REVIEW: Marin Pine Mountain 2

[@kayok07]

You helped me get into gravel biking and bikes in general thanks and great content

[@astro61362]

I have a 2019 Pine Mountain with the rigid frame. I guess I just haven't been affected by the weight. It's pretty flat around Houston. But, man is this bike fun. My gravel bike is actually collecting quite a bit of dust since I bought the Pine Mountain.

[@johnsutton6885]

I have a 2018 Pine Mountain (no suspension and the stock 27.5 plus tires). It is an XL and weighs in at 32.5 pounds. It's a blast to ride on the paved and unpaved trails around Columbia, MD. Luckily, the climbs are short. Hoping to take it bikepacking on the Great Allegheny Passage and C&O Canal trails this fall. Thankfully, those trails are mostly flat.

[@chrislang4858]

mountain bikes are great capable gravel/adventure bikes.... and really offers a supple ride too....great to include MTBs once in a while in the channel

[@carlody2244]

I think you should have tested out the Medium. I can see why you the Small worked for you, especially with a shorter top tube length for a more upright ride.
And also, for those who don't like the weight, steel 29+ hardtails with stout frames are never going to be very light, especially at this price point. Biggest recommendation would be to save a pound or so by removing inner tubes and running the setup tubeless with your favorite sealant. And when you wear out those heavy Vee tires, get a set of Maxxis Rekon 29x2.6, save 600g, and see how much faster that bike is!

[@robertcoates2752]

Yeah. I kind of wonder what my steel hardtail weighs (2019 Ragley Big Wig). I bet it isn't too much lighter then that tbh but it is also an XL.

[@carlody2244]

@@robertcoates2752 i ride a small '17 Chromag Stylus, kitted out with X01 and Hope parts everywhere, still 33lbs. Not crazy for a bike that costs significantly less to only weigh a couple of pounds more.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I’m in between sizes and the medium would have been too long with no way to shorten it.

[@davidbonn8740]

No such thing as too many mounts. And I love the term "adventure nipples."

[@marclayman8799]

Thanks for the review. Not many on here. I was originally looking at Pine Mountain 2 but found a Pine Mountain 1 in stock locally. Didn’t have to drive an hour plus to see it.
Ended up with Pine Mountain 1. Will need to upgrade a few things. Dropper, seat, pedals. But for what I’m gonna do, I think it will be an awesome bike easily upgradeable.

[@mauriciomucino1015]

Although the weight make It controversial, I applaud the decision for going with steel, certainly theres a niche for affordable steal bikes, specially mountain bikes

[@jefftoonstra5087]

Chromoly steel has a nice ride feel, e.g., Surly Pug and Instigator 2.0. I also have ridden the old 70’s Schwinn 10 speeds with that cheap “water pipe” steel, not a good ride!

[@marin_bikes]

@@jefftoonstra5087 Those old Schwinns had to use comparatively thick-walled tubing, due to their factory's proprietary "Electro-Forged" smooth welding process. They were tanks, but tanks that'll outlast humanity.

[@schadlarry]

How about reviewing the Surly Karate Monkey. I’m curious how it would compare to your Jones.

[@DucNgn]

I'm interested as well, IMO they're pretty comparative.

[@mayankmandava]

This

[@jonl8816]

I think this is why I landed towards the DSX. I just wish those Handlebars were available

[@TheCaniwisteve]

Nice. A modern drive train 29er
in 90's style for adventures in comfort!

[@volneyhildreth5837]

Just weighed 2018 Marin Pine Mountain 2 in a small frame and it is right at 30 lbs with pedals and one water bottle cage. That version has 27.5 tires.

[@RuezgaDaniel]

As a MTB guy I really like the look of this hardtail other than the weak and dainty looking seat stays. Also, those riser bars with the crossbar for bags and lights are really neat!

[@rasmusvedel]

I think they're narrow for added compliance

[@marin_bikes]

Since the tubing is CroMo, we did not need to put the larger diameter tubing that you may find on an aluminum framed bike. And, as Rasmus below mentioned, the thinner stays enhance comfort, by adding some compliance.

[@robinheil]

Very cool bike. I love that it has rear rack mounts, and that it's a steel bike with modern geometry. My Jamis Dragonslayer is similar in those ways, but maybe just a few pounds lighter. Try getting a hold of a Jamis if you haven't already.

[@andrewraquepaw9878]

Great review Russ, as always! I really like that you are reviewing different types of bikes for different types of riders. This bike looks awesome and quirky in its own right! I used a specialized hardrock 29er on my lastest overnighter in northern Michigan and loved it! Thanks again for quality content! Your channel is an inspiration!

