@@BenCollinsDrives holy cow - guy’s it’s really him, some say he’s wanted by the CIA, and sleeps upside down like a bat - drivetribe invite your boy out for the love of the sweet baby jeezus
@@clausseier True! But he lasted only a few episodes whereas Ben was on for many seasons so I still think of Ben as the OG! Maybe GOAT STIG is a better title?
Agree 100pc. Ben is very modest. No question the CEO was super quick especially for his first time at Thruxton but Ben didn't revel in his time. Humility is exactly the right word.
The difference between the 997 and the 992 was mind blowing, nearly 10.5 seconds on a roughly minute and a half lap. I think we definitely need more of these comparos of 10-20 year old cars vs their modern counter parts. Heck, you could even run an NC vs ND Miata, would probably be interesting, or M5's, Boxters, WRX's, Audi S3/4. This was good stuff.
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Nick that was a truly mega drive. Obviously not your first time on a race track, but the first time on this track and the pressure of going up against the Stig himself. Well done sir.
Years ago my first Turbo experience was in a 997 Turbo. Was so impressed by power and ceramic brakes. It wasn’t a sportscar. It felt like a hypercar. It blew my mind. Especially the braking. Recently drove the 992 Turbo on German autobahn. So easy to drive. And so fast. Mindblowing. And the best thing: all German cars make room for you on the left lane! So decent. So nice. As if they have learned that at birth: when Turbo is coming. We make some room. German society should be proud of what they are capable to build!
I'm kinda blown away by the difference, how fast Nick was, and Ben's lap in the new car. As others have mentioned, some discussion of tires would be interesting as well. They've improved as much as the cars.
As an owner of a 997.1T (tip) and 991.2TS, there is no doubt a massive diff in performance in generations. However, I suspect a significant part of the lap time diff (2 sec?) is attributable to stick v PDK in this comparo.
I think you're completely right, however it is a pretty fast circuit so there's definitely not as much time lost to gear shifts as there would be for a tighter circuit.
997 will forever be the best looking 911 for me. So sleek yet so tight. Gotta love those smaller nimble cars. The newer car performance is unmatchable but still the older one has that car "soul" thing flowing from it.
As much as you have to enjoy the comparison between two great cars a decade apart, its the personalities of the three of you in this video that was so enjoyable. Do more please. Maybe going even further back with a old classic and a modern day basic hatchback.
One of the best videos I have seen on cars on you tube. Very interesting and it was great not to know the numbers until the end. The stig--what a gentlemen and of course what talent. He really showed what the car could do. And the amateur driver certainly can hold his head up. There is always an almost quantum leap to the pros but he really did well and was a very engaging person. Terrific content in every way!
On a race circuit tyres can make a big difference to lap times. Would be interesting to see the same car compared with different tyres but the same driver.
Nick is definitely on the upper end of amateur, but definitely made it more interesting. Any "regular joe" or "I've done a few track days" level driver would've been nowhere irrespective of equipment.
Really enjoyed this video but I’d like to wave the flag for the 997. To be precise it was a 992.2 Turbo S PDK vs 997.2 Turbo manual. The 997.2 Turbo S has over 30bhp more than the Turbo, and also has more torque. I couldn’t quite tell, but I suspect the 992 did a launch-controlled start whereas the manual Turbo doesn’t have this. I’m not saying that it would be neck-and-neck, but perhaps the gap between the two wouldn’t have been so dramatic if the 997 was similarly spec’d to the 992. Or perhaps I’m just defending my own 997.2 Turbo S PDK 🤣
This is some of the best content you guys have put out. Very cool to have the founder of GoPro on, he can wheel a car 😎 you can’t beat watching good drivers lap a really good car around a fast circuit 💯🔥😎❤️❤️❤️❤️ more content like this please 🙏
Someone took a 992 Turbo S, put safety/timing/radio equipment in it, and then went and place 2nd OVERALL at Pikes Peak Hillclimb with an essentially “stock” car. The Turbo S is an absolutely mind-bending amount of performance that someone can just go write a check for.
Great video and just goes to show how quickly cars are improving. It would be great to see what a truly amateur driver could do when there is such a disparity with the performance of the car.
vintage Porsche 911 RUF vs vintage porsche 911 ev swap : 1969 Mustang Mach 1 vs 2023 Mustang Mach 1 : Jaguar XKR manual vs Jaguar XKR auto I've been waiting for someone to do these types of vintage vs modern/auto vs manual comparisons. You've made my day! Thank you and well done!
