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I was thinking about buying one a year ago, but never did. The one I was looking at was around $200. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it again and link it.
@@TrickShiftGarage I have kinda looked, and people are saying to get the one that screws on at the top. Because it's a closed system, it just didn't include the line markings. I'm planning on getting one and an aftermarket pan with the drain plug.
Recently decided to do this myself on my 2014 F-150 with the 5.0. This vid was most helpful. Not gonna lie this took me a LONG time to complete. Way more than I anticipated, but it gave me a great sense of accomplishment doing it myself. I am slowly trying to become my own mechanic for as many things as possible to avoid the shops.
Hey thanks Robby, we are glad it helped! Doing maintenance yourself can save you a ton of money, which is especially important right now because of inflation. Thanks for watching and let us know if there is anything else you need help with! 🤟
Your first transmission pan drop is going to take a long time. My first was on my 04 Ram 1500 with the 545RFE transmission. Took me like 3 or 4 hours the first time. Was like 30 minutes each time afterward. Great job on learning to do your own maintenance!
Use pump fluid extractor from harbor freight to suck out most of fluid with the narrow flexible hose it comes with, this prevents leakage/spillage when dropping the pan, once pan is off suck remaining fluid in pan. The extractor has level indicator so you know exactly how much is removed and replace with new fluid. Use a 2 gallon bug sprayer from walmart or wherever and fill with correct amount of fluid, cut the plastic tip off wand. I bought a 2 foot cheap air wand at harbor freight and put it in vice, used a mapp torch to heat and bend it into a hook and I attached it to bug sprayer, it stays hooked into hole for ez refill.
You know what, i got more confident in changing it myself instead of paying hundreds of dollars for someone to do it. Thank you for this useful video. Hello from Wichita Ks.
Man thanks a million...... I was intimidated by the thought of this job at 1st with my own 2013 F-150 3.7 Liter with a whopping 260K miles and counting on it...
Couple of comments for anyone. One who wants to do their own transmission service, he used paper towels to wipe the pan out and the filter connection which isn't bad. But when after you clean the pan ideally you should use compressed air, but above all, be sure not to use rags because they deposit lint on the surfaces of things. You can't really see it but it does and that will eventually wash and get up into the filter. In addition, many of the Ford products and other manufacturers have reusable gaskets. They're usually rubber with ribs on them and they'll have metal washers embedded in them around the bolts to stop the bolt at a certain point, so never throw those away. They're reusable. Oftentimes the filter kit will give you some cheap gasket that's not designed to work the way the original one is
Helpful video of yours.. I just did the trans service on my 2013 ford f150 fx4 today. 6r80 trans. I have done a lot of trans services on my vehicles over the years but this was the first for this truck. Very easy as I mentioned. Drove the truck to get the trans to 165 degrees. Lowered the pan and drained the oil. The filter came down with the pan as was expected. Cleaned the pan and magnet and wiped down the socket inside the trans where the filter fits in. This helps keep the new filter in place as you lift the clean pan with the reused Motorcraft gasket in place.. Put five qts of Mercon LV in and started the truck and shifted through the gears. Left it running and Checked the dipstick level. ( short dipstick alongside trans on the passenger side) and it was low at 145 degrees. Added another 2 qts and it is now almost up the B hashmark ( which is the full mark at 180 degrees operating temp) , again check the oil level while it is running in Park.. Going forward I will check the trans oil every time I do an oil change. By the way, I used a 3 foot flexible hose ( from a dishwasher discharge) and funnel to add the trans oil. Much easier than pumping the oil from underneath the truck..
Was there enough gravity from a funnel to feed into the tube into the trans? I'm about to do this service - I am not looking forward to filling this thing lol
I came across this today....totally by chance. My 4x4 F150 is being serviced for this as we speak. I understand what the mechanics were talking about when I dropped it off yesterday. Thanks!
Real nice video. Lots of good camera shots. Ford really did a disservice to its customers by not having a traditional under the hood dipstick to check the fluid level. There are after market dip stick kits, but they are over $200! In one service manual, I read that the fluid level should be checked when the transmission is at normal operating temperature while running. That becomes a a hell of a task to not burn yourself on the cat converter. I think what you did was fine, If the level is at the bottom of A while cold, it should expand to the B mark when its hot.
Thank you I really appreciate the kind words! And I totally agree. A dipstick may cost them less than $1 to put in all of these trucks. I know I would gladly pay an extra dollar to have one. I think I may eventually buy the aftermarket dipstick, but I'm also having a hard time throwing $200 at it right now. Especially for something that should already be on the vehicle from the factory. Thanks for watching, we really appreciate it!
@@TrickShiftGarage Yes, this transmission requires a sealed and locking dipstick because the transmission operates under vacuum. The after market dipstick assembly cost in Canada is closer to $300, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Ford could have provided it for $20 bucks.
Just did this job on my 14 f150 2 weekends ago. Take dipstick out. Use a fluid extractor, put hose in fill port and suck the fluid out first! So much easier
Any time I do a transmission job and it does not have a drain plug I just drill a 3/8 hole in lowest part of pan to drain. Saves big on mess, then I tack weld a nut inside and install a drain plug.
As soon as you mentioned trick shift at the beginning because I'm new to this channel it reminded me of my moroso transmission fluid that I used in my turbo hydramatic 400 back in the late seventies and it was brutal and could handle 690 horsepower naturally aspirated at the time...
That's amazing! I found out about that transmission fluid when googling our channel. Definitely an awesome transmission fluid to use in those 400's! Thanks for watching Wayne! 🤟
Dude, if not for you and your video, I wouldn’t have known about that Dorman pan with the drain plug. We just bought a 14 Navigator that I planned on swapping all fluids out to baseline the maintenance on it. The 3X pan drop and refill transmission service will be SO much easier after dropping the OEM pan (and changing the filter of course) for the 2 subsequent drain and fills. As for the video itself, I really appreciated your positive vibe and enthusiasm. It makes for an easier to watch video. Great work! Subscribed!
@@TrickShiftGarage Hey brother, just completed the pan drop, filter change, and new pan and gasket installed. Filled it with a gallon of Valvoline maxlife followed by just shy of 2 quarts of AMSOIL Fuel Efficient (their version of low viscosity) ATF. Even though it’s only the first volley of fluid changes on this transmission, it already shifts a lot more precisely…and ironically the ‘Gator coasts easier, lol. At 140k miles, the fluid in that pan was NASTY! No big metal flakes, just that fine mush stuck on the magnet though. I’ve got just shy of 22 quarts of the AMSOIL ATF on the shelf. Going to do a drain and refill each time I fill up with the next 2 tanks of gas, then once more when I’m due for an oil change. Couldn’t have done it without your video!
I bought a 2012 Navigator a year ago and a Ford dealer was able to confirm from the V.I.N. number, that the previous owner had serviced and changed transmission fluid at the $30K mile mark, as required by warranty. I'm at the 92K miles mark now and ready to do a drain & fill very soon to confirm a maintenance baseline. I'm definitely going to buy the Dorman pan with the drain plug to make future changes easier.
If you pop off a trans cooler line in the front under the radiator, you can pump out the remaining 8 quarts of old fluid by starting the truck and cycling the shift selector. Just keep topping off the transmission as you go so it does not suck dry. When it comes out bright red, you’re done.
I've been really thinking about doing a video on how to do that, but I need to do some more research. Do you know where I can find a write-up of this procedure?
Very helpful and concise video. One of the bolts at the rear of the pan was rounded and would not come off. I believe the threads of those bolts are exposed to the elements. I might try a 1/4" drive wobble extension and impact driver but if that doesn;t work I think I'm SOL.
Excellent video and right to the point. Checking this under the vehicle? Checking it well running? Checking it next to 'hot' exhaust components? Unbelievable a so called 'engineer' would design anything this bad and even worse for Ford to manufacture it.
fyi you can cold-fill/check with it just slightly warm...fluid should just barely hit the crosshatch area. At operating temp, fluid expansion should put it 3/4 or more of the way into the crosshatch, meaning it's good to go.
Thanks for the video, had some big repairs between my 2017 F150 and my wife's 2013 Explorer that I actually had to take to a shop since it was out of my scope. Glad to see this this one is fairly easy. I have around 75K on the F150 and tow fairly light loads with it constantly and wanted to get this done in the next couple of months. Then it will be onto the Explorer which doesn't look fun with the transfer case sine I have the awd model.
Yea this isn't too bad. I'll be doing an updated video for the transmission fluid, this time showing exactly how to fill it and how to tell when it's perfectly filled. Make sure you look in the description of this video as I have updated information in there. Let me know if you have any questions!
