and thats why you are my favorite channel to watch and get cool info. my groups have gotten so much better because of watching you! thanks sir from New Brunswick canada!.
When I first bought my Fast Eddie XL, I did exactly what you said, solid info that I didn’t think of...just to take it one step further, I wanted to say that I did take a two foot level and leveled the lines, this makes it easier to line up the pin with the tape and make both level so you don’t torque bow and that the bow sight level is perfect, especially out to 60. Your channel is the best!!! 👍🇺🇸🏹🦌🙏
Great video again!!! I love line tuning....do all the distances i need from 10 to 70 meters, before i shoot targets, then for fun do the same for 100 meters hehe
👍👍if you have the time do this over several practices. You may be surprised from day to day your shooting ability will show you. We all have better days shooting for whatever reasons.
You are the only guy that I've heard that says to move your sight and not your arrow rest. I've been saying it for years,if my bow makes a clean bullet hole there is no way in hell I'm moving my arrow rest. Most guys are shooting at three yards and then shooting back from there. That has never made any sense to me. At three yards an eighth inch off could make all the difference in the world and its be hard to see. I agree with your method.
Your supper accurate I think as you know if you keep adjusting your poundage not siting with different arrows specifically hay bails will not miss if you have enough! Thank you for your helping me keep shooting!
Could also be due to not holding bow level. Off level results in the arrow being left or right from the start. 2nd axis leveling and using the bubble level should help arrows be more consistent from a left to tight perspective. . .
Yeah I mention in the video that this is assuming your axis are level and you are breaking good shots. Gotta mind the bubble haha! Thanks for watching!
5:15 Assuming a properly tuned rig and no wind, 1/2" left @ 20yds doubles for each time the distance is doubled, or 1" @ 40yds... not "4 or 5 inches @ 40 or 50." It's just simply geometry.
Thanks for your many videos. O, and thanks for not using the word "sick" or "dope." Sick stands for illness and dope for drugs. Don't know how those words have taken on a different meaning. Guess it's just slang. Best wishes and be safe.
Can you post the name of the video or the link Where you explain micro adjusting rest as well as sight at distances. Basically, if your bow isn’t “perfectly” tuned, even tho paper tuning is perfect.
With multi pin sights, its more than likely that the sight was not set up properly and level with the bow, causing a cant that you cannot see, but the pins will be at a slight angle. The bow need to be in a bow vise, and the riser right where the sight will be attached , leveled, then attach the sight, and level each axis. Just another huge thing that most archers fail to do when putting their sights on. You also need to understand, that in the grand scheme of things, not many people can shoot a single arrow and be dead center. Except for highly practiced spot shooters. So they need to shoot 5 arrows and see there most of them group, not just one arrow. And where I am from, we go a little more precise than tape. We hang a string with a weight at the bottom, meaning it will always be level, and we call it string tuning. As long as the arrows are landing on one side or the other of that sting, then you are good to go.
I agree, most people don't take the time or don't know how to properly level a sight to the bow. This video was assuming the bow is tuned and the sight is level.
one thing i would add is if your having difficulty hitting a spot too sight in your problem may run deeper and actually be a problem with anticipation aka target panic. shooting the line will help make the bow perfect but in reality you can still get high and low left and right. learning a dynamic shot will bring back a hole new life too you shooting and in time and work its the final goal. i know because i battled it for a long time myself. if you need too shoot lines too sight in hears a easy way simply shoot the edges of your target paper then you will never need a line and you can get it done with less fuss.
I agree, target panic is a huge issue. Like I said in the video though, this is assuming your bow is tuned, sight is leveled, and you are making good shots.
Do you think people might not be using the sight level on their long shots and using it on their short shots. Slight angle changes make impact different at distance.
What is yalls take on this, replaced my string and completely redid my set up. New d loop, new kisser button, new peep sight. Got it shooting bullets through paper but realized the arrow was very knock high on the string, maybe half an inch higher than the rest so the arrow is pointing down in the rest. I thought originally it was a timing issue but drew the bow back and checked and both stops hit the cables exactly the same time. Im not sure what the issue is, arrow spine stiffness?