Please have Ben do a lap in the same track with a 992 GT3. It would be awesome to see the difference between the GT3 and Turbo S with Ben behind the wheel.
Thank goodness for that. I was starting to get worried, but we should never doubt Mr Ben Colins/The Stig. And my goodness, his time in the 992 was so much faster than I think any of us expected. Ben is still the man, and forever more will be.
I could never beat The Stig, some say he’s wanted by the CIA, and that he sleeps upside down like a Bat, but I sure as hell would love to try. It's great seeing Ben on DriveTribe. I've been following his channel as well. What would I like to see? More rally, especially since supercars are getting in the dirt now with things like the Sterrato. Would it beat an RS200?
This series is amazing. Having an old model compete with a newer model of the same car line. More of these please! Please do so with other big car brands like Ferrari. Just to see how technology have evolved in just 10 years. Thats amazing! Love it!
OK - the best comparison will be tyres. Get a set of P-Zero Trofero vs Corsa on identical cars or PS4 vs Cup tyres. This will show a HUGE difference. A lot of the advances in lap time are from the huge leap in tyre tech
This was a great versus, but the PDK and manual does make a difference. That said, Ben is a phenomenal driver clearly. I think 90% of the guys who buy a new Turbo S are in way over their head with this amount of power, and driving one on the street is almost impossible without taking some crazy risks of getting after it and crashing. crazy as the 992 is, I’d take the 997 turbo with either a manual or PDK over the 992, even though it’s slightly dated it’s such a great looking car. The 992 is meh, I prefer the more analogue 997, it oozes class and looks more 911 than the newer body style to me….
If they'd put some little old lady in it, then it would have either been too easy to beat or there would be a risk of wrecking the car. Also not knowing the track makes a difference.
I worked for a man who owned a 2010 Turbo S. He used to let me take it out when running errands for him and such. He had connections at the local airport (small town) and we'd take that and his M3 out to the runways and open them up. That was when I knew I would own a Turbo S someday.
Would be nice to show tires on these cars. Just switching to modern sport compound gives you like 4 seconds on a two minute lap, but I assume Ben has something appropriate on his machine.
Yes. Some better tyres and maybe some upgraded dampers would probably cut the deficit in half. But the 992 would still be about 5 seconds quicker. Pretty incredible.
That was a genuinely entertaining video and comparison...well done! I'll admit it would be pretty incredible to see Ben go up against other top pros, and the thought of someone like Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso, or of course Max Verstappen giving him a run would be seriously entertaining to watch.
It would be awesome to see a few old school rally cars matched up against each other around that track...maybe even an old school group b VS a modern car. Love Ben Collins! Down to earth and humble gentleman. Awesome video!
Exactly what I was thinking, I was expecting one of the first models. No way a real amateur would beat the Stig, there's not that huge of a performance gap with only a few generations gap
@@pbe6965a first model 911 would be unfair. these cars arent very fast (for todays standards), remember only ~150hp vs 500+. yes the new one is heavier but the hp advantage is insane
test drove the new 992 turbo recently. its obviously fast but soft and still has some lag. Definitely more of an old mans, dare I say borderline more of a luxury car than a supercar/sportscar.... Was very happy to hop back into my 997 turbo manual. With a 1k tune, it feels near as makes no difference as fast as the 992 but much more raw and the right size.
Watching Ben drive on a track like this brings back memories of every Sunday at 8pm. I think even if i didn't see, it was a DriveTribe video and just saw Ben driving the 992 without knowing who it was driving... I think i'd guess it was him from the driving style and presence he gives on track
sick to see how GoPro's founder is such a racer! i recently found an old Hero3+ black and started to record pov videos myself with it, guess it goes to show how versatile the cameras are (even if they do get a bit toasty lol) great race tbh, love to see the collab content
Interesting, but I can't help thinking, for those of us that know Thruxton reasonably well, that it's a shame not to have seen an actual onboard lap of each driver, to better understand where each car is faster or slower. Most of Ben's lap footage was following a camera car and definitely not on a hot lap.
Agreed, even as someone who has no idea about the track layout. There's time for fancy camera work during the warmup I guess, but for the hot lap a simpler edit would work better. It was really hard to see the driving style/approach.
