News reports East coast bracing itself, let's just hope it not only stays offshore, but blows itself out. Got fingers crossed for you. Oh, yes if evacuation ordered get out, vids can wait.
This thing is a BEAST, but it's not for most people (because of the expense). But for the 5% of you that'll ball out on an engine like this, our hats are off to you👌 Plus, to get this much power in a package this small is pretty incredible.
I think you guys are missing the point.. if they wanted instant high HP numbers, yes, an LS swap would happen... I think it's more of a 'let's see what we can make out of this with our own fabrication and learn new skills doing it" kind of thing. Thats why I enjoy this channel.
Zoron Stillwater yep, that’s why it’s the most popular engine swap in the industry, right ? Guess what, prior to the ls, the go to motor was the smallblock chevy. But let me guess, you want some turbocharged 16 valve 4 holer to dump into your ma’s accord don’t you. Typical. Go enjoy your soy shake.
Who says you cant? That’s something different the internet hasn’t seen. Everyone has seen these predators and tilotson 212s built thousands of times and motorcycle motors in go karts. No one has seen a LS in a little go kart
I'm still learning small engines and 4 stroke theory, I gotta say that whiteboard session actually gave me a mental breakthrough on how this stuff works. Even in a small engine, changing ratios of separate operations can make a huge difference. It's so fascinating.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind maybe a tach, dyno requires a computer, it'd be too big, but a small, dedicated predator dyno would be a cool project in its self!! with a sniffer for afr and exhaust collector, fan, etc.. one thing i want to see is universal, single cylinder fuel injection and solid state ignition.
A group of my friends and I had a race to see who could take these apart and put them together while blindfolded (teams of two with only one person blindfolded and the other guy in charge of hardwares) took about an hour. They’re great engines to buy if you want to learn how engines work
I always use the same oil I'm using for the break in and never had a problem,plus I don't want that stuff floating around my moter ,but I'm also picky so.....great build guys.
I know this is a old video but this is one of my favorite videos from you guys! I love y’all’s engine building videos. I’ve literally watched this video at least 30 times. You guys got me into building about 3 years ago and I love it. I gotta say I like ridding but for me the building is the best part. I love seeing how much you can squeeze outta these little engines. I hope I get to meet y’all the next time y’all are in Texas. I live like 15 min from go power sports and I’m in there all the time. Thanks guys keep up the awesome videos guys!!
The compression ratio might depend on the length of the connecting rod and the height of the piston. I bet the stock piston don't go flush. That would be worth checking out of curiosity. Thanks for the video guys. I always look forward and click on first
I've just watched taladaga nights and the only thing I could think about was how much Ricky Bobby ( will Ferrell ) reminds me of Isaac 🤣🤣. No disrespect I love you guys
@@mrpoopybutthole6314 so that makes you even more outrageous. All that money you could save and build a bad ass race car that you could track and drive on the street
Zac Hutson that’s the Direct drive class, my KZ shifter karts engine was $5,000. With rebuilds every race meeting. Yes it’s incredibly expensive but it’s also incredibly competitive and you have to have currant equipment tuned perfectly to win. Unfortunately the prices are set at what they are, I think theyre too high but what are we to do make our own engine?
Dont forget to say that the gaps on the rings must be opposite to each other. Make a cut where the small shaft goes to let the oil in.Put some gas in the oil to remove the viscosity.
That's a freaking Beast of an engine💪 I wish I could get that much power out of my little scooter motor already did a BBK to it though and a race cam and race ignition larger carb bigger jet couple other things and a lot of CVT transmission tuning this thing is twice as fast accelerating as a stock 50cc now! And hits about 15mph higher top speed then stock I still can get a big valve large port head and I'm still running the stock exhaust on top of that🛵💨
@@otm646 mine is a 4 stroke a header and high flow muffler will help a bit only if I get the big valve big port head it's not like adding a good expansion pipe on a 2 stroke, but since I did not upgrade the head I'm running the stock small combustion chamber for the smaller piston bore and it actually increases the compression a bunch and I have to run the highest octane fuel I can right now or it detonates pretty bad.
