@@RedBeardsGarage hey boss, I bought my wife a honda metropolitan a few months ago, and it only goes up to ~40mph... I was wondering if something more bad ass than that honda 50cc engine could go into to make it have more pep and top speed looking for like 60-70mph
This video is the easiest to see & best demonstration engine upgrade build video I have ever seen on YT. Comprehensive and not confusing, every step detail described perfectly. Red Beard, you are the MAN. Outstanding video & stellar job. The result sounds BEAST!! ✊🏼
Love your smooth step by step walk thru and all the tips on each step. If we only had this when I was a kid, there is no telling how much havoc it would have created.
We are all still kids at heart but with adult money, these engines are cheap, abit of rhs and a welder and you could zap up a frame and have abit of fun getting the rest together, then send it 👍🏻
I’m probably not going get any closer to building a Ghost than maybe buying something @ Harbor Freight. But I watched the video from end to end. And WATCHED IT ALL! Thank you.
I could literally build a jet engine from scratch if you made a tutorial on it! By far my favorite person to watch build small engines everything you do in your videos is perfect!
I started watching your videos 2 years ago im now a small engine lead mechanic thank you for all info im about build methanol predator for my go kart got me addicted to Honda clones
Put a 265 for short track. 355 for drag. Cute the deck the block. Polish the head chamber. Cut the holes where the push rods go in the block so the oil will run better. Put nidalee roller bearings on the cam. Vent the block from the side cover, and where the governor delete is put a vent tube that goes up and around the frame, so the oil won't escape. The oil will push about 3 or 4 inches out so it's not getting blown around the crank case. People will call me crazy but it works. Lighten the crank but make sure it stays equal as you cut it down. It will let you get more rpm. I was building them getting 12 13 thousand rpm. There's more little tricks I figured out but to long to tell. Get a custom intake built that swirls like a gun riffling. Put a 28mm number 7 jet
Yeah I’ll take one please. That engine is an absolute beast. Thought the side cover was gonna come off. Never seen a 212 shoot flames through a muffler
I was wondering if that wasn't because he didn't lube that area well.Please let me know as I always used 'gear lube'inside the spring area,and greased the 'tabs'and crank shaft.
@@bryduhbikeguy always put it together bone dry. Any lube attracts dust and dirt then it gets stuck. I suppose If it was for a pressure washer that’s always used in a minimally dusty environment it’d be fine but In a gokart it will be a regular issue.
Now your speaking my language. I use to race years ago in the flathead outlaw methanol class. And when I switched back to gas it was so boggy feeling compared to that quick fast response of the methanol motor.i had to keep the pull start off the engine cover the high quick RPMs would break the spring and the cord would just shoot out the cover.
I hear you on the loose fitting muffler, I had to cut a shim from a soda can to fit between the GPS clamp (which is too big) and the muffler so I could tighten it down enough to stay put...seems to be working so far
@@rambo40201 the hose clamp that GPS uses on the mini muffler only goes so small...the problem is the pipe they use for the headers is smaller than the clamp will tighten down too...and if you crank any harder on the clamp screw you only succeed in stripping the clamp
I use a shackle style clamp for my muffler, you can get them in lots of sizes at autozone or online. The heavy duty clamp cranks down a lot harder than any hose clamp could but it adds a bit of weight and doesn’t look as good as the stock clamp.
I'm a car guy, but with such tight spaces, you might consider checking the index of that spark plug to make sure the bottom electrode doesn't face the center of the combustion chamber.
Typically, a AR3910X plug is used in these small engines which cannot really be indexed, but I agree there is an advantage ever so slightly, to indexing the plug.😁
i work as a go kart mechanic on a fleet of rental karts. im gonna be honest, after watching this ive realized im not very good at building engines. thanks for the knowledge!
