Toyota's New $20,000 Vehicle Just Killed Honda's Future in America
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- Toyota Corolla Cross review. Toyota's New $20,000 Car Just Killed Honda's Future in America, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Is the Corolla Cross any good? New Toyota Corolla Cross. Everything you need to know about the new Corolla Cross. Toyota game changers. Should I buy a new Toyota Corolla Cross? Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 56 years.
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Yeah do. Most of these corollas, and basically toyotas are over priced and over rated
Making Boring Great again! -Toyota
Scotty do a video on all reliable American cars I’m a proud American an I have gone bored of Honda an Toyota plus I want to support my country
Hi Scotty. Love your videos they are so informative. I was wondering if you happen to know if used cars are supposed to drop back down in price anytime soon? I'm looking at getting rid of my 2016 kia Forte before something major happens to it. However, I don't have a large income and can't exactly afford payments on a vehicle over 20k.
thanks. very useful. does it come with blind spot monitor? I don't see it mentioned. Also, is the 2 yr complementary maintenance still available?
The auto industry needs to build affordable cars again.
Then stop paying for cars that are overpriced lol. Buy used.
Toyota Has NO IMAGINATION! that's what Mitsubishi did, using the Eclipse name to a Eclipse Cross! They do The Best Quality Cars, but Not Fun! Cause the Supra was No Made By Them, B.M.W. Made It! 😒
You must be driving a Damn Toyota, do you? If yo do, "You Are The One That Need A Better Pay Job!" 😒
Lol
@@Paintball1212 thats not the point a honda civic in the 90s retailed around 13k base, now base is like 23k
Hey Scotty stop putting $20K in your Toyota thumbnails. It reeks of dishonesty to get clicks.
He doesn’t need clicks
If you are lucky, you will get it for close to 30K, at least. Toyota dealers are notorious for adding 5k to MSRP.
My price out the door went up $1,700 last January over the original 2022 sticker price I signed up for./ only got it at the end of August!
But it was what I wanted/ needed/ and compared with the RAV4 it is dam near the same size minus 5 centimeters in headroom/ and a lot of different options available. Really, check it out size-wise. I think the 2L engine is good too. Haven't heard of any disasters ( yet) like some of the competition vehicles.
@@luckyguy600 I got CX5. No markups there.
@@veratolozhow do you like it?
@@gen613 So far, so good. Not too powerful, but roomy and comfortable.
My friend bought one a couple months ago, nothing fancy and $30,000 exactly. What’s Scotty smoking? 😂
It’s only 20k online , once you get to the dealership there will be a market adjustment and added dealer options.
My friend paid $30,000 for hers, nothing too fancy but her 20 year old Corolla Matrix AWD was $21,000 new so it’s a good deal for 30K in that respect.
I got quoted $30000.00 for a basic LE gas model about a month ago in Avondale Arizona.
That market adjustment is ridiculous. I thought all the car manufacturers told their dealer networks to stop the market adjustments?
So buy it online then
@alexleschhorn I HOP on a plane and goto wherever the dealers do Not have markups. That’s usually the midwest. Spend $100 for the plane ticket, $100 to drive the car back home & save $10,000.
Worth it.
Driven several Camrys into the ground well past 300,000 miles. Being in New England rust ended up ruining them. I’m really glad to see the newer Camrys have all wheel drive! Corollas are great cars but I enjoy having more room in the Camrys. It’s really hard to go wrong with either vehicle
I’m on my 4th Camry. Good reliable cars.
@@chucke756hehe I’m still on my 1st GMC pickup I bought in 2005. 200,000 miles and still rolling.
@@nrm3247 Yeah they were good trucks. My brother had one with over 260k - original everything. The old GM V8s were great engines. The new engines that have cylinder deactivation are not.
I decided that my next new car will be a Camry:
*Normal automatic gearbox
*Fuel efficient
*Direct & multipoint injection
*Space/comfortable inside for long distance driving
*Base model is very affordable to buy & maintain
+100 other good reasons 🤔
Agree. We had an ‘89 Corolla that lived until 2011. Great car, but not worth repairing after a while. Would certainly buy another.
