As a 30+ year Mechanic , the biggest thing I see with modern Ford engines and most modern vehicles in general is extended oil change intervals. Most modern Fords go 10,000 miles between oil changes when using the oil life monitor system… No gas engine , especially turbo charged will survive with 10,000 mile oil changes.
As a ford tech . 28 years same dealership . I’m just going to say I really like your vids . You give very good advice to owners and techs working on fords . Keep up the good work young man
@@patrickjohnson2886 it’s getting hard to find techs at all . I have to admit if I was to do it all over . I would choose a different trade. Other trades are far more lucrative . But it is what it is . And yes a family owned business. Just been a good fit for me
@@gabee3464 the power boost seem fairly good . I have relatively the same opinion on all . Hybrid vehicles . They add a lot of complexity to a vehicle . The drawback is more to go wrong . But it depends on your goals and uses. We have commercial delivery customers . Operating mainly in urban environments . That love the fuel savings of hybrids
I've been a mechanic for over 45 years. I've been a lifelong Chevrolet owner. I live in Texas and I have worked for Ford and Chevrolet dealerships. Due to Chevrolet's refusal to fix their lifter issues I have decided to go to Ford that is what I'm driving now the 2023 F150 5.0 . Absolutely love the power this truck puts out very comfortable truck to drive as well. I appreciate all your videos. It will continue to watch. Thanks
I always had Chevy and fords. Loved them both. After GM became Government Motors when I bailed them out with my hard earned money I will never have a new one ever ever ever again. Very very very unamerican.
Fack Chevy Silverados with the 5.3 stuck lifters. My 09 silverado made me not want to buy a Chevy ever again that thing got a stuck lifters three times!!
It's bulletproof and he's a mechanic. Probably using his truck for work. So you actually get better mpg when towing or carrying heavier loads than the 3.5 even though the 3.5 has more torque. And turbo's just add unnecessary heat under the hood in full-size trucks. Unless it's a turbo diesel. Diesel engine blocks are made of steel. They're designed to handle the extra heat under the hood. @@eminaetiscaliph4439
Great Video! I am an original Senior Master(1999) and spent 25 years with Ford, I got out of the dealer rat race in 2009, so I'm a dinosaur now, but wow, I love your honest straight forward opinions and your technical knowledge, your dealer is lucky to have you, I hope they take care of you.
2014 f150 5.0 bought new has worked 5 days a week hauling 5000 pound trailer, just hit 160k miles and the only issue the truck had was a water pump at 75k other than that Oil changes, brakes and tires. Been the most reliable work truck I’ve ever owned next to the diesels.
@@tropicothunder4262 Average around 16mpg hauling the trailer maybe a little less if it's working hard that week. during the winter when things slow down i can get it up to 19mpg.
I have had the same experience with that year and a 5.0. I have 158k on my 14 stx sport supercrew. Oil changes, brake pads, tires, the coolant y pipe and batteries. The 6 speed transmission is so reliable. I may keep it in the family no matter what I get next. Id bet it would see another 100k miles if I chose to drive it that far without a major assembly failure.
@@danielgajus8859 They're great motors and transmissions! Ford finally got it figured out after years of terrible engineering lol i'm in the same boat i plan on keeping the truck till the wheels fall off, the truck paid for itself 10 times over with the amount of work it's done.
Changed the spring secret...get the piston to TDC, lock the crank from turning, using an air compressor fill the cylinder with air. Yes, they make adapters. Now, when you release the spring, the valve will not fall into the bore due to the air pressure. Replace the spring and release the pressure.
I like you have 223k on a Gen 1. Had to replace the passenger side valve cover. Oil change every 5-6 thousand with Schaeffer's 5w30 and a motorcraft oil filter. Been really good to us.
I’ve got a gen 1 3.5 with 464,000 miles on it and love it. The manifold bolt broke, the lead rail in the tranny was replaced 380,000 but everything else is original and still running 100 mph across the country. I hate the 10 speed transmission, my brother had one and it skipped gears all the time it just sucked. I personally love the 6 speed 465,000 and still going strong
@@joncooper8652 as far as I can tell is as long as you use a good oil and filter these engines last a long time. The first issue I had was the water pump at 280,000 miles. The rear doors wiring harness is the only irritating problem I’ve had and it breaks about every 100,000 miles
I have a gen 2 3.5 ecoboost, I did the cam phaser upgrade myself. Love this motor as it is tuned by 5 star. Best bang for the buck. But..... my friend bought a 2011 new with a 3.5 ecoboost. He owns a performance shop. He does his oil changes, with moble one synthetic. Not only has he never touched the motor, he tows a 28 foot trailer with a race car, golf cart, big freezer. I can bet it is above the maximum tow capacity. I was dumb founded on how reliable that motor is. It makes me believe that oil changes with quality oil makes the difference
I think there’s got to be some truth to that… I’ve got a 2011 3.5 at 230,000 that’s running like a TOP. The majority of the last 100,000 miles I’ve put on it, it has been pulling a 5,000 lb trailer. BUT, I’ve been on top of my maintenance including oil changes every 4,000 miles… We’ll see how much longer she turns! The only issue I’ve had was that I ended up having to replace the water pump at 160k
If the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is so good and wayyyyyyy too reliable then how come Ford didn't put the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in the Super Duty as a base gas engine?
@johnpeters9793 Cause the 5.0 isn't designed for the Super Duty which is why you need either the 6.2L BOSS V8, 6.8L Gas V8, or the 7.3L Godzilla V8. Also the reason Ford didn't put the EcoBoost in the Super Duty is because if they didn't the EcoBoost would ne stressing itself out by using more boost in the turbos and plus having to do more complex stuff just to make the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 work in the Super Duty would not only cost wayyyyyyy more money to develop but also would be even less reliable than ever and would cost you an arm and a leg to just replace the turbos as well as replacing the manifolds and the cam phasers, don't believe me then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about turbo engines ingeneral. Also the almighty 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8 in the Ford Panther Platform (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car) will outlast any EcoBoost engine with ease as well.
@CJColvin So if you know it all....why did you ask the question??....mate. The same ignorant question you've asked dozens of times....mate And Kilmer doesn't know everything....mate Honestly, why such a hard on for the EB??...mate I see your ignorant posts all over the www constantly knocking it...mate. Since 2011, there are literally millions of EB's on the road.....mate. The vast majority have held up fine....or do you think you're so much smarter than everyone else??....mate. Go fix some wheelchairs and STFU already....mate.
I have the same f-150 with the same 1st gen 2.7. It is a great engine and still running strong. Im live in Canada and have about 160k miles on it. Between hauling, idling, short and long trips the truck have not disappointed at all
Gen 4 5.0 has MDS. See ram and GM active fuel management issues. Good luck. Gen 2 2.7 started in 2018 model trucks (some made in 2017) when it added port injection.
I have a 17 5.0 king ranch 2wd with a 5 star tune and it’s a beast. Replaced the torque converter and heater hose. But she keeps on going. 160000 miles and the 6R80 holds up
@@sfcjerryharris1 got a 2014 5.0 work truck that just hit 160k. works 5 days a week and hauls 5000 pound trailer and has had no major problems. water pump went at 75k but they were a known weak point in the first gen 5.0s. Been the most reliable truck I've owned not including diesels.
My neighbor son is a FORD General manager & he swears about how good the 2.7 is. Also what's so Ironic is he always say the 2.7 is the only engine he never see for problems only major problem is leaking plastic oil pan
Liked your video. I have a 2022 2.7 gen2. 355 rear end and 10 speed trans. 12000 miles and I've already done 3 oil changes. Last long highway trip (700 miles) 75 mph , in 10 gear, 1700 rpm, 28 mpg !!! I love this thing !!
Mine gets pretty good but not that good I have 17 2.7 Change my oil 3-3500 I have 6 speed I have a cold air intake and programmer but I only use it low as it goes 137k
I talked to a gentleman at a gas station that swears by the 2.7. He told me the company he works for has over 100 f-150’s with that motor and they never give them issues.
2018 the first year with this so called spray liner. Six years now and where are all the failures with this coyote 5.0. Is it internet hype wouldn’t there be videos that they are all failing and the worst 5.0 ever.
The 6.2 is one of the most reliable engines Ford has built in the last 20 years. We have four of them in f250s with bale beds that feed cattle all day every in mud and snow. Run gravel roads with very little highway miles. They’re bulletproof.
Yeah but this kid thinks you should waste your money on a piece of crap deisel that'll have constant emissions issues. I don't know anyone that's had problems from a 6.2 but every single person I know that's bought ANY newer deisel has had problems.
Surprised he didn’t go over 6.2’s. I’ve heard there bullet proof and wanted to know his input. Probably would’ve ranked low because there gas hogs but ehh.
Exactly you can only go so fast on the road anyways (cops) and I don't need so much more power than I would use anyway.The gas mileage and durability is a factor for me.
130 thousand miles on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost got it new and have done my oil changes every 5 thousand miles synthetic with motorcraft oil filters. I like it its still running. Glad I got a 14 with the steel body.
I prefer the driveability of that gen... Cam phasers are an issue, and other than getting the latest parts and spending 3-5K on labour, doing frequent synthetic oil changes, using FL500s filter AND if its been sitting for a while, hold the pedal down and let it crank until you get some oil pressure before you let her fire up. Yes the 1st gen does have issues with those stupid turbo fitting, and the exhaust manifold bolts... touch wood I only had the former issues, but they were pricy for no real reason other than labour and poor parts. The 5.0 coyote from 2011 -> 2016 is probably the most bulletproof engine in the F150 lineup... and though I love the 2.7, its just too bad none of these things hold up like a Tundra.
I have a 2016 3.5 gen 1 Expy el. Almost 180k. Water pump, coil packs, turbo cooler lines. That's it. Amsoil every 8-10k. New trans flush every 30k. I agree, diligent service will pay you rewards.
301,000 miles on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost. Original engine and transmission. Had to do the Cam phasers and just recently replaced both turbos. Runs like the day i bought it 10 years ago.
@@mikeguajardo395 what went wrong with the turbos? What was the sign you needed to replace them? Was it the waste gates? And what was the cost of you didn't mind me asking. I plan to run my Expy for the LONG haul and I have been looking in all the forums to see what it looks like maintenance wise going 300-400k. Thanks for any info
My brother in laws 2011 3.5 ran thru 250k, but it did sound like a turbo was ready to go kaboom at that point. Not bad though, he kept his foot in it. My 2011 5.0 was good til I sold it in 2020 at 150k. Replaced a rear main seal at 115k, but that was it. 2020 5.0 replaced it, 60k so far no issues so far.
Here's an old ford tech with 20yrs experience chiming in... 5.0 coyote, 6.2 hurricane/boss, and the 4.6/5.4 modular are and were the best and most reliable v8's from ford, with regular maintenance
@chimpletcum9349 all variants of the modular.. some early 5.4 2v had an issue with the spark plugs not being torque fully from factory then ripping the threads out.. and the 3v from 05 up actually won awards for their reliability, albeit they also had spark plug issues breaking off because of sparkplug design and ford recommendations of 100k service intervals which those plugs should have been changed at 50k and some cam phase issues... but most 5.4/4.6 are still running with North of 500k miles.. examples taxis, police cruisers, work vans construction trucks. List goes on
Ive been a Ford tech since 2001, so a little longer than you. And I agree, Ive personally have a Raptor with the 6.2L and that engine is a great, great engine. Ive also had a 2002 with the 5.4L. Never had a lick of problems This kid lost me when he said to avoid the 6.2L, that thing is sweet, strong, reliable, powerful, no leaks and no burning oil.
