The Difference between Tourette's and OCD | Kati Morton
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I was diagnosed with OCD when I was 10. I had no idea what it was - these impulses forcing me to wake two hours earlier so that I could count down 7200 seconds on the clock every morning, telling me to recite every detail of my day in a whisper each night before I went to sleep? The tapping, the counting - everything I was suddenly forced to do for no apparent reason, as though my very mind had turned against me ... I wish I'd had this video back then, 14 years ago: instead I hid it for as long as I could, afraid I was going insane, that I'd be sent to an asylum. Right until I took a box of pills, choosing that over a life of such torture. The knowledge in this video could have saved me so much distress, so much fear. I'm glad kids today have the internet, where they can get this information from videos like yours. Thank you, Kati, for what you do.
Rachel M First off, I just wanted to say that I am glad you are okay. I would also like to share with you something that has helped me with my mental health struggles. That is to never say "if only" and instead accept whatever happened. I have found that saying "if only" increases my frustration, and acceptance enables me to deal with whatever is happening now. My Bipolar 2 Disorder with Rapid Cycling was mistaken for ADD with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Major Depression when I was 13 years old because it's fairly uncommon in minors. I've caught myself thinking that perhaps I wouldn't have had the mixed episode that landed me in the hospital for three weeks two years ago if I had gotten the proper diagnosis and help in the first place. Then, I remind myself that, sometimes, people make mistakes, I eventually got all the help I needed, and that, although I have a bit of a handicap, I can still live a happy, fulfilling life if I accept my past, present, and whatever the future holds.
Rachel M i have ocd too. i suffer more from intrusive thoughts. i made a video on ocd and intrusive thoughts. over the years its gotten better for me. itll get better
I have adhd Tourette’s and ocd it sucks
One time I was hanging out with my friend at her apartment and her roommate made a distinct throat noise that scared me the first time I heard it. She explained that she had Tourette's and it was just her tick. I was fascinated so I began asking her more questions and she explained that she could hold it in but it was much more satisfying to just let it loose especially when she was at her own place.
So I said "oh so it's like a fart??" 😂 she laughed and said yes it was pretty much like a fart. After that I was very supportive of her being able to tick at her own apartment because I'll be dammed if someone tells me not to fart in my own house. Hahahaha
This is hilarious!
Southern Discomfort no it was like a deep throat noise like she was swallowing a huge pill or something. Out of context I was just like "are you okay??"
that so nice i wish
that my friends were like that when I tic x
Thank you so much Kati for having me on and exploring this topic with me! :)
Instant subscribe, always wanting to learn more about science! Also experiencing a severe case of hair envy!
Off topic but your hair is awesome! 😍
both of your guys' hair is amazing.
Tourettes is actually extremely anxiety based. As someone with ocd and tourettes i found this pretty accurate apart from that. A lot of the time my tics get a lot worse with my anxiety
My Tourette’s are 99% cause by large amounts of stress
My boyfriend has both OCD, and Tourette's and this was so interesting to learn the differences between the two ☺️
You're a great girlfriend and person for trying to learn more about what he has
Yea fr I have adhd ocd and ts definitely helps mentally knowing someone else knows what's going on
Also you have a very lucky man. It’s very kind of you to look into his disability’s to better understand them. It’s always nice to have a shoulder that knows what struggles you may face to cry on.
So do I!
Teacher here--I had a student with Tourette's one year (5th grade). The other kids were so cruel to him. That was over ten ago. I really hope he's doing well now. Thanks for sharing this video and educating people!
Why wouldn't people react in a negative way to something that bothers them and they want to stop but they can't.
@@user-un8jx8yo7z Sorry? Bothers them?
It feels absolutely cruel to live with Tourettes and you think about the other kids? There's a lot of tics that doesn't bother anyone but the person living with it!
I have OCD and I've always thought about it like a mental rash that gets really inflamed the more you scratch it. Treatment basically involves holding back on the urge to pick and scratch (compulsions) so that the inflammation (obsession) goes away on its own. Easier said than done, of course. I guess with Tourette's the tics are more like individual itches that just need to be scratched.
this is exactly how i overcame tourettes and ocd by age 8. It's a mind exercise of self control, and then it goes away magically.
like meditation. Mind over matter. You really have to have a strong mind for this to work.
