Porsche Cayman Generations (987,981,718) compared - Which is best? | Everyday Driver TV S4

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  • The three generations of the mid-engined Porsche Cayman are often overlooked because of the legendary 911, but they offer better prices and a more balanced chassis. Join Todd and Paul as they drive the 987 Cayman R, 981 Cayman GTS, and 718 Cayman GTS, tracing the good and bad changes along the way.
    00:00 - 0:50 Intro
    0:50 - 4:53 Styling
    4:53 - 11:42 Performance
    11:42 - 16:15 Handling
    16:15 - Conclusions
    This episode from Season 4 first Premiered on MotorTrend cable channel in February of 2019.
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  • @dadhats
    @dadhats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    stop telling people that the 718 isnt a bad car!! I want to pick up a used one thats depreciated as hell :))

    • @senecamcmillian
      @senecamcmillian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂

    • @uno1industries
      @uno1industries 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Seriously 😭 My first choice RS3s are already crazy expensive. Let’s keep the 718 affordable.

    • @NathanNicholson-mh1zj
      @NathanNicholson-mh1zj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SAME

    • @adamjohari
      @adamjohari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Waiting for it to depreciate as well. The road tax on it is cheap where I am since the road tax is based on CC.

    • @davem5231
      @davem5231 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The T4 is the best car Porsche has ever made and the motor is the best motor that suits this car best.

  • @alexanderthyrrestrup6184
    @alexanderthyrrestrup6184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    I love that you don't ruin the sound from the cars by putting lots of music over like so many others

  • @user-lh1iv9js8x
    @user-lh1iv9js8x ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a teenager in the mid 70s I remember reading a review of the then new 930 turbo, the content and photos of which sparked a life-long desire to own a Porsche. In the mid 80s a Porsche franchise opened in the village where I lived, and with a lot of luck, I started delivering and collecting its customers' cars at weekends - 944s, 911s, 928s, and an exquisite orange 912, which was for sale at £10,000 - hindsight!. My Porsche driving days ended all to soon when I moved on in my full-time job, returning my Porsche experiences to magazines and tv car shows. But my desire to own didn’t diminish, and on my recent retirement I finally got my own set of keys, to a manual Cayman 987.2, something very similar in size and pace to the early 911s, delivering an intoxicating surge of induction and pace as the flat 6 races to the red line. The cost of the air-cooled cars may have escaped me, but the best Porsche is the one you can afford - and that’s my Cayman!

  • @budtcheez
    @budtcheez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    2 year owner of a 718 GTS. Love the performance on the street and as best in class. 2.5L, PDK, dual clutch is a thing of beauty.

    • @realkingrav2265
      @realkingrav2265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does this car get a lot of attention on the road?

    • @lolowong439
      @lolowong439 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@realkingrav2265 a hell lot I would say.

  • @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
    @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    I am happy to have a 987 Cayman S in my collection. And it has a manual transmission. I love it to bits! 😀

    • @echotwo5813
      @echotwo5813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here, got the 987 Boxster S

    • @Gnrnrvids
      @Gnrnrvids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Same. I've had mine about 2 months now and it has single handedly ruined driving any of my other cars. The manual is absolutely divine.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me too. I have a cayman R. 987. Stick. My wife has the 718, the cayman R is quicker, better handling & manual. It’s a lighter gearbox, plus there is no electrical nonsense like voice control. Everything stripped for weight. It’s a racing machine. Quicker than the stock 911 carerra

    • @charleslu7044
      @charleslu7044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Echo Two, I traded my 05 Boxster S for a 981Spyder and I miss my old Porsche more than I thought I would. What they say about older and newer Porsches is true, “It’s a better car but a worse Porsche”.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles Lu absolutely correct. It’s a proper drive the 987 it’s manual not an automatic for starters. no fancy voice control or gadgets. More fun to drive the 987 but as you say the 718 is the better car.

  • @LsnakeM
    @LsnakeM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I bought a 987 Cayman S this year and i love it!

  • @gagangill5520
    @gagangill5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Just purchased my first Porsche yesterday after years of BMW M Cars. I am happy to announce it is a 981 GTS!! And I think it's a better drive than the M4 GTS I'm getting out of. Watching this just made me forget what buyer's remorse means!

