Porsche DOES NOT want you to know this!!!

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  • Video shows what is really under the skin of a 911 when compared to a Boxster or Cayman. Also shows how a 911 costs less to produce than a Boxster or Cayman.
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  • @x.x..x.x
    @x.x..x.x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +486

    As a former Porsche technician, I can confirm you are correct on all counts in your analysis. Outstanding review!!

    • @akane742
      @akane742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thats crazy. modern marketing ? why do they do it ?

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@akane742My guess:
      Porsche wanted to sell an ‘entry level’ car to a wider market without cannibalising the 911 market.
      The shared platform was a necessity as Porsche was in a bit of a financial pickle when the new 911 and Boxter were first developed. There simply wasn’t the money for different platforms.
      Please note that the ‘S’ variant Boxter is compared with the Carrera 911.
      The less expensive base Boxter has no 911 equivalent and the models above the Carrera don’t have Boxter equivalents.
      Porsche must have thought that they would get away with it and they did! 😁

    • @Czeslaw_cn4tv
      @Czeslaw_cn4tv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@akane742 i would assume part of it is to get people onto the Porsche ownership bandwagon. That would also explain why they try to hide how good the cheaper cars are; the owners get to experience it and fall in love with the brand while those with a 911 can feel superior.

    • @991.2gt3
      @991.2gt3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      First of all, if you have the ability and resource to take apart a car why the hell are you acting like you just discovered fire when you found out that manufacturers nowadays share platforms, chassis, engine, tuning, or any parts. The 718 and 911 even share the same production line, back in the 996 and 986 era they even look the fucking same)
      In your philosophy, any Audi, Lexus, or BMW buyers other than the 3 series are idiots since they’re essentially based on platform from cheaper cars. (Mbq, tnga, klar…)
      Also if you ever drove those cars on the limit, you’ll soon realize that the 911 is a much more capable car than the 718 (base vs base, s vs s, gts vs gts). Not even getting into the options, don’t know if you’re aware that the base 718 doesn’t even come with an LSD. Of course, you can argue that we don’t drive a spec sheet.
      But most people just jump to the conclusion that the 718 drives better due to its smaller footprint, not even pushing. Even you do find it better to drive, there are still benefits of the rear engine layout. In terms of driving, the RR layout exaggerates your flaws. Any bad inputs can result in severe oversteer or understeer. Modern 911 can be a better teaching tool as oppose mid engine cars. Also, due to the rear biased weight distribution, you can load the brakes extra hard and trail brake deeper into a corner. And when you jump on the throttle the weight distribution gives you added traction(that’s also why the 992 turbo beats so much cars in quarter mile with “only” 650hp and 4wd). Not even mentioning the practicality, name a sports car platform that is capable of sub 7 nordschleife laptime and has usable rear seats. Nonetheless , the 911 has a much richer lineage and better image as oppose to the 718.
      Last, unlike other lineups (ferrari roma vs 812, mclaren 570 vs 720 .etc) To me there’s no clear hierarchy between the 718 and 911. It’s really just a matter of preference and taste (the fact that you can essentially option a 718 to the price of a 911.) Just think about it, if the 718 doesn’t have something superior to the 911 (might be it’s size or mid engine characteristics), what is the point of it existing when the world have the more capable and practical 911. Porsche surely can just make a cheaper 911.
      Ultimately, those are road cars, value to money or driving experience isn’t everything, even less when it comes to “premiums” like 911 and 718. Our choice of road cars is a combination of taste, value, driving experience, practicality .etc. Otherwise, we’ll all be driving around in caterhams, mx5s or RAV4 towing our radicals to the track.
      When your nit picking on a 911 or “luxury” product, you might as well just buy a Yaris.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@991.2gt3 You are making the wrong comparisons.
      The Boxter S should be compared with the Carrera. They are almost identical which is much more than just sharing a platform.
      It’s like the VW Up!, Seat Mii and Skoda Citigo. They are also almost identical but their prices are also nearly the same.
      Similarly you could compare the Toyota Aygo, Citroen C1 and Peugeot 108. Almost identical cars at almost the same prices.
      The Carrera however is much more expensive than the Boxter S and that’s remarkable.