@@CarsandCameras well you're not wrong XD hey guess what im 14 years old and I just did a stage 3 hemi on my minibike and the thing hits 60mph now! id love to hear your opinion or any suggestions
@@ryan14r95 about $700 in parts for the engine and $100 for the engine itself, i could have got a pit bike engine or something but i wanted good low end torque. it is still running strong to this day, (maybe too strong) i’ve had my fun so i may take the parts back out or sell the engine for $700 or something and then go with stage 1 on all my engines.
Brilliant. Go outside to clean so none the chemicals get on the garage floor. Time for a Safety Clean sponsorship. And the groove piston ring goes up? At ignition down stroke the ring catches and expands for maximum seal. Changing the rocker pivot point changes the stroke travel. Little longer travel means that little longer you get for intake and exhaust valve open time. More fuel in more boom. More exhaust out more room for boom. Lot less headache method over bigger valves modification. Hearing loss/damage is like radiation exposure. Not like scrape or cut that happens and heals. Hearing loss/damage stacks, and at the rate you guys are working it. About and 10-15 years the constant buzzing hiss will start. For those that have it bad and are being driven crazy by the sound of a train passing by 24/7. Operation for induced deftness only cure. FYI the sound that comes from compressed air being shot out a gun to clean away dust is the most damaging. Great episode would be getting a Db meter and seeing what every noise maker in the shop is doing. War story. Was stripping my boots with rubbing alcohol while sitting on a bench. Elbowed the bottle and it fell and I tried to catch it. Wiff miss and bottle lands flat on it's bottom geyser firing nasty straight up. Alone and no water source around while blind scare was enough. Caught the military at the end of work safety and environmental awareness. No Uncle Sam, cigarette butts do not make good hearing protection.
I built an engine basically identical to this one for $700 before the carb. And that's not too bad especially if you enjoy tinkering. 20-25hp isn't bad either. Actually more, I have oversized valves with 60 lb valve springs. I live near VIR I'll try and beat what ever lap time they did.
@daniel bean I don't care. I am sure they figured the retail or discounted value that a customer would have to pay to replicate this build. If it personally didn't cost them a penny, so what. They make the videos for their fans and subscribers. Why make snide remarks about what they are doing? Watch and enjoy or don't watch. It is your choice. If you keep complaining I will send you some cheese to go along with your whine.
The "waffle" ring is called an expander & the ridge cut into the top ring is called a ridge dodger ring for used bored with a lip on them.Use some USA made Total Seal rings gappless set with low radial tension oil ring like the 5.0 Fox body Mustang.Youll go faster .Trev New Zealand
I bet the piston is a flat top because the combustion chamber in the head got smaller for a higher total compression ratio, keep high octane fuel in that piece or it's going to ping
I did the same thing with the head studs on a ford 302 with aluminum heads and that was going supercharged. I did the same thing you did. I pulled out one bolt at a time and installed the stud to full torque. motor has been running for 17 years
@@tebibyte2357 With ME installing it? YOU BET! (~_^)-b Hell! I can install a 500 CID Cadillac engine in a Honda! You might find the SEATING has to be changed a wee bit...but I can make it FIT... [HOP HOP HOP!] /)/) ( 'ˬ') @(>_ )-b \) \)
That thing sounds bad to the bone!! What are your thoughts on the tillotson fuel injection? Have you used one and do you have a video? Be safe with the weather and God bless you both
I built one. Absolutely rips. About 60 on a pretty standard cart. Did no head work. Buy a wiseco piston, my cheap flat top exploded and had to restart w a new block.
