Mo Pai is Bullshit - The Lies of Western Mo Pai
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- Western Mo Pai Students (abbreviated WMPS and pronounced "Wimps") are just like any other religious fundamentalist cult, tricking seekers with lies about Mo Pai.
This video explains the trick which John Chang used to light the paper on fire: • Chi energy revealed!
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mo paid ain't bullshit but the hype about it is and all the greedy scammers wanting to make money from dupes
Yes, and all those are what are called Western Mo Pai Students (WIMPS) The system has now died with the passing of the master, none of the students 'got it'.
Hi, could you please make a video on a safer method to condense the qi, or as you called grunting? If not, please do point me to any source to learn the safer method. Would appreciate your advice. Thank you.
you found one yet
There is no safer method. If you wont practice the real thing then dont practice at all.
Been saying this for years. The stuff is basic internal training in internal Silat and internal Kuntao. You are right sir.
Thank you. I have seen intense discussion on this subject for many years, and the truth is rather easy to discern.
@Paris Beck Typical. People who like More Pai are all idiots, so reasonable people will look like idiots to that kind of freak ... and, naturally factual reasoning ALWAYS seem like BS to them. Mo Pai Lies are delicious to them.
What would you suggest is the best path to take to gain abilities?
@@J0PHIEL Never starting
@@daltondammthebabe Why
I've been interested in working on my chi and learning more for awhile now but unfortunately I'm only 16 and can't travel much. Do you have any advice for me?
Great! I will take a look thank you
The most important question is what do want to achieve and why. Whatever advice you get is worthless if they don’t ask you what you want to get out of the work. It’s like saying you want to travel, “where should I go?”.... see you need to know why. Do you want comfort? Adventure? Warm or Cold? Lots of people and big cities or Natural Beauty. Why? The question is exactly why do you want to practice what are you trying to become and what’s more motivation? If you don’t know figure that out first then you’ll know who to pick. You probably don’t need to travel to get what you’re looking for but if you’re going to travel my goodness have a good reason. A lot of the places in the world where this stuff is taught are really harsh unsanitary polluted and being a westerner you will get shaken down and fleeced in a lot of places. When I go to India it’s to Bihar, Bihar is one of two or three places in the world where polio still exists. There’s no trash cans or public restrooms, I get food poisoning and other illnesses every-time. I have my reasons for going namely the Bodhi tree is walking distance.
Yeah so have your reasons to follow whatever system, these things can generate life changing experiences that can “marry you” to a particular style so know what you want and pick a style and teacher that matches you.
For instance the guy suggested to you is modern shaolin which is a striped bare Buddhist system which is purely martial. The guy on this video seems much more aligned with Taoism and spiritual and psychic cultivation. These are almost polar opposites.
Lama Rigdze is the most accessible teacher of Buddhist Methods I know and he will be straight with you about what you should do that fits your conditions and aspirations provide your looking for freedom and knowledge on how your energetic mechanics function but he doesn’t do a lot of chi cultivation before his system doesn’t required it. He’s more interested in teaching emotional strength. Because it’s no good to be energeticly powerful if you’re worried what other people think or you don’t know how to feel good about yourself. So he teaches how to articulate the emotional body like it was another limb, you should be able to pick your emotions like you pick your clothes.
@@dorjedriftwood2731what teacher would you suggest for healing and inner knowledge?