  • @AM-uk7jv
    @AM-uk7jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +433

    I bought a 718 Cayman S new as my first Porsche and as a "stepping stone" to a 992 911 Carrera T, but I quickly changed my tune after the first 1000 miles. I'm keeping my Cayman, flat 4 turbo and all because I love the damn thing. Perfect size. It's legitimately fast. Handling is perfection. And it sounds great even as a 4 cylinder. The fact that I specced it out to be exactly what I wanted means that I formed some sort of emotional connection to it. There's just something about buying your first Porsche and speccing it exactly the way you want it to be.

    • @amac8487
      @amac8487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Funny, I did the same thing. I have a 2018 Cayman GTS (4cyl). I bought it CPO and was planning to get into a 992 within the next few years. My girlfriend actually has a 992 911s, and I’ve driven it handfuls of times. Never once do I get out of the 911 and think “damn, my cayman just is no match for it”. Other than a slightly better exhaust note, there really isn’t much I feel like I am missing to add to the price increase of nearly double. It surely isn’t double the car ….

    • @refuztosay9454
      @refuztosay9454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You are so right - I bought my first Porsche- a 944 in 1984 - the same way. Ordered it in May and it showed up in January. Her name was Tricia and I kept the car until 2000. I’ve had a Macan, Cayenne and 2 911s since then - but none are as special as Trixie.

    • @Zstig991
      @Zstig991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then its got to be the fact that you can put 2 half size humans in the back of 911 they charge you double that of a 718​. Only thing justifiable for the price I guess@@amac8487

    • @ozTomSawyer
      @ozTomSawyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Lucky you, I can only afford the base Boxster, it struggles to drive up to a steep ramp but other than that I am very happy with it. Even if I had the money for a 911 I would still want a Boxster cause I hate the useless rear seats on the 911 and the lack of a trunk 😅

    • @AM-uk7jv
      @AM-uk7jv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@ozTomSawyer There's nothing base about a base Boxster. They're still true sportscars. The 'base' models set the already incredibly high standards and higher trims just add a bit more to it.

  • @Okroshka981
    @Okroshka981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    You can even program certain control modules in the 981 as 991. I changed the programming of the electronic power steering module in my 981 to the GT3 calibration using PIWIS and I am really enjoying the steering feel. It's heavier at low speed but I feel like it gives me more feedback especially when cornering at higher speed.

  • @differentbreed3446
    @differentbreed3446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    981 owner here!
    This man knows his stuff.
    Thanks 😃😃😃

  • @6thSense93
    @6thSense93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    Why am I seeing this guy's channel for the first time?!? and why does he have only 2.5k subs? :(
    Great video, I loved it.

    • @charliegrech5598
      @charliegrech5598 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Because the truth hurts…..some.

    • @glasair38sr
      @glasair38sr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same.

    • @manofsesame3024
      @manofsesame3024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because the algorithm knows you are interested in Porsche only

    • @crypto_que
      @crypto_que 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro nearly doubled his subs in 4 days!

    • @sprig6043
      @sprig6043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @artiegohome
    @artiegohome หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    This video was just shared in a Boxster owners Facebook group and after watching, I immediately logged into TH-cam to subscribe to your channel. I can’t thank you enough for making this video. I love deep dives into everything from baseball stats to melodic death metal. You didn’t just get into the weeds, you expertly navigated them. I actually feel better educated about Porsche after watching this. Job well done, Sir. 👏👏

  • @milk-it
    @milk-it 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Nice deep-dive. I almost didn't click the click-bait title of this video, but I'm glad I did, now.

    • @brunodesrosiers266
      @brunodesrosiers266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same here!

    • @anthonye1028
      @anthonye1028 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same here. Turned out to be the opposite of click bait.

  • @kizmaiaz7671
    @kizmaiaz7671 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +215

    The poor man's Porsche ? Rather the smart man's Porsche, no ? Porsche"s marketing department is laughing all the way to the bank... Thank you so much Mr. Richardson for all your videos !

    • @Bluearmy76
      @Bluearmy76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fools and their money…

    • @williamjackson5357
      @williamjackson5357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fools an their money are easily and quickly separated 🏎

    • @trentbateman
      @trentbateman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WTF you get to the end of the video to drop the only thing that matters for new Porsche buyers….THE NEW 911 IS NOT ON THE SAME PLATFORM AS THE 718 CAYMAN!