    • @sixpotshot
      @sixpotshot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You got it right buddy

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There used to be some overlap, where people crosshopped m3:s and porsches, but that was another era. Now, just get a porsche and forget about bmw. The 1m, sure, but that was also years ago and its not like CSL vs 911 of those days anyway. And im saying this as a lifelong bmw fan, gave up about 10 years ago.

    • @robertscarano4205
      @robertscarano4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I picked up my 981 GTS back in December to replace my ATS-V (which replaced my M235i). You chose wisely and made a great decision!

    • @gagangill5520
      @gagangill5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fredriksvard2603 I agree, and I got into this F80 generation hoping to get some of that back, but when I test drive this 981, I knew it was something special. NA engines are amazing, but the gas milage on them are 😬

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gagan Gill i kinda realized this with a cayman in, hmm, might have been 2012-13 or so. Lost track of bmw after e92 and 1m, im sure m2 is good but 1) bmw has nothing to compete with current new p cars, and there are no real successors to e30, e36, and 2) there are such good options for used porsches, like older caymans/gt4 and996/997 c2 and turbo. GT3/2/rs i always thought were beyond bmw, you dont crosshop those and m cars really. Porsche still makes some somewhat lightweight track focused cars, bmw were still in that game up until e46 (csl) platform. Now i dont see how they differ from mercedes and audi really (and lets not get into how those brands stepped up in racing and with the r8 and gtr models).

  • @dsilvap
    @dsilvap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    My favorite gen is the 981, I love the looks, the sound, the options you could choose.

    • @movieclipz5034
      @movieclipz5034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      By far the best looking of the 3

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      yea definitely the best sounding one by far. The noise is intoxicating. Better sounding than any 991 generation 911s that isn't a GT3 or GT3RS (the 991.1 GTS also sounds very good but 981 GTS still takes it imo, it just sounds so much closer to your head and ears, just absolutely blasting the noise into your ears)

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@movieclipz5034 987 has the engine noise but missing that post 2012 exhaust work that all german sports cars focused more on starting around that era,
      718 tries very hard to make it up with the exhaust but it only got so much attractive engine noise to work with (I personally still think it sounds quite ugly...)
      981 is perfect in that regard.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diego SP The man who designed the Cayman, Pinky Lai, calls out the 987 as the one that will go down in the history books. They’re all great cars, however there can only be one first. Listen to his quote here - th-cam.com/video/5qt2J12aUJs/w-d-xo.html

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      981 does have the best looking front end but that fugly rear tho...

  • @RuTube981
    @RuTube981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a 981 Cayman S manual that I hunted for after I saw your video from 2012 about how amazing a used cayman S was. No regret. Best car ever. Thank you so much!

  • @oliverm.gilbert9639
    @oliverm.gilbert9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So glad I just bought 987 cayman what a beauty of a car!

  • @TommyWalls007
    @TommyWalls007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've got a 981 GTS. The sound totally consumes you at higher RPM. Even at low RPM, the growl and bangs always keep a smile on your face.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2.5k RPM...it gargles. Mmmmmmmm.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lows revs sounds like someone slurping the end of thier milkshake with a straw

  • @JordanDietz
    @JordanDietz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    "Show me an angle that isn't delicious." Now that's Tshirt material!

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You beat me to saying that....

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, 981 doesn't really have the prettiest rear. 791 is an improvement but still, I feel like it could do better. I also hate the centre exhaust. It makes the car look cheap and ruins the esthetic. Thank god they split up the exhaust for the 2021 GTS model.

    • @seivaDsugnA
      @seivaDsugnA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jankay8569 981 has the perfect rear. It's in the back.

  • @hchaves27
    @hchaves27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Gts 4.0 is what you needed here for a true comparison

    • @tamasszabo8824
      @tamasszabo8824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very true.

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sure. It would also sound the worst.

    • @drewmorg.
      @drewmorg. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Meatwad650 No one really ever comments on the 4.0 GTS sound in their review videos, I wonder why!!

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drewmorg. I know, right? They might be forced to admit it wasn't all about the number of cylinders...

    • @mikedodd9294
      @mikedodd9294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      from the criteria they used to pick the 987 I do think the 4.0 GTS would win. Looking forward to more of these Cayman reviews in the future. 2024's electric Cayman has to be included with that 4.0 GTS! You just can't go wrong with any of these cars.