I was at the beginning of the discovery of the "spiritual life", and as I was learning about several things, I became more enchanted with everything (and things became more and more clear... until I became "blind" and didn't see the various traps on the way , because in my naivety anyone who "works with spirituality at any level had to have some kind of commitment to the sincerity and seriousness of what was claimed). And in this beginning of the journey in the discovery of spirits, energies and astral projections, I came across the video of Dynamo Jack. Obviously already "blind by clarity", I fell for this scam and searched madly until I found the two books by the student Kosta Danaos, I unpacked the two books and soon started the practices I practiced the techniques up to level two, through meditation and I even invented extra trying to be smart using the techniques in astral projection (since when you are sleeping, technically you are in an altered state of consciousness, making it even easier to manipulate energies, etc.). After a year and not feeling any visible positive results I stopped. But what I didn't know was that I had planted a time bomb. Years later, to my surprise, since I had forgotten that I had practiced one day, I was warned in astral projection by spiritual mentor - spirits - that I would have serious problems with my lung and heart (cancer) because the energies accumulated in my dantien would rise to my heart chakra. Nowadays I am in poor health (and I can't even stand up without the help of canadian-crutches), and I'm very sad to have fallen for this scam and not be able to tell anyone about it (even those of spirituality in general wouldn't take this kind of chi cultivation thing seriously), and here in this video I found other victims.And I'm sad to say this but... I don't have the cure to solve this chi problem, let alone techniques that can be done for someone who can just sit or lie down (like me), but you victims who read this relate in the future, know that at least you don't are alone in this (there are many others out there who must have fallen too, and are probably suffering the silent consequences). I very much doubt that someone who had this false (and extremely dangerous) technique of neikung as their first contact with chi, will have the courage to take a chance on several others (being a layman, and afraid of stepping into more traps). Good Luck, you are not alone.
The real mo pai
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Try yoga my friend. It will balance and spread out the energies evenly, because Yoga opens the nadis (channels) of your body
Thank you for sharing your story, it helpsto warn others. The best thing I can suggest for you is to do a lot of the easy but powerful medical chi kung called Fragrant Qigong, or Xian Gong, you can find free videos of it online.
The thing is that there are many things about the practices that cant be shared in a book or via written word.
Its not about energy accumulated in your dan tien, since the dan tien transmits energy through the whole body, its about false practice with too much intention. By using intention the energy becomes "stuck" in the chest since its clenches up, any real practice relies on non intentional breathing work. Anchor the breath and let your mind sink into your body and later into your dan tien. Only having awarness on the dan tien, letting your body breath on its own will suck qi into the dan tien which will by default fill up and spread the energy through your system, cleansing it and unblocking meredians.
The problem is that nearly all people think that they can just start the real practice without preparing their body and mind for it.
Releasing mental, physical and energetic blockages.
What do you think happens if you have a phone with bad wiring, broken cables and put it on power? Overheating and a short circuit^^
Also your story sounds like you havent been grounded^^ it is never good to have your mind in the skies
good luck on your journey
This is why you must always practice the Microcosmic Orbit prior to Bone Marrow qigong practices. A lot of western methods are all for show and corrupted. It's all about opening up the meridians and the 3 dan tiens.
Totally agree and thank you Sir for your vid, its truly rare to find a master who is genuine and truthful.
I started mediation (Zen) because I liked the calmness it brings me, I do also have knowledge of Taoist meditation but always preferred the softer natural way of breathing... Fast forward 10 years, I was able to still do everything that a hard, hard/soft Chi-Gong style practitioner can do but they didn't even seem to be as half as sensitive to energy or the energy of the environment as me (including weather, people and animals), but to be fair I think I was bless by my mothers genes as she is a sensitive person.
I also noticed mental and emotional changes to myself (more patient, compassion and understanding of others and myself). This did seem to correlate to my internal/condensed chi and my channels fully cleared/unblocked.
I've been researching chi cultivation for awhile now but most of what ive read says you must abstaian from sex for at least 3 days before practicing is this true?
Not true , this is not the way to understand your body. If you restrain your body , the tension and desire will always be there , it's just a matter of time where you could not resist. The true way to understand the body is to first accept who you are as a human being , understand how the body function , and not just from social view. Start by understand , and observe how your body function , how your mind works. The true practice , begin from taking good care of your lifestyle , without a good lifestyle , all practice are pointless and eventually become a waste of time. When you start in this view , your desires for body function will reduces to a basic degree , this is why people who start self exploration will have less desire for sex , because sex is just for reproductive purpose , and some degree of pleasure. Even the body restrain from sex , the desire and thought will be in the mind , and worse is that the thought will even be exaggerated because you are more focus on sex by restraining your body from it. That's not the way to go.
The reason for abstaining from sex for three days after practicing is because the cultivator will end up giving away his extra chi to his partner, which reduces the overall effectiveness of cultivating chi.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts hi master..can you tell me when we can have relation with our partner after meditation cuz I'm maried and sorry for bad english namaste !
