A trick I came across. Take aluminum foil, push it underneath the exhaust pipe that runs behind the fluid pan, mold the foil in a manner that it creates a funnel, or channel. When the fluid starts to flow out of the back of the pan, that foil will channel the fluid into your catch pan. It keeps the trans fluid from getting all over your exhaust pipe and ground/floor.
If anyone ever has doubts about this guy, you are wrong this guy is the BEST. Followed his video on Timing chains and valve cover gaskets and followed it, came out perfect... This guy is a savior to ford
Excellent video clear and complete! Just completed my trans fluid & filter change on my 2010 F150 5.4 no problems went just as you described. saved me lots money!
Watched this video no less than 10x and had it on while I did the job. I was listening to you say 'don't forget to put the magnet back in the pan' just as I was walking back to the truck to reinstall the pan.... without the magnet 😂 keep this video on loop while doing the job it might save you. So far these videos have helped me change the rear diff fluid, front diff fluid, transfer case fluid, slip yoke lube and now trans fluid. All 1st time doing this type of maintenance. Next job water pump and coolant flush
You've got some of the best videos on the web. I do a lot of work out of my garage, (mostly Ford, drive Ford and work for Ford) and I like to look to see if other people have done the repair/service that I'm working on to see if there are any issues or special tools needed, thanks for being so informative.
Great instructional video. I think its important to refill with the Mercon LV made by Motorcraft like you mentioned. Why go through all the trouble of doing this yourself, if you are going to put aftermarket fluid back in to save a few dollars. I took a Ford truck into a Transmission specialist to change the fluid several years ago. They put some generic brand crap back in, and I had trouble with it shifting into overdrive 6 months later. I ended up trading it in at the dealership to avoid a costly repair. I also took another Ford vehicle into a mechanic shop to change a thermostat for the water pump. They added back red radiator fluid that they had laying around the shop. I asked specifically for the Motorcraft Gold fluid when I dropped it off. Later, I drained the radiator myself and added the correct fluid in it. If you want anything done right, do it yourself after doing your research.
Just finished my 2010 F-150 5.4 (150K km just shy of 100K miles) and thanks to your video I got through it. The rear bolts, especially the pass side, were a real bitch with barely enough room for a socket. I thought I had rounded one and would have to take it to the dealer but went back at it and found a angle where I could get to it. Thanks so much for your videos they are helping me and lots of others keep their trucks on the road when it's difficult to get anyone to work on them.
I just finished my pan drop and fluid refill. Followed your instructions to the letter. Matter of fact, had your video on my iphone playing and pausing as me and my buddy were under my F150 dropping it. It was EXACTLY like you say. A little messier for me but had plenty of cardboard under it. The pump your recommended worked perfectly as well. I measured my fluid and I replaced exactly 6 quarts. Weird, it was exactly minus what missed the drain pan. I had a replacement filter on hand but decided not to use it because the foam inner part looked good. I will use it for my 60K change. I feel good knowing my trans pan is free of contaminants. I hope to have this truck till 200,000 miles. THanks again !
Thanks for the video! I recently purchased a 2012 F150 with 81,000 miles, and I'm looking to do a fluid change because it's been my experience that when transmissions fail, it's because nobody bothered to change the fluid.
I have been meaning to comment for quite some time. I just want to thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have used your videos several times to support my shade tree mechanic projects. You have provided me the confidence and know how to take on projects that would concern many folks. I have been able to make several repairs with no issues due to your information. My next project will be replacing the Trans bulkhead seals. Keep it up. Thanks!!
Good video, I would add that it's a good idea to take a good look at the pump bridge. It's the plastic piece between the pump and valve body next to where the filter goes into the pump. I have run across the light colored bridges cracking and causing issues. the replacement bridge is black plastic and a lot better design and is less likely to crack. I always enjoy your videos, thank you
Thx for doing these videos for the guys that cant afford to take it to a mechanic, i like to do most of the work on my truck and your videos help alot thx man😎
I just wanted to send out a huge thank you for posting this, the bulkhead sleeve video, and the followup videos. Of course, I installed the bulkhead sleeve incorrectly which meant I'd get that wrench icon at odd times while driving around. After watching the all the videos one last time, I remeasured the sleeve and found that mine was ~20mm sticking out and not the 16mm that you showed. So, one more drop of the pan and a little more pressure on the sleeve while pushing up on the plastic clip and it just “felt better” and more engaged. All is good now and I have piece of mind. My truck is a 2009 F150 FX4 5.4L with 3.73 rear axle and max tow package. I just bought a 8,200lb RV trailer (as measure on the manufacturer's scale on yellow sticker) and if I account for the stuff that's in there, I figure I'm up to 9,400lbs. I tow it 8 to 10 times a year with weight distribution hitch and brake controller on weekend warrior type trips. According to the trailer guide, I'm good up to 11,200lbs. I like to pay more attention to the GCW which is 17,100lbs. I could throw out a lot more numbers and “what ifs” but, the end result is that I'm ~1500 lbs under the GCWR after accounting for passengers, dog, tools, not much fresh water, etc... I like to know if you had an opinion of towing on the upper end of what Ford says I can tow?
I'll second the importance of factory fluids. Drain and fill 3 times on a vehicle with valvoline fluid, started shuddering almost immediately, added aftermarket friction modifiers which helped, but the shudder eventually came back. Drain and filled 3 times with factory fluid, shudder faded away. Lesson learned. I will not mess with aftermarket fluids ever again.