  • @timmy6012
    @timmy6012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Nice review guys, Porsche really nailed it when they came up with the Cayman models. I drive a 2.7 with a few of the option boxes ticked. I never tire of listening to the flat 6 in sports mode as it revs through 5 to 7 thousand rpm, music to my ears. Great cars with an epic soundtrack!

    • @RussellMiddleton
      @RussellMiddleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Likewise! IMO the 2.7 is plenty fast for the public road, and means you can rev it out to hear that flat-6 noise longer. Have fun.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The 2.7 really is a gem. You can rev it out everyday.

    • @tylerhollman587
      @tylerhollman587 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just got a 2007 2.7 5 speed cayman. It's amazing

    • @hiphopcommunity4203
      @hiphopcommunity4203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love the 2.7 beautiful car

  • @DaGrybo
    @DaGrybo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I remember watching your black Cayman review before buying my first Cayman. Now I'm on the 987.2S in manual, and everything spoken in this review is right. You feel the steering wheel column connected to the wheels through your hands, the 987 hydraulic rack gives you a ton of feedback, especially when it gets serious with the front wheels, it will brake your hands if you have the wrong accident. That's where the magic with the Cayman happens, because the car sits on the road in a very refined way. It has enough mass to feel respectable and safe. Then you step on it and in the curve the car feels responsive, lively, short - like a backpack. This wheelbase, the proportion and the simple suspension setup, not too wide 265 tires, all make it just the right experience, it's quite astounding because when you understand it you see how this is the perfect formula for a drivers car. Damping in my S is just right for me to daily it with pleasure. And then with a blip of the gas pedal you have a motorbike like experience. It's not only the power, it's the sound, the way the suspension flexes, the vibration. It's one of the true great sports cars of all time.

  • @sergeantsqueaker
    @sergeantsqueaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Great video as ever. Nice to see a comparison of these. Personally I think Porsche got it right straight out of the box. 987 for me. And BTW those roads you're on are amazing!

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    the best moment in time is the 981 - looks best of them, flat 6 - all the right options - Paul, don't sell it ever! Get a 2nd car if you must but keep the GTS.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Prefer the back end of the 987 to the 981 myself, but the rest of the 981 is a nice small tick nicer. More developed interior too.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      987.1 is the moment in time car. End.

  • @lonniecrook1684
    @lonniecrook1684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Have owned my 2016 981 S manual for two years now. I grin every time I turn the key and hear that normally aspirated 6 jump to life. I've never felt connected to a car like this one. There may be nuances between these three, but I absolutely love the feeling of driving my Cayman S. You can't go wrong with this car!

    • @MrJef06
      @MrJef06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know what you mean, I owned a 2014 981 (2.7) and now a 2016 981 GTS :) Test drove the 718 S, didn't like it.

  • @movieclipz5034
    @movieclipz5034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'll watch each and every video you make on Caymans, especially the 981

  • @alfonso87ful
    @alfonso87ful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just bought an old boxter s. Next year I plan to add an older cayman s to my collection. Great videos. Glad to see you guys going strong and love your work..

  • @arsnova1321
    @arsnova1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    All the Cayman gens are great, but I've got a lot of love for the 987. 981 isn't a bad choice either, a good increase in power and kept the classic Porsche flat-6.

  • @Momo_8k
    @Momo_8k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's like you gentlemen knew I have spent my entire week looking at 981 and 718 Caymans 👍

  • @y0ungj0m
    @y0ungj0m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you already know, love you guys' videos to bits. Amazing scenery, information and of course entertaining.

  • @bstancel12
    @bstancel12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad that I discovered this channel. Really like these guys, their reviews and that they are just themselves. As a former Top Gear UK fan, I have seen so many people, shows and TH-cam channels try to recreate the dynamic of the hosts on that show instead of just being themselves. That is just difficult to watch. However, watching these guys, their takes and reviews just works and is refreshing. Thanks for filling that gap of a great automotive channel / show for car enthusiasts.

  • @deanoc
    @deanoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Having driven all 3 I totally agree with all of your comments. It is worth knowing that you can significantly improve the feel of the 981 by fitting the 718 rear ARB and brace as well as dialling in more neg camber. This is about all that Porsche changed and the improvement is drastic.