@@kkp4297 neither of those things are something you just 'overcome'.... thats actually kinda insensitive. Because it implies that people struggling with those disorders are 'weak' because they can't get rid of them... they're both lifelong illnesses.
@@Krystal-OAbsolutely ..!!🙏💕
I actually think that my tics are physically tiresome. That is my biggest struggle
Thank you for posting this. I was diagnosed as a child with both and it has been a struggle. Tourettes is also hereditary and now my son has it. When i was a kid it was hard to control but the older I get it is much easier. The hardest part is when others do not know what it is and think its funny when deep inside its a daily struggle. I just found your videos and I am so happy I did!
She’s so sweet and calming. I love the way she talks!
Woah came on soon as this was uploaded! Excited to learn more
This is a fantastic vid, Inés is awesome! Thank you x
okay random but the other girl [ her guest] really reminded me of quinn
from zoey101 lol
Thank you Kati and Ines. Loved the video.
This video was really cool as a person struggling with ocd, thank you!
Thanks for sharing! After seeing you uploaded this video, I immediately watched it when I got home.
The difference between both is so well explained. A must watch for everyone to end the stigma about those 'visible' mental disorders.
xxx Janne
Thank you both so much for making this video. My child and myself both struggle from 'alphabet soup' diagnosis. We relate to each other but it's a struggle to explain to others. This video will be wonderful to share.
I’m diagnosed with OCD but I’m almost certain I don’t have it. I don’t have the anxiety, I know everything will be fine if I don’t do the thing. I just need to do it. I’m definitely going to talk to someone about them being tics or stims rather than compulsions.
Me too!
@@srldwg this was a really funny comment to discover. in the two years since I posted it, I’ve discovered I definitely Do have ocd lol. It’s a lot more complicated and intrusive thought focused than I’d thought
@@L_Asteri was just given an ocd diagnosis a few months ago. 😅 I was definitely in denial. But I definitely have it.. bad. Lol
I have tourettes syndrome, but its very mild now, compared to when i was a kid... when i get nervous or i have to explain an incident, i keep repeating the same word over and over.
But when i was a kid my eyes blinked like crazy, and i had all kinds of tics.
As someone with OCD I’ve always wondered what the difference was between them. This video really helped me understand. Thank you :)
I have OCD and have been wondering what the difference was for a while so this was really helpful! Thanks
Can you talk about the differences between ADHD, Bipolar, and PTSD.
When I was younger, I was diagnosed with both Tourettes and OCD. My doctor had told me that most people grow out of Tourettes by their 20's, and mine got so bad that my muscles all over my body would tense up until I couldn't breathe (this used to happen so often when I was young that I stayed in pain) and then it would release and I would scream. And I've had neck tics (always trying to pop my neck) and I couldn't stand certain textures of things. Luckily by my early 20's, most of that went away. I still have the neck tics and the touch sensitivity is still there - but not as bad (the muscle-tightening thing still happens but VERY rarely - oddly only when it's freezing outside and I get into a vehicle. No clue why that is.). As for OCD, I think I still have that, but oddly, that got better after I met my husband and I was forced to accept that I couldn't have things a certain way all the time, and I've eventually even stopped obsessing over stuff. I do have bad anxiety still though, but watching your videos has really helped me and I've been trying to use the tips you've given. Thanks for your great videos! :)
great video! Thanks!
great video, as always xoxo
I've had OCD literally my entire life and never once did anyone compare it to tourettes... very interesting learning how the brain works and processes information so differently in every one of us.
Great video Kati!
They're barely similar at all idk why this is even a video tbh. Obsessively doing things is different than making constant uncontrollable actions because of anxiety.
@@user-un8jx8yo7z You are misinformed. I have both OCD and Tourette’s and they are VERY similar. While OCD makes me get stuck on a thought, Tourette’s pretty much does the same with a sound or movement.
I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I was diagnosed with it 5 years ago, but once I began to learn more and more about it, I realized that the anxiety and invasive thoughts that I have dealt with since I was 6, was in deed OCD. It is very hard to overcome it. I agree %100 percent with its two steps forward and one step back!