@@imadeddinecherat9119 It doesn't make a lot of difference with most meditations. It is the chi kung for cultivating power that asks people to wait, becuase the energy you cultivate stays with you for three dys. It isn't a sin to give energy to your wife, nor does it really make athat big of a difference in most cases.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts thanks a lot master..if you may I have another question..my dream realy is to know my self..and to be able to do knoking object from distance like jhon Chang..and I have no intension to offence persons plais can you teach me and if you want me to not teach it to others I swear its fine I do that and sorry..bad englich I'm from algeria namaste
Thanks for your perspective on this. Your mention of cult mindset reminds me of when my buddy joined a shing yi group, and then basically never hung out with me again. And I saw over time, that the members only hung out with each other. I initially considered joining, because they seemed to be getting great benefit, but I also felt a bit judged and the social weirdness turned me off to it, actually.
If i had a penny for everything wrong you said in this video I'd be a billionaire.
Ex student of Son of the gods - the immortal path. Please do a video on any experience you've had with the group or individuals who are/were a part of it. Thanks!
I've read a little about SOG on a Taoist forum but I don't know that much about SOG - I"m aware he likes to play some tricks and jokes on his viewers, and it appears he put his own system together, which means it may be missing a bunch of pieces of the puzzle... to acquire immortality.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts the group is connected by an energetic web. The energy transmission/group cultivations are very powerful. It led me to find my electric Qi much faster then it would have otherwise, especially without a teacher. Upon leaving the group you arn't allowed to continue using the techniques and there is a guardian spirit to take care of business if you do. I felt like I lost a lot leaving the group, however Nathan Brine's new book "the taoist alchemy of wang liping" has proven orders of magnetiude more helpful then the group. Though probably less helpful for someone who has not felt their Qi.
Son of the gods is very powerful, though I would not want to be him or live in his head. I would not be surprised at all if he goes the way of John McMillan, Jiang Feng etc. The group has a big enphasis on spirits%demons and a do wonder about the repercussions of these interactions.
He opened my eyes to so much and for that I have immense respect and gratitude.
Looking forward to more content Steve. Thanks.
@@MrElzephyr Why did you leave the group? He is upfront about the details of his style of cultivation. Because of those details, I didn't want to train in his system. I do respect him as a cultivator. He is serious and not half-assed with his practice. Other systems have a big focus on demons and spirits also.
@@shaunlindsey6467 I have a whole lot to thank SOTGs for and believe in paying my dues. I don't want to talk badly about SOTGs. Fundamentally I am grateful for the experiences and have nothing against him or the group.
I didn't like what the group was turning into and I didn't want to be like SOTGs. He walks a fine line. He goes hard and often pays the price. Hopefully it will never cost him the ultimate price.
Wang Lipings content (Nathan Brine, Three Pines Press etc.) has served me absokutely terrificly well since leaving.
@@MrElzephyr Wang Liping is on the opposite side of the spectrum. You can't go wrong with Wang Liping. When you get a chance, train with him. The books are good as a foundation for the practices. When you train with him in person, he creates an insanely powerful energy field. Somehow he can use the energy field to open up your channels. When I trained with him, I didn't know I had energy blocks. During the meditation, I could feel the blockages be removed. One of them was in my left arm from an injury. I felt shocking chi energy go through the bone marrow. From that day forward, my left Lao gong can burn hot. You will also be empowered by the energy he emits into the students. The type of energy he cultivates is unique in my experience training with other people. There are other good systems and other ways up the mountain also.
“Mo Pai is bullshit” - What are you, the Master Ken of chi kung?
Yes, i was inspired by Ken's bullshit series.
About the newspaper, if what John Chang said is true about him lighting a tree on fire with his chi in front of the Dayak people who had been throwing spears at him, surely he could set a piece of paper on fire effortlessly instead of fiddling about with it beforehand.
I have been, and still am, curious about the Mo Pai and fascinated by stories of masters like Liao Tsu Tong and Pai Lok Nen. If even half of what has been said about such men is true then they must've been absolutely incredible.
Unless such a man was to knock at my door and offer instruction, which is never going to happen, then I think I will prioritise eating well, meditating and doing some tai chi and/or health qigong that instead of getting involved in such things that can cause problems.