    • @TheTravisTube
      @TheTravisTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting! As the owner of a 981s with x73 suspension, I have always wondered how much of the handling improvement granted to the 718 actually comes down to the suspension versus subtle changes in electronic steering. PASM is the sportiest option in the 718, but it gets major kudos and I've no doubt that it is good. Another tiny detail to keep in mind is that the steering wheel of the 718 actually has a smaller radius (I know this for sure because I recently swapped out my OEM multifunction wheel for a 718 wheel lol). I really need to drive the 718 (preferably on track), because now I'm curious about the overall differences in the way the two cars are set up.

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The 987 just looks TIMELESS!

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      get glasses asap

    • @WormOfEscence
      @WormOfEscence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jankay 🗿

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Timeless.

    • @mohibzafar4585
      @mohibzafar4585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. Its the nearest cayman ever got to 911s.

    • @SonicProvocateur
      @SonicProvocateur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mohibzafar4585 Not surprising. The original 987 test mule was a 911 Cabriolet! Pinky Lai got it right first time; it has the classic Porsche styling thats absolutely timeless.

  • @stefanescurichard773
    @stefanescurichard773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really wanted to see a video on this from you, great job👍

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    987 for the win!

  • @morganvon5664
    @morganvon5664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this originally aired about 3 years ago. You guys really nailed it by choosing the Cayman R. It's a pretty rare car and has held it's value amazingly well. I've been trying to buy one, and many, especially the launch color peridot green, are selling for close to original sticker price.

  • @soulstyledevon
    @soulstyledevon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    987.2 is a timeless classic. In a world where everything has gone digital and touch sensitive, somewhat sterile.
    987s offer the classic sports car feel and package. Future classic...

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm going to take this personally.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd argue the first gen R is more of a future classic than the 987.2, definitely a lot more exclusive, you don't see them that often in the wild

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@2gj906 987.2 is all Caymans from 2009-2012, including the base, S, and R (2012 only). But, I assume you're saying that the R is more exclusive (only 1621 made) and more of a future classic (cost $50k-60k) than the base and the S, which I believe you're right. But, at twice the price, with no A/C or radio, I chose the S.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lucky008aau You're right the way R is specced isn't my first choice either, it's just a Porschephile's Special

    • @zzbear
      @zzbear 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love my 987.2. Best sound, best steering, best braking; hardly any breaking. No IMS issues.

  • @NoahBB
    @NoahBB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video guys, much appreciated!

  • @tommy516
    @tommy516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use to have a 718 GTS....I have a 992 Base and a few other Porsches but I'm watching you guys now to live Vicariously.....I have little kids and can never get out to drive. Those Aspens are great!

  • @SJ-bk1zm
    @SJ-bk1zm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I liked this review a lot! You guys know what you are talking about: a very honest view on the different generations. Also: the sound quality is superb! It's something very rare to catch the sound in such a good way in a video. Thank you very much! Keep up the good work.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed and we appreciate you watching and commenting!

  • @sadubone
    @sadubone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the sound of Paul's exhaust. nicely done.

  • @2kviper877
    @2kviper877 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought my 987.2 base Cayman on the cheap and was just going to flip it for a quick buck.
    That was 4 years ago. I love this car!
    Another fantastic episode!
    Keep em coming!

  • @Jwdude123
    @Jwdude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Porsche 987 styling is perfection. Hydraulic steering is ace. They got it right the first time. The moment in time car.

  • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
    @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Cayman R for me all day long.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George Paraskevopoulos +1 from me

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its fugly tho

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the 987.1 has the engine that breaks

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @John S I don't doubt that you have a good example. Bore scoring (which can also happen on the 9A1) keeps me up at night :)

    • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
      @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Vasilakes an engine can get fixed. That’s not an issue. Here we are talking about driving pleasure. If you want a car that doesn’t break get yourself a Toyota. I don’t want to argue, but that’s the truth.

  • @thomaswschaller
    @thomaswschaller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great review - Thank you guys . I have never loved a car as much as my 987 manual 6. I had a 981 for a year, and only test-drove a 718 PDK - but came back to the 987. Also, I think it's the most beautiful of the lot . But any Cayman - with that mid-engine Porsche magic - can't go wrong.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. End of discussion.

  • @vasipete
    @vasipete 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have to say this came up as a suggested video and i'm not mad about it! Great Video Gents!!!