Wow! I can't believe you actually answered my question haha thank you so much Katie!
Thanks so much for explaining "the urge". I have Tourette's, and I went without a diagnosis for 24 years. People call tics "involuntary" and that's not entirely accurate. I went to CBIT, but stopped after a while, because what I was learning in CBIT was everything I did instinctively the whole time I was growing up.
That is the most beautiful hair I have ever seen
Love your videos
I don't have Tourette's, but I have a simple ticking disorder and OCD. I find that reading self help books also help and I think talking to someone who understands will help. Unfortunately I don't have someone like that, but I have a psychiatrist and he helps a lot.
The only thing you missed in diagnosing TS is that tics must be present for at least a year before it is officially diagnosed.
I just wanted to say thank you to both of you! My daughter was recently diagnosed with Tourette's syndrome last year at the age of 8. She also has comorbidities such as OCD and ADHD. She started showing symptoms of Tourette's somewhere between the age of 5-6, but not knowing much about TS at the time it took me 2 years to figure out what was really going on. We had been in and out of doctors offices where she was put on medications for allergies (because of the throat clearing, coughing, and forceful blinking), and I'd finally come to the conclusion that it may be OCD since I myself have OCD. I tried using guided meditation and imagery and EFT to help her with going to sleep at night, but some nights we were still awake till past 1am (which would inevitably make it worse the next day). I hated seeing her go through that as I somewhat knew what it felt like going through similar problems when I was a child. I stumbled across a Tourette's awareness video which truly felt like a miracle to me, as if I was given the answer I'd been looking for. The next week we visited her doctor and had a referral to see a pediatric neurologist 2 days later where we finally got our answer. I was worried about how she'd handle it at school, but luckily she has a GREAT sense of humor and could almost care less what other kids think of her (in superficial ways), which makes everything so much easier for her. Although, sometimes the comorbidities can be just as difficult to deal with, and they can also make parenting a more difficult job, not knowing what actions call for discipline and correcting a behavior and when she really can't help something and I need to be understanding. Sometimes I feel as if she already has teenage mood swings, one minute she'll be the sweetest little girl in the world and the next minute I can't figure out what's going through her head and why she did or said something, but most of the time when I ask the only response I get is a shrug or an "I don't know"... I don't want her to feel so alone or misunderstood as I did as a child, but I'm just not sure how to handle some situations. She's an amazing little girl, extremely intelligent, very artistic and creative, and has a sense of humor that can make anyone laugh, but some days she's just not herself (and it usually becomes a difficult day for both of us, because I'm not sure how to help.). I feel like the more I can learn about Tourette's syndrome and it's many possible comorbidities, the better I'll be able to help her with what she's going through. I would love to see more videos about this! And I'm open to any websites or book references either of you have. Thank you again for caring so much about people. I wish more people cared as much about mental (and neurological) health as you and the people on your show do.
Ps: totally unrelated, but are you an INFP according to the Jung Typology test? Just curious... I'm an INFP.
Or maybe ENFP?
Not sure which is worse but OCD has often made my life hell since I was a child. I tried to hide it for so many years because I was embarrassed but eventually opened up a little bit and finally started seeing a therapist in my mid-20's. By fighting the urges/compulsions I've managed to improve things so much compared to when I was a child but unfortunately I still struggle with a number of frustrating compulsions every day. One interesting thing I've noticed though is that I grew up religious which unfortunately fueled my fears and urges but losing my belief in the supernatural has worked wonders in allowing my rational brain to fight the compulsions. Although with all of my anxiety, ADHD and trichotillomania the OCD is actually the thing I worry about least.
Thanks Kati this video was super interesting! A couple years ago when I was about 18 I struggled with pretty bad anxiety for several months. During that time I developed a bunch of ticks including my shoulder or neck jerking and gasping. I've never been diagnosed with Tourettes (or OCD) but those ticks seemed awfully Tourettes like! Even though now I don't struggle with such intense anxiety anymore I still sometimes have ticks when stressed. I was wondering if you (or anyone else) knows what that was all about. I don't really know of anyone else who that happens to..
