John did what he did and knew what he was doing to open the minds and hearts of others. He took that punishment knowing the consequences. The world needs it for those with good intent at heart
Thank you for giving your time to explain this. So much wisdom thru your experience, only by living it you are able to share it. Much gratitude and respect. Namaste Master.
The gift of glorious white energy that can effect others in positive ways, internal energy and health is the greatest. As well as hopefully coming better person for ones self and others. I feel these are the real gifts of Tien Shan and real Neikung ever humble in the presence of the masters.
Interesting point, that would explay why nobody of any lineage shows stuff to the public, maybe the ancestors of most lineages don't want that to happen.
I remember John said in the video his teacher visit him all night and angry to him that show learned skills to the camera. From that ı can understand it has physchic danger inside since john was meditating 8 hours a day. In that state you are exploring the other dimensions (these visits similar to Astral journey). in that dimension there are different creatures (black,white,grey) or a dragon as these guys see. Jins can show themselfs as a dragon ,as a snake or bad energy.
Having a goal of celestial immortal could disappoint you, because so few get there. I suggest you work at becoming an Earthly immortal , which is one of the main stepping stones, and is easier to achieve. If you do that well then you could go further, to Celestial immortal. If you meditate with the high energy meditations then you can become more psychic
Does that mean that different paths exist, and different paths to Immortality, with different masters, and different requirements? Does that mean there may be a system with masters out there that don't mind students preserve their "ego" because they have a different philosophy?
who knows, maybe what he was saying right in this video is exactly what happened to him, many others have been supposedly killed by extreme nei gong, see John Chang, one of his western students and many others.. Before starting this journey, one should seek a true master old enough to have withstood the harsness of the discipline, that'd be a good sign that the way they practices was safe. I believe that unfortunately due to many reasons, among which also the cultural revolution, the safe and deepest way to practice Nei Gong might have been partially lost, unlike what happened to many types of yoga which have instead withstood the test of time and are safely practiced in many instances. I hope the Tian Shan tradition is not totally lost in time with the death of this Master and his followers, thank you for what you did for the community
'seek a true master old enough to have withstood the harshness of the discipline, that'd be a good sign that the way they practices was safe' Just because someone practicing something is older it doesn't necessarily mean it's safe as we all have different tolerance levels to things before they cause issues. I've warned many on unsafe energy practices they were doing from online which they were convinced was safe due to others doing them with no issues, only for some of those to end up finding out the hard way that what they were doing certainly wasn't safe for themselves. It's a sad situation as these ones then harmed, often have no one to help them at all once things go really wrong.
@@tanyabrown9839 I feel the same way every time someone says they "meditate".... Like, you need pro guidance. You can't just start doing this stuff nilly willy, even if it sounds safe. I know plenty of people who have actually lost their minds just meditating. Same with people who claim to practice western ceremonial magick, or anything else like that. It's very easy to get lost in your own head and lose it.
Thank you for your warning, brother! I do wonder, though, with how selective these so-called spiritual beings are, will such wisdom and knowledge eventually find no human vessels to pass on such teachings? And if so, I do wonder how many other schools that teached such secret knowledge and wisdom have been discontinued because of it?
I've seen 2 dragons in meditation. One large, earthen brown and green flying unperturbed by anything - eternally indifferent and seemingly peaceful; it did not show it's face to me. One Red, massive, mechanistic and full of wrath - it glared at me once as something despicable but ignored me as it had an agenda at hand. Lastly, though I have never seen it myself, my TCM teacher said he saw a Black Dragon watching over me. I used to practice basic meditation and breathwork with a focus on the Dantien - I found that the spiritual afflictions became too much, so I stopped, but it had tremendous impact on my personal and professional life. What are the dragons? What do they mean and what is their motive?
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts It was presented to him as critical to medical interests. Just thought I'd mention cause Chang is getting all this heat (heh, heh) for betraying secrets, etc.. Don't know if it's true. Read it. Seems plausible....
Would you say that self-actualization is a good reason? It seems fine but could from a certain point of view be seen as similar to a simple desire for power by some (as reaching one’s full potential as, say, a martial artist would include reaching ones full power potential).