Hey man I have a lot of respect for you for being honest about it unlike a lot of people, let that drive you to be a little bit better everyday and learn at least one thing new everyday, keep turning those wrenches 🔧 buddy
That's what cracks and breaks those clear flywheel covers is all that vibration, this engine you can see he has a hell of a lot of vibration, just look at the pull start handle and how the muffler is vibrating!
That’s what I keep thinking as someone who has a 224 sitting in a box. I have been contemplating picking up a ghost or another 224 but so far I’ve come across 2 people with a ghost that have owned the 224 and they have both said the ghost seems more rev happy. But I’m like some of the others here who think if you’re building the entire engine anyways, why not just go with the 224!
@@RandyPrater870 well with the 224 having a bigger stroke, you have to deal with clearancing a lot of things, including grinding away at the cam. Plus having a bigger stroke gives high rpms more of a chance to break things.
I would like to see what you can come up with using the Briggs and Stratton engines. All of my self built Mini Bikes and Go Carts had B&S engines. There is After Market Hi Performance Parts, Exhaust systems ,Cams, Flywheels, Hotter ignition systems and plugs. A standard 5 HP B&S with a little tinkering a full 12 HP can be had. No need of a jackshaft direct drive from the clutch to the rear axle.
Do you need to rebalance the reciprocating assembly ? Any extra vibration after the build ? Mine screams but it vibrates worse than my Harleys ever did .
Did you check your ring gap? It seems with HD build why does everyone runs the stock crank shaft? Being a cast piece it would seem to be high priority to replace with forged crank shaft.
@@RedBeardsGarage I broken a stock crank and rod on a governed stock engine. Probably only turning 3500 rpm. Just imagine what carnage would have been turning 9k lol. I really in joy what you all been doing. Keep up with awesome work 🙂
i hope you welded that muffler on , the cap will only stay if you put a back - off nut on it to keep single nut from spinning off and put a lock washer between them , some say no , i have never had one back off and dam near couldnt get a bunch of them loosened up when needed without stripping bolt , some of threads .
Notice the new heads is in-line and the original has a hemi look to it. I wonder if some welding in a couple areas and some machining would produce more power, on the factory head.
Is that flywheel methanol specific? It does not look like it would move nearly as much air as the stock fan. Not an issue with methanol, but could be an issue on a high compression gasoline engine.
Seems like a ton of vibration, I wonder how much of that could be mitigated by balancing the flywheel or the Piston, rod, and crankshaft? Also, what is the expected power output of this motor as configured?
ohh the same in the philippines we also use methanol for a race of 460cc up engine but we use gasoline carb and convert it to methanol carb we also use the same parts you use but in phillipines we change the size of bore and stroke we make them more highier
I’m curious, if all you are using of the original engine is the casing and crank, why you started with the ghost instead of the regular hemi? Considering the ghost is double the price.
HF has notched itself into a unique slot for tool stores. Rather than having a 20% chance of getting a good tool that will last, it's now ~50% with a percentage that's equally randomized by item and type. They raised quality, but at the same time, 'quality' is such a variable word in terms of HF tooling that it's not linear. How to make the memes... 🤷♂
Take that piston drill relief holes on top. It will boost the competition. You will need a starter box as you will break your fingers lol. Take the cam and clean it up, get all the ruff edges from in side the block cam and crank. You can take a hemi crank so you can get a little more stroke. I have diynoed 26 27 28 hp from a 212. But you can call me crazy I don't care.
Can u do a pedetor 420 or just explain to me what I would need like the piston crank rockers head flywheel sparkplug and carburetor and remove Governor coil
this is such a great video i was just at harbor freight a week ago stopped and looked at the small engines and was wondering if any of the what you just showed me could be done now i know i need to mount one on a honda rukkus lol
This is my first time watching a video from this channel and I already subscribed I absolutely love the content. the list of the tool your using at a givin time is amazing keep up the good work. Also what are all the clear tubing for on top of the engine I know its for crankcase pressure but I dont understand why there is so many tubes
No cyl hone, and if I’m not mistaken that block looked cracked where the head gasket sits, at the top, and below the valve train slot. Also, might just be me but my OCD wouldn’t let me just glob the assembly lube on one side and just pop it in without wiping it all around the surface.