Thanks for the information. I do know that nei kung practitioners can generate a lot of heat with their hands, I can do it too. Concering what to practice, if you want to cultivate chi power then I sugggest adding something like Tien Shan practice to what you are doing. I'm hearing from students who are making amazing progress along those lines.
I really really bought into all this and its definitely a good, and convincing story. But to be fair to Mr. Chang it came out of Kostas mouth and not his.
@@johnblouch1544 I often wondered how much Kosta added on, although as far as I am aware nobody close to John, or John himself, ever came out to say he'd made things up.
Now Kosta distances himself from the whole thing, seemingly mocks those still interested in it and says he doesn't believe in the metaphysics behind the system.
@@Velasca Fair enough I've never heard of John Chang commenting on what Kosta says either. Jim McMillian and Kosta both had a reaaally bad habit of twisting large portions of what John said into their own belief systems and we've probably gotten a much polluted version of it all from that alone. I read Jim's book and he went on and on about John was wrong about this that and the next thing because it didn't coincide perfectly with his own religious world views. Yet John was the one (allegedly) flying around and throwing lightening, not him. Kosta also had to compare so much, sooo much of what John said to what the ancient Greeks did it was kind of ridiculous. It kind of reminds me of the scene from my big fat Greek wedding where the girls dad is claiming that if it weren't for the greeks we'd all be living in mud huts. I'm just glad I quit when I did honestly.
@@johnblouch1544 I always found it quite ridiculous that Jim went on about all that when, as you say, John was apparently flying around and throwing lightning. If I had such close access to a man doing these things, I'd probably keep quiet and learn, rather than fit it into my own previous perspective on things. He also called one of the previous grandmasters a demon! I'm surprised such a religious man would bother at all with such things.
Although we ultimately don't know that much about how John was, and much of it comes from Kosta and Jim, he comes across as quite likable to me in the few clips we see of him. If there was something genuine there, I like that combination of this man having these abilites but still being very ordinary in many ways... one minute shooting chi from his hands but sitting watching and betting on a game. A lot of it is still interesting to me but I won't be pursuing it further. I seek a T.T. Liang more than a John Chang :)
Thanks for the video. Can you suggest some good books for start practicing
where to look for learning the" real stuff
thanks
The real thing is usually hidden from the public. While there probably are some teachers who can teach the real thing, the only one I know about is myself, and me being non-Chinese, I am willing to teach others who are serious.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts i want to learn it
@@ruxoox6719 That's good. You can get started with some videos I've made, but keep in mind that, like it says in the video, it's a vast system and takes some years of dedication and being a personal student in order to take the journey.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts I would like to learn the real stuff and I am willing to put dedicated effort. What are my next steps ?
As of recently I’ve been generating massive heat through spine and my hands and idk why, I feel it’s energy or even kundalini energy. My wife even says my hands are so damn hot like hot hands.
Been on a spiritual path for sometime now as well (psychic)
It saddens me to consider Kosta and John might actually have lied about alot of things. I picked up from context clues and a ridiculous amount of scouring books and the internet what I thought were the actual methods af accumulating and condensing the chi, and like you said I suffered poor health as a result. FOUR YEARS after stopping my 'mo pai' training and continuing the Golden Flower method as it was intended without modifying it, supplemented with alot of chi kung microcosmic orbit type exercises was I finally able to undo MOST of the damage I had done to myself. Mo Pai is dangerous, and in here in the west it is presented in an incomplete fashion for the purpose of attention seeking. I could rant on about this for a long while but not too many people want a book long TH-cam comment. This is a great video and I hope more people consider using a the healthier more readily available methods presented like the golden flower method to name one, and stay away from mo pai.
Thank you for the information, and I'm sorry that you suffered due to the liars. I suggest that you stop doing the MCO and instead use a chi kung based purely on movement, like the excellent medical chi kung Xian Gong (Fragrant Qigong) I can send a link if you are interested. Also a good chi kung for health and chi power can possibly heal your situation, like the first levels of Tien Shan Chi Kung.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts Okay yeah ill definitely check it out! And thanks for the sympathy. Its hard to talk about because most people don't take these things seriously.
You are not alone, I also fell for this scam, I trained for a year until reached level 2 (and seeing no results I let it go), and today (many years later) I suffer the consequences in silence (because there is no one I could talk to about this kind of thing). Good luck.