Got parts on the way, you made it look easy. Hoping it goes that way for me. Other videos show where 4 qts, 41/2 qts Then checking it and they are always putting more in. That had me confused, I am going to use your method, makes sense to me. I have a 2010 Ford f150 flex. With 150000 on it and just had the engine swapped, and was told I need to have my tranny serviced. Priced it and OMG expensive. I figured at that price I can get the parts, fluid, and tools for less and do it myself. My hard time is on the fluid level getting it right the first time.
So, you will need to keep filling when the transmission gets warm. I added that part to the description of the video because I didn't realize it needed to be done. You will be able to fit another quart or 2 in the transmission with it running while the fluid is warm. Let me know how it goes! 🙏
It took me a few hours to change mine because I'm just slow. I thought I only needed four quarts but I ended up using seven. The truck was leveled and the engine was running when I was checking it and since I didn't drain seven quarts, I'm guessing my tranny was slipping because the fluid was low? And that aluminum foil trick was ingenious. I spilled more fluid refilling it than removing the pan thanks to the foil.
and done thanks mate 😎🤙 did it with an automatic ATF pump all 7q in less then a min went threw the gears turned it off re checked the dip stick and water pressure the undercarriage so nothing catches fire while i left it idling for 30 minutes turned it off for an hour then drove home for 1 hour everything went smoothly i was just wishing bought that same pan you got would of man life easier the next time i do the fluid change but what ever the point is that its taken care of ✌️
Thank you for this video! I also got the Dorman pan that you got but unfortunately almost half the bolts would not line up! We are talking maybe a mm or a fraction of, but unless you drill or file them out, the transmission pan bolts will get hung up and possibly cross thread. Unfortunately I was not in a situation where I could finagle with the pan so I ended up using the existing Ford one which is much heavier and high quality
@@TrickShiftGarage ya know. They should work for all these! It was fractionally off by a mm which for us DIY wrenchers we can “improvise” but by engineering or pro standards that’s off by a country mile! I haven’t met a mechanic face to face yet who likes Dorman. I told my good friend what happened because he used to work for Dorman as early as this past spring! He lol’d and wasn’t surprised. It’s mind boggling what comes through engineering there. If it didn’t hit it ships he said. Unreal
Yea man, I've come across quite a few people that have not had any luck with Dorman products. Which I was shocked at first because I haven't had a single issue. But, I'm going to be cautious now because a lot of people have had issues.
Excellent video! Right down to the pan bolts torque specs!! As long as the trans fluid is warm and circulated by going through the gear patterns, Does the engine need to be running or just observe the A and B marks on the dip stick? Thanks for sharing!! Thanks for the Links you provided too!!! Appreciate that very much.
Hello! Yes, the engine needs to be running and you need to watch your transmission temp gauge. Once it gets up to operating temperature (this will take longer than the engine reaching normal operating temp), then you can continue to fill. The dipstick is odd. I'm not sure why there is an A or a B, but from what I've read you are better off filling it up to the top line. Once you get there, put the dipstick and cap back on, fasten it, and then you can shut the engine off. Don't shut the engine off while the dipstick and cap are off as this will cause fluid to leak out.
Trick of the trade, capture fluid into a measure bucket and just put the exact amount back in. We never check fluid levels when we do them lol, unless of course you suspect there is a reason to. Sweet video, thanks for helping me quickly quote this one.
i noticed you replaced the oem pan with an after market with a drain plug. That makes life alot easier. Why didnt ford make it to where trans changes were as easy as oil changes?
Definitely makes it easier. Personally, I think Ford (as well as some other automakers) do this to discourage owners from doing the maintenance on their vehicles. They want people to go to the dealer. And honestly, it works for the most part. Most people don't want to spend the extra time doing it themselves, so they just take it to the dealer. But you can save a boatload of money by doing it yourself. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Khoa! We appreciate it! 🤟
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! Also, make sure you look at the description of this video. I have information on how to properly fill these transmissions.
Thank you for your video…I followed step by step and yes… when I check the level engine off it was on the mark but with the engine ON and warm I add 2 litters more !!!! did I do it wright ?
Hello, I’m planning on doing the tranny fluid on my 2014 F150 this fall. Great video! I have one question… did you jack the truck at all? Is it necessary to jack the truck?
I put it on ramps because I was on a slight incline. It also gave me more room underneath. I guess it's possible to do it with jack stands and/or ramps, but it would be difficult. If you use jackstands and/or ramps, just make sure your truck is level to give you an accurate reading when filling.
great video definitely took a couple notes the newer the vehicle the more work it seems makes me miss the 1986 5.0 "ghost" might have to get another one
Yea it's definitely different. Also, make sure you check the description. There is more information there on how to properly fill these transmissions (if you haven't already). Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes when you do yours! 🤟
Okay let me help you guys out.... After you add 4 to 5 course of oil turn your freaking engine on and then continue to fill as it's running.... If you turn it off it'll spill out... But as it's running fill until it starts to spill out. Once it does now you have the proper level.... But do not turn off the engine while you have this cap otherwise it'll just come pouring out
If the transmission doesn't work after you are done, then it was already broken to begin with. Changing the fluid the proper way will not ruin your transmission. You can do this! Let us know who it goes! 🤟
It's crazy because It says that it's overfilled when cold. And when you turn it on and you check it while idling, it's barely halfways. I put a little less than six quarts
Thank you for the overall one of the best to date on my end an overall amazing video, definitely have my sharing support. Quick question where can I find what you used to pump the new Trans fluid back into pan?
after replacing 6 quarts out of almost 14 your drain plug is a nice idea , i want to do also . I would drive about 30 days and replace 5 quart again....and then again in 30 days
Changing fluid frequently would be equivalent to doing a transmission fluid flush, rather than a drain & fill. A full fluid flush is never recommended unless it's a very low mileage vehicle. My transmission fluid was flushed and filled by Ford at 30K miles, but Ford recommends only a drain & fill at 100K miles and every 60K miles there after.
Great video, incredibly helpful. Question for you guys. I have a 2013 f150 v8 5.0L. I put the front wheels on ramps, drained the pan (foil idea was clutch), cleaned it, replaced filter, put the pan back, and then pumped just shy of 6 quarts into the transmission until it started to overflow (still up on ramps). Took it off the ramps, let id idle for 15 mins, cool for 5, then checked fluid level. Why would it still be showing low? It's not even reaching the "B". I know the obvious thing is to add more fluid, but I really don't want to risk overfilling and dealing with that issue.
Definitely add more fluid. And many people have informed me you need to check and top off the fluid while the engine is running (and the transmission fluid needs to be warm). You will need heat resistant gloves as the plug is right next to the catalytic converter. Don't worry about overfilling, it's almost impossible to do that since there isn't a dipstick under the hood (it's built into the plug).
I'm sure you haven't had problems before. But it's best to check fluid when the vehicle(any vehicle) is level. Your fluid level is going to be a hair off
I saw another video where you have to replace the transmission auxiliary pump inlet tube seal after pulling off the filter. Now that I’ve seen a few other videos I don’t see this same seal on the transmission. Have you ever heard of this seal? I can’t find it in the fords part site either.
Hello Roy, I believe that's for the vehicles equipped with the start stop feature. Some Fords use an auxiliary pump to keep transmission fluid pressure up so when you release the brake pedal and the engine turns back over, you have fluid moving through your transmission immediately. This can help prevent unnecessary wear and tear from the start stop feature. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Hello! I used a new gasket, however that's not necessary. Ford says the gasket is reusable, so you can save some money and keep yours. I have the pump linked in the description if you are interested. Also, make sure you read the first part of the description. I updated the correct filling procedure there. I will be coming out with another video going into more detail at some point in the next month or 2. Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks for the quick reply. I've been considering going to the dealer for all fluids but a lot of this seems doable in my driveway. Thanks for the tutorials!!!
hi. great video shots and awesome tips - i mean tricks! am following suit and using ur Amazon links to get parts, but was wondering if u need to put some thread locks on the pan bolts… Ford workshop manual doesn’t specify using thread locks but the torque spec listed is actually 80 lb-in, and not 98 lb-in as many seem to assume.
Hello Peace Warrior! I've heard Fords 6R140 (used in the Super Duty's) should be torqued to 80 inch lbs, however I've read the 6R80 in these trucks should be torqued anywhere between 96 and 120 inch lbs. Haynes recommends 120 inch lbs also, so that's what I would go with.
I got a 2010 ford explorer sporttrac with the 4.6 3V with the 6R80 trans. Thanks for the video. Been thinking about doing this but a bit scared to try.
Can you just use a Syphon pump to draw this out and then simply replace through the dipstick tube the same amount that you removed? I’ve done that on another transmission a few times and it was super easy to do
@TrickShiftGarage ok so this may be a dumb question, but was the plastic dipstick you checked atf level with there at the end contained inside the filler bolt you removed or was it an additional purchase one needs to check fluid level?