It seems to me that if you have paper tuned properly and your arrows get worse as you go back to further distances in the same direction you should be moving your rest a tiny bit to correct that problem - then move the sight pins. I use the walk back line method and then shoot using only the 20-yard pin at the line at 30,:40 & 50 yards. If the shots get progressively worse to the left they I move the rest slightly to the right - and vice versa if the the shots get progressively to the right.
CAN YOU GIVE SOME CONTINUITY. TO ALL THESE LESSONS AND TIPS.....AS IT WHAT ORDER YOU ARE DOING THEM.STARTING FROM SCRATCH.LIKE WHEN TO SIGHT IN VS TUNING AND RE SETING SIGHT ANS RENTUNING ECT..
Question. When looking at my bow from above with the stabiliser removed my site housing is considerably left of centre even with an arrow installed. Could that be a tuning problem with my bow?
Thanks. I have been looking at my sights and trying to line them up w my strings etc and it never works. My sight sits left of my strings. Why is that not public information if it is normal? I'm right handed..
Not many of us that live outside of the USA have access to an indoor range that can cater for longer than 20 yards. So shooting outside at 50, 60, 90 yards, we have more issues with wind drift, where the wind knocks the arrow off course. No amount of tuning can fix natures influence.
Why is it if the bow is tilted to the Left or Right it changes the Trajectory? Shouldn't you be able to shoot the bow in a 360 degree circle and still hit dead on? I guess there is some Physics I am missing somewhere.
An arrow shoots in an arc. So, if you take a paper disc and cut it in half. Now place the flat portion of the disc on a table, standing up. The arc now would represent the arrows path. If you tilt the disc to the right, the arc, at its starting point, is now pointed right. Once the arrow begins flight it will follow the right handed path. Same is true for left. And if you lay the disc on its side it would show you how drastic the right handed flight could get.
This definitely applies for multi pin sights. Spot Hogg's do have the ability to move each pin right or left, but most sights don't. If your windage changes with distance, it's a tuning issue, level issue, or sight issue.
is it normal when i change arrows (x23 aluminum to maxima carbon), without changing the sight, the arrows go way off? both windage and elevation went way off.
No, the riser on compound bows is intentionally designed to have the arrow fire perfectly in line with the string. Imagine the arrow when viewed from the nock down the length of the shaft. A long bow would look like a perfect straight line with the arrow tip pointed off to one side: ----¤^---- Whereas a compound bow is designed with a gap and would look a little like: ----\¤/---- Hope that helps
I never bring personal politics and opinions into the channel or our page, so Parler has no benefit to me and reaches maybe 1/10 of the amount of people. This channel is about archery, not politics.
and thats why you are my favorite channel to watch and get cool info. my groups have gotten so much better because of watching you! thanks sir from New Brunswick canada!.
I don't use tape I just use a black sharpie line. It's alot thinner but it makes you more accurate in the end....well worth doing
Great job! Practical, easy to follow and easy to apply advice. Can’t ever ask for anything better. Thank you.
Great job man.. i strayed away and kinda forgot this technique. Great reminder. Really good content all around.. thank u
I like your videos most as a new archer I’m enjoying all the help and going back to it when I feel flustered
When I first bought my Fast Eddie XL, I did exactly what you said, solid info that I didn’t think of...just to take it one step further, I wanted to say that I did take a two foot level and leveled the lines, this makes it easier to line up the pin with the tape and make both level so you don’t torque bow and that the bow sight level is perfect, especially out to 60. Your channel is the best!!! 👍🇺🇸🏹🦌🙏
Great video again!!! I love line tuning....do all the distances i need from 10 to 70 meters, before i shoot targets, then for fun do the same for 100 meters hehe
👍👍if you have the time do this over several practices. You may be surprised from day to day your shooting ability will show you. We all have better days shooting for whatever reasons.
Thank you for sharing great videos keep up the good work
thanks for all the info.
Love the videos
Excellent tutorial
Awesome content man!