Sorry to hear about your CT70 breakdown. I'm looking forward to seeing the video on that build! And...I finally got my C&C swag on its way! Pretty Excited! Lol! Keep it up and TRY NOT To change what you're doing on the channel! It's great just as it is. Low Tech, innovative, informative, Inspiring, funny, fun! Its great you aren't afraid to make mistakes on camera!
Spend $1500 on a motorcycle engine and you get a transmission and a lot more than 20hp plus actual reliably and longevity. The 99 dollar predator is a bargain but trying to turn it into a high performance power plant does not make sense.
roller rockers are for long travel of the rocker. The edge will slide across the spring cap when articulating that far. It's not for reduced friction to get power. it's for reduced friction for engine wear.
When looking at different length push rods and actually testing with a tech tool on the head on the lift and duration of the cam whether it be a stock cam or not. Changing the length of the push rod can and usually will change your lift to the valve as well as duration.. just a helpful tip. Actually checking the lift to valve with say 4 different length pushrods will tell you if you need shorter then stock or longer then stock to get where you need to be. Kinda hard for me to explain without showing or testing for yourself..
einar they can barely jet a four stroke bike motor to the point it makes any power and you think they’d be capable of not only jetting a two stroke sled motor properly...not to mention, if “go powersports” does not sell it, they seem incapable of clutching and helix setups on cvt drivetrains.
i'll personally pass on 2-strokes.. especially with that lumpy a 212 getting nasty at 10k rpm.. only thing i'd see about doing is a pumped oil system on that crank/conrod, maybe even go fuel-injection and see if that can really turn that engine to 11 on the power/size ratio..
The brass fittings you added the the valve cover need to be pointing up so oil can't drain down them when splashed Into them, you will end up losing lots of oil
nstrack1017 agreed. Two of those “breathers” are going to be completely useless as soon as oil gets into the line. These guys have good intentions, but lack of knowledge. Or the builds are just too fast and not thought out well.
I don’t know what you guys are doing, but y’all need to get your crap together. This is the second time that you guys have ordered parts for the wrong engine and it is very irritating and makes y’all look stupid, so I’d appreciate it if you ordered the right parts for the right engine, thank you
If my own experience is any guide, it is very likely that they did order the correct Tillotson kit and the screw up lies with GPS. C&C are probably just taking the blame to cover up for their sponsor.
$1500 for 20 something hp? Not trying to hate but damn that is an absolutely horrible deal. I understand they are into these specific type of engines etc but wow I just don't get how this is a good deal for anyone. So many more options with way more power at a comparable size and weight for way less money.
Hope ya'll are gonna be safe if this hurricane hits! I'm preparing for it myself, myrtle beach can't exactly hold all that much rain, haha. Love the channel, good luck and stay safe guys.
I can’t wait to do that build on a go kart. I’m trying to build a go kart for ice fishing to pull sleds onto the ice and have fun rippin around the ice when the fishing is slow. I’m trying to decide if I wanna put tracks and skis or just stud some tires. I’m not sure what state you guys are in but it’d be cool to see you guys rip around some frozen lakes.
It's called the scraper ring Ike. Fun fact, 351 Clevelands come with 1.72:1 rockers from the factory. I still can't imagine spending $1500 on a glorified generator motor... for that you can buy a wrecked Polaris or motorcycle and make a LOT more power.
Guys, stay safe over the next few days. Isaac, hope the property doesn't flood again.
Thank you, we're going to need it.
News reports East coast bracing itself, let's just hope it not only stays offshore, but blows itself out. Got fingers crossed for you. Oh, yes if evacuation ordered get out, vids can wait.
I hope it doesn’t too man. Take care
This thing is a BEAST, but it's not for most people (because of the expense). But for the 5% of you that'll ball out on an engine like this, our hats are off to you👌 Plus, to get this much power in a package this small is pretty incredible.
that's thing is gonna scream when I saw 10,00 I thought yall had bought a rotary 😂
bwahaha 24mm carb u guys are actually incredibly not smart
You are right, spending $1500 on a $200 engine is equivalent too gold plating a turd. Can't wait to see what this gold plated turd does.