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are substantial engineering differences between the cars though, the 911 is still the higher performance car, the engine sits lower for example. Its a minor mystery as to why the boxster/cayman didn't simply have its motor lowered an inch and a half, but largely its split between Porsche protecting the 911s status and the other car being engineered for a less sporting purpose. The cayman is more of a normal daily driver car with raw performance being less of a priority. Which is weird because not only is the 911 the smart man's sports car with a back seat and decent storage, a car that can actually be driven in the real world, but the cayman sacrifices that practicality for a traditional sportscars mid engine layout.....
      I know that dating all the way back to the first Porsche the engineers wanted a mid engine chassis, but other concerns pushed them to adapt VWs rear engine economy car layout. Then after decades of building a dedicated fan base, every attempt to move towards a fundamentally better layout caused a major backlash. The original Boxster wasn't an exception there.
      Imo, if they had the conviction, they could easily build a Cayman/boxster that cleanly beats the 911 in all metrics, and challenge the 911 elites to choose between tradition and winning.

    • @samkostka126
      @samkostka126 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DrewLSsixThey kind of already have admitted that the Cayman is the better platform. The 911 RSR switched to mid-engine in 2017

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ultimately, I went with the 991.1 C2. I test drove: 981 S and 718 base and S. The cars are identical in all the ways that don’t matter, but different in all the ways that mattered to me. When I drove the Caymans, they felt TOO perfect, like all the playfulness had been squeezed out of them. They were objectively “perfect,” but they lost some soul in that pursuit. When I drove the 997.2 and eventually 991.1, I fell in love with their handling characteristic. They had 80-90% of the “perfection” of the Caymans, but retained all of the playful fun due to the engine placement and rear suspension changes. It’s NOT on rails, you have to tame it and control it, you have to dance with it.
    That’s what I wanted and that’s what I bought!

  • @getacloo5524
    @getacloo5524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    This is excellent, thank you for the time and effort you put into all of your videos for the 981 platform. You are a truly a great resource for these amazing cars.

  • @Jimjef
    @Jimjef 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    How.do you only have 4k subscribers? I feel like I hit the jackpot finding you. I'm a skilled technician and geek out on stuff like this. You're the opposite of Stradman. No show, all go. Love it.

    • @09NXN06
      @09NXN06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed!

    • @gabem8119
      @gabem8119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because all the 911 owners are getting together and hitting the dislike button! 😄

    • @jaythornton2837
      @jaythornton2837 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1 month later and just over 13k now. good growth ,i just found him to as was considering a boxster, but definitely sold on it now. great video

  • @anecetohernandez137
    @anecetohernandez137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    we all appreciate all that you do thank you

  • @lordmaximus
    @lordmaximus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I have a 991.2 and I always thought they shared 80% of the parts. Porsche is the king of profit but damn they make great cars.

  • @hellraisingvtec
    @hellraisingvtec 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This channel should be wayyyyy bigger than it is. Your work is great. Thanks for taking the time to make all these awesome videos.

  • @rob7076
    @rob7076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Another great video Jeff. As a Base 981 Cayman owner, who does all my own maintenance, I must agree on the build quality of Porsche, it's very good. Most panel what need to be removed for access come off and go on easily. The structure is also well made. The only disappointment I have had with my Cayman is my Headlining dropped. Removal, recover and replacement completed for less than 10% of the Porsche quote. This is the first maintenance task I have done without your guidance. All other tasked done after watching and following your guidance videos, many thanks. As for the performance of my 2.7 Cayman, it puts a smile on my face each and every time I drive it and can't see that a 911 could do anything more. With 2 stowage compartments we can pack safely for a week away with an esky, coffee machine and pillow and of course clothes!

  • @jdmcarsstudio
    @jdmcarsstudio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I will probably never see all those videos, but I must say it: thank for all your efforts in making so much content about Porsche Cayman!

  • @TheRitualChannel
    @TheRitualChannel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Awesome video Jeff. You're really getting down in to the nitty gritty which few people do. I appreciate all the research and facts that you're presenting to us.