Thank You ! My 2016 f-150 has the 6R80 with the FT-200 filter, 2 outlets on that one. 2 magnets as well. 6 quarts LV, filled it cold, actually looks over full. Guess I will start it for a minute, see if it goes down a bit
Frustrating dealing with the dealer. I scheduled an appointment for a fluid change and they scheduled me for the quick lube lane. Nope, changed it to the service shop for a mechanic to do it. CS reps don't seem to know much. I'm glad I watched this video, thank you. Won't ever do a flush now. I enjoy watching your videos. Happy 4th of July.
All of your videos are the best on TH-cam. I watch your videos all the time even though I didn't own a F150. But today I am purchasing a used 2012 F150 5.0L so these videos will be very beneficial. Thanks again.
I just bought a 2012 5.0 too. Going through the whole thing and draining all fluids, replacing entire front end, and doing all other maintenance like spark plugs and u joints, etc. How are you liking your 5.0 so far?
2014 F150 5.0 just changed out filter and fluid. Used Ford LV fluid and ford filter. This truck had a steel gasket, no rubber at all. Fluid was fairly clean and almost no debris inside.This truck gets used mostly all highway miles. Just like to say thanks for your time you put into your video's very helpful.Did transfer case as well.
I did this this past weekend in addition to replacing the transmission cooler line given your recent video on that issue as well. Thanks for the videos.
Call me not wanting to make a huge mess but ive always took a 3/16 drill bit and pop 1 hole in lowest spot on all the tans pans ive serviced and took the mig and buzzed it right up lol. I know not everybody has a mig or can weld but for me it makes for a much easier and clean job.
Thanks for posting this, huge help for my 2007 Sport Trac with the 4.6L 3V V8 and 6R60. Prior owner had the transmission replaced in 2013 with a Ford Remanufactured transmission, the dipstick plug had lettering on it to use only Mercon LV.
I plan on changing my fluid, filter and the transmission cooler lines tomorrow. Thanks for the awesome step by step videos. Any reason I can’t use a brake bleeding vacuum pump to remove most of the fluid before I drop the pan?
Very helpful - I used it to change my fluid. The first go I had a small leak so I got a new Fel-Pro gasket which solved the leak. Used welding gloves, 90 degree pliers to get to dipstick and a fan to mitigate heat.
I just did this service today on my newly purchased 2012 f150xlt. When I took the fill cap off, fluid came shooting out and running down the side. I started first thing this morning and the truck hadn't run in over 24hours. I guess the last guy thought it should be to the top of the stick while cold.
Thanks for really good instruction. The process would be so much easier and less messy if the pan had a drain plug and if there was some clip to hold the filter in place a little more securely during installation of the pan.
Great video thank you. I know this is six years old, but still applies to newer vehicles. Just did my 2017 f-150 with 52k mikes. Everything was still pretty clean. A bit of black material on the magnet. Fluid was only slightly discolored. Could have possibly gone a little longer, but it should be good for quite a while now.
@@FordTechMakuloco Thank you VM for videos, watched other video Ford 6R60 & 6R80 6 Speed Transmissions: Fluid Fill & Adjustment Procedure and become more clear.
Brother, your videos are extremely helpful. Thank you for putting the time in making them. You have saved me a lot of frustration. I work on my car in the garage so I don't have the luxury of a full shop or lift. To lessen the mess, I used a fluid extractor to pull the fluid out before dropping the pan. It made the mess very minimal. I bought a concrete mixing tub from Home Depot for $8, placed it in a large trash bag, and placed it under the pan before dropping it. After I was done, I turned the trash bag inside out to contain the oil. No mess at all. I also replaced the pan gasket. The instructions that came with it state 2013 and prior have a 99 in-lb torque while newer models are 85 in-lb (I believe). My dipstick had two cross hatch areas marked A and B. I assume the lower one is for cold/warm level and the higher one is for hot level. Can you please confirm? Regardless, the engine needs to be in idle while checking, right? All in all, it went very smoothly. THANK YOU again...
I was at the local dealer the other day for a recall repair for the engine block heater. I asked two questions: 1. How much was it to have the computer modules updated (pcm, bcm, etc). 2. Transmission service recommendation. He told me that there was no reason the firmware updates shouldn’t be needed. He also said they recommend a flush of the trans fluid when towing a few times a week with lots of city driving at 60,000 miles, as opposed to mainly highway driving and no towing at 80,000 to 100,000 miles. Please give me better advice than this. I can tackle just about any job with the right tools and knowledge. Thanks.
All the cars you tinker on look like they see a good bit of road salt. You should do a salt corrosion prevention video. I'd like to see what you'd have to say about that.
Thanks for the great video! Just did this on my 2012 F150 FX4 5.0L with 6R80 transmission and 157k miles. Amazon sent me the FT-187 filter and it actually used the FT-188 which I went to a Ford dealer to get (no choice, pan was down and rain was coming). Went without a hitch but noticed when inspecting the magnet that the threaded portion of a bent, hardened machine screw was stuck to it. The screw had several grooves worn into the threads like it had been laying against a rotating component. Other than that, nothing but fine grey particles which cleaned up easily. Transmissions worked fine before and works fine now but I'll keep an eye on it. Ford recommends adding 3.5 quarts of Mercon LV so I did that and noticed that it didn't even touch the bottom of the dipstick during the level check (NOT GOOD! - glad I did this!). You guessed it, I added exactly 3.5 additional quarts to get it to the recommended level so my best guess is whatever yahoo shop the previous owner used simply dropped the pan and changed the filter without adding the fluid back. Regardless, everything is back together now (correctly!) and working fine. Your video saved me from eventually burning up my tranny! Thanks again for the great video!
