Toyota has BROKEN the auto industry // Can anyone catch them?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- #Toyota #honda #lexus #mazda #subaru #acura #hyundai #kia #hybrid #genesis #tesla
Sales numbers for April, 2024 are in. Toyota is outselling all the competition easily. Subaru, Honda, Mazda all looking strong. Hyundai and Kia are beginning to lose traction.
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00:00 - Toyota leaving the field...
08:17 - Honda Sales...Accord decline
13:02 - Mazda slowing
16:42 - Subaru strong
19:09 - Hyundai hanging on
21:05 - Kia slowing
24:20 - Final remarks
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As it turns out spending decades building high quality, reliable, reasonably priced cars is a good combination for sales.
@@naveenthemachineI just bought a new one and I very much disagree. It’s as good as any older Toyota I’ve driven.
@@michaelw6277Naveen is a perennial troll on just about every Toyota video.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c thanks for the heads up!
That's what Hyundai-Kia has been doing. Hyundai-Kia also made them very good looking. So Hyundai-Kia was able to double sales in only 20 years, surpassing Stellantis and American Honda in USA sales.
Toyota prices are no longer reasonable
Not abandoning small cars has given Toyota dibs on a whole lot of customers who are now interested in something larger and more expensive.
Yes, they still sell an A segment car in Europe, the Aygo, below the Yaris. It is a very simple, well build small Toyota. Very fuel efficient, and sells very good. Stellantis abandoned this segment as well as Ford, Fiat. Only Kia and Toyota left..... . With gasprices in the Netherlands up to 9 euro, 10 dollar a gallon, no wonder.
Hybrids and high gas prices made Toyota the King. No one even comes close in terms of reliability except Honda.
Really how? The Carolla is trash at 25 -30k
Only a retard would pay 30k for a corolla
Yeap. N heres abit of numbers:
In 2022, toyota sold 10.5mill units. If u minus North america, europe and china sales of toyota products,,
Ur still left with abit under 6million units. So while it is undeniable that NA is the largest market for toyota, its global market is far bigger. And what kind of toyotas does the global market buy? Hiluxs, compact sedans, econohatches, and apparently $60k minivans😅
@@avdp9095 Ford's last USDM Focus and Fiesta transmissions were so bad Ford had to stop selling small cars in the US.
I love Toyota but toyota dealership salesmen are the worst
I wish we could just buy directly
It's better if we can buy direct because many Toyota and Lexus dealerships have market markups
Agree
ALL dealerships are scuzzy. I went to my Honda dealer for new brake pads and an oil change and it felt like I was in the hood and everyone was talking ebonics. Not a single white person except the general manager.
Their buying can be a headache, but the maintenance service is phenomenal.
They may be true for the majority of them but not in my small town of Russellville, AR. They are the best! 😊👍
Toyota is proof that having a variety of all car body styles is the key
Making cars that don’t break down when you drive them of the lot is key
And quality....they last forever when good maintenance
@@avdp9095so do honda, subaru and mazda.
I wonder how many more Toyotas would be sold if dealers stopped adding $4000-$10,000 on top of the MSRP?
Doesn't matter, Toyota doesn't make them fast enough. I had to wait 9 months for a Corolla TS. Yeah, I ordered one, long wait, but then, no dealer markup, and I got exactly what I wanted.
Dunno if that's a thing in the US though, or you're limited to whatever is available on the lot.
The exact same. Just because one person walked away doesn’t mean everyone did.
I'm noticing that people are gravitating to smaller vehicles since the price of midsize vehicles are outrageous these days. Example Corolla and Civic....enough said.
That’s what happens when midsize prices are on Corolla and civic prices now. Remember civics used to be 30,000 and below
The new base Camry's are a great deal too.
In some places ... Like Japan... Corolla is considered a big enough car to be considered an executive car. The 'real' Corollas nowadays are the Raize, Yaris, Avanza and the Vios.
@@ChrisRobatoI wish they don't cancel the Yaris in the US.
Toyota hybrids absolutely smashed it in Australia in April. Toyota are over 20% of the entire market and Toyota hybrids are now 50% of all Toyota's sales so that's a huge win for their hybrid system.
I was weighing getting a Camry or Highlander and the dealership experience in Vegas SUCKS. So I decided not to do business with them ever again.