One can only hope that harbor freight realizes the phenomenon they have going with these predator engines and they don’t ruin it
😂 if thay do ima need two blocks of every model they sell before it goes out
If they didn't, they wouldn't make a ghost racing engine. These aren't going no where
@@ghost-carnage8964 ca-p
EPA and carb ruins everything
@@TH-camcensoredmyusernamethese are lawnmower engines. Unless u live in ca you’re fine
With the way you list your tool usage on screen, this may be the most comprehensive and helpful small engine build on TH-cam. Thank you and well done!
Thank you very much!
@@RedBeardsGarage hey what’s the price to get all of the Pieces
@@RedBeardsGaragewhich jets did you use the 180/15 or did you change out for the 250/25
@@RedBeardsGarage how much u charge for one of those
@@RedBeardsGarage hey boss, I bought my wife a honda metropolitan a few months ago, and it only goes up to ~40mph... I was wondering if something more bad ass than that honda 50cc engine could go into to make it have more pep and top speed looking for like 60-70mph
Dude - wish all DIY videos were this evenly paced, informative with great camera angles. Nailed it brother!
This video is the easiest to see & best demonstration engine upgrade build video I have ever seen on YT. Comprehensive and not confusing, every step detail described perfectly.
Red Beard, you are the MAN.
Outstanding video & stellar job.
The result sounds BEAST!!
✊🏼
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. I try and give out any info I have learned by failing.
Love your smooth step by step walk thru and all the tips on each step. If we only had this when I was a kid, there is no telling how much havoc it would have created.
We are all still kids at heart but with adult money, these engines are cheap, abit of rhs and a welder and you could zap up a frame and have abit of fun getting the rest together, then send it 👍🏻
a whole mess of broken bones and broken fences lmao
Probably wouldn’t have made it to the age I am now lol
Kid? These are big boy toys!
I’m probably not going get any closer to building a Ghost than maybe buying something @ Harbor Freight. But I watched the video from end to end. And WATCHED IT ALL! Thank you.
By far one of the best looking engines I’ve ever seen built, I’d give my pinky finger for a motor like that
Definitely the cleanest tutorial I've seen. Well done.
I could literally build a jet engine from scratch if you made a tutorial on it! By far my favorite person to watch build small engines everything you do in your videos is perfect!
I love my 212 built but LOVE my 224 none built for everyday usage! Your videos are A1 as they say in the Mini Bike Community!
I started watching your videos 2 years ago im now a small engine lead mechanic thank you for all info im about build methanol predator for my go kart got me addicted to Honda clones
Put a 265 for short track. 355 for drag. Cute the deck the block. Polish the head chamber. Cut the holes where the push rods go in the block so the oil will run better. Put nidalee roller bearings on the cam. Vent the block from the side cover, and where the governor delete is put a vent tube that goes up and around the frame, so the oil won't escape. The oil will push about 3 or 4 inches out so it's not getting blown around the crank case. People will call me crazy but it works. Lighten the crank but make sure it stays equal as you cut it down. It will let you get more rpm. I was building them getting 12 13 thousand rpm. There's more little tricks I figured out but to long to tell. Get a custom intake built that swirls like a gun riffling. Put a 28mm number 7 jet
Do you have a Facebook
12.000 - 13.000 rpm max??? Amazing!!! Video?
@@jquanlake2203 lol is me
Dang your really into this stuff , 13000 is insane
Yeah I’ll take one please. That engine is an absolute beast. Thought the side cover was gonna come off. Never seen a 212 shoot flames through a muffler
let me tell you😂 we shoot flames over here and we don’t even have the ghost
That pull start handle is having a conniption fit.