Even though it will beat itself to pieces...
For $1500 I'd rather buy a dirt bike or atv motor and put it into something. You wouldn't be paying that much if you weren't sponsored by GPS.
For the price of this engine build you could LS swap a go-cart.
No doubt. Not a fair comparison though. No one is cross shopping a 212cc engine with a 350ci engine.
or buy a 636 cc street bike engine from kawasaki and have 150 hp 14k rpm engine
I think you guys are missing the point.. if they wanted instant high HP numbers, yes, an LS swap would happen... I think it's more of a 'let's see what we can make out of this with our own fabrication and learn new skills doing it" kind of thing. Thats why I enjoy this channel.
Zoron Stillwater yep, that’s why it’s the most popular engine swap in the industry, right ? Guess what, prior to the ls, the go to motor was the smallblock chevy. But let me guess, you want some turbocharged 16 valve 4 holer to dump into your ma’s accord don’t you. Typical. Go enjoy your soy shake.
Who says you cant? That’s something different the internet hasn’t seen. Everyone has seen these predators and tilotson 212s built thousands of times and motorcycle motors in go karts. No one has seen a LS in a little go kart
You guys need to buy some land a build a track and shop with recording studio.
I think ike already got land usable for that
We're working on it
@@CarsandCameras hi
Basically John needs to move out.
@@CarsandCameras awesome
I'm still learning small engines and 4 stroke theory, I gotta say that whiteboard session actually gave me a mental breakthrough on how this stuff works. Even in a small engine, changing ratios of separate operations can make a huge difference. It's so fascinating.
Y'all should build a plate to bolt new motors to something you can stand on when you startn them Idk just a thought
I was just going to comment the same idea. A plate that has mounting holes for most of their engines. Making the work easier
Maybe a future product? Build in pwer, chargable, retractable jumpers with a grounded base, yup. Doable.
@@imagineaworld Then build a mini dyno on to it.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind maybe a tach, dyno requires a computer, it'd be too big, but a small, dedicated predator dyno would be a cool project in its self!! with a sniffer for afr and exhaust collector, fan, etc.. one thing i want to see is universal, single cylinder fuel injection and solid state ignition.
@@imagineaworld Just looking at o2 and hc. I imagine nox would be through the roof on those engines being air cooled.
A group of my friends and I had a race to see who could take these apart and put them together while blindfolded (teams of two with only one person blindfolded and the other guy in charge of hardwares) took about an hour. They’re great engines to buy if you want to learn how engines work
Ssgddvdddd
livin south of the mason dixon line and spending their days tuning small engines... is this video feed from heaven ?
The oil ring you called a waffle ring is called the expander
Being a Virginia native, you have my blessing. Rescue those karts!
You guys should be using assembly lube for a motor this expensive.
We did
I always use the same oil I'm using for the break in and never had a problem,plus I don't want that stuff floating around my moter ,but I'm also picky so.....great build guys.
Cinematicly, this is your best vid yet. Kudos to the videographer/editor. Great content too.
Drag rail just hanging on the ceiling of Issac's garage. Dang.
I know this is a old video but this is one of my favorite videos from you guys! I love y’all’s engine building videos. I’ve literally watched this video at least 30 times. You guys got me into building about 3 years ago and I love it. I gotta say I like ridding but for me the building is the best part. I love seeing how much you can squeeze outta these little engines. I hope I get to meet y’all the next time y’all are in Texas. I live like 15 min from go power sports and I’m in there all the time. Thanks guys keep up the awesome videos guys!!
The compression ratio might depend on the length of the connecting rod and the height of the piston. I bet the stock piston don't go flush. That would be worth checking out of curiosity. Thanks for the video guys. I always look forward and click on first
Mine was zero deck at the outer Dia. with dish piston and one valve relief cut for exshast valve. stock.