There is no such thing as a dumb question! And yes it was inside of the bolt. This is Fords cheap method of giving us a dipstick lol. I miss the days where a transmission dipstick was located under the hood.
The one I bought was from Dorman. I have a link to it in the description if you want to check it out. If it doesn't work, please let me know and I'll try to provide a different link.
So pretty much just fill it till it comes out and after it starts and shifts through the gears it should level out haha I’m gonna do mine soon. Everywhere I’ve called to have this service done it’s well over 300 dollars
Hello Kevin! Yes, that's pretty much it! The main thing is making sure the fluid warms up and travels through the gears. Just make sure you don't burn yourself! The catalytic converter is right next to it, so grab some gloves when you check it again. Good luck and thanks for watching! 🤟
Should disconnect the oil cooler line and pump all that in the pan out to get the old oil out of the torque converter. Repeat 2 more times to purge all the old oil. So like 18qts total.
Did you have the front tires of your F150 up on ramps when readding and checking the tranny fluid or was all four tires on the ground? Asking cuz I usually use ramps in the front and didn’t know if that little bit of lean from the front tires being up on ramps would make a difference on the tranny fluid level when checking it at the end
Yes, they were on ramps but I was on a slight incline too. So it was pretty level when I checked it. But you are correct. If the truck (or any vehicle for that matter) isn't level, it will give you a false reading on the dipstick.
This does not remove all the fluid, only about half. If you want to, you can do another fluid change about 10,000 miles after the first one and that should help get mostly new fluid in your transmission. Hope this helps! 🙏
Well I just tried this. I broke 5 of the 6 8MM bolts before I realized they were breaking off, instead of unscrewing. The seal between the pan and transmissions is probably still good, but I wouldn't trust it to drive very far.
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not sure which bolts you broke, but some of them you can access above. Try to grab a pair of locking pliers and clamp down on them and then turn. That should help you get some of them out.
@@TrickShiftGarage The bolts are the first 6 bolts your video says to remove...the ones in the back. It wouldn't do me any good to remove the broken ones if I don't have anything to replace them with.
@@panderson9561autozone would have bolts to replace them with. Take a bolt off & go up there & there should be a bolts section on the end of an aisle. Put the bolt in whichever hole it fits, it’ll tell you which bolts to buy. For the broken bolts, buy an extractor
Hi grate video. in my case my transmition in 2 difrents times stop to make the shifts I turn off the car and after to turn on the essue go away did you think it's gonna be a enough just to change oil an filter. One " mechanic" told me it's Gonna be nesessary change the valve body, the speed sensor, to fix the problem
Hello Cesar! Sorry for the delay. With 160k miles, I would say your mechanic may be correct. You may need to rebuild part of it. However, if I was in your shoes, I would change the fluid and add in Seafoam Trans Tune first. See if that can keep the transmission clean for about 10k miles. Then change it again. That may help save it in the long run. These transmissions are built really well, so you may be ok.
Hello Marathoner43! No, I did not use a gasket sealer. I did buy a new gasket for the pan, but supposedly the gaskets are reusable. As far as the bolt pattern, I just tried to go back and forth on opposite sides to ensure a snug fit.
would you happen to know how to change the output shaft speed sensor my truck throws a wrench light and doesn’t wanna go below 3rd or shift above 5th i can barely find any videos on it
Thanks Brian! New pan is holding up good, no leaks or issues but it's still early so we will see lol. I think it will be fine though because the gasket is oem.
@@TrickShiftGarage I will. We bought this truck for him about a month ago. It’s a 2013 F150 single cab long bed. It’s his first vehicle and he just turned 16 back in February. It was a one owner with 131k and it has the 3.7. He loves it and we’ve already upgraded the wheels and tires, new front and rear brakes, I installed a new a/c compressor, condenser and expansion valve, all new belts and hoses and we are updating all the front suspension components. He has installed new LED tail light housings, LED headlights and LED 3rd brake light. We are going to do this transmission service then install a new stereo system when he can figure out what he wants.
2014 f-150 here. The u arm is so close to the bolts, I can't fit anything in between. There's a gigantic heat shield welded to it. It's looking like I'm going to have to drop the entire exhaust to get to the bolts. I have about an inch of clearance in between the u arm and the bolts. Any ideas?
Hello Aaron, I believe this took me a couple of hours. But I also had to worry about lighting and camera angles. I believe this could easily be done in under an hour. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage oh ok I didn't see the drain plug. Aluminum pans usually are deeper and hold more fluid. And can dissipate heat more if towing a lot. And most have drain plugs as well. Otherwise just another expense. 😆
Thanks Michael! I did not have my engine running while checking. This has been a topic that has been brought up previously, and I know there are some people that feel it should be checked while the engine is running. However, I am going to change the fluid the exact same way I did in the video for as long as I have the truck and report back if I have any issues. I feel like this will be a good test to see if there will be issues with my method or not. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage it has to be running while checking level . Fluid gets sucked up into tranny while running. You are low . Not being a dick , it's just the correct way
Yea this has been a topic of discussion lately. If that's the case (and I'm not discounting it), then I'm curious why the fluid didn't come out when I took the dipstick out with the engine off. It was the original fluid and my first time changing it. I would imagine if a couple of quarts fit in while the engine is running, then the fluid would have spilled out of the dipstick hole.
I just recently brought a 2012 f150 xlt I checked my transmission fluid and it’s a little low right under the A mark and is brown like motor oil doesn’t smell burnt tho and doesn’t really shift bad also my truck is under warranty so I’m probably gonna just change the transmission oil. I heard that mercon vl turns that color under very little miles is that true ? I’m change the fluid and filter myself .. you think I should by my truck having 157 thousand miles ? it’s probably the original fluid . also we’re did you get that pan with a drain plug I want to install one on my truck … thanks and nice video I’m like and sub
Pretty much all transmission fluids change from red to a brown after driving around for thousands of miles. I don't think you have anything to worry about. The transmission pan is in the description of the video titled "Dorman Transmission Pan". That's where I bought mine. Also, make sure you read the description of the video. I have updated the correct way to fill these transmissions. Let me know if you have any questions! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGaragethanks bro … no shop would change the fluid by my truck having so many miles lol so I’m do it myself… I hear that just changing the fluid and not flushing it won’t harm anything but that’s mostly true for older transmissions , correct ? doesn’t seem as hard as my gmc sierra the exhaust pipe runs right under the pan I seen videos we’re you take the exhaust off much easier to get a pry bar and wiggle the pan pass the exhaust…
You can do it! And yes it's easier than a lot of other GM vehicles because of the exhaust. Dropping the pan and changing the fluid and filter should be just fine. If you want, you can always change it again within 20k miles to help get more of the old fluid out of there. And if you get the Dorman drain pan, you can just drain and fill. The filter needs to be changed every 60k miles though, so keep that in mind.
made a mess of my transmission oil change. Now I see the video . Definitely had too much fluid in mine. Started leaking when I pulled the plug/dipstick.
Hello Tim! This is one thing I've been worried about. Some people say you need to fill it while the engine is running, but I fear they will run into issues like you. I personally don't think filling while the engine is off is a bad thing at all. As long as the fluid is at the correct level when you check the dipstick, I think you will be just fine. These transmissions are built really well, and I know a lot of owners never fill them when the engine is running.
Ford manual suggests checking with vehicle running. When I changed these I always measured the amount coming out as a guide to what goes back in. I have always had to start vehicle and check while running to get same amount of transmission fluid back in.
I'm not doubting your method, but if that was the case, I wonder why the fluid doesn't leak immediately after taking the dipstick out? It's a very strange way of filling imo. Again, I'm not doubting it. But I'm going to be a test bed for this. I'm going to change this fluid the same way in the video for the life of the truck. At least this way we will know for sure if my method will destroy a transmission or not. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@Trick Shift Garage It is a horrible design in my opinion. I bought special high temp gloves just for these vehicles. Your transmission will operate with less fluid. I am curious if you are seeing higher temperatures in transmission.
@Car Survivalist Yea it really is. I haven't seen a difference in temperature. Maybe they suggest filling when the engine is running while towing? I haven't done any towing, so I can only speculate.
Great video! Reading the comments makes this so confusing. I have a 09 f150 with the 5.4L. How do I tell what transmission i have and what trans fluid to use??
Hey thanks for watching Nick! Your truck has the 6R80 transmission and you want to fill it with Mercon LV. Ford use to recommend a different transmission fluid, but has since changed to Mercon LV.