Went to Mazda and got a CX 50. Since Toyota Motor Credit underwrites Mazda loans, my previous loan history helped a lot and we got a 3.9% rate along with $4k off MSRP
Toyota cares about their customers, factory workers, and the entire auto industry unlike some EV tech company.
🤣 ev company that is, shall not be named,
Elon do better
Toyota has my support. I'll give Accord a break. I'm getting that new Camry. I don't want any EV.
Elon's done for humanity than some cry babies on the internet, that he probably provides for you .
I'm a Toyota guy but you sound like an idiot trying to say Tesla does not. Elon actually produces something people want I know that's hard for you Hamas lovers but really .
Toyota king 👑
Yes
Wait according to Tesla nerds Toyota going bankrupt. 😂😂😂
They’ve been dead wrong for a long time. Comparing Toyota to tech companies. Every other legacy car company that went heavily into electric cars are regretting it
It is. Toyota's total debt is $240 billion. Last year, it was only $200 billion. Doesn't seem like Toyota is making any money. I think Toyota is selling their products under cost to compete against Hyundai-Kia. Toyota can't keep this up. $300 billion in debt is the end for Toyota, I think.
@@JohnLee-tb3nhDoes this debt contain deferred revenue? Also, how much of the debt is used as loans? Toyota borrowed a lot of debt at rock bottom rates in Japan, then loaned them out at higher rates. It’s similar to how financial institutions operate. But you don’t seem concerned about debt balances for banks.
@@JohnLee-tb3nh lol Toyota making bank off of hybrid vehicles. Customers decide winners and they choose Toyota.
@@JohnLee-tb3nhYou can see how much Toyota made on the income statement and cash flow statement. On the balance sheet you look at retained earnings.
In the past, Toyota emphasized that the EV era would begin in the late 2020s or early 2030s, but it grew gradually. Toyota took over ten years to debut the Hybrid Prius and 20 years to develop the Fuel Cell Mirai. And they're still developing safe, all-weather, dependable battery with a long driving range. Toyota executives repeatedly said, let's listen to what consumers need, want, and desire. Let them decide what type of vehicles they want to invest in. Toyota is traditionally well-known among consumers in Japan for "Toyota sale." & "They're conservative but sell well."
I think the people who were gunna buy a new accord seen the Camry and said yeah no I’ll pass on accord hello Camry 😂
What's happening with the Accord!
- IT IS UNBELIEVABLY UGLY 😂😂😂
According to some...I though they are on the verge of bankcruptcy, really strange. Numbers are confusing!
Saving up this year for my V8 lexus before it gets killed
You think they'll make a V8 in 2025?
@@hirise9419 Absolutely not that;s why I am buying mine by the end of this year.
Toyota to the world: "don't go all in on EV" The world to Toyota: "F-Off! What do you know!"
I used to laugh when I read the Environmental groups were upset that Toyota didn’t embrace the EV worship group. I guess Mr Toyoda was right. EV not ready for prime time
Solid numbers from the Japanese brands. Some models better than others.
With Elon imploding Tesla, hybrids are the way forward.
I heard Tesla is suffering right now, including 10% layoff of its workforce and decrease of sales (including California, and evidence of slashing price). Their build quality is still horrible. There was a video of a cybertruck that is NOT pre-production have a lot of mistakes with the fit and finish.
Acura down 21%
@@MikeForsytheIt’ll bound back up with the refreshed MDX and new models in the pipeline.
@@joecrash1232 There is deep turmoil at Tesla with executives leaving. Elon is moving away from cars and will focus on AI and robotics plus autonomous taxi. He has executed poorly with the “hardcore” approach.
@@mrgurulittle7000 “bouncing back” still will be lower to mid pack in the usa.
Unless other manufacturers make their cars more reliable, Toyota will always remain KING.
Toyota not giving up on sedans and making the best hybrid vehicles is enough to show why they are still running strong. Unlike the other T letter company that keeps declining.
Naveenthekoreanmachine has left the chat
He’s getting ready for a hot date with a goat this evening.
He most certainly has left the chat. Can’t really bash an automaker that just creamed the rest of the auto industry.
More people probably take him serious if he didn't comment on every Toyota or Lexus post...smh
Wow, I sure do miss his negative comments. 🫨
Korean cars suck!
The worse part about toyota are the dealers. I’ve been to 3 different ones and they are all super pushy on extended coverages
*And all they did....* 🤔
Was make cars that actually WORK.
Not going EV and going hybrid is the way to go. Toyota figured it out.
"What if we just made what the customers say they want?"