You guys kill me man. When the police were called, the look on Ike's face was priceless😂
I hope Isaac has moved vehicles he doesn't want to get flooded, that hurricane Dorian looks like a bad time
Love the fact you guys go into details on putting together for us visual learners
Good to see you guys doing stuff you've never done before and manage to hit the dart approximately near the center. Best of luck!!
I love that you guys aren't all talk and show. I enjoy what you guys are making on the channel.
I've just watched taladaga nights and the only thing I could think about was how much Ricky Bobby ( will Ferrell ) reminds me of Isaac 🤣🤣. No disrespect I love you guys
And great camera work on this one as well!
Loving this third person video. Top notch production guys! Keep it up!
that guy looks and sounds exactly what i would expect the expert in tuning lawnmower engines looks like! love the work and obvs the style! send it!
Y’all be safe on the east coast with Mother Nature hitting
Not mother nature Just nature
theres something wrong with this hurricane its unique compared to past storms. almost like its man made
Kart Way Of Life Thats right!! There is no “Mother Earth.” God created everything.
Since You start with saying you started with the wrong kit instantly disinterested me too the success of your build
It would make my day to see that engine run on E85
Loved the music choice for this video. Engine building with Ike is so damn relaxing. Great video
The new camera or editing whatever you are doing different is good. Kinda awkward but good
Wow Seen a 65 or 6 fastback in the background!! I drag raced a 65 Shelby clone for 20 years!!👍🏼👨🏼🔧
Great stuff, but I cant believe yall have not built a universal engine stand for test runs. just a thought lol
That trip sounds about as close to roadkill as you can come with karting. Can't wait for the episode!
$1500 for a stock bore, stroke and head engine...ummm No Ill pass
Bahaha I spend $3200 on a fresh 100cc two stroke for karting.
@@mrpoopybutthole6314 so that makes you even more outrageous. All that money you could save and build a bad ass race car that you could track and drive on the street
Zac Hutson that’s the Direct drive class, my KZ shifter karts engine was $5,000. With rebuilds every race meeting. Yes it’s incredibly expensive but it’s also incredibly competitive and you have to have currant equipment tuned perfectly to win. Unfortunately the prices are set at what they are, I think theyre too high but what are we to do make our own engine?
@False Flag yup, hell race you in he's $3000 2000 dodge Dakota. Probably the coolest car you can get for 3 grand besides a old ferd Mustang
Volvo 240 400$, ls junkjard 200$
I have a motorcycle mechanics diploma and this is bringing it all back the teaching i mean.
No way another predator build I'm so suprised
What else would they do a build on? A shitty Honda GX? Lmfao
You guys are Living the dream to build Carts and cars
1:1 vs 1:1.3 A 1:1.3 ratio means 1 inch of lift of cam produced 1.3 inches of lift at the valve.
King Motorsport that’s what he said Incase if you misunderstood
Great back ground tune today guys
It’s like as if Thomas Rhett and Will Ferrell became friends and decided to Bill go karts
Anyone who is watching for directions on how to install a stage 4 kit, you are so lucky/ hard working!
Lets see some of that 300zx in the back
I'd love to see that thing mounted to a longtail mud motor kit. Come on guys please do this!
Insane keep up the good work thanks for the video and stay safe in the next couple of days
Dont forget to say that the gaps on the rings must be opposite to each other. Make a cut where the small shaft goes to let the oil in.Put some gas in the oil to remove the viscosity.
That's a freaking Beast of an engine💪 I wish I could get that much power out of my little scooter motor already did a BBK to it though and a race cam and race ignition larger carb bigger jet couple other things and a lot of CVT transmission tuning this thing is twice as fast accelerating as a stock 50cc now! And hits about 15mph higher top speed then stock I still can get a big valve large port head and I'm still running the stock exhaust on top of that🛵💨
Nitromethane is always an option. A pipe will be a massive improvement.