I was wondering if that wasn't because he didn't lube that area well.Please let me know as I always used 'gear lube'inside the spring area,and greased the 'tabs'and crank shaft.
would be cool if it could have electric start too, do they make decent performance flywheels for electric start though?
My guess is you didn’t watch till the end because that was nothing compared to the muffler
@@bryduhbikeguy always put it together bone dry. Any lube attracts dust and dirt then it gets stuck. I suppose If it was for a pressure washer that’s always used in a minimally dusty environment it’d be fine but In a gokart it will be a regular issue.
It's because they didn't take corresponding weight off the crankshaft when they lightened the rod/piston
Look at the pull cord handle waggin back and forth like it's so happy to see ya!
Now your speaking my language. I use to race years ago in the flathead outlaw methanol class. And when I switched back to gas it was so boggy feeling compared to that quick fast response of the methanol motor.i had to keep the pull start off the engine cover the high quick RPMs would break the spring and the cord would just shoot out the cover.
I swear these builds are so satisfying ✨
That thing is a freaking beast, I need it. It sounds INSANE
Would you please do a detailed video on tuning your carburetors?
STILL, the most watchable and informative vids on the web. THANKS Red
I hear you on the loose fitting muffler, I had to cut a shim from a soda can to fit between the GPS clamp (which is too big) and the muffler so I could tighten it down enough to stay put...seems to be working so far
Orrrrrrr make it tighter 🫢
@@rambo40201 the hose clamp that GPS uses on the mini muffler only goes so small...the problem is the pipe they use for the headers is smaller than the clamp will tighten down too...and if you crank any harder on the clamp screw you only succeed in stripping the clamp
I use a shackle style clamp for my muffler, you can get them in lots of sizes at autozone or online. The heavy duty clamp cranks down a lot harder than any hose clamp could but it adds a bit of weight and doesn’t look as good as the stock clamp.
Looks like you pintched your hand pretty good from the look of that blood blister 😲 appreciate u sacrificeing your hands to show us these videos 👍
Great build! I can't wait to see it propel a vehicle down the road!
This is the most helpful and entertaining video I’ve seen in awhile! Your earned my follow!
This engine is speeding sitting still, very inspiring. Seriously the coolest ghost build on TH-cam.
I've driven stock 212s to 600cc racing motors on flat carts, but never have I ever seen a pull start handle dance around like that before
once again I tip my hat off to you Redbeard another spectacular engine build🎉
Best/cleanest build I’ve seen yet. The sounds at the end, 😤
I don't know anything about motors but you made it really easy to listen to
I wish something like this was available 40 years ago when I took small engine repair in high school
Holy moly that’s one nasty as engine build brother ! Thanks for the video Red beard 🧔♂️
That motor is beautiful, love that clear side cover! Are you gonna dyno it?
I'm a car guy, but with such tight spaces, you might consider checking the index of that spark plug to make sure the bottom electrode doesn't face the center of the combustion chamber.
We have to index our plugs in our asphalt Sprint car because the tolerances are so tight we can smash a plug closed
Typically, a AR3910X plug is used in these small engines which cannot really be indexed, but I agree there is an advantage ever so slightly, to indexing the plug.😁
Great video!.. best 212 ghost engine Build I've seen keep it up!
I always enjoy watching your engine builds.I’ve watched you build so many engines that now I’m really good at it my self.
That's awesome!
Not even 1min in and I can already appreciate the video. Subscribed.
Cool video. I like the engine builds and this did not dissapoint. Catch ya next time.
WTf TH-cam unsubscribe me love your videos, man keep it up
i work as a go kart mechanic on a fleet of rental karts. im gonna be honest, after watching this ive realized im not very good at building engines. thanks for the knowledge!