@@MrRalm It saddens me that the egomaniac liars who promote these things are causing so much suffering and sickness, It is my wish that they pay for it with their karma, big time, and now, starting now. May they all burn in hell. Actually they already are, they just don't know it yet.
@@MrRalm I totally feel that. The only people I had to talk to were people who I had explored ritual magic with and even then they didn't really know ow what I was going through or how to help me. It was at least nice to have someone that actually listened and took me seriously, even of they didn't share my exact path.
If you need to talk boss I get it. I'll just rant a bit here for anyone interested.
I have recovered from the negative effects of 'packing' the dantian more or less but like any injury there is always a scar. I won't go anywhere near it again. But practicing the golden flower as described by Lu Dongbin and years of chi kung moving the energy through its natural pathways such as the microcosmic orbit did eventually fix me up. Honestly I mean what did I expect would happen? You dam up the energy flow and force it into one spot and then blow it up like a balloon and condense it like gas in a propane tank. All that energy can't go where its supposed to be in your body! The dantian is like a set of bike pedals that spins and with it the gears that make the bike move. But when you pack like that it shrinks and the energy can't reach the chain so the chi won't flow through the body. I mean its okay to put more energy into the pedals to make them stronger but the condensing shrinks it and really really makes a big mess of the whole system. I'm super lucky I had the sense to stop when I did.
What other systems can cultivate chi power?
Most of the systems of chi kung for cultivating power are hidden from the public, mine is available in videos at the beginning levels. Other than that the best way to cultivate chi power is with Zhan Zhuang, strenuous standing meditations.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts u do not know what u are on about....I spread the knowledge freely
Chi only work on 1 level of system on the body , but the body consist of different layers. If one understand the whole aspect of how himself is made up , different languages doesn't matter , you will understand the system. Chi , everyone has , but usually our Chi will generate and spend throughout our lives , and if we learn how to gather the Chi and reduce the Chi from leaking for no reason , then you could use in different way. For me , Gathering Chi is not something for fighting , human has so much potentials than just to hurt others.
Excuse me who were your teacher and from which lineage?
My teacher was Fook Yueng, and almost no one knows about him. The lineage is Tien Shan nei kung, which is real nei kung. In addition, it appears that the masters are often incarnations of dragons from the spirit realm.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts ur teacher isn’t known of course not plus everyone says they’re style is better then someone’s
🗣️ I generated heat in my hands in Daoist Yoga.
Their are some legitimate people who have met and studied with John Chang, who will testified in his abilities, who the hell are you, 😂
Look, kids, it's one of the fundamentalist cult members themselves. Notice how they miss the clear and obvious statement I made about John in the Video. Nothing can be done about it, it's their karma. To xxdummy, you would never be able to comprehend what I am.
Tien Shan Taoist Internal Arts Of course I can a bullshit artist and feather merchant 😂
For an old man you are very naive
Look in the mirror, Bozo.
@Paris Beck I agree.
@Paris Beck I run into clueless jealous idiots like you all the time. Anyone who talks "sparrring" is a clueless sporty guy, protected by rules. You try to punch me and you will not be protected by rules, and you may not get up for quite a while. Come on down and try to punch me dip shit. But first read my book, "A Lineage of Dragons" alineageofdragons.com/index.html
Paris Beck. You’ll notice Steve is only dis respectable to those who are disrespect able to him. As someone who as had a small taste of this nei kung is it very powerful. Humble yourself and you could learn a lot.
True my spelling and Grammar is not fantastic. But you should be able comprehend the general meaning of my words. Peace, take care.
What do you think of Solomon’s magic
Also mantak chai
mo ain't shit but the hype about it is
Ur just mad. Explain wat I have done
Explain the generating electricity?
Not sure, there are several ways. People are known to generate static electricity as a result of doing chi kung. Another is that some of those LED lights require such low power that anyone can light them up (so I've heard) In the final analysis, I don't know, because in real chi kung we do not concern ourselves with useless tricks.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts
"Not sure"
"so I've heard"
OK EMPTY FORCE HAHAHAHA
OK, I learned about generating the electricity.