We just picked up a cross this week for the daughter. I based this on your recommendation Scotty . No pressure though. We have had 12 Toyotas since 1989 and have had excellent success with the cars and trucks .
I almost bought a Corolla Cross in 2020, but I got the Mazda CX-30 instead, as Mazda offered huge discounts and free oil change for five years.
@TomMcdonald9AYahooDotCom In my area, both Mazda and Toyota have a 3-year or 150,000 km warranty.
Well buy a Hyandai with 100,000 miles warranty and free oil changes for 10 years.
I just traded in my 2021 Corolla LE sedan for a 2023 Corolla Cross XLE. I absolutely love it! Great little SUV that suits me perfectly. I even like the looks of it. I test drove a new Honda Civic before I decided on the Cross and was totally unimpressed. The ride/suspension was horrible and very uncomfortable for one thing. Just wasn’t the car for me. So back to the Toyota dealership for me! With the Cross, I’m also impressed with the mileage I have been getting. The other day, I got 39 mpg out of it. Who needs a hybrid? 😄 Besides, I wanted a spare tire and hybrids don’t have a spare.
whatever
@fawnsans that's unnecessary
39.8 mpg out of my '23 cross. Great cars!!!!
I never get above 30 mpg but your 39 mpg is impressive
My neighbor just bought one. Very good-looking vehicle 😊👌
Honda is destroying itself by trying to go full electric by 2030. In the meantime, they should use timing chains instead of belts..
Estimate to do my 2010 pilot timing belt was from 1900 to 2700.
only the v6 uses tining belt these days, but your point still stands
My 2017 Civic uses timing chain. But I would not mind a belt. What matters significantly more is fuel injection tech, non-hybrid ( lack of tech), minor parts breaking , and Honda paying so little to dealers for warranty that they refuse to do warranty work.
Every Honda I ever owned was a timing chain. Never needed replacing
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@@electrictroy2010 2006 Accord V6 is a belt. Replacing it was about $1000. CRV is apparently a chain as are a number of other models. My bigger issue is the crappy CVTs they moved to in the last 10 years. Those have caused issues. Also some problems with fuel/oil intermingling in CRVs, mostly in colder climate areas. Niece took a used CRV over 210,000 miles in college. Loved it and bought her first ever new car, 2020 CRV. It has had a few major issues and while the dealer has addressed them, mostly, she is not a "raving Honda lover" anymore. Since she is still paying for her car she cant afford to trade it in and get a new one but I would guess when she does it will be a Toyota.
20k marked up to 35k at dealer.
The Toyota Cross in my area is $23K for the L, $26K for the LE and $28K for the XLE. Not including insurance, still not an affordable car for most.
Why do I feel like I just got tricked into watching a Toyota commercial?
Because Scotty knows cars.
Because you did
I own a 2020 Toyota Corolla Hybrid. The 50 mpg you mentioned is way lower than the mileage I have ever gotten. I bought the car new in the Spring of 2019 and it now has 52K miles. I live in the Pacific Northwest and get 55 mpg in the winter and 65 mpg in the summer, averaging 60 mpg. So far it has been completely trouble free. That said, I am very satisfied and will NEVER buy an EV. The only problem is that the state of Washington doubles the cost to license hybrids every year because they use less gasoline (hence less gas tax revenue) and those greedy politicians want to get some of it back. I hope that’s not a problem in most states.
I've ordered a 2024 Corolla Cross AWD, Hybrid, but I may re-think this, and change back to a non- Hybrid model. Too many reasons why I'm making this decision to list here.
I test drove the 'competition' BUT the 'Cross impressed me a lot more. I do think that Toyota could and should have a more competitive warranty plan though.