Thank you so much for posting this Kati! I have a brother who has severe OCD and I don't know how to talk to him about it.
Hi Kati,
Very interesting video! I actually had a class about both OCD and tic disorders not too long ago. As a therapist, there are more options than just helping the client accept their tics. There are actually two behavioral interventions to help get rid of your tics, habit reversal (HR) and exposure and response prevention (ER). Both interventions focus on breaking the association between the bodily urge and performing the tic. I remember one of the interventions (or maybe both) did this by coming up with a movement that will make doing the tic impossible. By breaking the association, the tics will fade. The intervention is supposed to be really effective, especially if you don't have that many tics. (You work through them one by one.)
Neuropathways are super maliable. Knowing that is 98% of the battle.
Side note: That braid is like 50x thicker than most braids. Wow, gorgeous
Very interesting video thnx
Wow, the size of that braid is straight off Disney's Jasmin character!
Thank you so much for posting this!! I was diagnosed with TS and OCD as a child, and was always incredibly self conscious which only made my anxiety worse. I also tried to hold my tics in in public and that made my life hell as they would be 10x worse when I got home. Through the years my tics have calmed down, but still only a handle of people know about it. If this is something you live with I urge you to not be ashamed of it. I wish I had just owned it from the beginning. I believe I wouldn't have nearly as much anxiety as I do now if I had been confident with myself.
great video. I've had ocd explained to me before. but I forgot.
I'll remember this time.
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oh damn, i just realized i have compulsions really bad now. its okay. its relieving to know what i go through. i sometimes think if i dont do something then something bad will happen. then i feel closure if i do the good thing. anxiety then goes away
I was hoping you would talk about tourettic OCD. The video was still informative though.
My eyes are aching from my eye tics. I’m so tired of it.
Tics feel like the itch on the bottom of your foot while driving. It just doesn't go away and drives you crazy until you do something about it.
Hey Kati ,
I have been going to therapy this whole past year and yesterday was my last day and because I knew it would be my last day I asked my therapist what I can do for the future since Im someone that struggles with self harm and suicide he said great tips but I wanna know more tips I can that I can do any recommendations? For someone thats out of therapy for now.
Ps Love you videos❤️
Hi Kati, I know this question isn't really related to the video, but it would mean so much if you could answer it! I'm under 18 and live in California and my parents recently decided that I should see a psychologist for some issues I've been having (feeling really down, being anxious in social situations, picking at the skin on my fingers until it bleeds). I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I've heard that before you can even go to a psychologist or anything for an evaluation, you have to have a physical and a blood test first. I know those things are needed for a diagnosis to rule out any medical problems, but what would come first? I also have a really bad fear of needles; even thinking about them makes me dizzy and I don't think I can get over that by myself. I'd need some type of help for that before I could ever even think of getting a blood test, but apparently that comes before everything else? Sorry this is long but I'm really scared for the future because if I don't get help for the issues I have soon then they're gonna get so much worse.
A disorder is a cluster of symptoms, health issues and abnormalities. Whereas I'm pretty sure a disease is more like One Singular specific issue
Thank you for this. I still dont know which of the two my 12 year old son has though. He has certain repeated moves and phrases that he likes to say often.eg."may be" before every sentence. My question is: if he does not bring it up as an issue [like you suggested: talk to someone you trust..etc.] (but he might still be bothered by it), do I open the subject or does that embarrass him?
Hi Kati! Can I ask 2 unrelated questions please - 1 How come there is so much statistics involved in studying psychology? 2 - Can yo do more videos on how to cope with fear of terrorism and rationalising things to avoid living and changing behaviour out of fear? Thanks!!
Ironically, fear of terrorism could be relieved by looking at statistics like ppl afraid to fly but not be in cars. It could also just make you afraid of cars. Petspective and mindful meditation. Also I'm into radical acceptance now. Accepting some scary things is life is hard but once you do you can be more relaxed and safer at the same time. Check out the book The Gift of Fear.
I have OCD. I get frequent tics where I scrunch my face up, pull my hair, tap excessively without knowing and a lot of other stuff, most of it is to do with hitting myself or others. I get horrid intrusive thoughts and it triggers my tics evem more. Also is it normal for other people to trigger my tics and stimming? I have a friend with ADHD and OCD and when he's stimming or having tics it sets off mine.