You know what else is bullshit? Empty force
You know what thats a truth I do shotokan but people who do sanchin kata and do it well dose have a level of grunting fuse in it in fact on jessey empkamp video of Okinawa masters one of the master warn him don't do it alot because you would get hemroids like me which I can see the connection to prostate cancer
Because you over loading the root chakra
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is Merpati Putih bullshit?
I have never heard of it before, so I can't say, but I looked at the video and am not impressed. Doing agressive karate attacks, wearing uniforms and belts, large crowds of students who won't be getting much personal attention, and breaking things are all giant turn offs for me. Some people like it or don't know any better though.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts
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some kind of energy also?
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1. John Chang was declared dead by falling down a stair not long ago, I think it was 2021.
2. People who go to the gym don't die from pushups and hard stuff.
Thanks for the info
And you said he died of prostate cancer.
@@Luciano-jg5ws That was the most recent info I had at the time. I don't have control of this channel any more so I can't change anything on it.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts are you you the guy on this video?
@@DasboardTVDE Yes.
Why do you live in Ecuador?
I wanted to leave the land of poison to a place with pure air, water, and food, and with a twelve month growing season
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts that's nice. I guess my question was... Why Ecuador specifically? Why not India, Indonesia, west africa, or Costa Rica etc? Is there any spiritual significance to the place where you live? Or other biophysical significance like Earth's magnetic lines etc.? Thanks for your reply.
@@prakriti753 I grew up in different countries in South America, so it was a 'known' to me. Plus I was invited by a group who were going to establish a community there, to be like their Yoda. I checked it out and it looked good, but the people in the group all flaked out. After moving here people have told me that there are a lot of dragons around near the crest of the Andes, where I live, and they provide protection, because I am an incarnation of a dragon, so they are like my brothers ... or something. In addition, after I moved here I have read that the spiritual center of the Earth has moved from the Himalayas to the Andes mountains. So it was fate I guess. Thanks for asking.
@@prakriti753 One reason I came here was for survival, and I wanted to move south of the equator, due to radioactivity problems in the north.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts that's interesting to hear that there is a spiritual center for earth and that it has shifted...
Yeah maybe you shouldve started with you can die by grunting before I started trying it lol
Thank you for this video
You are welcome, have a good day.
My magic is better
MO PAI is a groundbreaking system; the issue, as has been emphasized numerous times in both Kung Fu movies and Star Wars, is that one must have a pure heart. That's where the secret lies. The second matter is - who is the teacher? This can be learned from the 2010 film "Chico Xavier". The training must be undergone alone in the forest, just like others including Masutatsu Oyama did. Good luck.
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Thank you.
There is a different channel which I am using to upload new videos, you can find it here:
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I also have a discussion forum for this kind of thing, which I invite you to join if you wish:
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You're drinking coffee. Coffee is full of mold. Just be happy you get to sit outside
If you suppose that John Chang performed tricks, why do you still believe other things he said about mopai like 72 levels etc..?
On thing I can tell, because I met Kostas is that what he said is bullshit. He left because he did not make any progress and wanted to advertise greek martial arts.
And that the greek monks can do that too is an absolute lie! I lived in greece and due to my strongly religious mother, went to a lot of monastaries where a lot of people were talking about the monks great supernatural or a better say got giving gifts. And there was nothing like that. Poeple saw everything he monks did or said as somethong supernatural. For example one guy was roling his eyes after the monk said something and the monk responded that he can see that he has doubtes and the people present started saying that he can read his mind... lol....
so that part is just not true
Thank you very much for the information, it sounds reasonable ... that Kostas was a liar ...
If kostas developed an understanding of karma, he wouldn't have told u about the monks. This dude being an actual practitioner would be among the slim percentage of people he would be comfortable discussing things of that nature with. The general consensus is that the vast majority of human would be hopeless to balance their lives having achieved awareness and control over fundamental forces, so if u were the one to make the existence of such things known to people who have no need knowing then u alone bear the karma. Good or bad.
To clarify, I'm not saying ur wrong or anything by any means. Kostas did lie about John being able to levitate 🤷♂️
The real mo pai
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Buddy.. what you said makes no sense. The monk said, I can SEE that you have doubts.. literally see, just as you did, with the rolling of the eyes. Just because people are dumb doesn't mean you should use their stupidity as evidence.