Great video,. Just attempted to do a change on a friends 2013 f150 with 130k- never had pan dropped. Snapped a bolt at the outset (4 or 5th bolt) above exhaust and quickly aborted. Most likely will just pull the fluid via fill and call it a day. No telling how many more are ready to snap. Joys of living in the north east. If you are in the rust belt suggest you spray Kano Aerokroil Penetrating Oil on the backside of the bolts the day before. I was NOT aware these are exposed to the elements on the backside.
Did this today to my 2010 FX4 with the 5.4L3V and 6R80 (might be 6R60?). Very helpful. I measured the Mercon coming out and added back that same amount. I'll get it up to temp later and double check the fluid lever.
Thank you for sharing your videos, which I have found to be extremely helpful and accurate, and which have saved me a ton of money. My only wish is that you operated your own shop near my location. Again, I thank you!
Thanks. I appreciate your quick replies especially on older videos. Many people totally forgot about their videos and don't respond. Very generous with your time and knowledge.
Any reason why he undoes the bolts on the exhaust side first and not the rear ones? Seems to me like it would make less of a mess over the exhaust if you loosen the rear ones first and let it drain out over there initially...
Great video!! I have a 2007 Expedition the owners manual say to use Mercon SP, you mentioned Ford may be moving to Mercon LV so I wanted to make sure I am using the right stuff.
Great video but if you change the filter and refill with 7.5 quarts of fresh fluid defeat the purpose as there’s still about 6 quarts in the transmission and new fluid mix with old fluid. how can you get all the fluid out?
I’m having such a hard time reaching the last bolt on the back of the pan that is tucked behind the exhaust mounting stud, any tips for loosening that one?
Great video! Just a note though, the filter link in the description for the 6R80 does not fit the 2012 F150 EcoBoost. I installed the wrong filter yesterday and the truck made a terrible buzzing noise and would not go into D smoothly or shift smoothly. Not realizing the mistake I made, I was able to get the truck to my dealer today and we discovered the problem. I'm hoping I didn't do much damage by driving it. It did pick up some fluid with the incorrect filter, but not enough to operate properly. Transmission never got hot though - unfortunately my dealer was a 30 mile drive. Just wanted to point this out to fellow TH-camr's! Other than me not paying attention to the details, the video was spot on! Keep them coming, you've saved me a lot of money by thoroughly showing how to do things yourself!
Caveat this old suggestion, you shouldn't be doing things for the first time without long though out study, and one or two FSM for the motor and trans.
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I noticed you can buy a pan with a drain plug online. Might be good for those holding onto these cars for a long time or under heavy use. My other experience is doing a complete fluid change on a toyota A750 series auto trans. you pull the trans cooler outlet and pump fluid out the pan with the trans, and add back in. thus no unnatural forces on the transmission. I would ponder if others have done that with the 6R80. (have a 2014 expedition that will need maintenance )
@@FordTechMakuloco man, that's a bummer. Good idea but they don't have the quality to finish the deal. Are you in a snow/salt state? Here in Louisiana is mostly flash rust unless you park in grassy fields or tow boats (exposure to salt waters from launching etc).
This is what kept me from ordering a new pan. The OEM holds up really well against corrosion. I supposed you could use an aftermarket pan and spray it with Fluid Film after the install.
Following up as a finally got a 'round tuit. I used a dorman pan.I did scuff it up, degrease, and hit with a nice coat of rustoleum blue paint. I live in South Louisiana, rust is not even a consideration...my 18 year old toyota frame is mint despite parking outside, etc. that darn dip stick stinks.I used an electric pump with a big filter on the discharge before it pumps into the trans. at 200k miles i guess it was changed at one point (probably the 150 K service ) as it was just mildly discolored red. TLDR thanks for posting videos to help get around Fords unusual decisions. It worked for me.
Hi, What does changing the trans pan fluid do? As I understand, there is up to 3X more dirty fluid left in the Trans, Torq converter and cooler. I am trying to understand what changing this little bit will do for the trans if you still have alot of dirty fluid left in the transmission? I am still learning. Thanks for any replies.
I dropped my pan on 2015 f150 king ranch 4x4. Your filter looks just like the one I used from Oreily . It caused big problems for me because the pickup tube was too long and the truck would not move. The one from Ford was shorter by about 3/4 inch give or take. The truck would not move had P0731 code. I didn’t know the filter was the problem for about 24 hours. A local shop manager told me over the phone that the filter was probably the issue . He saved my butt. I was just before calling a wrecker.
I did my '13 F-150 yesterday and put 7.5 quarts back in and it started running out of the fill hole. This was with engine running. What's up with that??
I have a 2014 5.0 with 150K miles. Have never had the transmission fluid / filter changed yet. Truck is still driving and shifting like it was at 20k. Curious to hear thoughts on if I should service or just leave as is. I have heard so many mixed reviews. Thanks
Great video very helpful . My 2104 F150 STX 3.7 liter 6R80 trans has the filter with the short intake spigot since the trans pan does not have the deep well like the one shown here. Filter spigot on my F150 only about 3/4 inch long - I got the wrong one with the longer spigot 1st time I changed the fluid and filter . The one in the video is the long intake spigot filter . Small point but can save a trip back to the parts store if know which filter to get.
I have a '13 Navigator with 90k, it's too late to change fluid and filter?, should I do it or leave it as it is? I want to do a drain and refill plus filter only, thank you.
Just used a mini vac to suck out fluid. Todo it properly drop the pan once and suck thru hole twice running through gears each time. This will get most fluid out. One pan drop is not enough.