I have a 2015 3.5 ecoboost with 157K miles on it, changed the oil every 3.5k-4k miles with high quality full synthetic oil, and I have yet to have any failure or need any repairs. Several family members share my experience with their 3.5 ecoboost Gen1/Gen2. If people simply took the maintenance part more seriously they would find they have very few to no problems.
@@edwardmackey747 Seems like alot of work just to simple maintenance on a turbo engine vs an NA V8. Also what job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that overpriced EcoBoost truck with ease?
@@CJColvin Changing your oil every 4K miles "seems like alot of work" to you? 🤣 I don't see how my job or income matters when we're discussing simple oil changes on my truck, but I'm sure in your pea brain there's a correlation. Also, the 3.5 and 8 cylinder F150 are less than $800 difference in price when comparing the same exact trim levels.
Love my 15 2.7! Its a rocket and I still get 19mpg city 24 hwy. I did have to get the oil pan replaced but it was only $300 plus the updated pan with integrated gasket. You guys need to test drive a 2.7. I wish I would have bought a new one back in 2019 before the prices went crazy!
I agree rocket is right. 2018 2.7 With the additional 93 octane tune to 375 hp. The aluminum panels on this truck and the light 2.7 engine shave serious weight. There is a reason why you never see this 2.7 in your shop with it's compacted graphite iron block. I mobile synthetic every 3500 miles no excuses.
@@markmihalin5869If it's so good then how come they didn't put one in the Mustang GT and used the 5.0 instead, also why are the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 in the new Bronco blowing up at very low miles?
I have a 20 F150 with the 2.7…had a lot of little problems with it all covered under warranty but it seems to work really good now…it’s good on fuel, drives really nice and has gobs of power!.. only have about 30,000 miles on it and I change the oil every 5000 miles…
Awesome content Mason,its good that Ford offers choices.I've had a 2.7 in a 15,3.5 in a 17 ,and now 3.5 in a 19.Only engine related issue was a thermostat on my current 3.5 at 60000miles/100000kms.All great and my brother has a 5.0 in his 17 and that one great as well!! I do like the PowerBoost as well,especially with its on board power
Got a 2017 F150 2.7 bought new. Absolutely NO problems at 100,000. Actually the whole truck....replaced tires and brakes, did have a caliper sticking and replaced that. That's It! Love this truck
I have a 2017 with 186k oil change tires and brakes. Also I’m the original owner. Had 35 miles on it. Biggest thing I do is start the truck and let it warm up.
Had my right caliper sticking too. Only problem so far at 109,000 miles. Came to this video because my 2016 2.7 worries me, but this video gave me great piece of mind!
I own a 2015 2.7 I bought new. I've used pickups in the kitchen remodeling business for the last 40 plus years. It's the best truck I've owned by far. 194,000 miles and uses no oil.
@omar4032 first thing you do is drill a 16th hole in the intercooler keeps all the moisture out of the combustion chamber. This is because the intercooler is in the wrong location. 2nd don't drive the twin turbo like an old lady they need to boost. 3rd change the oil every 4 thousand miles...add 1 quart of pure synthetic Lucas in every oil change. Use Motorcraft oils only....4th change the LEAD FRAME immediately...5th watch it go over 700 thousand miles on original motor....
@@TheLawlessGang it's all about maintenance...my 2001 7.tree f2shity has 870 thousand miles all original..still stroking and purrs like a kitten 😸.. 13 letter shitspreader INTERNATIONAL best diesel ever made...
@@mattvanatti4628 Just sold my '02 F250 7.3 with 345K, mainly because driver's seat had massive hole & also because I don't pull anything anymore. Went to someone that will keep her working on a farm. Was stick except for DP Tuner 5 way chip to put that big turbo to work.
my 3.0 diesel has been the best truck i've owned. Crazy fuel economy on the highway, and i've had no issues. I had more issues with my 6.2 F350, and my 2011 5.0, but my 3.0 has yet to fail me even one time after 5 years and 127,000 miles. Just have to keep up on your maintenance, use good fuel (add lube), and run it. doesn't burn a lick of oil, and runs as smooth as it did on day one.
Fellow 3.0 owner here. Went from had two 2.7EB f-150s (company vehicles) and I loved them but the diesel has that torque right when you want it. It is NOT SLOW and I've been getting 26mpg mixed driving. Reliable, smooth and I just hit 170,000kms (110000miles).
I purchased a used 2017 F150 5.0 2wd king ranch super crew used and I love her. I replaced the torque converter and a heater hose and she has 160,000 miles, with a 5 star tune. Added 2023 tremor shocks up front and air bags on the rear. She has never failed me. Great power and the 6R80 has never given me issues
@@BrunoBorges704 I'd guess that it's likely being used as a work truck, he's loading it up with alot of weight, either in the truck, or pulling a heavy trailer, or perhaps both.
I’m 60, have 12 cars, 4 cycles, etc…I have never had a bad vehicle and have no allegiance to any brand as they have all been good. I’m on my 8th F150 (3 have been 3.5 ecoboost) and the 9th (Powerboost) gets picked up next Thursday. Most have only been 150k mile trucks because I use them for work and I get bored, but several of my other rides have 300k miles as do some other F150’s we have at work. General rule is 5K mile full synthetic oil changes and keep them clean. Other than that, I use them to the max…I drive aggressive, donuts, disable traction control, tow, 4 wheel, overload, etc. Not sure why people have so many issues…I never have any.
@@CJColvin Displacement. Read this" From what I recall, they ran one for testing purposes only, and while it could make "enough" power for a basic truck, the mpg economy was actually worse. If you run a turbo ecoboost engine in full boost, or near full boost mode most of the time (to drive around the larger, heavier truck chassis), the mpg will actually work out to be less than the "traditional" V8 (6.2 or 7.3 gas). And for the guys that do work their 250/350 trucks hard, the poor little "hair dried" ecoboost suffered premature failures, complaints of poor power, and for a truck engine, where you typically want your power band on the low side of the rpm range, you had to "scream" the little ecoboost (rev it at high rpm) for it to make the power to get work done. Overall, not a harmonious engine package for a truck that was designed to work for a living." from www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/why-no-ecoboost-in-the-f250.456815/
This guy is epically full of shit. He literally states all of the issues are from lack of maintenance. So blame the engine? Silly. I was a Ford tech for 20 years. They were great engines. I did see several broken manifold bolts but all the manufacturers have that issue. There are so many techs who decide something is bad because they work on them alot. Well, they sold millions of the things so maybe you will see lots of them?
I have a 2012 3.5 Eco with 137K that’s only needed a fuel pump after 6 years owning it. It’s been through plenty of towing and snow. I do full synthetic every 4k miles.
@@BrandonMingerink that’s just a minimum requirement but the oil filter is the one thing most people forget about. A synthetic media type filter should be used in these engines because of the small oil passages in certain parts of the engine and internal engine components. The filter that’s offered in these quick lube places only has a 40 micron filtration which is fine for some vehicles that are older and change the oil every 3,000 miles. 40 micron filtration is not adequate for these variable valve timing engines, especially the turbo charged engines. 40 micron carbon particles are what build up in those passages,on the back side of the valves and in the turbo chargers. A synthetic blend oil with a synthetic oil filter changed at 5,000 miles is adequate for 150,000 miles or more depending on the quality of the oil and filter, and driving conditions.
I love my 2016 F150 with a V8. It took me nine months to find one with a perfectly documented maintenance history, but it was worth the wait, and I also got a great price.
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Great info. I've always said when I buy a new/newer vehicle, I would rather talk to the mechanic than the salesperson. Salesperson just wants to sell you a vehicle, but a mechanic will tell you potential problems they see (no vehicle is perfect and all will have problems, it's just what problems can i expect). Watching from WI.
I remember a long time ago (probably around 2006) I was looking for a car and a salesman was trying to get me to look at other stuff that's not in my price range. So I felt like he was testing my gangsta. 😂 He walks me over to a Mini cooper S, it's a 6-speed. So he pops the hood and I'm looking at it and see a supercharger on top of it. So I challenged his knowledge about the engine and asked him "What's this piece on top?" he tells me know doesn't know. I ask him "What does SOHC and DOHC means? What displacement is the engine? Is this FWD or RWD?" He tells me he doesn't know. I'm just sitting there shaking my head. Then he breaks down and tells me he really doesn't know anything about the cars on the lot, he's just trying to make a sale.
In 2019 I bought a 2014 F150 FX4 Supercab with 40,000 miles on it. Has the 5.0 1st generation. Love it. Your video is excellent. I’ve always been strict about changing oil at recommended intervals. Change mine at 5,000 miles; I do mostly city miles, stop and start every mile or less. You’ve armed me with knowledge of what to anticipate or look for. I’ll watch more closely for oil leaks. Took me 45 minutes to watch your video; I kept rewinding to take pen/paper notes! 😼
I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 3.5 ecoboost. It has 307126 miles The issue I have with it is vvt Rattle, but it only goes sometimes. And I love my truck.
I have a 2011 f150 with 153k miles and I do uber with it every once in awhile!!! I love this truck and its is what you said…..oil Changes is key. Plus there are so many 1st gen 3.5 with 300k already
you have to take it from his point of view. he's a tech, they only see bad things. my 3.5EB has 189k and never had a crazy issue. my valve cover does leak, but not enough to make me worry about taking care of it yet. my turbo coolant line on the driver side has started to leak slowly, but it's winter and i just keep the coolant topped off every 2 - 3 weeks, it takes maybe 16oz to bring it back up. i'll take care of it come spring, but other than that, solid since i've owned it.
I will just keep driving my 2002 Silverado with a 5.3 only has 120k miles, my buddy has one with 400,000 and half that was towing a trailer and zero engine problems
i been ford tech for 39 years and i drive f150 with 2.7. love the power and gas mileage and reliability.this is the most sold engine in f150 and least problems we see.
We have a 2016 transit with the 3.5 EcoBoost and so far it’s been a champ, I’m also following my mechanic’s advice and doing very frequent oil changes. No engine issues so far. Love it and it has a 0-60 of 6.4s in a 15 passenger van 😂
I'm guessing you meant 2.7 lol. I was in same boat brother, just got a 2019 2 years ago. So I was glad to hear that it's a good motor according to him anyway. 🙏🏼🤞
Same here, I have a 2014 with 90k+ miles and no problems. Tows my little 17 ft trailer (3000 lb) as if it's not there, goes 80 on the highway when I'm not and is comfortable enough to drive 650 mile trips. It goes plenty fast when you poke it, I am very happy with it.
I really enjoy watching your videos, i own a 2020 3.5 ecoboost f150 and so far I'm just over 20k miles without any issues yet. I've put a catch can on it and a cobb tune and it's an absolute beast.
I bought the 2021 powerboost and absolutely love it. Got about 2ok miles on it with no problem. I change the oil every 3k miles, don’t care what they recommend. This truck has so much utility and you didn’t mention pro power onboard. I live on a farm in NC and this truck has powered my house multiple times when a bad storm knocks the power out.
Great video. But I’m curious to why you didn’t mention the oil consumption issue on the gen 3 5.0s? It’s such a common and we’ll known problem with the 2018-2020 coyotes.