Hey man I have a lot of respect for you for being honest about it unlike a lot of people, let that drive you to be a little bit better everyday and learn at least one thing new everyday, keep turning those wrenches 🔧 buddy
That's what cracks and breaks those clear flywheel covers is all that vibration, this engine you can see he has a hell of a lot of vibration, just look at the pull start handle and how the muffler is vibrating!
Mr red You are a genius you are my hero I love my mini bikes and you are very educational and I appreciate your videos thank you
Awsome build as usual 🤙.You should start building your own stage 5 heads and make a video on that.Just a suggestion 😁
Man thats a mean little devil! Good job!
Dude this video is so beautifully explained it's insane. Great job brother!
hey red, i had the same problem with my muffler. i ended up torquing the bolt to just below yield (bent, but not broken) and it hasn’t come off yet!
Holy shit, this is probably the best small engine how to video I've come across
Best engine build tutorial 👌
Seems the new predator 224 would be a better base to start with being cheaper, and everything is getting replaced.
For sure! Stronger block, more cc
He's a HF shill. Everything he does is marketing for them. Of course he'd use their newest engine.
What kinda race engine is it if ya gotta replace shit. To handle more power. Race motor should have a billet rod and flywheel I mean cmon
That’s what I keep thinking as someone who has a 224 sitting in a box. I have been contemplating picking up a ghost or another 224 but so far I’ve come across 2 people with a ghost that have owned the 224 and they have both said the ghost seems more rev happy. But I’m like some of the others here who think if you’re building the entire engine anyways, why not just go with the 224!
@@RandyPrater870 well with the 224 having a bigger stroke, you have to deal with clearancing a lot of things, including grinding away at the cam. Plus having a bigger stroke gives high rpms more of a chance to break things.
How much horsepower and torque does the modified engine produce?
Since the ghost stage 2 kit hasn’t been in stock for a while I’m going to go ahead and buy this. I hope everything fits right
Thanks, crystal clear, never left in the dark- Lefty
Done right. I can appreciate that. Good video. That little thing sounds nuts. And on the next video
How high did the compression ratio end up being on this engine?
i bet they got no idea.
Salty much bud.
14-1.
@@edu20por5 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@jacobpoucher 420 %14 = 30 cc.
I would like to see what you can come up with using the Briggs and Stratton engines.
All of my self built Mini Bikes and Go Carts had B&S engines.
There is After Market Hi Performance Parts, Exhaust systems ,Cams, Flywheels, Hotter ignition systems and plugs.
A standard 5 HP B&S with a little tinkering a full 12 HP can be had.
No need of a jackshaft direct drive from the clutch to the rear axle.
You would’ve been one hell of a shop teacher.
Do you need to rebalance the reciprocating assembly ? Any extra vibration after the build ? Mine screams but it vibrates worse than my Harleys ever did .
These vid’s are awesome so much detail and accuracy every time
Most seem to use quite a bit more coil gap than you I noticed.
Did you check your ring gap? It seems with HD build why does everyone runs the stock crank shaft? Being a cast piece it would seem to be high priority to replace with forged crank shaft.
The crank is an expensive purchase. We will be doing a build soon with a billet crank.
@@RedBeardsGarage I broken a stock crank and rod on a governed stock engine. Probably only turning 3500 rpm. Just imagine what carnage would have been turning 9k lol. I really in joy what you all been doing. Keep up with awesome work 🙂
Again a great vid. Man that motor on a bicycle would just kill me! LOL
Upon completion is there a run break in time you’d recommend before really thrashing it ???
Wondering what kind of horse power torque curve you’re looking at for this bad boy ? On 110 race gas and ethanol ?
Tjis was such a great video. Thank for for making everything as clear as possible.
Very cool. What type of HP and shaft torque does this build produce?
That engine in the mini bike is going to be a blast!
The signature red beard...
This engine build its very powerfull i love it.
