ไม่สามารถเล่นวิดีโอนี้
ขออภัยในความไม่สะดวก
First Look: 2020 Marin Pine Mountain 2 Steel Adventure Hardtail - Hardtail Party
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2020
- In this episode we take a first look at the 2020 Marin Pine Mountain 2, a steel adventure hardtail built for bikepacking and trail adventures. Check it out as we reveal some unique elements of this bike. Stay tuned as we take it on some trails in the future, including an overnight bikepacking trip to give it an onboard review. Learn more about this bike here: bit.ly/3jretCT
Did you learn something valuable? If so, show your appreciation and support this channel by becoming a Patron today: / hardtailparty
Show your love for hardtails by sporting some Hardtail Party Swag (hats, shirts, hoodies, etc.): shop.spreadshi...
Other gear I use:
My glasses: bit.ly/3aXBeKp
My tire sealant: bit.ly/2ULJirZ
My pedals: amzn.to/2V9DzuK
My ZIPP 3ZERO MOTO wheels: bit.ly/33G0Wjm
What's in my water bottles: bit.ly/2Xbxy3q
Hardtail Party Shirts, Swag, etc: shop.spreadshi...
Support the channel and save some money by shopping using these links:
bit.ly/2WbHycF - 20% off at Club Ride using code "hardtailparty"
bit.ly/2UwrmQq - Ryan Leech Connection: $19 off - coupon code "hardtailparty"
bit.ly/2U8OyFE - Velocirax racks - 5% off using coupon code: "hardtailparty"
bit.ly/3adSvyv - CushCore - 15% off using code: "HTparty20cush"
Amazon: amazon.com/shop/hardtailparty
Note: some of my links are affiliate links. That means I get a small commission on the purchases you make through these links. You don't pay anything extra, but it helps support the channel. If you've learned something from my videos, consider using the affiliate links above.
Update: I reached out to Marin and they told me the chainstay window is to save weight. On a lot of bikes, (including this one) the chainstay yoke is a solid piece of steel, so removing some extra material here saves weight.
That bike has caught my eye a few times. Pretty cool unit for the money. I especially like all the frame mounts. And that head tube angle is plenty for an adventure bike!
I've ordered this. Can’t wait to see how it does on the trail!
Excellent, welcome to the family!
Love that Marin is sending their stuff!! Hopefully the San Quentin is next
We'll happily send one if Steve wants.
Thanks guys! I'll be in touch. :)
Sick
They mentioned in the comments on their hawk hill releases to watch out for San Quentin August 3rd.
Marin has been making some cool looking bikes!
Love your content.
You have the it factor like Seth Bike Hacks . Your channel will continue to grow.
Thanks. I sure hope it does, I'm happy with the growth I've experienced already. I try to rely on good content instead of clickbait titles. It's a slower growth, but I have a stronger audience because of it.
My kids even hate click bait! Your content is always spot on.
I was riding a bike with a quick-release on time and the wheel fell off on a black trail, the 12mm does make a huge difference. The Marin looks so nice
Got the 2020 pine mountain 1. Lovin it.
Rock on! It's a sweet bike.
Bro I own the Marin pine mountain 2017 rigid frame. I am in love with this bike. I run 3" tires. Absolutely great feeling great riding bike. This new 2020 must be amazing. More range better components and front fork. Must be a great bike overall
Hope you have the opportunity to throw a leg over one of the new ones at some point.
Interesting bike & timing. I’ve been thinking of repurposing my old Chromag Rootdown as an adventure bike. 67deg HA, 73deg SA, 140mm travel... This bike is telling me it would work.
Of course it would work, that'd be a great candidate!
@@hardtailparty I'm slightly confused by the praise for the 66 degree HT angle on the Marin -- is this just because you're interested in hybrid bikepacking/trail-shredding use? Might someone looking for a "pure" bikepacking bike actually prefer a steeper HT angle? With front loads such as the handlebar roll you mentioned (but possibly more so with fork blade/3-pack cages on a different fork) I'd think you might get more wheel flop with the slacker angle. Enjoyed seeing this bike in the recent obstacle course video, where the short chainstays seemed to be an asset.
Can't wait for your review, might be an option for my next bike.
Man brings back memories of my Pine Mountain with sweet Columbus Cyber tubing from back in the day. The only thing I didn't like is the under the bottom bracket cabling.
Beautiful bike
Just bought this bike, should hopefully arrive at the end of this week🤞🏼. Haven’t ridden mountain bikes in a long time, but super keen to get back into the saddle, plus it’ll be good to get out on 2 wheels when none of my mates are available for a Motorbike ride 👌🏼
Holy cow that's a lot of frame mounts! Great looking bike :) looking forward to your first ride vid.