I can't open the cap of the level stick !! It turn but don't come out ?? How can I pulled out ?? I hope is not cross treaded , if any ideas how to pull it out? I just bought the track f150 2015 Ecoboost 3.5 thanks for any help i can get appreciate it 😭😭
Would it still be a good idea to change the fluid if it’s past 130k miles? I bought one used. Not sure if it’s ever been changed before and not sure I need to
I have 2012 f150 platinum 3.5 eco boost . After I perform filter and fluid change . My truck will not switch gears and if I put in drive it will not move and kinda shutter ? Any possible solutions why it is not working . Truck 89000 miles . Transmission fluid was clean and transmission look good. What could be the problem
I have a 2016 with 50k miles and I changed the fluid. and filled the fluid up until it was inbetween the A and B sections of the transmission dipstick. car wont move. it was just a filter change. I measured the fluid in my drain pan and the fluid I put in and they were both about 5QTS.... Truck wont move at all. Any advise would help. I did not fill it till it over flowed...
I bought a 2013 f150 with 170k miles 5.0 the truck drives and shifts very well. no problem with it I wonder if there is a problem with changing the transmission oil without knowing if it was changed before?
If the filter does not drop, is it simply a process of pulling it down by hand? Do the "O" rings need to be replaced if it has to be pulled out of the hole? Thanks
I own a F150 and a Ram 1500. So far two AT fluid changes on the Ram. Mopar filter is similar BUT uses a small Torx T20 to secure the rear of the filter to the housing. No way it would ever drop. Each design has strong & weak spots. The Ram uses gasket maker, so make sure your cake decorating skills are up to par! ;) Much prefer the gasket design on the Ford.
Is it normal for a 12’ svt raptor trans temp gauge to not work with the hood up but it comes on when hood is down? I found this weird today when trying to check my fluid level with my B&M transmission dipstick. Digital gauge works fine either way just the dial gauge was full cold with the hood up and as soon as I closed it, it worked
I'm in need of some Guidance. I have a 2011 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost, to which I completed a Transmission Fluid Change. However, upon completion, I drove the vehicle to Operation Temperature, left it in Park/Idle, and attempted to check the Transmission Fluid Level, and it is nonexistent. I am only able to assess fluid on the Dipstick when the vehicle is off, but per the manual, that is not the way to check it, as it has to be running... so I am at a loss??
Can't find much on the 6R75. I have a shutter problem. 2008 Expedition Limited. What are the likely causes? Fluid, solenoid, other? It only or mostly shutters when maintaining speed, or just light acceleration in a higher gear. It seems to do it less when cold. Thanks
I have found the 6r80 has 2 different filter options for the same transmission. I was sold the filter with the 1.6” pickup tube and the one I needed was the 1” tube. They said their is nothing in the computer to tell them which one it requires.
Eight years later, this video is still helping people like me. Thanks for making this video. It helped me a lot!
I second that!! Thank you sir for all the help!
Do the 4.6 3v 2009 need to do the transmission change?
9yrs later still helping…. Thx ya Sir
@@Mc23720yes everyone including that model need transmission fluid changes.
A trick I came across. Take aluminum foil, push it underneath the exhaust pipe that runs behind the fluid pan, mold the foil in a manner that it creates a funnel, or channel. When the fluid starts to flow out of the back of the pan, that foil will channel the fluid into your catch pan. It keeps the trans fluid from getting all over your exhaust pipe and ground/floor.
Thanks for the education. $500 at dealership vs. $85 in my garage. Truly a Ford expert.
If anyone ever has doubts about this guy, you are wrong this guy is the BEST. Followed his video on Timing chains and valve cover gaskets and followed it, came out perfect... This guy is a savior to ford
Excellent video clear and complete! Just completed my trans fluid & filter change on my 2010 F150 5.4 no problems went just as you described. saved me lots money!
Watched this video no less than 10x and had it on while I did the job. I was listening to you say 'don't forget to put the magnet back in the pan' just as I was walking back to the truck to reinstall the pan.... without the magnet 😂 keep this video on loop while doing the job it might save you. So far these videos have helped me change the rear diff fluid, front diff fluid, transfer case fluid, slip yoke lube and now trans fluid. All 1st time doing this type of maintenance. Next job water pump and coolant flush
Two thumbs up to Hillsong “Oceans” in the background. Also love your videos, they helped me a ton with my Ford Escapes and now my Expedition
1st video that I've seen to show the actual filter placement. good job! really like the background music, says alot about who you are.
You've got some of the best videos on the web. I do a lot of work out of my garage, (mostly Ford, drive Ford and work for Ford) and I like to look to see if other people have done the repair/service that I'm working on to see if there are any issues or special tools needed, thanks for being so informative.
Bought a 2012 mustang GT with a 6r80 and needed to see the service procedure and this was epic. Thanks a million
Great instructional video. I think its important to refill with the Mercon LV made by Motorcraft like you mentioned. Why go through all the trouble of doing this yourself, if you are going to put aftermarket fluid back in to save a few dollars. I took a Ford truck into a Transmission specialist to change the fluid several years ago. They put some generic brand crap back in, and I had trouble with it shifting into overdrive 6 months later. I ended up trading it in at the dealership to avoid a costly repair. I also took another Ford vehicle into a mechanic shop to change a thermostat for the water pump. They added back red radiator fluid that they had laying around the shop. I asked specifically for the Motorcraft Gold fluid when I dropped it off. Later, I drained the radiator myself and added the correct fluid in it. If you want anything done right, do it yourself after doing your research.