I haven't looked yet but should mine have a dip stick or I have to check it on the side? Also the reason I'm looking into this now is I just recently had a slip in reverse. They truck just turned over 200k and I'm not sure if it has ever been checked or serviced. I have owned it since 180k with zero problems. It only gets driven about once a month. I am hoping it is just low on fluid.... what do you think?
So you should have a dipstick, but I'm not 100% sure which one. I have heard that some have a dipstick under the hood, but since you have the 6R80, I would guess yours is similar to mine and it's the small dipstick under that fill port in the side of the transmission. Now for the difficult answer. I try not to tell people what they should do on these issues because I'm not a mechanic. And there has been a big debate on what people recommend when it comes to transmissions that have a lot of miles without changing the fluid. But I will give you my current perspective on how I view this topic and what I would do if that was my transmission. I used to believe you should leave a transmission alone if the fluid has never been changed. I was told on numerous occasions that the detergents in the new fluid will loosen any metal shavings or particles and cause them to get lodged, and then ruin your transmission. However, I believe those transmissions were probably on their way out due to having old fluid in there. So, I'm not sold on the idea that new fluid will cause the transmission to fail. In fact, recently my buddy on this channel changed the transmission fluid in his Nissan Altima (CVT) for the first time with over 200k miles. So far, he hasn't had any issues. I'm not an expert on this by any means, but if I bought a vehicle with over 200k miles, I would definitely drop the pan and then refill. I don't believe in transmission flushes, just refill and then do the same thing 30k miles. This will ensure you get 90% of the old/bad fluid out of there. I know this is a pretty generic answer, but I hope this helps in some way or another.
Ok so I just check it. No dip stick up by the motor. Its on the side beside the pan. With the trans up to temp and motor off it shows it is low (about 1in up on the sick). With the motor at idle the dip stick is dry.... how much should I add and you say check with motor off right? The dip stick says "check hot - idling in park"
I recommend checking with it doing what the dipstick says. I didn't do it while it was running, but I had just finished driving and it was hot. Be careful, the catalytic converter is right there. Wear some heat resistant gloves if you have them. The reason I didn't check it while it was idling is because I had never heard of doing it that way before. I have always just dropped the pan on every vehicle I had. And I am curious why it needs to be running, as fluid doesn't flow out of the fill port after I removed the dipstick. It's a very strange way to fill in my opinion. But...since that's what the dipstick says, I would just go ahead and do it that way.
You could get a Transmission Flush at your local Ford Dealer, but I decided to just drop the pan and replace the fluid in there. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage I've been a dealership tech for a couple decades till I got out of the business in 2005. I know the older Ford trucks had a drain plug for the torque converter also so you can get more old fluid out. I wasn't sure on the 2010 and up did that still.
@@TrickShiftGarage I've just finished however I forgot to place the magnet back in and one of the bolts to the Pan are stripped. How important is this magnet? Ty for the clear guide!
That magnet is actually very very important. You're going to have to get it back in there. It catches all metal particles and shavings from your transmission that could clog and ruin your transmissions internals. I'm sorry brother, but that really needs to go back in there.
Honestly I have no idea. I don't want to say yes, and then you have an issue with your transmission. I'm not sure 2 weeks is long enough to cause damage, but I'm still not 100% sure either. I'm sorry man, I wish I could provide you with a better answer.
@TrickShiftGarage I need to do mine it's been 300,000 Trans has 609,000 miles on it along with the motor I'm just wanting to do it myself and was wondering if at idle speed do you just leave the dip stick in when cranking the truck or should the cap be on the dip stick just wondering thanks for the video
Wow that's a lot of miles! And what I would do is fill the fluid until it starts spilling out, and then leave the cap and the dipstick in place until it gets up to operating temperature. Then, you can remove it and top off the fluid.
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What do you think about an aftermarket dip stick and tube?
I was thinking about buying one a year ago, but never did. The one I was looking at was around $200. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it again and link it.
@@TrickShiftGarage I have kinda looked, and people are saying to get the one that screws on at the top. Because it's a closed system, it just didn't include the line markings. I'm planning on getting one and an aftermarket pan with the drain plug.
Interesting. I didn't know about that. Either way let me know how it goes! I would like to hear about it when you do.
Recently decided to do this myself on my 2014 F-150 with the 5.0. This vid was most helpful. Not gonna lie this took me a LONG time to complete. Way more than I anticipated, but it gave me a great sense of accomplishment doing it myself. I am slowly trying to become my own mechanic for as many things as possible to avoid the shops.
Hey thanks Robby, we are glad it helped! Doing maintenance yourself can save you a ton of money, which is especially important right now because of inflation. Thanks for watching and let us know if there is anything else you need help with! 🤟
Your first transmission pan drop is going to take a long time. My first was on my 04 Ram 1500 with the 545RFE transmission. Took me like 3 or 4 hours the first time. Was like 30 minutes each time afterward. Great job on learning to do your own maintenance!
My shop wanted $600 to do this. I think I can find time for that!
You can do it!
Use pump fluid extractor from harbor freight to suck out most of fluid with the narrow flexible hose it comes with, this prevents leakage/spillage when dropping the pan, once pan is off suck remaining fluid in pan. The extractor has level indicator so you know exactly how much is removed and replace with new fluid. Use a 2 gallon bug sprayer from walmart or wherever and fill with correct amount of fluid, cut the plastic tip off wand. I bought a 2 foot cheap air wand at harbor freight and put it in vice, used a mapp torch to heat and bend it into a hook and I attached it to bug sprayer, it stays hooked into hole for ez refill.
Great advice! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Hopefully it helps someone! 🙏
Adding to my tools list thanks m8 doing this next weekend
which one?
Any of the holt fluid extractor, comes with narrow suction tube. I used the one that extracts and dispenses.
You know what, i got more confident in changing it myself instead of paying hundreds of dollars for someone to do it. Thank you for this useful video. Hello from Wichita Ks.
Anytime! Let us know how it goes! 🤟
Man thanks a million...... I was intimidated by the thought of this job at 1st with my own 2013 F-150 3.7 Liter with a whopping 260K miles and counting on it...
Couple of comments for anyone. One who wants to do their own transmission service, he used paper towels to wipe the pan out and the filter connection which isn't bad. But when after you clean the pan ideally you should use compressed air, but above all, be sure not to use rags because they deposit lint on the surfaces of things. You can't really see it but it does and that will eventually wash and get up into the filter. In addition, many of the Ford products and other manufacturers have reusable gaskets. They're usually rubber with ribs on them and they'll have metal washers embedded in them around the bolts to stop the bolt at a certain point, so never throw those away. They're reusable. Oftentimes the filter kit will give you some cheap gasket that's not designed to work the way the original one is
You sir deserve the award of smartest man on earth.
Just changed my fluid. The tinfoil trick was amazing!
Awesome! Glad it worked for you! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! 🤟
Smarter sucking fluid out with a fluid extractor
You can, but the aluminum foil worked just fine.
Helpful video of yours.. I just did the trans service on my 2013 ford f150 fx4 today. 6r80 trans. I have done a lot of trans services on my vehicles over the years but this was the first for this truck. Very easy as I mentioned. Drove the truck to get the trans to 165 degrees. Lowered the pan and drained the oil. The filter came down with the pan as was expected. Cleaned the pan and magnet and wiped down the socket inside the trans where the filter fits in. This helps keep the new filter in place as you lift the clean pan with the reused Motorcraft gasket in place.. Put five qts of Mercon LV in and started the truck and shifted through the gears. Left it running and Checked the dipstick level. ( short dipstick alongside trans on the passenger side) and it was low at 145 degrees. Added another 2 qts and it is now almost up the B hashmark ( which is the full mark at 180 degrees operating temp) , again check the oil level while it is running in Park.. Going forward I will check the trans oil every time I do an oil change. By the way, I used a 3 foot flexible hose ( from a dishwasher discharge) and funnel to add the trans oil. Much easier than pumping the oil from underneath the truck..
David that's a great idea! After a couple of quarts, you get tired real quick lol. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Was there enough gravity from a funnel to feed into the tube into the trans? I'm about to do this service - I am not looking forward to filling this thing lol
@@TrickShiftGaragehow the trany works after that oil change brother
@andryjcisneros2334 mine has been working perfect. No issues.
@@TrickShiftGarage thank you sir
I came across this today....totally by chance. My 4x4 F150 is being serviced for this as we speak. I understand what the mechanics were talking about when I dropped it off yesterday. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Real nice video. Lots of good camera shots. Ford really did a disservice to its customers by not having a traditional under the hood dipstick to check the fluid level. There are after market dip stick kits, but they are over $200! In one service manual, I read that the fluid level should be checked when the transmission is at normal operating temperature while running. That becomes a a hell of a task to not burn yourself on the cat converter. I think what you did was fine, If the level is at the bottom of A while cold, it should expand to the B mark when its hot.