[@whendry22]

Man! So good, thanks for the review. This is a bike I have been eyeing for a while, and always appreciate your perspective. Keep up the good work!

[@nunyabizness5098]

I used to own this bike in a medium. Removing the tubes and going tubeless will save a bit of weight. Where I noticed a almost 3 pound weight loss was replacing those enduro tires with some 29x2.4 tires. The tradeoff was a less supple feeling ride, but it handled going uphill better

[@TheRoyalSh0t]

i got the 2018 pine mountain 1 with plus tires and that thing is a blast despite having slighty older geometry, also it might have the most supple frame i have ever ridden on!

[@barriewylde5915]

Have not ridden the pine mtn but I would like a bike with lots of mounts.It is on my list of bikes I would like to own as well the Jones.thank you for a great review.🇨🇦🚴‍♂️

[@outbackwack368]

36 pounds! Ouch! That's pushing high end eMTB weights! My full suspension 29er only weighs 30.4 pounds with pedals! And my Cannondale Topstone Carbon Ultegra weighs 20 pounds. However, they are the epitome of supple! Thanks for the review!

[@peterronzoni9264]

I love the idea of branching out to some MTB. I am new on the gravel scene but from MTB background, and I feel like certain MTB like the Pine Mountain make AWESOME partypace riding. You should have 5 times as many subscribers!!!

[@r3cy]

Hey, have you considered a video on bike storage? Thinking of a 3rd bike (have a beat up 'old faithful' for daily city use, and something more touring orientated for er... touring. thinking of something 'sporty' i.e mtb/road), the hesitation comes from how i'd make space for it living in a flat/apartment.

[@nathanh281]

Great review! As a relatively chill (novice) MTBer myself I would love to see more vids from you on the topic. The rest of MTB youtube has become focused exclusively on aggressive downhill.

[@AJHillis]

Check out Hardtail Party. Pretty chill for a MTB channel, and he also has a recent review of the Pine Mtn 2

[@joeroche552]

Hardtail party get a second 👍 from me

[@orangevw36]

I bought the 2020 PM 1. The first thing I did was lose the tires. It has the same tires as the 2. Combined, they weigh around 5 lbs and aren’t tubeless capable. The wheel set is also pretty chunky. I’m currently building a set of carbon wheels with Hope hubs so all together, it should come in really close to 30 with upgraded tubeless tires and a way better wheel set. I know it’s not a reasonable upgrade for most people, but I was able to snatch up a Lauf fork for mine as well. It was extremely cheap for me, so I couldn’t pass it up. I should be really close to 30lbs by the time it’s all said and done. I love the ride quality and feel of the bike. It’s fun to ride and bikepack with. I think when the wheel set is done, it will be my go to bike for mor casual bikepacking and short gravel rides

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I think it makes a great base but would cost a fair bit to get the weight down.

[@orangevw36]

Path Less Pedaled agreed. I work in a bike shop and can get parts pretty cheap

[@marin_bikes]

The PM2 tires are tubeless compatible out of the box. Sounds like you have a cool build!

[@orangevw36]

Marin Bikes thanks for the reply Marin. I wanted to tell you guys, the tires I had on the 1... the bead ripped completely out when I removed them. They can’t be used now. Keep in mind, I’m a bicycle mechanic and I remove and install tires every day, I treated these with as much care as I would a customers tire. I realize it could be just a bad set that I got, but you might consider a different brand for your stock builds. I was extremely disappointed in every aspect of that Vee Tire. I love the bike though. The price point is not horrible, but there are other options at a lighter weight. I’ve been a Marin fan for over 20 years now. My first Marin was a rigid Bolinas Ridge chromoly I bought in the mid 90’s. It got stolen about 3 years ago, but was still in excellent condition. Anyway, I’m glad you guys are watching and replying. Our bike shop is still a Marin dealer, and I’m loving the new PM. Like most reviewers are saying... weight is an issue. I have taken it upon myself to lighten it as I was able to buy the bike and parts at an employee discount... so I should have just a little more in the bike than what the retail price is. I’d love to keep you guys updated on the bike some how. I plan on using it as my bike packer... plan on tour divide (non race tour) in 2021

[@marin_bikes]

@@orangevw36 Bummer to hear of your tire woes. We've been pretty happy with the Vee Tires we've been speccing over the past few years, but your comment was passed along to our product development team.