I intuitively started doing Nei Gong/Internal Alchemy to heal an imbalance in my sexual energy 4 years ago, after I had stopped watching Porn. I became a lot more aware of my energy when I used psychedelics, and had a longing for pure state of energy. However, when I became aware of my energy, I did not understand my energy at all or how to control it, which resulted in in the imbalance I have mentioned. Needless to say it has been a long journey so far, I have come close to being in balance with my higher self, through intuition and listening, however I am so deep in an imbalance that I do not know what to do now other than seek help from a trained master. This is because I accidentally exacerbated the imbalance by doing some kind of Alchemy, my intention was healing but i feel like I was tricked by my Ego or some kind of spirit. Now I am in a place that I do not understand, my energy is all messed up and im having some strange experiences on a daily basis. Im experiencing a lot of suffering that cannot be explained by anyone. I am looking for help everywhere.
You must ground yourself after doing reverse breathing by walking or standing barefoot on the ground. You must also have a way to circulate the chi after doing reverse breathing by "holding the ball." If your chi gets blocked, you must know how to move it, perhaps with movements, DuiNa massage, accupuncture, or herbs. If the yang chi rises into the chest or head, you must know how to bring it back down. For example if you feel pressure in your heart, slap the heart area by alternating left and right hands in a downward sweeping motion. Sincerity and prayer don't hurt either.
@@lan92034 Thank you, I'm better now. I still have a long path ahead, but it's much clearer now fear is not blocking the way. All thanks to having recieved acupuncture a couple times, through meditation and acknowledging the power of the mind. I've been able to relieve alot of suffering by remaining present to the moment, making the right decisions and having faith, going with the flow 🙏☯️
'used psychedelics' that is a big mistake there, one can't fast track proper development and psychedelics cause damage. ' my intention was healing.' nods, even with good intentions sometimes things can go very wrong if one doesn't know the dangers. I'm not a 'trained master' but I work with energy and did myself have a very good Master teaching me energywork, I don't know if I can help you or not but if I see you have responded to me I will try. What are the 'strange' experiences' you are experiencing which are bothering you? and what kind of suffering are you having? thirdly, may I scan your energy? (as that would help me give you better advice).
@@tanyabrown9839 This is in the past now. All was apart of my journey. Psychedelics taught me a lot and I dont regret using them. Now im on herbal medication and following my inner guide. Thank you.
This video is great to understand the dangers presented here. These, and many other reasons, are why I prefer Waidan over Neidan. Badhuan Jin & Yijing Jin are more than enough to learn. There is no need to practice Neidan arts.
Above all strength lays just below truth. Once truth is revealed. I long to know the secrets of life, of earth, of all. Once truth is revealed, true strength is discovered
I wish the ancestors would wake up because the people of this world do not live ethically anymore! Leaving aside the whole "sovrannatural" issue - that I ignore completely, I'd be happy if people would behave well... Anyway, I like how you tell it to us slowly and warmly. Thank you very much. 🌱
I sense bitterness in your words midway through. But that's the beauty of free speech and free will. Why not grant these cultist the opportunity to practice their religion the way they see fit?
People can do anything they want, and if the liars and cheaters help speed their way to hell then that is cause to celebrate. I get pissed off when liars and cheaters mislead people, plus I used to work in the shipyards and was a biker ... back when it was UNpopular. So you know, fuck them, may they burn in hell
Yes. Mozi believed we're fingers of a hand, but some don't realize. We may need to fight the wicked but in our prayers we wish them to be healthy and happy with useful possessions and experiences because that's what will help them mature. If you curse them, you will most likely only hurt yourself unless you personally have been severely wronged by them somehow. Mozi promoted the Lankavatara sutra, not hatred of the deluded.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts Yes agrees. Glad I found you and crossed paths even if just on youtube. I have studied john chang and I have patiently been practicing mo pai and nei gong combined. I do it to better the future and to protect the innocent and vanquish the evils of this reality. I watched captain planet and the good actual dragon ball z when dbz was morally a good show back in the day. Captain planet they discontinued and you certainly know why they did bc morally it was absolute. But I have been practicing and my intent is pure. It's the intent at heart of practicing and gaining these abilities. I did make videos to preserve mo pai and nei gong but are gone because I decided to keep it away from bad intentions in the hearts of others. The future is not good. Not good at all. Take care. Peace unto you all
@Nei Gong Adept well after I have stood still for over 30 mins to an hour I have no room for negative emotions as it seems I am empty and full of something 🤗 far from hate.