@@paulhunter9613 had to laugh when the 2.7 was dinged in the rating for not seeing many of them in the service bay, seems like a positive to me. Being cheaper than the 3.5 and 5.0 I have to believe they have a larger marketshare, though I haven't seen the numbers.
I am the original owner of an almost 15 year old F150 that’s been a reliable and relatively trouble free truck. I cannot overstate that proper maintenance is the key! I had the valve covers off it for the first time last year and the 5.4 still looked clean, shiny, and like new inside thanks to proper interval oil changes.
5 years an 90,000 later on my 2018 2.7 and I would have bought the same truck. Great on fuel, great for towing my 5th wheel in the summer. I took advice from a ford Tech and cut all the recommended service intervals in half. Zero problems it still runs like new. I'd say the biggest improvement on the Gen-2 2.7Lfrom the gen-1 2.7L is the dual port injection. The gen 1 was only direct port and I was worried about carbon buildup on the valves.
I have 350,000 miles on my 2013 5.0 F150 super crew and it still runs like the day I bought it and I tested both motors when I bought my truck new. The Ecoboost was a little faster but sounded like a sewing machine and at the time it had a bad reputation for motor problems that I wasn't willing to roll the dice on. I knew I was going to be keeping my truck for a long time and that the Ecoboost with its reputation wasn't going to last as long. IMO the Coyote 5.0 is one of the best motors Ford has ever made.
Hi Mayson, really enjoyed your video. It's nice to have someone with such knowledge who can articulate their thoughts in a video. Thanks! Here's my sub and a thumbs up
Isn’t the fact that he has barely seen any 2.7Ls a testament to their reliability? Looks like the dealers are selling a lot of these trucks, so I wonder if it’s actually more reliable than the others?
The 2.7l Ecoboost is a cool engine but I worry about the longevity of then oil pump belt. It’s submerged in oil which makes no sense to me. The 1.0l ecoboost is the same way. Ford should have used a chain, imo.
After watching these types of videos and working on modern day diesels all day, im really glad both my 86 mustang and 85 e150 have carbureted roller cam 302s mated to a t5 transmission. The new stuff isn't nearly as fun to work on like the old cars were
Great video! I’ll be looking at getting an f150 in the next few years and the 5.0 is all I’ll take even before I watched this video. Love learning more about all of the others as well
the gas mileage is around 12 mpg on the 5.0 liter. they suck a n d cant pass a gas station on the highway. i bought a 2018 and live my 3.3 liter non turbo. i haul a 7000 pound skid steer and get 20 mpg on the highway 16 around town. its a rock crusher. empty 23 mpg highway and 19 around towwn with a 6 speed trans o and its 4 wheel drive too.
@@rockymartin2179 I’m actually driving the 5.0 as a loaner while my ranger is being worked on. I’m averaging 17 myself ( 21 on highway after my trip yesterday) and it’s mostly city style driving with no payload other than myself and at 600ft elevation. Mostly flat roads with small hills. Are you really only getting 12?
I'm a senior master Ford tech. Its the highest level certification you can get from Ford. If someone tells you not to buy a late model F150 5.0, its very good advice. The F150 is one of the most complicated vehicles ever made. You have 2 completely separate fuel injection systems, 2 fuel pumps. 4 cams, 4 cam phasers, 3 timing chains, an unreliable 10 speed transmission that takes special fluid, the dipstick is in code, and it has to be hooked up to a computer to monitor the fluid temperature that must be between 210-216 degrees just to set the level, otherwise you'll have drivability issues. Constant door latch issues, Constant camera issues with a calibration process that has to be seen to believe, constant vibration issues, a computer system with over 50 modules on the network that would make NASA jealous, and a telematics system that calls Ford every time your check engine light, or any other type of fault occurs, and you get a phone call from Dearborn MI telling you to take the truck in to the dealership for immediate service. There's a few other issues as well, but aside from that, its not too bad. The loaner you have looks great and drives beautiful. I get it. Its not foolish to want one. But if you saw the hell we put our customers through, you simply wouldn't believe it. If you must have an F150 with a 5.0, here's my advice as a Ford tech. There are 2 major engine editions for the 5.0. A 302 and a 307. The 302 is either a gen 1 or gen 2 motor. It has 1 fuel injection system (port, not direct), and it gets matched to a very reliable 6 speed transmission. Gen 3's and up are 307's. If you want all that crap I listed above, buy a 307. I can definitely recommend the 302. They do have some issues, but its not the nightmare that the 307 is. Or why not keep the Ranger? I'd rather have that over an F150. If its a 2.3, the base engine is a Mazda L series. Ford takes the base motor and puts the Eccoboost system on it, but the short block is a Mazda, and they make very good engines. I'm a certified Mazda tech as well, so I've worked on quite a few of them.
'17 5.0 6spd... best mpg has been 21+ strictly highway. City/Highway I'm getting 19 easy. This is calculated at the pump btw. Keep in mind... I do drive like a little old lady... besides the weekly Italian Tune-up my truck gets!!😅 Looove the 5.0 Turn that key and it's an instant smile on my face. Sounds so GOOD!!!
I bought a 2024 Powerboost a week ago. I agree...the power and torque is insane! I hope buying a hybrid won't bite me in the rear-end. I love it so far. I traded in a 2013 5.0L which was pampered with 6K oil changes. At about the same time, a friend bought a 2013 with a Gen 1 Ecoboost. I enjoyed years of trouble-free driving while my friend had numerous major engine issues with his truck. My gut told me then that the Ecoboost was too new and I should let others suffer through the failures. My dad would never buy cars with power windows because he said, "It's just another thing that'll break." I inherited this gene. LOL Thanks for the great video.
@@barrthom603 the oil pan on the 2.7 tends to leak, and while the 3.5 does have the cam phaser issue the updated design pretty much solves that as long as maintenance is kept up. We don’t see much of either in the shop I work at, so both are good so long as you take care of the known issues. The 3.5 just tends to do better over time.
@@barrthom603Stay away from the 307's because they're nightmares. They can burn up to a qt of oil every 500 miles. The 3.5 and 2.7 are about the same. They both give problems, but you usually don't have to replace the motors. The 2.7 has less VVT issues but coolant tends to get into the turbos. The 10 speeds have a lot of problems as well.
Great video. I have a 2018xlt super crew with a 2.7ecoboost. I drive 60 mile a day for work and average 19-20 mpg. I do my oil changes every 6k miles . Been very happy with it.
I love your knowledge and recommendations. Needless to say, I own a 2013 Ford F-150 Super Crew FX4 3.5L EB with the 6-speed. 84k miles. Thee only issue I have had in my 4 years of ownership is the switch to my electronic locking rear diff failed 6 months ago. My best truck ever.
I have a 2013 fx4 super crew with the 3.5 also. I have 232000 miles on her. Only issue I have had was water pump went out at around 150k. Plenty of power. Been a good pick up
How often do you change the oil? I just bought a 2014 3.5 ecoboost and was really excited about it until I saw this video. It has 100k miles and oil changes (on the carfax anyway) are around every 10k miles. I'm hoping I can just do oil changes every 5k and I'm going to take a look at the intake valves and clean them if needed and that is enough to get me through 50k miles without problems. I plan to upgrade before 50k miles anyway, and I also want to be confident that it is still going strong when I sell it.
The 2.7 should've been a 9/10. The 3.7 is actually quite good at towing. I had a 2014 with the 3.7 for 3 years, and the ONLY time I didn't regret buying that pig was with a trailer behind it.
Great video! I love my 2019 F-150 with the 5.0L Coyote, paired with the 10R80 transmission. The only powertrain issue I’ve had (after 69K miles) with the 5.0L was the first problem you listed - the VCT solenoids. Easy warranty fix, though. Overall, the truck runs like a beast, especially with my Oz Omega X tune.
All I know is that my 2005 F150 from the Virginia plant has run like a champ. Only replaced batteries, starter and serpentine belt ! Kept the fluids changed religiously !
As a tech I like your clips, never over the top and pretty straight forward and well presented. I have the 2020 F150 with the 5.0 and the 10 spd, engine is great but the 10 speed I hate . I tow a lot and it never stops shifting, while it is super smooth listening to it drives me nuts. I would much rather the 6 spd. I have tried to drive it in manual mode and it still annoys the hell outa me. Old or new oil changes are key to long life and low trouble, I change my diesel and my 5.0 every 6ooo miles regardless of what the oil life indication tells me. It saves money in the long run. Keep the vids coming , they are great .
Great video. Had a 2013 3.5 eco boost with 3.73 gears. 4x4. Never any problems. Traded it in at 83k for 2023 Ford Eco boost 3.5 with 3.55 gears. Pull travel trailer and always did me a great job. I also did my maintenance regularly and used amsoil after 10,000 miles. Change at 7500 miles
The used truck prices are pretty scary too. I bought my 2017 XLT 3.5L EB/10R80 SuperCrew Fx4 last May, it's a TX Edition with 20" wheels. I originally wanted the 5.0L Coyote but after doing some reading and research, the 3.5 started looking better for my needs. I started getting cam phaser rattle last November, not too bad yet but I can tell it's starting. First thing I did was add an oil catch can, then driver's side rear seat back release, an oil change and filters at 64% oil life remaining (so I'd know what's in it), new BFG A/T KO2s to replace the worn out street tires it came with. So far I love the engine, the transmission default mode gets annoying in town with frequent shifts and it's less responsive on take offs but Sport Mode takes care of those issues. I only use default mode on the interstate and some parts on highways. Overall, I absolutely love this truck. It's the smoothest riding vehicle I've ever owned with plenty of power for my needs, more than enough cabin space for comfort and secure/dry storage for luggage and groceries (especially with the rear seat bases folded up). The 5.5' bed is a trade off: sucks if I need to haul lumber but okay for hauling brush, trash to the dump, etc. The ONLY time I wish I had something smaller is when I have to park downtown (Nashville). I think they base parking spaces on Smart Cars and Fiats.
Watch your exhaust on cold starts. If its white, you're burning coolant. It leaks and gets into the turbos. If you catch it early its usually not a big deal, but don't let it go. Also, check your trans fluid regularly. You can't let that go either. If you do your own maintenance, changing the oil on the 2.7 is easy. The filter is under the hood. Just be careful you don't burn yourself draining the oil.
I agree with the 3.5, but in my opinion the gen 1 3.5 with proper maintenance should make it to 200k before needing the work you talked about. Personally did all that to mine at 200k Still going strong at 250k
OMG DUDE. Just came across your vid and being a 2020 2.7 with 17800 F-150 I'm getting the bug for a new F150. I had a 5.0 before and really just love the sound of a 8 compared to my 2.7. Just drove a 24 for testing with 5.0 lariat blacked out and geez I fell in love. That thing is Pure sweet. Thing holding me back at moment is dam high interest rates. Thanks for info for me to think about on what engine I should actually look at. I subscribed and look forward to your vids.
I had a 2009 mazda 5 2.3l ...went to the scrap heap with a worn out transaxle at 530,000 miles...oil changes 7,000-10,000 mile intervals...never used a drop of oil & i beat that thing to death...wish I'd taken better care of it
Im super convinced that most of the ecoboost problems come from lack of maintenance and lack of understanding of how important frequent QUALITY oil changes are. I do have the leaky turbo coolant fitting that i need to fix but it has been a great truck and i tow with it regularly.
@@nateg08 Or maybe it's because it ain't as well built nor durable as the 5.6L Endurance V8 in the Nissan Titan as well as the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the 07-21 Toyota Tundra.