  • @jeffrey-f
    @jeffrey-f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    987.2 was my favorite perfect shape with updated lights and small

  • @hollowpoint27
    @hollowpoint27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great comparison. The 718 is my favorite, but I love them all

  • @jochemr.a.bakker8048
    @jochemr.a.bakker8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I went from a 987.1S to a 718S (both manuals). The lesser appeal to a lot of people for the 718 got me a great deal on one. My 987.1 sounded better than the 718 does, but everything else is better on the new one. And the auto rev matching is heavenly. Sure, I can heel-toe, but not as consistent as the 718 can do it for me. You guys should do the same series with all manual cars :)

  • @simonjohansson5226
    @simonjohansson5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, love the production quality, getting top gear vibes almost. Keep up the great work! Glad I found u guys.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found us too! Thanks for watching... lots more on the way.

  • @tonyli5197
    @tonyli5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)

    • @davidleung1340
      @davidleung1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)

    • @TheNameITriedWasTaken
      @TheNameITriedWasTaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ouchhh

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    definitely, 981 GTS will be the go-to one in the future especially when Naturally aspirated sports cars with great sound become impossible to get and are not produced anymore.
    987 R closely after.
    But 981 is the better middle ground that can age better from a design, reliability, and support perspective.

    • @Te1ecastermaster
      @Te1ecastermaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      718 gts 4.0...

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nate Crabtree nope, I disagree and here’s the technicals to why:
      718 GTS 4.0 sounds worse than 981 GTS (especially with the particulate filter). Near non-existent noise below 4000 rpm but due to sharing the same horrible gear ratios as the 981 (also 981's big flaw too imo), except with even more horsepower. Slow gearing with even more horsepower means that to hear that engine you’re in 100% jail speeds. Whereas the 981 makes nice sound anywhere past 2000 rpm and even 2000rpm makes a grumbly sound (but arguably a drone sound, still better than nothing). While its still got horrible gearing, at least you still get to hear something. And since it has less horsepower, you can actually ride the horrid gears and end up in less speed than hte 718 4.0 GTS. Espeically when the day comes where none of these cars are competitive at 0-60, this will matter even more.
      Secondly, 718 GTS 4.0 is built on an engine complying with newer emission standards and laws. It also has much less induction noise as well.
      Thirdly, 718 GTS 4.0 price point is much higher. As high if not more than 981 GT4 if we were to travel back in time. And I am referring to average samples around the market,not starting price (which is a horrible indication for porsches).
      Also I’m assuming everyone already knows this. The GTS “4.0” ‘s 4.0 engine is not the GT3 4.0 engine. It’s a much cheaper to produce engine based on the twin turbo flat 6 used in 991.2 and 992.1 911s. But stripped its turbos and bored and stroked up to 4.0. Which is why it sounds so bland.

    • @watermelon2521
      @watermelon2521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. My dad bought a 981 gts and dang it sounds good...

    • @jeffrey-f
      @jeffrey-f 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      981 is the ugliest generation too bulky

    • @bunsenn5064
      @bunsenn5064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZDY66666 So it’s the sound? That’s it? Like, when people complain about turbocharging these days, I can usually understand that being due to the performance difference and the way the car delivers power. The sound is probably one of the last things that matters. The emotion and driving experience of an engine is about the way the engine performs and feels. And frankly, the sound isn’t really a turn-off for me. A naturally aspirated flat-six on its own is enough for me.

  • @imaheatfan
    @imaheatfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done guys. So refreshing to see journalists not poopoo the 718’s flat four. ...but I’d still option mine as a 718 GTS 4.0

  • @7027A
    @7027A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No car videos feature better engine sounds than what you guys capture. I love that there are no GoPros stuck on the outside of the cars. All exterior action shots are captured from a chase car or drone or roadside...the best!

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for noticing - it creates extra work, but we think it's important. Glad to have you watching!

  • @lackeringen
    @lackeringen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great comparison. Great job.

  • @2000viperrt
    @2000viperrt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Another great episode! Keep-em coming guys!
    Love my 2009 987.2 manual. So much fun to drive. It’s hard to stop putting miles on it. Like my Viper it’s a hooligan car. And there is definitely a new 4.0 Cayman or maybe Boxter in my future.

  • @TheUnlistedOne
    @TheUnlistedOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    BEST VIDEO EVER! ........ BUT, 981GTS for life!