I fully agree that it is not possible to spread swords around the world without consequences. But hopefully - as you say - 99% of these swords will be made of plastic and will serve only to spin nice movies. 😉
John did what he did and knew what he was doing to open the minds and hearts of others. He took that punishment knowing the consequences. The world needs it for those with good intent at heart
Thank you for sharing! Always nice to hear all of the different pads that people travel with different perspectives
Thank you for giving your time to explain this. So much wisdom thru your experience, only by living it you are able to share it.
Much gratitude and respect.
Namaste Master.
Lots of wisdom in your words
With great power comes great responsibility
🙏
The gift of glorious white energy that can effect others in positive ways, internal energy and health is the greatest. As well as hopefully coming better person for ones self and others. I feel these are the real gifts of Tien Shan and real Neikung ever humble in the presence of the masters.
Love this. Thank you so much 🙏🏾
I am happy that you liked it, thank you for commenting.
Interesting point, that would explay why nobody of any lineage shows stuff to the public, maybe the ancestors of most lineages don't want that to happen.
So as far as I can tell, the original art of neigong practise is linked directly with Zhan Zhuang?
Very well said Master...There are no shortcuts!
how did u open your mindsight, do u think if u wereto go completly blind u still could use mindsight to live normal?
Are you familiar with the Kunlun system of Max Christensen? Ok or to be avoided?
I remember John said in the video his teacher visit him all night and angry to him that show learned skills to the camera. From that ı can understand it has physchic danger inside
since john was meditating 8 hours a day. In that state you are exploring the other dimensions (these visits similar to Astral journey).
in that dimension there are different creatures (black,white,grey) or a dragon as these guys see.
Jins can show themselfs as a dragon ,as a snake or bad energy.
Im interested in learning properly. What should I do? Hoe would the spirits approve me?
I want this path as my spiritual path instead of witchcraft.
Is it ok if it's because I want to become a cleastial Immortal and see the world in the higher dimensions.
Having a goal of celestial immortal could disappoint you, because so few get there. I suggest you work at becoming an Earthly immortal , which is one of the main stepping stones, and is easier to achieve. If you do that well then you could go further, to Celestial immortal. If you meditate with the high energy meditations then you can become more psychic
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts Thankyou sir , for your fine advice 🙏.
Does that mean that different paths exist, and different paths to Immortality, with different masters, and different requirements? Does that mean there may be a system with masters out there that don't mind students preserve their "ego" because they have a different philosophy?
Taoism doesn't have a problem with ego and they don't play that silly "kill the ego" game.
There are many different sects within Taoism.
Native American system is called the way of power.
Ours is different as it’s not supposed to be hidden away but used to help people.
This is high level stuff. Thank you for the warning. I should be safe.
who knows, maybe what he was saying right in this video is exactly what happened to him, many others have been supposedly killed by extreme nei gong, see John Chang, one of his western students and many others.. Before starting this journey, one should seek a true master old enough to have withstood the harsness of the discipline, that'd be a good sign that the way they practices was safe. I believe that unfortunately due to many reasons, among which also the cultural revolution, the safe and deepest way to practice Nei Gong might have been partially lost, unlike what happened to many types of yoga which have instead withstood the test of time and are safely practiced in many instances. I hope the Tian Shan tradition is not totally lost in time with the death of this Master and his followers, thank you for what you did for the community
'seek a true master old enough to have withstood the harshness of the discipline, that'd be a good sign that the way they practices was safe'
Just because someone practicing something is older it doesn't necessarily mean it's safe as we all have different tolerance levels to things before they cause issues. I've warned many on unsafe energy practices they were doing from online which they were convinced was safe due to others doing them with no issues, only for some of those to end up finding out the hard way that what they were doing certainly wasn't safe for themselves. It's a sad situation as these ones then harmed, often have no one to help them at all once things go really wrong.