Is there medication, or merely therapy, to rid a person of their tics?
My friend's now 10 --pure, has had a tic for at least 3-4 years. This little girl's tic consists of a facial grimace. Apparently her friend's accept it as a part of her, but I worry about when she is older.
Anyway, thank you on whether medication/couseling might help.
Amy Harvey There is medicine for it, but it makes you really depressed.
I recently learnt that OCD is actually categorised in Obsessive Compulsive and Other disorders in the dsm 5 now. And just like they were saying there is less impulse control with tourettes, there is also less activity in those areas for OCD. I'm pretty sure the difference in that is OCD has more imbalance with serotonin rather than Dopamine. I don't know if anyone else is the same but once i was diagnosed i became obsessed with learning about my OCD and why my brain does what it does.
I could be wrong but i also learnt that it is neurological to a degree, differing to a lot of anxiety disorders. I'm still unsure but it may classify as a Neurodivergence.
@@lyss5244 Yeah, Tourette's is actually categorized as a neurodevelopmental Disorder. To be honest there are a lot of disorders that we could group up together in OC & Related disorders Section and the Disruptive Behavior, Impulse-Control, and Conduct Disorders, because a lot of that stuff is related. OC & Related Disorders contains OCD, Body Dysmorphic Disorder Related Disorder, Hoarding Disorders, and Body Focused Repetitive Behavior Disorders, but clearly BFRB is also an impulse control disorder, as are tic disorders. When I think about all the disorders that are related to OCD, and impulse control, and we put them all together, that section of the DSM would be too long. Regardless, I want that to happen in the DSM-6.
Also The DSM-5 is already outdated, we now use the DSM-5-TR since May 2022, that doesn't matter though, because the DSM-5-TR is a revision, and they didn't resection the whole DSM for a revision.
I’m not clinically diagnosed with anything other than ADD and depression but lately I’ve been getting these things that keep happening they are almost like verbal and physical hitting myself tics. I’ve been hitting myself a lot for no reason and I’ve been making random noises with my mouth like making a bubble popping sound or toung clicking, I’ve also been having these head twitches and knuckle cracking? Should I go to the doctor to see if they think it’s anything?
you should have interviewed jamie grace! that would've been great publicity for her and she's educated on both subjects (she has both)
I dont know who jamie is, but I would say Ines is well educated on tourette's and OCD as she has both, and on top of that she does fantastic work talking about science and mental health on youtube. so I'm glad she was featured -great choice Kati!!
I am Someone yeah... true I guess, she's a good TH-camr tho
Hello, Kati. How can someone deal with school ending and summer beginning until school starts again, manifesting itself through depression, anxiety, etc? Thank you.
But what if it happens all of a sudden without obsessive thoughts? My teacher would say random things abruptly in complete sentences but he doesn't have the urge to talk, he just say those random sentences without knowing why
Hey Kati! I am 14 years old and I know for a fact that I want to go into mental health when I get older (specifically to be a mental health technician in an impatient facility). My friends know this and one friend in particular comes to me a lot whenever she struggling really bad. One part of me wants to really help her because it's good practice and I feel like I'm somewhat capable but at the same time I haven't gone to college yet or taken a professional psychology class. Should I keep trying to help her or should I just tell her that she needs to see a therapist?
You can show your friend support without replacing the professional they might need! For example, if your friend is feeling anxious you can give them tips on how to stop an anxiety attack, but don't try to cure them of their anxiety disorder all on your own! You can be a HUGE help to your friend but it is always important not to act as a doctor if you aren't one! :-)
I definitely agree with "don't try to cure them of their anxiety disorder all on your own"
I'd like to add, too, that professional counselors have their own boundaries that they establish with their clients/patients. There are plenty of ways that you can support your friends -- without becoming an informal counselor for them. Establishing respectful boundaries is super important!
You could help them compile resources (therapists, websites, coping strategies), listen (within your own comfort and self-care limits), and just do your best to be a typical friend to them - hanging out, listening to music, playing video games, etc.