Where are the greek christian monks? I wanna learn from them
Most of them are in Greece. = )
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts where exactly my friend?
@@martialpath2990 Sorry, I don't know those kinds of details, but I suppose one would have to visit some of those monasteries that are hidden away in the mountains. Of course people who have special abilities often stay hidden, so it might not be easy. It would probably require joining a monastery and slowing finding out. It's never easy to find the real thing.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts greek is not as big as Indonesia or other countries🤔😬
if this guy can heat his hands and shoot electricity as well, I'd love to see it. Master zao could do it. I met someone in korea who could. This guy is also focusing on the external, i really wonder what this guys deal is?
Read the book "A Lineage of Dragons" to find out.
Thanks pops I was just suspicious because I got a gut filling that's why I searched for it , and fortunately i didn't fucked myself up thanks to you , you have my gratitude 🌸🙏
Thanks for clearing this up. Good explanation.
I am happy that it is helpful. I always disliked seeing scammers hurting people.
We’ll show us. U think they were all in on it in 1988 I highly doubt tht
What do you think about the Wim Hof breathing exercises?
RIP Jim McMillan 🙏
He did it to himself. Karma got him
then why are the remaining techniques being kept occult by you too?
why not teach the entire system yourself to truth seekers
Kostas hahahaha i only remember how delutional this poor guy is believing in thunder bolts being shot out of his masters hand lol people like kosta cant be helpped no doctors available for that
Ya, the only cure for beliefs is emotional maturity
Reality is only an agreed upon illusion....
Then what are better systems then please enlighten me I would like to know, I will admit I have been doing the western system and even help made small progress ( moving small objects and putting out candle flames) but I would like to progress further and safer I do have video proof of me doing so and would be willing to send it to you through email, please help and just so you know I’m not brain washed because know after the first two levels of Jim mcmillins book I did realize that there are limitations and the books not complete it only goes up to 5 levels so please teach me more I would love to be your student I am even willing to pay money just to show you how serious I am🙏
Hi Adam, these kinds of things are normally kept kind of secret, and so I'm not aware of other systems which are being taught which give similar results, except for my own, of course. I know this because my teacher was a very powerful and advanced master, and because some of my video students have gone far, and quickly. If you are already willing to try out Tien Shan, then by all means, go ahead and give it a try. This website is about the book which explains how the system works and my experiences along the Way, which you will like. It also has links to the school and to videos. If you go to the video page you can download the level one video and try it out. Since you have had some success with the limited Mo Pai then you should be able to make excellent progress in Tien Shan. Best wishes to you. alineageofdragons.com
This is my new Utube channel, where I am now uploading new videos th-cam.com/channels/Ugs0bVCQPZkEsgUeuGPYng.html
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts ok good I will look into it thank you I appreciate it
Teach me senpai 🙏
Hi Bryan, I'm sorry, I have not heard of senpai. Good luck inyour search.
White haired old wizard with all the true secret wisdom, please share how things are done properly. After all you're the Master...
I love to share - with serious students. Everyone else can keep guessing and follow the frauds.
I agree, John knew much more then what is being talked about and pushed in these western practices... Any qigong practitioner knows its all about balancing the meridians and opening up the 3 dan tiens through microcosmic orbit and other practices. Bone Marrow qigong is best explained by Mantak Chia. If people are gonna bash John and claim they have powers like his I'd much rather see them show it then just talk about them having it. John didn't even die from what he said..
After doing your Black Dragon Qigong and 10 minutes of Doaist (awareness) meditation I was able to create around 70 degrees Celsius of heat. Thank you for your teachings I will soon buy all of the Tien Shan Levels
Wow, I'm surprised, happily surprised, I didn't think the Black Dragon video would do that. Congratulations and thank you for sharing.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts What do you think of the Doaist Wizard on TH-cam: Grandmaster Wolf?
@@theconcaver9186 He looks like the real deal.