@@otm646 mine is a 4 stroke a header and high flow muffler will help a bit only if I get the big valve big port head it's not like adding a good expansion pipe on a 2 stroke, but since I did not upgrade the head I'm running the stock small combustion chamber for the smaller piston bore and it actually increases the compression a bunch and I have to run the highest octane fuel I can right now or it detonates pretty bad.
LOL Ike trying to get his thoughts out about how the ratio rockers work. I have the same problem buddy!
if you look up jerry rig in the dictionary there will be a link to this video.
Haha, could be worse.
@@CarsandCameras well you're not wrong XD hey guess what im 14 years old and I just did a stage 3 hemi on my minibike and the thing hits 60mph now! id love to hear your opinion or any suggestions
@@WildfoxFabrication Wear a helmet.
Down to a Science let me ask how much you spent? You should’ve went with a dirt track racecar.
@@ryan14r95 about $700 in parts for the engine and $100 for the engine itself, i could have got a pit bike engine or something but i wanted good low end torque. it is still running strong to this day, (maybe too strong) i’ve had my fun so i may take the parts back out or sell the engine for $700 or something and then go with stage 1 on all my engines.
Brilliant. Go outside to clean so none the chemicals get on the garage floor. Time for a Safety Clean sponsorship. And the groove piston ring goes up? At ignition down stroke the ring catches and expands for maximum seal. Changing the rocker pivot point changes the stroke travel. Little longer travel means that little longer you get for intake and exhaust valve open time. More fuel in more boom. More exhaust out more room for boom. Lot less headache method over bigger valves modification. Hearing loss/damage is like radiation exposure. Not like scrape or cut that happens and heals. Hearing loss/damage stacks, and at the rate you guys are working it. About and 10-15 years the constant buzzing hiss will start. For those that have it bad and are being driven crazy by the sound of a train passing by 24/7. Operation for induced deftness only cure. FYI the sound that comes from compressed air being shot out a gun to clean away dust is the most damaging. Great episode would be getting a Db meter and seeing what every noise maker in the shop is doing.
War story. Was stripping my boots with rubbing alcohol while sitting on a bench. Elbowed the bottle and it fell and I tried to catch it. Wiff miss and bottle lands flat on it's bottom geyser firing nasty straight up. Alone and no water source around while blind scare was enough. Caught the military at the end of work safety and environmental awareness. No Uncle Sam, cigarette butts do not make good hearing protection.
I honestly understood exactly what Ike said lmao. Cheers!
“The blue, the black, the clear and the brass... its lookin good.” I couldnt have said it better, this one is pretty! Lol!
I was about to give you a pice of my mind for putting 1,500 in a 212 but then I saw the blue cover so it’s all good
Love the channel, can you explain the science behind the crankcase breather hoses? That was the reason I clicked.
$1500 engine build. You could have bought a good running Chevy 350 for less than that....lol
I built an engine basically identical to this one for $700 before the carb. And that's not too bad especially if you enjoy tinkering. 20-25hp isn't bad either.
Actually more, I have oversized valves with 60 lb valve springs. I live near VIR I'll try and beat what ever lap time they did.
@daniel bean I don't care. I am sure they figured the retail or discounted value that a customer would have to pay to replicate this build. If it personally didn't cost them a penny, so what. They make the videos for their fans and subscribers. Why make snide remarks about what they are doing? Watch and enjoy or don't watch. It is your choice. If you keep complaining I will send you some cheese to go along with your whine.
@@WyFoster how much did you pay for your aluminum flywheel, Wyatt?
@@johntingle455 burn lol. I was thinking what you said.