You are the only guy that I've heard that says to move your sight and not your arrow rest. I've been saying it for years,if my bow makes a clean bullet hole there is no way in hell I'm moving my arrow rest. Most guys are shooting at three yards and then shooting back from there. That has never made any sense to me. At three yards an eighth inch off could make all the difference in the world and its be hard to see. I agree with your method.
Good advice I will try it gust got new bow
Your supper accurate I think as you know if you keep adjusting your poundage not siting with different arrows specifically hay bails will not miss if you have enough! Thank you for your helping me keep shooting!
Love your vids keep it up
Will do! Thanks Minks 👍
Could you please explain more how to use the right sight tape, I’m new using the one pin sight. Cheers
This video was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks
Could also be due to not holding bow level. Off level results in the arrow being left or right from the start. 2nd axis leveling and using the bubble level should help arrows be more consistent from a left to tight perspective. . .
Yeah I mention in the video that this is assuming your axis are level and you are breaking good shots. Gotta mind the bubble haha! Thanks for watching!
I do this with string at 20yds it works really well in my opinion
5:15 Assuming a properly tuned rig and no wind, 1/2" left @ 20yds doubles for each time the distance is doubled, or 1" @ 40yds... not "4 or 5 inches @ 40 or 50." It's just simply geometry.
Awesome video!
Thank you sir!
Thanks for your many videos. O, and thanks for not using the word "sick" or "dope." Sick stands for illness and dope for drugs. Don't know how those words have taken on a different meaning. Guess it's just slang. Best wishes and be safe.
Can you post the name of the video or the link Where you explain micro adjusting rest as well as sight at distances. Basically, if your bow isn’t “perfectly” tuned, even tho paper tuning is perfect.
With multi pin sights, its more than likely that the sight was not set up properly and level with the bow, causing a cant that you cannot see, but the pins will be at a slight angle. The bow need to be in a bow vise, and the riser right where the sight will be attached , leveled, then attach the sight, and level each axis. Just another huge thing that most archers fail to do when putting their sights on.
You also need to understand, that in the grand scheme of things, not many people can shoot a single arrow and be dead center. Except for highly practiced spot shooters. So they need to shoot 5 arrows and see there most of them group, not just one arrow. And where I am from, we go a little more precise than tape. We hang a string with a weight at the bottom, meaning it will always be level, and we call it string tuning. As long as the arrows are landing on one side or the other of that sting, then you are good to go.
I agree, most people don't take the time or don't know how to properly level a sight to the bow. This video was assuming the bow is tuned and the sight is level.
Same as walk-Back tuning, but ensure you use your 20-yard pin for all yardage.
Smart
one thing i would add is if your having difficulty hitting a spot too sight in your problem may run deeper and actually be a problem with anticipation aka target panic. shooting the line will help make the bow perfect but in reality you can still get high and low left and right. learning a dynamic shot will bring back a hole new life too you shooting and in time and work its the final goal. i know because i battled it for a long time myself. if you need too shoot lines too sight in hears a easy way simply shoot the edges of your target paper then you will never need a line and you can get it done with less fuss.
I agree, target panic is a huge issue. Like I said in the video though, this is assuming your bow is tuned, sight is leveled, and you are making good shots.
Do you think people might not be using the sight level on their long shots and using it on their short shots. Slight angle changes make impact different at distance.
you can use duct tape just aim at the spot where the tape ends on the left or right instead of the tape itself
Where can i purchase the black target with the white spot as seen in the video?
Just ticked your insta for ya, Let the good times roll!
Appreciate that Rak Kup 👍 Welcome to the team!
Inside Out Precision thanks man!
What is yalls take on this, replaced my string and completely redid my set up. New d loop, new kisser button, new peep sight. Got it shooting bullets through paper but realized the arrow was very knock high on the string, maybe half an inch higher than the rest so the arrow is pointing down in the rest. I thought originally it was a timing issue but drew the bow back and checked and both stops hit the cables exactly the same time. Im not sure what the issue is, arrow spine stiffness?