Toyota and BMW: Worth a shot, let's do it.
Every other car company: Nah, that'll never work.
On one hand I'm sad that Acura sales aren't great, but on the other hand I really love the look and drivetrain of the new Integra so it's pretty good news for me lmaoo
Does anyone know sales figures for the Corolla Cross? I never see too many if them and curious to how they sell? Thankyou
That Accord redesign is a dud. I can’t get over how much better the last gen looks. Instead they got super conservative and built an unrecognizable blob. The new Accord design is worse than the Model 3 design and I don’t like the Model 3 design (though the Highland refresh is a little better). It just looks like a total NPC car.
Honestly? The 9th gen Accord looks better than the 10th and 11th gen.. particularly the facelifted/refreshed one.
Why? I think both gens look good, the new looks simpler which makes it look sleek and good looking.
It's almost like the Accord and Camry have swapped places.
@@tancar2004 What do you mean by that?
Not to mention the Civic is now almost as big as the Accord while sporting a lower price & fun to drive element.
Acura Integra huge drop! That is what happens when you have customers like me who wanted to buy a Type S when first released but only to be met with huge mark ups here in California. They called last month offering my the previlege to purchase one for sticker. But yeah too late!
No one wants a 55k civic. They are sitting.
Wow, Honda is hit and miss. I’m guessing Acura was slept on in this quarter because I think the refreshed MDX and new products would bound back Acura sales. RIP Accord. And I LOVE the Integra.
Toyotas margins for 2023 surprised me, almost doubled Hondas
Toyota actually learned it from tesla..... they are the only major manufacturer that can do almost everything down to even battery in house. Ppl said their electric car is a joke without understanding toyota's battery pack will likely has twice longer in it's life cycle
@@JOSH-ge4oc Toyota's credit rating is A+/A1 from S&P and Moody's. If you dont know what that means then you are just a piece of trash period
Honda's CEOs have been idiots since the 80s and 90s and their push to all EV is f-ing dumb.
@@JOSH-ge4oc since you don't get it, toyota get's loan in asia for 2% rate then loan it out to ppl like you for 7%. have fun only being able to read news in 1 language, not to mention you can't fliter out what's being feed to you by big data/AI
@@sk-un5jq Toyota DID say it was wise to slowly transition, NOT JUMP RIGHT AWAY. They was right about that too.🙈
Really? You’re surprised about the Accord? Just look at that thing.
Not to mention the Civic is almost as big as the Accord while being more practical, more affordable, better looking, and most importantly more fun to drive.
@@AbrahamArthemius But for comfort the Accord is way better. I have a 2016 Civic and my next car will probably get the next gen RAV4 or current CRV or Camry.
I think most people in the market for a Honda or Acura compare it to a Toyota or Lexus. Because of the close similarity in price and design, they go with the Toyota or Lexus for the extra reliability
Great cars from Toyota but the issue lies with the dealers. The pandemic has made the overwhelming majority too accustomed to bending over their customers. It’d be tough to find anything MSRP anymore, at least where I live. The SE is being marked up and filled with garbage options to inflate the OTD to fully loaded XSE levels. They don’t let you refuse them either. And don’t even bother with an XSE, that’s being sold at Lexus prices.
Screw dealerships.
I can proudly say that my April purchase of a Toyota Corolla SE hatchback contributed to Toyota's numbers. I was going to buy a LE, but the dealer couldn't keep them on the lot!
The new Accord is just hideous! Is it any surprise sales are down from the previous model?
I continue to be surprised that people actually spend their money on the Korean products. Don't get me started about General Motors
I will spend my money on Korean before Chinese though because that’s a step further back😂
People always say Hyundai has come a long way and they aren't like what they were a decade ago. The thing is they have been saying the same thing for 2 decades without actually improving quality of their products. Consumers buying into their narrative suffers headaches.
Making faulty products which looks good ( cuz they poached some German designers from BMW ), attracting consumers with a 10 year warranty and scamming them up when it comes to actually claiming the warranty. Don't get me started on their auto combustion problems and recalls for dangerous reasons like auto rolling
no no no how could Naveenkid can absorb this, his greats are down
And Hyundai-Kia his favorite brands are down for the first quarter.😂
@@mrgurulittle7000 He pretty much never care about reliability one bit, and he’s also biased on everything he said. He’s not opened either. I’m actually okay with him liking some cars, but every time he speaks, especially only by his opinions, and that he thinks his opinions are absolutely true and not everyone else opinions, is truly horrific, biased, and no sense of credibility.