All the utility warts! Or adventure nipples. Whatever you want to call them, we are happy to give our riders options.
My Trail bike has the RS 35 Gold fork. It is decent once dialed in. Out of the box with the pressure set for my weight and no spacers it was too bouncy, I took out 15psi and added two spacers and it made a massive difference, it now flies through chunk, and still doesn't have bottom out issues and I'm a bigger rider.
Yeah, I dig this little fork
Can’t wait to see how it does on the trail!
Just bought a 2021 Pine Mountain 1. Nice review. Didn’t think I needed all the extra specs on the Pine Mountain 2. Can upgrade as needed. Only wish it had PM 1 had thru rear axle. Can’t wait to pick it up today and start riding!
Yeah, i wish the PM1 had a thru axle
Great looking bike, the tan walls suit it (I'm generally not a fan of them). I'm loving all of the integrated mounting points, loads of options for different bikepacking set-ups.
i got the 2018 pine mountain 1 and i love it!
Excellent!
Good discussion on the thru-axle vs qr. I have a Mason 1 with qr, I think the qr is the only thing wrong with the bike but I did get a killer deal on it. And I think your right, the qr does make the rear end feel more compliant on bumps...
San quentin next please. I realy like your reviews.
Love Marin.... I have couple of them always happy with them.
Same issue here but the 135q9 for example buy the Shimano XT. It will fix that issue. I’m a 225lb hard peddler and the wheel is centered now and does not dive into the lower left chainstay.
I've always had a soft spot for Marin Bikes. I'm planning on making a San Quentin build
Man can't wait Till the review on the El Rey 🤩
I could bei wrong but many of the cheaper brake rotors are actually just lasered out of the base material... In Shimano, machining the surface starts at the SLX equivalent brake rotors afaik...
I really like the bar... Could be a nice aftermarket thing as well... I mostly ride 40mm rise Renthal Fatbars and sometimes wish there was a 50mm version...
I haven't run a tan wall tire since... many decades ago. They used to dry rot way faster than the tread wore, which irritated me very much! I am sure the rubber composition is more durable these days.
Let's hope so. I remember the same thing.
So awesome, I am learning a ton from you!! I have been wanting to see this bike as well as the Marin San Quinten.
Hopping you can get your Hans on the SQ!!
In the comments below Marin has chimed in and said they're willing to send a SQ. Great news for all!
hardtail party super cool!! Now I am a kid at Christmas, hurry up and wait, ha. THANKS AGIAN!!
Wow. I just looked at the geometry specs, and that is one upright bike. You'll be sitting-up in the saddle like it's a dressage competition.
It's a fun bike to ride, it's very comfortable.
@@hardtailparty I'm looking forward to the review. I found my SIR 9 to be too upright before I flipped the stem over and that was at least an inch lower than that riser bar. Gotta give them credit for knowing what they want.
Gotta love unboxing new bikes all the time! Lucky guy!
I know the previous gen PM came with 27.5+ I'm curious if this new frame has room in the rear to set it up the same?
One question I can't get answered, if I bought this bike, would I be able to do the smallest of small jumps without being worried of breaking anything? Such as jumping on and off curbs and the highest being maybe a foot of clearance from the ground.
any modern bike will be able to handle that unless you weigh 300+ lbs.
@@hardtailparty thank you very much for the help, I weigh nowhere close to that even on a good day I'm 5' 10" and weigh around 185. I really appreciate the confirmation. I was assuming that would be the case but where ever I searched there was nothing to find.
Dude, you have to check out the Marin Sanquentin series. Amazing hardtails
I'm familiar with them. I'll get one in on review soon. Stay tuned.
Great video. I’m looking for a “do it all” trail hardtail for the Midwest and am really interested in the Kona Honzo (and Timberjack). Any plans to review the Honzo?
Yes, I'll review one soon. I've ridden a few and I don't love them
Nice workshop !
I'm thinking that the chain stay cutout is for shedding mudd
Saving a little bit of weight.
I think it's a little nook used for stashing a small amount of mud for those sunny days!
@@patchesthejaybird8431 Could be, to remind the rider that it's not always sunshine and lollipops.
@@marin_bikes Just kidding of course. Looks like a terrific bike for bike packing and adventure!
Hi Steve that bike looks great I've found some awesome steel frames check out planet X on one Hello Dave frame it's got super slack geometry might be right up your alley
I've been trying to get one in for review. No luck yet.
There a direct sales company here in the UK I've seen Guy Kesteven was sent one for a review he has a TH-cam channel aswell try contacting him for help all the best Dave
I was looking at the Marin Nail Trail, which seems to be in between the san quentin and this, maybe this is worth a look, dont see many reviews etc for the nail trail.