Dream format - keep this coming - it's the star in a car + marque comparison, cracking!! If you can get Thruxton again we can have a leaderboard to compare too!
McLaren vs McLaren Please. Perhaps F1 vs 756LT? This is a great video. None of the usual drama, hype and disingenuous BS. Yours is to the point and just what I like to see. Thanks
You have to continue with this series. Shocking is what it was... You can try some golf GTIs next...or m5s... Of course the pinnacle would be McL F1 vs GMA T.50
I would like to see how a modern day sports bike performs in comparison, something like a Triumph 765RS, nothing too mental (no 1000cc missiles). Great seeing a true Maestro like Ben Collins doing his thing!
What a great video you made watching real awesome people put their all into the race. Fantastic frankly, greats thanks and hats off your the racers for sure!
You know this is great to see. I actually think it would be good to see a side by side comparison of something ford based. Old school Vs new school. For example say the iconic 08 Focus RS vs the New focus RS, two major variations in technology to compare how far development has really come.
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Great Video. The Founder of GoPro somehow looks exactly as you would imagin
I am fortunate to own a 997.2 Turbo S, I had test drive in new 992 Turbo, the difference in accelerating from standing start and grip is exceptional, however my 2011 which I purchased four yrs ago was subject to an offer from a dealership that would have given me £8k more than I paid..Also the 997 has perfect amount of power for U.K. roads, but most important to me was the width, the 992 felt almost as wide as my Wife’s Range Rover and rather alarming on a B Road ..and obviously £180K with Depreciation over three years...😢😢
I still own a 2010 997.2 C4S Cab- 385 hp. 96K miles, so I drive it. It's still a blast. Bought it new in 2010. I remember the 500 HP turbos for sale at the time- the cost point was just too high. Would love to experience 650 HP. Have run some laps in a McClaren 570S and a GT3. I wish they would have showed some stats while driving in this video- no speeds were mentioned, G-force... It would have been nice to see how much faster the 650 HP went on both straights and corners...
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Some proper racing in my FAVORITE cars!?
Thank you so much for this video!
Ego's aside the real question is just how much is over a decades worth of Porsche development actually worth in lap time. Great video.
Be good to see Hammond against the stig 👀
Wish they could find a way to hold a shot fir more than 1 sec in this vid. Too many angle changes and too fast
@@gaycha6589They probably had to keep restarting the GoPros. 😂
Just kidding... Mostly. I don't know if the 12 has the same problems.
Y'all gotta get Rubens Barrichello or Vettel to go head-to-head against Ben for a rematch since they were the first to beat him as the Stig
This would be awesome. Drivetribe should definitely push to try and get that sorted.
GAME ON
@@BenCollinsDrives holy cow - guy’s it’s really him, some say he’s wanted by the CIA, and sleeps upside down like a bat - drivetribe invite your boy out for the love of the sweet baby jeezus
@@BenCollinsDrives Yes please 😈
@@BenCollinsDrivesi would contribute money or somwthing to make this happen
Can't express how much joy it brings me to see Ben Collins, Mr. OG STIG himself, as a regular recurring co-host on these episodes!
Not really OG - there was a Stig before him - Black Stig.
But he does feel like "The real Stig". 👌
Can see perry shrugging his shoulders somewhere....
but i agree ben deserves to own the title
@@clausseier True! But he lasted only a few episodes whereas Ben was on for many seasons so I still think of Ben as the OG! Maybe GOAT STIG is a better title?
@@360Pros agreed 👍
These episodes are the true spiritual successor to the old Top Gear. Love it.
Drivier is comedy! @@sg-yq8pm
Not really though
This and AutoAlex! This is more serious and Autoalex is for watching some blokes fooling around.
Thanks!
@@HJ-vs7lfauto Alex and cartrek. If you combined those, you have TG/ GT.
Huge respect to Stig for his humility.
humility LOL he changed it so he could win against this guy who'd not seen the circuit before!
Nice guy...and Turbo S is insane
🤣 I read your comment before the video and thought Ben must have lost... I'm not sure you know what humility means!
That's spot on lol @@superderv
Agree 100pc. Ben is very modest. No question the CEO was super quick especially for his first time at Thruxton but Ben didn't revel in his time. Humility is exactly the right word.
Ben Collins is genuinely one of the nicest, humblest, people on the internet.
Also the arch nemesis to Jimmy Broadbent.