@CJColvin well the titan is going away, and Toyota went to a tt v6 as well. As I remember, Ford had its issues with the 3.5 but they didn't have to replace 100,000 engines like Toyota just did because they were failing at 30k miles. Also, "ain't" isn't a word. I don't care if they put it in the dictionary.
@@nateg08 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the reason why I bought the Nissan Titan cause I didn't want cylinder deactivation nor auto stop start as well as the stupid twin turbos, the reason the Titan is going away is because of the poor marketing from Nissan.
Just traded in my 2012 3.5 f150 for my newer 2022 2.7 f150. I'm really glad you said you wouldn't keep anybody from buying this smaller engine if it fits your needs. Only thing I tow is my motorcycle. I thought I would notice having less horsepower than my 2012...but the 2022 2.7L paired with the ten speed... It is a beast imo and I have been really happy with it so far. As a former Ford mechanic I know to keep up on the maintenance especially oil changes. With that I'm excited to see if I can get well over 200k miles like my 2012. Great informative video!!
Great videos! The first time I rented a home depot truck and it had a 10speed. That things was insane awesome and soooo smooth and like you said, keeps them right in the power. Perfectly. 😀
I have Gen 1 3.5 in a 2014 FX4 with 200k miles, runs strong oil changes every 5k miles. Only thing i've replaced on this truck is valve cover gaskets, and the hub actuators. As long as you maintain your vehicle it'll last.
What an awesome video, thank you for sharing your insights on the 10R80. I definitely had my concerns with it, but now that I understand some of the issues and costs of what it would take to overhaul it. Please keep making these amazing videos!
Over the summer, I bought a new F150. One of my requirements was the V8 because I have no experience with turbo engines and didn't want the added complexities and cost if the turbos go bad. I'm glad to hear the V8 is pretty solid. I changed the oil at around 3k miles and plan to do so around every 5k from now on. As to the ten speed transmission, it takes some getting used to, especially when it skips 2nd gear. But otherwise, I can't complain.
@gnarlytothemax you can say that again. Try looking for a 5.0 Lariat with the 6.5' bed. Absolutely non existent. I got amazingly lucky when one became available, was a 2020, and located 25 miles away. The others were an 8 hour drive to go pickup. I was watching for 6 months.
Hope you don’t want to tow anything. The 5.0 is a high revving mustang motor and you can’t have a conversation in the cabin while towing. The 3.5 runs around 2500 towing the 5.0 screams at 5500-6000 rpm while towing. Great mustang motor not so good for trucks The 3.5 is a much better truck motor than the 5.0. It tow effortlessly and as you heard him say 8/10 rating. Are you guys from the Stone Age? Turbos have been on diesels forever and you’d probably buy a diesel. Just make sure you do your oil changes and as the mechanic said the 3.5 is just as reliable as the 5.0 BUT it can tow where the 5.0 is terrible at towing ‘it has to work harder and it’s way noisier
Great video. I have a gen 1 3.5 EB (2016) since 18k miles. i now have 78k. i ended my 10k mile oil change at 70k and started changing oil at 5k. Love this truck. no issues ever. I especially love the aluminum oil pan instead of the plastic one in 2017 EB. im shocked you ranked it the lowest. i plan to never get rid of mine.
You really know your stuff; thank you for sharing all of this great info as usual. I have a 2021 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost and I change oil religiously on it every 4k. Amsoil full synthetic, is that way overkill, yes, do I care, no.
I use Amsoil signature series oil with their 25,000 mile filter. I change mine every 12 to 15,000 miles and I’m up to 465,000 miles but that’s just me. The way you are going that thing will never quit.
I appreciate your expert advice on the Ford F 150’s. However, I have a 2012 F150 3.5 Ecoboost with 297,000 miles. The tranny was not much to brag about. Rebuilt it at 164,000 miles but had been a constant problem since I bought the truck new, till I rebuilt it. The engine though has been AMAZING!! Changed the radiator, water pump, coils and plugs. Other than that, no problem. With regular maintenance it runs like new.
My first F150 was the 2020 with the 5.0 and 10 speed. I got one that had the oil usage issue. They did the TSB with the re-flash on the computer as well as the longer dip stick. Never stopped consuming oil. I would have to add a quart every 1500 to 2000 miles. The transmission was a mess also. They finally put a new valve body in it. It got a little better for a while but then went back to slamming on downshifts and upshifts. One of the roughest shifting transmissions I have ever owned. It also hunted for gears constantly. These were just the main issues with this truck. I traded it off with 35000 miles on it for a 2023 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. Only have about 13000 on it so far. The engine seems to be fine and has a lot of power as well as good gas mileage. The transmission on the other hand shifts about as rough as the 2020, but at least it does not hunt for gears all the time. So far I am not too impressed with Ford quality. Have already had 2 recalls on the 2023.
My 2011 f150 Lariat with the 5.0 is the best truck ford ever made I have 260k runs like new and the older 5.0 is the easiest motor to work on, I was gonna buy a new truck and realized I can't get a better truck
I ve got 188k on my v8 2014 f150 😂great truck, smooth running, good rid, bought it from a construction company, it had no codes, on the scan tool, other then rust its super fantastic truck
As a 30+ year Mechanic , the biggest thing I see with modern Ford engines and most modern vehicles in general is extended oil change intervals. Most modern Fords go 10,000 miles between oil changes when using the oil life monitor system… No gas engine , especially turbo charged will survive with 10,000 mile oil changes.
My 2.7 EB Life monitor always gets to its end at 5k miles… and gets changed.
I agree it's bonkers, and people love the idea. They have no idea how bad 8-10000mi is on semi synthetic bulk dealer oil.
That’s why I do every 2,000 miles on full sunthetic
Thats just stupid and wasting alot of money on oil lol @samred007
I’m at 283k with 2015 3.5 eb and I’ve only done it when computer says. Motorcraft synthetic blend and motorcraft filters always.
As a ford tech . 28 years same dealership . I’m just going to say I really like your vids . You give very good advice to owners and techs working on fords . Keep up the good work young man
What about the Powerboost? How do all the techs feel about that power train?
LOl!! This dude has a video that says YOU SHOULD NOT KEEP checking your oil...
28 years !! God bless you Sir. Hard to find people like us. It must be a great family dealership. I’ve been with UPS 33 years as a Tech.
@@patrickjohnson2886 it’s getting hard to find techs at all . I have to admit if I was to do it all over . I would choose a different trade. Other trades are far more lucrative . But it is what it is . And yes a family owned business. Just been a good fit for me
@@gabee3464 the power boost seem fairly good . I have relatively the same opinion on all . Hybrid vehicles . They add a lot of complexity to a vehicle . The drawback is more to go wrong . But it depends on your goals and uses. We have commercial delivery customers . Operating mainly in urban environments . That love the fuel savings of hybrids
I've been a mechanic for over 45 years. I've been a lifelong Chevrolet owner. I live in Texas and I have worked for Ford and Chevrolet dealerships. Due to Chevrolet's refusal to fix their lifter issues I have decided to go to Ford that is what I'm driving now the 2023 F150 5.0 . Absolutely love the power this truck puts out very comfortable truck to drive as well. I appreciate all your videos. It will continue to watch. Thanks
I'm curious as to why you chose the 5.0 over the 3.5 Ecoboost?
I always had Chevy and fords. Loved them both. After GM became Government Motors when I bailed them out with my hard earned money I will never have a new one ever ever ever again. Very very very unamerican.
Fack Chevy Silverados with the 5.3 stuck lifters. My 09 silverado made me not want to buy a Chevy ever again that thing got a stuck lifters three times!!
It's bulletproof and he's a mechanic. Probably using his truck for work. So you actually get better mpg when towing or carrying heavier loads than the 3.5 even though the 3.5 has more torque. And turbo's just add unnecessary heat under the hood in full-size trucks. Unless it's a turbo diesel. Diesel engine blocks are made of steel. They're designed to handle the extra heat under the hood. @@eminaetiscaliph4439
Have had 7 ford's now and am.looking at a 2024 3.5 in a lariat .And just sold our red 2018 RS.Now that's a fun drive
Great Video! I am an original Senior Master(1999) and spent 25 years with Ford, I got out of the dealer rat race in 2009, so I'm a dinosaur now, but wow, I love your honest straight forward opinions and your technical knowledge, your dealer is lucky to have you, I hope they take care of you.
I have a f150 2nd gen 2.7 with 145k ‘miles and have had zero issues. I tow a 9,500lbs boat trailer a few times a month and have had zero issues.
2014 f150 5.0 bought new has worked 5 days a week hauling 5000 pound trailer, just hit 160k miles and the only issue the truck had was a water pump at 75k other than that Oil changes, brakes and tires. Been the most reliable work truck I’ve ever owned next to the diesels.
Hows the mpg?
@@tropicothunder4262 Average around 16mpg hauling the trailer maybe a little less if it's working hard that week. during the winter when things slow down i can get it up to 19mpg.
I have the same truck with 223k with the same water pump replacement. My best vehicle ever owned.
I have had the same experience with that year and a 5.0. I have 158k on my 14 stx sport supercrew. Oil changes, brake pads, tires, the coolant y pipe and batteries. The 6 speed transmission is so reliable. I may keep it in the family no matter what I get next. Id bet it would see another 100k miles if I chose to drive it that far without a major assembly failure.
@@danielgajus8859 They're great motors and transmissions! Ford finally got it figured out after years of terrible engineering lol i'm in the same boat i plan on keeping the truck till the wheels fall off, the truck paid for itself 10 times over with the amount of work it's done.
I give Mayson a 10/10 for making this video!
Me too!
Changed the spring secret...get the piston to TDC, lock the crank from turning, using an air compressor fill the cylinder with air. Yes, they make adapters. Now, when you release the spring, the valve will not fall into the bore due to the air pressure. Replace the spring and release the pressure.
Even easier,
Pull plug
Insert 1/4" cordage into hole until no more will fit
Pull spring
@@AK_RayI don’t doubt that it works, but willingly shoving garbage into the cylinder just seems like bad practice.
@@TheeAbstractHeroyeah
I own a 2011 F 150, 3.5 ecoboost, platinum edition. I currently have 222009 miles with none of the issues you talked about.
I like you have 223k on a Gen 1. Had to replace the passenger side valve cover. Oil change every 5-6 thousand with Schaeffer's 5w30 and a motorcraft oil filter. Been really good to us.
2015 gen 2 5.0 FX4
I have 300k miles and still strong. Only preventative maintenance
I’ve got a gen 1 3.5 with 464,000 miles on it and love it. The manifold bolt broke, the lead rail in the tranny was replaced 380,000 but everything else is original and still running 100 mph across the country. I hate the 10 speed transmission, my brother had one and it skipped gears all the time it just sucked. I personally love the 6 speed 465,000 and still going strong
glad to see this. I have a 2015 3.5 ecoboost with 172,000 on the clock and she still runs like a top
@@joncooper8652 as far as I can tell is as long as you use a good oil and filter these engines last a long time. The first issue I had was the water pump at 280,000 miles. The rear doors wiring harness is the only irritating problem I’ve had and it breaks about every 100,000 miles
Drove a 1000 miles from the start of the comment to the end. Next level speed there!
@@reubenmiller7988 nah, just fat fingers. Lol
I do drive between 80 to 100,000 miles per year though. This pickup has been perfect for what I do.