@@joecrash1232Yeah, he’s infamous for that now. He’s basically become the village idiot.😂 Sad to even think he had a Camry and still had the steel balls to bash Toyota/Lexus on literally every Kirk/TFL/Alex video. How could anyone be such an oxymoron, is beyond me.
@@joecrash1232He became infamous for being the village idiot.😂
@@mrgurulittle7000 Not only that, he’s immune to hatred, just like The Vegan Teacher: Car edition against meats (Toyota) 😂
How’s the Civic R doing
Toyota all the way ...I've owned Toyotas for many many years , and no ffffffff problems unbelievable
I have to say that new Tacoma price is ridiculously high.
8:46 Kirk, Can you please tell me which site this is ?!
Acura is in trouble along with Infiniti. MDX with touch screen is not going to save them. May be they should copy Lexus and make a Acura Pilot, Acura HRV (ADX) and offer hybrid variants.
@BrianEugeneLee-xq2hy Yeah, paid touch screen is a good selling option and you have to surrender your life to google for it to work.
Acura's problem is no hybrids!
@@sk-un5jq We need to let them know to add hybrid variants. That would increase drastically and help Acura make profits.
I was watching another clip by a well-known veteran, and I mean veteran (50yrs + experience) car expert, and he broke down the concept of sales numbers...........It was really shocking, a real eye-opener!................. I'd never thought about it this way and what he said makes sense...............He said, auto manufacturers build what they sell, first to the dealerships......The dealership then, still, has to sell the car/suv/truck to the consumer.....In the eyes of the FTC, and from a transactional standpoint, every unit sold by the manufacturer to the dealership counts as a SOLD vehicle and is the actual number reflected in monthly, quarterly, annually reports that go out.......The sales figures are not actually the number of units moved out of dealership lots......It's ultimately the dealership's responsibility to keep each unit up to a set standard in order to sell to consumer as new......The most accurate sales figure should be an accumulation of units moved from dealership lots to consumers, based on tracking from dealer's sales, not how many units were purchased by dealers nationwide. Wow. What say you? 😲
Only Mercedes reports wholesale as you are inferring. The rest of these numbers are sold by the dealers. Dealers report to the OEM last day of the month.
@@KirkKreifels Thank you for adding clarity and defensibility of the data. Reputation takes years, decades to build and just seconds to lose. Always learning insider info thanks to your channel. (What's Mercedes hiding? j/k.)
Kirk, Do the Toyota lots in Florida have many cars? Up here in Canada they have very few.
Honda & Subaru "growth" is mirage. They were hit the hardest and bounced back the slowest from covid supply issues. Case-in-point, Honda is still 10%+ down from their pre-covid sales figures.
Yep. We're still trying to find a new normal. High interest rates, less buying power and more expensive cars are complicating things
Thank you. Honda and Acura are in big trouble. Very outdated lineups not really competitive outside the civic and cr-v.
@@MikeForsythe Honda thought they would go from ICE to all EVs and Toyota blew them away. Massive strategic blunder!
since 5 years ago online chad bros been beating toyota endlessly, well now they eat their own words.
You mean THE ELECTRIC VIKING 😂
Toyota always comes out on top - nobody comes close. Tesla will be a footnote in the auto industry in 10 years or less. Toyota will be the first automaker to "successfully" market EVs to the mass market.
Not just EVs, but continue to supply hybrids and enthusiast gas cars like the 86 and Supra, and hydrogen ICE cars on the way.
Happy Days! Love to see it 😀
Honda's new Accord looks like a bar of soap with wheels tbh the rest is a good line up. Acura has a poor portfolio besides MDX and Teggy.
Acura has ZERO hybrids! CRAZY! Lexus has tons of hybrids!
@@sk-un5jq That's actually true lol.
toyota are the EV fanatics favorite target for being cautious on going BEV! careful not to praise them (even rightfully so) cos the EV fanatics would troll your channel haha
No, they actually have a smart strategy for transition. Take the Tesla cultists out of the EV camp and you immediately get rational opinions.
I rented a RAV4 yesterday. The basic 4-cyl is an anemic geezer. When you are trying to pass at 60mph that is a dog. When you are wearing sunglasses, the backup camera screen on the dash is so dim you can't see anything. It's nice and clear BUT it is not bright enough. Inside comfort and room very good for its size. Ride is smooth and stable.