[@sagehiker]

I like the bike for the two track possibilities. Nice review.

[@stevecox8576]

Thanks, Russ, for this review. As someone who’s “biased” toward steel frames for their durability and tradition, I’ve been very interested in the Pine Mountain 2. I want to gain the capability of riding off pavement here in the SF Bay Area, but I’m
waffling between a purpose-built gravel bike purchase vs. buying a trad MTB. This Marin seems to sit right in the sweet spot for me in terms of componentry and price. So, your firsthand report (especially coming from a fellow, 5’8” MTB’ing “noob”) was very illuminating for me. I’m STILL waffling. But, with all the hill-climbing required in my area, I obviously need to look for a more lightweight bike than the PM2. (BTW, I also liked your Jones SWB review, as that has also been on my list.)

[@ajschmidt1048]

There are two other less expensive models of the Pine Mountain. A slightly lower end hardtail and a full rigid. You might save some weight without a suspension and still have some shock absorption with the supple tires. I purchased the 2019 Pine Mountain 1 as my singletrack mtb with 27.5 x 2.9 plus tires. It’s a little lighter than the model you have, perhaps the smaller wheels and no dropper. I actually chose the 2019 since I saw that the 2020 model was going more adventure/bikepacking. I love it for singletrack but I wouldn’t use it for long rides unless I swapped out tires to something like the Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tour. Thanks for the review. It was pretty spot on as a bikepacking bike.

[@MrJimbok1]

I have a 2005 Marin Muir Woods. I would call it a basic commuter bike. It is a heavy duty chromoly steel bike.It is heavy, but I have done over 45 miles in 1 day. You do know it going uphill however.

[@johnnydoe66]

Marin has taken the Pine Mountain and basically taken it from pure Trail Bike to a heavy Trail Cruiser.
Hardtail Party did a review of this bike and rode it on some serious Sedona Trails. His review made my decision to buy my 2020 Trek Roscoe 8 easier. My Roscoe has rear rack mounts and plenty of room for bags.
Ryan Van Duzer used a Roscoe 8 to bikepack around Lake Tahoe.
Mine weighs in at just over 32 lbs. BTW Both are TH-camrs

[@Alex_564]

That's pretty good weight, I take that's with a suspension fork? I'm sure my Bombtrack Beyond+ would weigh about the same with a suspension fork. So, the Pine Mountain weight was a bit of a surprise.

[@johnnydoe66]

@@Alex_564 Yes, the Roscoe 8 came with a Rockshox 35 Gold RL. It's the perfect bike for my style of riding, I am not an aggressive/daring rider like I was almost 30 yrs ago when I started Mtn biking. More cautious, but I still love technical trails that present a challenge

[@frbrable]

I did a test ride on the Pine Mountain 1 recently and thought it felt pretty good. The handlebars did feel really stiff and I would probably change those out. But otherwise, I liked it. Didn't feel heavy at all, but then again, I was riding it around on flat pavement. The seating position only felt slightly upright and I would probably get some more flexible riser bars.

[@kalynstalinski8375]

I bought this bike for my self, swapping the tires and bars made a noticeable difference in weight, now climbs much easier 😊

[@queensalnd]

What tyres and bars😊?

[@kalynstalinski8375]

@@queensalnd maxis ardent rear and aggressor front for the tires, 2.3 width. Quite a bit lighter, and good balance of traction and rolling resistance. For the bar, I run the pnw “range”, and a slightly longer 45 mm stem.

[@tobins6800]

I just got a Surly Pugsley. 26 x 4 tires and wheels. Those go over everything, whether you like it or not. Surprisingly light too

[@jefftoonstra5087]

I have used my Pug for bike touring to hardcore mt biking in Copper Harbor MI, one of my fav bikes!!

[@joeroche552]

The bars remind me of 90s kore bars, proper ol’skool.

[@nmnate]