@@tanyabrown9839 I feel the same way every time someone says they "meditate".... Like, you need pro guidance. You can't just start doing this stuff nilly willy, even if it sounds safe. I know plenty of people who have actually lost their minds just meditating. Same with people who claim to practice western ceremonial magick, or anything else like that. It's very easy to get lost in your own head and lose it.
Thank you for your warning, brother! I do wonder, though, with how selective these so-called spiritual beings are, will such wisdom and knowledge eventually find no human vessels to pass on such teachings? And if so, I do wonder how many other schools that teached such secret knowledge and wisdom have been discontinued because of it?
I've seen 2 dragons in meditation. One large, earthen brown and green flying unperturbed by anything - eternally indifferent and seemingly peaceful; it did not show it's face to me. One Red, massive, mechanistic and full of wrath - it glared at me once as something despicable but ignored me as it had an agenda at hand. Lastly, though I have never seen it myself, my TCM teacher said he saw a Black Dragon watching over me. I used to practice basic meditation and breathwork with a focus on the Dantien - I found that the spiritual afflictions became too much, so I stopped, but it had tremendous impact on my personal and professional life. What are the dragons? What do they mean and what is their motive?
Apparently the Blairs lied to John Chang to get that footage for Ring of Fire
That figures, and they are followed by a long line of liars and egomaniacs. May they burn in hell for messing with the system.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts It was presented to him as critical to medical interests. Just thought I'd mention cause Chang is getting all this heat (heh, heh) for betraying secrets, etc.. Don't know if it's true. Read it. Seems plausible....
And is it ok if I begin practising to make my therapies better to help people? I've studied chinese medicine.
Same here :) ❤🙋♂️
Would you say that self-actualization is a good reason? It seems fine but could from a certain point of view be seen as similar to a simple desire for power by some (as reaching one’s full potential as, say, a martial artist would include reaching ones full power potential).
I intuitively started doing Nei Gong/Internal Alchemy to heal an imbalance in my sexual energy 4 years ago, after I had stopped watching Porn. I became a lot more aware of my energy when I used psychedelics, and had a longing for pure state of energy. However, when I became aware of my energy, I did not understand my energy at all or how to control it, which resulted in in the imbalance I have mentioned. Needless to say it has been a long journey so far, I have come close to being in balance with my higher self, through intuition and listening, however I am so deep in an imbalance that I do not know what to do now other than seek help from a trained master.
This is because I accidentally exacerbated the imbalance by doing some kind of Alchemy, my intention was healing but i feel like I was tricked by my Ego or some kind of spirit. Now I am in a place that I do not understand, my energy is all messed up and im having some strange experiences on a daily basis. Im experiencing a lot of suffering that cannot be explained by anyone. I am looking for help everywhere.
You must ground yourself after doing reverse breathing by walking or standing barefoot on the ground. You must also have a way to circulate the chi after doing reverse breathing by "holding the ball." If your chi gets blocked, you must know how to move it, perhaps with movements, DuiNa massage, accupuncture, or herbs. If the yang chi rises into the chest or head, you must know how to bring it back down. For example if you feel pressure in your heart, slap the heart area by alternating left and right hands in a downward sweeping motion. Sincerity and prayer don't hurt either.
How are you doing now???
@@lan92034 Thank you, I'm better now. I still have a long path ahead, but it's much clearer now fear is not blocking the way. All thanks to having recieved acupuncture a couple times, through meditation and acknowledging the power of the mind. I've been able to relieve alot of suffering by remaining present to the moment, making the right decisions and having faith, going with the flow 🙏☯️
'used psychedelics' that is a big mistake there, one can't fast track proper development and psychedelics cause damage.
' my intention was healing.' nods, even with good intentions sometimes things can go very wrong if one doesn't know the dangers.