Sure you can, but that's an apples and oranges comparison
The "waffle" ring is called an expander & the ridge cut into the top ring is called a ridge dodger ring for used bored with a lip on them.Use some USA made Total Seal rings gappless set with low radial tension oil ring like the 5.0 Fox body Mustang.Youll go faster .Trev New Zealand
I bet the piston is a flat top because the combustion chamber in the head got smaller for a higher total compression ratio, keep high octane fuel in that piece or it's going to ping
I did the same thing with the head studs on a ford 302 with aluminum heads and that was going supercharged. I did the same thing you did. I pulled out one bolt at a time and installed the stud to full torque. motor has been running for 17 years
For $1500 I can fully rebuild a 350 chevy V-8 after purchasing it from the salvage yard!
but can it fit in my Honda?
@@tebibyte2357 With ME installing it? YOU BET! (~_^)-b
Hell! I can install a 500 CID Cadillac engine in a Honda!
You might find the SEATING has to be changed a wee bit...but I can make it FIT...
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Good job fellas! That tilly sounds meeaaaaan.
But yall be careful this week with the hurricane
I would love to see y’all experiment with smaller engines! Things like predator 170cc 5.5 or a 80cc
Yes like a the smaller 98cc predators
@@conner5611 I missed those. I thought their small engine was a 79cc 4 stroke, making about 3 hp. I wonder if anyone makes a stage 4 kit for them.
@@johntingle455 never mind I was thinking of a lifan 98cc they used those on the motovox mbx10
@@conner5611 ok
@@johntingle455 this is the most parts iv seen on them th-cam.com/video/Mt6YppmDwjA/w-d-xo.html
That thing sounds bad to the bone!! What are your thoughts on the tillotson fuel injection? Have you used one and do you have a video? Be safe with the weather and God bless you both
That really made me think i could have a go at building an engine myself.....Hmmm!
Lol it's not a car engine. My 12yr old little girl built her own stage 3
Todd Baker I did stage 4 with head work and I’m also 12.
I built one. Absolutely rips. About 60 on a pretty standard cart. Did no head work. Buy a wiseco piston, my cheap flat top exploded and had to restart w a new block.
Sorry to hear about your CT70 breakdown.
I'm looking forward to seeing the video on that build! And...I finally got my C&C swag on its way! Pretty Excited!
Lol! Keep it up and TRY NOT To change what you're doing on the channel!
It's great just as it is.
Low Tech, innovative, informative, Inspiring, funny, fun! Its great you aren't afraid to make mistakes on camera!
Spend $1500 on a motorcycle engine and you get a transmission and a lot more than 20hp plus actual reliably and longevity. The 99 dollar predator is a bargain but trying to turn it into a high performance power plant does not make sense.
roller rockers are for long travel of the rocker. The edge will slide across the spring cap when articulating that far. It's not for reduced friction to get power. it's for reduced friction for engine wear.
what is your cameraman's name is it john, i only expect 1% of people to get that reference.
You guys rock...been watching yall for a while and love it. Love it enough I bought a go kart myself
This 212 is almost the same price as my first car 😂
When looking at different length push rods and actually testing with a tech tool on the head on the lift and duration of the cam whether it be a stock cam or not. Changing the length of the push rod can and usually will change your lift to the valve as well as duration.. just a helpful tip. Actually checking the lift to valve with say 4 different length pushrods will tell you if you need shorter then stock or longer then stock to get where you need to be. Kinda hard for me to explain without showing or testing for yourself..
Why not buy a 125cc power valve motorcycle engine and small upgrade and 40+le ?
Or a twostroke snowmobile engine with 160hp
This engine is probably made for a certain class in kart racing they got the parts comped for advertising gopowersports.com
einar they can barely jet a four stroke bike motor to the point it makes any power and you think they’d be capable of not only jetting a two stroke sled motor properly...not to mention, if “go powersports” does not sell it, they seem incapable of clutching and helix setups on cvt drivetrains.
i'll personally pass on 2-strokes.. especially with that lumpy a 212 getting nasty at 10k rpm.. only thing i'd see about doing is a pumped oil system on that crank/conrod, maybe even go fuel-injection and see if that can really turn that engine to 11 on the power/size ratio..