Being a positive force to the people around you can occur in a multitude of ways.
How are you doing these days love? 💞
Is there any better information out there regarding sensorimotor OCD? my doctors pretty much stopped at bipolar 2 and left other issues secondary to that as symptoms. I've had sensorimotor symptoms since I was little when I'd walk back and forth in circles trying to get the "right" step because the pads of my toes or fingers sometimes don't "feel right". I still deal with it but I've mostly figured out rubbing my toes in my shoes or repetitively rubbing my fingertips together or against something until I'm satisfied. Honestly, nobody really talks about the multiple types of OCD and thinks it's all about numbers, repetition, or cleanliness.
love your videos Kati. Please do look through your email received on 29-05-2017. A quick question: If there's no motivation to get out of depression and there's no chance to go see a doctor/therapist/etc. , what to do? #KatiFAQ
I never understood why some people have difficulties telling ocd and tourettes apart. They are completely different disorders and the core issues have almost nothing in common.
I've only learnt about Tourettes some years ago from a person who also has OCD, but I had forgotten about that part. So I had this completely warped idea that Tourettes by itself was causing the living hell that he was experiencing, with so much time being wasted on showering 6 times in a row every time and things like that. Thank you for making this video explaining the difference, it was really revelatory for me.
I have a severe case of ocd and I've have many people ask me if i have tourettes because my ocd mimics tourettes tics and it wasn't until i discussed it with my psychiatrist this year that she told me there is such thing as ocd tics and i find it so interesting and strange
I have Tourette's and have not been diagnosed with OCD (I never talked to a therapist about it), but I have always experienced some OCD symptoms alongside my tics. It just never occurred to me that this might be a separate disorder. The best I can describe it is having "mental tics". There are certain urges I feel, and some of them happen to manifest as movements or vocalizations and others as thoughts (and sometimes actions following from those thoughts).
As for the reinforcement or getting worse when you do it, that can also happen with my tics. As long as I do them subconsciously there is always a short feeling of relief until the next tic appears seemingly out of nowhere, but when I think about them, they tend to get worse. It's like I don't feel relieved after a tic because I can already feel the next one coming when I focus on it, and the urge is also stronger when I am aware of it.
Can you make a video showing the relation of childhood tourettes and adult bipolar?
Yeah, I have the Tourette Syndrome Triad, Autism, and started having manic episodes in my tween years. I'm guessing the relationship between the two is actually about the relationship between ADHD and bipolar. People with ADHD are much more likely to develop Bipolar Disorder, at about a 20% likelihood. Bipolar people also have about a 20% likelihood of having ADHD.
I have Both OCD and Tourettes Syndrome its a bloody Nightmare
Very interesting topic. I've always wondered. Katy you never guest me 😭 jk, you're awesome. Buh bye :*
I've got both of them, what the hell should I do?? I take SSRI's it's gotten better over the years but it's still really disturbing.
Could you have both? I do have OCD, but i don’t know if I have Tourette. I have 2 physical tics and 1 vocal for over 4 years.
Just Stella yes you can have both
I used to draw.. but now i cant.. because of my tics.. what do i do??
Lmao that sucks
Want some help with uhhhhhh...... Your ocd
I was diagnosed with OCD, but I only have the compulsive part mostly, I haven't had the obsessive component in a few years. But like.. I have many physical ticks, and vocal ticks come and go every few months so.. do I have turrets as well?
But with turrets, it's from too much dopamine ? Well.. I also have anxiety and depression so, I guess not ? Idk. I still have the "just right " feeling that comes from doing the compulsions
I'm really suspecting I have a mild case of tourettes. Starting in my early teen years till now at 26 I jerk my entire body and neck when it's cold, now I also hit myself involuntarily when that happens. I randomly involuntarily clap and grunt, or just grunt. Since I was small I roll my eyes a lot especially when I'm thinking and I do a lot of facial grimacing. Sometimes when I'm out and talking to someone and I see something, say a flower. And I'll try to talk and all that comes out is me repeating flower or whatever it is I'm looking at until I get frustrated, stop and try again. There's much more but the only reason I'm not sure is because I'm already diagnosed with Autism, Bipolar 1, OCD, PTSD and ADHD and I'm not sure if my tics are just a result of autism or something else. They've gotten much worse and much more frequent/complex as I've gotten older and my little sister who has most of my same diagnoses as me recently told me that she's been having similar tics so I'm curious if it really might be tourettes. It's worth bringing up to my psychiatrist I guess but since it doesn't hinder my life in any way, besides a little awkward explaining when I tic in front of people, I'm not sure if I should.