Some MTB oriented comments here. Might want to re-orient your front wheel's quick release (up keeps it out of the way). I like tool-only thru axles, the QR thru axles are kinda fiddly and you really don't want a loose front wheel. Looks like you're running your brake levers really far down in angle. If you get into any steep terrain stuff, that can put your brakes out of reach when you shift your weight back (basically find a good spot where you can reach them comfortably for all the trails you ride). I'd roll the shift lever and dropper post a little further out of the way (forward), I really like having them just within reach but not so close they can get bumped at the wrong time. Those Marin bars are interesting. Reminds me of some low rise BMX handlebars. I think I usually like 7-8 degrees of back sweep, seems to be pretty comfy (and fairly standard on trail bikes). Most bars have a tiny bit of upsweep, too.
While Marin makes nice bikes (have a friend that just bought a Marin San Quentin 2), I do think they're a little pricey for the component spec. I have a feeling my aluminum frame full suspension enduro (170/160mm travel beast of a bike) is about the same weight... that's heavy! At 5'8", I'd probably have pegged you as a medium MTB frame. You may not notice it for fairly tame trails, but it'll feel a bit sketchier when the trails get steeper. I demoed back to back M & L frame sizes (5'11" here) at a bike park and cemented my L frame (458mm reach) as the right choice. But, I tolerate a longer reach just fine as I'm out of the saddle for a large portion of the ride. My wife has a Small in the same frame, my knees feel like they almost touch the handlebars. Steep seat tube angles are soo nice...really wish mine was a bit steeper for the hard, technical climbs.
It does take a little while to get used to riding MTB. I had BMX bikes as a kid so I never really got used to spending major time seated. MTB is pretty similar. Other than slow non-technical climbs, I really spend the majority of the time out of the saddle (especially anything downhill). Your CG is not in a good position if you're going fast and seated, especially on steep bits or flat corners (or bumpy terrain), plus you don't have your legs for "suspension". Recipe for OTB in many cases.
I can understand your aversion to longer reach if you're mostly seated. There are a few tricks you can do such as shortening your stem length, trimming your bar width slightly or maybe putting your saddle a hair more forward. But, all of those you have to evaluate ergonomics. I didn't like a shorter stem as it took too much weight off my front wheel when in the 'attack position'. Moving my saddle too much bothers my knees. I can ride 760-800mm bars just fine. 780mm really feels perfect for me, though. My advice is to probably have separate bikes for MTB trail riding with minimal gear and bike packing fully loaded. That way you don't have to compromise too much. A 36# 29er with tubed 2.6" wide tires is always going to feel sluggish, especially with slower rolling tires.

[@walkwithmetravel3596]

My Fisher Sugar 4 which is totally overbiking and I picked up for only $275 a few years ago weighs only 26 pounds. I cannot imagine riding 36 pounds...unless it had a motor. Actually, I have a front motor kit coming from Unlimited this November and it only weighs 8 pounds. 26+8=34 pounds, but with a motor. I should do a review on this.

[@_Schreintime]

Those graphics are fire

[@jameszibura]

Yay! Another bike review!

[@naoyawada1880]

Your comment about the handlebars... curious to see if you would be reviewing SQLabs bars in the future. More sweep than usual. Just a thought.

[@adrianbogucki9338]

Hi, how about choosing right size frame of this Bike? I am 187 cm and XL frame on Marin Four Corners, which should fit me according to Marin charts, is too big - i am to much stretched over (reach is way to long). I live in a region where there is No way to try different sizes of Marin frames.

[@yetijoeyetijoe]

It sounds like a wheelset upgrade might lighten the load. As you know, bikes under $2,000 seem to have crazy heavy wheelsets.

[@rasmusvedel]

I want to get that bike just for the number of mounts.

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

That’s what she said.

[@myfreakyvalentine]

Thanks for the review. I was considering this exact bike (but in medium), but the weight was a deal breaker unfortunately. From memory, I had trouble finding a listing on the weight (purposefully I guess) but it was mentioned in online reviews. It's a shame because it's such a great package otherwise.

[@orangevw36]

I have the PM 1. The tires alone weighed almost 5 lbs together. Drop those and go tubeless and it brings the weight down. The 1 also has a heavy wheel set. I’m working on that as well. Just waiting on hubs

[@markgorbsky6888]

I have this bike in med. It is heavy but for me the reach and stack are about perfect for the position I need to be comfortable. The steel frame is just incredibly supple. The skinny seat stays are glorious but the fork sucks actually. I may go rigid and some better tubeless tires and that should be significant weight savings. Going up, I mean it Has a 32/51 if you need it so its not getting uphill in a hurry and I'm fine with that.

[@myfreakyvalentine]

@@markgorbsky6888 Thanks for that. Funny though, I saw a review that criticized the bars for being so stiff.. I would have thought that the forks would have at least taken care of that. You would know more about it obviously, being the one that owns one, but will be interesting to see then how it feels fully rigid.

[@markgorbsky6888]

I don't find the bars stiff but I do fund them oddly tilted down just like hardball party reviewed. Marin says they are upswept but no way. I just roll the bars a little forward and its remedied some. The fork is just not very smooth through its travel at all. My prior Yari was 1000 % better I think rigid and better set of tubeless tires would be better and lighter for sure. The supple frame and geometry is really why you buy this bike i think. If thats not top priority then probably numerous better choices out there.