I have a gen 2 3.5 ecoboost, I did the cam phaser upgrade myself. Love this motor as it is tuned by 5 star. Best bang for the buck. But..... my friend bought a 2011 new with a 3.5 ecoboost. He owns a performance shop. He does his oil changes, with moble one synthetic. Not only has he never touched the motor, he tows a 28 foot trailer with a race car, golf cart, big freezer. I can bet it is above the maximum tow capacity. I was dumb founded on how reliable that motor is. It makes me believe that oil changes with quality oil makes the difference
I think there’s got to be some truth to that… I’ve got a 2011 3.5 at 230,000 that’s running like a TOP. The majority of the last 100,000 miles I’ve put on it, it has been pulling a 5,000 lb trailer. BUT, I’ve been on top of my maintenance including oil changes every 4,000 miles… We’ll see how much longer she turns! The only issue I’ve had was that I ended up having to replace the water pump at 160k
If the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is so good and wayyyyyyy too reliable then how come Ford didn't put the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in the Super Duty as a base gas engine?
@CJColvin
Why doesn't Ford use the 5.0L in the Super Duties....mate???
@johnpeters9793 Cause the 5.0 isn't designed for the Super Duty which is why you need either the 6.2L BOSS V8, 6.8L Gas V8, or the 7.3L Godzilla V8. Also the reason Ford didn't put the EcoBoost in the Super Duty is because if they didn't the EcoBoost would ne stressing itself out by using more boost in the turbos and plus having to do more complex stuff just to make the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 work in the Super Duty would not only cost wayyyyyyy more money to develop but also would be even less reliable than ever and would cost you an arm and a leg to just replace the turbos as well as replacing the manifolds and the cam phasers, don't believe me then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about turbo engines ingeneral. Also the almighty 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8 in the Ford Panther Platform (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car) will outlast any EcoBoost engine with ease as well.
@CJColvin
So if you know it all....why did you ask the question??....mate.
The same ignorant question you've asked dozens of times....mate
And Kilmer doesn't know everything....mate
Honestly, why such a hard on for the EB??...mate
I see your ignorant posts all over the www constantly knocking it...mate.
Since 2011, there are literally millions of EB's on the road.....mate.
The vast majority have held up fine....or do you think you're so much smarter than everyone else??....mate.
Go fix some wheelchairs and STFU already....mate.
I have a Gen 1 2.7 ecoboost with 175,000 miles 15% dirt roads with zero issues. It’s been a great engine!
Edit : 195,000 miles and still doing great
I have the same f-150 with the same 1st gen 2.7. It is a great engine and still running strong. Im live in Canada and have about 160k miles on it. Between hauling, idling, short and long trips the truck have not disappointed at all
I wonder what the resale on something like that will be?
Best engine ford puts out there. My salesman has always pointed me in that direction. Never had any issues since the beginning.
My 2015 2.7l has 212,000 miles, haven't replaced anything but brakes, tires and battery. Still runs and drives new.
@@HK-qj4im we here for the long run untill the engine gives up. Not looking for resale a ford truck after 100000 miles
Gen 4 5.0 has MDS. See ram and GM active fuel management issues. Good luck. Gen 2 2.7 started in 2018 model trucks (some made in 2017) when it added port injection.
I have a 21 3.0 powerstroke, it’s been a great truck I have 35k on it and never had a single issue! And it gets anywhere from 24-32 mpg
I keep hearing that the 15-17 years with the 5.0 is THE sweet spot for the truck
No 10 speed, that's why
Also the ‘18-‘20 5.0’s can sometimes have oil consumption issues which would make me stay away from a used one of those years.
I have a 17 5.0 king ranch 2wd with a 5 star tune and it’s a beast. Replaced the torque converter and heater hose. But she keeps on going. 160000 miles and the 6R80 holds up
@@sfcjerryharris1 got a 2014 5.0 work truck that just hit 160k. works 5 days a week and hauls 5000 pound trailer and has had no major problems. water pump went at 75k but they were a known weak point in the first gen 5.0s. Been the most reliable truck I've owned not including diesels.
@@sfcjerryharris1 it's a clunky shifting trans
My neighbor son is a FORD General manager & he swears about how good the 2.7 is. Also what's so Ironic is he always say the 2.7 is the only engine he never see for problems only major problem is leaking plastic oil pan
Liked your video. I have a 2022 2.7 gen2. 355 rear end and 10 speed trans. 12000 miles and I've already done 3 oil changes. Last long highway trip (700 miles) 75 mph , in 10 gear, 1700 rpm, 28 mpg !!! I love this thing !!
Mine gets pretty good but not that good I have 17 2.7 Change my oil 3-3500 I have 6 speed I have a cold air intake and programmer but I only use it low as it goes 137k
Is yours a 4x4, George?
I talked to a gentleman at a gas station that swears by the 2.7. He told me the company he works for has over 100 f-150’s with that motor and they never give them issues.
As a forum reader, im surprised Mayson didn't mention the cylinder deactivation and spray on PTWA bore liner for the Coyote 5.0
2018 the first year with this so called spray liner. Six years now and where are all the failures with this coyote 5.0. Is it internet hype wouldn’t there be videos that they are all failing and the worst 5.0 ever.
@@Deecor2 it had a lot to do with the high oil consumption
The 6.2 is one of the most reliable engines Ford has built in the last 20 years. We have four of them in f250s with bale beds that feed cattle all day every in mud and snow. Run gravel roads with very little highway miles. They’re bulletproof.
Yeah but this kid thinks you should waste your money on a piece of crap deisel that'll have constant emissions issues. I don't know anyone that's had problems from a 6.2 but every single person I know that's bought ANY newer deisel has had problems.
Surprised he didn’t go over 6.2’s. I’ve heard there bullet proof and wanted to know his input. Probably would’ve ranked low because there gas hogs but ehh.
They are gas hogs.
2 versions of 6.2 I believe. 6.2 used in super duty was pretty solid. I think the 6.2 offered in the early raptors was a different animal.
Good to hear just bought a 2011 222,000 miles on it how to get ten years out it
No love for the 3.0L Powerstroke... Man that broke my heart. Just cause you ain't gonna win a race don't mean it's not a good engine.
My 2019 3.0 has 121k, so far so good. I get 27 mpgs. I drive mostly highway at 60 mph, not Interstate at 70 mph.
Exactly you can only go so fast on the road anyways (cops) and I don't need so much more power than I would use anyway.The gas mileage and durability is a factor for me.
130 thousand miles on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost got it new and have done my oil changes every 5 thousand miles synthetic with motorcraft oil filters. I like it its still running. Glad I got a 14 with the steel body.
I prefer the driveability of that gen... Cam phasers are an issue, and other than getting the latest parts and spending 3-5K on labour, doing frequent synthetic oil changes, using FL500s filter AND if its been sitting for a while, hold the pedal down and let it crank until you get some oil pressure before you let her fire up.
Yes the 1st gen does have issues with those stupid turbo fitting, and the exhaust manifold bolts... touch wood I only had the former issues, but they were pricy for no real reason other than labour and poor parts.
The 5.0 coyote from 2011 -> 2016 is probably the most bulletproof engine in the F150 lineup... and though I love the 2.7, its just too bad none of these things hold up like a Tundra.
@@vrwgq3q yea, that’s comical with you saying how long the tundra will last with the recall of 100 thousand + engines made for the last 3 yrs🙄😝
Gen 1 - 3.5 with 215k miles
I get 14.5 towing 6,000lbs
Changed the waterpump, heater hose, thermostat, and thats about it.
Maintenance is the KEY.
I have a 2016 3.5 gen 1 Expy el. Almost 180k. Water pump, coil packs, turbo cooler lines. That's it. Amsoil every 8-10k. New trans flush every 30k. I agree, diligent service will pay you rewards.
225k on my 2011 3.5 till I sold it now I'm not sure what to go with lol
301,000 miles on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost. Original engine and transmission. Had to do the Cam phasers and just recently replaced both turbos. Runs like the day i bought it 10 years ago.
@@mikeguajardo395 what went wrong with the turbos? What was the sign you needed to replace them? Was it the waste gates? And what was the cost of you didn't mind me asking. I plan to run my Expy for the LONG haul and I have been looking in all the forums to see what it looks like maintenance wise going 300-400k.
Thanks for any info
My brother in laws 2011 3.5 ran thru 250k, but it did sound like a turbo was ready to go kaboom at that point. Not bad though, he kept his foot in it. My 2011 5.0 was good til I sold it in 2020 at 150k. Replaced a rear main seal at 115k, but that was it. 2020 5.0 replaced it, 60k so far no issues so far.
I'm on my 2nd pickup with a 2.7. No problem with either one and they have great power and gas mileage. It's the best motor Ford makes in my opinion.
Here's an old ford tech with 20yrs experience chiming in... 5.0 coyote, 6.2 hurricane/boss, and the 4.6/5.4 modular are and were the best and most reliable v8's from ford, with regular maintenance
when you refer to the 5.4/4.6 you mean the 2v variants correct ? i own a 2002 f150 lariat
@chimpletcum9349 all variants of the modular.. some early 5.4 2v had an issue with the spark plugs not being torque fully from factory then ripping the threads out.. and the 3v from 05 up actually won awards for their reliability, albeit they also had spark plug issues breaking off because of sparkplug design and ford recommendations of 100k service intervals which those plugs should have been changed at 50k and some cam phase issues... but most 5.4/4.6 are still running with North of 500k miles.. examples taxis, police cruisers, work vans construction trucks. List goes on
The company I work for has a 2009 f250 with the 5.4 3v and it runs great with 350000 miles on the clock
4.6 2 valve in my 06 e260 310,000 miles on original engine and transmission, still running great.
Ive been a Ford tech since 2001, so a little longer than you. And I agree, Ive personally have a Raptor with the 6.2L and that engine is a great, great engine.
Ive also had a 2002 with the 5.4L. Never had a lick of problems
This kid lost me when he said to avoid the 6.2L, that thing is sweet, strong, reliable, powerful, no leaks and no burning oil.
So change oil often on first gen 3.5, check for leaks.. good engine. Got it.
Well maintained 1st gen ❤
I have a 2015 3.5 ecoboost with 157K miles on it, changed the oil every 3.5k-4k miles with high quality full synthetic oil, and I have yet to have any failure or need any repairs. Several family members share my experience with their 3.5 ecoboost Gen1/Gen2. If people simply took the maintenance part more seriously they would find they have very few to no problems.
@@edwardmackey747 Seems like alot of work just to simple maintenance on a turbo engine vs an NA V8. Also what job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that overpriced EcoBoost truck with ease?
@@CJColvin Changing your oil every 4K miles "seems like alot of work" to you? 🤣 I don't see how my job or income matters when we're discussing simple oil changes on my truck, but I'm sure in your pea brain there's a correlation.
Also, the 3.5 and 8 cylinder F150 are less than $800 difference in price when comparing the same exact trim levels.
@@edwardmackey747 Changing the oil isn't alot of work but doing the maintenance on the turbo engines is mate.
Love my 15 2.7! Its a rocket and I still get 19mpg city
24 hwy. I did have to get the oil pan replaced but it was only $300 plus the updated pan with integrated gasket. You guys need to test drive a 2.7. I wish I would have bought a new one back in 2019 before the prices went crazy!
