Gyeon CanCoat For The BMW E92 M3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2020
- I've decided to do something different for the M3. I'm going to use Gyeon CanCoat to test it out because I'm just not quite ready to coat the car. Application is fairly straightforward which is nice, but it's hard to see where you're applying it. As always, preparation is key to help with longevity.
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I just applied Cancoat a few weeks back. Application was super easy. Used the towel for the first coat, let cure for one hour. I then used a microfiber applicator for the second coat and I liked that better. It felt like I was getting better coverage using a back and forth application like applying a traditional coating. I really like the product but your right, it didn’t wow me for a much different look. I let the 2 coats be until the first wash. After the first wash I’m using Bead Maker as a topper. The water beading action is unbelievable, that first wash was crazy. Now with the Bead maker topper it’s not much different. I’m enjoying the combo. It’s on my daily driver and I like to try different things or touch up with a light polish maybe every 6 months, so this fit the bill. Please follow up with your thoughts during a wash and talk.
Menzerna Powerlock for me followed by GTechniq C2. Boom 💥 Slick to the touch and the beauty is you can layer C2. 👍🏼
I wouldn’t have been spraying Eraser around the panels with Can Coat on them already. I’m sure it floated in the air onto those coated panels.
The can coat does look better after it has properly cured. Without a shadow of a doubt.
But add about 25% onto Gyeon's claimed full cure time. At least in the UK anyway.
If you want to top it aswell, I'd highly recommend a coat of Tac Systems Shinee Wax!
Man it REALLY shines!
The only other thing I've seen give so much depth and clarity was Swissvax Concorso personally.
I have had great results with gyeon mohs and gyeon pure, I would say those products have a very similar finish and feel to CSL paired with Exo ( have used all 3 coatings I am mentioning here). I dont think I would spend the time to apply something like cancoat when it lacks many of the properties I would be looking for if I took the time to polish and prep for a coating.
Do a second coat is very smart. Give 48hrs to cure. I also used Gyeon cute or reload and applied 4 hrs after the second coat.
Definitely 12+ months when properly maintained. I have a couple customers that I used it on and that I maintain and it has help up great
Use a microfiber applicator
I've been using it on client's cars for a month now. It is amazing so far with two layers!
How long did you wait to apply the second coat? If you do it in a couple weeks do you have to decon the paint before applying second coat?
@@wutangcorpdotcom I waited at least 8 hours. Probably best to consider your humidity levels but at least 8 hours.
You will be surprised at how well it holds up. I saw 15 months out of it. To add a second coat it’s a 1 hour wait time per Jeff from Gyeon when I asked him.
Give it time to cure and set up. Just give it a shot and don’t worry about slickness and all that other stuff. In the end it’s a temporary solution.
I never got the fascination with slickness, why would you be touching your paint all the time anyway.
@@narutobroken I think it's more to do with less resistance when using your mitt/towel, so hopefully there would be less chance of scratching
I buffed and polished my whole car 2 weeks ago concentrating mostly on the hood and roof because they had really bad water spots and it came out amazing! cleaned the car really good and applied a ceramic coat. just noticed yesterday that the water spots came back and i'm so frustrated! I'm going to try your technique of using a heat gun and polishing to hopefully get rid of them for good.
Yep...waterspots can be fickle.
Check out Fictech One from France. Adds the slickness you prefer and same spray on application.
Good product for a quick protection ! 👍 👍
It looks better after the cure, car craft has a video comparing it to CQ Lite and it makes the paint darker.
What happens when you test a product properly & don't jump to conclusions with no real experience of the product.
Definatly does, ive used it before and it looks much better after the curing time
Like this product, really easy on off last a long time.
Thanks for reviewing this product for us. I also have an Interlagos blue car....
I for one, am not Impressed with “water properties” so I will give this a pass. I want to see a difference in the paint after it’s applied. Not wait for a wash and get excited for water beads!!!!