Thank you I really appreciate the kind words! And I totally agree. A dipstick may cost them less than $1 to put in all of these trucks. I know I would gladly pay an extra dollar to have one.
I think I may eventually buy the aftermarket dipstick, but I'm also having a hard time throwing $200 at it right now. Especially for something that should already be on the vehicle from the factory.
Thanks for watching, we really appreciate it!
@@TrickShiftGarage Yes, this transmission requires a sealed and locking dipstick because the transmission operates under vacuum. The after market dipstick assembly cost in Canada is closer to $300, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Ford could have provided it for $20 bucks.
Just did this job on my 14 f150 2 weekends ago.
Take dipstick out.
Use a fluid extractor, put hose in fill port and suck the fluid out first!
So much easier
Great!
Thanks for doing it on the ground with a jack and not a lift. That's exactly how I have to do mine.
Anytime! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Newbie on cars. Newbie subscriber. Thanks for teaching us what "dads" don't
Any time I do a transmission job and it does not have a drain plug I just drill a 3/8 hole in lowest part of pan to drain. Saves big on mess, then I tack weld a nut inside and install a drain plug.
That's another way to do it lol. Having a drain plug is so convenient on transmission pans. Thanks for watching! 🤟
As soon as you mentioned trick shift at the beginning because I'm new to this channel it reminded me of my moroso transmission fluid that I used in my turbo hydramatic 400 back in the late seventies and it was brutal and could handle 690 horsepower naturally aspirated at the time...
That's amazing! I found out about that transmission fluid when googling our channel. Definitely an awesome transmission fluid to use in those 400's! Thanks for watching Wayne! 🤟
Dude, if not for you and your video, I wouldn’t have known about that Dorman pan with the drain plug. We just bought a 14 Navigator that I planned on swapping all fluids out to baseline the maintenance on it. The 3X pan drop and refill transmission service will be SO much easier after dropping the OEM pan (and changing the filter of course) for the 2 subsequent drain and fills.
As for the video itself, I really appreciated your positive vibe and enthusiasm. It makes for an easier to watch video. Great work! Subscribed!
Hey thanks Brandon w
I appreciate the kind words! I am glad the video helped! Thanks for watching!
@@TrickShiftGarage Hey brother, just completed the pan drop, filter change, and new pan and gasket installed. Filled it with a gallon of Valvoline maxlife followed by just shy of 2 quarts of AMSOIL Fuel Efficient (their version of low viscosity) ATF. Even though it’s only the first volley of fluid changes on this transmission, it already shifts a lot more precisely…and ironically the ‘Gator coasts easier, lol.
At 140k miles, the fluid in that pan was NASTY! No big metal flakes, just that fine mush stuck on the magnet though. I’ve got just shy of 22 quarts of the AMSOIL ATF on the shelf. Going to do a drain and refill each time I fill up with the next 2 tanks of gas, then once more when I’m due for an oil change.
Couldn’t have done it without your video!
That's a great idea Brandon! That should help prolong the life of it for sure. Glad to hear it helped! Thanks for watching! 🤟
I bought a 2012 Navigator a year ago and a Ford dealer was able to confirm from the V.I.N. number, that the previous owner had serviced and changed transmission fluid at the $30K mile mark, as required by warranty. I'm at the 92K miles mark now and ready to do a drain & fill very soon to confirm a maintenance baseline. I'm definitely going to buy the Dorman pan with the drain plug to make future changes easier.
Excellent video. Pro tip is use a kiddie pool underneath to catch fluid.
That will definitely help keep the ground clean! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Exactly what I used today.😂
If you pop off a trans cooler line in the front under the radiator, you can pump out the remaining 8 quarts of old fluid by starting the truck and cycling the shift selector. Just keep topping off the transmission as you go so it does not suck dry. When it comes out bright red, you’re done.
I've been really thinking about doing a video on how to do that, but I need to do some more research.
Do you know where I can find a write-up of this procedure?
Very helpful and concise video. One of the bolts at the rear of the pan was rounded and would not come off. I believe the threads of those bolts are exposed to the elements. I might try a 1/4" drive wobble extension and impact driver but if that doesn;t work I think I'm SOL.
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Let me know how it goes!
Excellent video and right to the point. Checking this under the vehicle? Checking it well running? Checking it next to 'hot' exhaust components? Unbelievable a so called 'engineer' would design anything this bad and even worse for Ford to manufacture it.
I couldn't have said it any better Lance. You are 100% on point with that comment. We appreciate you watching! 🙏
fyi you can cold-fill/check with it just slightly warm...fluid should just barely hit the crosshatch area. At operating temp, fluid expansion should put it 3/4 or more of the way into the crosshatch, meaning it's good to go.
Thanks for the video, had some big repairs between my 2017 F150 and my wife's 2013 Explorer that I actually had to take to a shop since it was out of my scope. Glad to see this this one is fairly easy. I have around 75K on the F150 and tow fairly light loads with it constantly and wanted to get this done in the next couple of months. Then it will be onto the Explorer which doesn't look fun with the transfer case sine I have the awd model.
Yea this isn't too bad. I'll be doing an updated video for the transmission fluid, this time showing exactly how to fill it and how to tell when it's perfectly filled. Make sure you look in the description of this video as I have updated information in there. Let me know if you have any questions!
Great video and slick trick using the foil 👍
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Got parts on the way, you made it look easy. Hoping it goes that way for me. Other videos show where 4 qts, 41/2 qts Then checking it and they are always putting more in. That had me confused, I am going to use your method, makes sense to me. I have a 2010 Ford f150 flex. With 150000 on it and just had the engine swapped, and was told I need to have my tranny serviced. Priced it and OMG expensive. I figured at that price I can get the parts, fluid, and tools for less and do it myself. My hard time is on the fluid level getting it right the first time.
So, you will need to keep filling when the transmission gets warm. I added that part to the description of the video because I didn't realize it needed to be done. You will be able to fit another quart or 2 in the transmission with it running while the fluid is warm.
Let me know how it goes! 🙏
It took me a few hours to change mine because I'm just slow. I thought I only needed four quarts but I ended up using seven. The truck was leveled and the engine was running when I was checking it and since I didn't drain seven quarts, I'm guessing my tranny was slipping because the fluid was low? And that aluminum foil trick was ingenious. I spilled more fluid refilling it than removing the pan thanks to the foil.
That's great man I'm glad to hear that! And I'm glad you found the aluminum foil trick helpful! 🤟
and done thanks mate 😎🤙 did it with an automatic ATF pump all 7q in less then a min went threw the gears turned it off re checked the dip stick and water pressure the undercarriage so nothing catches fire while i left it idling for 30 minutes turned it off for an hour then drove home for 1 hour everything went smoothly i was just wishing bought that same pan you got would of man life easier the next time i do the fluid change but what ever the point is that its taken care of ✌️
Awesome man glad you got it done! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! 🙏
Awesome Tutorial!!!! Thank so Much for sharing, lots of wasted time with most videos that teach nothing 🤦🏻♀️!!!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Why couldn’t the dipstick be under the hood? Smh Thank you Ford 😡
I couldn't agree more Dazmon! The dipstick and coil covers should have both came with these trucks from the factory. Ford can be irritating at times.
I though I was going crazy until I serched it up
Ford makes some boneheaded decisions. This was one of them.
Saved the cheapskates 37 cents
David you are correct! Ford needed that extra money for...whatever lol. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Thank you for this video! I also got the Dorman pan that you got but unfortunately almost half the bolts would not line up! We are talking maybe a mm or a fraction of, but unless you drill or file them out, the transmission pan bolts will get hung up and possibly cross thread. Unfortunately I was not in a situation where I could finagle with the pan so I ended up using the existing Ford one which is much heavier and high quality
This was for a 2017 Expedition 2WD*^
Oh man I'm sorry! I figured this pan would work for almost all 6R-80 Transmissions. Good thing you still had your old pan!
@@TrickShiftGarage ya know. They should work for all these! It was fractionally off by a mm which for us DIY wrenchers we can “improvise” but by engineering or pro standards that’s off by a country mile! I haven’t met a mechanic face to face yet who likes Dorman. I told my good friend what happened because he used to work for Dorman as early as this past spring! He lol’d and wasn’t surprised. It’s mind boggling what comes through engineering there. If it didn’t hit it ships he said. Unreal
Yea man, I've come across quite a few people that have not had any luck with Dorman products. Which I was shocked at first because I haven't had a single issue. But, I'm going to be cautious now because a lot of people have had issues.
I also changed the pan, but did a little hole to the old one to avoid any oil mess
Good video. Clear and informative….straight to the point. And you got me to sub with the little outro. Good job guys!