  • @911porschephile5
    @911porschephile5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Well done, love the extensive details, I was geeking out on this! Quite a bit more things changed a bit more when the Boxster/Cayman went to the 718 and the 991.2 came out. (Engine mainly). I own both 911 and a cayman and both are exquisite machines, thank you Porsche for keeping the high standards for all products. Best company in the world (products, marketing, brand image, racing heritage, car culture, etc) One of the good parts of life! Keep up the good work and well detailed videos! 👏

  • @hcooC
    @hcooC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The 986/996 production line revamp in the 90s started this. What you’ve done is amazing and I for one really appreciate your efforts in this. I’m currently buying a 987.2 Boxster S for the 3.4 engine alone, with no roof! Can’t wait to hear the wailing flat 6 again.

    • @RaySpainPlayer
      @RaySpainPlayer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mate, I have 987.2 Cayman S. I will never sell it. If I had room in the garage, I'd get a 987.2 Boxster S in a different colour. You going to love it.

  • @SteveL-RSR
    @SteveL-RSR หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stumbled to your website today. WOW. I really could have used you when I bought my first 911 in 1980. I had to learn the hard way. And like you, my hobby was finding out how the car was built. I will be 70 this year. No P car in my life as I have retired overseas (Ex England, Canada,, Australia (Perth). Your videos will keep me well entertained and educated in my retirement. Thank you. Excellent work.

  • @danby89
    @danby89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for sharing this- what a great deep dive. Genuinely surprised to see just how extensive the commonalities are

  • @gregorypena8603
    @gregorypena8603 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow! This is so informative and very professionally researched. Thank you so very much. I agree with some of the others when they say you should have way more subscribers. I am currently in the market for a Porsche as my keep it car. I am a 54 yr old man and already have a daily driver but want something to cherish and enjoy. This video really helped because I do really like the Boxster and its history but couldn’t pic between the two.

  • @Phantom-pg3tv
    @Phantom-pg3tv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Wonderful! I’m more proud now to be a 981 owner. I love your videos! Keep the embers from burning!

  • @alkoenig8519
    @alkoenig8519 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting information, thank you!! I am a 987.1 & 997.2 owner and was making random similar observations whenI was doing a door repair. You have of course taken it to another level...

  • @PETERFRITZPHOTO
    @PETERFRITZPHOTO หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m so glad this video is finally getting you and your channel the audience it deserves! Good on you, Jeff!

    • @jeffrichardsoncardiy
      @jeffrichardsoncardiy  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks Peter. I'm not sure if you saw my latest video, but the thumbnail photo was one of those suggestions from you car photography vid. Just in case you aren't able to recognise my intent, it was having the camera on the ground. Cheers Jeff

    • @PETERFRITZPHOTO
      @PETERFRITZPHOTO หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffrichardsoncardiy Oh, yes! I started watching it a few days ago, but got pulled away to something else. I must watch the rest. I didn’t register it at the time, but yes, I see the low-angle shot. 👍

  • @emorega1
    @emorega1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant and informative video Jeff. So well set out and researched. Thank you very much for this.

  • @len333p
    @len333p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks Jeff, I wonder from PIWIS what % of the part numbers are the same? Great video and your channel is my number one source for maintenance on my 981S. I trust your work 100%. 👍🏻

  • @288gto7
    @288gto7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel with this video and instantly subbed after seeing the other videos you showed. Keep up the good work!

  • @user-xk5gd7sg9e
    @user-xk5gd7sg9e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow! This is a great analysis and very professional.
    I am now very happy with my Boxster S 2014 and the saving of 90K 🙂
    Great job!

  • @jonathanday2242
    @jonathanday2242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I own neither, yet.I do however own a low mileage 50 year old 914 with modifications and have been blown away by the handling due to the weight distribution of the mid engine.This video has helped me with my hesitation with the boxster.I appreciate the time and effort you put into this video.

  • @jaxphotobuff9252
    @jaxphotobuff9252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video! I have watched and appreciated many of your 981 Boxster tear down/instructional videos and have learned a lot from them. Definitely helped me with several maintenance related tasks for my 2014 981 Boxster S. Thank you for all of the effort and detail you put into the videos!

  • @narnasqueneth
    @narnasqueneth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an incredible forensic analysis- thank you for such a brilliant video

  • @TempzVevo
    @TempzVevo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of time and effort that went into this video is truly amazing. Congrats and great to see someone so passionate about what they do

  • @balisaani
    @balisaani 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew next to nothing about cars before I sat to watch this. Notwithstanding the technical knowledge you possess, you've made this so simple to follow and understand I actually was glued to my screen. Bravo for living your passion and thanks for sharing it across the pond. Goodonya mate!