  • @sleepeatdrive7619
    @sleepeatdrive7619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done! I owned a 987.2 Boxster PDK and I loved the hell out of it! Now I’m looking for a S2000 CR

  • @MikeHuffman410
    @MikeHuffman410 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review and perfect backdrop!

  • @orangecayman520
    @orangecayman520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    987 for me, but I'm biased 😉

  • @MAXREVS
    @MAXREVS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve just been sent a link to this video by a subscriber as I run a Cayman focused YT channel. This is going to be an epic video!! Disclaimer, I own a 987.2 CS ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Max!

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomingrassiaimages8776 Fancy seeing you here. Having owned a 987 and now a 981, all that’s left is to buy a 718 one day ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MAXREVS Max...you know..I think you have convinced me that 911's are not in my future. I am so happy with my 981 GTS. I can't even imagine what would come next. Probably a 2020 718 GTS in 2026.

  • @Chris-hb6jt
    @Chris-hb6jt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    987.2 is peak cayman, solved the reliability issues. I put 65k miles on mine and made money

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys do absolute best "in depth" reviews on cars that are for driving enthusiasts! I've tried & failed to aquire an M2CS bcuz I really need adaptive suspension (I don't get in my M2Comp). The Cayman GTS is high on my radar due to pre-owned Caymans not dropping enough in value. Porsche needs to include more options w/ base units (they're options lists are getting annoying & stupid). Hence why I've put a deposit down for a Lotus Emira! Can't wait to see your review on that mid engine Cayman competitor!

  • @Bananagrouve
    @Bananagrouve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guys, please never stop making these videos

  • @strebrr
    @strebrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I'd love to see a comparison between the flat 4 Turbo Cayman GTS vs. the NA flat 6 4.0 Cayman GTS 😍

  • @benlowden5799
    @benlowden5799 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly informative, thank you!

  • @PStewart28
    @PStewart28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stunning cinematography. Well done gentleman.

  • @donzmeuheu6153
    @donzmeuheu6153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    987 All the Way. Best Car ever made by Porsche.

  • @sniperBOBAH
    @sniperBOBAH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    718 for daily, 981 for weekend and 987 for track :-)

  • @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube
    @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys are incredibly enjoyable to watch. The know their cars, they really know how to spin a yarn, and they feel like guys you'd like to drive around with. I've never written a comment like this because it sounds weird. It's just something that needed to be said. Cheers.

  • @chst9801
    @chst9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another good video, thanks! Did I miss where you discussed outward visibility, seating position?

  • @02b6a4
    @02b6a4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As an owner of a 981cs for the past 6+ years and having driven the 718bs for a day, I can say that I'd stick with the 981cs. 718bs felt like a better car in terms of acceleration, suspension, and overall handling. The 981cs is just a better Porsche for me. Would love to experience the 987r.

  • @carsandchronos
    @carsandchronos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Have had a 987 for almost 5 years. A true pleasure to drive. Very analog feel (manual transmission, real gauges, etc) with timeless style and design!

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moment in time car. Future classic.

  • @bmcallister1974
    @bmcallister1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair assessment. Although I’ve only experienced the 718 and own a 2014 Boxster 981S. Agree 100% the 718 is more agile. I just need the Na flat 6 sound. Especially with the top down. I look forward to trying the 987 someday! Great video guys!

  • @briandeaton3550
    @briandeaton3550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great topic and video. I'm a Corvette enthusiast but am most likely to cross shop a Cayman.

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    PS. Absolutely love the roads you guys choose for these auto vlogs. Looks like Yellowstone.

  • @DrivenGarage
    @DrivenGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just because this video it confirmed my love for the 981, now im flying out tomorrow to get a 981!!🥰😍 to join the Lotus family 😇

  • @siebevdc9403
    @siebevdc9403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My god, this is the best video on TH-cam. Proud owner of a Cayman 987.2. What a review,!

  • @joshuadewaal
    @joshuadewaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked up a manual 981, also a Utah native, those are some choice roads, luckily I recognized most of them, thanks for sorting out my coming weekend plans!

  • @watermelon2521
    @watermelon2521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dads got a 981 gts and holy that thing sounds sooooo good

  • @c4lvin1337
    @c4lvin1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely love my 981 Cayman S. But you just cant go wrong with any generation Cayman. Absolute hilarious fun.