I originally thought I'd buy a hybrid, but I'm retired now and have another car as well, and realized I might not put even 4k miles a year on the new one. Which is not a concern most people have, I know. But if you don't put that much mileage or more on a hybrid the batteries don't get charged like they need to and they won't last as long. What I don't want is a hybrid with its batteries wearing out earlier in the vehicle's life than they already do.
@@bartlebyscrivener2980 The batteries indeed, are what made me change my mind,... ( i think ) I have yet to have a chat with my Dealer, but that will be as a courtesy only,. I usually know ( or try to at least ) enough about what I'm buying before I do so. I'm in the same position as you are, although, I put more kilometres on a vehicle in a year, perhaps than normal, about 26,000, and that amount will be lessened to about 18000 or so in the coming years.
Ahh, time will tell, I'll make up my mind soon.
Again, thanks for your reply/input.
The Toyota Cross Hybrid looks like a decent value proposition. Compared to the Subaru Outback Premium its off-road capability looks like it is lacking but it does get better fuel economy. The XMODE on the Subaru offers better AWD traction and it has slightly better ground clearance. For under $30k the Subaru Premium (sold below MSRP) may be a better overall value. It is larger and other than silicone gaskets should last over 200k miles.
1980 car sold for around $5,000 should sell for $18,000 today.
3rd world gets compact vehicles sub $12,000 because the markets there dictate what the purchaser will buy.
Unfortunately, the Carolla Cross (in California) starts out between $23k-$25k and goes up to $33k plus for the AWD hybrid version. Where exactly can they be purchased for $20k????
Nowhere! But the $20k text got more people to view and comment.
@markf.2050 Agreed. They are great vehicles and on the high side in pricing because of that. I do like them, but my 2012 Rav4 has 114k miles, so it's just now broken in, and I'm hoping for 200k more. Maybe I'll buy a used Toyota Carolla Cross at that point????
no where
Our dealer has the Corolla Cross starting at only $959 less than the Rav4. Not much difference. Plus the Corolla Cross has a CVT transmission. I'll keep buying the Rav4
As a LA daily driver, this has been the best car I ever had, smooth driving with good features, full tank last me 7-9 days, good space for grocery shopping at Costco, and most importantly for road trips and camping. When leased is up, will trade in for the Sporty Hybrid or Plug in Hybrid 😊
Gee, this $20,000 is really near $30kI was interested at $20K but not far above. Keep driving my 2011 forester
My wife just built one on line this weekend. It came to 36k. I thought that was a great price. She wants the yellow one and AWD.
The prices that Scotty is showing here for the Corolla Cross are for online purchases. The prices for the Corolla and RAV4 might be close to what you pay for those cars in the Midwest, but the Corolla cross is going for $32K for the base model. So it is not a better deal than the RAV4 or Honda CRV
Depends on where you buy. I have flown to another state to buy a car, savings thousands. People need to expand their searches.
I’m in Midwest. Bought a rav4 xle this week. Looked at the Corolla cross. Rav4 was $32,199 after rebate the Cross was at $31,599 but was slightly better equipped. Went with t he rav.
What state is good to buy a car then?@@macdaddyp8437
If you're tall, you'll have a hard time getting into corrola.
HOP on a plane and goto wherever the dealers do Not have markups. That’s usually the midwest. Spend $100 for the plane ticket, $100 to drive the car back home & save $10,000.
Worth it.
Toyotas are great, there is no denuing that. BUT.........their buisiness model is corrupt. Their MSRP is all but a joke in the US. They have a disributor who charges premiums, the dealers charge premiums. They force insurance otems in financing ( and are being sued).Paid out 60 million, ( You know they are guilty). It fed me up so much,... I bought a Mazda😡
Stoked to watch this. Every car review video from Scotty is a new treat
HEYY! Aren’t you supposed to be moderating?! Just kidding, cool to see y’all here!!
Will you have a debate between Ben Shapiro and Dr Finkelstein? Also when's the next Daniel H debate?