[@orangevw36]

I sold the RockShox really quickly. I have a rigid Surly fork if I want to use it, but I had a buddy getting rid of his Lauf TR 29 fork, so I snatched it up at a fraction of the price. One of the coolest things about this bike is tire clearance. So an almost mid fat 2.6 set up tubeless would provide an extremely supple ride. If you’re not crushing rock trails, which isn’t what this bike is for, there’s really not a need for a suspension fork. I ride an XL. I road it on a fairly technical track and it’s just way to big and heavy to be fun on tight corners and rocks. Single track with good flow would be fun, but still, cornering at 90 degrees or more sucks with a bike this big. I’ve taken it on a few bikepacking overnighters, but until I drop the wheel set weight, it’s too heavy for long and heavy loaded touring. I also put Jones bars on mine... it’s a fantastic upgrade.

[@Arfonfree]

How could you have too many mounting points. Even if you're not using them all, there's going to be one pretty much where you want it.

[@orci77]

Good point on Marin: you get the bikes in Germany.
Will it get in the cave of bad ideas for a drop bar retrofit?

[@kurt_on_dirt228]

I think drop bars would be fitting on it but I bet that was just a media loaner and not owned by Russ.

[@robertcoates2752]

I think you would be super stretched out fitting drop bars on any modern mtb.

[@orangevw36]

I put Jones bars on mine. Perfect upgrade for me

[@tecstrat]

36 lbs?! My 170mm enduro sled is 29 lbs. Would enjoy videos on full suspension MTB bike packing setup options. Full suspension is super supple ;)

[@johnnyguzman3429]

I have the previous model of the Pine Mountain ( rigid version). I think the geometry was better specced for trail riding and I didn't notice any heaviness on long uphill climbs. The sluggish climbing is mostly due to the suspension fork IMHO.

[@broadfjord7087]

Johnny Guzman the previous model used a nicer/lighter steel.

[@johnnyguzman3429]

@@broadfjord7087 Mine comes in at 33lbs for a large. That's 3 pounds less than the bike with suspension. Mine also uses Series 2 tubing and the one Russ reviewed supposedly uses series 3 triple butted tubing. The front fork and dropper post make all the difference.

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Didn't the previous version also have 27.5 x 2.5-3.0 rather than this 29 half fats?

[@johnnyguzman3429]

@@SiopaoSauc3 That's correct. 27.5x2.8 tires.

[@marin_bikes]

@@broadfjord7087 The new Pine Mountain 2 uses a tubing that is very similar in specifications to the Columbus Thron-branded tubing we usedon the previous Pine Mountain 2s.

[@jmmyvlrd]

Nice review sir! I found the handlebar is over 800mm, are you using it stock length? Or cut to shorter one?

[@frbrable]

Question: What weight could one reasonably aim for on a new steel hardtail with 29" wheels, in the $2000-3000 range? Does 30 lbs sound about right?
This bike looks rad, but 36 lbs. is a lot. My 1997 hardtail MTB only weighs 30.5 lbs. with a rack on it! I need a good reason to upgrade!

[@Mike-vd2qt]

I wonder if they stopped using the proprietary NAILD rear axle system?

[@daytch9485]

Someone else's review noted it was a tank too. Idk how you could end up getting a bike that heavy even with plus width rims? It looks like a good spec on paper.

[@thelazyreconnoiter583]

Been waiting for this review

[@ROBinJVILLE]

Pine mtns are 29rs now? Damn I want one. Mine is a 27.5 plus

[@marin_bikes]

We made the change for the 2020 model year.

[@ROBinJVILLE]

@@marin_bikes right on. i have a 2017 rigid.

[@stevelash5821]

Where are you? Wanna sell the 27.5?

[@sheilastallard]

Hot news Russ!. My husband as just ordered a Surly Crosscheck frame set and forks, He is having it built with Shimano GRX gravel group set and Hope hubs, headset and other bits. His having 28mm tyres , now that is a tractor tyre to him!. Do you think this is "Party Pace"?. Keep Safe! Love from England xx

[@BPlus-oz7cm]

Nice review Russ! I've got a Trek Xcaliber 9 that I use for those rides that are just a little gnarlier than I'm up to on my gravel bike.

[@biking261]

36lbs wow that is a lot, are you sure the frame tubes are hollow? shame as its a good looking bike

[@arminhess1512]

36 lbs for 2100 €???? That's hard dude!