  • @dubd7626
    @dubd7626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait to hear the podcast I listened to all of them so much my phone asked if I was still interested in the other podcast I’m subscribed to 😂

  • @lewiseig5432
    @lewiseig5432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved my Cayman R but in the suburbs, pot holes and bad roads are so much more acceptable in a GT4 981....and then there's everything else, almost the same weight in my stripped GT4 as the R, but significantly more HP, and the sound....wow. great job on this video.

  • @armancz
    @armancz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Never thought I'd ever say this but I love the sound of 718 in this video, and now with 6 cylinder back in GTS 4 cylinder GTS will be a bargain.

    • @capuchinseven
      @capuchinseven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just traded my 981 for a 718 and I honestly do not understand the hate.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@capuchinseven people just don`t like the sound of the four cylinder, not to mention the feel. No turbo eithir makes the earlier models feel more sporting fun as you have to work the engine a bit more.

    • @heavyarmsofsteel
      @heavyarmsofsteel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just picked up 2018 Cayman S. In 2 weeks already had neighbours say it is loud....louder than my prior boxster 981 with PSE. Driving dynamics....no comparison. 718 all the way

    • @thomasbummer4361
      @thomasbummer4361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heavyarmsofsteel cant compare boxster to cayman dynamics

    • @michaelmich00
      @michaelmich00 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@capuchinseven how did u like it past years? pro's and cons?

  • @vietthanhnguyen1227
    @vietthanhnguyen1227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the first gen design. Especially the round fog lights

    • @SLG52
      @SLG52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an 06S. I see people who replace the round lights with cheap looking LED strips. It is terrible!!!!

    • @vietthanhnguyen1227
      @vietthanhnguyen1227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SLG52ikr they want their car look like newer 981, like some company sell bodykit to "transform" 997 to 991 lol. So stupid.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree.

  • @minimcewen
    @minimcewen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhh....love the video. Sometimes I feel like my 981 is the unwanted stepchild of Porsche. Visited the factory and could not find anything 981 (books, models, stickers...). Such a great car all but I just wish the new models could still house a roof rack for extra storage. Not sure why they decided to do away with that when the 911 still has the mounts for the roof rack. Give me that and a sunroof and bliss.

  • @patrickodonnell9388
    @patrickodonnell9388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a 987.1 it's a 5 speed manual and it's a beautiful car that I love. It's not a S model but it's still a blast to drive. I did all the upgrades that were possible like seats and exhaust and suspension but I didn't touch anything related to the engine because I believe it's perfect as is.

  • @ahlapski
    @ahlapski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Well, it has to be a manual 987 R (not PDK) for me.

    • @DS-vx3wf
      @DS-vx3wf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Porsche CEO, - “if you want to be the fastest, the most control of the car, using the full potential of the car, there’s nothing better than the double-clutch, the PDK. It doesn’t get any better,”

    • @chikara758
      @chikara758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a manual 981c and now have a 718 cayman PDK. The PDK is badass. Paddle shifting and/or sports+ mode are pure fun.

    • @512TXSDIY
      @512TXSDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DS-vx3wf Maybe... but it’s a boring drive with PDK even if it’s faster. Manual allows more interaction with car I think.

    • @sonicsabbath
      @sonicsabbath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@512TXSDIY You actually drive one?

    • @512TXSDIY
      @512TXSDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sonicsabbath I have, yes. It drives great but not for me is all.

  • @mechanics718
    @mechanics718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proud to say I got a 981 S a couple months ago! Where can I cop Todd's jacket?

  • @fragu123
    @fragu123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to watch your guy’s reviews.....

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. The Cayman has been my dream car since it came on the market, and it's nice to see this comparison of all three generations. I'd love a 718 GTS 4.0, but it's not in the books for me yet.. until then I have to be content with my current dream car, a Corrado VR6 with Bilstein B12 suspension, Eibach sway bars & Wiechers strut bars front and rear, carbon hood, LiPo battery, Tarox brakes, and some other good stuff.

  • @thevaughnshow
    @thevaughnshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve been lucky enough to own all 3 Cayman generations. My latest 718 is the best of the bunch out of all 3. Why? Because, in my opinion, the 718 has better handling, better acceleration, better tech & the best interior of all 3. I’m impressed whenever I’m behind the wheel & look forward to the next Cayman generation.