The difference between the 997 and the 992 was mind blowing, nearly 10.5 seconds on a roughly minute and a half lap. I think we definitely need more of these comparos of 10-20 year old cars vs their modern counter parts. Heck, you could even run an NC vs ND Miata, would probably be interesting, or M5's, Boxters, WRX's, Audi S3/4. This was good stuff.
The 997 was a regular turbo with stick. The 997.2 turbo s had pdk and more power. But yeah still absolutely mental the progress they made in 13 years.
the 997.2 with the pdk would be 2-3 seconds off at most
The s has suspension upgrades
They shouid used fhe 997.2 turbo s and not the turbo. Compare an S with an S
Yeah and both on the same or comparable tires …
Giving The Stig a run for his money 😉
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Yeah, that was an impressive time. “Amateur” my a** 😂
Nick that was a truly mega drive. Obviously not your first time on a race track, but the first time on this track and the pressure of going up against the Stig himself. Well done sir.
What a fantastic video, would definitely love to see more of this variety. Think Ben vs Barrichello revenge lap would be the ultimate content.
I can’t comprehend the difference in time😲 What a piece of machinery 👍
Years ago my first Turbo experience was in a 997 Turbo. Was so impressed by power and ceramic brakes. It wasn’t a sportscar. It felt like a hypercar. It blew my mind. Especially the braking.
Recently drove the 992 Turbo on German autobahn. So easy to drive. And so fast. Mindblowing. And the best thing: all German cars make room for you on the left lane! So decent. So nice. As if they have learned that at birth: when Turbo is coming. We make some room. German society should be proud of what they are capable to build!
This was awesome, Nick is a quick driver. The content on Drivetribe lately has been epic.
One of the best videos you’ve done in a while. Love the challenges of drivers vs machines. More Stig and guests please.
Thanks 👌
I'm kinda blown away by the difference, how fast Nick was, and Ben's lap in the new car. As others have mentioned, some discussion of tires would be interesting as well. They've improved as much as the cars.
The results are pretty jaw dropping, I expected everything to be...closer.
I doubt the 997 was on original N rated tyres, it would be on a later generation
As an owner of a 997.1T (tip) and 991.2TS, there is no doubt a massive diff in performance in generations. However, I suspect a significant part of the lap time diff (2 sec?) is attributable to stick v PDK in this comparo.
I think you're completely right, however it is a pretty fast circuit so there's definitely not as much time lost to gear shifts as there would be for a tighter circuit.
I can’t see a pdk giving Ben more than a couple of sec in one lap. 13yrs of development on torque vectoring software I could see giving that result
Thruxton is a power circuit. 992 has 25% more power than 997. Modern tyres too
Not only is the difference, a manual gearbox against a PDK! Ben's 997.2 is a turbo as opposed to the 997.2 turbo s of the day!
Using Ben's two lap times it's almost a one second per year difference between the two models. Pretty amazing.
997 will forever be the best looking 911 for me. So sleek yet so tight. Gotta love those smaller nimble cars. The newer car performance is unmatchable but still the older one has that car "soul" thing flowing from it.
Is 2010 now considered to be "back in the day"?
I'm 44 and I now feel really old! 😟
I'm 40 and I got the "yeah that old guy there" the other day. Gettin ruff out there. I need bifocals
yeah well around then was the death of hydraulic power steering. 997 was the last one to have it
@@mking9446II am 40, with a 997 👴🏼
@@bastee2727 lucky fucker....I'm rolling a 2017 xse camry
Im only 19 and a 2010 car is still modern to me.
As much as you have to enjoy the comparison between two great cars a decade apart, its the personalities of the three of you in this video that was so enjoyable. Do more please. Maybe going even further back with a old classic and a modern day basic hatchback.
Boyz .. we need more Ben vs ???? In any car - totally worth watching!!! Do NOT Disappoint
Abit like the hoonigan series but a track time not a drag time. Would be interesting to see.
One of the best videos I have seen on cars on you tube. Very interesting and it was great not to know the numbers until the end. The stig--what a gentlemen and of course what talent. He really showed what the car could do. And the amateur driver certainly can hold his head up. There is always an almost quantum leap to the pros but he really did well and was a very engaging person. Terrific content in every way!
On a race circuit tyres can make a big difference to lap times. Would be interesting to see the same car compared with different tyres but the same driver.
Strongly agreed. So few of these comparos state what the rubber spec is, and it can make seconds per minute of difference.