Those stage 5 head ports can be widened way more tho, even to the manifold for serious air flow
i hope you welded that muffler on , the cap will only stay if you put a back - off nut on it to keep single nut from spinning off and put a lock washer between them , some say no , i have never had one back off and dam near couldnt get a bunch of them loosened up when needed without stripping bolt , some of threads .
Notice the new heads is in-line and the original has a hemi look to it. I wonder if some welding in a couple areas and some machining would produce more power, on the factory head.
Is that flywheel methanol specific? It does not look like it would move nearly as much air as the stock fan. Not an issue with methanol, but could be an issue on a high compression gasoline engine.
Seems like a ton of vibration, I wonder how much of that could be mitigated by balancing the flywheel or the Piston, rod, and crankshaft? Also, what is the expected power output of this motor as configured?
Methanol makes everything so much better. I wanna see one of these on nitromethane 💥
ohh the same in the philippines we also use methanol for a race of 460cc up engine but we use gasoline carb and convert it to methanol carb we also use the same parts you use but in phillipines we change the size of bore and stroke we make them more highier
I've been binge watching everything
I’m curious, if all you are using of the original engine is the casing and crank, why you started with the ghost instead of the regular hemi? Considering the ghost is double the price.
My favorite part of every engine build you you hand flapping while lapping the flywheel
Man I love watching your videos I leaning a lot from you thanks 🙏
HF has notched itself into a unique slot for tool stores. Rather than having a 20% chance of getting a good tool that will last, it's now ~50% with a percentage that's equally randomized by item and type. They raised quality, but at the same time, 'quality' is such a variable word in terms of HF tooling that it's not linear. How to make the memes... 🤷♂
Take that piston drill relief holes on top. It will boost the competition. You will need a starter box as you will break your fingers lol. Take the cam and clean it up, get all the ruff edges from in side the block cam and crank. You can take a hemi crank so you can get a little more stroke. I have diynoed 26 27 28 hp from a 212. But you can call me crazy I don't care.
you could install some rubber mounts to help absorb the vibrations
i wish i had the money to do a build like this for my race kart it revs so fast i think u should build it on a shift box so u can have high gear
Can u do a pedetor 420 or just explain to me what I would need like the piston crank rockers head flywheel sparkplug and carburetor and remove Governor coil
I been running .060 airgap on the ARC flywheels
When you run it on 'Meth" is it the flywheel,or the cam that loses it's teeth first?
Lol good one.
@@RedBeardsGarage LoL,Thankx.Great tutorial too,btw.TY for sharing your knowledge with us so we can have fun too.
this is such a great video i was just at harbor freight a week ago stopped and looked at the small engines and was wondering if any of the what you just showed me could be done now i know i need to mount one on a honda rukkus lol
Woohoo 🎉🌟😃 I'm just about to watch the vid on the big screen TV 🌟 allsome stuff
The oil gap on the crank and piston I only tighten down those bolts once and I replace I don’t use twice
How much power will it make on methanol? Gas?
I've been waiting for this thank you RED.
What is the whole point in the hoses that lead from the valve cover to the crank case???
This tutorial is top notch 🤩👍
This is my first time watching a video from this channel and I already subscribed I absolutely love the content. the list of the tool your using at a givin time is amazing keep up the good work. Also what are all the clear tubing for on top of the engine I know its for crankcase pressure but I dont understand why there is so many tubes
How much more power does it make compared to stock?
Red Beard. I always enjoy the content. Thanks for the videos keep Them coming
Thanks for the video you are very awesome my friend, Jack of all trades.
About halfway through and did I miss you checking the ring end gap ??
Very well done and very informative!
Question: Before you do a build on a brand new engine, do you break it in first?
I wanna see this engine on a vintage race kart frame on an asphalt track!
No cyl hone, and if I’m not mistaken that block looked cracked where the head gasket sits, at the top, and below the valve train slot. Also, might just be me but my OCD wouldn’t let me just glob the assembly lube on one side and just pop it in without wiping it all around the surface.
And the head itself maybe ?