  • @pkerman2295
    @pkerman2295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Thank you for the time and effort. I enjoyed it thoroughly . Cheers!

  • @charliebailey2359
    @charliebailey2359 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love your work! And seeing how I just bought a 2017 718 Boxster, I love the car even more!

  • @ernesternest815
    @ernesternest815 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Thank you for all that you have contributed to the community. I have certainly learned a lot.

  • @christianpratt
    @christianpratt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Jeff, and nicely presented too.
    I’ve been variously tinkering with my 987.2 Boxster, 997.2 Carrera S and now 981 Boxster GTS over the years, and always been amused by the commonality of parts. Porsche really does know how to engineer a platform. 😃
    (Loving your 981 tear down guides, BTW; they’ve helped me on more than one occasion.)

  • @aslammoola
    @aslammoola 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Probably the best TH-cam auto review I have ever seen. Thanks.

  • @KeokiDude
    @KeokiDude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn, bro, you have me sold on your opinions. Great in depth work and thanks.

  • @jkimbal1
    @jkimbal1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, insightful without getting too technical. I’ve owed a 986 s for 11 years and marvel at its engineering every time i drive it.

  • @CaptDicker
    @CaptDicker หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, thank you for your hard work and drilling down on the details.

  • @user-sn3ux4mu2d
    @user-sn3ux4mu2d หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am planning to get one of those 981 and this video blows away my concern completely. As a DIY maintenance individual, no reason not to get one now. Thank you for the video! Such a great informations.

  • @ycnexu
    @ycnexu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, you're the best. You actually brought knowledge. Also loved the educated guess development cost at the end.

  • @monkeyofspice
    @monkeyofspice หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I have a base 718 cayman and have taken a lot of it apart for modifications. I too noticed the many shared parts between models and years. I love because it is easier to source parts and to upgrade from salvaged cars.

  • @iguana4751
    @iguana4751 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I owned a 987.2 Boxter and always had the same impression about comparing it against the 997. Great video!

  • @marisasob
    @marisasob หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insane detailed video. Thank you so much!

  • @memememine1
    @memememine1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I actually went the other way around. Was looking for a 981 Boxster S but bought a base 991.1 because I found the cabin abit more comfortable with the space behind the driver. I like that they're so similar makes finding parts easier.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I did the same, and honestly looking at the beautiful five gauge setup in the dash makes it completely worthwhile to me.

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That interior and interior build quality is what separates the 2 in that aspect the 911 is the superior product.

    • @edwardrahm5435
      @edwardrahm5435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm thinking about making the same switch from my 981 S to a 991 Cabriolet. My Boxster has the X73 Sport Suspension is great for short trips but I'm getting ready to do much longer trips when preparing trips/routes for car groups on a larger scale than I've been doing. The extra room and weight are appealing for these longer rides with my wife.

    • @JackF99
      @JackF99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@Vgk36how is the build quality different?

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SO basically the quality of the interior materials go sit in both back to back touch door cards and dash .@@JackF99

  • @ericd9628
    @ericd9628 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great info. Confirms what many have been saying. Now we have hard evidence to back it up.

  • @OkulSmoK
    @OkulSmoK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Insane attention to detail, this channel is about to go boom

  • @JP-ne7xj
    @JP-ne7xj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a 2018 991.2 GT3 manual and a 981 Cayman GT4 which were made all manual.
    When i ordered and collected the GT3 my expectations were high. Unfortunately my GT4 was so good that i was disappointed with the 911 GT3. The GT3 shifter wasnt as good and till this day still isn't after being broken in. The gearing in the GT3 is better but not enough for it to make it a better car.
    I still have both cars except last year I sent my Cayman to Deman and bored the engine out to 4.5L and upgraded the gearing. The total price i paid for both cars is now about the same but the driving enjoyment with my GT4 is now noticeably better than any other Porsche I've ever driven. And i have driven many.

    • @agooberss
      @agooberss หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it make sense to have Deman upgrade a Cayman to be at a competitive level to beat a GT4RS? If so, Whay year would you use for this transformation? What upgrades would you suggest and around how much would it cost?

  • @bunyaminbenarda3772
    @bunyaminbenarda3772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Sir for open my eyes. I m speechless. Great Video👍🏼

  • @johnstimson2443
    @johnstimson2443 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your thorough review. Even more glad now that I bought my Boxster S 12 years ago.