[@CasperRc81]

If 5 extra pounds taps you out how would you notice it at say 15-30lb of gear seems strange

[@sanctums]

0:20 whats that frame bag?

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Bags x Bird

[@ilyalope]

How about an Esker Hayduke review? Another bikepacking hardtail with nicer components.]

[@alexhsieh8348]

Can you review RSD sergeant?

[@alex.broman]

5:36 What bag is this? Looks like Fabio's chest or something.
And how did you mount it? Is there a rack or any bottom supporter things?
I have Jamis Dragonslayer bike with suspension fork and am trying to find a way to put a flap bag on the bar-ish area - and still have no idea how exactly should i fix it.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Bags x Bird

[@RiggerHippie]

Try looking at Road Runner Jammer Bag

[@Matt-dx3wo]

Constructive criticism: worth mentioning that the stack barely increases as you go up in frame size, while the reach grows quite a lot. Your fairly upright short reach, is my too low :-) because I am on the upper end of XL frames. Your saddle is actually below the handlebar height! That's amazing and never happens for taller riders unless they buy a Jones or something with else with super long steerer tube.
Since you are hyper focused on discussing how different geometry numbers affect your perception of the ride, it would be nice to hear a little more discussion of how geometry changes (or rather, doesn't change) with frame size.
In the end, your are on the shorter end, and I am on the taller end, so our perceptions of fit and handling will be completely different and I suppose all I'm asking is that you point that out when making statements like "if you like a short reach and a fairly upright riding posture, then the Pine Mountain will work for you", because this is simply not true for the XL frame size! Especially with that ridiculously short 430mm chainstay, talk about drunken goat on steep climbs...

Those welds around the head tube don't look very neat.

[@conan7496]

Did Russ say 36#'s? That's way to much weight.

[@Bacciagalupe]

Looks super awesome

[@hardmtnbiker]

Dang, that’s a tank! It looks amazing and I guess if your truly just looking to putt around flat trails and not going to do any serious climbs up to your camping spots, who cares.

[@racerx8410712]

Nice bike but 36lbs? That's average fat bike weight. Steel is a great frame material but it doesn't make sense to me in this category. I have a friend with a Santa Cruz Chameleon. We swapped out the 27.5+ wheels and tires for a 29er set and it still weighs 32lbs! No thanks!

[@RidingEasttoWest]

Hmmm, maybe I'm missing something but $2000 + 36 lbs. = No Sale for me. That seems like a ridiculous amount of money for a bike that tips the scale at that weight.

[@dontspamkoth]

I think Marin really missed the mark on this bike. I don't really understand who or what it is for. It's too heavy for a bikepacking bike. If it's a trail bike, why so many mounts on a bike for trails? I hope they redesign it for next year because this could be a great rigid bikepacking bike like the Pine Mountains of previous years.

[@marin_bikes]

It's designed to be a fun, do-it-all trail bike, skewing more towards the bikepacking side of things. Mountain Bike Action proclaimed it as "The Most Versatile Bike Ever" in their September 2020 issue: s3.amazonaws.com/craft-marinbikes/documents/reviews/MBA_09_2020_MARIN_PINE.pdf

[@johnnyguzman3429]

@@marin_bikes I reviewed the previous year's Pine Mountain on my blog and had a lot of good things to say about it. Maybe send me the 2020 model and I can review it as well? Thanks. bicyclepointofview.blogspot.com/2019/08/marin-pine-mountain-1-long-term-review.html?m=1

[@mykytajex2248]

You really should have tried a medium size frame. You looked a bit cramped.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I’m in between sizes and the medium would have been too long with no way to shorten it.

[@bradsanders6954]

36lbs in a small.......................that is a cheap steel frame no doubt.

[@insertgoodname4809]

That frame is *way* to small for you. Your knees should not be hitting your wrists when you pedal.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I’m in between sizes and the medium would have been too long with no way to shorten it.

[@dankoch5357]

Bro says he's 5'8", but we all know that he's actually 6' since we gotta add 2" for the shoes and since no one is actually 5'10" we will just round to 6'. I'm a physicist so I know what I'm talking, I promise.

[@coasterigh2684]

Most mounts? Surly Troll.

[@jeromeduno6671]

Hi sir. Do you think it fits this bike for a 5'2" rider? You think this would have clearance on my balls? Hehe. Hope you will respond to my question. Safe and god bless 😉👍

[@JeffCowan]

Too heavy.