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If your putting a new pan on, just drill a hole in bottom of old one to drain. Keeps it clean.
You could for sure!
Video is great! Did everything less than an hour if you don't count waiting for all the fluid to drain.
Awesome! Glad you got it done! 👍
Excellent video! Right down to the pan bolts torque specs!! As long as the trans fluid is warm and circulated by going through the gear patterns, Does the engine need to be running or just observe the A and B marks on the dip stick? Thanks for sharing!! Thanks for the Links you provided too!!! Appreciate that very much.
Hello! Yes, the engine needs to be running and you need to watch your transmission temp gauge. Once it gets up to operating temperature (this will take longer than the engine reaching normal operating temp), then you can continue to fill.
The dipstick is odd. I'm not sure why there is an A or a B, but from what I've read you are better off filling it up to the top line. Once you get there, put the dipstick and cap back on, fasten it, and then you can shut the engine off. Don't shut the engine off while the dipstick and cap are off as this will cause fluid to leak out.
Trick of the trade, capture fluid into a measure bucket and just put the exact amount back in.
We never check fluid levels when we do them lol, unless of course you suspect there is a reason to.
Sweet video, thanks for helping me quickly quote this one.
Unless they have a leak
@@SarahOpalPearson4JesusofNazare Exactly, which is usually 0% of the time
i noticed you replaced the oem pan with an after market with a drain plug. That makes life alot easier. Why didnt ford make it to where trans changes were as easy as oil changes?
Definitely makes it easier. Personally, I think Ford (as well as some other automakers) do this to discourage owners from doing the maintenance on their vehicles. They want people to go to the dealer. And honestly, it works for the most part. Most people don't want to spend the extra time doing it themselves, so they just take it to the dealer. But you can save a boatload of money by doing it yourself. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Khoa! We appreciate it! 🤟
Thank you for the video was quoted 780 to do the job I’m buying tools at harbor freight and doing this next weekend cheers
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
Also, make sure you look at the description of this video. I have information on how to properly fill these transmissions.
Thank you for your video…I followed step by step and yes… when I check the level engine off it was on the mark but with the engine ON and warm I add 2 litters more !!!! did I do it wright ?
Yes! You did it right!
Hello, I’m planning on doing the tranny fluid on my 2014 F150 this fall. Great video! I have one question… did you jack the truck at all? Is it necessary to jack the truck?
I put it on ramps because I was on a slight incline. It also gave me more room underneath. I guess it's possible to do it with jack stands and/or ramps, but it would be difficult.
If you use jackstands and/or ramps, just make sure your truck is level to give you an accurate reading when filling.
@@TrickShiftGarage once again... great content! Thank you for the reply! Subscription earned.
Hey thanks man we appreciate it! 🙏
great video definitely took a couple notes the newer the vehicle the more work it seems makes me miss the 1986 5.0 "ghost" might have to get another one
Yea it's definitely different. Also, make sure you check the description. There is more information there on how to properly fill these transmissions (if you haven't already).
Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes when you do yours! 🤟
Man, that was a GREAT video and very easy to follow...Thank you 🫡
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment Rob! We appreciate it! 🤟
Just changed mine.thanks for sharing video.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Okay let me help you guys out.... After you add 4 to 5 course of oil turn your freaking engine on and then continue to fill as it's running.... If you turn it off it'll spill out... But as it's running fill until it starts to spill out. Once it does now you have the proper level.... But do not turn off the engine while you have this cap otherwise it'll just come pouring out
Yep, that's in the description. And you need to get the fluid up to temp first before you start filling.
Great Job! Thanks look easy but not share I want to do this. What if the transmissions don't work after I'm done.
If the transmission doesn't work after you are done, then it was already broken to begin with. Changing the fluid the proper way will not ruin your transmission. You can do this!
Let us know who it goes! 🤟
It's crazy because It says that it's overfilled when cold. And when you turn it on and you check it while idling, it's barely halfways. I put a little less than six quarts
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thx!!!
Anytime, thanks for watching! 🤟
Just used your trick and it helped out a lot! Thanks for the great video!
Armando that's great to hear! We are glad it helped you out! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Great work and guide! More pls ... 😅
Thanks!
We have an updated video for this transmission coming out sometime next month, so stay tuned!
Man, awesome video. Very helpful. Can't wait for more content
Thanks Terry, we appreciate it! I have a lot planned for my 2013 F150, so stay tuned! 🤟
Thank you for the overall one of the best to date on my end an overall amazing video, definitely have my sharing support. Quick question where can I find what you used to pump the new Trans fluid back into pan?
Thank you! The pump should be in the description of the video! Thanks for watching! 🤟
after replacing 6 quarts out of almost 14 your drain plug is a nice idea , i want to do also . I would drive about 30 days and replace 5 quart again....and then again in 30 days
Definitely Pierre! That way you get all new fluid in there. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Changing fluid frequently would be equivalent to doing a transmission fluid flush, rather than a drain & fill. A full fluid flush is never recommended unless it's a very low mileage vehicle. My transmission fluid was flushed and filled by Ford at 30K miles, but Ford recommends only a drain & fill at 100K miles and every 60K miles there after.
Great video, did you make sure truck is on level ground when putting fluid back in? I see the truck is on ramps.
Thanks! Truck was pretty much level as the ground was slightly inclined. I'm not sure if it was perfect, but it was close.
I’ve always heard the fluid should be checked when it’s warm and the vehicle is running . The fluid expands as it warms up.
Absolutely! I have it updated in the description and will also be coming out with an updated video talking about this.
Sorry to bother but can you write the pound pressure on the bolts please? I really like the video thank you a lot.
I believe they are 10 foot pounds.
Smart, I was wondering why there was no drain. Where'd you get that pan? Ford was like let's make this as dangerous and inconvenient as possible lol.
I got the pan on Amazon from a company called Dorman. It works great! But that drain bolt should have come from the factory lol.
Very helpful. At what mileage did you change the transmission fluid? Thanks.
I believe I was around 80,000. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Great video, incredibly helpful.
Question for you guys. I have a 2013 f150 v8 5.0L. I put the front wheels on ramps, drained the pan (foil idea was clutch), cleaned it, replaced filter, put the pan back, and then pumped just shy of 6 quarts into the transmission until it started to overflow (still up on ramps). Took it off the ramps, let id idle for 15 mins, cool for 5, then checked fluid level. Why would it still be showing low? It's not even reaching the "B". I know the obvious thing is to add more fluid, but I really don't want to risk overfilling and dealing with that issue.
Definitely add more fluid. And many people have informed me you need to check and top off the fluid while the engine is running (and the transmission fluid needs to be warm). You will need heat resistant gloves as the plug is right next to the catalytic converter. Don't worry about overfilling, it's almost impossible to do that since there isn't a dipstick under the hood (it's built into the plug).
@@TrickShiftGarage Man, i cannot thank you enough, not just for the video, but for the quick and helpful response. You just saved me a lot of money!
Absolutely man, glad to help! Thanks for watching! 🤟
I don't know why... but my 2010 F-150 4.6 engine have a transmission fluid dipstick under hood... I like it....
Ford likes you and hates me lol. Thanks for watching Pedro! 🤟
Thank you for making this video. I will be doing mine next weekend.
Thank you for watching Jose! Good luck changing next weekend and if you run into any trouble, just comment below and we will get back to you asap.
I'm sure you haven't had problems before. But it's best to check fluid when the vehicle(any vehicle) is level. Your fluid level is going to be a hair off
My truck as pretty level since the ground had a slight slope to it. But yes, it needs to be level to read properly. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Oh, I forgot to ask, is the truck level when adding the fluid and checking the level? Thanks again!
And yes, make sure the truck is level or it will give you an inaccurate reading. Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes brother! 🤟
Hi, excellent video. Could you send me the link for the pump that you was using, please? Thank you
Hello Pablo! Here is the link: amzn.to/3T5n2oH
Thanks for watching!
Hi. Thank you.
Anytime! Thanks for watching! 🤟
What about gluing the gasket in place before returning the pan into place. That way the gasket doesn't move?.
No, definitely not. The gasket will fall into place when you get every bolt in. You never want to use glue on gaskets.
What a modern way of doing it
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I saw another video where you have to replace the transmission auxiliary pump inlet tube seal after pulling off the filter. Now that I’ve seen a few other videos I don’t see this same seal on the transmission. Have you ever heard of this seal? I can’t find it in the fords part site either.
Hello Roy, I believe that's for the vehicles equipped with the start stop feature. Some Fords use an auxiliary pump to keep transmission fluid pressure up so when you release the brake pedal and the engine turns back over, you have fluid moving through your transmission immediately. This can help prevent unnecessary wear and tear from the start stop feature.