Just bought one! Would love to hear how its riding on trails without bags!
Coming soon with and without bags.
I know this video is quite a few years already, but can someone say what the chainring clearance is on the Pien Mountain? Can't find any info regarding that. Would love to run a 36 tooth chainring.
the only qr that i have seen that wont slip are closed cam. i dont know why they changed the design on those
Will you ever review any Giant bikes? I'm finally getting my first real mtb other than cheap big box store mtb. My first choice is a fathom 1 and second is a talon. I cant decide 27.5 or 29er either. I love your channel. Keep the hardtail party going.
Depends on your height & stature just like frame sizing. If your 5'10" & taller with long inseam definitely 29er Lg. Also depends where & how you ride. Ground clearance not as important on gravel, trail backpacking like it is on mtb or downhill.
@@Dauntless.steadfast.fortitude thank you! I went with a 27.5 fathom and I love it so far. Stay safe!
review the San Quentin!
Maybe when I'm done with this bike I can get a San Quentin for review..
@@hardtailparty Will be looking forward to it.
@@hardtailparty Happily!
Can you take a look at the nukeproof scout?
hardtail party is based in the US. From what I can tell, it seems like Nukeproof is a ChainReactionCycles house brand, sold in the UK only.
I've seen Nukeproof bikes on the trails in Phoenix Arizona. Someone here is selling them.
Now that we're reviewing a bike packer style, how's the RSD Sergeant stack up?, I really like that frame...
I ended up returning the sergeant to RSD. It was a loaner bike for review. Solid bike with long chainstays and lots of versatility.
Did you find anything out about the rotors? I recently got a San Quentin 3 and by the sounds of it they have those same rotors. I'd be interested to know what you find out.
I think the rotors on that are the shimano for resin pads only, I have them on my bike, and they are not machined either, rotor even says resin pads only, just a heads up, they are difficult to bed in, takes a while
I looked all over for those markings, but it doesn't say for resin pads only. I've seen the resin pad only rotors before and they appear similar. I'll have to do more research.
I don't know what the MT520s are but the MT420s on my Hawk Hill 3 are resin only. And for some reason the brake pads are like $30 a set. Hopefully an aftermarket company will release some cheaper ones.
Hi I was looking at the San Quentin which also has the cables routed underneath the BB and chainstay but am concerned about snagging cables underneath and the angle of the cable to get to the derailleur. Do you think the cable routing is ok for trail riding and the tight angle into derailleur works ok?
Its not ideal, but it's ok.
You know what I'm thinking that cut out is on the chainstay it very well might be so when your chain drops or for the chainring being so close to the chainstay under Flex it might gouge it up I'm very curious to find out what that is myself or can be just for the flex like you're saying I just know on my bike I dropped the chain because I didn't engage the clutch after cleaning it chain dropped gouged up that section A little bit
I heard back from Marin. The window is for weight reduction.
Get a twitter account Steve! Sheesh! Your videos are so cool bro!
Review the 2020 KHS 6600 bike 👍😀🚴
Would this bike with a steeper head angle be appropriate for more hardcore trails/enduro riding? For instance if it had a cane creek headset with the 2 degree angle cup?
Usually a slacker head angle makes a bike more appropriate for hardcore trails. A 66* head angle is great for a bike like this. It's not designed for hardcore trails, but I think it'd do ok on most.
Hi! Great video. I'm curious about the size you're riding (and you're height if possible). My LBS dosen't have them in stock and I'm trying to get an idea of the size to get seeing as the geo is more adventure tuned. I'm usually between a M and a L. Thanks!
I'm 5'6" and this is a med. The seat is too tall for me with a 150mm dropper. You can't fully insert the dropper because it hits the water bottle boss on the seat tube. So I'm a little too short for it. But I like the reach. I base my bike sizes off of their reach measurement.
@@hardtailparty great, thanks for the input!
Could you do a video on mountainbikes for tall or really tall people im around 6.4/6.5 and i recently bought a nukeproof scout 2020 XL but it still feels small, is it me or are there any bike companies with bigger frames
Nukeproofs are extremely small. I'm normally s medium, and on the Nukeproof I'd be an XL. I'm 5'6" tall
Where can I buy one of those shirts?
See link in video description
Tan walll... I'm waiting for the return of the natural (gum) rubber color.
Some companies have true gun wall tires, especially in the gravel realm
@@hardtailparty Oh, I know. But sadly niether Teravail or Maxxis has decided tires should come in natural colors....
@@joshuarebennack68 I'm with ya, I much prefer a true gumwall.
What is the weight?
I list it at the end of the video.
I see tan side walls, I click
You're not alone. I love tan sidwalls, provided the tread is correct for my terrain.
im very sorry but it looks aweful
To each their own. I love it.