushings!

  • @jasonwilcock643
    @jasonwilcock643 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pedal travel should be there on all pedals and be able to tune it out. I get racers wanting on/off switches for pedals to be fast but personally I like realism so to have options when setting them up is good.

  • @suwandicahyadi9213
    @suwandicahyadi9213 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do you buy the pedals base plate from?

  • @diab3lo
    @diab3lo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These look like a cheap version of the BJ simracing pedals wich i 100% recomend

  • @jimkarakatsanis7640
    @jimkarakatsanis7640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Order some few days ago pretty cheap only $330 au 😀

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s exciting! I think you’ll like them

  • @ronziopilato
    @ronziopilato ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed that you've never hit the brake pedal at 100%. Was it done on purpose?

  • @kinangeagle133
    @kinangeagle133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still dont understand why you would have a load cell on the throttle

  • @lIIustration
    @lIIustration 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re pressing gas and brake while trail braking, might be limiting your lap times.

  • @Turbo1602ti
    @Turbo1602ti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldn't you just swap the gas and clutch pedal?

  • @Factsfun-kg4xc
    @Factsfun-kg4xc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3D pribt your own elastimers

  • @truejayoh
    @truejayoh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude you gotta work on your heel and toe, trail braking. Never seen anyone pushing throttle on every brake initiation. Its very bad.

    • @SimRacing604
      @SimRacing604  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do you care?

    • @leymz5507
      @leymz5507 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@SimRacing604 Don't know why he cares, but you should definitely care

    • @SIMRIG412
      @SIMRIG412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @truejayoh Coming from the guy with 12 subs and 1 video using a handbrake when it’s not needed

  • @GETHYE
    @GETHYE ปีที่แล้ว

    300€ is my full sim racing setpup c,:

    • @SIMRIG412
      @SIMRIG412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not $300 is a cheap ass Logitech or thrustmaster!

    • @GETHYE
      @GETHYE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SIMRIG412 Thustmaster T300 is still good for 300€

  • @sharp640SR
    @sharp640SR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard canadian. Hit subscribe.

  • @phillismable6303
    @phillismable6303 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry but you say the same thing over and over again, the video could be half as long.