I test drove a Rav4 hybrid, along with Tucson and CR-V hybrids. Interior was cheap feeling compared to the other 2 and the front felt cramped. My head hit the ceiling in the passenger seat. Not impressed with Toyota. In-laws have a highlander that feels BLAH inside. Went with the CR-V. No regrets.
Mid 8 second zero to 60. Seems good enough for me. Faster than most of the class in fact. Depends on what vehicle you're used to driving I suppose.
What’s going on with the accord? Lol really? Just look at it..looks like crap and the engine and power is crap
My 3rd Prius! 2024 blk limited this new car is refined and smooth almost like Lexus ,all wheel drive more power features galore! Everything works 50+ miles per gallon 0 to 60 in 7seconds!
My woke EV loving cousin swore and bet me 100 bucks that Toyota would go bankrupt before 2025 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well give him a call back and tell him he owes you. It’s the year 2024 now so he already LOST THAT BET🙈
Glad to finally see Toyota leaving all brands behind!!! Honda far behind but love to see CRV on the road... Have owned the following:
2016 camry (current) at 105,000 miles
2016 camry (overseas)
2012 camry
2011 corolla
2006 camry
2001 camry
1993 integra GSR
1991 integra LS (started owning from 210,000 miles and sold for $300 more at 247,000 miles)
@BrianEugeneLee-xq2hy i’d wait couple of years from the 2025 model to clear out bugs and hang tight to the 2016
@BrianEugeneLee-xq2hy still the direction the world is going with EV crap, hybrid is much better option for some like us ‘all gas vehicle’ fans
Context, context, context. Mazda was pumping CX-30 and CX-50 sales with 0% financing all month long in April. No such incentive for CX-5. The CX-30 and CX-50 inventories were building and Mazda needs to move them.
Mazda lost the plot being so late to the hybrid game. I would never buy another all ICE car again with gas prices.
I bet Prius is only down because of supply.
Yep
Isn’t the Corolla already on the 5th gen hybrid or is it still 4th gen?
4.5, the electric motors were given a power bump (awd was also added) but its still using the 1.8 engine instead of the 2.0L.
@kirkkreifels to say that GM is best in sales bothers me.
If you exclude fleet sales and only do private buyer sales, does GM still overshadow Toyota?
Fleet sales skew number…just sayin
Nice! Subaru is on rise too 🔥
YUGO probably because they include free super model from their country.
Despite of China's EV car mass imports around the world Toyota is still dominating the world car sales thanks to their reliable HEV, PHEV, Gas and Diesel vehicles.
All of China car brands will never beat the sales of Toyota because many people and china car owners are concerning their customer service, quality and reliability like the Omoda 5 had a broke rear axle due to bad welding, Geely's unreliable cars, BYD fire issues due to poor quality on the batteries and more of other china car brands also had their issues on quality and reliablity.
Yeah, the only thing they got going is some European designs that they were able to snatch up. Sure they look really nice, but then again One can even make crap look like a chocolatey treat from afar. Doesn’t make it a TASTY ONE THOUGH!!🙈 Oh and all the byd fire videos posted, WAY TOO MANY TO MISS!
Acura must innovate or they’ll be left behind and become the next Infiniti. Honda had a good sales month, but with Acura and the Accord being down on the month, it makes it seem as if their demand is cooling. Civic, HR-V, CR-V and Pilot can’t stay on lots!
Acura slump is temporary. Their product line is still very competitive, and they have products coming in the pipeline.
on 4/27 I bought for a great price a Cavalry Blue Camry SE AWD non Hybrid/ non CVT... and I'm very happy!
Maybe Acura should think about hybrids. Will be interesting to see if ADX will help. Car Confections (reviewers) just had the 2nd transmission put in their new Santa Fe.
I didn't know the Kia soul was still in production. I don't remember seeing any on lots in 2021-2022
With the way they're pricing is going. They might just play themselves
Wish Toyota would start making some affordable cars again. The definitely need a new sedan/hatch and a small practical boxy CUV near or under 20k.
Problem with subcompact cars is you have to sell them in volume in order to make money off of them, like 150k-200k units, and in America they just don’t sell well. People would rather just step up to the Corolla. Same thing with Honda when they had the Fit too. The Versa last year sold 24k units but a good portion of them went to rental car companies.
Under $20k in 2024? You're nuts! All their supplier costs, labor, energy, etc are way higher these days too.