  • @FPA4
    @FPA4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 1974 914/4 (originally designed by Porsche to be a Volkswagen) had a significant amount of parts with part numbers starting in 901. The 914/6 originally sold for a very tiny percentage less than the 911 with the same engine, and I was told by a former Porsche dealership employee and PCA member that Porsche made significantly more money on the 911 than the 914, however it was felt that the 914 was important as a gateway to the 911, and Porsche management saw this as an investment. The 912 has even more 901 parts, but I have never owned one. My 911SC turned 40 last year, and even with more than 180k-miles, I currently have no plans to replace it.

  • @TDS981
    @TDS981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video Jeff, you are a true credit to the community and you helped me with a recent interior project.
    It's not entirely surprising, the 981 punches way above its weight, your next challenge is to work out how to flash the 991 dme data onto the 981 3.4 😊. Also worth noting that some parts have unique part numbers but end up being the same part, the glovebox for example has both sets printed on the back.

  • @tobiaskolb9011
    @tobiaskolb9011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    For me, you are the FATHER of 981. ❤ THANK YOU!

  • @gregorymello9476
    @gregorymello9476 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve been waiting for a video like this forever! I’ve been telling 911 owners this for some time and since I’ve recently began “refreshing” my 12’ Cayman S (987.2) and I really began to notice the same exact thing. My hunch started with the basics and just using my eyes. Everything just looked the same such as splash guards, fasteners, underbody linings, interior switch gear, coatings such as stone guard, brakes, suspension components etc. But it wasn’t until I started ordering factory parts that I also went down this rabbit hole and discovered the same thing! I guess while the underpinnings are terribly similar and the quality of parts and build are the same, the 911 will likely still outpace the Cayman in value overtime because of the marketing machine that is Porsche, keeping that model on its pedestal and 911 buyers who desperately need to feel as though their cars are “better” because they paid more. And while it’s not by a long shot, they’ll likely never allow themselves to see it that way. I love 911’s but I also love almost everything Porsche has ever made. I only point this out because I can’t tell you how many times 911 owners I’ve spoken to who say, “yeah, drive this for a while and then step up to a 911” or “a Cayman is a great first Porsche” or “do some track days with this and get a 911”. In every case I’ve said “what for?” My 987.2 is a forever car … if I’m blessed enough, I’ll get a 911 in addition to and daily drive it, at best.

    • @TheSeanMichael
      @TheSeanMichael หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bought my 2000 Boxster S new 24 years ago and still own it today. Last year I added a 911 (997). I love both cars. I will say that the Boxster is to me the more pure/focused sports car, the midengined layout handles better, and I prefer having a rear trunk over useless rear seats. My 3.2L 986 S has the same brakes & transmission as the 3.4L 996 of that era. I'm glad to see more people waking up to the benefits of the Boxster/Cayman these days.

  • @PETERFRITZPHOTO
    @PETERFRITZPHOTO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Fascinating video, Jeff! I drove a 992 Carrera S more than 800 kms down the coast and up the High Country. I loved it, but couldn’t see the value, so I bought a 981 Boxster, and thrashed it along the same 800 km route, and in almost every way, it was as good as or better than the 992. It’s simply a brilliant machine. Your video goes a long way to explaining why.

    • @oscardriver
      @oscardriver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahahhahahha

  • @vmax4575
    @vmax4575 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the informative video and research. I love my 2006 Boxster S is a wonderful driving machine. I purchased it in 2018 with around 43,000 miles on it and now have nearly 90,000. It is a very nice weekend and day trip car. With the “frunk” and trunk it’s is quite useful. I will most likely upgrade to a newer version but probably not a 911. Although, Porsches are amazingly well built vehicles.

  • @bentickner1
    @bentickner1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow Jeff, what an awesome video. well documented and well edited. having many 911's and working on a friends Cayman, i always thought these statements to be true. Its now evident they are facts. The power of marketing.

  • @trzrh
    @trzrh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work and very valuable insights! Thank you Jeff!

  • @MrStlvette
    @MrStlvette 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this great content! Eye opener for sure!