    • @kaisvlog7208
      @kaisvlog7208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very seriously considering the 718 300HP 2.0L but thinking that I might miss out a whole lot from the 981 flat 6 341hp.
      Both PDK. I live in a rather small city with fair amount of country roads
      Hope you can sway me to the 718 and not much im missing fr d inline 6 and the sound. But I can be seduced by the inline 6 and the sound.
      Which has better throttle response?

  • @atticus6572
    @atticus6572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Funnily, each generation of Cayman can and will be argued as the underrated one.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've only really heard people call the 718 underrated, never the 981 at least compared to other Caymans. They're all underrated by 911 fans of course. What I definitely haven't heard though is anyone calling a Cayman overrated. They're definitely not perfect cars, but right now I can't think of a car I'd rather have than a 981S (which is good because I just spent a lot of money on one!).

  • @BaltoMal
    @BaltoMal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a great review

  • @coreyworthingtonii9230
    @coreyworthingtonii9230 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the 981 model. I drove the base 981 Cayman and it was a beautiful drive and omfg the sound is so sweet. Really, a piece of art in my mind.

  • @RussellMiddleton
    @RussellMiddleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great comparison. I've driven all extensively, and found the 987 is by far the most communicative and the best choice for a weekend car. Extra refinement of the 981 worth considering for a daily or for long distances. I can't imagine paying more for a 718 and losing that beautiful sound.
    My solution was to take the 981 budget (~$35k) and buy a 987 for weekends + and a Golf GTI for practical stuff/long distance. The greatest weekend fun in the Cayman + serious 4-seat practicality (and still a chunk of fun!) the rest of the time. Regularly driving two very different types of car is enjoyable too.
    Don't think there's any going back to the feel of the 987, so sadly think this is the last Porsche I'll own. I love it.

  • @keking2178
    @keking2178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    981 best sounding cayman. Miss my 2016 gts

  • @dpr5105
    @dpr5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 97 C4S, had it for about 3 years, then got tired of it and sold it (big mistake given current prices..) and got a Lotus Elise, had that for about 3 years as well. Then got a new 2011 Cayman 987 and I STILL have it because I've never been bored by it. Still a delight every time I drive it.

    • @DAPPERDANMEMEO
      @DAPPERDANMEMEO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 2011 S as well. Perfection

  • @augiehong3927
    @augiehong3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the video. but the non-delicious view is the one of the pdk shifter... :P great job.

  • @goofydog2
    @goofydog2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I waited 3 years before I plucked down for my 981 Cayman. I still think it was the greatest looking Cayman and I still think it is. The 987 just drooped too much, especially the rear end as well as the side view.

  • @iluvcakes19
    @iluvcakes19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    987 is easily my favorite gen!

  • @jeffreygong1101
    @jeffreygong1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul and Todd is actually the same person split in two, the split personalities aside (which i love) , you can also see it by looking at their hair line, they complete each other like a jigsaw piece to its slot, I love it.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review gentleman. I am glad to hear people praising Porsche's 4 cylinder turbo. I'd like to drive one and see how it performs.

  • @Tekart47
    @Tekart47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great review as always... Recently picked up a used 2018 Cayman S (6 spd with every performance option ticked) and it is such an amazing car on the street and track. Let the purist hate on the 4 cylinder and go pick one up for a deal used and drive the crap out of it.

    • @dana.4263
      @dana.4263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, 2 weeks ago. Came from Audi TTS ..this is quite a bit better experience so far

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dana.4263 really, I have a mk2 tt, how does it differ?
      Thinking about a ttrs, cayman 718 s, 981 s or just wait and see on the emira

  • @fredrikholmstrom3034
    @fredrikholmstrom3034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved the commentary and the photography but I really struggled to follow which generation Cayman you were discussing.

    • @simonhill2668
      @simonhill2668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto

    • @bryanmiller2023
      @bryanmiller2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thought exactly... Porsches numbering scheme and the fact that all three generations look so similar made it tough to tell which generation you were in each time you jumped to the next car. I need to watch it again and pay more attention to the details!

  • @GoldPlatedCheese
    @GoldPlatedCheese 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Based on this video I imagine the latest 718 GTS 4.0 would be the clear winner with the large power gains and refinements

  • @ormand3000
    @ormand3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought a CPO 981CS 3 years ago, and it's the best car I've ever owned. Easily replaces motorcycle trackday riding, and that's saying something!