Ben is the STIG. He is a uk Hero to us all and I never doubt him for a sec. Well done Ben.. 👍👍👍
Nick is definitely on the upper end of amateur, but definitely made it more interesting. Any "regular joe" or "I've done a few track days" level driver would've been nowhere irrespective of equipment.
Mate this video was superb I really enjoyed it.
We're glad you enjoyed it!
More Stig content please, it'll never ever get old!!!
Ben is an absolute gentleman, an amazing talent yet so humble, fair play to him.
To me, 997 is the best contemporary 911. The 991 and especially the 992 are just too big.
Really enjoyed this video but I’d like to wave the flag for the 997.
To be precise it was a 992.2 Turbo S PDK vs 997.2 Turbo manual.
The 997.2 Turbo S has over 30bhp more than the Turbo, and also has more torque.
I couldn’t quite tell, but I suspect the 992 did a launch-controlled start whereas the manual Turbo doesn’t have this.
I’m not saying that it would be neck-and-neck, but perhaps the gap between the two wouldn’t have been so dramatic if the 997 was similarly spec’d to the 992.
Or perhaps I’m just defending my own 997.2 Turbo S PDK 🤣
Absolutely agree. I own base 991.2 tt pdk and it beats 992 gts manual on straight also on track because of pdk shifting speed is mental :D
Well done Ben and obviously the stunning 911.
This is some of the best content you guys have put out. Very cool to have the founder of GoPro on, he can wheel a car 😎 you can’t beat watching good drivers lap a really good car around a fast circuit 💯🔥😎❤️❤️❤️❤️ more content like this please 🙏
Someone took a 992 Turbo S, put safety/timing/radio equipment in it, and then went and place 2nd OVERALL at Pikes Peak Hillclimb with an essentially “stock” car. The Turbo S is an absolutely mind-bending amount of performance that someone can just go write a check for.
A really interesting matchup would be some Group B rally cars from the 80ties. Or any modern car vs the Group B Audi Quatro.
Great video and just goes to show how quickly cars are improving. It would be great to see what a truly amateur driver could do when there is such a disparity with the performance of the car.
Fair play to Nick. Happy to see Ben perform so well. All is good. More of this format please ❤
Some driving from both guys! Wow,what a car! 👏
vintage Porsche 911 RUF vs vintage porsche 911 ev swap : 1969 Mustang Mach 1 vs 2023 Mustang Mach 1 : Jaguar XKR manual vs Jaguar XKR auto
I've been waiting for someone to do these types of vintage vs modern/auto vs manual comparisons. You've made my day! Thank you and well done!
Please have Ben do a lap in the same track with a 992 GT3. It would be awesome to see the difference between the GT3 and Turbo S with Ben behind the wheel.
Yes, with the same tyres.
And flying laps not standing start.
Thank goodness for that. I was starting to get worried, but we should never doubt Mr Ben Colins/The Stig. And my goodness, his time in the 992 was so much faster than I think any of us expected. Ben is still the man, and forever more will be.
I could never beat The Stig, some say he’s wanted by the CIA, and that he sleeps upside down like a Bat, but I sure as hell would love to try.
It's great seeing Ben on DriveTribe. I've been following his channel as well.
What would I like to see? More rally, especially since supercars are getting in the dirt now with things like the Sterrato. Would it beat an RS200?
More of this please. Feels like the good old days ❤
Drive Tribe is becoming more like The Grand Tour / Too Gear! I’m Loving It!!! Cheers🎉
This series is amazing. Having an old model compete with a newer model of the same car line. More of these please! Please do so with other big car brands like Ferrari. Just to see how technology have evolved in just 10 years. Thats amazing! Love it!
The time difference is mental. I thought the 997 was a fast car.
It is a fast car. Things just moved forward in the last decade
It is. But the newer one is so much easier.
It is a fast car….
Great video. Amazing 11 seconds… that is more than 10% faster overall. Super interesting to see. Thanks guys!
I remember when Richard drove the convertible version of this on Top gear fell in love with the turbo S ever since
It's very surprising that after all these years, GoPro hasn't developed a less boxy camera.