Just finished my 2010 F-150 5.4 (150K km just shy of 100K miles) and thanks to your video I got through it. The rear bolts, especially the pass side, were a real bitch with barely enough room for a socket. I thought I had rounded one and would have to take it to the dealer but went back at it and found a angle where I could get to it. Thanks so much for your videos they are helping me and lots of others keep their trucks on the road when it's difficult to get anyone to work on them.
You are the man!...And I hardly ever post comments anywhere so I mean it. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.👍
So you say to fill it all the way up but then you say to fill it to the bottom hash marks so I'm confused
I just finished my pan drop and fluid refill. Followed your instructions to the letter. Matter of fact, had your video on my iphone playing and pausing as me and my buddy were under my F150 dropping it. It was EXACTLY like you say. A little messier for me but had plenty of cardboard under it. The pump your recommended worked perfectly as well. I measured my fluid and I replaced exactly 6 quarts. Weird, it was exactly minus what missed the drain pan. I had a replacement filter on hand but decided not to use it because the foam inner part looked good. I will use it for my 60K change. I feel good knowing my trans pan is free of contaminants. I hope to have this truck till 200,000 miles. THanks again !
Thanks for the video! I recently purchased a 2012 F150 with 81,000 miles, and I'm looking to do a fluid change because it's been my experience that when transmissions fail, it's because nobody bothered to change the fluid.
I have been meaning to comment for quite some time. I just want to thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have used your videos several times to support my shade tree mechanic projects. You have provided me the confidence and know how to take on projects that would concern many folks. I have been able to make several repairs with no issues due to your information. My next project will be replacing the Trans bulkhead seals. Keep it up. Thanks!!
Good video, I would add that it's a good idea to take a good look at the pump bridge. It's the plastic piece between the pump and valve body next to where the filter goes into the pump. I have run across the light colored bridges cracking and causing issues. the replacement bridge is black plastic and a lot better design and is less likely to crack. I always enjoy your videos, thank you
Thx for doing these videos for the guys that cant afford to take it to a mechanic, i like to do most of the work on my truck and your videos help alot thx man😎
I vouch for this video...just did it on my 2014 F-150...piece of cake. Thank you so much Ford Tech!
I just wanted to send out a huge thank you for posting this, the bulkhead sleeve video, and the followup videos. Of course, I installed the bulkhead sleeve incorrectly which meant I'd get that wrench icon at odd times while driving around. After watching the all the videos one last time, I remeasured the sleeve and found that mine was ~20mm sticking out and not the 16mm that you showed. So, one more drop of the pan and a little more pressure on the sleeve while pushing up on the plastic clip and it just “felt better” and more engaged. All is good now and I have piece of mind.
My truck is a 2009 F150 FX4 5.4L with 3.73 rear axle and max tow package. I just bought a 8,200lb RV trailer (as measure on the manufacturer's scale on yellow sticker) and if I account for the stuff that's in there, I figure I'm up to 9,400lbs. I tow it 8 to 10 times a year with weight distribution hitch and brake controller on weekend warrior type trips. According to the trailer guide, I'm good up to 11,200lbs. I like to pay more attention to the GCW which is 17,100lbs. I could throw out a lot more numbers and “what ifs” but, the end result is that I'm ~1500 lbs under the GCWR after accounting for passengers, dog, tools, not much fresh water, etc... I like to know if you had an opinion of towing on the upper end of what Ford says I can tow?
Charles Paquette I think you are fine personally especially with the weight distributing hitch these new trucks can sure handle allot.
Charles Paquette Sounds great thanks!
I'll second the importance of factory fluids. Drain and fill 3 times on a vehicle with valvoline fluid, started shuddering almost immediately, added aftermarket friction modifiers which helped, but the shudder eventually came back. Drain and filled 3 times with factory fluid, shudder faded away. Lesson learned. I will not mess with aftermarket fluids ever again.
Thank You ! My 2016 f-150 has the 6R80 with the FT-200 filter, 2 outlets on that one. 2 magnets as well. 6 quarts LV, filled it cold, actually looks over full. Guess I will start it for a minute, see if it goes down a bit
Thanks for the great vid. Recently did this job on my 07 expedition. No surprises thanks to the video. Greatly appreciated.
Frustrating dealing with the dealer. I scheduled an appointment for a fluid change and they scheduled me for the quick lube lane. Nope, changed it to the service shop for a mechanic to do it. CS reps don't seem to know much. I'm glad I watched this video, thank you. Won't ever do a flush now. I enjoy watching your videos. Happy 4th of July.
All of your videos are the best on TH-cam. I watch your videos all the time even though I didn't own a F150. But today I am purchasing a used 2012 F150 5.0L so these videos will be very beneficial.
Thanks again.
I just bought a 2012 5.0 too. Going through the whole thing and draining all fluids, replacing entire front end, and doing all other maintenance like spark plugs and u joints, etc.
How are you liking your 5.0 so far?
2014 F150 5.0 just changed out filter and fluid. Used Ford LV fluid and ford filter. This truck had a steel gasket, no rubber at all. Fluid was fairly clean and almost no debris inside.This truck gets used mostly all highway miles. Just like to say thanks for your time you put into your video's very helpful.Did transfer case as well.
I did this this past weekend in addition to replacing the transmission cooler line given your recent video on that issue as well. Thanks for the videos.
Call me not wanting to make a huge mess but ive always took a 3/16 drill bit and pop 1 hole in lowest spot on all the tans pans ive serviced and took the mig and buzzed it right up lol. I know not everybody has a mig or can weld but for me it makes for a much easier and clean job.
Best video on this yet! Getting ready to do my 2007 Expedition
You make good videos on these ford trucks and explain things well as well as show what you are talking about. Thanks
This along with the bulkhead o ring video I was able to complete the job with no issues. Thanks!!!