I really like it ! Scotty I had two Pontiac vibes same as your wife’s matrix ! And by far it was my favorite cars , the Corolla Cross is like the modern version ! I’m sold ❤
Many years ago auto makers made what they called stripper cars.. They didn't have ANYTHING in them except the bare minimum.. not even a radio.... That is what somebody really needs to make... nothing but a heater... Price it LOW...it would be a seller.
I test drove one of these and I didn't like it. Very under powered. Sits low to the ground and the blind spots are terrible. I had to floor it to get on the interstate during my test drive. I was replacing a 2004 Rav4 and it for sure didn't have anymore power than that Rav. I ended up with a Subaru Forester and I couldn't be happier. If you are just driving around town the Corolla Cross would be ok. If you do a lot of highway driving, look elsewhere.
Lucky USA at $20,000, In Canada they start at $36,290.04 base
Just bought my Corolla Cross hybrid less than a month ago and I love it.
I prefer the CHR over the Cross any day. The reason why we went with a Subaru Crosstrek instead is because it’s still in production. But I was very vocal about wanting a 2024 C-HR.
Any word on the models of the Cross being produced in New Zealand?
I love my baby. I have the Cross for a few months. Im just happy to be in the Toyota family!
$20000 Bullsit
I know too many people that own Kia's with great warranty's. Goog luck getting your Kia fixed though. They always seem to be out of parts.
In 1960, i recall the sudden popularity of compact cars. My father bought a Ford Falcon which was small, light, and had no frills, not even a radio. At that time, the only pickups were driven by working farmers, and the speed limit on our country roads were 55 for cars and 45 for trucks. This austerity was the genesis of the resulting boom in the auto industry. Today's car are more like the overweight, overpriced and overindulged people who drive their too large vehicles.
Too bad they don't offer a 5 or 6 speed manual for the Corolla Cross. There are still some old folks like me who would like a standard shifter in a small SUV like that
The GR version will have a manual transmission //
Should have option for the 8 speed automatic transmission not only CVT crap.
Lol Toyota dont even need to advertise now, they can just hire scotty to make a 10 min video of their new model.
No mention about the transmission?
I heard it was a CVT, and I feel better with a 5 speed transmission in the RAV 4.
Yep CVT just like the regular Corolla.
Getting the Rav4 over the Cross simply for the better transmission is worth it imo
I have a 2016 prius hybrid with over 340000 miles and not much has went wrong with regular maintenance. So the hybrid corolla cross should last a long time.
FYI, the cheapest Toyota Corolla Cross (gas model) costs $25,400, with destination charges. This does not include taxes.
Great information, gracias Scotty & team 👍🏻
I had bought a 2024 Chevy Trax LS and it is cheaper than Toyota Corolla cross. I really like the design of it. I have been driving it close to 3 months and drives really well. I don't see any difference of the small engine in the car. Can you review the Trax when you get a hold of one? I have been hearing it is selling really fast
I predict he won't be kind to it if he does....
A Chinese Chevy! Good luck with that crap
Sorry to disappoint you, but Chevy Trax equals Chevy Trash! Very unreliable car.
Chevy does not make long lasting vehicles.
We own a 2020 Corolla Hybrid. It's one of the best cars I've ever owned. 53 mpg, and it has a full size spare tire! I had to buy this tire and a rim aftermarket, but at least Toyota provided a storage well for it under the cargo floor. I love the idea of the Corolla Cross Hybrid, but somehow, it's fuel economy is a whopping 25% LESS than that of the regular Corolla Hybrid. And Toyota chose to route several high voltage cables through the spare tire well, and provide only a patch kit, so you can't use the well to put a real spare tire in there, even though it's big enough to carry one. Very disappointed in this, Toyota!
How is the corolla cross cheaper ive seen them all ethier more or just 500$ more then the Rav4
You're seeing marked-up Crosses then. The new Huntsville plant is producing much lower numbers of them than the demand for them so far, just a fraction of the North American RAV4 production. There is even higher demand for RAV4's, but much higher production, too, and the supply shortfall is worse for Crosses. To get a Cross for MSRP you pay a deposit and wait for half a year or more.