I appreciate the motor build videos. Helps when looking at building new engines for our race karts
Why would you spend 1500 dollars on a 20 HP predator, when you can get a 24 HP v-twin for less, and also have a more awesome sound
Because you can. Also because it’s small and light.
Weight
cody kamminga hell, for
@@ROTAXD its pronounced hersper
After all your prior builds and talking lag it makes me smile to hear the words flat slide.
How long would this last in a lawnmower? 😂🤣😂
The brass fittings you added the the valve cover need to be pointing up so oil can't drain down them when splashed Into them, you will end up losing lots of oil
nstrack1017 agreed. Two of those “breathers” are going to be completely useless as soon as oil gets into the line. These guys have good intentions, but lack of knowledge. Or the builds are just too fast and not thought out well.
I don’t know what you guys are doing, but y’all need to get your crap together. This is the second time that you guys have ordered parts for the wrong engine and it is very irritating and makes y’all look stupid, so I’d appreciate it if you ordered the right parts for the right engine, thank you
If my own experience is any guide, it is very likely that they did order the correct Tillotson kit and the screw up lies with GPS. C&C are probably just taking the blame to cover up for their sponsor.
I'm liking the background music you guys used. It matched the video perfect. That engine looks slick!!!
$1500 for 20 something hp? Not trying to hate but damn that is an absolutely horrible deal. I understand they are into these specific type of engines etc but wow I just don't get how this is a good deal for anyone. So many more options with way more power at a comparable size and weight for way less money.
People who race these karts and mini bikes at high levels spend WAY more than $1,500 on an engine. Some spend $1,500 on just the crank.
@@CarsandCameras been subscribed for probably 2 years now. Love your videos. Again, don't want to hate. Just sayin', holy cow. Lol :)
You guys gotta do an all out big port gx390 build. High compression, big cam, billet bottom end, full port and valve work, the works
Man that little motor is a beast that's for sure
Cool build! Can't wait to hear it at 10k!
The piston ring, gaps you want them at 120° away from each other, so it allows for proper compression. 👍🏻 all in all good job love your guys videos
Hope ya'll are gonna be safe if this hurricane hits! I'm preparing for it myself, myrtle beach can't exactly hold all that much rain, haha. Love the channel, good luck and stay safe guys.
Nice job guys can't wait
You guys def need a mini engine dyno! It would take your small engine building and testing to the next level... or possibly the level after that lol
There's nothing like hearing something start for the first time 😮
I can’t believe that you guys have made a vtec predator engine! It sounded like a Honda at 18:50.
That beautiful Z in the back though 😮
Awesome! I live 15 min from VIR. Beautiful place and love driving the carts!!
Can't wait to see the results.
Wow wait a minute you have a z32 you need to give it some love on the channel
2:43 Your Welcome
The "waffle ring" is called an oil control ring. It holds onto oil and the rings on either side of it spread and scrape the oil off the bore.
Nice build. It would be cool if you guys painted up your sheet metal on that engine to make it look even more sweet.
Love the "Double" intro. XD
Keep it up guys, I love watchin you work.
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So funny how far y'all have come in a year
This new video style is amazing! Props to camera man and or Editor!
You guys are doing great. Channel looks great keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing
I can’t wait to do that build on a go kart. I’m trying to build a go kart for ice fishing to pull sleds onto the ice and have fun rippin around the ice when the fishing is slow. I’m trying to decide if I wanna put tracks and skis or just stud some tires. I’m not sure what state you guys are in but it’d be cool to see you guys rip around some frozen lakes.
It's called the scraper ring Ike. Fun fact, 351 Clevelands come with 1.72:1 rockers from the factory.
I still can't imagine spending $1500 on a glorified generator motor... for that you can buy a wrecked Polaris or motorcycle and make a LOT more power.
Holy shit John. I never knew that about rockers. Good explanation. Thanks