I want to say that this does nothing, and we paying a price for it, and glorifying it... but I won’t...
Love the M3 and the color. 🤞that the water spots don’t show back up.
Interlagos Blue M's are sooo good, reminds me of the E36 Avus blue M3s
AWEH Collective his is lemans blue..
I tried to remove CQuartz UK with Meguiars Wash Plus because I could not find my compound - Wash Plus removed it with ease!
You will love this.
I applied can coat to about 1/2 a dozen cars and I still have enough in the bottle to do one more. One car has been going for 6 months and show no signs of coating failure yet. Super easy to apply with one microfiber towel. Just wipe on, flip and wipe off. I did get a few high spots - they are hard to see initially. I think it would be better to do it as you are, with one applicator towel and a removal towel. I just hate wasting towels as they need to be thrown away after can coat usage.
While watching the video, I could see I difference in gloss after you applied it
Whats the difference with that and the 1000 other si02 coatings/toppers ? For a few months you could of done Hydro2 or Hydro Blue no?
What's that large area of raised orange peel being highlighted just below the mirror on the drivers side? Just a weird reflection of the mirror?
4:35
You're a good detailer. That Beemer is similar to a mirror.
Man I love this stuff. The perfect blend of ease of application and durability. Been using it for the last 3 years with WetCoat as a maintenance coat every month. The results are really really impressive.
FYI: Applying with a suede applicator instead does indeed affect durability and clarity positively. Also I found that applying it one panel at a time generally worked for me, with the only panel I split in two being the hood.
I don't see the need for this product. It took me almost as long as it would have to properly coat the car. We'll see how I like it after washing a few times.
@@ObsessedGarage From a time perspective if you are being very cautious in terms of how big of an area you apply it to then I can see why you'd say a "proper coat" would go on almost as quick, however I still feel that the product is far less daunting and forgiving for your average weekend warrior than someone who has the benefit of tons of experience with full fat coatings. That's my take as one of those weekend warriors, but perhaps I haven't spent enough time with some of the more forgiving coatings.
P.S. I found the effect of the coating most noticeable, visually, after 2 coats (4 hours between them) and an overnight cure.
@@Bestwick1983 Agreed. I also can't garage my car so I need something easy on, easy off, that doesn't have to be kept pristine for the next 12/24h. Although a big fan of Gyeon kit, Chemocal Guys Hydroslick looks quite good too for the 'weekend warrier'.
It though you’re supposed to maintain this product with Gyeon cure? What’s the difference between maintinf it with cure vs wetcoat??
What did you maintain this coating with monthly? I'm just trying to maintain my cars at home and coat them. Big fan of the 6 month- 1 year coats I can do easily at home. Super cheap and still get almost the same results. I coated my wife's car with Torque ceramic spray and have been using p+s bead maker. Legit sheds water like I've never seen before. Got a can of this stuff to try in future possibly.
That’s how Gyeon products work Matt - Same with Gyeon Cure Spray Sealant . You can’t visually see how much product you’re putting on - it isn’t visible - but LESS is more with Gyeon. 1-2 sprays into a microfibre towel will cover an entire large panel. No need to be splitting up door panels into 3’s.
I question to what effect will this have on protection? If we are add trace amounts of slightly bonded SiO2, what is that going to do to aid in chemical resistance?
Obsessed Garage why do you need to physically see the product going on to know it’s protecting? If a product like Gyeon Cure is so concentrated, you don’t need to apply tonnes to take effect, little goes a long way and provides great protection on top of your existing coating. But if you’re the dude who needs to see it going on, then yeah go ham with bead maker and spray the crap out of it on your panels directly and buff it in all if that gives u peace of mind!
Not sure if you mentioned this or not in the video. Did you end up using their primer coat prior apply this? Thx
but does it do anything except helping with waterspots?
CanCoat has crazy hydrophobic properties as well.