Hi. I'm Ariel. I got my legs and yeah the prince blah blah blah but also I decided to be an advocate for others.
I have tourette's. cool video.
I actually have alot of both and it sucks 🙁
I can’t decide if I have OCD or Tourette’s but I always rub my thumb pad against my other finger nails. I mainly only do thus with my dominant hand. And people always stare at my hands when I do that. Like they all think I’m crazy but it’s a subconscious thing I don’t realize I’m doing until someone stares at me doing it.
I’ll have a tic, then my OCD will force me to do it multiple times or else I’ll get very anxious
How can I bring up my ocd tics to my new therapist
Kati, as always, love your videos. Thank you for shining a light on mental health.
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I have ocd and Apd fasd adhd add odd Tourette’s speech and writing problems stuffger impulsive disorder anxiety and spd and dyslexia and more
I have an ocd
I think i have both
if you have one, the other one is much more likely just because of the presence of the other one.
I have been diagnosed with OCD since kindergarten but I was diagnosed with Tourette’s last year my dad doesn’t think I have Tourette’s because it was more recent thing and now I’ve been wondering are these just anxiety things or do I really have to read so now I’m like oh OK I have been having for more than a year and my doctor has diagnosed me with that so I’m not sure. Sorry if it’s weird I use text to speech
ADHD, OCD, and Tourette's are literally caused by the same genes. Tell him that. I have all three, and most of the medications my psychiatrist's are actually used for both ADHD and OCD, outside of the context of tourette's, and they really work for tourette's.
my mom has slight tourettes now i dont know when she got it but its around her eye it always randomly has a tick i guess you can say it is a small one but it used to not happen to her
some days it is better then others though and i thought at first it might of had to do with her not getting enough sleep or something but that doesnt seem to be the case since its now always there
thx for this awesomely ha bisky vid i have OCD its a slight form of it but 100% OCD and its more obvious some days then others (my OCD does stem from autism but its still there and it was probably at its worse when i was in high school)
What if you have both, plus bipolar, adhd and body dysmorphic disorder? And hardcore drug addictions? I just want to die already :(
I cannot get my eyes off your hair. Its so rich and thick
People are treated with mouth gourd or retainers
This was an extremely interesting video. I've been trying to get to the bottom of my tics and why I do them (OCD? Tourrette's?). They're all generally things that I'm able to hide, such as blinking, moving my thumb a certain way, moving my torso a certain way (I'm able to do this pretty subtly), flexing my calf or thighs certain ways, and a strange quiet throat whistle, probably some more. I've been diagnosed with OCD on two separate occasions, but something about OCD never really sat right with me so I got a referral to a shitty neurologist who just brushed me off and mocked me for thinking it could be Tourrette's. He went on and on about how people with Tourrette's are really obvious and he hadn't seen any tics since I entered the office.
Well for one thing, that's because I've been channeling the urge to tic into my toes and calf, which are behind the desk and out of your view. Dickhead.
Also, isn't it possible for tics to be pretty hideable? I may not have full-blown "FUCK!!! SHIT-HEAD!!!" Tourrette's, but I heard it's possible to have a pretty mild case, or is this wrong? I have memories of having tics ever since elementary school age...
Do you think OCD and Tourette's are actually just different versions of the same problem in the brain? I'd think Tourette's is basically a much more severe form of OCD where the obsession and compulsion are A LOT stronger and come simultaneously. I wouldn't know because I don't have either disorder, but that's just the way I imagine it based on what I've heard.
Maybe by being a "stronger" version of OCD like you say, Tourette's is stronger because it's a more physicalized version of the mental processes associated with OCD. Very interesting. I'm actually the one who suggested this video so it's so cool that Katie actually make it! I think I might write my senior thesis on this haha!