Is this a paid commercial?
I’m planning on buying one of these to succeed my 2010 RAV4 that’s still going strong, but starting to need that annoying high mileage maintenance. Hopefully I can get it for less than $25k out the door, but realistically it’s gonna be more than that if I buy brand new … kinda hard to justify not buying new when used are literally $1-2k less, it seems!
Most dealers around me are charging 28k+ for the “L” trim model.
Which is the MSRP for the RAV4. So why not grab the RAV4? Oh wait base models are 35k
My brother bought one and it was about $31,000 before tax. These vehicles will never be sold for $20,000 in my opinion. Does anyone know where someone bought those so called $20,000 trucks from other brands offering them in this price range.
After our next lease is up I will be looking to pick one of these up to keep forever!!!
Wish they would bring the 7 seater to the USA. I’d buy one today!
I appreciate your input and candor Sir. You've always been a realistic and honorable person in this site. I've used your advice for many years. Regards Frank 🙏
Reality is, OEMs price cars are what the market will bear. If customers are willing to take bigger and longer loans terms to afford the latest and greatest, that's what they will do. Both Ford and Stellantis seem to have abandoned the compact budget car market, GMnstill has the Equinox, Spark . This matters, bc the average salary has not kept pace with inflation and this entry point in the market is big, volume wise. The Japanese, Korean brands have not abandoned the sub compact segment. When the Chinese arrive, you can bet that they will focus there too. Volume is key in auto. As it allows you to spread your development and tooling costs over more units. Very short sighted by Ford and Stellantis.
We have one of each 22 CHR and 23 Corolla Cross , each one is good , CHR is fun to drive , I don’t see lack of power only think I can complain about is very small fuel tank in CHR , 250 miles from full to empty , that means you are stopping every 2 1/2 or 3 hours for fuel
Corolla Cross has bigger fuel tank , I think they both are great value for the money
With every toyota dealership (within100miles) having a mark up, my crv hybrid was the same price!
My wife couldn't wait that long to get one so she chose a Mazda CX-30
I think mazda cx-30 is still king i. Compact suv
Equinox is definitely not a direct competitor. Chevy trailblazer or Chevy trax would be the correct comparison. The equinox goes against the rav4 .
This is the first time in a long time I see a new vehicle and think "yeah, that sounds about right."
i love this guy. my dad was a diesel mechanic for almost 50 years. i cut my teeth on 50K lbs mack semis.
But the CHR Hybrrid in the UK exceeds 100 mpg, slow but that's Imperial gallons and miles.
I rented one a few months back I was not impressed at all. I drove it long enough to know that I would end up being miserable if I bought it
A corolla cross LE AWD car price is CAD$33735 and + tax and other fees costing up to almost $40000, why say $20000 ??
if dealership doing mark ups, dont buy there
I still have my 2010 Matrix and will drive it until the wheels fall off, by then the Cross may well be my next car.
Same here 😍love my Matrix
Scotty, I will be happy to buy a CC from you for 20K!!
I'll keep my made in Japan 04 highlander with 184k that is paid for. Nice offerings though.
Thanks 4 the in4mation: I have made my decision when getting my SUV. The Toyota Cross b/c of the cargo space & price
The FWD Cross has a lower cargo space floor than the AWD, giving it a little more space.
Hi I went to Toyota and they didn’t have any. I wanted to give it a test drive 😊
This is the logical conclusion from a 2017 prius imo.
How about the Honda HRV ? That would be a fairer comparison.
Whaaat? Base price for Corolla is already $26K😱
Or just buy a Matrix
I bought a 2003 Matrix for $2,300, only 238,000 miles, why by new? It’s just a beater with a heater for doing short trips.
Corolla cross ranged from about 24-33,000
Honda should have hybrid options for HRV.
Very informative 👏 🎉😊
Toyota is the least comfortable driving vehicle. German and American cars are much comfortable in driving.