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Do you use the original gasket or do you buy a new one? This is very helpful. Also, a link to that pump would be cool
Hello! I used a new gasket, however that's not necessary. Ford says the gasket is reusable, so you can save some money and keep yours.
I have the pump linked in the description if you are interested. Also, make sure you read the first part of the description. I updated the correct filling procedure there. I will be coming out with another video going into more detail at some point in the next month or 2.
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@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks for the quick reply. I've been considering going to the dealer for all fluids but a lot of this seems doable in my driveway. Thanks for the tutorials!!!
Absolutely! Let me know how it goes brother! 🤟
Great video! How are you liking that new dorman pan? Have you done a drain and fill with that new pan?
So far it's been great. No leaks, but I have not done a drain and fill yet. I'll provide a video when I do, so stay tuned! And thanks for watching! 🤟
Great tutorial, lots of helpful tips
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Thank you for the great video, i appreciate your tips and tricks 👍
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hi. great video shots and awesome tips - i mean tricks! am following suit and using ur Amazon links to get parts, but was wondering if u need to put some thread locks on the pan bolts… Ford workshop manual doesn’t specify using thread locks but the torque spec listed is actually 80 lb-in, and not 98 lb-in as many seem to assume.
Hello Peace Warrior! I've heard Fords 6R140 (used in the Super Duty's) should be torqued to 80 inch lbs, however I've read the 6R80 in these trucks should be torqued anywhere between 96 and 120 inch lbs. Haynes recommends 120 inch lbs also, so that's what I would go with.
@@TrickShiftGarage thanks.
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I got a 2010 ford explorer sporttrac with the 4.6 3V with the 6R80 trans. Thanks for the video. Been thinking about doing this but a bit scared to try.
You got this! 🤟
Can you just use a Syphon pump to draw this out and then simply replace through the dipstick tube the same amount that you removed? I’ve done that on another transmission a few times and it was super easy to do
Yea I guess you could, but it would take longer. That's why I bought a pan with a drain bolt. Makes changing the fluid a lot easier.
@TrickShiftGarage ok so this may be a dumb question, but was the plastic dipstick you checked atf level with there at the end contained inside the filler bolt you removed or was it an additional purchase one needs to check fluid level?
There is no such thing as a dumb question! And yes it was inside of the bolt. This is Fords cheap method of giving us a dipstick lol. I miss the days where a transmission dipstick was located under the hood.
You may have mentioned it in the video but what brand of oil pan did you use? Want to have a drain plug for future.
The one I bought was from Dorman. I have a link to it in the description if you want to check it out. If it doesn't work, please let me know and I'll try to provide a different link.
So pretty much just fill it till it comes out and after it starts and shifts through the gears it should level out haha
I’m gonna do mine soon. Everywhere I’ve called to have this service done it’s well over 300 dollars
Hello Kevin! Yes, that's pretty much it! The main thing is making sure the fluid warms up and travels through the gears. Just make sure you don't burn yourself! The catalytic converter is right next to it, so grab some gloves when you check it again. Good luck and thanks for watching! 🤟
Should disconnect the oil cooler line and pump all that in the pan out to get the old oil out of the torque converter. Repeat 2 more times to purge all the old oil. So like 18qts total.
Very interesting David. I'll have to look into this. Thanks for taking the time to comment! 🤟
The way Toyota 4Runner owners have been doing this for a long time. Pull 2 quarts out, add two quarts; continue until fresh red comes out.
Did you have the front tires of your F150 up on ramps when readding and checking the tranny fluid or was all four tires on the ground? Asking cuz I usually use ramps in the front and didn’t know if that little bit of lean from the front tires being up on ramps would make a difference on the tranny fluid level when checking it at the end
Yes, they were on ramps but I was on a slight incline too. So it was pretty level when I checked it.
But you are correct. If the truck (or any vehicle for that matter) isn't level, it will give you a false reading on the dipstick.
How you made sure, it really flush out all fluid, specially, the one inside torque converter ?. Thanks for answering. BR.
This does not remove all the fluid, only about half. If you want to, you can do another fluid change about 10,000 miles after the first one and that should help get mostly new fluid in your transmission. Hope this helps! 🙏
Just siphon off the fluid from the dipstick/fill hole! No foil needed, just a few feet of 3/8 tubing
That works too!
Well I just tried this. I broke 5 of the 6 8MM bolts before I realized they were breaking off, instead of unscrewing. The seal between the pan and transmissions is probably still good, but I wouldn't trust it to drive very far.
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not sure which bolts you broke, but some of them you can access above. Try to grab a pair of locking pliers and clamp down on them and then turn. That should help you get some of them out.
@@TrickShiftGarage The bolts are the first 6 bolts your video says to remove...the ones in the back. It wouldn't do me any good to remove the broken ones if I don't have anything to replace them with.
@@panderson9561autozone would have bolts to replace them with. Take a bolt off & go up there & there should be a bolts section on the end of an aisle. Put the bolt in whichever hole it fits, it’ll tell you which bolts to buy.
For the broken bolts, buy an extractor
Hi grate video. in my case my transmition in 2 difrents times stop to make the shifts I turn off the car and after to turn on the essue go away did you think it's gonna be a enough just to change oil an filter. One " mechanic" told me it's Gonna be nesessary change the valve body, the speed sensor, to fix the problem
Hello Cesar,
How many miles do you have on your truck?
@@TrickShiftGarage 160k mi
Do you know if the fluid has been changed before? Or is the original fluid still in the transmission?
@@TrickShiftGarage I buyed use I think it's the original
Hello Cesar! Sorry for the delay. With 160k miles, I would say your mechanic may be correct. You may need to rebuild part of it.
However, if I was in your shoes, I would change the fluid and add in Seafoam Trans Tune first. See if that can keep the transmission clean for about 10k miles. Then change it again. That may help save it in the long run. These transmissions are built really well, so you may be ok.
Did you use any kind of gasket sealer on the gasket? Also, is there a specific pattern the bolts should be tightened in?
Hello Marathoner43! No, I did not use a gasket sealer. I did buy a new gasket for the pan, but supposedly the gaskets are reusable.
As far as the bolt pattern, I just tried to go back and forth on opposite sides to ensure a snug fit.
would you happen to know how to change the output shaft speed sensor my truck throws a wrench light and doesn’t wanna go below 3rd or shift above 5th i can barely find any videos on it
Unfortunately no I do not. Someone else mentioned it awhile ago and I've searched for it but I have no idea how to fix it. Sorry brother.
Great video buddy 👍🏻
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The truck has to be running up to temperature to properly check your fluid level
Yep! It's been added to the description of the video.
did you change the oil pan so you now have a drain plug I noticed the new pan has a drain plug maybe you mentioned it in the video.
Yep that's exactly why I changed the pan! It's going to make changing the fluid a lot easier next time! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Thank you so much going to try this later on my own 🙏
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Great video!! New subscriber. How is that pan holding up? Do you like it or any problems? Thx.
Thanks Brian! New pan is holding up good, no leaks or issues but it's still early so we will see lol. I think it will be fine though because the gasket is oem.
@@TrickShiftGarage sounds great!!! My son and I are doing this to his in the next week or so when we get parts in. Thx again.
Awesome man, let me know how it goes!
@@TrickShiftGarage I will. We bought this truck for him about a month ago. It’s a 2013 F150 single cab long bed. It’s his first vehicle and he just turned 16 back in February. It was a one owner with 131k and it has the 3.7. He loves it and we’ve already upgraded the wheels and tires, new front and rear brakes, I installed a new a/c compressor, condenser and expansion valve, all new belts and hoses and we are updating all the front suspension components. He has installed new LED tail light housings, LED headlights and LED 3rd brake light. We are going to do this transmission service then install a new stereo system when he can figure out what he wants.
what the name of the tool used in pumping the transmission fluid
It's a siphon. I have it linked in the description if you want that exact siphon.
2014 f-150 here. The u arm is so close to the bolts, I can't fit anything in between. There's a gigantic heat shield welded to it. It's looking like I'm going to have to drop the entire exhaust to get to the bolts. I have about an inch of clearance in between the u arm and the bolts. Any ideas?
Great job. Whats the total time to do this and be complete to running ? 30min ? More ?
Hello Aaron, I believe this took me a couple of hours. But I also had to worry about lighting and camera angles. I believe this could easily be done in under an hour.
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Why did you do a new stock pan? I missed it i guess... Why not a aluminum finned pan?
I wanted a pan that had a drain plug.
What's the benefit to an aluminum finned pan?
@@TrickShiftGarage oh ok I didn't see the drain plug.
Aluminum pans usually are deeper and hold more fluid. And can dissipate heat more if towing a lot. And most have drain plugs as well. Otherwise just another expense. 😆
Lol I gotcha. These trucks have very a very good cooling system, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's why the 6R-80 lasts so long.