70% of all people who have TS also have OCD. I have both. They are not the same, nor do they feel the same.
@@NextgenTraveler91 It's actually 60-70% for ADHD, and 30-40% for OCD. I can see that you have them backwards. Anyway all three disorders are caused by the same genes, and I have them all, while both of my parents have just one.
I get really wierd with washing my hands, as in I'm sorta a germaphobe but pretty much only hands and arms
Also I do some wierd stuff with my face
I have OCD not tourettes
I don't know why it's kinda like a habit at this point but one I can't get out of it
When your tics are caused by OCD.😑
OCD can't cause tics. If you tics, you either have a tic disorder, potentially the one that goes away called Provisional Tic Disorder, one that lasts a long time but is restricted to only motor or only vocal tics called Chronic Tic Disorder, or FNSD, or they're not tics and you have a different movement disorder, but doctors don't always care to diagnose both when they are mild, since they are so comorbid. - From someone with both.
I've heard people say this before. There is literally no reason why someone shouldn't diagnose you with both. However, with personal experience I can tell you that sometimes I use my tics to fight off an intrusive thought. If you can think of an intrusive thought that causes it, that's a compulsion.
what about tourettic ocd though ?
It's called tic-related OCD in the DSM-5-TR and DSM-5, and its not as distinct of a concept as people realize. My OCD is literally no different than anyone else's. It's changed in presentation again and again throughout my life, apparently I have to be on medication, along with persistently trying to do therapy, because once I defeat an obsession, a new one just forms, and then that one just rules my life. I used to be on a medication that reduced my OCD symptoms to zero. I wasn't diagnosed yet, but it came back when they switched medications. I was self-diagnosed (for 7 years before my recent diagnosis) I HEAR EVERYONE TALK ABOUT IT ON REDDIT, BUT NO. There are also people who have literal obsessions about having coprolalia, or doing embarassing things. It's a form of OCD you can see on the Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale. I feel like a person with OCD can be afraid of anything. fear of being a kleptomaniac is also on the Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale. It's also common to have both kleptomania and OCD, (at least in people who have kleptomania since kleptomania is rare)
In the DSM-5-TR, information provided about tic-related OCD is limited to:
- the fact 30% of people with OCD will have a tic disorder.
- the fact it occurs mostly in men with onset of OCD in childhood
- a difference in patterns of familial transmission than those without tics.
- a different pattern of comorbidity than those without tics
WAIT A MINUTE. It actually does say several times throughout the entire text on OCD that comorbid OCD with a tic disorder is often associated with different themes of OCD symptoms than others. Not a single time does it describe the types of themes that are more common in tic-related OCD. I'll have to get back to you after some research.
so the themes I am finding that are related to OCD, are definitely all things that I have dealth with.
- HARM OCD is common (violent aggressive thoughts)
- symmetry and exactness (which is what my mom has, and is the original way that my OCD presented when I developed it.)
- tapping, touching, and rubbing compulsions are also common in tic-related OCD. which I have done to my family response to obsessions that my either me or the family member I was touching would become posessed by demons if I didn't touch them, Weird, because I've never believed in demons, but most of the things I have to do because of OCD, are because of thoughts I know are definitely not true anyway. My current issue is Thought Withdrawal OCD, so definitely not actually happening, but it'll never stop if I don't give in. I do actually get through my day much better if I give into compulsions, because the "but what if it's actually true and god inserted these thoughts into your brain to warn you never goes away, if I don't. The amount of hours I spend doing obsessions is directly correlated to medication. Knowing some strategies to manage OCD with psychotherapy helps, but it doesn't take more than three hours off each day, which still leaves with 12 hours of my day dedicated to struggling with symptoms.
To me it seems as though TS is more functional in the muscles than ocd people with TS physically can't stop it whereas with ocd it's physically possible to stop doing such urges just hard since it's not muscle related.
I was diagnosed with tourettes at 4 and OCD at 5/6 they go hand in hand
Does she really have that much hair??
Aren't they two completely different issues? One being obsessive and hungry for details of unnecessary things such as myself, whereas the other one gives ticks and makes somebody angry?