I'm not a 'trained master' but I work with energy and did myself have a very good Master teaching me energywork, I don't know if I can help you or not but if I see you have responded to me I will try. What are the 'strange' experiences' you are experiencing which are bothering you? and what kind of suffering are you having? thirdly, may I scan your energy? (as that would help me give you better advice).
@@tanyabrown9839 This is in the past now. All was apart of my journey. Psychedelics taught me a lot and I dont regret using them. Now im on herbal medication and following my inner guide. Thank you.
This video is great to understand the dangers presented here. These, and many other reasons, are why I prefer Waidan over Neidan. Badhuan Jin & Yijing Jin are more than enough to learn. There is no need to practice Neidan arts.
I have practiced many methods and they all benefit if done correctly
You must have a determined strong will else wise you won't have the creativity of manifestation
Use affirmations. Positive and negative. "I am little but I am powerful!"
Do this and see the end result but patience, persistence, consistency are all relevant
Above all strength lays just below truth. Once truth is revealed. I long to know the secrets of life, of earth, of all. Once truth is revealed, true strength is discovered
I wish the ancestors would wake up because the people of this world do not live ethically anymore! Leaving aside the whole "sovrannatural" issue - that I ignore completely, I'd be happy if people would behave well... Anyway, I like how you tell it to us slowly and warmly. Thank you very much. 🌱
the second video was taken down 🥲 anywhere to find it ?
I sense bitterness in your words midway through. But that's the beauty of free speech and free will. Why not grant these cultist the opportunity to practice their religion the way they see fit?
People can do anything they want, and if the liars and cheaters help speed their way to hell then that is cause to celebrate. I get pissed off when liars and cheaters mislead people, plus I used to work in the shipyards and was a biker ... back when it was UNpopular. So you know, fuck them, may they burn in hell
Yes. Mozi believed we're fingers of a hand, but some don't realize. We may need to fight the wicked but in our prayers we wish them to be healthy and happy with useful possessions and experiences because that's what will help them mature. If you curse them, you will most likely only hurt yourself unless you personally have been severely wronged by them somehow. Mozi promoted the Lankavatara sutra, not hatred of the deluded.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts Yes agrees. Glad I found you and crossed paths even if just on youtube. I have studied john chang and I have patiently been practicing mo pai and nei gong combined. I do it to better the future and to protect the innocent and vanquish the evils of this reality. I watched captain planet and the good actual dragon ball z when dbz was morally a good show back in the day. Captain planet they discontinued and you certainly know why they did bc morally it was absolute. But I have been practicing and my intent is pure. It's the intent at heart of practicing and gaining these abilities. I did make videos to preserve mo pai and nei gong but are gone because I decided to keep it away from bad intentions in the hearts of others. The future is not good. Not good at all. Take care. Peace unto you all
@@John-eh8wm he has passed r.i.p
@@AngelMerus No seriously... what....
the ngostics definition of "immortal" is to get out of this false copy world and return to valhalla (the source).
full body electricity, thick heavy fluidic chi, and the release of all blockages is my path
🙏🙏🙏☯️well said. Heck even today someone can make a nuclear bomb from the net. Sad.
Hate?...... is part of ego..... obviously not training enough.... 🤗
@Nei Gong Adept well after I have stood still for over 30 mins to an hour I have no room for negative emotions as it seems I am empty and full of something 🤗 far from hate.
@@mrsmallpinky9041 It seems to me that hate is not an emotion but a mental condition caused by thinking.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts Hai
I agree with that Sir 🙏🤗
Unconcious Thinking it seems can lead us into all sorts 😇.
@@TienShanTaoistInternalArts postion wood and metal prescribed to all the world leaders would be a great start 😂🙏
I noted this as well. as well as a few other comments that stuck out of place for me.
not what Simu taught
🙏🏼😇🙏🏾
👊🏾😎👍🏼
And may the force be with you all as well.
Self defense?
I fully agree that it is not possible to spread swords around the world without consequences. But hopefully - as you say - 99% of these swords will be made of plastic and will serve only to spin nice movies. 😉
i do not understand. Laotse in his system said "Nature hates weapons. Heroic is better than warrior
The magus of java is the best best best best best times infinity the best best book
Politics. Nobody wins.
Real nie gong