Thanks for posting this, huge help for my 2007 Sport Trac with the 4.6L 3V V8 and 6R60. Prior owner had the transmission replaced in 2013 with a Ford Remanufactured transmission, the dipstick plug had lettering on it to use only Mercon LV.
Also note that these pan bolts will round off VERY EASILY! Just make sure you have a good bite on them when you take them off or put them back in
I plan on changing my fluid, filter and the transmission cooler lines tomorrow. Thanks for the awesome step by step videos. Any reason I can’t use a brake bleeding vacuum pump to remove most of the fluid before I drop the pan?
Very helpful - I used it to change my fluid. The first go I had a small leak so I got a new Fel-Pro gasket which solved the leak. Used welding gloves, 90 degree pliers to get to dipstick and a fan to mitigate heat.
Good idea with the pliers. Thanks for the tip!
Just completed my fluid and filter change. Thanks for making this video. Made the job do much easier.
I just did this service today on my newly purchased 2012 f150xlt. When I took the fill cap off, fluid came shooting out and running down the side. I started first thing this morning and the truck hadn't run in over 24hours. I guess the last guy thought it should be to the top of the stick while cold.
Thanks for really good instruction. The process would be so much easier and less messy if the pan had a drain plug and if there was some clip to hold the filter in place a little more securely during installation of the pan.
Would it hurt them to put a drain plug in the pan?
Would be nice! They do it on all Superduty transmissions.
yea it would cost them about ten cents to do that and make our life easier LOL
FordTechMakuloco I have a 2013 f150 5.0 platinum 4x4 ...how many quarts do I put back in after changing the filter??
Switchbladeakc Not to speak for him but the video is an F-150. the engine choice doesn't affect the fluid in the trans.
@@rallyguy132321 tell that to napa lol
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Great video thank you. I know this is six years old, but still applies to newer vehicles. Just did my 2017 f-150 with 52k mikes. Everything was still pretty clean. A bit of black material on the magnet. Fluid was only slightly discolored. Could have possibly gone a little longer, but it should be good for quite a while now.
You changed transmission fluid at 52K???
@@bertveldhuizen8699 He recommends doing it at 30k in another video for the initial break in and then fluid/filter at 60k otherwise.
Thanks for video, still helps people! Only 1 question - why Mercon LV ? user-manual says Mercon SP (Mercon SP Automatic XT6QSP)
6R60= Mercon SP
6R80= Mercon LV
@@FordTechMakuloco Thank you VM for videos, watched other video Ford 6R60 & 6R80 6 Speed Transmissions: Fluid Fill & Adjustment Procedure and become more clear.
Brother, your videos are extremely helpful. Thank you for putting the time in making them. You have saved me a lot of frustration. I work on my car in the garage so I don't have the luxury of a full shop or lift. To lessen the mess, I used a fluid extractor to pull the fluid out before dropping the pan. It made the mess very minimal. I bought a concrete mixing tub from Home Depot for $8, placed it in a large trash bag, and placed it under the pan before dropping it. After I was done, I turned the trash bag inside out to contain the oil. No mess at all. I also replaced the pan gasket. The instructions that came with it state 2013 and prior have a 99 in-lb torque while newer models are 85 in-lb (I believe).
My dipstick had two cross hatch areas marked A and B. I assume the lower one is for cold/warm level and the higher one is for hot level. Can you please confirm? Regardless, the engine needs to be in idle while checking, right?
All in all, it went very smoothly. THANK YOU again...
Some awesome tips bud. I will also be doing it in the driveway, so will be using the fluid extractor and bag trick. Appreciate it
I was at the local dealer the other day for a recall repair for the engine block heater. I asked two questions: 1. How much was it to have the computer modules updated (pcm, bcm, etc). 2. Transmission service recommendation.
He told me that there was no reason the firmware updates shouldn’t be needed. He also said they recommend a flush of the trans fluid when towing a few times a week with lots of city driving at 60,000 miles, as opposed to mainly highway driving and no towing at 80,000 to 100,000 miles.
Please give me better advice than this. I can tackle just about any job with the right tools and knowledge. Thanks.
Why didn't Ford have the filter secure with a 8mm bolt, don't like have it just hangs there flopping around.
How do I find out if my transmission is 6R60 or 6R80? Awesome video and thanks for the tips at the end of the video.
All the cars you tinker on look like they see a good bit of road salt. You should do a salt corrosion prevention video. I'd like to see what you'd have to say about that.
Thanks for the great video! Just did this on my 2012 F150 FX4 5.0L with 6R80 transmission and 157k miles. Amazon sent me the FT-187 filter and it actually used the FT-188 which I went to a Ford dealer to get (no choice, pan was down and rain was coming). Went without a hitch but noticed when inspecting the magnet that the threaded portion of a bent, hardened machine screw was stuck to it. The screw had several grooves worn into the threads like it had been laying against a rotating component. Other than that, nothing but fine grey particles which cleaned up easily. Transmissions worked fine before and works fine now but I'll keep an eye on it.
Ford recommends adding 3.5 quarts of Mercon LV so I did that and noticed that it didn't even touch the bottom of the dipstick during the level check (NOT GOOD! - glad I did this!). You guessed it, I added exactly 3.5 additional quarts to get it to the recommended level so my best guess is whatever yahoo shop the previous owner used simply dropped the pan and changed the filter without adding the fluid back. Regardless, everything is back together now (correctly!) and working fine. Your video saved me from eventually burning up my tranny! Thanks again for the great video!