@@theconcaver9186 yes ,he is amazing
I think Grand Master Wolf is a fraud because he's been exposed doing magic tricks and deceiving people before. It ruins his credibility for me. I myself accomplish a lot of psychic phenomena through manipulation of awareness and just reprogramming myself, what does "Black Dragon Qigong" entail if you explain it very simple? @@theconcaver9186
Typical hater that can't show anything himself so has to lower others. The faulty logic of this so call truth revealers is that they automatically assume trickery is being done. Just because you can reproduce something with magic tricks doesn't mean they are doing that. I personally have seen the lighting of a newspaper that I brought myself to a Master and I made sure he wasn't putting anything to it.
Don't cry, little one. You are safe in your dreamland. Next work on your language comprehension, and listen to the video again,, without a chip on your shoulder. Just kidding.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts talk is cheap. Anyone who starts by saying other people's stuff are lies and put themselves as the real ones have the burden to prove themselves. And don't patronize me by the way, little one lol.
@@ricardocon7732 You missed the point of the video. I know people can generate a lot of heat from their hands cuz I'm one of them. The video is about the insane moronic cult of Western Mo Pai Students (WMPS) pronounced WIMPS, who only know two techniques, they are like the worst kind of religious fundamentalist idiots who you can not reason with. I have had discussions with those morons for years. now watch the video again and look for the true gist of the story, but first polish off your glass belly button.
the paper on fire could be real considering john chang does have abilities to generate heat/shocks. yea there is video's exposing that it can be done with trickery but there is another man who goes by jiang feng who can lights things on fire so it can be done not through trickery. other than this after further investigation i was wondering why mopai is so obscure, the more i research Indonesia the main esoteric school over there is merpati puti, it also starts with an m and the 2nd word starts with a p too. there's no way mopai is a unique system also never once got any real reference directly from john chang that he teaches 'mopai' too.
I agree, Jesus. I know people can generate a lot of heat with their hands, I can do it myself. So I stand corrected on that it may not have been a trick. However, the way John massages the paper before hand implies the use of chemicals. I assumed that the school may have been authentic in Indonesia, however it is clear that the Westerners that learned from John were taught poorly, and the Westerners that learned from those guys are true freak shows.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts He does use invisible string when "testing" his students with the cardboard boxes. It's easily seen cause he accidently stepped on it and moved a box more after it was "knocked down."
It also looked similarly suspicious when moving the old swords on the table, like an act. Easy magicians trick.
@@MichaelGrady Thank you for the info, and you have a good eye to have seen that.
what system would you recommend for cultivating chi and to learn how to project it for healing proposes, meaning to heal others.
Sorry, I can't help you much with that, I've led kind of a sheltered life. I was lucky to have been referred to a really amazing system and a very advanced master in my city, and I didn't look around that much. So, aside from my own system, the best system for cultivating chi power is with zhan zhuang standing meditations done with a little accent on lower stances. As far as projecting it is concerned, once again aside from the special techniques taught in my system, I think it should start happening spontaneously when you have built up enough chi power and you use your hand with the needed intent.
no breaths or hard sounds.. just works on a cool good feeling method.. a circular yin style of cultivating high level chi work
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Show us how you light things up then.
I never tried that, and in fact I don't give a shit about those silly kinds of circus TRICKS. "Watch out! Or he'll zap you with the hard lump in his stomach" So much circus bullshit, eh? Real nei kung is about cultivating super health (which Mo Pai is NOT), balance (not falling down), spiritual growth, and enlightenment. In fact my first serious video students had his kundalini experience after only seven months of following my videos, and he had never donw hci kung or meditation before. I think that trumps the ridiculous, left hand path, Mo pai BS. John was a nice guy, but teaching for free is a danger sign to watch out for. The stuff that has REAL VALUE is NEVER taught for free. Get the message there, boy? I'll tell you a little secret, cultivating chi power is an extension of cultivating super health. Go break a glass pop bottle for us to prove how great Mo Pai is, OK?
Thanks for the kind words Steve. I will state one thing though I did start off with the “ wimpy chi kung” before I found your system which is vastly more physically demanding and powerful. Secondly the kundalini brings both negative and positive and is largely part to the powerful chikung/ nei kung. I think for most it’s best being slower and gradual lol. Peace and respect 🙏
@@joeboo1983 A match made in heaven.
What are the most effective ways to cultivate chi? where can i learn it from.?Thanks