I’m thinking my 2020 2.7 needs a need oil pan. So far mine has been great and is just an impressive motor
I agree rocket is right. 2018 2.7 With the additional 93 octane tune to 375 hp. The aluminum panels on this truck and the light 2.7 engine shave serious weight. There is a reason why you never see this 2.7 in your shop with it's compacted graphite iron block. I mobile synthetic every 3500 miles no excuses.
@@markmihalin5869If it's so good then how come they didn't put one in the Mustang GT and used the 5.0 instead, also why are the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 in the new Bronco blowing up at very low miles?
I have a 20 F150 with the 2.7…had a lot of little problems with it all covered under warranty but it seems to work really good now…it’s good on fuel, drives really nice and has gobs of power!.. only have about 30,000 miles on it and I change the oil every 5000 miles…
I LOVE OUR 2.7 10 speed 3.55 rear end gears since new 5000 kms oil change intervals.
Just bought a new 2023 Tremor with the 5.0. Also have a 2017 expedition. Both are great vehicles.
Good video. My 2019 2.7L with 80K has performed well. No issues.
I’ve had good luck with the 2019 2.7 I’ve got 60k on it no problems
I’ve got a 15 with 120k miles 5 star tuned. No issues other than the oil pan leak
@@justinlamb3822You aren't cool unless you have an oil leak ❤
@@mr.monitor. lol I finally fixed it 2 weeks ago. Guess I’m not cool anymore 😔
Awesome content Mason,its good that Ford offers choices.I've had a 2.7 in a 15,3.5 in a 17 ,and now 3.5 in a 19.Only engine related issue was a thermostat on my current 3.5 at 60000miles/100000kms.All great and my brother has a 5.0 in his 17 and that one great as well!! I do like the PowerBoost as well,especially with its on board power
Got a 2017 F150 2.7 bought new. Absolutely NO problems at 100,000. Actually the whole truck....replaced tires and brakes, did have a caliper sticking and replaced that. That's It! Love this truck
I have a 2017 with 186k oil change tires and brakes. Also I’m the original owner. Had 35 miles on it. Biggest thing I do is start the truck and let it warm up.
I have a 2018 and the only thing I’ve had to do is replace a sensor. I’m at 85k
Had my right caliper sticking too. Only problem so far at 109,000 miles. Came to this video because my 2016 2.7 worries me, but this video gave me great piece of mind!
I own a 2015 2.7 I bought new. I've used pickups in the kitchen remodeling business for the last 40 plus years. It's the best truck I've owned by far. 194,000 miles and uses no oil.
I have a 2015 2.7 ecoboost. I bought it new. The driver side turbo went out at about 100k miles. Other than that, it has been rock solid.
I've got a 2013 f1titty 3.5 ecoboost with 400 thousand miles all original rust free. Still on the road to this day...purrs like a 😸
any particular driving habits? oil change intervals? n
what octane have u used mainly lol
@omar4032 first thing you do is drill a 16th hole in the intercooler keeps all the moisture out of the combustion chamber. This is because the intercooler is in the wrong location. 2nd don't drive the twin turbo like an old lady they need to boost. 3rd change the oil every 4 thousand miles...add 1 quart of pure synthetic Lucas in every oil change. Use Motorcraft oils only....4th change the LEAD FRAME immediately...5th watch it go over 700 thousand miles on original motor....
@@TheLawlessGang it's all about maintenance...my 2001 7.tree f2shity has 870 thousand miles all original..still stroking and purrs like a kitten 😸.. 13 letter shitspreader INTERNATIONAL best diesel ever made...
@@mattvanatti4628 Just sold my '02 F250 7.3 with 345K, mainly because driver's seat had massive hole & also because I don't pull anything anymore. Went to someone that will keep her working on a farm. Was stick except for DP Tuner 5 way chip to put that big turbo to work.
@@mattvanatti4628 I doubt the EcoBoost will last to 700,000 miles without any failure.
I have a 2012 eb and a 2020 5.0... both since new... Love em!
my 3.0 diesel has been the best truck i've owned. Crazy fuel economy on the highway, and i've had no issues. I had more issues with my 6.2 F350, and my 2011 5.0, but my 3.0 has yet to fail me even one time after 5 years and 127,000 miles. Just have to keep up on your maintenance, use good fuel (add lube), and run it. doesn't burn a lick of oil, and runs as smooth as it did on day one.
Fellow 3.0 owner here. Went from had two 2.7EB f-150s (company vehicles) and I loved them but the diesel has that torque right when you want it. It is NOT SLOW and I've been getting 26mpg mixed driving. Reliable, smooth and I just hit 170,000kms (110000miles).
I've got 154,000 on my 3.0 and love it. Only issue was an intake hose.
I purchased a used 2017 F150 5.0 2wd king ranch super crew used and I love her. I replaced the torque converter and a heater hose and she has 160,000 miles, with a 5 star tune. Added 2023 tremor shocks up front and air bags on the rear. She has never failed me. Great power and the 6R80 has never given me issues
Why did put the airbags ?
@@BrunoBorges704 I'd guess that it's likely being used as a work truck, he's loading it up with alot of weight, either in the truck, or pulling a heavy trailer, or perhaps both.
Great truck
@@BrunoBorges704 sage. Had 6000lbs on her and she had a lot of sage
I’m 60, have 12 cars, 4 cycles, etc…I have never had a bad vehicle and have no allegiance to any brand as they have all been good. I’m on my 8th F150 (3 have been 3.5 ecoboost) and the 9th (Powerboost) gets picked up next Thursday. Most have only been 150k mile trucks because I use them for work and I get bored, but several of my other rides have 300k miles as do some other F150’s we have at work. General rule is 5K mile full synthetic oil changes and keep them clean. Other than that, I use them to the max…I drive aggressive, donuts, disable traction control, tow, 4 wheel, overload, etc. Not sure why people have so many issues…I never have any.
If the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is so good then how come Ford didn't put the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in the Super Duty as a base gas engine?
@@CJColvin Displacement. Read this" From what I recall, they ran one for testing purposes only, and while it could make "enough" power for a basic truck, the mpg economy was actually worse. If you run a turbo ecoboost engine in full boost, or near full boost mode most of the time (to drive around the larger, heavier truck chassis), the mpg will actually work out to be less than the "traditional" V8 (6.2 or 7.3 gas).
And for the guys that do work their 250/350 trucks hard, the poor little "hair dried" ecoboost suffered premature failures, complaints of poor power, and for a truck engine, where you typically want your power band on the low side of the rpm range, you had to "scream" the little ecoboost (rev it at high rpm) for it to make the power to get work done.
Overall, not a harmonious engine package for a truck that was designed to work for a living." from www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/why-no-ecoboost-in-the-f250.456815/
@@rastapastrychief Agreed 100% brother
@@CJColvin why isn’t he your mate?😖😝
@@pathunter7003 Spoken like a true libtard.
I got a 2012 3.5 with 196,000 miles, no issues, no leaks, been a great truck, hopefully it can make it to 300,000 k, oil changes every 5K
It will if you’re using a good synthetic oil and filter. My 2011 has 465,000 and still sounds and runs great
This guy is epically full of shit.
He literally states all of the issues are from lack of maintenance. So blame the engine? Silly.
I was a Ford tech for 20 years. They were great engines. I did see several broken manifold bolts but all the manufacturers have that issue.
There are so many techs who decide something is bad because they work on them alot. Well, they sold millions of the things so maybe you will see lots of them?
I have a 2012 3.5 Eco with 137K that’s only needed a fuel pump after 6 years owning it. It’s been through plenty of towing and snow. I do full synthetic every 4k miles.
Ford engines don't even call for full synthetic. They call for synthetic blend.
@@BrandonMingerink that’s just a minimum requirement but the oil filter is the one thing most people forget about. A synthetic media type filter should be used in these engines because of the small oil passages in certain parts of the engine and internal engine components. The filter that’s offered in these quick lube places only has a 40 micron filtration which is fine for some vehicles that are older and change the oil every 3,000 miles. 40 micron filtration is not adequate for these variable valve timing engines, especially the turbo charged engines. 40 micron carbon particles are what build up in those passages,on the back side of the valves and in the turbo chargers. A synthetic blend oil with a synthetic oil filter changed at 5,000 miles is adequate for 150,000 miles or more depending on the quality of the oil and filter, and driving conditions.
I love my 2016 F150 with a V8. It took me nine months to find one with a perfectly documented maintenance history, but it was worth the wait, and I also got a great price.
Same here! I got a V8 2016 XLT, bought it March 2023 with only 17500 miles, one owner perfect service history. Best 30k ever spent
Forsure, same mpg as gen 1 i think not lol. Most reliable engine. It doesn't have turbos plenty of people changing those on both ecoboost
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@@justingill5256Agreed 100% brother
@@CJColvin 😝😝😝
Great info. I've always said when I buy a new/newer vehicle, I would rather talk to the mechanic than the salesperson. Salesperson just wants to sell you a vehicle, but a mechanic will tell you potential problems they see (no vehicle is perfect and all will have problems, it's just what problems can i expect). Watching from WI.
You are so correct salesman are blanks
I remember a long time ago (probably around 2006) I was looking for a car and a salesman was trying to get me to look at other stuff that's not in my price range. So I felt like he was testing my gangsta. 😂
He walks me over to a Mini cooper S, it's a 6-speed. So he pops the hood and I'm looking at it and see a supercharger on top of it. So I challenged his knowledge about the engine and asked him "What's this piece on top?" he tells me know doesn't know. I ask him "What does SOHC and DOHC means? What displacement is the engine? Is this FWD or RWD?" He tells me he doesn't know. I'm just sitting there shaking my head. Then he breaks down and tells me he really doesn't know anything about the cars on the lot, he's just trying to make a sale.
In 2019 I bought a 2014 F150 FX4 Supercab with 40,000 miles on it. Has the 5.0 1st generation. Love it.
Your video is excellent. I’ve always been strict about changing oil at recommended intervals. Change mine at 5,000 miles; I do mostly city miles, stop and start every mile or less.
You’ve armed me with knowledge of what to anticipate or look for. I’ll watch more closely for oil leaks.
Took me 45 minutes to watch your video; I kept rewinding to take pen/paper notes! 😼
Any transmission issues? I hit issues after I got to 100k miles
Gen 1 ecoboost. 230k. No issues you mentioned.
Best truck ever. Change oil every 5k.
2011 f250 6.2-6R140. 210k miles original engine and trans. cab never been off.
But does it massage your back ? That's what the kids want these days . Till it breaks
I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 3.5 ecoboost. It has 307126 miles The issue I have with it is vvt Rattle, but it only goes sometimes. And I love my truck.
The question is will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra?
I have a 2011 f150 with 153k miles and I do uber with it every once in awhile!!! I love this truck and its is what you said…..oil Changes is key. Plus there are so many 1st gen 3.5 with 300k already
you have to take it from his point of view. he's a tech, they only see bad things. my 3.5EB has 189k and never had a crazy issue. my valve cover does leak, but not enough to make me worry about taking care of it yet. my turbo coolant line on the driver side has started to leak slowly, but it's winter and i just keep the coolant topped off every 2 - 3 weeks, it takes maybe 16oz to bring it back up. i'll take care of it come spring, but other than that, solid since i've owned it.
@@ViewlessSquid thats a good point…
465,000 on my 2011 3.5
@@ViewlessSquid the o-ring on the hose going to the coolant tank, sorry
@@stephenbloom2545 that’s awesome. Good to see these motors last.