The 992 is such a nice machine 👌
I love the 992 shape, lots of the styling aspects pay homage to some of the older models
OK - the best comparison will be tyres. Get a set of P-Zero Trofero vs Corsa on identical cars or PS4 vs Cup tyres. This will show a HUGE difference. A lot of the advances in lap time are from the huge leap in tyre tech
Curious what tires both cars were running
P7 Zeros on 992, PS4S on 997
This was a great versus, but the PDK and manual does make a difference. That said, Ben is a phenomenal driver clearly. I think 90% of the guys who buy a new Turbo S are in way over their head with this amount of power, and driving one on the street is almost impossible without taking some crazy risks of getting after it and crashing. crazy as the 992 is, I’d take the 997 turbo with either a manual or PDK over the 992, even though it’s slightly dated it’s such a great looking car. The 992 is meh, I prefer the more analogue 997, it oozes class and looks more 911 than the newer body style to me….
Clearly not an amateur driver.
He's clearly a racing driver though. 😂
If they'd put some little old lady in it, then it would have either been too easy to beat or there would be a risk of wrecking the car. Also not knowing the track makes a difference.
@@clumsygarage1578 pull someone trustworthy off the crew and have them put in a few laps.
@@matthewkuhl79 amateur means they don’t have experience literally being a professional F3 racing driver lol.
Do you realize some amateur drivers race professionally?
Great video - gets right to the driving and super entertaining. I have a 911 myself but these newer Turbo's are on another planet.
Ben shouldn't be worried about losing his job. DT would drop Mike in a heartbeat if it came to Stig or Mike
Agreed!
Why even go there with that statement? Mike and the DT teams enthusiasm keep the channel going.
I worked for a man who owned a 2010 Turbo S. He used to let me take it out when running errands for him and such. He had connections at the local airport (small town) and we'd take that and his M3 out to the runways and open them up. That was when I knew I would own a Turbo S someday.
Would be nice to show tires on these cars. Just switching to modern sport compound gives you like 4 seconds on a two minute lap, but I assume Ben has something appropriate on his machine.
Yes. Some better tyres and maybe some upgraded dampers would probably cut the deficit in half. But the 992 would still be about 5 seconds quicker. Pretty incredible.
I'd still much prefer the 997 over the 992 because its a manual transmission. Thanks.
I loved this video! Really fun. Just sadly lacking in the engine sound dept. Surely a remote mic would augment the footage nicely
A race around track for ALL SERIES of the Mx5!! Happy to be your amateur for the RF and stck Ben in the Mk1
Ben is the MAN!
He sure can drive💪
That was a genuinely entertaining video and comparison...well done! I'll admit it would be pretty incredible to see Ben go up against other top pros, and the thought of someone like Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso, or of course Max Verstappen giving him a run would be seriously entertaining to watch.
we need more of Nick
It would be awesome to see a few old school rally cars matched up against each other around that track...maybe even an old school group b VS a modern car. Love Ben Collins! Down to earth and humble gentleman. Awesome video!
Staggering difference in lap times with the same driver!
I'd love to see Ben's lap times in a 996 Turbo and 991.1 Turbo S just to see the progression.
So not an amateur driver at all.
He doesn't do it for money, so he's an amateur. You don't have to be useless to be an amateur.
@@harryspeakup8452 So you'd call Mike Tyson an amateur boxer. Okay, Willful stupidity at its finest.
That 992 spec is beautiful, from exterior colour to interior just beautiful.
Pointless then. When his not an amateur
Amateur = non-professional
He is literally an amateur
That's an outrageous jump in lap times (of Ben's) between the two cars!
That's not an old 911 😂
That's just the previous 911.
Exactly what I was thinking, I was expecting one of the first models.
No way a real amateur would beat the Stig, there's not that huge of a performance gap with only a few generations gap
previous was 991.2, then 991.1, then 997.2,then the 997.1.
@@pbe6965a first model 911 would be unfair. these cars arent very fast (for todays standards), remember only ~150hp vs 500+. yes the new one is heavier but the hp advantage is insane
two gens ago
@@SimonBauer7 only 130 hp on the very first 911
A good friend of mine bought a 992 Turbo S Convertible back in April. That car is an absolute monster. Words cannot describe launching a 992.
Great video! Crazy to see the difference in lap times between the 997 and 992. For the next one 430 Scuderia vs. 488 Pista!