6 months at the most I suppose like the last coat v2. But keep us informed on how long this will hold/last? haha almost removed the can coat with eraser there :P. I doubt you're going to like this product though. I used the Last coat v2, but I'm going to use a ceramic coating, I'm no fan of these SiO2 spray sealants, but it's better than nothing on the clear for sure. Also, keep in mind, these SiO2 products need to cure as well. But knowing you, you're not going to like this.
I'm leaning towards buying Gyeon Can Coat because: 1. ease of application. 2. Relative low cost. 3. It seems to protect the paint very well. After watching some videos and reading comments it seems that over spray is an issue for some people. Bottom line: Keep that cloth close to the sprayer and point it away from the car.
I find it's not easier than a regular coating.
@@ObsessedGarage a regular coating of what?
@@ObsessedGarage By the way I clay barred and polished the car. It's pretty easy to apply and the car comes clean with just a power sprayer. Not sure how long it will last...
Matt please try out Mckees Hydro Blue you will not be disappointed.
I tried to explain to a few people that coatings and sealants all need to have a good tactile experience for me to like it...it's just a personal preference. I want to feel the slickness and be able to see at least a small change in gloss. The protection may be there but if it feels like nothing is there then it's something I won't like.
I feel like this stuff is 100% about water behavior. There was zero change in the look of the paint and it certainly was only leaving a trace amount of SiO2 that will simply change the contact angle. That doesn't always lead to protection.
I never thought of it like that. I've been testing consumer/retail level "ceramics" on my cars and run into this issue often. CSL + EXO feels soft, supple and very slick (well after EXO has sat to cure for a day lol) and even the addition of C2V3 still adds to the gloss and slickness. The retail level stuff leaves a LOT to be desired for a tactile experience but the water behavior seems to be ok.
As great as coatings appear to be (I've personally never used one) I just can't get myself away from traditional waxes like the power lock/collinite combo. Looks great, feels great, and I enjoy doing it.
I've used CanCoat several times, first time with towel, use 3 sprays, no more than 2 afterwards. Also, change out to new area of towel after a panel or 2. Think you used way too much product. Is the lift clean? ugh...I cringed every time you threw the towel down on it and re-used it. I apply 2nd coat after 4 hours.
It's Matt. There is zero shot that lift is dirty
Do you mean change the applicator towel or the clean towel to pick up any residual product left behind? I’m applying this next week and don’t want to mess us my truck’s paint.
You telling him what to do is like a clown trying to be serious, I think he knows what he’s doing
My car never stayed as clean as when I had Can Coat on it.
Is can coat the same as many other coatings in the fact it's best to keep clean and dry over night if possible?
Yes, you want to let it cure like a normal coating. Keep it dry for a day.
Have you tried The Last Coat v2? It's cheaper and actually gives you depth and clarity while leaving the paint super slick, it applies the same too. You could get a year easy if maintained properly, especially if your car is garaged.
Ha, ha... No, just no. I don't do marketing bull crap.
@@ObsessedGarage what do you mean You don't do marketing bull crap? I've bought plenty of products from watching them on your channel.
clamslammer *tired ol’ man voice* That F11’s no joke.
May I ask why the move from Powerlock and Collinite? Just in an attempt to see "whats out there"?
Yep, just trying new stuff.
just put a layer of beadmaker on top of it and you will have the slickness and the depth with the benefit of cancoat !
I plan to try it out.
most coatings dont give instant slickness.btw im happy you are not that obsessed anymore since you use carpro eraser before gyeon can coat instead of Gyeon Cure,hehe
Cure? You probably mean Gyeon Prep.
Matt- I would use this as a first step of a three-step process. After polishing and correcting the paint- I would then use this as a paint sealant. Then lay down a nice wax for gloss and then lay down bead maker as your sacrificial layer.
Then what's the point of using CanCoat if you're going to cover it with a bunch of inferior products? Once you put that wax on it you won't get any of the benefits of CanCoat anymore. Then Bead Maker will seal the deal and make the car a dust magnet that is shiny and slick.