It seems to me that if you have paper tuned properly and your arrows get worse as you go back to further distances in the same direction you should be moving your rest a tiny bit to correct that problem - then move the sight pins. I use the walk back line method and then shoot using only the 20-yard pin at the line at 30,:40 & 50 yards. If the shots get progressively worse to the left they I move the rest slightly to the right - and vice versa if the the shots get progressively to the right.
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I have a 2017 hoyt Carbon defiant should I level my bow off the string or riser. Also how do I get my center shot ?
Just line your rest up wit thay little trough in the shelf for your center shot. We level off the riser
Thanks for the info. Good informative videos.👍🏼
Can your third axis adjustment cause it to hit left or right at distance
Yes, but generally only if you're on an incline/decline
I live in vancouver wa and i was wondering where in oregon is your shop
We are in Springfield
Could vertical arrow drift increasing with distance be incorrect 3rd axis? 🤔
No the 3rd axis only comes into play when aiming up/downhill. And it will only effect horizontal point of impact
CAN YOU GIVE SOME CONTINUITY. TO ALL THESE LESSONS AND TIPS.....AS IT WHAT ORDER YOU ARE DOING THEM.STARTING FROM SCRATCH.LIKE WHEN TO SIGHT IN VS TUNING AND RE SETING SIGHT ANS RENTUNING ECT..
Well you want to paper tune first, then. Sight in.
Question. When looking at my bow from above with the stabiliser removed my site housing is considerably left of centre even with an arrow installed.
Could that be a tuning problem with my bow?
Nope! Your pins will almost always sit outside if your string
Thanks. I have been looking at my sights and trying to line them up w my strings etc and it never works. My sight sits left of my strings. Why is that not public information if it is normal? I'm right handed..
Not many of us that live outside of the USA have access to an indoor range that can cater for longer than 20 yards.
So shooting outside at 50, 60, 90 yards, we have more issues with wind drift, where the wind knocks the arrow off course. No amount of tuning can fix natures influence.
Agreed! Wind is an archers worst nemesis haha. Thanks for watching
Why is it if the bow is tilted to the Left or Right it changes the Trajectory? Shouldn't you be able to shoot the bow in a 360 degree circle and still hit dead on? I guess there is some Physics I am missing somewhere.
An arrow shoots in an arc. So, if you take a paper disc and cut it in half. Now place the flat portion of the disc on a table, standing up. The arc now would represent the arrows path. If you tilt the disc to the right, the arc, at its starting point, is now pointed right. Once the arrow begins flight it will follow the right handed path. Same is true for left. And if you lay the disc on its side it would show you how drastic the right handed flight could get.
@@lloydwellington5271 Thank you yea makes sense.
i am loosing poundage over time. it is about the limbs or about the string and cables?
You're just getting string stretch. If it keeps happening though you're due for new strings
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you!
But this wouldn’t really matter for a multi pin beauxse on spothog you can do each individual pin
This definitely applies for multi pin sights. Spot Hogg's do have the ability to move each pin right or left, but most sights don't. If your windage changes with distance, it's a tuning issue, level issue, or sight issue.
If you have to move individual pins left or right you have a tuning issue
is it normal when i change arrows (x23 aluminum to maxima carbon), without changing the sight, the arrows go way off? both windage and elevation went way off.
@Gabe Jukish huh, i would probably have to go throu paper first. thanks!
Often a bubble issue in my experience
Can be, but if your axis' are set correctly and you use your bubble it won't be.
Is archer's paradox still a concern?
No, the riser on compound bows is intentionally designed to have the arrow fire perfectly in line with the string.
Imagine the arrow when viewed from the nock down the length of the shaft.
A long bow would look like a perfect straight line with the arrow tip pointed off to one side:
----¤^----
Whereas a compound bow is designed with a gap and would look a little like:
----\¤/----
Hope that helps
Ran out of electrical tape? :P
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I never bring personal politics and opinions into the channel or our page, so Parler has no benefit to me and reaches maybe 1/10 of the amount of people. This channel is about archery, not politics.
Awesome video!
Thanks Amanuel!