That's an UNREAL difference. I never would have guessed even half of that. Unbelievable progress
Would be interesting to see the dynamics with Ben as Ben with the OG.
test drove the new 992 turbo recently. its obviously fast but soft and still has some lag. Definitely more of an old mans, dare I say borderline more of a luxury car than a supercar/sportscar.... Was very happy to hop back into my 997 turbo manual. With a 1k tune, it feels near as makes no difference as fast as the 992 but much more raw and the right size.
Watching Ben drive on a track like this brings back memories of every Sunday at 8pm.
I think even if i didn't see, it was a DriveTribe video and just saw Ben driving the 992 without knowing who it was driving... I think i'd guess it was him from the driving style and presence he gives on track
sick to see how GoPro's founder is such a racer! i recently found an old Hero3+ black and started to record pov videos myself with it, guess it goes to show how versatile the cameras are (even if they do get a bit toasty lol)
great race tbh, love to see the collab content
I can’t believe you played music over the stig’s lap. That is absolutely criminal ! !
Bloody hell... I wasn't surprised about the winner in the same car, but that difference was insane.
I think its really cool that I finally get to see the stig on screen. He's amazing as an entertainer!
Interesting, but I can't help thinking, for those of us that know Thruxton reasonably well, that it's a shame not to have seen an actual onboard lap of each driver, to better understand where each car is faster or slower. Most of Ben's lap footage was following a camera car and definitely not on a hot lap.
Agreed, even as someone who has no idea about the track layout. There's time for fancy camera work during the warmup I guess, but for the hot lap a simpler edit would work better. It was really hard to see the driving style/approach.
Dream format - keep this coming - it's the star in a car + marque comparison, cracking!! If you can get Thruxton again we can have a leaderboard to compare too!
These are better than car wow drag races I dare say!
I’d love to see generations of AMG variants, like W202 C43 vs W/C 205 or R129 vs R230.
McLaren vs McLaren Please. Perhaps F1 vs 756LT? This is a great video. None of the usual drama, hype and disingenuous BS. Yours is to the point and just what I like to see. Thanks
Nice vid - the increased stiffness of the 992 was very obvious - ballistic machines - love it
Would love to see the 911 Turbo S VS the SF90 Stradale!
Holy crap that is quick, great to see Ben on drivetribe
Riveting watch. Congrats to Ben on his probable new standing start lap record. How about a 997 manual vs. 997 Tiptronic vs. later 997 PDK?
You have to continue with this series. Shocking is what it was... You can try some golf GTIs next...or m5s... Of course the pinnacle would be McL F1 vs GMA T.50
I would like to see how a modern day sports bike performs in comparison, something like a Triumph 765RS, nothing too mental (no 1000cc missiles). Great seeing a true Maestro like Ben Collins doing his thing!
What a great video you made watching real awesome people put their all into the race. Fantastic frankly, greats thanks and hats off your the racers for sure!
Of all the sponsors you’ve had this was the most natural of matches
That was a great segment. I would like more in-car video with just engine please even a few moments.
It would be a pleasure to see a pov comparison of the drives.
For Nick's first time on the track that was a blistering performance. But, Stiggy Ben's knowledge of the track and experience showed out big time.
You know this is great to see. I actually think it would be good to see a side by side comparison of something ford based. Old school Vs new school. For example say the iconic 08 Focus RS vs the New focus RS, two major variations in technology to compare how far development has really come.
Great Video. The Founder of GoPro somehow looks exactly as you would imagin
I am fortunate to own a 997.2 Turbo S, I had test drive in new 992 Turbo, the difference in accelerating from standing start and grip is exceptional, however my 2011 which I purchased four yrs ago was subject to an offer from a dealership that would have given me £8k more than I paid..Also the 997 has perfect amount of power for U.K. roads, but most important to me was the width, the 992 felt almost as wide as my Wife’s Range Rover and rather alarming on a B Road ..and obviously £180K with Depreciation over three years...😢😢
911s depreciate? Most owners don't think so!
I still own a 2010 997.2 C4S Cab- 385 hp. 96K miles, so I drive it. It's still a blast. Bought it new in 2010. I remember the 500 HP turbos for sale at the time- the cost point was just too high. Would love to experience 650 HP. Have run some laps in a McClaren 570S and a GT3. I wish they would have showed some stats while driving in this video- no speeds were mentioned, G-force... It would have been nice to see how much faster the 650 HP went on both straights and corners...
2:10 can we just appreciate how good that dap was
I’d like to see a classic alpine A110 vs a current one. Any classic vs modern would be fun but that one in particular would be amazing.