I will just keep driving my 2002 Silverado with a 5.3 only has 120k miles, my buddy has one with 400,000 and half that was towing a trailer and zero engine problems
i been ford tech for 39 years and i drive f150 with 2.7. love the power and gas mileage and reliability.this is the most sold engine in f150 and least problems we see.
Great content, very informative especially owning 3 F-150’s
2015 V-8
2017 3.5L ecoboost
2019 3.5L ecoboost
We have a 2016 transit with the 3.5 EcoBoost and so far it’s been a champ, I’m also following my mechanic’s advice and doing very frequent oil changes. No engine issues so far. Love it and it has a 0-60 of 6.4s in a 15 passenger van 😂
How often do you change your oil? I have a 23 navigator L. 3.5TT
@@riolaflare7180 Every 3k if towing heavily with my 16 3.5 and regular driving around 5k
@@riolaflare7180 5k, oil is cheap but engines aren't 😅
The question is will it outlast the legendary Econoline Vans?
@@reubentalbott Yer the Transit Van ain't as robust as the Ford Econoline Van nor can tow as the Econoline.
Good to hear the base V6 doesn't have any drama, have had the 3.7 version since it came out in 2011 and have had 0 issues with it.
I'm guessing you meant 2.7 lol. I was in same boat brother, just got a 2019 2 years ago. So I was glad to hear that it's a good motor according to him anyway. 🙏🏼🤞
@buckguy1215 nah I have 3.7 N/A duratec from 2011-14
Same here, I have a 2014 with 90k+ miles and no problems. Tows my little 17 ft trailer (3000 lb) as if it's not there, goes 80 on the highway when I'm not and is comfortable enough to drive 650 mile trips. It goes plenty fast when you poke it, I am very happy with it.
I love my 3.5 v6 Flexfuel. Its kinda slow but i never heard any problems with them which makes me happy
I really enjoy watching your videos, i own a 2020 3.5 ecoboost f150 and so far I'm just over 20k miles without any issues yet. I've put a catch can on it and a cobb tune and it's an absolute beast.
I bought the 2021 powerboost and absolutely love it. Got about 2ok miles on it with no problem. I change the oil every 3k miles, don’t care what they recommend. This truck has so much utility and you didn’t mention pro power onboard. I live on a farm in NC and this truck has powered my house multiple times when a bad storm knocks the power out.
that’s incredible
Great video. But I’m curious to why you didn’t mention the oil consumption issue on the gen 3 5.0s? It’s such a common and we’ll known problem with the 2018-2020 coyotes.
Or the turbos on 3.5 and 2.7 also gen 2 gets way better mpg over gen 1 5.0
@@justingill5256 no mention of turbo problems because there aren’t any to speak of. The 2.7 is a very reliable engine, a bit better than a 3.5
@@paulhunter9613 had to laugh when the 2.7 was dinged in the rating for not seeing many of them in the service bay, seems like a positive to me. Being cheaper than the 3.5 and 5.0 I have to believe they have a larger marketshare, though I haven't seen the numbers.
I am the original owner of an almost 15 year old F150 that’s been a reliable and relatively trouble free truck. I cannot overstate that proper maintenance is the key! I had the valve covers off it for the first time last year and the 5.4 still looked clean, shiny, and like new inside thanks to proper interval oil changes.
Yep, the three valves had a bad rep but almost all of the ones with issues hadn’t been properly maintained.
My 05 stx was flawless until I was tboned in it 6 years ago
5 years an 90,000 later on my 2018 2.7 and I would have bought the same truck. Great on fuel, great for towing my 5th wheel in the summer. I took advice from a ford Tech and cut all the recommended service intervals in half. Zero problems it still runs like new. I'd say the biggest improvement on the Gen-2 2.7Lfrom the gen-1 2.7L is the dual port injection. The gen 1 was only direct port and I was worried about carbon buildup on the valves.
I have 350,000 miles on my 2013 5.0 F150 super crew and it still runs like the day I bought it and I tested both motors when I bought my truck new. The Ecoboost was a little faster but sounded like a sewing machine and at the time it had a bad reputation for motor problems that I wasn't willing to roll the dice on. I knew I was going to be keeping my truck for a long time and that the Ecoboost with its reputation wasn't going to last as long. IMO the Coyote 5.0 is one of the best motors Ford has ever made.
Hi Mayson, really enjoyed your video. It's nice to have someone with such knowledge who can articulate their thoughts in a video. Thanks! Here's my sub and a thumbs up
Isn’t the fact that he has barely seen any 2.7Ls a testament to their reliability? Looks like the dealers are selling a lot of these trucks, so I wonder if it’s actually more reliable than the others?
6 yrs now and all that’s been needed is oil changes for my ‘18 , 2.7
I love your videos.. I baught a 2018 5.0 love it till this day change my oil every 3k miles and it runs good
Thank you!
The 2.7l Ecoboost is a cool engine but I worry about the longevity of then oil pump belt. It’s submerged in oil which makes no sense to me. The 1.0l ecoboost is the same way. Ford should have used a chain, imo.
After watching these types of videos and working on modern day diesels all day, im really glad both my 86 mustang and 85 e150 have carbureted roller cam 302s mated to a t5 transmission. The new stuff isn't nearly as fun to work on like the old cars were
2024 Regular cab f-150 XL 6 1/2’ bed 4wd with 5.0 only way I’d buy one
Great video! I’ll be looking at getting an f150 in the next few years and the 5.0 is all I’ll take even before I watched this video. Love learning more about all of the others as well
the gas mileage is around 12 mpg on the 5.0 liter. they suck a n d cant pass a gas station on the highway. i bought a 2018 and live my 3.3 liter non turbo. i haul a 7000 pound skid steer and get 20 mpg on the highway 16 around town. its a rock crusher. empty 23 mpg highway and 19 around towwn with a 6 speed trans o and its 4 wheel drive too.
@@rockymartin2179 I’m actually driving the 5.0 as a loaner while my ranger is being worked on. I’m averaging 17 myself ( 21 on highway after my trip yesterday) and it’s mostly city style driving with no payload other than myself and at 600ft elevation. Mostly flat roads with small hills. Are you really only getting 12?
I'm a senior master Ford tech. Its the highest level certification you can get from Ford. If someone tells you not to buy a late model F150 5.0, its very good advice. The F150 is one of the most complicated vehicles ever made. You have 2 completely separate fuel injection systems, 2 fuel pumps. 4 cams, 4 cam phasers, 3 timing chains, an unreliable 10 speed transmission that takes special fluid, the dipstick is in code, and it has to be hooked up to a computer to monitor the fluid temperature that must be between 210-216 degrees just to set the level, otherwise you'll have drivability issues. Constant door latch issues, Constant camera issues with a calibration process that has to be seen to believe, constant vibration issues, a computer system with over 50 modules on the network that would make NASA jealous, and a telematics system that calls Ford every time your check engine light, or any other type of fault occurs, and you get a phone call from Dearborn MI telling you to take the truck in to the dealership for immediate service. There's a few other issues as well, but aside from that, its not too bad.
The loaner you have looks great and drives beautiful. I get it. Its not foolish to want one. But if you saw the hell we put our customers through, you simply wouldn't believe it. If you must have an F150 with a 5.0, here's my advice as a Ford tech. There are 2 major engine editions for the 5.0. A 302 and a 307. The 302 is either a gen 1 or gen 2 motor. It has 1 fuel injection system (port, not direct), and it gets matched to a very reliable 6 speed transmission. Gen 3's and up are 307's. If you want all that crap I listed above, buy a 307. I can definitely recommend the 302. They do have some issues, but its not the nightmare that the 307 is.
Or why not keep the Ranger? I'd rather have that over an F150. If its a 2.3, the base engine is a Mazda L series. Ford takes the base motor and puts the Eccoboost system on it, but the short block is a Mazda, and they make very good engines. I'm a certified Mazda tech as well, so I've worked on quite a few of them.
'17 5.0 6spd... best mpg has been 21+ strictly highway. City/Highway I'm getting 19 easy. This is calculated at the pump btw.
Keep in mind... I do drive like a little old lady... besides the weekly Italian Tune-up my truck gets!!😅
Looove the 5.0
Turn that key and it's an instant smile on my face. Sounds so GOOD!!!
I get 16-17 average on my 2023 5.0 and I stomp it to the floorboard and pass people constantly...
I’ve never seen your videos before but I loved this, extremely educational and you didn’t over explain anything. Definitely subscribing
My 2012 3.7 has 347k miles hauling heavy topper with side toolboxes and heavy duty ladder rack mounted on top.
I bought a 2024 Powerboost a week ago. I agree...the power and torque is insane! I hope buying a hybrid won't bite me in the rear-end. I love it so far.
I traded in a 2013 5.0L which was pampered with 6K oil changes. At about the same time, a friend bought a 2013 with a Gen 1 Ecoboost. I enjoyed years of trouble-free driving while my friend had numerous major engine issues with his truck. My gut told me then that the Ecoboost was too new and I should let others suffer through the failures. My dad would never buy cars with power windows because he said, "It's just another thing that'll break." I inherited this gene. LOL
Thanks for the great video.
As a fellow Ford tech, I agree that the 5.0 and gen2 3.5 are the best engines to get. Maintenance is the key to a healthy high mileage engine.
Why the gen 2 3.5 over the 2.7l?
@@barrthom603 the oil pan on the 2.7 tends to leak, and while the 3.5 does have the cam phaser issue the updated design pretty much solves that as long as maintenance is kept up.
We don’t see much of either in the shop I work at, so both are good so long as you take care of the known issues. The 3.5 just tends to do better over time.
@@barrthom603Stay away from the 307's because they're nightmares. They can burn up to a qt of oil every 500 miles. The 3.5 and 2.7 are about the same. They both give problems, but you usually don't have to replace the motors. The 2.7 has less VVT issues but coolant tends to get into the turbos. The 10 speeds have a lot of problems as well.
@@callmegeorge the oil pan leaks on the five oh also
@@AT-wl9yq Chevy bot
Great video. I have a 2018xlt super crew with a 2.7ecoboost. I drive 60 mile a day for work and average 19-20 mpg. I do my oil changes every 6k miles . Been very happy with it.
It’s the best engine ford puts out there, I have the same. Never had issues.
@@phillipbaker2082Really been thinking of getting one myself. Looks like a really good engine
You go that long on oil ?? Even with synthetic I go still 3k you got a turbo
@jeffwoods9666 True, I also do my oil change every 3k miles
I love your knowledge and recommendations. Needless to say, I own a 2013 Ford F-150 Super Crew FX4 3.5L EB with the 6-speed. 84k miles. Thee only issue I have had in my 4 years of ownership is the switch to my electronic locking rear diff failed 6 months ago. My best truck ever.
I have a 2013 fx4 super crew with the 3.5 also. I have 232000 miles on her. Only issue I have had was water pump went out at around 150k. Plenty of power. Been a good pick up
How often do you change the oil? I just bought a 2014 3.5 ecoboost and was really excited about it until I saw this video. It has 100k miles and oil changes (on the carfax anyway) are around every 10k miles. I'm hoping I can just do oil changes every 5k and I'm going to take a look at the intake valves and clean them if needed and that is enough to get me through 50k miles without problems. I plan to upgrade before 50k miles anyway, and I also want to be confident that it is still going strong when I sell it.
Love my 2017 3.5 L eco-boost backed with a 10 speed 85,000 miles still no issues great running truck.
Ps I change my oil religiously at 5000 miles.