  • @Smileitsgreattobealive
    @Smileitsgreattobealive 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. Excellent video. I’m a 981 owner and being encouraged by the wife to upgrade to a 911. I’m not that keen because I love my 981 and you have now giving me the evidence to use logic against her argument.
    Thanks once again.

    • @jeffrichardsoncardiy
      @jeffrichardsoncardiy  17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Good luck with using logic against her. I wish you well.😃

  • @exploringeuropeafloat
    @exploringeuropeafloat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an outstanding analysis. Well reasoned and logical. Well done

  • @Arnokami
    @Arnokami หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations Jeff for this fascinating video. Being a complete lemon when it come to engineering, I learn so much watching your channel! This got me really excited to upgrade the admission of my Boxster 981 GTS. Would you mind sharing the reference numbers of the parts (throttle, intake manifold and may be other peripherals) required for the update? Again many thanks for your publications and keep on the great work!

  • @user-dr3sc6kl1i
    @user-dr3sc6kl1i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative,I have never seen a video like this , I have a 987.2 and deliberately chose this over the an early 911 and every now and then I think about going the 911 route,but I’m still loving the 987.2 so I’m sticking with it . More of a true 2 seater .

  • @JohnnyFD
    @JohnnyFD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing breakdown! Thanks! I had a 2008 987 Boxster while my housemate had a 911 Turbo. Sitting in them side by side, I always thought how similar they were. This makes me really want to buy a 718 Boxster/Cayman now.

  • @Leowavekid
    @Leowavekid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You…Very very Informative!! You are one dedicated man! 👊🏼

  • @RichardBeds
    @RichardBeds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quite an eye opener!
    I had originally planned to buy a 986 911, but got priced out of the market.
    My current car, and first Porsche, is a 987 Cayman S.
    I had already realised the Cayman shares many parts with its 911 big brother. It was only when I downloaded the parts list from Porsche and examined the part numbers that I realised how many parts are shared by with the 997.
    For me the Cayman is the perfect package. It is a versatile load carrier as well as being really fun to drive, and predictable when pushed hard.

  • @tnmcru2153
    @tnmcru2153 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, lot of work there to document this. Thanks for you effort.

  • @keyzer2011
    @keyzer2011 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You earned a sub from this video. A whole lot of things started to make sense after watching this. I STILL want a 991.1 911 even after watching this but that’s because it’s always been my poster car. Thanks for all your effort to make these videos ❤

  • @johncito4313
    @johncito4313 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating ! This is a great example of what TH-cam is all about. THANK YOU for this excellent effort that will be deeply appreciated by many people.

  • @randybrown6709
    @randybrown6709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice tandem! I have a 2016 Cayman S and a 2003 E46 330i, both Red/Black leather 6-speeds. Love all of your very informative videos!

    • @jeffrichardsoncardiy
      @jeffrichardsoncardiy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like your style. I can't part with the old girl as it holds a dear place in my heart. Both convertibles but completely different cars. I enjoy both of them.

  • @ac24z
    @ac24z หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 981 Boxster S, so I'm in the smiling corner😅. More importantly: Thank you so much for these videos! As you say, the Boxster doesn't break very often, so I only actually needed one of your videos once when I had to replace my AUX-cable but they're fantastically useful and I'm sure I'll get a chance to use one again.

  • @sandman2b
    @sandman2b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting and I appreciate you included the 718, which seems to be the forgotten child at times. I love my 718 Cayman S.

  • @TheThrottleCable
    @TheThrottleCable 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the most interesting Porsche videos I’ve seen on TH-cam. Congrats on a fantastic piece of film 👏

  • @1274anil
    @1274anil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When i started working on my 987.2 that was the first thing i noticed was how much parts shared with the 997 even the base carrera has the exact same brake setup. I think that if you cn afford the maintenance of a boxster/cayman you could afford a 911 if the initial outlay wasnt as high. Great content and 100% agree.

  • @franklassmann
    @franklassmann หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am currently a Boxster 987 owner and had always the same suspicion. You proofed it. Thanks. Good video. Adding my opinion: I like that Porsche is doing it like that, gives me more confidence in Boxster and Cayman platform..I am a fan of it due to middle motor concept and second rear trunk. Greetings from 🇩🇪

  • @patryan8065
    @patryan8065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic job of doing a forensic autopsy on the Boxster/Cayman and the 911. I looked at a 2015 Carrera base and a 2015 base Cayman and I noticed the many similarities as you outlined. . I ended up buying a fairly loaded low mileage CPO base Cayman for almost exactly half the cost of the non CPO Carrera. Easy decision. My Cayman gets mistaken for a 911 by most non car enthusiasts and it has been absolutey wonderful...the best quality car I've ever owned.