Great video. Good work. Did not mention if engine on for final fluid level check.
Thanks Michael! I did not have my engine running while checking. This has been a topic that has been brought up previously, and I know there are some people that feel it should be checked while the engine is running. However, I am going to change the fluid the exact same way I did in the video for as long as I have the truck and report back if I have any issues. I feel like this will be a good test to see if there will be issues with my method or not.
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@@TrickShiftGarage it has to be running while checking level . Fluid gets sucked up into tranny while running. You are low . Not being a dick , it's just the correct way
Yea this has been a topic of discussion lately. If that's the case (and I'm not discounting it), then I'm curious why the fluid didn't come out when I took the dipstick out with the engine off. It was the original fluid and my first time changing it. I would imagine if a couple of quarts fit in while the engine is running, then the fluid would have spilled out of the dipstick hole.
@@TrickShiftGaragebecause it was underfilled from the factory . Mine was almost 2 quarts low from factory .
I have a lot of trouble believing that.
I just recently brought a 2012 f150 xlt I checked my transmission fluid and it’s a little low right under the A mark and is brown like motor oil doesn’t smell burnt tho and doesn’t really shift bad also my truck is under warranty so I’m probably gonna just change the transmission oil. I heard that mercon vl turns that color under very little miles is that true ? I’m change the fluid and filter myself .. you think I should by my truck having 157 thousand miles ? it’s probably the original fluid . also we’re did you get that pan with a drain plug I want to install one on my truck … thanks and nice video I’m like and sub
Pretty much all transmission fluids change from red to a brown after driving around for thousands of miles. I don't think you have anything to worry about.
The transmission pan is in the description of the video titled "Dorman Transmission Pan". That's where I bought mine.
Also, make sure you read the description of the video. I have updated the correct way to fill these transmissions. Let me know if you have any questions! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGaragethanks bro … no shop would change the fluid by my truck having so many miles lol so I’m do it myself… I hear that just changing the fluid and not flushing it won’t harm anything but that’s mostly true for older transmissions , correct ? doesn’t seem as hard as my gmc sierra the exhaust pipe runs right under the pan I seen videos we’re you take the exhaust off much easier to get a pry bar and wiggle the pan pass the exhaust…
You can do it! And yes it's easier than a lot of other GM vehicles because of the exhaust. Dropping the pan and changing the fluid and filter should be just fine. If you want, you can always change it again within 20k miles to help get more of the old fluid out of there. And if you get the Dorman drain pan, you can just drain and fill.
The filter needs to be changed every 60k miles though, so keep that in mind.
Good video . Thanks you.
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made a mess of my transmission oil change. Now I see the video . Definitely had too much fluid in mine. Started leaking when I pulled the plug/dipstick.
Hello Tim! This is one thing I've been worried about. Some people say you need to fill it while the engine is running, but I fear they will run into issues like you.
I personally don't think filling while the engine is off is a bad thing at all. As long as the fluid is at the correct level when you check the dipstick, I think you will be just fine. These transmissions are built really well, and I know a lot of owners never fill them when the engine is running.
Ford manual suggests checking with vehicle running. When I changed these I always measured the amount coming out as a guide to what goes back in. I have always had to start vehicle and check while running to get same amount of transmission fluid back in.
I'm not doubting your method, but if that was the case, I wonder why the fluid doesn't leak immediately after taking the dipstick out? It's a very strange way of filling imo.
Again, I'm not doubting it. But I'm going to be a test bed for this. I'm going to change this fluid the same way in the video for the life of the truck. At least this way we will know for sure if my method will destroy a transmission or not.
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@Trick Shift Garage It is a horrible design in my opinion. I bought special high temp gloves just for these vehicles. Your transmission will operate with less fluid. I am curious if you are seeing higher temperatures in transmission.
@Car Survivalist Yea it really is. I haven't seen a difference in temperature. Maybe they suggest filling when the engine is running while towing? I haven't done any towing, so I can only speculate.
Great video! Reading the comments makes this so confusing. I have a 09 f150 with the 5.4L. How do I tell what transmission i have and what trans fluid to use??
Hey thanks for watching Nick! Your truck has the 6R80 transmission and you want to fill it with Mercon LV.
Ford use to recommend a different transmission fluid, but has since changed to Mercon LV.
I haven't looked yet but should mine have a dip stick or I have to check it on the side? Also the reason I'm looking into this now is I just recently had a slip in reverse. They truck just turned over 200k and I'm not sure if it has ever been checked or serviced. I have owned it since 180k with zero problems. It only gets driven about once a month. I am hoping it is just low on fluid.... what do you think?
So you should have a dipstick, but I'm not 100% sure which one. I have heard that some have a dipstick under the hood, but since you have the 6R80, I would guess yours is similar to mine and it's the small dipstick under that fill port in the side of the transmission.
Now for the difficult answer. I try not to tell people what they should do on these issues because I'm not a mechanic. And there has been a big debate on what people recommend when it comes to transmissions that have a lot of miles without changing the fluid. But I will give you my current perspective on how I view this topic and what I would do if that was my transmission.
I used to believe you should leave a transmission alone if the fluid has never been changed. I was told on numerous occasions that the detergents in the new fluid will loosen any metal shavings or particles and cause them to get lodged, and then ruin your transmission. However, I believe those transmissions were probably on their way out due to having old fluid in there. So, I'm not sold on the idea that new fluid will cause the transmission to fail. In fact, recently my buddy on this channel changed the transmission fluid in his Nissan Altima (CVT) for the first time with over 200k miles. So far, he hasn't had any issues.
I'm not an expert on this by any means, but if I bought a vehicle with over 200k miles, I would definitely drop the pan and then refill. I don't believe in transmission flushes, just refill and then do the same thing 30k miles. This will ensure you get 90% of the old/bad fluid out of there.
I know this is a pretty generic answer, but I hope this helps in some way or another.
Ok so I just check it. No dip stick up by the motor. Its on the side beside the pan. With the trans up to temp and motor off it shows it is low (about 1in up on the sick). With the motor at idle the dip stick is dry.... how much should I add and you say check with motor off right? The dip stick says "check hot - idling in park"
I recommend checking with it doing what the dipstick says. I didn't do it while it was running, but I had just finished driving and it was hot. Be careful, the catalytic converter is right there. Wear some heat resistant gloves if you have them.
The reason I didn't check it while it was idling is because I had never heard of doing it that way before. I have always just dropped the pan on every vehicle I had. And I am curious why it needs to be running, as fluid doesn't flow out of the fill port after I removed the dipstick. It's a very strange way to fill in my opinion. But...since that's what the dipstick says, I would just go ahead and do it that way.
Subscribed! Don't you drain the torque converter also?
You could get a Transmission Flush at your local Ford Dealer, but I decided to just drop the pan and replace the fluid in there. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage I've been a dealership tech for a couple decades till I got out of the business in 2005. I know the older Ford trucks had a drain plug for the torque converter also so you can get more old fluid out. I wasn't sure on the 2010 and up did that still.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only way to remove the fluid in a torque converter on these trucks is to do a flush.
Awesome! Ill watch a few more times to get it down then do it this weekend!
Sounds good! Be sure to let us know how it goes! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage I've just finished however I forgot to place the magnet back in and one of the bolts to the Pan are stripped. How important is this magnet? Ty for the clear guide!
That magnet is actually very very important. You're going to have to get it back in there. It catches all metal particles and shavings from your transmission that could clog and ruin your transmissions internals. I'm sorry brother, but that really needs to go back in there.
@@TrickShiftGarage i see, do you think id be able to drive it around for 2 weeks and get back to it?
Honestly I have no idea. I don't want to say yes, and then you have an issue with your transmission. I'm not sure 2 weeks is long enough to cause damage, but I'm still not 100% sure either. I'm sorry man, I wish I could provide you with a better answer.
What size wrench socket to remove trans pan?
I believe the bolts were either 8MM or 10MM.
@ thanks 👍 I have to remove a 02 sensor for my catalytic converter
@ to get to the fill plug😭
You should check the level at idle speed what it says on the small dip stick
Agreed. Also, when the transmission fluid reaches normal operating temperature. I have it updated in the description.
@TrickShiftGarage I need to do mine it's been 300,000 Trans has 609,000 miles on it along with the motor I'm just wanting to do it myself and was wondering if at idle speed do you just leave the dip stick in when cranking the truck or should the cap be on the dip stick just wondering thanks for the video
Wow that's a lot of miles! And what I would do is fill the fluid until it starts spilling out, and then leave the cap and the dipstick in place until it gets up to operating temperature. Then, you can remove it and top off the fluid.