Shouldn't you use line graphs to illustrate you "Projections"?
I am a big fan of Toyota and currently own a 2021 Prius Prime which at the time of purchase cost me $10K below MSRP due to Toyota and govt. rebates. Today the same car is going to cost me $10K over MSRP because of dealer greed. That is a $20K price swing. That is insane. This could be the downfall of Toyota. And they better do something about it. My needs have changed and I have been looking at a Tacoma but because of the crazy mark up issue, I am looking at a Frontier as an alternative. I'll probably go with the Nissan something I never thought I'll do.
There are plenty of dealers who sells at MsRP, you do have to wait though.
@@jml9550 MSRP days are long gone, at least for now. I went to my Toyota dealer a few months ago. They hardly had any new cars on the lot. The ones that they offered at MSRP where the "undesirables.'" For instance they had a dark blue, standard shift, Toyota Corolla at MSRP. I guess nobody wants that car so they still had it on the lot and were doing us a favor by asking MSRP for it!!
I was looking at Siennas at the time. They had one LE coming in that was pre-sold. The rest of the incomings were Limited versions at MSRP of $51k plus whatever they were going to add and of course their markup once the car was on the lot. My guess, I was going to look at a minimum $56K, possibly over $60k out the door after taxes. Needless to say, I gave up on the idea of a new Sienna.
I'm not surprised by the sales of the Prius. What's the point of having one when other Toyota cars will now be hybrids too? What more does it have?
One question , when will we see a sienna hybrid plug-in?
Ain’t gonna happy. Those PHEVs goes to Lexus TX.
naveenthemachine hate this news , tbh
My hybrid Sienna is like a chubby Prius - 37mpg and can tote 8 people.
Kirk, How About the Motorcycle 🏍️ Industry....How are they doing Lately😎🤔🇺🇲???
Another day of me checking for news of the Crown Sport Z coming to the US…
Honda needs a more rugged Ridgeline with an updated V-6.Same goes with the Passport.Those will add 100,000 units annually to the bottom line for Honda if they get them right.
As for Acura,I think they need something to compete with the Lexus TX and it's great they're also bringing something to compete with the Lexus UX and other premium compact SUVs.
Exactly. Right now Pilot is crushing because of more rugged look and more off road features. Passport is a great car ( super stable, having great traction and AWD) but front, mild body change without more off road features in Trailsport is not enough to compete with Jeep or Toyota. Most people do soft off roading (hiking dirt roads and such) but having extra off road capabilities would make Passport and Ridgeline fantastic for many customers. RAV4 became super popular when look was changed to mini 4 Runner. People are obsessed with 4Runner due to branding and reliability. If Honda makes good changes in these two models and gets handle on more reliable supply parts it would be dream to own for most 4 Runner potential purchasers. Most of the people are not very familiar with Passport's current platform or how this car drives. Everybody is making 3 rows SUV's now which are replacement for minivans customer base.
Honda will never compete with Toyota on real trucks.
I thought the MDX now competes with the Lexus TX though
@@sk-un5jqThey never tried nor they ever will. More rugged doesn't mean full blown truck. Mostly all former SUV's are not on truck platform anymore because majority of people who purchased them in a past or buying them now, are not looking nor doing full off-roading. There are tons of people doing overlanding in Subarus yet Subarus are not trucks. More rugged look and extra features like they gave Pilot would make Ridgeline and Passport great vehicles for 80% of current Toyota 4 Runner and Tundra people and even in current form they are more comfortable and have better MPG than Toyota 4 Runner or Tundra.
Hmmm...who would have guessed... the four brands killing it: two have doubled down on hybrids and two have some of the more "affordable" vehicles out there... and all four have a decent reputation for reliability.
The Accord is such a nice car and I love the rear seat legroom in my parents' '21 Accord. But I feel like Honda is keeping it somewhat neutered (no more 2 liter turbo, no AWD) to avoid having it compete with the Acura TLX.
Yup. Honda has made so many strategic blunders the past decade and Toyota blew by them by an even wider margin. It's 2024 and Acura have ZERO hybrids! How crazy is that?!
Acura/Honda design is too boring. Acura from iron beak and now do not exude premium. The interior with a giant drive mode nob is just silly.
Good to know, I'll keep my Toyota stock.
I love my Solterra I got a steal of a deal on a 2023 demo unit.