Bead Maker does not attract dust.
@@ObsessedGarage Maybe in Florida it doesn't. Over here I tried enough time to use almost two 16oz bottles, applied it to one car and not to the other, the car with Bead Maker had terrible dust/pollen on it, much worse than cars without it. I sold the remainder of my gallon and will never use that product again.
If you watch Matt’s video he said that CanCoat did not do anything to the paint but provide SiO2 protection. A high quality wax will not do anything but give gloss,- I’m not talking about about an cheap $20 Wax. But something warm that will just give high gloss. You’re looking at in the wrong direction. Can coat is just to protect the paint. Wax does not protect the paint- This is something that has caused lots of confusion with people thinking Wax is somehow protecting there paint. Maybe there hybrids type Wax’s. But an true high quality carnauba wax will just give a nice deep level gloss. A just side note- There are differences in Shine vs Gloss levels.
@@ObsessedGarage I've found it to be to product that attracts it the most.
I have similar rims to you but in gloss black. All those little V's are a NIGHTMARE to clean!
I've been very disappointed with ceramic toppers in general, whether it be Reload, Cancoat, Overcoat from Kamikaze, etc... Its interesting, but Carpro Elixir has probably been the easiest to use by far (my opinion only)
Try gyeon skin!? Or simpler gyeon cure
Technicians Choice ceramic detail spray. Wont need anything else ever
If you didn't use Bead Maker as a 'topper/drying aid' and you didn't use coatings, what 'topper/drying aid' would you use? Thanks.
He used to use Optimum Car Wax or Ammo Hydrate on waxed cars.
Why not just use Bead Maker?
@@nleepercussion I know that. Just wondered.
@@ObsessedGarage I've used it once and don't like the fact you have to use so much product. I've been using Optimum Car Wax, Megs Ultimate Quick Wax and think they give better value and performance. Paste wax and sealants are redundant now that spray wax/sealants are so good. Might give Bead Maker another try.
What pressol bottle (eraser) is Matt using in this vid.... I dont remember ever seeing that color combo in the store... hmmm
It's Translucent Household Sprayer v 1.3. We are sold out as I only ordered a few hundred to test. More are coming.
@@ObsessedGarage Awesome ! I dont remember seeing the white translucent with the gray. I like it !!
Responding to your comment at 2:45 - you won’t be able to get this off without a lot of effort. But it’s great so you shouldn’t have to.
What would you use for multi year protection?
CSL and EXO. Available in the Obsessed Garage store.
Do you or anybody use C2v3 as a maintenance product on CSL +exo?
I have, but I like Bead Maker better.
Hi Matt! How do you find the Gyeon Can Coat?
internet 🤗 hug for the poor soul unable to google. legend has it he's still looking...
If you’re looking for a slick sio2 sealant give Owners pride ceramic detailer a try.
Owners Pride is the worst name of a product I've ever heard. It sends my spidey senses into max douche alarm.
Obsessed Garage 😂😂 the name aside, it’s worth a look. They claim 8-12 months
@@elevatedshine they claim 😂
So it's basically Geon's version of GTechniq C2v3 or CarPro Reload?
No, it’s much more durable.
Similar in application but it lasts 5x as long
No gyeon's version of reload or c2v3 is gyeon cure.
Can coat is a standalone lsp product, that is a light ceramic as such, but i believe you can use it as a topper to the gyeons full blown ceramic coatings.
2:14
The product doesn't include a respirator mask?
Oh heavens, he'll probably die this weekend.
I'll stick to angelpolish master sealant
14:53 remnant of a waterspot?
I love Gyeon products but I can’t buy into the aerosol can method
Good thing it's not aerosol!
Prefer Megs Ultimate Fast Finish on a car without a ceramic coating
Why would you want the paint to look different? 🤔 that's exactly what I want.