  • @davidreville7211
    @davidreville7211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Really interesting video… As a 981 owner (my first Porsche), I really fancied a 911 - but, it didn’t look as nice as a soft top, as my Boxster S does. Just my opinion, also the rear seats are a waste of time 😂
    Thank you, this was a good watch - I have subscribed and will probably view your back catalogue, just as a learning opportunity 👍🏼

    • @donkeyshot8472
      @donkeyshot8472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      contrary to the 911, the boxster was designed from scratch as a soft top...and it shows. besides, as a porsche owner, where else could you possibly
      want the engine to be than right behind your back?

  • @Skylinef22
    @Skylinef22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So cool to have this breakdown. We need some awesome videos on the cayenne! I have a ‘10 Cayenne GTS. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @user-lo1dk7ok4f
    @user-lo1dk7ok4f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative video, cant get over how similar both cars are.

  • @steveuzelac1781
    @steveuzelac1781 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this thorough research.
    My eyes are wide open next time l walk into a Porsche dealership.

  • @benbustama3430
    @benbustama3430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, first time viewer. Well done presentation, mate. Mad props & respect to you! P-car FTW! Cheers mate.

  • @quintongrand
    @quintongrand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dope video bruh. u got me curious now the differences between 991 carrera vs 991 gt3/ gt2 etc. hope ya channel blow up fam 💯 great content

  • @AfonsoBucco
    @AfonsoBucco หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love when an aftermarket part brings part number not for one, but for various cars which it fits in.
    so in the same part, you have, number of part branch, and different car branches. It makes life pretty easier. And logistic becomes more efficient.

  • @TheSeanMichael
    @TheSeanMichael หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I own both a Boxster S (986) and a 911 (997). I've owned the Boxster for 24 years. I remember reading that even a 996 TURBO (Mezger engine and all) only cost Porsche about $4000 more to build than a 2.5L Boxster - yet they charged triple the price!

  • @PeterJUren
    @PeterJUren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating! Thanks Jeff

  • @ricksmith6700
    @ricksmith6700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the deep dive. Have driven both a 981 Boxter GTS (driving holiday in Europe) and a 991 C2S (my car). Both PDK, both great driving cars and both more capable on the road than the I am on the controls! (a feature I don't mind admitting to). I found the Boxster so perfectly balanced and very much "point it where you want to go and it goes there" type experience. Whereas the 911 has, not surprisingly, a more pitch forward/squat backward dynamic on the road. My wife much prefers the Boxster characteristics and I enjoy the 911's character. Those looking into a Porsche sports car should definitely try out both options to find what they like. Then go out and drive them every chance they get :)

  • @sprig6043
    @sprig6043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The equivalent of buying a pair of NikeTrainers. Different but essentially the same offering from manufacturer. Really well out together vid and research. Really enjoyed. 🎉

  • @jonathanveit7151
    @jonathanveit7151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing analysis! Thanks from the happy owner of a 987S!

  • @D0wNhiLL
    @D0wNhiLL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your content is incredible value. I subscribed and writing this comment to boost your statistics a bit.

  • @NateTheMeh
    @NateTheMeh 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Incredible stuff!

  • @faurebasson3722
    @faurebasson3722 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating video!

  • @silversleeper484
    @silversleeper484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @jeff Dude this was a very eye opening 911-Boxter Video. AMAZING JOB

  • @PleeseCallMeDan
    @PleeseCallMeDan หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy’s channel is a goldmine! Thanks almighty TH-cam algorithm!

  • @bonose12
    @bonose12 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OUTSTANDING video!

  • @JJL206
    @JJL206 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant stuff, Jeff…!

  • @majidsiddiqui2906
    @majidsiddiqui2906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great video. I have been weighing up these models myself.

  • @wwilliams1358
    @wwilliams1358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ☹Now you tell me...😁Thank you for the info, always good to know inside info and what is really under the skin. At least my 991 is a 2012 MY, but I probably would have paid less for the same year 981. Thanks again for sharing your information with the P Car public.