Great video,. Just attempted to do a change on a friends 2013 f150 with 130k- never had pan dropped. Snapped a bolt at the outset (4 or 5th bolt) above exhaust and quickly aborted. Most likely will just pull the fluid via fill and call it a day. No telling how many more are ready to snap. Joys of living in the north east. If you are in the rust belt suggest you spray Kano Aerokroil Penetrating Oil on the backside of the bolts the day before. I was NOT aware these are exposed to the elements on the backside.
Did this today to my 2010 FX4 with the 5.4L3V and 6R80 (might be 6R60?). Very helpful. I measured the Mercon coming out and added back that same amount. I'll get it up to temp later and double check the fluid lever.
Thank you for sharing your videos, which I have found to be extremely helpful and accurate, and which have saved me a ton of money. My only wish is that you operated your own shop near my location. Again, I thank you!
Thanks. I appreciate your quick replies especially on older videos. Many people totally forgot about their videos and don't respond. Very generous with your time and knowledge.
Any reason why he undoes the bolts on the exhaust side first and not the rear ones? Seems to me like it would make less of a mess over the exhaust if you loosen the rear ones first and let it drain out over there initially...
Great video!! I have a 2007 Expedition the owners manual say to use Mercon SP, you mentioned Ford may be moving to Mercon LV so I wanted to make sure I am using the right stuff.
Great video but if you change the filter and refill with 7.5 quarts of fresh fluid defeat the purpose as there’s still about 6 quarts in the transmission and new fluid mix with old fluid. how can you get all the fluid out?
I’m having such a hard time reaching the last bolt on the back of the pan that is tucked behind the exhaust mounting stud, any tips for loosening that one?
Great video! Just a note though, the filter link in the description for the 6R80 does not fit the 2012 F150 EcoBoost. I installed the wrong filter yesterday and the truck made a terrible buzzing noise and would not go into D smoothly or shift smoothly. Not realizing the mistake I made, I was able to get the truck to my dealer today and we discovered the problem. I'm hoping I didn't do much damage by driving it. It did pick up some fluid with the incorrect filter, but not enough to operate properly. Transmission never got hot though - unfortunately my dealer was a 30 mile drive. Just wanted to point this out to fellow TH-camr's! Other than me not paying attention to the details, the video was spot on! Keep them coming, you've saved me a lot of money by thoroughly showing how to do things yourself!
+tjsand33 They vary throughout the years I have updated them.
Caveat this old suggestion, you shouldn't be doing things for the first time without long though out study, and one or two FSM for the motor and trans.
You can always search based on your VIN on genuine Ford parts site. Should be accurate part for your truck.
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I see some ppl fill plug cap broke or threads came off when taking it off. I suggest you tighten it first with a very small turn, then untighten
When I had the pan off for my first service i put a drain plug on for easier/cleaner draining next time, and also installed a dipstick kit.
I miss having a trans dip stick. My 02 f150 had it but not my 2010. Figures
Your videos are on point. Cant find any other videos that is a step by step and very easy to follow. Keep up the good work
You are a godsend to cheap a$$ Ford owners such as myself.
Hi I have one question please I have explorer 2010 I put transmission oil (typeM) now I have problem or not. thanks
I noticed you can buy a pan with a drain plug online. Might be good for those holding onto these cars for a long time or under heavy use.
My other experience is doing a complete fluid change on a toyota A750 series auto trans. you pull the trans cooler outlet and pump fluid out the pan with the trans, and add back in. thus no unnatural forces on the transmission. I would ponder if others have done that with the 6R80. (have a 2014 expedition that will need maintenance )
I have seen them, they rot.
@@FordTechMakuloco man, that's a bummer. Good idea but they don't have the quality to finish the deal.
Are you in a snow/salt state? Here in Louisiana is mostly flash rust unless you park in grassy fields or tow boats (exposure to salt waters from launching etc).
This is what kept me from ordering a new pan. The OEM holds up really well against corrosion. I supposed you could use an aftermarket pan and spray it with Fluid Film after the install.
You can spray the replaced tranny pan with rust proofed oil coating and it will prevent it from rusting out.
Following up as a finally got a 'round tuit. I used a dorman pan.I did scuff it up, degrease, and hit with a nice coat of rustoleum blue paint. I live in South Louisiana, rust is not even a consideration...my 18 year old toyota frame is mint despite parking outside, etc. that darn dip stick stinks.I used an electric pump with a big filter on the discharge before it pumps into the trans.
at 200k miles i guess it was changed at one point (probably the 150 K service ) as it was just mildly discolored red.
TLDR thanks for posting videos to help get around Fords unusual decisions. It worked for me.
Your videos and how-to's are amazing - keep them coming please!
Hi, What does changing the trans pan fluid do? As I understand, there is up to 3X more dirty fluid left in the Trans, Torq converter and cooler. I am trying to understand what changing this little bit will do for the trans if you still have alot of dirty fluid left in the transmission? I am still learning. Thanks for any replies.
I dropped my pan on 2015 f150 king ranch 4x4. Your filter looks just like the one I used from Oreily . It caused big problems for me because the pickup tube was too long and the truck would not move. The one from Ford was shorter by about 3/4 inch give or take. The truck would not move had P0731 code. I didn’t know the filter was the problem for about 24 hours. A local shop manager told me over the phone that the filter was probably the issue . He saved my butt. I was just before calling a wrecker.
Yup you installed an FT-171 instead of an FT-188.
I did my '13 F-150 yesterday and put 7.5 quarts back in and it started running out of the fill hole. This was with engine running. What's up with that??