Have you/would ever try Gyeon Syncro ?
Probably the slickest and most hydrophobic coating I've seen but some people see it not last a year. I had it on my car for 18 months, no problems. I did get a few water spots on hood/roof but I think any coating is prone to water spotting if you don't wash/dry the vehicle quick enough after a rain on a dirty car.
@@bosoares let's be clear though, "water spots" from rain are not the kind of "water spots" we normally talk about-those from tap water minerals. Maybe calling them rain spots would better differentiate.
Can't decide between getting Can Coat or Moonlight. Which do you prefer or is better? Easier to apply/lasts longer?
Thanks
These things take just as much time to do as a full coating, so I'd say just do the real deal.
@@ObsessedGarage Thanks
😍
How does this compare to CarPro Lite?
Car craft auto detailing has just reviewed them, it’s a good watch.
LSD yes I agree. Fantastic comparison
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Interesting comparison. Seems that curing time is 48 hours in his experience - I think that's what he said; can't help thinking that maybe the microfibre you're using Matt absorbs the product and pull it off the paint? Maybe the suede applicator slides the product onto the paint and more of it stays there? Perhaps the rapidity of the on and off experienced with just the microfibre(s) indicates that most of the product has come off? Also surely the low price of the CanCoat is a factor versus more difficult to apply alternatives - there must be a trade-off somehwere. As Matt says, perhaps good for a short term defence against the elements...
I don't think it would make much sense to apply this with an applicator. You might as well just coat the car with a resin based coating.
Obsessed Garage if you could get closer to a year with good maintenance, I think this would appeal to a lot of people who might not want a 2 year plus coating so the time invested would be worth it. Personally I’ve gone for CarPro Lite since April and am happy so far.
I think the M3 deserves CSU+EXO
Génial🙏🎩🇵🇹🇺🇸
Second coat is 4 hours later.
I did it the next day.
Obsessed Garage oh that’s fine too - you should get up to a years protection with CanCoat. You may not see it go on very well but it is there!
Koch chemie fse loves to destroy waterspots, get some flower
Too bad it isn’t available in the US
@@Jnaszty559 ooo fucking hell
You don't 'gain' anything from appyling a coating to a well polished car. Typically you lose gloss so in that respect if you are not noticing any difference from applying the cancoat, that's a good thing.
Can I suggest you try being a little more enthusiastic as well, never seen someone moan so much during a detailing video.
No to all of that.
Well gloss meters seem to say differently & also consistent in those results. I'll take a scientific approach over guessing via the biased human eye every day of the week. Also I would advise applying via a proper ceramic applicator & suede cloth. You'll be shocked with the difference that makes to the end results with regards to durability & hydrophobicity.
You can't help personality so I'll let you off with that 😅
Gloss meters are terribly inaccurate. I see people using a $200 gloss meter and taking that as the way. I wanted one badly until spending time with a Rhopoint. I found it almost useless and extremely inaccurate.
@@ObsessedGarage seems pretty consistent when others are using decent ones from what I've seen. Consistent results from average readings. Each to their own mate, don't write off Cancoat too early though. It's a proper lite ceramic & will become slick on curing. I would recommend ditching the towel though & using a suede applicator on a foam block as once the product sets it will be hard & make the MF unusable for paintwork.
Do you ever just get the feeling your just spending money on constant useless layers of protection for your car?
No
So sad seeing these "drivers cars" not getting driven to their full potential.
How would you know how I'm driving the car?
@@ObsessedGarage cmon Matt
First 👌
Nothing lasts 6 months on a daily driven car belonging to a common man except a real ceramic coating that actually forms a glass layer on top of the paint/clear coat.
ur wrong, can coat does it, look at Scott HD channel, he did the test for 11 months in extreme conditions.
@@afonsok3503 why don't you try it yourself?
I've tried it.
@@nasdoc1 Can Coat is a real ceramic coating, lite