I hate the iPad look on the dash.
I hate the wide open mouth front grille.
And I hate that they put those things in these great little cars.
Ended up getting a Mazda after the Toyota dealership experience...
I feel you. I was treated like trash and given a dirty Rav4 on empty to test drive.
There's no excuse for rudeness. But I also noticed what an awkward situation Toyota salespeople find themselves in. They don't have their in-demand model cars available for customers to look at and test drive. And if it's a dealership that does have Crosses or RAV4s on the lot, that's only because they've marked them up and offend customers that way. They're stuck as just wait-list managers, or else shysters with the high markups.
Such great reviews!
$20,000? I'm guessing that's before tax?! (I still get confused by weird American pricing.)
Because here in Europe, Corolla Cross will cost $34k for the base model, $38k for the STYLE model and $41k for the Executive model.
It’s about $23,000 before tax. Some states don’t have any sales tax on cars but most do.
No Scotty, it's almost exactly the same size as the Rav4. There's literal millimeters in size difference. It's not as small as it could be. And the daily motor channel has road tested the C-hr to 35-36.5mpg on the highway, not 27-31, that is just not true.
Didn't Scotty just put out a video saying don't buy Toyota because they are now scumbags?
They need to bring back the station wagon. Heated seats and steering wheel should be standard equipment.
I was surprised tp hear the mileage was better with all-wheel drive than with front wheel drive (at around 1:55)
If he said that it's a mistake. FWD gets better mileage than AWD.
Didn't Toyota previously offer a Prius C and a Yaris for under $20KUS in recent years?
The AWD Subaru Impreza was still available under $20K, until recently.
I work at the plant where the Corolla Cross is assembled....the Mazda CX-50 looks far better. But most of us working there could afford the Cross.
Those screens in the toyotas are hideous sticking up that far from the dash
I'll just stick with my 2014 Camry with 90K and my 2016 RAV4 with 80K I am religious doing the maintenance and plan on having them each getting to 200K. I'm 72
Who knows 200,000 miles plus another 100,000 if all goes well! MIne has 252,000 miles and still going strong. 2006 Sienna xle.
20K??? try 26K at lowest price. OTD maybe 28400. hybrid 30K OTD 32700. Problem with all toyota's is Importer now throws on accessorizes that can NOT be removed typically about a grand. Yes even on assembled ones in the usa. Neat trick.
Fuel efficiency of Corollla cross is almost same as Rav4. So better to go for the Rav4 though Rav4 are slightly higher priced.
The corolla cross is built in a mazda factory in alabama. if i wanted mazda , i would buy a mazda. lol
This car will never be anywhere close to $20k. The additional dealer markups will make sure of that. The same thing happened to the new Prius Prime.
Toyota Corolla and Corolla cross model 2023 they have recall on it
Except it’s not 20k starts 25 easy been trying to get one I’d love the hybrid it’s the Prius drive train
Not sure where you are getting a cross for $20000 but definitely not that in my area.
I have a 2022 Le cross and I love it
Killed nothing. The 2023 Cross starts at $24,945 MSRP. Can you give me a link for the $20,000 price? Thanks
Almost 38.000€ in Europe, without even having chosen any options or paint!
Great video. The Toyota cross looks like a great vehicle assuming it has the classic Toyota reliability and longevity. I have a 2002 RAV4 that is still going strong.
My 2002 RAV4 I missed the window for Toyota fixing the ECMs that go bad. I had the bad solders on the board redone when they finally went bad in 2015. But the ECM went bad again in 2021 and this time screwed up my auto transmission. That's why you see fewer 2001-2002 RAV4s still on the road than other years. I'm glad yours is still rolling.
Workmanship in regards to fit and finish is not as good as it once was, Toyota should never got involved with Mazda because the never rally build great cars in regards to quality. I hope that Toyota takes another path that makes them great again,
I'll go for the older Avalon for 20k slightly used.