Very very good news about the 2.7l ecoboost.
The 2.7 should've been a 9/10.
The 3.7 is actually quite good at towing. I had a 2014 with the 3.7 for 3 years, and the ONLY time I didn't regret buying that pig was with a trailer behind it.
I was looking online and only saw 3.5 for the new 2024 XLT.. why is 2.7 only available for STX?
@@jescobaar because Ford wants to pay for a XLT to get it.
@@jescobaar the 2.7 is the base engine now, it’s available with multiple models
Great video! I love my 2019 F-150 with the 5.0L Coyote, paired with the 10R80 transmission. The only powertrain issue I’ve had (after 69K miles) with the 5.0L was the first problem you listed - the VCT solenoids. Easy warranty fix, though. Overall, the truck runs like a beast, especially with my Oz Omega X tune.
No oil consumption? Lucky
All I know is that my 2005 F150 from the Virginia plant has run like a champ. Only replaced batteries, starter and serpentine belt ! Kept the fluids changed religiously !
As a tech I like your clips, never over the top and pretty straight forward and well presented. I have the 2020 F150 with the 5.0 and the 10 spd, engine is great but the 10 speed I hate . I tow a lot and it never stops shifting, while it is super smooth listening to it drives me nuts. I would much rather the 6 spd. I have tried to drive it in manual mode and it still annoys the hell outa me. Old or new oil changes are key to long life and low trouble, I change my diesel and my 5.0 every 6ooo miles regardless of what the oil life indication tells me. It saves money in the long run. Keep the vids coming , they are great .
Great video. Had a 2013 3.5 eco boost with 3.73 gears. 4x4. Never any problems. Traded it in at 83k for 2023 Ford Eco boost 3.5 with 3.55 gears. Pull travel trailer and always did me a great job. I also did my maintenance regularly and used amsoil after 10,000 miles. Change at 7500 miles
@@RetiredClay What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that EcoBoost F150 with ease?
@@CJColvin Had a full time job and part time job. Saved and tried not to over spend I did upgrade to F-250 6.7 liter Hope it’s my last truck 🇺🇸👍
@RetiredClay Very nice
Great video! Really appreciate the honesty. I'm hoping my 2.7 Ecoboost lasts many years and miles. New truck prices are crazy.
The used truck prices are pretty scary too.
I bought my 2017 XLT 3.5L EB/10R80 SuperCrew Fx4 last May, it's a TX Edition with 20" wheels. I originally wanted the 5.0L Coyote but after doing some reading and research, the 3.5 started looking better for my needs. I started getting cam phaser rattle last November, not too bad yet but I can tell it's starting.
First thing I did was add an oil catch can, then driver's side rear seat back release, an oil change and filters at 64% oil life remaining (so I'd know what's in it),
new BFG A/T KO2s to replace the worn out street tires it came with. So far I love the engine, the transmission default mode gets annoying in town with frequent shifts and it's less responsive on take offs but Sport Mode takes care of those issues. I only use default mode on the interstate and some parts on highways.
Overall, I absolutely love this truck. It's the smoothest riding vehicle I've ever owned with plenty of power for my needs, more than enough cabin space for comfort and secure/dry storage for luggage and groceries (especially with the rear seat bases folded up). The 5.5' bed is a trade off: sucks if I need to haul lumber but okay for hauling brush, trash to the dump, etc. The ONLY time I wish I had something smaller is when I have to park downtown (Nashville). I think they base parking spaces on Smart Cars and Fiats.
Watch your exhaust on cold starts. If its white, you're burning coolant. It leaks and gets into the turbos. If you catch it early its usually not a big deal, but don't let it go. Also, check your trans fluid regularly. You can't let that go either.
If you do your own maintenance, changing the oil on the 2.7 is easy. The filter is under the hood. Just be careful you don't burn yourself draining the oil.
I agree with the 3.5, but in my opinion the gen 1 3.5 with proper maintenance should make it to 200k before needing the work you talked about. Personally did all that to mine at 200k Still going strong at 250k
OMG DUDE. Just came across your vid and being a 2020 2.7 with 17800 F-150 I'm getting the bug for a new F150. I had a 5.0 before and really just love the sound of a 8 compared to my 2.7. Just drove a 24 for testing with 5.0 lariat blacked out and geez I fell in love. That thing is Pure sweet. Thing holding me back at moment is dam high interest rates. Thanks for info for me to think about on what engine I should actually look at. I subscribed and look forward to your vids.
I had a 2009 mazda 5 2.3l ...went to the scrap heap with a worn out transaxle at 530,000 miles...oil changes 7,000-10,000 mile intervals...never used a drop of oil & i beat that thing to death...wish I'd taken better care of it
Im super convinced that most of the ecoboost problems come from lack of maintenance and lack of understanding of how important frequent QUALITY oil changes are. I do have the leaky turbo coolant fitting that i need to fix but it has been a great truck and i tow with it regularly.
My grandfather, a lifetime auto mechanic, told me, "You can change your oil or change your engine!
@@nateg08 Or maybe it's because it ain't as well built nor durable as the 5.6L Endurance V8 in the Nissan Titan as well as the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the 07-21 Toyota Tundra.
@CJColvin well the titan is going away, and Toyota went to a tt v6 as well. As I remember, Ford had its issues with the 3.5 but they didn't have to replace 100,000 engines like Toyota just did because they were failing at 30k miles.
Also, "ain't" isn't a word. I don't care if they put it in the dictionary.
@@nateg08 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the reason why I bought the Nissan Titan cause I didn't want cylinder deactivation nor auto stop start as well as the stupid twin turbos, the reason the Titan is going away is because of the poor marketing from Nissan.
@@nateg08 you can't spool that thing up for 30 seconds and just shut it right! The turbo is still spinning after you cut the truck off!!
Just traded in my 2012 3.5 f150 for my newer 2022 2.7 f150. I'm really glad you said you wouldn't keep anybody from buying this smaller engine if it fits your needs. Only thing I tow is my motorcycle. I thought I would notice having less horsepower than my 2012...but the 2022 2.7L paired with the ten speed... It is a beast imo and I have been really happy with it so far. As a former Ford mechanic I know to keep up on the maintenance especially oil changes. With that I'm excited to see if I can get well over 200k miles like my 2012. Great informative video!!
Great videos! The first time I rented a home depot truck and it had a 10speed. That things was insane awesome and soooo smooth and like you said, keeps them right in the power. Perfectly. 😀
2012 ecoboost 3.5l 185k miles---original cam phasers. I change my oil and add zinc additive to each oil change.
I have Gen 1 3.5 in a 2014 FX4 with 200k miles, runs strong oil changes every 5k miles. Only thing i've replaced on this truck is valve cover gaskets, and the hub actuators. As long as you maintain your vehicle it'll last.
Had a 2015 3.5 EB just sold it with 235,000 miles on it, was the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned.
My 2009 platinum has about 200.000 on it an it rides great I change the oil every 4.000 or about five motor craft oil or Castro that's it
@@noahhiserIf it's so good then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
What an awesome video, thank you for sharing your insights on the 10R80. I definitely had my concerns with it, but now that I understand some of the issues and costs of what it would take to overhaul it. Please keep making these amazing videos!
Over the summer, I bought a new F150. One of my requirements was the V8 because I have no experience with turbo engines and didn't want the added complexities and cost if the turbos go bad. I'm glad to hear the V8 is pretty solid.
I changed the oil at around 3k miles and plan to do so around every 5k from now on.
As to the ten speed transmission, it takes some getting used to, especially when it skips 2nd gear. But otherwise, I can't complain.
Exactly how I am... v8, no turbo. Super happy with my 2020 Lariat.
V8 is must. They're hard to find.. @@leechburglights
Love my Coyote 5.0 in my 2023 Tremor. Perfect truck.
@gnarlytothemax you can say that again. Try looking for a 5.0 Lariat with the 6.5' bed. Absolutely non existent. I got amazingly lucky when one became available, was a 2020, and located 25 miles away. The others were an 8 hour drive to go pickup. I was watching for 6 months.
Hope you don’t want to tow anything. The 5.0 is a high revving mustang motor and you can’t have a conversation in the cabin while towing. The 3.5 runs around 2500 towing the 5.0 screams at 5500-6000 rpm while towing. Great mustang motor not so good for trucks
The 3.5 is a much better truck motor than the 5.0. It tow effortlessly and as you heard him say 8/10 rating. Are you guys from the Stone Age? Turbos have been on diesels forever and you’d probably buy a diesel. Just make sure you do your oil changes and as the mechanic said the 3.5 is just as reliable as the 5.0 BUT it can tow where the 5.0 is terrible at towing ‘it has to work harder and it’s way noisier
My dad got a 21 F150 platinum 5.0 10r80. Really a nice truck. Glad to know they’re solid
Great video. I have a gen 1 3.5 EB (2016) since 18k miles. i now have 78k. i ended my 10k mile oil change at 70k and started changing oil at 5k. Love this truck. no issues ever. I especially love the aluminum oil pan instead of the plastic one in 2017 EB. im shocked you ranked it the lowest. i plan to never get rid of mine.
“… my high ridiculous fees”
I can respect the honesty. 😂
I mean hes just the worker he doesn't set the rates. I know my rate (completely different industry) is about 300 an hour. I only see 25 of that
You really know your stuff; thank you for sharing all of this great info as usual. I have a 2021 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost and I change oil religiously on it every 4k. Amsoil full synthetic, is that way overkill, yes, do I care, no.
I use Amsoil signature series oil with their 25,000 mile filter. I change mine every 12 to 15,000 miles and I’m up to 465,000 miles but that’s just me. The way you are going that thing will never quit.
@@stephenbloom2545Damn what are you using it for?!
@1:59: I have a 2013 with the 6.2L…. Great engine
I appreciate your expert advice on the Ford F 150’s. However, I have a 2012 F150 3.5 Ecoboost with 297,000 miles. The tranny was not much to brag about. Rebuilt it at 164,000 miles but had been a constant problem since I bought the truck new, till I rebuilt it. The engine though has been AMAZING!! Changed the radiator, water pump, coils and plugs. Other than that, no problem. With regular maintenance it runs like new.
My first F150 was the 2020 with the 5.0 and 10 speed. I got one that had the oil usage issue. They did the TSB with the re-flash on the computer as well as the longer dip stick. Never stopped consuming oil. I would have to add a quart every 1500 to 2000 miles. The transmission was a mess also. They finally put a new valve body in it. It got a little better for a while but then went back to slamming on downshifts and upshifts. One of the roughest shifting transmissions I have ever owned. It also hunted for gears constantly. These were just the main issues with this truck. I traded it off with 35000 miles on it for a 2023 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. Only have about 13000 on it so far. The engine seems to be fine and has a lot of power as well as good gas mileage. The transmission on the other hand shifts about as rough as the 2020, but at least it does not hunt for gears all the time. So far I am not too impressed with Ford quality. Have already had 2 recalls on the 2023.
Yeah, I was surprised when he talk obout 10 speed transmission.
Look like I’m not the only one that issues on 2020
My 2011 f150 Lariat with the 5.0 is the best truck ford ever made I have 260k runs like new and the older 5.0 is the easiest motor to work on, I was gonna buy a new truck and realized I can't get a better truck
I ve got 188k on my v8 2014 f150 😂great truck, smooth running, good rid, bought it from a construction company, it had no codes, on the scan tool, other then rust its super fantastic truck