Honda betrayed the Accord it looks bad inside and out they got cheap with the smaller cheap fixed headrests in the back, the interior is cheap the seats are cheap and the 10th generation seems so much better and better designed. The Accord used to be a step between Honda and Acura now in just feels too much love a Civic and CR-V there isn't anything that makes it special and it's so bad looking no one wants to pay new car price for it. I don't blame them. The 1.5T is Terrible in the cold. The Hybrid is DI only now, not reassuring for longevity vs the Camry D4-S.
Acura has no Halo car, no Hybrids in the line up and the Integra is too expensive & should offer a coupe to differentiate itself more from the Civic. If they could give it Double Wishbone front suspension maybe it would be worth it's current price.
People don't want to pay lots for bad cars, they're fed up. Honda/Acura has to do better.
Wait, so a company that doesn't give a sh.. about EV's seem to be doing fine, what can not be said about anybody else?
Is the market actually speaking now?
They care about EVs, just not bringing them to the market before they're wanted haha
Rav 4 sales up. Locally, often with a discount. Good supply. Cheaper than the Corolla Cross.
Sales are up, but unfortunately production lags behind, espescially on hybrids . And of course that leads to Greedy Dealers jacking up the prices. Soon people will complain that, "If you buy at Toyota, you're gonna be fleeced". And Toyota will lose its affordability edge from Toyota's institutionalized "Economy of Scale", by local dealers undermining it's historically affordabe reputation.
If Toyota sold direct to the customer with no markups they would probably put a lot of car companies out of business.
Too bad Camry is hybrid only, now... hopefully they do another TRD variant for enthusiasts. That said, a bazillion existing ones to do exhaust work and tuning like my 2003.
Toyota provides value for customer’s money. I tried and tried to love American manufacturers but they didn’t love me back. Instead, they wanted to take advantage of me with purposefully poorly designed crap.
They really messed up the Accord design on the front end, hurt sales massively. The previous gen looked infinitely better
when are we going to see inexpensive hybrid sports cars
That... Kind of defeats the purpose. Hybrid system + hybrid battery + sports car = lots of weight unless it's a Miata
Solid state batteries
Toyota has turned out excellent products, but their pricing on trucks and the 4 Runner has gone a bit too far. Add the dealership markups and that makes it a nightmare. Many of our customers are purchasing used Toyotas and we’re just taking care of their needs without the debt they would incur. Hopefully Toyota leadership will open their eyes to their loyal customers and out a stop to dealership gouging.
They're successful because for the most part they actually deliver what their consumers want to buy.
Subaru has good incentives and interest rate deals. Outback might have slowed because of rumors of 2025 redesign (which is not happening). Their announced 2025 prices look good too... no huge increases.
Toyota makes just for the U.S.:
Corolla
Corolla hybrid
Corolla hatchback
Corolla GR
Corolla Cross
Corolla cross hybrid
Camry hybrid
Crown
Crown Signia
RAV4
RAV4 hybrid
RAV4 prime
Sienna
Sequoia
Tundra
Tundra hybrid
Tacoma
Tacoma hybrid
4Runner
4Runner hybrid
Land Cruiser hybrid
Prius
Prius prime
Highlander
Highlander hybrid
Grand Highlander
Grand Highlander hybrid
Venza
Supra
Gr86
Mirai
Electric:
Bz4x
This doesn’t include what they make overseas - the variation of the Land Cruiser, etc.
Or Lexus.
Accord sales are down because the shady tactics the Honda dealers employ. I will never go and try to buy a Honda again. They wont tell you prices or anything.
Ill stick with Toyota. I always get treated well at their dealerships for sales or service.
They said in the 80's their goal is to be #1 transportation company in the world. Thats great but i do not own a toyota, just not my thing.
dont show this to naveen. he’ll start foaming at the mouth😂
Speaking to the Accord sales drop, it's really just not a good looking car imo. And the new lineup for other carmakers are way nicer to look at in the driveway. Sorry, but Accord lost my vote with the new model refresh and pretty sure others feel the same.
agreed lease the Solterra. Ever watch the commercial. I bet a rock to the bottom would make everyone SICK. Trying to make it like the others Subaru's they advertise, Fun to drive in the wilderness. They are not!!!!!!
I must say, I'm not feeling the look for the new camry, it looks like a hyundai front end and rear tail lights are ugly too. Also, honda accord is such a failure, it cost thousands more than the current equivalent 2024 camry (here in canada anyway) and it looks far worse with lower reliability.