Thanks for the excellent video. Lots of little details that are absent in other videos.
I have a 2014 5.0 with 150K miles. Have never had the transmission fluid / filter changed yet. Truck is still driving and shifting like it was at 20k. Curious to hear thoughts on if I should service or just leave as is. I have heard so many mixed reviews. Thanks
How do you change the rest of the old fluid
Heard Oceans in the background brother, very good ✝️
Could you post a video on the correct way to helicoil or otherwise repair stripped pan bolt threads in the aluminum case?
Great video. My local Ford Dealership wanted $680 for this service out the door and sign a liability waiver!
Can you show a video on 2009 ford 150 platinum Lincoln transmission fluid flush? Great video. Very helpful
Thanks so much for the video. I feel more confident now to do it myself...
I see this changed out 3 1/2 quarts worth of the 7 1/2 quarts that this trans holds. How do you change out the rest of the fluid
Great video very helpful . My 2104 F150 STX 3.7 liter 6R80 trans has the filter with the short intake spigot since the trans pan does not have the deep well like the one shown here. Filter spigot on my F150 only about 3/4 inch long - I got the wrong one with the longer spigot 1st time I changed the fluid and filter . The one in the video is the long intake spigot filter . Small point but can save a trip back to the parts store if know which filter to get.
I have a '13 Navigator with 90k, it's too late to change fluid and filter?, should I do it or leave it as it is? I want to do a drain and refill plus filter only, thank you.
Just used a mini vac to suck out fluid. Todo it properly drop the pan once and suck thru hole twice running through gears each time. This will get most fluid out. One pan drop is not enough.
I can't open the cap of the level stick !! It turn but don't come out ?? How can I pulled out ?? I hope is not cross treaded , if any ideas how to pull it out? I just bought the track f150 2015 Ecoboost 3.5 thanks for any help i can get appreciate it 😭😭
Would it still be a good idea to change the fluid if it’s past 130k miles? I bought one used. Not sure if it’s ever been changed before and not sure I need to
I have 2012 f150 platinum 3.5 eco boost . After I perform filter and fluid change . My truck will not switch gears and if I put in drive it will not move and kinda shutter ? Any possible solutions why it is not working . Truck 89000 miles . Transmission fluid was clean and transmission look good. What could be the problem
I have a 2016 with 50k miles and I changed the fluid. and filled the fluid up until it was inbetween the A and B sections of the transmission dipstick. car wont move. it was just a filter change. I measured the fluid in my drain pan and the fluid I put in and they were both about 5QTS.... Truck wont move at all. Any advise would help. I did not fill it till it over flowed...
How did you get your truck move again?
I bought a 2013 f150 with 170k miles 5.0 the truck drives and shifts very well. no problem with it
I wonder if there is a problem with changing the transmission oil without knowing if it was changed before?
Question since you have to pump the fluid back in couldn't you reverse that pump and suck some of the fluid out before you drop the pan I wonder
sure, but either way it will get all over the exhaust pipe.
Great video and Thank you. Is there a way to flush the transmission cooler with new fluid while the pan is off?
If the filter does not drop, is it simply a process of pulling it down by hand? Do the "O" rings need to be replaced if it has to be pulled out of the hole? Thanks
+97widerider Yes it comes right out and the orings do not have to be replaced.
getting ready to do mine. 10yo old Mustang 6r80. Any ideas on good aftermarket aluminum pan??? My oem is about to rust through.😳
Is all Motorcraft LV/ MERCON transmission fluid the same,in my owners manual the P/N is #XT-10-QLV and i can only find P/N #XT-10-QLVC
Yes it is all the same QLVC is just the new part number.
Excuse me how many quarters we need to put it back in the transmission
I have 2014 ford f150 3.5 v6
Is the filter held in place by the pan?
What is stopping it from falling down during driving?
Yes it is
I own a F150 and a Ram 1500. So far two AT fluid changes on the Ram. Mopar filter is similar BUT uses a small Torx T20 to secure the rear of the filter to the housing. No way it would ever drop. Each design has strong & weak spots. The Ram uses gasket maker, so make sure your cake decorating skills are up to par! ;) Much prefer the gasket design on the Ford.
Is it normal for a 12’ svt raptor trans temp gauge to not work with the hood up but it comes on when hood is down? I found this weird today when trying to check my fluid level with my B&M transmission dipstick. Digital gauge works fine either way just the dial gauge was full cold with the hood up and as soon as I closed it, it worked
AutoZone gives me 2 different filter inlet hose sizes 1in and 1.5in not sure what I on have on my 2014 5.0 🤔
There is only one option, I am not sure what they are talking about
I'm in need of some Guidance.
I have a 2011 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost, to which I completed a Transmission Fluid Change. However, upon completion, I drove the vehicle to Operation Temperature, left it in Park/Idle, and attempted to check the Transmission Fluid Level, and it is nonexistent. I am only able to assess fluid on the Dipstick when the vehicle is off, but per the manual, that is not the way to check it, as it has to be running... so I am at a loss??
Should trans fluid pour out when engine is off and you pull the dipstick out ? I think my trans might be over full. please help thank you
Can't find much on the 6R75. I have a shutter problem. 2008 Expedition Limited. What are the likely causes? Fluid, solenoid, other? It only or mostly shutters when maintaining speed, or just light acceleration in a higher gear. It seems to do it less when cold. Thanks
I have found the 6r80 has 2 different filter options for the same transmission. I was sold the filter with the 1.6” pickup tube and the one I needed was the 1” tube. They said their is nothing in the computer to tell them which one it requires.
What is the best way to fabricate the 180* bend on that fill tool?